2014 Ford Fiesta 1.0L EcoBoost: Everything You Ever Wanted to Know
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- ( www.TFLcar.com ) The 2014 Ford Fiesta 1.0L EcoBoost is a tiny little turbocharged engine that has only three cylinders and produces a 123 horsepower. It is one of the smallest turbocharged engines that you can purchase in the United States. Currently it is only available in the 2014 Ford Fiesta in America. In another accurate, fun and informative TFLcar video here's everything you ever wanted to know about the 2014 Ford Fiesta 1.0L EcoBoost engine.
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i have finally found an American that knows how to ask good Questions!! well done Sir
And they were answered in exemplary fashion by a Brit. I think I'm getting a Fiesta Ecoboost, no brainer.
@@MegaVector2011 The MPG is different on the Europe market engine? I was expecting him to say "Our gallon is bigger than the US one" LOL. at 4.7 odd Litres
Good comprehensive interview; much more interesting and informative than the usual extended drone from a marketing rep with a power point screen and laser pointer. The Ford rep knew his stuff and gave good clear answers.
I bought mine in 2015 brand new off the forecourt.... still got it, never replaced anything on it yet obviously brake pads but thats it, love it its my baby never let me down
This is an astonishing interview - I'm sold.
I am one of the owner in Malaysia who drive this car in Malaysia. Bought it last month. The performance, handling, in car entertainment and fuel efficiency are fantastic. With the discounted price that I paid compare among the rivals, actually there is no rival. Thumbs up!
That was a very thorough well done interview, I've always loved these plucky little engines!
I once overhauled this engine and amazed how powerful it is despite the size .
3 cylinders weights probably less than a new born horse but it has 125hp and it gets 45mpg thats the future and really good job Ford and thanks for this good review
I'd be interested in driving one. Light compact hatches have always been a favorite of mine, I'm glad to see the US isn't totally done with that philosophy yet.
Great interview!
planning on replacing my car in less than a year. This is at the top of my list! Sounds like an amazing engine.
very nice interview and questions (y)
I bought one of these Fiesta's last December for a work car and I love it..I actually get better MPG than what it's rated for witch was awesome...I get around 50-60 MPG Highway and 35-40 city with an avg of 45-48 MPG...I'm very happy with it..
I have the Australian version called fiesta S, coupled with the sports shift auto. Absolutely great car & genuinely fun to drive
"sealed for life" has never, ever worked out
"sealed for life" always means "it'll break at 100k and destroy everything around it"
I have in South Africa a 1995 BMW E36 328 - made 20 km away from me in Roslyn Pretoria. It's rear diff is sealed for life. I changed the diff oil at 300,000 km. She's now pushing 400,000 km. Engine, gearbox and diff has never been opened, she has the original exhaust....yes really. I proactively change stuff that will leave me stranded. Am on the 4th rad, 3rd clutch, 2nd starter motor, 3rd alternator, 3rd water pump, 2nd fuel pump.
Sealed for life means normal lifespan which is 300,000 km. Use your head and change the oil at sensible intervals.
that is a big engine you have there man. This smaller engines are really struggling to pull the body, so it has to work at higher RPM. That means shorter lifespan and it's a 3 cylinder engine, those are known not to be so reliable compared to 4 and more cylinder
Basically the warranty period.
I once overhauled that engine and amazed how powerful it is despite its size .
@@joshmalley710 false
I have this car in the U.S. and I love it. Fun to drive and great MPG. 42.6 overall.
brent vance are you still driving the 1.0L ecoboost I've heard a lot of negative about them. How is your holding up. How many miles does your have?
Thomas Silsby I've got a 100hp version and is good for what it is 45mpg since I got it but easy to get 50-60 If you drive like a granny
Fantastic job!
Is it weird that the 1.0T excites me more than the 1.6T in the ST? And will we ever see twin-cylinder or single like on motorcycles?
+GT6SuzukaTimeTrials Morgan makes a V-twin sports car.
