I love how their reaction to the STB's complaints on them removing 27% of their workforce, is to attempt to also remove even more of their workforce. Ignorance is surely bliss. We need more people, not less.
12:48 anyone remember that time a runaway crude oil train derailed in Lac Megantic and blew up the town that could have been prevented if a SECOND crew member was present during the brake test?
@@bobjoy8415 Oh that was my grandfathers time, Even though the rolling stock was more dangerous back then they had less severe safety issues. (Smaller safety issues were still a pain, but we’ve got a majority of them ironed out now)
@@bobjoy8415 Nice! A lot of good that come from that time! During My Grandpa’s time, He said a lot of railroad companies were basically cutting each other’s throats to try to get more rail under their name. Ultimately not realizing that they themselves were bleeding out as well. (Looks like not much has changed)
On the transcon, bnsf has rapid responders but instead of it being a conductor it's a car man. Keep the conductor on the train and bring back more carmen.
They will eventually get it. First it was cut off the fireman, cut off the rear brakeman, cut off head brakeman, currently "Conductor" and "Engineer"(sometimes referred to as 'Conductor Only')thru freight BNSF What ever happened to 'Safety First'?
Dude, I am just waiting for the moment for all engineers and conductors to just quit and see what happens to the big leagues and share holders. Like I am waiting to see what happens when they are force to negotiate. Forget what the congress forced to agree to on the contract. They are not the workers for the rail industry, they are not Carmen’s, Maintenance of way, signal men, nor engineers or conductors, and others that work for the railroad. Like seriously. I am Carmen, my gf is a conductor, I have friends and family who work for the railroad. Like seriously, grab them pair of balls and put your foot down. Enough is enough.
If one man crews didn’t work out for MMA, (Montreal, Maine, and Atlantic) it definitely won’t work out for the big class one railroads that pull heavier trains.
This makes no sense. As a person who has grown up loving Trains and wants to become a Conductor…. This ticks me off. It is not safe period. How can an Engineer safely move 15,000 tons of freight by themselves. And for the Conductors to become expeditors is horrible. A perk of being a Conductor is to ride in the Locomotive not drive a truck to fix stuff on a broken down train. The Conductor also helps keep the Engineer awake. I know this won’t get past the FRA but still ticks me off that they would want to even consider doing this. Plain stupidity by people who clearly don’t know the Train Crew system that well.
This is the problem with modern railroads since the end of steam power in the 1950s all class 1 railroads cut jobs first was the roundhouse and steam locomotives that required lots of effort to maintain. Then was passenger trains in the 1960s. Next was we saw local freight trains decline it started in the 1970s. Next was the end of the caboose in the 1980s. Afterwards in the 1990s so many railroads consolidation began and had less crews afterwards. And then 2016 psr. Screw these people there is a reason I love railroads before 1950.
Sure, let's put one man or woman in a 11000-ton plus, mile long train alone who's Circadian Rhythm is already screwed up from working stupid hours. Add a DPU in this and you double the train size. How in the name of God do these maroons sleep at night. To anyone in Washington reading this...DO NOT LET THIS HAPPEN. Heck, I don't even work for a railroad and I can see this is just wrong.
This is Railroad management that have never actually done the job of conductor for an extended period of time and will never fully understand role with actual experience of schedule, conditions and responsibilities. They are only making a guess the expediter role will make things better. Let them fail as they have done with all their other decisions that is destroying the industry and workforce!
The only. Win they're gonna get is that the conductor doesn't have to walk?A mile which takes about fifteen minutes and then the conductor has to walk back was takes another fifteen minutes
Hey its good exercise and its our job...if u have an access rd to the side of the road, the engineer needs help staying awake. CSX lineville sub, doesnt have such luxuries. Plus, what they dont mention is that they will not need as many co nductors saves them many.
If you have a 15k length train, how is the Engineer going to walk the train and back in an Emergency ? Class I Railroad Mgmt. is Greedy, Clueless & Dangerous. 🤪👎
Walk 2 miles or drive 2 miles, look for a path to the train. Then walk the train when you get there because the Engineer doesn't know where the problem is until you walk the train. Yea this plan doesn't work. Will cause huge delays.
