Roof safety - roofers harness use tips
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- Don't get tangled up with your roof safety harness. How to wear a roof harness and attach it to a fall prevention anchor. How to walk on a roof with a roof harness.
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I know a few roofers and arborists that might not agree with your hooking technique on the front but with the little bit of rock climbing and repelling experience I like the front technique for the same reasons as you. I actually tie off my line to my truck or a tree, or both instead of anchoring directly to the roof.
I never understood the logic of hooking up in the back. I used my rock climbing harness with an ascender and descender. Actually falling off the roof becomes physically impossible because there's never any significant slack in the line. It's just enough to allow me to move around in that area then adjust as needed. It also allows you to hold your position on steep slopes without using your hands.
Well done man. Excellent common sense approach to “fall protection” which is actually fall prevention. Lots of OSHA crap doesn’t make sense because once you’ve slipped off the edge and it arrests your fall, you’re still stuck hanging off the building waiting to die once the harness cuts the blood flow off in your legs. Keeping the line taught like in rock climbing or an Arborist application is how to stay ON THE ROOF!
Thanks for sharing.
You don’t have to stay stuck after a fall. I plan to have a descender line in case I fall off of my roof, and a knife to cut the straps if I need to. Lowering myself by hand from cut straps or even just dropping from that “halfway” point is still better than a full fall, or a poorly attached fall.
Great demo. I'm a wimp so I bought a harness for working on my shed roof. I think I can do it now.
You are not a wimp for being safe!
@@itsame1277 Agreed. Hundreds of people fall off roofs every year and not one of them thought today's the day.
Not a wimp, just not a dickhead. I've been to multi people who've broken their back as a result.
I dislocated two fingers falling about the height of a shed roof. The injury wasn’t as painful as I expected, but the treatment hurt like a MF - once for each finger. They don’t close all the way or open completely, but they mostly work ok.
Thank you so much, this is exactly what I was looking for. I need to paint the pop up (lack of a better term) sections of the house above the steep tin roof and this looks to be the best way to do it
The shock absorbing lanyard is a CRITICAL part of the safety equipment.
On a low building you may hit the ground before the lanyard catches you.
@@user-bj4lp3fr1owith some planning, you can measure the site and have the shock absorber deploy. It would be tough to get good fall protection below 6 feet though.
I am new to this, and agree the front or side is more convenient. However…
I watched something from OSHA that pointed out the reason for attachment in the back. In a fall with back attachment your joints will be jerked forward, which is what they’re evolved to do (except for knees). In a fall with front attachment, your torso with be bent backwards, as will your neck, legs (except knees), and arms - and leave you suspended that way. After being bent backwards I don’t think I’d have much chance of self recovery as I’m not all that flexible even forwards.
They didn’t discuss single side attachment, but I would expect that to torque your body halfway around, twisting your torso in alignment with the safety rope, followed eventually by your limbs and head at some point. This would leave you hanging sideways, limbs and head partially downward and not in great shape for self-recovery.
With upper back attachment your arms move naturally forward, as do your legs (except knees), your back bends forward easily, and your head bends forward naturally. You end up reasonably upright and likely to be able to use a descender for self-rescue before getting suspension trauma from circulation loss hanging in a harness.
The shock absorber stops your fall slower than a restraint strap will - just like seat belts and air bags stop your body more slowly than hitting the windshield of your car. The shock absorber is DESIGNED to fail, dissipating energy by snapping stitches instead of your body doing the same by snapping tendons, muscle, and cartilage.
You do you, but it might be worth your while to give it some thought. I’ve collected enough minor injuries over the years that I don’t need any more.
I wish you would show more of how to attach anchor to the roof and tie to anchor. Most of these videos show how to use the harness but don't ever go into detail on what to attach the harness to.
Yes good point. I have the same issue but I'm going to take the rope right over the roof and down to a wooden retaining wall where I will secure a heavy galvanised bolt with an eye to take the rope and carabiner hook.
There are temporary or permanent roof anchors that you drill into the roof. For examples of both, watch the video titled: "Werner complete roofing safety kit - Home Depot $99"
As for metal roofs, not sure. There are some comments below about using a truck or tree on the other side.
Agree with Zack. In a fall scenario you would be in all sorts of trouble. Always, always think worse case. Thats what keeps you safe longterm.
Thanks, but only a few seconds showing the harness 'anchor' pomit. What to anchor to with a cement tile roof? Thanks.