+GT6SuzukaTimeTrials Fiat sells the 500 over in Europe with a 2 cylinder engine, it's called the TwinAir. Most countries only get the 0.875L turbocharged version which develops 84 horsepower, although a non-turbo version also exists. The engine has an interesting sound to it, if you search TH-cam on "Fiat TwinAir" you'll get plenty of hits.
I've owned a Focus with this engine and a 6 speed manual transmission for a year now, and let me tell you it is very fun to drive. The sound is unusual, but nice nevertheless. The turbo lag is not really noticeable. The whole drive train feels really well put together. Mine uses 0,44 liters per 10 km on the highway and 5,4 in the city. I floor it every now and then, so your numbers may vary. I test drove a Mazda 3 with a naturally aspired 2 liter engine and it felt fine, but no way near as snappy and fun. The ecoboost is like a ferocious little tiger. Kitty has got claws, but she is not going to rip your face off. It's just a 1 litre engine, remember.
When Ford innovates, it never ends well. Could have had a winner, but we decided to seal off and integrated the main parts on the car. Trust Ford, it will never ever break promise
Never seen an exhaust manifold integrated into the head assembly. Interesting design cues on the engine, thanks for uploading!
the new civics have the manifold integrated too
***** I guess that's the direction newer vehicles will go in terms of engine design. Thanks for informing me.
The new Volkswagen ea888.3 engine has it integrated as well.
I hope this is a non interference engine for when that belt breaks. No maintenance for the customer lol. Just put it on the outside so you can change.
The belt runs in oil and it wont really break unless you're not changing the oil.
If after 300,000 miles of hard use it eventually fails, £600 or less for a full low mileage ecoboost is cheap to replace the entire engine. These will last economically for decades.
My Ford Focus has this engine and it worked very well
How old is your focus?
My ‘14 Fiesta has this engine. Still in perfect condition, only change the oil and oil filter
The "Ecoboom" rumours are everywhere but all i can say is my driving instructor had one racking 20,000+ miles a year through lessons and it was still going strong after a few years.
Who is the engineer? Does he have a vlog? I could listen to him technologicalize all day long.
There was a special about this engine in the geraman ATZ magazine. Go to your local university and you will find something similar for sure.
Nice interview, but would've been nice to see an actual "Real World" review and test drive of the vehicle to see what you actually though of the little Ford Fiesta with this engine and if you thought it will catch on over that side of The Pond !!!
Finally some American car that does not need millions of litres and cylinders just to make some horsepower
Right 🤣
Is it right to use regular fuel in direct injection turbo charged engines? If so, why to use premium?
So relieved I got shot of my 1.0 litre Ecoboost Fiesta all those years ago before wet timing belt problems arose and became a major issue. "Sealed for life ... no maintenance required by the customer." Oh really?
ford is back again that is powerful engine
Nifty little engine, however something about a life long belt doesn't seem right to me, unless they specify lifetime as when the belt breaks and destroys the engine.
I've owned one since March and really like it. 10 tank avg of over 45 mpg 85/15 hwy/city.
85 MPG highway? 15 MPG city? What?
85%hwy/15%city
This would make a great aircraft engine.
Imagine getting a Fiesta with this engine and then adding the new Hyboost hybrid technology.
Good review. Now that integrated, water-cooled exhaust-manifold, will that also mean the coolant gets up to temperature faster than in a regular engine, increasing efficiency and meaning the heater gets hot sooner? Seems like that would be a beneficial side-effect.
The heater will get hot sooner and the startup emissions will be much easier to manage. The integrated exhaust manifold has multiple benefits.
Thank you. Exactly what I figured.
It's easier to get higher compression numbers from a small motor. You can have a blown 2 liter that'll make much higher than numbers per liter than a 6.3 liter motor. I think a lot of it has to do with how much volume is needed to be filled in a small amount of time. It's easier to fill 1 liter of air at 15 psi than it is to fill 6.3 liters at 15 psi.
Will this be paired with the 6 speed dual clutch transmission?
My Sprint Turbo had about the same weight 3 cyl 993cc engine. it made 78 hp, though. But, of course, the car was only 1670 lbs. It was QUICK.
How old are you?
