GAME 2 - WHO ARE THE BEST FOUR COLOR COMMANDERS IN cEDH - PLAY TO WIN GAMEPLAY

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  • This week we’re back with game 2, once again, asking the age old question, what’s the best four color deck in cEDH!
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  • @PlaytoWinMTG
    @PlaytoWinMTG  ปีที่แล้ว +293

    EVOKE IS AN ABILITY THAT WOULD GO AWAY IF THAT CREATURE LOST ALL ITS ABILITIES, even after the evoke cost was paid. aka endurance should not be sacrificed. I was wrong

    • @Ulim151
      @Ulim151 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Also no drawing with kraum at 11:55

    • @dancer6452
      @dancer6452 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Magic is DEFINITELY complicated lololol I think its great you can point out your mistakes directly though, respect

    • @dancer6452
      @dancer6452 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@Ulim151 kraum was a vehicle at that time so the draw is fine, due to the swift reconfiguration on it

    • @spoopydarling6180
      @spoopydarling6180 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s ok Dylan I think a lot of us would have thought you were correct at the moment, thanks for going the extra step and pointing out misplays though it’s very helpful. We all make misplays especially on spelltable 💕.

    • @stormtrooperjeepjk
      @stormtrooperjeepjk ปีที่แล้ว +1

      .pointing out the misplays help us all.be better players

  • @Jay15199
    @Jay15199 ปีที่แล้ว +126

    Giving a "like" for the responsible handling of fish. Well done!

  • @cristianprado8559
    @cristianprado8559 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    love how you guys respected the fish so much but then went nuts not paying for Rhystic / Sentinel hahaha
    great game

  • @official_uhu
    @official_uhu ปีที่แล้ว +26

    how can one youtube channel has such a great audio quality that never fails?! I'm so impressed by you guys 😄 much love from Austria!

  • @Player_not_found
    @Player_not_found ปีที่แล้ว +64

    You wouldn't sac an evoked creature with Dress Down in play; that sacrifice is not tied to the cast, it's a separate ability that says "When this permanent enters the battlefield, if its evoke cost was paid, its controller sacrifices it.” and with DD in play that ability doesn't exist.

    • @PlaytoWinMTG
      @PlaytoWinMTG  ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Thanks for catching that! Should have double checked

    • @ChildrenOfOwls
      @ChildrenOfOwls ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PlaytoWinMTG is the same true with Ragavan Dash?

    • @MtgArdeen
      @MtgArdeen ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ChildrenOfOwls if dress down is in play ragavan would lose the haste from the dash but would go back to hand at the end of turn because its a delayed trigger from the dash cost

  • @StackedEDH
    @StackedEDH ปีที่แล้ว +31

    This is how you treat Fish on the play. Very impressive!

  • @Neoicecreaman
    @Neoicecreaman ปีที่แล้ว +6

    3:28 "everything's a drum" you ain't slippin that past me lol.

    • @pe3der
      @pe3der ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Stoked someone noticed lol. We were all sayin it for a minute in another game from that session but I don't think the audio made the cut

  • @matthewamedio1786
    @matthewamedio1786 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Cameron - "This hand is full of farts!" I didn't think I could love him more.

  • @therealax6
    @therealax6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    That three-turn fish avoidance was just hilarious, although I do wonder why Dylan didn't play that Mana Crypt on turn 4. He had 4 lands and could've paid for the fish.

  • @Demon_of_Razgriz
    @Demon_of_Razgriz ปีที่แล้ว +13

    As stated by another comment, Evokes are ETB triggers so you can do some cheeky things with evoke costs. For example, phasing it out will prevent it from getting sacced. I think flicker effects can also work because it would be treated as a new instance of the card.

    • @PlaytoWinMTG
      @PlaytoWinMTG  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Good catch !

    • @therealax6
      @therealax6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep, flickering the permanent works just fine.

  • @carsonhauss8286
    @carsonhauss8286 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Cam could have cast Noxious Revival targeting Fierce Guardianship then activate Thrasios, drawing Fierce to counter the Dress Down instead of blind activating Thras again

  • @lanceh650
    @lanceh650 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    “this is hilarious. this is the bait tutor that is going to immediately be followed by vampiric tutor.”
    “shut the fuck up cameron.”
    i lost it lol

  • @AndrewWoodford
    @AndrewWoodford ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I’m going to donate to your Patreon after the responsible Mystic Remora plays. Thank you!