Curious as to how often the truck driving conductors will have to be called out per day to fix something. Seems like it’s going to be a boring job if it doesnt happen a lot. Sitting in a shack watching tv all day. I used to do standby as a emt occasionally for cities and you go insane waiting for something to happen, just sit around watching tv and getting fatter. To me this seems like its going to take twice as long. By the time the person gets in the truck, hopes theres a access point or some kinda road and to get to the defect. Curious to see how screwed up this is going to be
Job protection by firing the vast majority of conductors and keeping a bare sliver to act as expeditors. Yea they won't be furloughed, they'll be fired or "laid off". I don't know how this guy isn't choking on the utter shit that is coming out of his mouth.
Whenever we had an air hose pop somewhere on the rear 40 cars across a river and valley we had to call MoW to inspect the rear half since there wasnt a walkway on the bridge. we wasted more time waiting on them to come up and find us in the mountain than it would have for me to walk the entire train back and forth, if the walkway was there.
Anhydrous Ammonia has entered the chat and would like it’s breath taking awesomeness to be shared with the community. After all the conductor isn’t there to do it. This man is brilliant beyond words. Let’s do that ASAP. This coming from a non railroader unless you count volunteering at a museum short line railroad. Maybe vision is just shortsighted a bit.
Can’t wait until they go to 1 pilot in air travel. It’s always been about $$$$ and safety 2nd. In my opinion the rail industry is no different. I’m old enough to had lived through the Penn Central disaster. Watched a few videos about how CN and CP has cut the inspection times on trains to an unreasonable amount of time. It’s surprising to me there aren’t more rail disasters. I’m sure it’s the same everywhere in the US.
Yeah but what if you want to be a conductor to get valuable on the job experience as a step up to engineer? If I have learned anything in my 45 years on this earth, it's that there are some things you learn in a classroom, and others you learn doing the job with an experienced skilled veteran of the craft. We need to get back to apprenticeship in this country. As it is, our young people are just going broke paying for college where they learn nothing and get brainwashed. These suits are clowns.
Yeah, I hired on to be on a train not in a pickup. Plus, good luck keeping a lot of these ENs awake now. I had to yell at them to get them to reset the alerter many times.
Let's not play this game, focus on stopping one man crews! We've all been caught short rested, don't give the RR's more fuel. They get enough from the on board cameras. When the infighting starts, we all lose and give them what they want!
@@shawnkelsea1763 my comment wasn't meant to be derogatory so I'm sorry you took it that way. I mean if you're an EN I'm sure you can vouch that having another guy on the head end is a good thing. You can help each other stay awake for one thing. Plus you don't have the luxury of getting out of the seat and pacing around the cab like I did if I was tired. Also it lets you focus on running and not have to fool with the radio or calling signals. I don't have anything against the ENs if thats what you're assuming. Hell, I probably learned just as much from them as I did the COs. It was even them that showed me how to tie up and do other things in mainframe. It's about the safety aspect of having 2 men in the cab.
Don, I didn't take it that way but some might and a war of words could start. The RR's love it when there's in fighting between the unions and the crafts. That's when they get their worst work done! I would never want to see conductors in a truck! That's wrong on so many levels and yes, they're needed in the cab to help ease the load. I think there's an FRA rule about bathroom breaks and having the train stopped. I'll have to look it up, basically the train can't move until the member of the crew returns to their seat. Conductors dissappear, going to be a bunch of stopped trains for bathroom breaks alone!😉
I’m guessing a lot of them might quit. It’s completely changing their job around. We had a guy at our shop who was a great employee who worked the service truck, once they started the layoffs he got bumped to a hostler and ended up quitting a few weeks later as its not what he signed on for so i can imagine half the fun of a conductor is riding the engine, seeing the world, blah blah blah. I’m sure some will stay for the paycheck but if a job ain’t fun some will leave
It’s all cost cutting, it’s not about safety, morale or common sense. This is all about cutting costs so all these current executives of all these railroads can get their massive stock options and performance based bonuses before they retire.