My geo metro I used back in 1993 was a three banger. Was just fine as a commuter. This is not a big deal
yeah that sealed for life deal is a bummer. cars these days are not made to last. super efficient but they gotta have something go wrong so you buy another car or motor. its a bussiness
@OmgSteveJobs Three newtonmeters.
If you enable that overwhelming ecoboost technology you can get peaks of 4,5.
Greetings from Germany ✌
He avoided lying about the fuel consumption
I've read that the new Fiesta ST will get this engine which will hopefully kick out 200HP. Ford did achieve this on their formula 1 car using this engine lol.
Before 2009 I was not a Ford fan due to my experiences with an old Ford Escort that was a complete lemon but I have owned a UK Fiesta 1L Ecoboost 125BHP now for 6 months.
Previously I had a Fiesta 1.6 4 cyl for 4 years which I loved.
I do a mixture of driving from absolute thrash to gentle pootling about in the city. I get at least another 60 Miles out of a full tank of fuel compared to the 1.6 litre. The 1 Litre is considerably quicker on outright acceleration than the 1.6 was and anyone who says it is slow, clearly doesn't know what they are talking about! I am averaging 47 MPG, with my 1.6 I averaged 44 MPG. My only concern is long term wear of the engine and what would happen if the turbo gave up.
Thanks for the info from an actual owner. I'd take 47 MPG all day long.
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And my MPG is worked out on how many miles I ACTUALLY do and how much fuel I use, not what the car's computer tells me which is 52MPG.
Nice to hear...I have a silver 2015 3 cyl fiesta on order here in Orlando, Fl...should arrive in late October...I am going to be transitioning to a job with a long commute next year so am looking forward to the 50 MPG.
goodchappy
Yep; I've noticed on most of my cars that the car computer's average will be a little higher than what I calculate. Still very good though.
I should point out that I live in the UK where a gallon is 4.455 litres. I think it is less in the US.
That comment about the engine's reliability did not age well.
I'd wish they drop the 1.0 l ecoboost in the fusion. I also wish they made it available as a naturally aspurated engine as a cheaper option, I know turbo engines are more fuel efficient when your gentle on the throttle but can be fuel drinker s when more throttle is used.
+knightrider1545 The 1l EcoBoost cars have a "Change-up" indicator on the dash, to show you when you're about to move from fuel-sipping to fuel-gulping.
Riggald Eux Besides, whats the rush?
Riggald Eux thats a useful feature you pointed out kind sir.
he forgot to mention the recall in EU for the engines overheating and setting on fire, LARGER WATER PIPES
I think we should put 3 of these together
Great interview, great engineering, but not sure if it's a great engine. Mazda's Skyactiv technology is the way to go to get beter mpg imho.
the skyactive doesn't get nearly as good city mileage and is also lower on the highway as well.
Daniel Blaney
Very true! but they will never believe that
Well ok, but it depends on the driving style and if you believe the factory mpg values.
What Ford won't tell you is that at some point,your engine will start losing coolant.This turns out to be the gasket seal on the water pump.Due to the design of the engine,this is a big expensive job to fix.Another regular thing that crops up is misfiring caused by carbon build up on the back of the valves.Ford to date,do not have a fix for this other than to replace the cylinder head.If the car is out of warranty,which is usually when this problem happens.you will face yet another huge bill.I own a 2014 Fiesta Zetec S 1.0L 125bhp.It's a wonderful car to drive but because of the problems I have highlighted and whilst the car is still low mileage,I will be selling it.
Lol rated to last the life of the engine, which ends when that belt breaks.
I've seen this before :s?
Omg a sealed for life timing belt. That makes this engine a no go for me.
apparently belt last 150000 miles or between 10-15yrs.
Ill take a focus with the 2.0 4 cylinder that has a chain over this thanks.
A lifetime belt? They should be fined for ever one that breaks
I love tech that gives power and efficiency and I don't know the difference on what is under the hood.i get in use the car and don't know the difference.i hate the hybrids and electrics that post the fact all over the car .if it just works and I can't tell then I would consider them competitive . I bet regular consumers can't tell the difference between the1.6 and the 1.0 that is success to me.
