Thank you so much for the review! For the problem with shortcuts, the way to go is layers, as you mention. For example, a layer where UI, JK and M, are () [] {} is really useful. You just "shift" to that layer temporarily. It's like pressing "shift" or "alt" but configurable 😅
Fellow defy user here. I started with cherry reds, ended up switching a few weeks ago to kailh speed coopers; imo, after trying mx cherry reds, blues and browns with other keyboards, the kailh speed coopers are my favorites, I might even lube them. Other keyboards feel like crap now, I can still go back to staggered if I need to. The only contender this has right now is the glove80, both have their pros/cons (low profile switches and concavity vs lights and modularity); I'd give the glove 80 a shot if I had money to waste, but I'm really happy with going with the Defy instead of a Moonlander/Ergodox/Kinesis/etc. If anyone wants to go the ergonomic way, it's either between those 2 -they are the S tier of the ergo keyboards. Try adding delete to the thumb cluster, it may take time to re-adapt, but it's worth it.
@@maxd3589 Defy by 1000 miles, learning ortho/columnar staggered is worth it. Raise 2 if you are lazy and don't type much. The only real contender is the Glove80, but I'm good with my Defy, I couldn't try either so I went with Dygma because of the bling; the Glove80 seems just a tad more fitting ergonomically speaking with the concave wells, but I've learned to love the 8 button thumb cluster and don't see myself going back to stop using my thumbs like I'm now. So I got a keyboard that's inspiring to look, comfy af, helps me type faster, be mindful and don't use red switches, kahil speed coppers is the way to go. Defy or Raise 2, you are gonna love it. The only pro that the Raise 2 has, it's the further connectivity for a planned modular trackball and more modular stuff they plan to release in the future; they may add that to a Defy 2 with improved battery and else.
I’m using Mistel Barocco for two years and I like it because it’s a split with a traditional layout - I don’t have energy to learn a completely different layout, and I still use other (more normal keyboards) from time to time, so it would mean switching between different layouts.
Oh, it's definitely doing when I'm trying to figure out how to hit shortcuts on it 😅 Sorts out I don't know them, my fingers know where they were on a regular keyboard.
Appreciate the review. Right now I am polarized between the Dygma Defy and ZSA Voyager. I read too many firmware issues on Defy and their new v2.0 firmware is due shortly. Ideally I’d take them both. LOL.
The price of this keyboard is completely out of this world! I had the opportunity to try it out for a short time at my friend's place. He had it for about a month and stopped using it because of the horrible layout. Switching between programmed key layouts is also out. When programming, you need to focus on code and not thinking about on which layout you have some key or shortcut. If you learn to type well on this keyboard and then you're forced to start working in a different environment, you'll have a hard time learning to type again. I will rather use ergonomic mechanical keyboard with clasical layout for half price.
I see your point and you are not wrong, but part of the users choosing ergonomic keyboards to fix the pain they have typing on regular keyboards. Agree about unnecessary complication to access symbols and arrow keys
Shortcuts and some key positions feels tricky for programming. So, I don't know for sure. That's a bit like a love / hate relationship when I'm programming.
yes, there are plenty of freelancers/consultants in the world
7 หลายเดือนก่อน
Hi Aivars I have a question for you, I started to earn $20 per month as an indie developer, it's a small step, do you advertise at first for this app to grow that I'm curious about? I don't want to throw the money away because I have a very limited budget, what can you recommend is it to make 1000$ MMR organically (without advertising) to grow the new app?
Yeah, that's not handy at all. I'm using them a lot to jump to the end of the work or string, page up, etc. This and shortcuts making me to go back to the regular keyboard.
😂 your wife is right, you can stick with kettlebel Unlikelly I would buy this or any other split keyboards after my expierience with illy 58, but this one feels much better. Anyways, writing this on MB keyboard, which still is most used from my keyboards.
![เปิดบ้าน โคตรสวย ป๋องกพล รู้จักตั้งนาน เพิ่งรู้ว่ารวย!!! l [Nickynachat]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/tmgCF_2HfYI/mqdefault.jpg)
![เป็นไปได้ไหม - WanMai [Official MV]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/_6lZ6b3_7Vo/mqdefault.jpg)
Thank you so much for the review!
For the problem with shortcuts, the way to go is layers, as you mention. For example, a layer where UI, JK and M, are () [] {} is really useful. You just "shift" to that layer temporarily. It's like pressing "shift" or "alt" but configurable 😅
Thanks for the tips!
