there are lots of reports of problems with the delidder - stripping of the screw threads/simply not being able to remove the IHS with the default method used. this seems to be compounded with the 13900ks which seems to have stronger soldering. can EK comment if there will be a revision to this tool? fwiw I have bought this tool and the delid block, but after hearing all the horror stories on OCN it has been sitting on my desk unused since March.
Wonder if intel will ever decide to sell a cpu range that comes without IHS from the factory. Call it a K-DD variant, dd for direct die. (I9-13900K-DD)
@@mrfinn2006 On laptops, neither has a lid, both cpu and gpu are direct die cooling. The not so bright bulbs out there is also why I am saying it should be a seperate model as an addition to the usual line-up of overclockable CPUs. Those that aren't the brightest of the bunch would not be buying an un-lidded cpu.
We wanted to get the info out as soon as possible as it was brought to our attention by the users that it was a bit more challenging to remove the IHS on some individual CPU samples. Our R&D team is working is on updating the manual - the first version of the manual should work for most CPUs, but these extra steps were introduced to make it easier to delid yours if that method doesn't work.
I pre-ordered this kit together with the upgrade kit last February 10 but so far I have not yet received it. Every time I get in touch with customer service, they always say it's going to be shipped within 3 days. But still nothing.
Same. I ordered mine at February 1. Still waiting. They could have at least sent the rest of my order. Then it would at least be possible to cool the CPU without direct die kit in the mean time. But it seems it's more inportant to them to safe a few bucks on shipping. I'm getting frustrated. My PC will be outdated til i can start it the first time.
@@DickHallon you probably want to push the hell out of a 13900K/KS too for sure. A shame there's not much of an alternative out there. Be careful with that EK delidding tool. There have been lots of cases in which people destroyed the threads before getting rid of the first IHS. It's unlikely they're strong enough to be used for several CPUs. So no reselling that thing on eBay after it's been used.
@@AlexanderDinebier I am thinking of waiting to see the delidding tool from the thermal grizzly. Im in no rush.. I just dont like being lied to by ekwb, I love there products but sometimes there customer service leaves something to be desired.
@@DickHallon is that one made of alloy too? Cause that's the reason some of the EK tools failed. For 75€ i expect to get a tool that's strong enough to survive years of usage. But they'll probably stick with the soft alloy. Should be easy to fix though. Just drill out the thread and insert a hardened steel thread insert from the back, then pull it into the slider with a long screw while the slider is inside of the bigger part. Add some heat resistant grease to the thread before usage. Then it should survive really long.
Man 85 bucks for a delid tool is kinda nuts, is there not another option? also is it worth it to just delid, contact plate and liquid metal, only lapping IHS (no direct die)?
Over a good month later I am still wating for the ordered tool ... and their official responses to the store (from Holland) I have ordered it through are all over the place ... practically asking for one more month of patience ... really dissapointed and I am most probably canceling the order after I write this comment here ... If I was to wait for a month or as it looks like 2 ... i could have ordered the rockitcool one from the US and already have it delivered in EU and done my job ... it looks like sending samples to known TH-camrs is a priority instead of fullfiling their orders
We've been investigating a reported issue with some products, which affected a small number of CPUs. We'll be sending out these products as soon as possible, we just wanted to triple check them to make sure they work as intended.
Has anyone ever melted the dye off the cpu? i used a heat gun for 20 seconds and it came off like butter. Removed the ihs the the pcb didn’t have anything under but just the adhesive . I’m guessing i destroyed my cpu
This is not right guys, your product manual does not reflects any of the steps shown on this video. More over you launched this video several weeks after we received our product. Honestly I am really disappointed with this.
We wanted to share new information with your ASAP as it was brought to our attention by some users that IHS removal process on individual CPU samples was harder than what our team experienced in the lab. The manual's first version worked for all the CPUs we tested in the lab. Still, we tested a few other methods and added them into the process to ease the IHS removal process for anyone that is experiencing challenges when delidding their CPU.