Actually, for regular custmers 1.0 Ecoboost will appear more punchy than naturally aspirated 1.6 engine.
How much torque?
Minimum octane in UK I've saw is 95, the premium fuel is about 107
They use a different octane rating system in the US. Your standard UK unleaded (called "premium") has a RON of 95, in the States the equivalent "regular" gas has a MON of 87.
The 1.0 L Ecoboost is 129hp. It has an oil bath timing belt and a 3 phase cooling system.
123 HP actually. but ford claims 125.
Well I am Ford trained, I am one of their techs. The number is different in many places.
Never answered the reliability question at all -ducked that one.
Also, the integrated, cooled exhaust manifold will make it warm up faster in cold weather, thereby reducing the idle time needed to get the interior to a bearable temperature in winter.
That was the thing that perked up my ears. Living in Michigan is tough on cars especially in the winter. I was also concerned with the fact that this is turbo charged and I didn't want to have to wait for the coolant and the oil to warm up so the turbo would be properly lubricated. After hearing about all the new ways this engine takes care of itself, I think this is going to be my next engine.
Tom Poole I live in Canada and the integrated exhaust works to warm up faster but sometimes it’s so cold my car doesn’t even warm up fully in winter
how often does it get stuck on the side of the road or in the dealership.
ford are extremely unreliable. EVERYBODY HAS REALISED THAT only white people buy Ford's lol
lol we all no there shit. 😂
Never. Because it works and has been designed by people who know what they're doing.
Unless that belt is made of unobtanium I call BS on it being a non-service item. Although I do have to say I'm about to restore a 1986 Saab 900 Turbo with 260,000 or so miles on it, and the timing chain is the original.
I live in Irvine
Hi all, proud owner of an ecoboost 125 fiesta here. Had it for almost 4 months now, if you have any general questions please ask. I'd be happy to share my experience with it.
+ktmad Average MPG? MPG on short distances? comfortable? favourite feature and a weird one, how good are the heaters.
+XCI Average mpg is around 45mpg, includes cold starts and short 15min trips. This car gets the best mpg on flat roads and at speed. 70mph gets around 45-60mpg depending on if its hilly or not, if you drive where its flat the mpg is well in the 60s. Also, i found that filling up at Shell or BP actually made a huge difference to the economy which i didn't realise at first, this car just sips the branded fuels.
Comfort is good, i'm tall 6"2 so at first this wasn't my first choice, but after test driving 1.2tsi fabia and 1.6 golf i was surprised at how comfortable i could get and how 'well composed' the drive was both around town and at speed, it feels like you're in a bigger car inside which i like also.
You'll feel the pot holes and medium bumps but i do have the 17" wheels which probably doesn't help, yet still, the steering and handling is up there with the top favourite things about this car.
I used to travel 200 miles from Northampton to North Wales every fortnight so for long distance travelling you could swear you're in a 3 series or something, definitely dig the intelligent suspension and getting rid of that road sickness you may have got in the older fiesta body/wheel base etc.
Favourite feature is a hard one, as i've mentioned a few above. Top 3 things are: #1 is the turbo, it just pulls which is great for overtaking, sliproads and hills, steep ones! #2 the handling, for my previous job i used to drive bmw 3 series estate, audi a5, hyundai i40, and other 'big cars' as well as a few superminis i looked at before getting the fiesta, and from my personal experience i haven't driven anything that feels so good yet also fun to drive. #3 are front heated windscreen (patented so no other manufacturer can do it, yet), led day lights (they look great on this car), AC/climate control is very responsive, gearbox and clutch (i've always had problems with clutches i.e. too springy, bite is too high etc. in new cars, but this compares with some of the korean manufacturers which i find quite nice to shift, e.g. Hyundai i30/i40, most comfortable clutch/gearbox for a tall guy like me).