If you work for UP, just sabotage the program by taking your sweet time every time you get called out for one of these and tell the dispatcher you can't reach the tracks because there's no road to get there. The program will be scrapped after about a week of holding up their profits
They are moving the role of Conductor into a Field Maintenance role, and then telling the Engineers that they'll need to operate on their own.. Then argues that it's "for quality of life" for conductors. That really wasn't the point being made by the Unions if I recall. They don't want you to change their job, they want you to be able to schedule ( within reason ) so they can plan their life around it. That's not even the bigger issue, the issue is you've unintentionally created a dangerous work environment by reducing the crew size of a train. If it has worked so well for the past 150 years, then why change a system that works? We all know the rail networks infrastructure can't handle autonomy, so why try? Bad choices. Tsk tsk.
I was kinda picking up by the speaker saying they are doing this for quality of life that basically he was saying is F U you guys did this to your self. You want quality of life this is what you get. I dont really see this being any safer or quicker in any way. Curious to how this all plays out
How many tens of thousands of dollars are you making on every train load of goods you haul....but yet your worried about a few hundred bucks for labor.......instead of worrying about your bottom line and stock holders ...why don't you worry about employees and maintenance before you don't have a railroad to run anymore
All I hear is "listen to me tell you how much money I can put in my pockets by putting THOUSANDS of people on the street, we'll just ignore potentially endangering millions of homes because im too ignorant to see the real world, so lets again look at the money I will have to spend on my corporate paid sick days off"
Maybe these “ suits” should work as an expeditor for a year before they implement this stupid idea! They give this lame excuse about safety, they obviously are not concerned about the safety of the non railroad public. Pure corporate greed.
Roll out: efficiency and safety. So much for Safety First. The Conductor can't walk the terrain along his train. But, the Expediter can drive a truck to it? The truth of this one man crews is the bottom line. They want EFFICIENCY Before SAFETY. He said it himself. Employees are a bad debt to Railroads. Sounds like they will settle if they can get one man crews. Notice how The first is baiting people with better working conditions. Will the remaining Engineers or "Pilots" have better working conditions while they are up in the loco alone for 12 hours? Since the time I started in 1968. Train crews shrank from 5 men down to 2 men, we lost Cabooses to Rear end devices. That could do everything except watch the train. We lost customers so the RR could get trains over the road. Divisional work became interdivisional work. Class one railroads will never be happy!
UP's vid is so fictionous! It's like if they are writing the skit for Denzel's new movie Unstoppable 2! Too many unforseens that will prevent a so-called truck conductor to get to a train in rural spots. Conductor on the train is the way to go, not a mobile conductor!
Here’s a link to the video by UP. th-cam.com/video/6hr15dtWwGU/w-d-xo.html The concept of a expeditor is great and should happen, but it shouldn’t be a alternative to having two people in the cab. My way of thinking is that it could be a seniority thing, where a conductor could bid to be a expeditor. The arguments made in the video are valid, as it will save time, but there is some areas that are unreachable by car, where a conductor would be able to do what the expeditor would do. Another thing is the fact that their poor train layouts are causing the increase in incidents where train crews are stopped for an hour or two fixing the issues (i.e DPU Linkage issues, broken knuckles).
Okay so during it they said its a pilot program to test viability. They also mention trying to address work/life balance for conductors. They mentioned it would not result in Furloughs nor would it effect pay. They are experimenting and you dudes couldn't catch any of it because this job doesn't require more than a GED. I am seeing a pattern with railroad workers and wanting change but demanding absolute perfection before even getting to TRY. Kinda sad to see but thats the older generation for you.
If you know nothing about the railroad keep your mouth quiet don’t compare the railroad to a truck y’all don’t have to deal with 16000 tons trains and 10000 feet train so don’t compare the railroad to a truck
@@sevingandy154 when you send your kids to college to go get a business degree all they learned is how to destroy humanity to keep the money in the big corporate
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An expediter on Donner Pass. What could possibly go wrong?