Hello. how do i take off the CPU waterblock after direct die cooling with liquid metal? Do i run something give my CPU a full load like prime95 to get the liquid metal get it hot so can let go the waterblock? And i would of use Flitz Polish to take off the liquid metal after Delid. it's a better way.
Liquid metal remains liquid when you take the cpu waterblock off unless you live in the arctic and have no heating at home... So you dont need to warm it up to remove the waterblock, but you should be slow and careful when you take it off so you don't splash the LM.
what difference in temp between vector 2 regular contact compared to direct contact of cpu???????????????????????????????????????????? it should show same temperature Range on any cpu
I want to say thank you for doing a video of your product. I wish more companies would take the time to do things like this, but I have to say. You know we dont have no 70 degree oven LoL! I wish you would of just used a heat gun which is more accessible to the general population.
so you made a tool to delid the cpu, but have to use thread and plunger to delid. EK did a poor job here, even their direct die velocity 2 waterblock is also not good enough. iceman cooler or supercool computer direct die is much better.
Very cool Video! EK, you make the coolest products out there!❤🔥🔥 But please, please please please.... a Monoblock for the ASUS ROG CROSSHAIR X670E Extreme would be sooooo freaking awesome!🙏
Kit has no where near enough liquid metal to disolve the indium let alone mount the cooler. Now i have to order more and no pc until it arrives. Thanks alot EK
a video actually helping your customers delid their $500 dollar cpu...... ya'll some *real ones* ❤ I'm gettin an EKWB cpu block right after I finish delidding my cpu 🤣
The damage to the screw and the thread on the slide is more likely because the CPU is beheaded over the long side. DER8AUER's tool does this via the short side of the CPU. This works without any problems.
Tip. If you develop something like this, enclose written instructions. I killed my 13700k because I put it in the wrong way round. I am not happy now! This Video is to late for me.
I would like to add that heating up the CPU makes it even more difficult to delidden the CPU. I think that cooling down to 0 - 5 degrees is better. Thus, the glue and the indium are harder - have a shorter break-off point. When heated, on the other hand, everything is more viscous and difficult to separate.
Can anyone explain why Intel does this, "shtuff". Why do we have to prove that Intel are stupid not to do this at production? Why is this procedure even a "thing"?
This is for people ocd about the temps, if you didn’t want high temps you shouldn’t have bought a 13900k, and if you bought it for gaming you deff don’t know what you’re doing
My 13900k died, I’m buying a new one from Best Buy, swapping the chips and delid them so it looks the same then I’m going to return the dead 13900k, get a free i9, and $620 cash baby
i wanted to buy the msi 4090 waterblock here in the country it costs 400€ honestly it's a little bit too much. Is it true that you want to increase your prices for the products.
I love how this vid came out after you sent these kits to all the youtubers and they made vids. Linus fucked everything up and thought the liquid metal was for thermal application and never used it to clean off the die. Jay about broke his cpu cause no one was flipping the cpu around and using side 2. What an epic fail for them. So sad to see people like that get blessed with free stuff and completely screw everything up.
I have same issue. At water temp 20 degree celcius, my 13900ks with ek dd can only costs up to 400watt at 110 degree celcius. I reinstalled 7 times, repaste liquid metal, results are same. 400watt with 110 celcius. 330 watt with 80 celcius. This result is same as heatkiller 4 pro with Stock IHS. 400 watt with 110 degree. Actually, ek dd is worse than normal cpu block. Core temp difference on heatkiller is only 7 degree difference, however ek dd is more than 15 degree. Core4, 7, and 8 extremely high. Once I changed to iceman dd, i got cured. At 330 watt it is only 60 degree. 550 watt with 110 degree. Shame on you, ek What did de8auer do? Just rent reputation and have money? Than just decrease the price without name on it. I dont think ek will recall this garbage product. People who bought this product expect good cooling performance, not the same performance with stock ihs. And also, why does ek always delay their product? Once you said it will start deliver on mid Feb, it supposed to start at least 20 Feb. It is promise with customer, especially you received money first. If you guys think you cannot gurantee the time, than receive money later. I was big fan of ek, no more. Quality keeps decreasing, price keeps increasing, and most of product need to be rma. Im tired of this.