Weird things about the ecoboost fiesta: you get the best economy by changing gear (especially the low ones) between 1.5K to 2K revs. Say you're pulling away from 0mph i find myself changing into 2nd almost immediately on flat roads due to the ratio feeling small and the rev counter shooting up, the trip tells me even at 2nd gear that i'm doing 15-20mpg at 15-20mph say so when at town cruise speed, say 30mph, 3rd gear is the most efficient at around 2K revs... higher gears will put the engine in labour (engine will judder) and lower gears will just be in the 3-4K revs which may be fine in a naturally aspirated car, but in this it will just drink that fuel like its in a yard glass. So low revs is key. When at 70mph in 5th gear, the car works at around 2.5k revs which tends to be the highest i let the car go when trying to be efficient.
Didn't mean to write an essay but i hope that helps! If you have questions please fire away
ktmad Thanks for the informative reply, I am getting one next month, I want a white one with the city pack, do all of them come with daytime running lights? what are the servicing costs like?
+XCI no prob, have you taken one for a test drive? If so what did you think? i'm not sure if they all come with daytime leds but i'm sure if it doesn't there is a substitute day light lamp. Servicing costs, my service is not yet due until april, same with MOT. Shouldn't be too much apparently, but i don't have that experience i'm afraid!
ktmad Never taken one for a test drive, sat in one, also sat in the ST, like both and decided on the 1L as it's my second ever car.
@steveMCHS So true
Timing belts do need changing.
Man I have the Indian version of this Engine in my ecosport and I'm getting 20 Km/liter that's not bad
It also has more rear view mirrors than a Boeing 787.
While I'm excited for this engine, the integrated exhaust manifold design, to me seems like a problem from a mechanical standpoint. Exhaust manifolds leak, and that means if you want to fix it and its in an area that you can't weld easily, then your stuck buying a new head for your motor.... more expensive parts and a lot more labor involved in replacing the exhaust manifold now...
being part of the cylinder head complete with coolant passages and all makes it seem a tad more secure no? seems exhaust manifolds are often made from tubing rather than a machined aluminum block.
justletmeuseit
more secure? I mean, the durability of the exhaust manifold would depend on two factors instead of one. Your ability to maintain the fluid in the cooling system, as well as age/corrosion/heat cycling. My only complaint about this, and it is especially important due to the fact it is a turbo motor, is that if the exhaust manifold springs a leak, your buying an engine head and you risk contamination of the cooling system as well.
DoomsdayMelody91 did it occur to you that a traditional manifold may be more likely to leak by design? lack of coolant circulation could be an issue but there are no doubt systems in place to detect that kind of problem early in a modern engine such as this one. get used to the exhaust manifold being part of the cylinder head btw, as ford wants to do this to accomodate other ecoboost turbos... only time will tell if this is a bad idea or not, so far it seems like a clever solution.
+DoomsdayMelody91 It wont crack or leak, not more than heads do. Or, if it leaks, its from the joint from turbo to exhaust.
A timing belt in oil...that lasts for the life of the car??? I can see that. The car lasts 4 years, it dies, it lasted the life of the car!
Marc B. Considering the price point and the low amount of comfort engineered into the car, it doesn't seem like something people will keep long; I assume.
Mines a ‘14 and has been ok!
You know many ECO-BOOST owners in the different engines with Direct injection are having severe drivability issues due to EXCESSIVE carbon build up in certain cylinders and I am talking about LOW mileage vehicles not 100,000 ++++ miles, plenty of negative write-ups here about the eco-boost
An oil bathed timing belt. Ready to deteriorate and clog the oil pickup tube and starve the engine of oil.
When is this coming out?
been out in europe since 2013
I would love it in the USA.
George Walters Already available in the U.S. I have one :) - a Fiesta SE Hatchback.
It was made available in North America for the 2014 model year in Fall of 2013. It's only available on the SE trim, not the S or Titanium. Also, myfordtouch is not available on the ecoboost trim, but the comfort package is.
my car vibrates , when drive and idle :/
Ozni Wellman, in what world is 45 mpg "doesn't get over 40 mpg?" And your heralded 3 cylinder Geo Metro also made a whopping 55 hp, about as much as a riding lawn mower. You'll spend so much time flooring the thing trying to stay away from the traffic roaring up on you that you'll never see anywhere near 49 mpg; Whereas the Fiesta's engine makes 123 hp, making it much more useable AND fuel efficient. That's a better combination in every way. And don't complain to Ford about airbags; that was the government's requirement way back in '97. And speed is the driver's choice. No one has to drive 75-85 if they don't want to. I have a 500 hp GT 5.0 and regularly cruise under the speed limit for the sake of fuel efficiency.