I love how their reaction to the STB's complaints on them removing 27% of their workforce, is to attempt to also remove even more of their workforce. Ignorance is surely bliss. We need more people, not less.
Absolutely, yet the cut, trim, and threaten. I've been sick since Wednesday.....I know what I signed up for in 2008 but this has to stop
12:48 anyone remember that time a runaway crude oil train derailed in Lac Megantic and blew up the town that could have been prevented if a SECOND crew member was present during the brake test?
I think we should go back to 4 man crews!
Shoot!
They should go back to the Steam Era of 5 man crews!
(2-3 up front with 3-2 in the back was how they did it)
@@smashkiller64 way before my time!
@@bobjoy8415
Oh that was my grandfathers time, Even though the rolling stock was more dangerous back then they had less severe safety issues.
(Smaller safety issues were still a pain, but we’ve got a majority of them ironed out now)
@@smashkiller64 I worked for the western pacific in 1979 to 82
@@bobjoy8415
Nice!
A lot of good that come from that time!
During My Grandpa’s time, He said a lot of railroad companies were basically cutting each other’s throats to try to get more rail under their name.
Ultimately not realizing that they themselves were bleeding out as well.
(Looks like not much has changed)
On the transcon, bnsf has rapid responders but instead of it being a conductor it's a car man. Keep the conductor on the train and bring back more carmen.
They will eventually get it.
First it was cut off the fireman,
cut off the rear brakeman,
cut off head brakeman,
currently "Conductor" and "Engineer"(sometimes referred to as 'Conductor Only')thru freight BNSF
What ever happened to 'Safety First'?
Dude, I am just waiting for the moment for all engineers and conductors to just quit and see what happens to the big leagues and share holders. Like I am waiting to see what happens when they are force to negotiate. Forget what the congress forced to agree to on the contract. They are not the workers for the rail industry, they are not Carmen’s, Maintenance of way, signal men, nor engineers or conductors, and others that work for the railroad. Like seriously. I am Carmen, my gf is a conductor, I have friends and family who work for the railroad. Like seriously, grab them pair of balls and put your foot down. Enough is enough.
And if a train breaks down where the expediter can’t get to now what … I’ll wait
Ask us MOW guys how often we can drive right up to the job to fix the track.
facts lol. Thats what I said when I herd them say that
Ask yourself this. Would you get on a commercial flight with only 1 pilot? Now apply the same logic with a 2 mile freight train
Here's an idea. Hire more car men or make the trains shorter.
More supertrains coming in 2023 💀
If one man crews didn’t work out for MMA, (Montreal, Maine, and Atlantic) it definitely won’t work out for the big class one railroads that pull heavier trains.
When the engineer suffers a heart attack alone in the cab, who renders him immediate aid? The expediter who is home?
That's a carman position already
This makes no sense. As a person who has grown up loving Trains and wants to become a Conductor…. This ticks me off. It is not safe period. How can an Engineer safely move 15,000 tons of freight by themselves. And for the Conductors to become expeditors is horrible. A perk of being a Conductor is to ride in the Locomotive not drive a truck to fix stuff on a broken down train. The Conductor also helps keep the Engineer awake. I know this won’t get past the FRA but still ticks me off that they would want to even consider doing this. Plain stupidity by people who clearly don’t know the Train Crew system that well.
This is the problem with modern railroads since the end of steam power in the 1950s all class 1 railroads cut jobs first was the roundhouse and steam locomotives that required lots of effort to maintain. Then was passenger trains in the 1960s. Next was we saw local freight trains decline it started in the 1970s. Next was the end of the caboose in the 1980s. Afterwards in the 1990s so many railroads consolidation began and had less crews afterwards. And then 2016 psr. Screw these people there is a reason I love railroads before 1950.