Wish you had taken close ups when working on the pcb.
there are lots of reports of problems with the delidder - stripping of the screw threads/simply not being able to remove the IHS with the default method used. this seems to be compounded with the 13900ks which seems to have stronger soldering. can EK comment if there will be a revision to this tool? fwiw I have bought this tool and the delid block, but after hearing all the horror stories on OCN it has been sitting on my desk unused since March.
Something just not seems right here when the IHS just doesn't pop off after doing the procedure 😢
We call this kind of product a "Monkey Hoops Toy" lol!
Wonder if intel will ever decide to sell a cpu range that comes without IHS from the factory. Call it a K-DD variant, dd for direct die. (I9-13900K-DD)
The lid is there to prevent idiots killing the chip. The only reason we don't have a lid on GPUs is because they are a cooler installed product.
@@mrfinn2006 On laptops, neither has a lid, both cpu and gpu are direct die cooling. The not so bright bulbs out there is also why I am saying it should be a seperate model as an addition to the usual line-up of overclockable CPUs. Those that aren't the brightest of the bunch would not be buying an un-lidded cpu.
Hello EKWB - Please also update the installation manual according to the video.
I agree with you.. using heat is recommended
We wanted to get the info out as soon as possible as it was brought to our attention by the users that it was a bit more challenging to remove the IHS on some individual CPU samples. Our R&D team is working is on updating the manual - the first version of the manual should work for most CPUs, but these extra steps were introduced to make it easier to delid yours if that method doesn't work.
Will the delidder and direct die kits be compatible with 14th gen?
Yes works with 14th gen
Is Delidding intel 13900KS safe with this tool also? or is there any PCB Components to watch out for like 12th gen?
I pre-ordered this kit together with the upgrade kit last February 10 but so far I have not yet received it. Every time I get in touch with customer service, they always say it's going to be shipped within 3 days. But still nothing.
Same. I ordered mine at February 1. Still waiting. They could have at least sent the rest of my order. Then it would at least be possible to cool the CPU without direct die kit in the mean time.
But it seems it's more inportant to them to safe a few bucks on shipping. I'm getting frustrated. My PC will be outdated til i can start it the first time.
Same here I cancelled my order then got my direct die thru performance PC it arrived yesterday, I still need the deluding tool😢
@@DickHallon you probably want to push the hell out of a 13900K/KS too for sure. A shame there's not much of an alternative out there. Be careful with that EK delidding tool. There have been lots of cases in which people destroyed the threads before getting rid of the first IHS. It's unlikely they're strong enough to be used for several CPUs. So no reselling that thing on eBay after it's been used.
@@AlexanderDinebier I am thinking of waiting to see the delidding tool from the thermal grizzly. Im in no rush.. I just dont like being lied to by ekwb, I love there products but sometimes there customer service leaves something to be desired.
@@DickHallon is that one made of alloy too? Cause that's the reason some of the EK tools failed. For 75€ i expect to get a tool that's strong enough to survive years of usage. But they'll probably stick with the soft alloy. Should be easy to fix though. Just drill out the thread and insert a hardened steel thread insert from the back, then pull it into the slider with a long screw while the slider is inside of the bigger part. Add some heat resistant grease to the thread before usage. Then it should survive really long.
Isn't cold glue a bit easier as it does not keep working once it breaks?
Not when you're using industrial strength glue that can rip the whole processor in half - Not a terrible idea to heat it up slightly.
Man 85 bucks for a delid tool is kinda nuts, is there not another option? also is it worth it to just delid, contact plate and liquid metal, only lapping IHS (no direct die)?
You could make one yourself from wood or print it. I wouldn't recommend it, but a very thin blade can cut along the rubbery glue...
Cool video, why isn’t this method included in the instructions?
Has the delid tool issue (stripped thread on first use) been fixed?