  • @marshalellison237
    @marshalellison237 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Woah woah woah. Was that an Aunty Donna's reference in response to the spring leaf drum?!? A man of culture I see

  • @simonskews-poole1364
    @simonskews-poole1364 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Still making my way through, but at 3:35 Dylan doesn't actually pay any blue mana to cast Kraum! The Underground Sea doesn't get used in the rest of the turn cycle, but it allowed Dylan to hold up a blue and threaten interaction

  • @kortes8914
    @kortes8914 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm actually impressed that ya'll let the fish starve.
    That's how the first few rounds *should look* when players around the table are responsible. There is no need to rush a boardstate if no one is rushing a boardstate.

  • @Kallastin
    @Kallastin ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Boys are back with the "meat grinder" decks. Love the content guys! Keep up the amazing work! Also, the podcast episodes recently have been *Chef's Kiss* perfect.

  • @brianknowles3980
    @brianknowles3980 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Shoutout to Tyler for the W! E Zone stays relevant!
    End credits name singing should just be a thing now. 💯

    • @stormtrooperjeepjk
      @stormtrooperjeepjk ปีที่แล้ว

      E zone has a promenant land slot in my cEDH deck....and several casual decks

  • @mimiklureaegis9906
    @mimiklureaegis9906 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    *Fish dies*
    “We did it!!”
    That was so wholesome, wtf?!?

  • @LPchief
    @LPchief ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Just love this kinda gameplay

  • @Omnicloud7strife
    @Omnicloud7strife ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I've never seen this table not feed the fish that much. Well done, everyone. Really interesting to see that level of political interaction. Love the content.

  • @grimbourne
    @grimbourne ปีที่แล้ว

    One of the best games I have seen on this channel... Ever! So much fun to watch. So very interactive. Great fun, thx guys!

  • @Nashvinn4394
    @Nashvinn4394 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Was it just me or did the audio quality drop for a bit in the middle?
    Just kidding! Awesome game as always my guys, 10/10 responsible fish plays 👌🏽

  • @kenkokuten4887
    @kenkokuten4887 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I am so proud. Seeing the entire table not play a single noncreature spell for 3 turns! Ensuring the most useless fish ever..I'm beyond proud.

    • @DiscardatRandom
      @DiscardatRandom ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Or the most useful fish if you look at it that way

  • @kevinsimmons5343
    @kevinsimmons5343 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Although spicy cEDH brews are fun to watch go off, this is what cEDH is really like and I love it! Great videos fellas!

  • @damiend.7392
    @damiend.7392 ปีที่แล้ว

    Y'all are so fun! My new favorite MTG channel!

  • @kstandish42
    @kstandish42 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Should just call this game the Tony Allen of pods, the absolute Grindfather of gameplay on the channel. What a game to watch, I think I’d have an aneurysm if I had to play through it so I applaud y’all for not only playing it but editing it for the channel 😂

  • @windiesel2826
    @windiesel2826 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Tyler's skill is on a whole other level 😆 definitely always stands out

  • @mitsosoftheelves
    @mitsosoftheelves ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic game & Cameron's realization that he could have tried for the win earlier was a funny twist, heh

  • @thomasnoonan2039
    @thomasnoonan2039 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love these 4c piles! I know you said you got greedy with the intuition, but if you hadn't cast it would it have changed anything? Seemed like the winner "had it" regardless.

  • @tylercraig5633
    @tylercraig5633 ปีที่แล้ว

    Probably one of the best games you guys have done so far! Great game guys!!

  • @frankdetank9126
    @frankdetank9126 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tyler rocks! Have you ever considered making a best enchantress deck in cEDH?

  • @MikeBelew
    @MikeBelew ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video! Tyler always put out so much regular pressure with so little

  • @Si13nc3X
    @Si13nc3X ปีที่แล้ว

    Great display of responsible fish play this episode, I'll be showing my playgroup this one haha. Always appreciate the music choices bois

  • @onunca2324
    @onunca2324 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of the best videos, not having ad nause resolve in the pod makes really interesting games to watch. keep up the non ad nause videos

  • @jamiekidd5471
    @jamiekidd5471 ปีที่แล้ว

    Swift reconfiguration counts for dockside but because of it Kraum is also an artifact so dockside makes an extra treasure (about 16:04 in)

  • @K_Pank1028
    @K_Pank1028 ปีที่แล้ว

    This game was so great to watch, thanks guy.

  • @mrgrowlmon
    @mrgrowlmon ปีที่แล้ว

    this sudden mic change got me scared af. great game, thanks yet again for the stuff you guys make!