Sure, let's put one man or woman in a 11000-ton plus, mile long train alone who's Circadian Rhythm is already screwed up from working stupid hours. Add a DPU in this and you double the train size. How in the name of God do these maroons sleep at night. To anyone in Washington reading this...DO NOT LET THIS HAPPEN. Heck, I don't even work for a railroad and I can see this is just wrong.
This is Railroad management that have never actually done the job of conductor for an extended period of time and will never fully understand role with actual experience of schedule, conditions and responsibilities. They are only making a guess the expediter role will make things better. Let them fail as they have done with all their other decisions that is destroying the industry and workforce!
Listening to railroad executives talk has to be listening to the biggest nutless wonders alive
Exactly, "we're analytic men! We know better! You're just a semi skilled laborer!!" Typical corporate America..... so far removed from the reality
I knew it won't going to work
The only.
Win they're gonna get is that the conductor doesn't have to walk?A mile which takes about fifteen minutes and then the conductor has to walk back was takes another fifteen minutes
I can tell you one thing....trains never break down in a location accessible to an "expiditer."
Hey its good exercise and its our job...if u have an access rd to the side of the road, the engineer needs help staying awake. CSX lineville sub, doesnt have such luxuries. Plus, what they dont mention is that they will not need as many co nductors saves them many.
Ask walmart employees what happens when they try to improve employee "quality of life"
If you have a 15k length train, how is the Engineer going to walk the train and back in an Emergency ? Class I Railroad Mgmt. is Greedy, Clueless & Dangerous. 🤪👎
This is essentially merging Carman and Conductor. might as well go
back to the caboose
Walk 2 miles or drive 2 miles, look for a path to the train. Then walk the train when you get there because the Engineer doesn't know where the problem is until you walk the train. Yea this plan doesn't work. Will cause huge delays.
Yea the FRA board members look REAL thrilled with this...🤣🤣
All we have to do is sit back and wait for another Lac Megantic type disaster. I'm putting my money in either Cajon or Donner Pass
One man crews ain't going happeneing class1 railroads might well forget the idea
We should go back to the 4 man crews two up front two in the middle or rear end of the train
1000%
Curious as to how often the truck driving conductors will have to be called out per day to fix something. Seems like it’s going to be a boring job if it doesnt happen a lot. Sitting in a shack watching tv all day. I used to do standby as a emt occasionally for cities and you go insane waiting for something to happen, just sit around watching tv and getting fatter. To me this seems like its going to take twice as long. By the time the person gets in the truck, hopes theres a access point or some kinda road and to get to the defect. Curious to see how screwed up this is going to be
The second he mentioned not having conductors on key trains SHOWS they don't care about the public's safety.. what a joke.
I like said before one man crews wouldn't going I'm glad it's on hold service them right for trying two men crews are here to stay
Just tell the truth you wanna save a dollar. And a whole lot of people will be furloughed.
Job protection by firing the vast majority of conductors and keeping a bare sliver to act as expeditors. Yea they won't be furloughed, they'll be fired or "laid off". I don't know how this guy isn't choking on the utter shit that is coming out of his mouth.
Whenever we had an air hose pop somewhere on the rear 40 cars across a river and valley we had to call MoW to inspect the rear half since there wasnt a walkway on the bridge. we wasted more time waiting on them to come up and find us in the mountain than it would have for me to walk the entire train back and forth, if the walkway was there.
Rediculous. They need to mandate 2 man crews.
Anhydrous Ammonia has entered the chat and would like it’s breath taking awesomeness to be shared with the community. After all the conductor isn’t there to do it. This man is brilliant beyond words. Let’s do that ASAP. This coming from a non railroader unless you count volunteering at a museum short line railroad. Maybe vision is just shortsighted a bit.
THATS INSANE. need at least 2 .
Can’t wait until they go to 1 pilot in air travel. It’s always been about $$$$ and safety 2nd. In my opinion the rail industry is no different. I’m old enough to had lived through the Penn Central disaster. Watched a few videos about how CN and CP has cut the inspection times on trains to an unreasonable amount of time. It’s surprising to me there aren’t more rail disasters. I’m sure it’s the same everywhere in the US.