Hi EK need a direct die block for AM5 7950X will EK be making one please.
good on posting a video. I had a hell of a time with mine.
Thats German engineering for you
Over a good month later I am still wating for the ordered tool ... and their official responses to the store (from Holland) I have ordered it through are all over the place ... practically asking for one more month of patience ... really dissapointed and I am most probably canceling the order after I write this comment here ...
If I was to wait for a month or as it looks like 2 ... i could have ordered the rockitcool one from the US and already have it delivered in EU and done my job ... it looks like sending samples to known TH-camrs is a priority instead of fullfiling their orders
We've been investigating a reported issue with some products, which affected a small number of CPUs. We'll be sending out these products as soon as possible, we just wanted to triple check them to make sure they work as intended.
Has anyone ever melted the dye off the cpu? i used a heat gun for 20 seconds and it came off like butter. Removed the ihs the the pcb didn’t have anything under but just the adhesive . I’m guessing i destroyed my cpu
This is not right guys, your product manual does not reflects any of the steps shown on this video. More over you launched this video several weeks after we received our product.
Honestly I am really disappointed with this.
We wanted to share new information with your ASAP as it was brought to our attention by some users that IHS removal process on individual CPU samples was harder than what our team experienced in the lab. The manual's first version worked for all the CPUs we tested in the lab. Still, we tested a few other methods and added them into the process to ease the IHS removal process for anyone that is experiencing challenges when delidding their CPU.
can you make a delid video on 7950x and 7800x3d
Will this also work on the AMD 7950X3D? And if not, will there be a kit (lid remover & custom waterblock) coming out for this CPU?
There is a delidder you can buy from Derbauer for the 7950X3D.
@@noone5014 no official kit, including CPU waterblock, available directly from EK?
This won't work on the AMD CPUs, but we're working on the direct die watercooling for the Ryzen 7000 series and everything that comes with it :)
Hello. how do i take off the CPU waterblock after direct die cooling with liquid metal? Do i run something give my CPU a full load like prime95 to get the liquid metal get it hot so can let go the waterblock? And i would of use Flitz Polish to take off the liquid metal after Delid. it's a better way.
Liquid metal remains liquid when you take the cpu waterblock off unless you live in the arctic and have no heating at home... So you dont need to warm it up to remove the waterblock, but you should be slow and careful when you take it off so you don't splash the LM.
what difference in temp between vector 2 regular contact compared to direct contact of cpu????????????????????????????????????????????
it should show same temperature Range on any cpu
i wish someday Intel will sell CPU that are already delid.. this process is a hit or miss.
They used to. Back in the 90's
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I want to say thank you for doing a video of your product. I wish more companies would take the time to do things like this, but I have to say. You know we dont have no 70 degree oven LoL! I wish you would of just used a heat gun which is more accessible to the general population.
I think most homes in North America have ovens, it's a staple appliance in the kitchen.
@@alexqiu1758 Ovens dont go down to 158/160 F in N America. Hes using a counter top oven.
Toaster ovens and air fryers are inexpensive.
never in a billion years id see a cpu literally get cooked in an oven
LET HIM COOK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
EK please make distro plate for Asus gx601 helios and gr701 hyperon
Hyperion distro is coming :)
so you made a tool to delid the cpu, but have to use thread and plunger to delid. EK did a poor job here, even their direct die velocity 2 waterblock is also not good enough. iceman cooler or supercool computer direct die is much better.
Very cool Video! EK, you make the coolest products out there!❤🔥🔥 But please, please please please.... a Monoblock for the ASUS ROG CROSSHAIR X670E Extreme would be sooooo freaking awesome!🙏
They need to just start selling delidded CPUs ready to go already mounted inside the EK Blocks.
which country are you from ? i actually sell them.
Can I put some nuggs and maybe a hot pocket or 2 in there at the same time? Brotha gotta eat
Kit has no where near enough liquid metal to disolve the indium let alone mount the cooler. Now i have to order more and no pc until it arrives. Thanks alot EK
I guess they watched Linus use the tool
I lost it at oven 🙃
a video actually helping your customers delid their $500 dollar cpu......
ya'll some *real ones* ❤ I'm gettin an EKWB cpu block right after I finish delidding my cpu 🤣
Ryzen 7000 Direct die block when?