  • @joskajiri
    @joskajiri ปีที่แล้ว

    very put together "begin" 👌

  • @scribey2541
    @scribey2541 ปีที่แล้ว

    older video to be leaving a comment on but felt obligated to like/comment for the fish responsibility, I typically don't bother but this deserves it

  • @ggangulo
    @ggangulo ปีที่แล้ว

    What a sick win!

  • @danielkrnansky6135
    @danielkrnansky6135 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fun fact, if Dylan would mystical, Nate would oppo and Dylan would cast vamp afterwards, he would do vamp tutor, oppo resolves, mystical resolves and he shuffles his library after his opponent finding whatever he wants with mystical.

    • @PlaytoWinMTG
      @PlaytoWinMTG  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yea but there’s like other stuff in my hand and other things going on besides only exactly those things right?

  • @willzang3000
    @willzang3000 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow what a game !!!

  • @razorskatermax35
    @razorskatermax35 ปีที่แล้ว

    you guys should try the slicer deck, love your videos!

  • @dwightpatch4441
    @dwightpatch4441 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was an awesome game

  • @MTG_Ronin
    @MTG_Ronin ปีที่แล้ว +1

    “This hand is full of farts” killed me

  • @westonyarber714
    @westonyarber714 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can I just say I absolutely love cam’s laugh

  • @SDTCG
    @SDTCG ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice Auntie Donna's House of Fun reference.

  • @kellyperry5009
    @kellyperry5009 ปีที่แล้ว

    The best part of Sunday ❤️‍🔥

  • @DaxVerus
    @DaxVerus ปีที่แล้ว

    I have recently been playing with savage summoming in thrasios tymna and while it seems like a dead card most times, the amount of times an uncounterable thoracle or even flashing in a phantasmal image on somsone else's thoracle hits to win under someone is much worth the slot in my 99. Not sure how you guys feel about it, curious what tyler thinks of savage summoning.
    Edit: ALSO! Tyler, you played a three color deck, I did not see a lick of red come from that deck of yours :P Well done on the win, really showing off your table top politic skills this game

  • @jurassicjuror
    @jurassicjuror ปีที่แล้ว

    That was glorious 😂😂😂

  • @boxerbiker4672
    @boxerbiker4672 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    THIS is WHY we DO NOT FEED THE FISH. Nate was effectively *out of the game* after paying *6 mana* for literally no benefit. The other players still managed to establish their board (with creatures), and set Nate back so badly. Always pay your taxes people.

  • @jtvanilla1776
    @jtvanilla1776 ปีที่แล้ว

    Petition: a compilation of the top wildest stack wars in your channel

  • @john_wick272
    @john_wick272 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Animating sphinx over vilis probably would have won nate the game imo given that thrasios draws and the rhystic on field... Nonetheless awesome games!

  • @lukassaunders7420
    @lukassaunders7420 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Did I catch an Aunty Donna reference in there?

    • @pe3der
      @pe3der ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep!

  • @rdumalaog
    @rdumalaog ปีที่แล้ว +1

    10/10 fish management

  • @holdenbrooks8537
    @holdenbrooks8537 ปีที่แล้ว

    As someone who has only ever just played edh, cedh is truly on another level

  • @Googleflax
    @Googleflax ปีที่แล้ว +1

    omg guys did anyone else notice the change in audio quality part way through? That was super weird; I feel like we should all talk about that.

  • @iansamuel1811
    @iansamuel1811 ปีที่แล้ว

    would have been funny if someone had removal for the lab man after Tyler put the draw on the stack lol

  • @park9199
    @park9199 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You nomiNATE? How did I miss that the first time 😂😂 damnit cam

  • @AlecPaulssluaPcelA
    @AlecPaulssluaPcelA ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cam and his FLyndhorn Elves tho

  • @zachhannah8927
    @zachhannah8927 ปีที่แล้ว

    This game was sick.

  • @jamallynch1218
    @jamallynch1218 ปีที่แล้ว

    I know 4 to 5 color command(s) are the meta in cEDH but I’m curious to know cam Dylan and Tylers opinion on single color commanders and do you think the OG Azami Lady of scrolls have a chance in this meta asking because I just build my first high power deck and she’s the way I went although I’m just collecting all the colors for blue farm as I watch and get better because of you guys thanks. Any and everyone please answer if you can 😂

  • @zachrichins2313
    @zachrichins2313 ปีที่แล้ว

    That “Shut the F up Cameron” was very personal 😂.