87 octane regular fuel? Lowest regular in uk I've used is 93 ahaha
we use a different octane classification system in the US
87 US = 91 RON (EU)
95 RON = 91 US
100 RON = 96 US
I'm pretty sure daihatsu were doing this year's ago with the gtti. We're going backwards!
No
Err yes they did, 100hp from a 1 litre turbocharged 3 cylinder engine
Dynos show 123 at the little wheels.
123 at the wheel?? So like, 150 crank?
I like the idea but I worry about the timing belt
Jonodude0 I have 999cc car , and it had it's first belt change at 200.000km (120.000mi) . Mechanic told me that it is as good as new when he got it out . And my driving stile is - I drive on 2 lane road in fifth , catching up a truck , slowing down to 40mph , waiting enough space to overtake , slamshif it into second , accelerate to 50mph , and than return into fifth . I am mistreating engine , now it has 250.000km (155.000mi) , still works as new . Car is 15 years old . You would not believe how much regular oil change could be important and how much new engines could take .
Thanks for all of your input! It definitely is a new idea to me - nothing like that is available in the United States as far as I am aware. Seems like its working!
Jonodude0 Well , look at it this way - small engine has light components . Timing belt snaps because of overloading . If it drives light components (small springs , light valves , light camshaft) and belt itself is bigger than it should because it could not be made any smaller , it can last very long . My car is Hyundai Atos . It regulary hauls 5 persons , at least twice a week , when we go to countryside (I live in town , but I have farm about 10 miles away) . Oil is your biggest enemy , because if it was not changed regulary , it becomes thick and it can jam camshaft .
Problem with US market - you buy new cars to often , and you expect to get a lot of car for small ammount of money , so car makers save as much money as they can to make them competitive . You are oversupplied with fake parts because you are big market , and everyone want to maintain their car as cheaply as they can . I buy parts from guy that imports parts directly from Korea , and if he does not have that part that I need avalible , he directs me to other direct importer . His logic is - other guy could not sell it any cheaper , he would still have satisfied customer and customer would have working car so he can buy more parts over years . Because I live in small market , logic is - if parts are too expensive , customer would switch brand .
is it still using timing belt?
Lots of new and unproven technologies here that I'm not comfortable with until it has been out for a few more years.
two years of service in europe already
Technology has to be proven somehow right?
Just because it uses "new" tech doesn't mean it'll be bad.
If we only went with "proven" tech we'd still be at ox-carts and wooden spears.
The internal combustion engine was "unproven" once too.
Direct injection and forced induction has been around for years.
As a Fiesta st-line owner i must say that Ford gives 4 year full warranty... so if it breaks down it is their issue hehe
eh, give me a 4 cylinder engine with a outside timing belt any day.
Very reliable but has only been out for a couple of years. Lol 😂
dernière Ford Fiesta neuve freins avants problème!-Un collègue et moi avons acheté en même temps (il y a un an) une Fiesta ST line boite auto et moi une Fiesta Vignale boite auto,et dès l'achat les freins disques avants faisaient un grincement de tolerie à la fin du freinage,un grincement atroce,et tout cela sans cesse c'est à dire tous les jours ,à froid comme à chaud,et été comme hiver.Ford a trouvé cela tout à fait normal...mais pas les piétons qui se retournent encore,effrayés par le grincement de tôlerie sur les 2 roues avants.Quant à nous...la honte!...et cela dure encore maintenant à plus de 15000km!-A cela,j'ai eu en plus un siège décousu,un 'système de fermeture des portes antichocs' HS,un frottement métallique permanent lorsqu'on tourne les roues à l 'arret(on m'a dit que cela partira,rien de tout cela,cet autre bruit permanent est encore maintenant tous les jours!,décollage d'un plastique de la planche de bord,et maintenant la direction cogne parfois au niveau du pied...à suivre.C'est la cata!
