PLAY TO WIN VS KEN BAUMANN - MALCOLM|TANA - KINNAN - KRARK|THRASIOS - MAGDA - cEDH GAMEPLAY
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ก.ค. 2022
- This week we're back for game 2 with Ken Baumann of Stacked EDH to play some cEDH!
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MY BROTHER IN CHRIST THANK YOU FOR HAVING ALL THE CAMERAS THE RIGHT WAY
Someone finally said it
Next week please have them facing the right direction but mirror the entire video for Kyle's sake
Glad you appreciate it
Lmfao Im glad you like PlayToWin and have similar Cameron Camera Conniptions
Cameron continues to be the greatest part of these videos.
"All that Cyclonic Rift does is reset Tangle Wire!" -Cam, with 0 permanents on board
love 8:45 "Tap down everything to tanglewire, draw, bemoan my horrible life, pass to cameron"
Lol
Ken talking his way out of a Tangle Wire and into a Blood Moon and almost winning that turn was *chef's kiss*, also because I would argue that it was not an incorrect choice, to play the BM XD
I'm surprised no one else tried to politic back. Ken trying to do that was an easy read of the dual caster combo especially since he tutored for the twin flame.
The blood moon wouldn't have stopped Malcolm from progressing much anyway as there was a treasure + petal on the board plus glint horn himself is red.
The tangle wire would have disabled Malcolm more funnily enough.
Cam just made me laugh so hard! " I spent all my money on this Wanderering Archaic, turns out it Fucking sucks" 😂😂😂
“Mouth” is the most powerful counterspell in the format! I’ve lost a ton of games to a well timed “Mouth”😂
Loved the jazz chord progression joke. Always nice to notice other musicians in the mtg community!
You guys are straight up the biggest inspiration I've ever had to learn more about CEDH. And MAGDA?! I've been wanting to build around her so bad and seeing your deck pop off has my brain going sicko mode bro. Cannot wait! I'm slowly but surely building my collection of cedh goodie cards!
Love seeing the classic that is bogardan hellkite becoming a thing. I watched the 06 world championship game many times when he was the key factor with my favorite card Dragonstorm.
Crazy how Magda wasn't as known about until the massive cEDH tournament where the person piloting it won, at least I saw it in almost no videos
Couldn't you use the deflecting swat to change the clock target to dylan's mana crypt, stopping the loop?
Without knowing Cameron's hand, it is impossible to be 100% sure, but that Deflecting Swat play seems like it could have worked. Though if Cameron had tapped Magda to the Tangle Wire and not one of the artifacts, that would have made it so even the Deflecting Swat couldn't stop the loop.
Hmmm
Was about to comment with the same thing. deflecting swat on the first clock trigger targetting metallic mimic would have stopped the combo.
First and foremost: yes the swat could have redirected one untap somewhere. Pointing it at one of Cam's artifacts would just let him 1/2 go again. So any other artifact would have been the play.
However cam could have simply tapped Magda + Land to tanglewire to play around swat.
There's a jump cut from the point where cam casts Mimic to when he activates Clock where suddenly a few things have inexplicably changed. Before the cut swat would not have done anything as Cam could just reactivate. After the cut it wouldn't either until Cam comes in to explain the treasure should have been tapped. If that were true then swat would have stopped it. However I'm not seeing a way that treasure should have been tapped unless Cam took another action we're not seeing. Since Cam jumped in to explain he was trying a few lines and messed up his board a bit I think it may be safe to assume he didn't mess it up as badly or in the way he think he did.
Conclusion I think to determine whether or not the swat would have worked we need to look at Cams board before the jump cut. And it definitely wouldn't have done anything there.
Fellow Cameron here. Magda has been one of my favorite decks for a couple years now. She just keeps getting new toys. 👍 But yeah Dylan couldn't have stopped it with Deflecting Swat. Went through all the different scenarios in my head lol. Cameron would still be able to make a treasure off Mimic and be able to make another with Magda so it doesn't really matter how Cameron tapped his artifacts. And it doesn't matter if the swat targeted another opponent's artifact.
in response to the first treasure trigger, swat to dylan's crypt? in order to continue loops after (or in response to) interaction, the magda player needs 3 additional untapped artifacts, 2 to untap dwarf artifact, 1 to continue the loop. at 9:29 , you can swat and cam would only have 2 artifacts, which would kill the loop
the reason sagas trigger after draw step is so that some of them (such as The First Eruption and Arni Slays the Troll) can add mana that isnt immediately lost in the upkeep
the real reason is that Wotc was trying to simplify certain sets a while ago and upkeep is too hard for most beginners to remember.