  • @rafael3646
    @rafael3646 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sending this video to everyone as a tutorial for how to play into fish

  • @mackenner-aspery2715
    @mackenner-aspery2715 ปีที่แล้ว

    DUDE WATCHING THIS WHEN THE AUDIO DIED ALONE IN MY APARTMENT I THOUGHT SOMEONE WAS HERE HOLY

  • @thedoctor1471
    @thedoctor1471 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was so ready for Cam to have Swift Recon in his hand at the start and to see him play it as soon as the fish died like "OK SO BOOM INFINITE MANA INTO THRASIOS INTO EMERGENCE ZONE GG THX BYE"
    But no.

  • @DexterityYTC
    @DexterityYTC ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm sorry but I have to talk about the audio change. I'm watching this at midnight alone in my house on my TV and it scared the absolute shit out of me.

  • @SamuelKacerik
    @SamuelKacerik ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi guys. I have a question because I don't understand cEDH that much. Dylan played Final Fortune and his plan was to win next turn. He played Intuition. If there weren't any answers what was Dylan's plan? Cameron had Ranger Captain on the board that he would probably crack during Dylan's next upkeep.

    • @PlaytoWinMTG
      @PlaytoWinMTG  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just regular cast thoracle with very few cards in my library and several blue pips on bird

  • @arthurgolia7252
    @arthurgolia7252 ปีที่แล้ว

    At 10:58 I wonder why didn’t Cam when he got the Revival off of Thrasios why didn’t he pay two life and put that Fierce Guardianship back on top and then draw the Fierce Guardianship to counter the Dress down?

  • @ellissanders2382
    @ellissanders2382 ปีที่แล้ว

    Eldritch sacrificing bruse lets Cam get Emiel for the win there I think. At least gives him more options while he’s searching. Another great vid.

  • @oscarperezcame
    @oscarperezcame ปีที่แล้ว

    Best patreon aong so far hahaha

  • @PaulG0000
    @PaulG0000 ปีที่แล้ว

    🔥🔥🔥

  • @GaryAsphodel
    @GaryAsphodel ปีที่แล้ว

    This game makes me so sad that the cedh scene in my area is dead😢

  • @om3n430
    @om3n430 ปีที่แล้ว

    That time walk/fish!!

    • @TheRensvind
      @TheRensvind ปีที่แล้ว

      It was only a time walk for the owner of Fish. The other 3 players were able to somewhat advance their boardstate while Nate put 100% of his mana into his fish for 0 cards. Was a great play for the board over all, usually you should only feed the fish if you think YOU can get gain more advantage from it than the others.

  • @knightofthesun2595
    @knightofthesun2595 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m so glad that their microphone didn’t die in the middle. That would be so cringe

  • @IamArroyo
    @IamArroyo ปีที่แล้ว

    Holy shit the mic change at 13:30 scared me

  • @Adrian-dt2oz
    @Adrian-dt2oz ปีที่แล้ว

    11:26 Doesnt die as when ETBs it has no abilities due to DD.

  • @joshuahabiger691
    @joshuahabiger691 ปีที่แล้ว

    BABE WAKE UP NEW PLAY TO WIN VIDEO

  • @TripsAhoy
    @TripsAhoy ปีที่แล้ว

    Think you guys may have had a microphone issue there for a minute! ;) Lol

  • @ulyssessanchez2328
    @ulyssessanchez2328 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hear me out, color fixing takes effort and time so having 4 decks getting stable feels like they all do the same until that explosive turn.
    Being a Dihada main the struggle of having a smoother mana base vs "good stuff" is always a struggle
    It would be cool to have the Decks being 2 Colors vs 4 Color
    Can a 4 color deck keep up with faster and easier style decks....like honestly fuck Simic 😅 having to keep up with Nadu/Kinnen is the breaking point of a good "deck" to me
    Idk best 2 colors vs 3 colors and so on can be interesting

  • @ChrisLovesComics
    @ChrisLovesComics ปีที่แล้ว

    3 oracle decks...how fun

  • @oldmanhumphrey4938
    @oldmanhumphrey4938 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Will my boy Yidris ever get any love? 😭

  • @smack80
    @smack80 ปีที่แล้ว

    winning on turn 9 though. I feel this is an example of why you should just play a deck with aggressive attackers and interaction. My Adeline deck doesnt need 9 turns to kill everyone

    • @stormtrooperjeepjk
      @stormtrooperjeepjk ปีที่แล้ว

      My food chain can hit on turn 4 pretty easily..... It can swiftly pivot from a life drain....to non deterministic win with a thorical/tp combo win

  • @ecclesiaandune687
    @ecclesiaandune687 ปีที่แล้ว

    idk where else to ask this sorry, i built the bloodpod deck from the video on this channel to start up with cedh and played a few games but the impression i got from a few people is that the deck is bad/too slow - is it very outdated now?

