Honestly your default layer is the best layer. Your team did an excellent job deciding what layout feels the most natural and based on that a consumer can modify it to their choice. Not once have I changed the layout. Only a 3 to 4 keys were changed for coding preference.
I don't know man, I added a bunch of superkeys and macros, hid my password on a random layer where I basically just have to roll all my fingers and done, also played with some of the accesses to certain symbols I want on my first layer Plus the layout, buuuuut, their default layer is really good, solid AF for sure
Something I have been using a lot lately, is that I have the rightmost of the bottom three thumbkeys on the left half of the Defy set to both Copy and Paste. I use a Superkey so that if I hold it then it becomes Copy (think pushing a sponge down in water and letting it soak) and if I tap it then it becomes Paste (think quickly squeezing the sponge). It takes a little getting used to, but honestly, not much, and now I no longer have to reach at all for either Copy or Paste, which traditionally are not fun reaches, especially Paste... assuming you try to do them with one hand.
For this solution I have almost all of my letter keys as super keys. If I tap, it is my normal letter, if I hold it's usually any function I use with that key, or that the name makes sense with the letter
I also had to increase a bit (not much) the delay on my super keys when holding, as some habits I had would trigger them for less than half a milisecond, like it wouldn't be enough to double type the letter, but it would be enought to register it as a hold, so I had to cover that difference
My copy/paste superkey is: tap: copy, 2-tap: cut, tap-hold: paste, 2-tap-hold: paste plain text, and hold is select all. One of my most used key. Then....I tried experimenting and moved that superkey to another location and my day went downhill quickly... :)
I really agree that productivity is also important. And that productivity is not only measured in words per minute. Programmable must be standard on all keyboards. One important thing is that in Bazecor we can program individual lights of the keycaps to help memorize newly assigned keys. I only changed the most obvious frequently terrible keys (combinations). So productivity didn't went down initially (was around the same). And now after a while productivity is enhanced. And I have a cheat sheet (snip jpeg file), where I can switch to really fast with keyboard shortcuts.
I have been interested in these dygma boards for some time now, but good lord the cost is prohibitive. I mean good luck to you guys, maybe one day I can afford one, but for now I'll just stick to my keychrons. x.x
I submitted my layer 1. My best attempt at a general purpose layer to work in Windows and Linux plus programming in both. I pretty much only leave layer 1 for the arrow keys on layer 2. Hopefully my one-stop-shop layer makes it all...the...way!
The layer tournament seems cool. Don’t have my hands on my raise 2 yet so I can’t troubleshoot my layer ideas yet. But I have some interesting ideas for what I can do for CAD…
There is a spectrum or distribution curve of keyboard users of users who prefer a high physical load (as many keys as possible) to users who prefer a high cognitive load (as little keys as possible). I googled that less than 20% of keyboard users know touch typing. Where I work only 5% know touch typing. The rest is always looking at the keyboard. I think roughly 20% use all fingers, 20% three fingers (2 index, 1 thumb) and the remaining 55% most fingers (most of the time not the pinkies). It would be great for the non-touch users to have 1u keycaps of all the side keys that are not 1u; Q, A and Z keycaps in the tab, caps and shift u-width if we could arrange programmable keyboards for them. And all types of thumb keys also should have keycaps that have all the sidekeys. The Raise has 3 different types of keycaps for thumbs, and the Defy maybe 15 different types. Because especially for the "looking at the keyboard while using most fingers" users, their hands are blocking their view of most keys. If we moved side keys to the middle for the thumbs and index fingers, then more keys are visible for direct hits and thus faster hits. A standard full size keyboard would come with roughly 85 extra keycaps. A raise far more and a Defy would surely be over 1.000 extra keycaps. Would be too expensive, thus this is a dumb idea, and we'll never get the 80% of keyboard users to get a Defy or Raise. 😕
I think the way might be to lure them into the hobby with ergonomic keyboards that are less far away from normal keyboards. We tried that with the Raise but maybe we need something more normal 😅
before the defy i was typing with just 2 fingers, learning to type on the defy was fairly easy and now i am using all 10 fingers, still need to start adding macro's though and move some keys around
Are they really that useful? We feel like having to move your whole hand to use them partially defeats the purpose, but we're open to having our mind changed 😊
@@DygmaLab they're pretty useful I have them on my keyboard rn it's nice to at least have one for music. It's pretty easy to reach if you have one positioned like the sofle for example but the lack of one now holds me back from purchasing some keyboards. Regardless I do think your keyboard is well designed
Never look at your keyboard. Then why do we need all those LED lights for?! 😂 Use case that I think useful is just about knowing which layer your in based on underglow
It is like a logo on the back of a tshirt. You dont need it, you dont see it, but damn you still choose that cool looking shirt from the closet just because it has that.
Hah. Feels like I already will lose this one. I don't trust a lot of layers. Just the default layer plus one for function keys & arrow keys. Turns out I am a vanilla baby.
Honestly your default layer is the best layer. Your team did an excellent job deciding what layout feels the most natural and based on that a consumer can modify it to their choice. Not once have I changed the layout. Only a 3 to 4 keys were changed for coding preference.
I don't know man, I added a bunch of superkeys and macros, hid my password on a random layer where I basically just have to roll all my fingers and done, also played with some of the accesses to certain symbols I want on my first layer
Plus the layout, buuuuut, their default layer is really good, solid AF for sure
Thank you! We put a lot of effort into the default layers 🥰
Something I have been using a lot lately, is that I have the rightmost of the bottom three thumbkeys on the left half of the Defy set to both Copy and Paste. I use a Superkey so that if I hold it then it becomes Copy (think pushing a sponge down in water and letting it soak) and if I tap it then it becomes Paste (think quickly squeezing the sponge).