@@smack80 untap, upkeep, draw. I repeat that every turn I play since i've started mtg. The upkeep step is important as hell.
@@albinogoomba2780 ok
I'd like to cast Mouth for zero mana
Is a good spell
JUDGE! Mouth is a 2G spell that creates a hippo.
Mouth is a state based action, you don’t need to cast it. It just is.
Magda is awesome! Wish Cam won with the convoluted Memory Jar line :D
Love it! Great game and always fun to see Ken on the show!!
Love to see it, great job Cam!
Love seeing a deck like Magda get a showing like this! Fantastic video, stax are brutal and beautiful!
My friend was talking about putting together a Magda o'clock deck, now I know what to lookout for. Love the videos, keep 'em coming!
Goddamn that Magda deck rebuilds so FAST. Well done Cam!
Also Cloudstone Curio specifies nonartifact permanents so you can't use it to bounce the Academy Manufactor. It doesn't impact the line to win but worth pointing out since I've been burnt by that before mid-game.
Please keep the amazing content coming!
Hi! Just a random finnish guy who is super obsessed playing Magda because of Cam. Its 4am and there still is no new Magda video conserning many upgrades from Outlaws of Thunder Junction. Even about the new MAGDA. Iam getting bit worried.. Thanks for everything guys, you are truly the best.
That was really enjoyable! Thanks again for a great video. You should consider making a "best enchantress in cEDH" video.
Oooo a video!
you guys rock, thanks for making this content.
Bro Cam... That is a dope deck... I've never seen it played like that granted I'm not in the cEDH group so... but man... If i were to play cEDH that'd be my deck, it tickles my Johnny tendancies! Don't take it apart!
Love this game! Magda was the first cEDH deck that interested me and I love watching Kens Krark games Ill put it together at some point
This is definitely my favorite cdh channel gonna go get some merch would love to play with these guys seems so fun and helpful but I can’t get that top tier but I’ll work on that after getting some decks honestly I just watch over and over 😂
As a PSA to everyone when the Active player has multiple triggered abilities hit the stack at the same time they choose how they go on the stack. This means Cam can stack the ETB of the Hellkite and the Cloudstone so its back in his hand before the 5 damage happens meaning it would just fizzle as it's target is no longer on board. Hopefully everyone sees this.
As I wrote in another comment: With Cloudstone Curio YOU CAN NOT target the creature that coused the trigger as it says "another permanent". So when Bogardan enters the battlefield it triggers itself's ETB and curio's. Those two have to go on the stack with the legal targets (ofc if you decide to trigger return anything with curio, and I guess in that situation it was Utwara to maintain the loop). And with both those triggers on the stack then Dylan had priority to cast deflecting swat and redirect bogardan's trigger to itself (and, I was wrong earlier, deflecting swat can redirect any amount of bogardan's targets of a single ability)
One issue with this is that they were shortcutting this interaction to speed it up. No one really wants to do this but it should have been done properly because if Cam stacked the triggers differently as a mistake, Dylan or anyone, can take advantage of that moment and use the deflecting swat to stop that interaction.
And, as the other commenter pointed out, b. hellkite can't bounce itself back to hand. Unless Cam had another flash creature, it wouldn't matter how the triggers are stacked, the hellkite dies to its own damage. Hopefully everyone sees this.
@@charlesmaillho367 he could use magda's ability to find the artifact changeling and use that to bounce the hellkite through curio
Once Magda has infinite treasures and can tutor, there is nothing you can do.
Anything you do, delays the inevitable and they just combo on-top of your interaction and kill you still
@@charlesmaillho367 While yes, the swat could redirect the damage, Cam had an ashnod's transmogorant in his deck. So if Dylan redirected the 5 damage, Cam could have just sac'd 5 more of his infinite treasures to get it and then put a +1/+1 counter on the dragon. As others have said, he could also have gotten the artifact changeling or maskwood nexus, then another artifact creature to do a similar effect.
Cam's laugh is so contagious, I love it 😂😂😂
The 2-5-1 reference was a banger!
I love these Magda decks mad hype!
Love to see me some Magda, one of my favorite near cedh decks that I've got.
ii-V-I let’s ho Cam! The jazz x commander crossover I’ve been waiting for!
That proxy was amazing! ;) Great game.
I love the Madga deck so much. Really want to put it together!
Love the ii - V - I callout, never expected music nerd shit in a cEDH video!
I was surprised you went for sol ring off urzas saga, I personally would have gotten universal automaton in that situation.
CAM I JUST WANTED TO MAKE MAGDA TODAY AND BRO U GOTTA DO DIS LAWL
Love seeing magda
Got that OG call of duty theme going at turn 2.