    • @LinksCow1
      @LinksCow1 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s still good, it’s just that cEDH is pretty midrange-y atm. It’s a deck you bring out when your playgroup is mainly on turbo decks.

    • @ecclesiaandune687
      @ecclesiaandune687 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LinksCow1 thank you!

    • @PlaytoWinMTG
      @PlaytoWinMTG  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It is still VERY powerful in the right pilots hands, but it certainly has fallen out of favor recently due to winota doing a similar thing and doing it arguably better. Or at least has a higher ceiling for explosively

    • @ecclesiaandune687
      @ecclesiaandune687 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PlaytoWinMTG thanks! I was sneakily considering winota tbh, i tend not to like super fast turbo decks atm i think its cos im not experienced enough with the format to know when i can go for it yet

  • @andrewpalella9923
    @andrewpalella9923 ปีที่แล้ว

    Poor Nate. He kept that hand on the power of remora got nothing out of it

  • @aidanmallberg3197
    @aidanmallberg3197 ปีที่แล้ว

    Im not sure if this has been said, but couldn’t Tyler have won at 6 minutes by casting thoracle, then responding with divining witch naming something not in his deck?

  • @GaryAsphodel
    @GaryAsphodel ปีที่แล้ว

    Wowww not feeding the fish! 2023 is a new year for ptw ❤❤❤

  • @nicolasahumadaherrera3899
    @nicolasahumadaherrera3899 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good iPhone and good play jajajajaja

  • @mandielyn0416
    @mandielyn0416 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am thinking about starting a casual edh TH-cam channel called “Play to Durdle”.

  • @Mooncake92
    @Mooncake92 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really enjoy the channel but would like to see more general gameplay rather than specific four colour only, just my personal feedback! Still quality content.

    • @Mooncake92
      @Mooncake92 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or do you have another channel where i can see just games with you and friends/patreons?

    • @PlaytoWinMTG
      @PlaytoWinMTG  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ya I mean just watch all of our other gameplay which is mostly that hahah

    • @Mooncake92
      @Mooncake92 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PlaytoWinMTG Ohhh i just found your playlists, thankyou! Sorry im new to youtube haha. Life complete.

  • @Lumautis
    @Lumautis ปีที่แล้ว

    So about those microphones 😜

  • @mychaelperez8921
    @mychaelperez8921 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is the most unorthodox CEDH or high power deck you have ever played against an opponent(s)? Please feel free to comment on my question.

  • @colinfowler3021
    @colinfowler3021 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ok Mystic Tutor into Vamp tutor still wrecks the Vamp. Like Mystic -> Oppo -Vamp put the card on top, then Mystic resolves and wrecks everything.

    • @PlaytoWinMTG
      @PlaytoWinMTG  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes you are correct technically but I have a ton of draw engines in play and a hand full of spells so there are ways I can make it work

  • @RelicSeeker
    @RelicSeeker ปีที่แล้ว

    Shouldn't Nate have just cast the Oppo in response to the mystical tutor, since after the vampiric tutor found a card, mystic would resolve and shuffle the library anyways

    • @PlaytoWinMTG
      @PlaytoWinMTG  ปีที่แล้ว

      I have interaction and draw engines in play that would trigger if my opponents responded. It’s not ideal, but there are ways to work around it

  • @orinmatthew
    @orinmatthew ปีที่แล้ว

    When dress down was on field, wouldn't kraums ability not work?

    • @PlaytoWinMTG
      @PlaytoWinMTG  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Kraum was turned into a vehicle !

    • @orinmatthew
      @orinmatthew ปีที่แล้ว

      @PlaytoWinMTG
      Ooooooh yeah, ok, gotcha. Completely disregarded that fact. Lol

  • @deluezian_helix
    @deluezian_helix ปีที่แล้ว

    Mandatory comment to boost engagement score.

  • @mtgcarloracho
    @mtgcarloracho ปีที่แล้ว +1

    blood pod

  • @joshmc5882
    @joshmc5882 ปีที่แล้ว

    No blood pod? I feel attacked.

  • @issacmyers7636
    @issacmyers7636 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    How do we join the discord?

    • @PlaytoWinMTG
      @PlaytoWinMTG  8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      We give the link out at the $1 level on Patreon!