Lol so many engineers will quit!
Yeah but what if you want to be a conductor to get valuable on the job experience as a step up to engineer? If I have learned anything in my 45 years on this earth, it's that there are some things you learn in a classroom, and others you learn doing the job with an experienced skilled veteran of the craft. We need to get back to apprenticeship in this country. As it is, our young people are just going broke paying for college where they learn nothing and get brainwashed. These suits are clowns.
Yeah, I hired on to be on a train not in a pickup. Plus, good luck keeping a lot of these ENs awake now. I had to yell at them to get them to reset the alerter many times.
Let's not play this game, focus on stopping one man crews!
We've all been caught short rested, don't give the RR's more fuel. They get enough from the on board cameras.
When the infighting starts, we all lose and give them what they want!
@@shawnkelsea1763 my comment wasn't meant to be derogatory so I'm sorry you took it that way. I mean if you're an EN I'm sure you can vouch that having another guy on the head end is a good thing. You can help each other stay awake for one thing. Plus you don't have the luxury of getting out of the seat and pacing around the cab like I did if I was tired. Also it lets you focus on running and not have to fool with the radio or calling signals. I don't have anything against the ENs if thats what you're assuming. Hell, I probably learned just as much from them as I did the COs. It was even them that showed me how to tie up and do other things in mainframe. It's about the safety aspect of having 2 men in the cab.
Don, I didn't take it that way but some might and a war of words could start.
The RR's love it when there's in fighting between the unions and the crafts. That's when they get their worst work done!
I would never want to see conductors in a truck! That's wrong on so many levels and yes, they're needed in the cab to help ease the load.
I think there's an FRA rule about bathroom breaks and having the train stopped. I'll have to look it up, basically the train can't move until the member of the crew returns to their seat.
Conductors dissappear, going to be a bunch of stopped trains for bathroom breaks alone!😉
I’m guessing a lot of them might quit. It’s completely changing their job around. We had a guy at our shop who was a great employee who worked the service truck, once they started the layoffs he got bumped to a hostler and ended up quitting a few weeks later as its not what he signed on for so i can imagine half the fun of a conductor is riding the engine, seeing the world, blah blah blah. I’m sure some will stay for the paycheck but if a job ain’t fun some will leave
I like my occasional naps 😁
Your trucks breaks down, how long does that take now?
end of RAILROADING
1300 hired up north and another 1300 coming next year. Maybe just maybe it’s the company that is the issue with people not applying
It’s all cost cutting, it’s not about safety, morale or common sense. This is all about cutting costs so all these current executives of all these railroads can get their massive stock options and performance based bonuses before they retire.
Heres a solution. Run shorter trains.
I love how they don't stay Safety First they say efficiency over safety so you know what they're about
All railroad infrastructure needs to be publicly owned so that competition can exist in the industry. Bill Ackman and Keith Creel belong in prison.
it was tryed in 1918 it failed i see you failed history how young are you
Then just hire expediters and keep the conductor up there , no brainer fricking stupidity
Glad I left the UP, dont miss them one bit.
He said no one will be furloughed ha yeah right what a bunch of bs
If you work for UP, just sabotage the program by taking your sweet time every time you get called out for one of these and tell the dispatcher you can't reach the tracks because there's no road to get there. The program will be scrapped after about a week of holding up their profits
What happened to safety first.. the only true statement in the lot!!
They are moving the role of Conductor into a Field Maintenance role, and then telling the Engineers that they'll need to operate on their own.. Then argues that it's "for quality of life" for conductors. That really wasn't the point being made by the Unions if I recall. They don't want you to change their job, they want you to be able to schedule ( within reason ) so they can plan their life around it. That's not even the bigger issue, the issue is you've unintentionally created a dangerous work environment by reducing the crew size of a train. If it has worked so well for the past 150 years, then why change a system that works? We all know the rail networks infrastructure can't handle autonomy, so why try? Bad choices. Tsk tsk.