Ken being happy for the Arcane Signet is something I absolutely agree with. Playing is the fun part.
(No, it's not an anti stax comment)
Only thing I didn’t like was Ken talking Cam out of playing Tanglewire, it felt pretty skummy
To be fair Ken is scummy to begin with.
If cam was hitting everyone for 5 with the dragon couldn't you have deflecting swatted the trigger of 5 damage back on the dragon killing it and stopping the burn loop?
He can stack the ETB of the Hellkite and the Cloudstone so its back in his hand before the 5 damage happens meaning it would just fizzle as it's target is no longer on board. when the Active player has multiple triggered abilities hit the stack at the same time they choose how they go on the stack. Now if he could have copied the ability sure cuz it would resolve first.
Can could, and then cam could go get any of his 10 other combos
You can also divide the damage to do 4 to one target and 1 to another, then deflecting swat can't kill it (as you have to keep the same number of targets for the trigger)
Deflecting SWAT re-directing the damage trigger from hell kite to deal 5 damage to itself would have stopped the entire damage combo unless he specifically broke the damage up when it ETB'd
Great vid guys! How was Teir 1 con? Pick up and new tricks for cedh that hadn’t come across the pond yet?
Loved the video, really fun to watch. Tho can someone explain to me why Cameron was able to go off the turn he created all the treasures because don't you need need to tap them in order to sacrifice them for mana. The combo leaves all the treasures tapped.
Can you guys make the skull playmat art into sleeves! I would love to sleeve my cube with them. The art is so metal.
Me every time I see the flag behind Cameron: “JESUS PIECEEEEEEE”
That being said I love seeing games with Krark and Magda and I think this pod was very balanced playstyle wise!
Another week and we're back at it again!
Great game
Deflecting Swat on the first Clock of Omens activation ends the combo here unless Cam has another artifact in hand.
Nice outfit tyler! (Knowing him, he is dressed to kill lol)
Always
I’ve been wondering when we’d see magda. It was one of my favorites for a while until my group figured out magda was a kill on sight commander 😂
Did the magna thing and put the deck in the shredder 😂🙌
Love my Magda deck. My first cedh viable deck lol
What day next week for the merch? I'd to get them before they sell out again and I'm sure they'll go quick.
I want to see you guys playing commander legends draft
Can we take a moment to appreciate the amount of GAS everybody had this game?
Can you make a video with a Yedora Deck?
maybe you forgot mana crypt trigger because your mana crypt looked like a toothpaste flavor icecream?
I like seeing a mono red that isn’t goddo
What the hell is with that massive box of dragon shield sleeves behind Cam??
Will the coin be coming back in stock?
10:16: does it matter that Cam shouldn't be able to bounce back Academy Manufacturer with Cloudstone Curio? Cloudstone curio days "nonaritfact". Would that have effected the outcome?
Krark, the Thumbless
I don't know if this is good or if it's already in the deck. But Maskwood Nexus seems really good with Magda
Couldn't be deflecting swat used to redirect Bogardan Hellkite ping into itself, so the loop would be over? (if there was only one target to get hit by all 5dmg of course)
He can stack the ETB of the Hellkite and the Cloudstone so its back in his hand before the 5 damage happens meaning it would just fizzle as it's target is no longer on board. when the Active player has multiple triggered abilities hit the stack at the same time they choose how they go on the stack. Now if he could have copied the ability sure cuz it would resolve first.
@@DrkNinja_ what??? when Bogardan enters the battlefield it triggers itself's ETB and curio's. Those two have to go on the stack with the legal targets (ofc if you decide to trigger return anything with curio, and I guess in that situation it was Utwara to maintain the loop). And with both those triggers on the stack then Dylan had priority to cast deflecting swat and redirect bogardan's trigger to itself (and, I was wrong earlier, deflecting swat can redirect any amount of bogardan's targets of a single ability)
I run a Magda deck without any dragons. It’s faster in the early game. It wins on turn four every time without interaction. And the only piece worth stopping is Magda because of the added redundancy. I usually snipe the first game I have at a table, and then break even after thanks to the 2&3 cost stax pieces. Largest mana cost card I have in the deck is the clock of omens. If I start with it in hand I just mulligan. The trick is running all the one and two cost dwarves. You end up producing 5 treasure by turn 4 most times. It wins on turn 2-3 anytime I hit dockside. I’ve had a lot of people interact with Magda as I’m fetching clock, but then I just switch to like winter orb or tangle wire.