I read and heard several times the fiesta is the 2nd least reliable car. Right above the fiat 500. I'm not sure if that encompasses all models or just the auto transmission, which has been a nightmare. I thought this model was interesting until I hear the belt and the manifold was literally unrepairable. Too bad. Reminds me of an inexpensive motherboard with integrated pieces. One part goes. The board is shot.
the "lamborghini" also doesn't have a turbo......
This doesn't cost 300,000
direct injection, while sounding good on paper, is already proving that it is not a good concept for consumers. Indirect injection "bathes" the intake valves with raw gas thus keeping them clean. Because of the EGR system deposits accumulate on the intake valve causing disrupting the air flow and reducing efficiency. Toyota is already using a dual system at the same, direct along with indirect, to alleviate this problem.
this engine does not have an EGR system
No EGR, the engine is small and DI provides enough cooling for a 1.0 so that the NOx production is okay for Euro6 laws :) but i can see your point... i own a 125 ps Fiesta st-line and if you replace the air filter in time, there shouldn't be any problems
It is not the EGR system that carbons up the intake valve. It is the crankcase ventilation system. (which it does have)
Just wait until the engine looses all its coolant or the oil pump fails due to being blocked with bits of failing cambelts at 35000 miles
Or the high pressure fuel pump leaking petrol into the oil and diluting the oil so the engine seizes the see how wonderful they are
you lot keep repeating this shit but everyone outside of you internet moaners are hapy with this engine
"Just wait" 😅 Guess what, i'm still waiting. Not a problem with mine, it's called looking after your car.
Yea had this engine for the last 9 years not a single issue
I have this on my 2017 focus with 14360 miles. Car has been in dealer 2x in one year for tubo oil leaks. Won’t last 100k.
Wyh do the US only have 87 octane fuel? The lowest here in Germany is 95.
The octane ratings are calculated differently, so it's not a direct translation.
Our maximum speed limit is 75 MPH, you guys drive at 120 MPH +, you require a cleaner burning fuel.
IntegraFilms That's not correct. They use a different rating system.
Europe / USA
95 / 87
97 / 89
99 / 91
101 / 93
Robert Nugent Actually we are both correct. ;)
IntegraFilms I don't see how that's true.
seem to be a hell of a lot failing around 80 to 100k
Lifetime belt? Brb broken belt brb engine rebuild
I like what they're trying to do. But it's not perfect yet.
This is one of those things where if it were a toaster. It would be completely moulded solid and any screws or bolts would have a head on it you've never seen before.
Meaning. When it breaks. And it will break. It will be years down the line perhaps. But it will break in spectacular fashion. And you'll be sitting in a car out of warranty and out of an engine.
Just saying. Think about.
Their engines 2.0l and above are already destroying turbos and getting choked up with oil.
The real shame is, and a major point of contention are the low octane fuels that Americans have to put up with seriously restricting performance and mpg. I have the 1 litre 125 bhp European version in a Fiesta Titanium, it's phenomenal, Pocket rocket when it wants to be, quiet comfortable little cruiser returning 66 mpg when I drive it conservatively. The newly designed engine, the smaller ecoboost is manufactured in Germany so I wont worry about it going wrong.. I'm sorry the 2 litre was entrusted by Ford to be American manufactured in Ohio.
MegaVector2011 I didn't know about the crap fuels in the U.S. until recently. That must be why they feel they need huge engines. To compensate.
I wonder. There is a 2.0l ecoboost available in the European market. Hopefully that is German.
Andrew Gallacher Not sure Andrew, although Ford is a 'world brand' and their aim is to supply cars largely built to similar spec on the same platform, there are subtle differences in design and spec depending on Country. It's worth checking out, especially where the car & engine was built, they have worldwide plants, I would only trust the European ones personally, purely for the build quality and that the engines are aspirated to run on higher quality fuel.
MegaVector2011 No matter. If you know how to drive, 123 horses is plenty of pull. I have the same in a 1.7 diesel. Flooring the gas in second gear you can literally feel the blood drain from your face.