Fellow defy user here. I started with cherry reds, ended up switching a few weeks ago to kailh speed coopers; imo, after trying mx cherry reds, blues and browns with other keyboards, the kailh speed coopers are my favorites, I might even lube them. Other keyboards feel like crap now, I can still go back to staggered if I need to. The only contender this has right now is the glove80, both have their pros/cons (low profile switches and concavity vs lights and modularity); I'd give the glove 80 a shot if I had money to waste, but I'm really happy with going with the Defy instead of a Moonlander/Ergodox/Kinesis/etc. If anyone wants to go the ergonomic way, it's either between those 2 -they are the S tier of the ergo keyboards. Try adding delete to the thumb cluster, it may take time to re-adapt, but it's worth it.
Defy or the Raise 2?
@@maxd3589 Defy by 1000 miles, learning ortho/columnar staggered is worth it. Raise 2 if you are lazy and don't type much. The only real contender is the Glove80, but I'm good with my Defy, I couldn't try either so I went with Dygma because of the bling; the Glove80 seems just a tad more fitting ergonomically speaking with the concave wells, but I've learned to love the 8 button thumb cluster and don't see myself going back to stop using my thumbs like I'm now. So I got a keyboard that's inspiring to look, comfy af, helps me type faster, be mindful and don't use red switches, kahil speed coppers is the way to go.
Defy or Raise 2, you are gonna love it. The only pro that the Raise 2 has, it's the further connectivity for a planned modular trackball and more modular stuff they plan to release in the future; they may add that to a Defy 2 with improved battery and else.
I’m using Mistel Barocco for two years and I like it because it’s a split with a traditional layout - I don’t have energy to learn a completely different layout, and I still use other (more normal keyboards) from time to time, so it would mean switching between different layouts.
Switching back to the regular keyboard is not hard, but yeah, the new layout took a bit of time to learn.
Found your content on instagram and didn’t knew you had a TH-cam channel. Keep up the amazing work! 🔥💪🏻
it kinda looks like the keyboard is giving you the middle finger
Oh, it's definitely doing when I'm trying to figure out how to hit shortcuts on it 😅
Sorts out I don't know them, my fingers know where they were on a regular keyboard.
Appreciate the review. Right now I am polarized between the Dygma Defy and ZSA Voyager. I read too many firmware issues on Defy and their new v2.0 firmware is due shortly. Ideally I’d take them both. LOL.
More is better for sure :)
The price of this keyboard is completely out of this world! I had the opportunity to try it out for a short time at my friend's place. He had it for about a month and stopped using it because of the horrible layout. Switching between programmed key layouts is also out. When programming, you need to focus on code and not thinking about on which layout you have some key or shortcut. If you learn to type well on this keyboard and then you're forced to start working in a different environment, you'll have a hard time learning to type again. I will rather use ergonomic mechanical keyboard with clasical layout for half price.
I see your point and you are not wrong, but part of the users choosing ergonomic keyboards to fix the pain they have typing on regular keyboards.
Agree about unnecessary complication to access symbols and arrow keys
Should get the Raise. Traditional staggered layout.
"for disclaimer, and for my wife" hahahahahahahaha. awesome
Just in case she watching :D
@@AivarsMeijers hahahaha
very nice video . i wonder if this keyboard will be your mind driver daily or you are going to switch back to normal mechanical keyboards ?
Shortcuts and some key positions feels tricky for programming. So, I don't know for sure. That's a bit like a love / hate relationship when I'm programming.
@@AivarsMeijers got your point . thanks for the reply
Hi Aivars, are you a full-time ios freelancer?
is it realistic to live/work in this format?
yes, there are plenty of freelancers/consultants in the world
Hi Aivars I have a question for you, I started to earn $20 per month as an indie developer, it's a small step, do you advertise at first for this app to grow that I'm curious about? I don't want to throw the money away because I have a very limited budget, what can you recommend is it to make 1000$ MMR organically (without advertising) to grow the new app?
I doubt ads will help a lot, especially if the budget is small.
I would try content marketing and ASO
damn I didnt know it has such angle, I need it to prevent RSI !
shouldve tried the glove80
Yeh, that looks good as well
Only indirect cursor keys seem like an odd concept.
Yeah, that's not handy at all. I'm using them a lot to jump to the end of the work or string, page up, etc. This and shortcuts making me to go back to the regular keyboard.
Stopped watching on a "price" )) My wife will tell me that I already have a kettlebelt
😂 your wife is right, you can stick with kettlebel
Unlikelly I would buy this or any other split keyboards after my expierience with illy 58, but this one feels much better.
Anyways, writing this on MB keyboard, which still is most used from my keyboards.
Nice work