Not that it particularly matters, but after academy manufacturer hits the table you actually get infinite mana, infinite life gain, and infinite card draw. It’s just the infinities for card draw and life gain are technically smaller infinities. Because you now only have to tap one each time you do the loop. So you can switch between making tapped clue tokens and tapped food tokens to get enough untapped versions of either. Meanwhile every loop you get an untapped treasure. I usually just make infinite mana and then fetch one of my redundant win cons though.
I would like to see oloro cedh once again
Is the video source 1080p? Or could you upload in 1440p? Thanks!
magda dragons so funnnnnn
Cam you should play krenko staxs next 🤣😎
I’m surprised to see people playing any dragons at all in cedh Magda decks. After making infinite mana with academy, the safest route seems to be pyrite spellbomb/elixir bc you’re not opening yourself up to counter magic. You can combo at instant speed without casting another spell. Kind of a toss up on the tangle vs blood moon decision. All in all, good Magda showing.
11:18 LMFAO
Tiamat runs like 5 dragons lol. Totes a dragon tribal deck.
Couldn't you have deflecting swatted the untapped trigger so that he couldn't win on his turn?
Ok but who's the jazz musician in the group? 😅
I don't have Tangle Wire in my Magda I like it
Magda is the strongest mono colored commander.. by far. Especially with a good pilot.
you cund use the defecting swat to kiled the dargon and stop the loop
Couldn’t he have changed the target to the dragon killing it ending the loop?
Why did urza saga die when blood moon was played
It loses its chapter abilities once it becomes a mountain, and since it’s a saga it gets sacrificed when that happens
So I’ve been wondering this for a while, but is Tyler like your guys’ editor or just a friend you play with on the channel?
He is a friend that plays on the channel and also does other things to help out! Dylan is the editor
I just wanna build magda so I can smash people with dragons
Nice haircut dylan (I think)
Thanks!!
Dylan and Cam on Game Knights when?
Magda.
Dylan haircut arc??
stacks and control are so "fun". I played 2 games of commander yesterday, it lasted 5-6 hours in total. game 1 was vs Tameshi, Reality Architect, all my stuff got bounced over and over and the other was vs Commander Liara Portyr (Boros stacks), where everything was just staxed to oblivion, noone could attack with anything bigger than 1, because of.. what's that artifact called?`Ensnaring bridge. So I was playing Raggadragga, meaning everything I played was huge, I played a Helix pinnacle turn 1 and the Commander Liara player messed up so badly, that despite not playing the game at all, just ticking up my helix pinnacle very slowly, I almost won. He had something that made him not lose by drawing his whole deck, don't remember, but he was exiling and casting from our decks and then he exiled my kessig wolfrun and was able to kill me. if that didn't happen I would have won the game. But yeah, those 2 games took over 5 hours to play. in game 1 I made a fatal mistake. I had him at 7 infect, with my inkmoth nexus, and I forgot to attack 1 time, which would have killed him.
in conclusion, always kill the stacks player first :)
Why are you taking apart Magda?
Ah Ken, just let people play the game, don't sacrifice your character to win a card game
Na politics are part of the game. I'm just surprised that no one presented a counter argument to his politics.
Tangle Wire would have infact slowed down Malcolm more than blood moon which was the base of his argument. Which was an indication he was trying to go off. Kinda surprised no one caught that.
@@Joolenplus politics are part of the game yes - but if someone puts something on the stack it's on the stack. Don't try to make them take it back so you can win. He cast Tanglewire, not bemused about playing it. This is supposed to e cedh, take backsies isn't very competitive
@@TheBassoonist0101 oh that's what you meant. Yeah I agree I don't think it was cool for them to put something on the stack and then take it back.
Dylan do you still play Pokémon Go ?
Not often
Did you see my favorite video?
deflecting swat could have killed bogardan hellkite to stop the combo, since the combo is at sorcery speed
He can stack the ETB of the Hellkite and the Cloudstone so its back in his hand before the 5 damage happens meaning it would just fizzle as it's target is no longer on board. when the Active player has multiple triggered abilities hit the stack at the same time they choose how they go on the stack. Now if he could have copied the ability sure cuz it would resolve first.
But isn't the Bogardan/ Curio trigger bouncing the Utvara and then pinging. Then the Swat can hit the Bogardan. He can't return the Bogardan to his hand at instant speed because the Utvara doesn't have Flash.
And then all he needs to do to stop the Swat is tutor another dragon. When it's over it's over. Overthinking it all. Great game guys.
Krark clan lfg baby >:)
LMAO 11:23, wander archaice it F@$$ sucks!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Is it just me, or has Kinnan not made a strong appearance in a while? I run him and I seem to have a much better win rate?
This game was ROUGH for tyler
No more ishai jeska?
It's 2022 and blood moon is good against 4c money pile mana bases 😅