They said in the interview that this engine has been sold in Europe since 2011 without any problems? I do agree, however, with the logic of what you're saying. I want to buy a Fiesta, however, I am still tossing up between the 4 cylinder 1.5 and the 1.0 Ecoboost. I prefer the Ecoboost, however, I am concerned about what you're talking about... hasn't really been around a very long time.
You'll be lucky to get ,80,000 miles without replacing the engine, transmission or both.
Do not talk too much crap about something you know nothing about. I have my Fiesta 1.0 Ecoboost now for 5 years with over well 100 000 miles and I have NOT replaced anything on the car!
5:29 wut?
funny how he doesn't recall mpg in Europe, cause im sure he does know. European cars tend to get much better mph then U.S. cars. Care to comment Steve ?
MPG*
British MPG =/= US MPG. They measure gallons differently.
european cars are measured in KM or l/100km so the numbers are roughly 1/3 higher
Goalatio In the UK, they use gallons. However, their gallon is closer to 160oz vs 128oz in the US. For that reason, mileage ratings in the UK, given the same exact vehicle and engine, are higher than the equivalent US measurement. You get more miles per each UK Gallon than US Gallon.
I hate loud intros to videos, always pisses me off
Timing belt.... I doubt that would last forever. I don't see the point of turbocharging a small engine. Just because it has DI does not make bullet proof. Just like in there trucks twin turbos on a 6 won't have long time reliability.
And you'r talking about reliability as if gm's cars like the one in your channels picture have it ?? From my experience in cars that i owned ,the only cars that can beat ford in reliability is toyota's
mohammad ali Ok there bud i got 350000 miles on my silverado something an ecoboost will never ever! get to.
matthebest018 It's a more than a little disingenuous to say that considering the engine line is not even 10 years old yet.
mohammad ali My honda accord has 250,000 on it, we still use it every day. Waiting for Turbo VTEC, Honda always does things better then ford.
The turbos aren't really the issue on these. It's carbon buildup from the direct injection system. Also, they torture tested them for several hundred thousand and saw very little wear due to superior oiling/cooling design of the whole setup, including the turbo bearings (they did some nifty engineering to warm the oil to operating temp quickly after startup too). The reason they didn't see these carbon problems in testing is because they don't test them at constant low-load situations where you tend to get carbon buildup. They run on a dyno at WOT for the 'equivalent' of their number of testing miles. All the manufacturers do it that way. Since these have so much low-end torque, and they're programmed to run at low rpm for gas mileage purposes, they rarely see high rpm use. I've got the 1.6L ecoboost in my wife's car and it acts a lot like my Delta 88 that had the 3800 V6 in it, great throttle response, lots of low end torque, not much extra HP if you wind up the RPM. Unless I'm passing on the freeway or having a little fun with it, it rarely hits even 4000 rpm because I've got plenty of pull down there, which is crazy being such a small motor with a turbo.
i have driven one of these ecoboost 3cyl.... and its definitely... Slowwwwwwwwwww and there is some lag.
Suprisingly 1.2 TSI in Golf VII, which has 20hp less, is about 2s quicker in 0-60 and more economical in real life.
i definitely agree with you on that, the 1L 3cyl looks good on paper but in practice its not efficient.
why do you think the purpose of the car was in the 1st place? i know for a fact the Ford gets better mileage!! You guys judge cars by "SPEED" , now THATS what i call not efficient!
ever hear the saying "a small work horse will over work himself but a large workhorse will work to little" the 1.0 3cyl seems like it s a good idea but its always working much harder than a 1.4L 4cyl supercharged engine, thus you get about the same MPG but you get better acceleration and grunt... i would rather get same MPG and better "grunt"
or the 1.2L as well.
or 1.5 from
Patrick Hightower How do you know? In Europe Ford sells 1.0 Ecoboost engine in a Focus for 2 years and in Fiesta since last year. It's been tested in many ways in many European countries and the results are clear - claimed fuel consumption is nowhere near the real one and it's very sensitive about your drive style. Real world 33 mpg combined is pretty bad result for such small car like Fiesta. The main rival - 1.2TSI from Volkswagen is better - more refined, more economical (Golf VII 1.2 TSI does 33 mpg city) and faster even though it has less power.