Hi mate, thanks for the videos, could you please show us where or how to hang the harness on roof? In tiles and metal. Thank you
Usually it comes with an anchor that you nail or screw it some where on the roof timber or suitable spot
@@AdelAbuAlaa I work mostly on metal roofs like the type in this video, all colors and no way to anchor without damaging it or getting the fasteners in the correct spot. Most of the time I have to anchor to something on the ground and that only works for one side of the roof.
@@akaredcrossbow
what about the other sides, how do you manage?
@@AdelAbuAlaa I have to have one on each side and always remember to hook up to the right one. It’s not the most safest or convenient way but it works if you remember to switch lines.
There has to be a better way! It’s hard to find specific color caulking to seal holes, or 3-6 months later the customer has some sort of leak. It’s frustrating taking the ridge cap off because most of them have been sealed underneath with caulking for some reason or another. It’s just frustrating and dangerous. Most of the time the lines are secured to a tree or a my work truck with the keys on my person at all times.
@@akaredcrossbow
As an ex painter i know your frustration and how you feel. please take care
Hi, thanks for the tip. Just a question, where do you tight up the rope/ string? is there any special part that you can put on steel roof and tight the rope?
Thank you for the tutorial nice work 🤝
Are you able to post a video showing how you set up the rope?
What about the holes in the roof from the anchoring point? What do you do with those?
You can use your roofing screws to plug the anchor holes
Thank you very much, Sir.
So far, nobody has clearly stated how this set up is secured to the roof. I agree with the one person who said that metal roof can't just be drilled into. Is there some sort of hooking that widely distributes weight? This way, when sharply tugged on, it wouldn't be against a single point; thus, not ripping off the cap?
Bailey sell a long metal bracket with multiple screw in points for metal roofs. They sell em at bunnings. Because jt has multiple holes you screw in to all of them and that distributes to weight.
As pointed out by many folk in the comments section, the point of securing the fall arrest lanyard is the most important feature. I have the same issue but I'm going to take the rope right over the roof and down to a wooden retaining wall where I will secure a heavy galvanised bolt with an eye to take the rope and carabiner hook.
These advices comes from wisdom.
good tips
THANKS
I agree with using the front clip... CONTROL and ease of use and seeing what 9shappening is everything, and you don't get the lanyard snaked around your leg (NZ lig)
What's the name of the device you slide on the rope?
What is the name. I’m trying to find it toooooo. I need the decide that slides through the rope
It’s called rope and grab in Australia, some also come with built in shock absorbers.
I noticed where a foam pad can be used on a metal roof to help with sliding, or is it fore something else?
It grips the roof better than shoes or pants.
What is the name of the adjustable metal clip that attaches the harness to the rope and slides up and down the rope? Did you say carbiner? We just call it a rope grab.
The word that you looking for is Canabiner.. I am just not sure if it's the part you talking about. 👍
@@nkosinathichris6900 I think he means the arrest part that slides up and down the rope and basically determines how far the rope that’s attached to roof will let you go. The carabiner is the part you use to attach the rope to your harness.
I just found out it's called a "rope grab" or"positioning device". Amazon sells them in the US: www.amazon.com/Malta-Dynamics-Vertical-Lifeline-Assembly/dp/B07GJQB1FJ
Carabiner, yeah
probably use both those loops with your carabiner on the front of the harness
Sorry mate, to where is the harness connected on the roof?
Good practice to tie off to structure, (maybe at least 35mm x 70mm truss/rafters) then for me personally once you have lad a few sheets install temp anchor with rope and grab set up and always keep in mind to not leave slack on your ropes, short fall distance is critical, Stay safe mate!
I agree with this 100%. the fall arrest is absolutely useless and impractical in this scenario. The rope is mobile and easy to adjust.
Essentially it's been used in an abseiling capacity, which is really what you need.
Use this system vs rear hooking. Abseiling style..Works fine. On lower roofs. On high roofs though run the fall arrest extra rear setup. Have used the gutter edge anchor t frame plus screw in pitch mount. One trick to climb first. Hit twine with tennis ball over roof to other side.With tennis racquet/ paddle bat.Anchor to fence/ ute etc.Can then abseil up roof on rope to install roof mount.Then reset rope.
It’s great fall protection until you fall.
That buckle mechanism seems odd I wouldn't trust it as much as a buckle that clicks to close.
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