We don't have an ETA yet, but we are working on it.
Worst delid tool ever, made from cheap metal and as a result the thread strips, EKWB quality and customer servive has been really poor recently.
The damage to the screw and the thread on the slide is more likely because the CPU is beheaded over the long side. DER8AUER's tool does this via the short side of the CPU. This works without any problems.
Tip. If you develop something like this, enclose written instructions. I killed my 13700k because I put it in the wrong way round. I am not happy now! This Video is to late for me.
there is a QR code that you scan for instructions.
I would like to add that heating up the CPU makes it even more difficult to delidden the CPU. I think that cooling down to 0 - 5 degrees is better. Thus, the glue and the indium are harder - have a shorter break-off point. When heated, on the other hand, everything is more viscous and difficult to separate.
hmmm why have they heated it here then?
Uh no lol no one does this. Everyone heats it. Jesus do not do this.
Uh, no. Heat it up. You're an absolute moron if you truly think otherwise lmao
I see this like a good option for upgradable laptop cpus
This is very cool
Dedicated to JayzTwoCents!!!!
do not buy
how to clean out that fuc***g metal from the die??
Next up, please show AM5 some delid love.
I am not buying any EKWB product until you guys learn what quality control is. You are producing in Europe, you should feel ashamed.
in vain you warmed
Can anyone explain why Intel does this, "shtuff". Why do we have to prove that Intel are stupid not to do this at production? Why is this procedure even a "thing"?
This is for people ocd about the temps, if you didn’t want high temps you shouldn’t have bought a 13900k, and if you bought it for gaming you deff don’t know what you’re doing
My 13900k died, I’m buying a new one from Best Buy, swapping the chips and delid them so it looks the same then I’m going to return the dead 13900k, get a free i9, and $620 cash baby
Nice music in background.
i wanted to buy the msi 4090 waterblock here in the country it costs 400€ honestly it's a little bit too much. Is it true that you want to increase your prices for the products.
If you can afford a 4090, you can afford a waterblock.
It's true about price increases,it says on the ek website
of course I can do that you can do that too sure
@@DarthChewie you're jealous right because you can't hahaha
I love how this vid came out after you sent these kits to all the youtubers and they made vids. Linus fucked everything up and thought the liquid metal was for thermal application and never used it to clean off the die. Jay about broke his cpu cause no one was flipping the cpu around and using side 2. What an epic fail for them. So sad to see people like that get blessed with free stuff and completely screw everything up.
But you do use liquid metal to clean off the die.
I have same issue.
At water temp 20 degree celcius, my 13900ks with ek dd can only costs up to 400watt at 110 degree celcius.
I reinstalled 7 times, repaste liquid metal, results are same. 400watt with 110 celcius. 330 watt with 80 celcius.
This result is same as heatkiller 4 pro with Stock IHS. 400 watt with 110 degree.
Actually, ek dd is worse than normal cpu block. Core temp difference on heatkiller is only 7 degree difference, however ek dd is more than 15 degree. Core4, 7, and 8 extremely high.
Once I changed to iceman dd, i got cured. At 330 watt it is only 60 degree.
550 watt with 110 degree.
Shame on you, ek
What did de8auer do?
Just rent reputation and have money?
Than just decrease the price without name on it.
I dont think ek will recall this garbage product.
People who bought this product expect good cooling performance, not the same performance with stock ihs.
And also, why does ek always delay their product? Once you said it will start deliver on mid Feb, it supposed to start at least 20 Feb. It is promise with customer, especially you received money first.
If you guys think you cannot gurantee the time, than receive money later.
I was big fan of ek, no more.
Quality keeps decreasing, price keeps increasing, and most of product need to be rma. Im tired of this.
@@Rashimotosan yeah i know. Go read what i was talking about or go watch Linus's video