It takes a little getting used to, but honestly, not much, and now I no longer have to reach at all for either Copy or Paste, which traditionally are not fun reaches, especially Paste... assuming you try to do them with one hand.
For this solution I have almost all of my letter keys as super keys. If I tap, it is my normal letter, if I hold it's usually any function I use with that key, or that the name makes sense with the letter
I also had to increase a bit (not much) the delay on my super keys when holding, as some habits I had would trigger them for less than half a milisecond, like it wouldn't be enough to double type the letter, but it would be enought to register it as a hold, so I had to cover that difference
That superkey is a godsend. Another one that's popular is Play/Pause on TAP, mute on HOLD and next song on Double TAP.
My copy/paste superkey is: tap: copy, 2-tap: cut, tap-hold: paste, 2-tap-hold: paste plain text, and hold is select all. One of my most used key. Then....I tried experimenting and moved that superkey to another location and my day went downhill quickly... :)
I really agree that productivity is also important. And that productivity is not only measured in words per minute.
Programmable must be standard on all keyboards.
One important thing is that in Bazecor we can program individual lights of the keycaps to help memorize newly assigned keys.
I only changed the most obvious frequently terrible keys (combinations). So productivity didn't went down initially (was around the same). And now after a while productivity is enhanced.
And I have a cheat sheet (snip jpeg file), where I can switch to really fast with keyboard shortcuts.
We agree! It adds so much potential to what the keyboard can do!
I have been interested in these dygma boards for some time now, but good lord the cost is prohibitive. I mean good luck to you guys, maybe one day I can afford one, but for now I'll just stick to my keychrons. x.x
Maybe someday 🥰
I submitted my layer 1. My best attempt at a general purpose layer to work in Windows and Linux plus programming in both. I pretty much only leave layer 1 for the arrow keys on layer 2. Hopefully my one-stop-shop layer makes it all...the...way!
We're selecting the participants for the tournament on Monday 😊
The layer tournament seems cool.
Don’t have my hands on my raise 2 yet so I can’t troubleshoot my layer ideas yet. But I have some interesting ideas for what I can do for CAD…
Even if it's not perfect, we encourage you to send it 😊
There is a spectrum or distribution curve of keyboard users of users who prefer a high physical load (as many keys as possible) to users who prefer a high cognitive load (as little keys as possible).
I googled that less than 20% of keyboard users know touch typing.
Where I work only 5% know touch typing. The rest is always looking at the keyboard.
I think roughly 20% use all fingers, 20% three fingers (2 index, 1 thumb) and the remaining 55% most fingers (most of the time not the pinkies).
It would be great for the non-touch users to have 1u keycaps of all the side keys that are not 1u; Q, A and Z keycaps in the tab, caps and shift u-width if we could arrange programmable keyboards for them.
And all types of thumb keys also should have keycaps that have all the sidekeys. The Raise has 3 different types of keycaps for thumbs, and the Defy maybe 15 different types.
Because especially for the "looking at the keyboard while using most fingers" users, their hands are blocking their view of most keys. If we moved side keys to the middle for the thumbs and index fingers, then more keys are visible for direct hits and thus faster hits.
A standard full size keyboard would come with roughly 85 extra keycaps. A raise far more and a Defy would surely be over 1.000 extra keycaps.
Would be too expensive, thus this is a dumb idea, and we'll never get the 80% of keyboard users to get a Defy or Raise. 😕
And stickers are not a solution. Because no one puts stickers on a Ferrari or Lamborghini. And Raise and Defy are like supercars.
I think the way might be to lure them into the hobby with ergonomic keyboards that are less far away from normal keyboards. We tried that with the Raise but maybe we need something more normal 😅
before the defy i was typing with just 2 fingers, learning to type on the defy was fairly easy and now i am using all 10 fingers, still need to start adding macro's though and move some keys around
Wow congrats! We might do a new video talking about macros 😊
I am right-handed but have for many years kept my mouse on the left, partly to avoid jumping my right hand over the numpad!
That's a smart solution 🙌
i use a few layers, and modified a qwerty layout. i'm excited to see other's to get better ideas
We are too 😊
Can you only submit singular layers for this competition? My best layers are designed as a group (with one theme).
You can send a set if you want. Maybe upload a backup instead of just the layer and explain it in the submission form 😊
@@DygmaLab Thanks, I did so. 👍
Wish there was a knob for volume or something
Are they really that useful? We feel like having to move your whole hand to use them partially defeats the purpose, but we're open to having our mind changed 😊
@@DygmaLab they're pretty useful I have them on my keyboard rn it's nice to at least have one for music. It's pretty easy to reach if you have one positioned like the sofle for example but the lack of one now holds me back from purchasing some keyboards. Regardless I do think your keyboard is well designed
Bigger than > and smaller than
Thank You!
Superpower! 💪
Yas! 💪🦸♀️
Is it only for dygma keyboards? I would like to share my layout also ;-;
You can download Bazecor at dygma.com/bazecor and create an adaptation to our boards using the virtual keyboards feature 😊
Never look at your keyboard. Then why do we need all those LED lights for?! 😂
Use case that I think useful is just about knowing which layer your in based on underglow
Besides knowing when you changed layers, it's also useful for when you are learning the layers. It can serve as a visual guide.
It is like a logo on the back of a tshirt. You dont need it, you dont see it, but damn you still choose that cool looking shirt from the closet just because it has that.
Hah. Feels like I already will lose this one. I don't trust a lot of layers. Just the default layer plus one for function keys & arrow keys.
Turns out I am a vanilla baby.
Well maybe you can use the tournament as an excuse to try to design one 🥰