I was kinda picking up by the speaker saying they are doing this for quality of life that basically he was saying is F U you guys did this to your self. You want quality of life this is what you get. I dont really see this being any safer or quicker in any way. Curious to how this all plays out
Nothing going to conductor still be in the cab
Just use a caboose
How many tens of thousands of dollars are you making on every train load of goods you haul....but yet your worried about a few hundred bucks for labor.......instead of worrying about your bottom line and stock holders ...why don't you worry about employees and maintenance before you don't have a railroad to run anymore
All I hear is "listen to me tell you how much money I can put in my pockets by putting THOUSANDS of people on the street, we'll just ignore potentially endangering millions of homes because im too ignorant to see the real world, so lets again look at the money I will have to spend on my corporate paid sick days off"
Maybe these “ suits” should work as an expeditor for a year before they implement this stupid idea! They give this lame excuse about safety, they obviously are not concerned about the safety of the non railroad public. Pure corporate greed.
Put these guys behind the table out on the road for a month!!
lol i guess they didnt ask a MOW crew or dogcatcher if you can just drive right out to a main
Roll out: efficiency and safety. So much for Safety First. The Conductor can't walk the terrain along his train. But, the Expediter can drive a truck to it? The truth of this one man crews is the bottom line. They want EFFICIENCY Before SAFETY. He said it himself. Employees are a bad debt to Railroads. Sounds like they will settle if they can get one man crews. Notice how The first is baiting people with better working conditions. Will the remaining Engineers or "Pilots" have better working conditions while they are up in the loco alone for 12 hours? Since the time I started in 1968. Train crews shrank from 5 men down to 2 men, we lost Cabooses to Rear end devices. That could do everything except watch the train. We lost customers so the RR could get trains over the road. Divisional work became interdivisional work. Class one railroads will never be happy!
It's not going to happening fra won't let happeneing
You know what you can do with your expediter! Expedite this! Laughs!
The expeditor.... traditional conductor... these people are so out of touch
UP's vid is so fictionous! It's like if they are writing the skit for Denzel's new movie Unstoppable 2! Too many unforseens that will prevent a so-called truck conductor to get to a train in rural spots. Conductor on the train is the way to go, not a mobile conductor!
Trains never be drivingless be too dangerous and screws to much
This makes no sense
Here’s a link to the video by UP. th-cam.com/video/6hr15dtWwGU/w-d-xo.html
The concept of a expeditor is great and should happen, but it shouldn’t be a alternative to having two people in the cab. My way of thinking is that it could be a seniority thing, where a conductor could bid to be a expeditor. The arguments made in the video are valid, as it will save time, but there is some areas that are unreachable by car, where a conductor would be able to do what the expeditor would do. Another thing is the fact that their poor train layouts are causing the increase in incidents where train crews are stopped for an hour or two fixing the issues (i.e DPU Linkage issues, broken knuckles).
These carriers will never allow that to happen.
Yeah, it should just be an added job without changing crew size.
Okay so during it they said its a pilot program to test viability. They also mention trying to address work/life balance for conductors. They mentioned it would not result in Furloughs nor would it effect pay. They are experimenting and you dudes couldn't catch any of it because this job doesn't require more than a GED. I am seeing a pattern with railroad workers and wanting change but demanding absolute perfection before even getting to TRY. Kinda sad to see but thats the older generation for you.
So you are agreeing with UP?
@@chadrichardson9875 nope. I am saying it's a pilot. Let it play out before putting your energy into it.
Not really, Conductor does nothing.
In trucking, you have 1 driver.
2 on long trips.
Soon the Engineer will be gone it will be all GPS remote control
Company man right here
If you know nothing about the railroad keep your mouth quiet don’t compare the railroad to a truck y’all don’t have to deal with 16000 tons trains and 10000 feet train so don’t compare the railroad to a truck
@@sevingandy154 we live in the technocratic world now before you know it the machines will take over all aspects of humanity looting you including me
@@sevingandy154 when you send your kids to college to go get a business degree all they learned is how to destroy humanity to keep the money in the big corporate
Sounds reasonable to me.