The question is is Spotify going to tell the difference between an artist buying fake bot plays or some other artist doing it to sabotage another artist. It’s crazy. Some even think it’s genuine promotion
That part is problematic. We would advise artists to contact support for their distributor as soon as they suspect a bad playlist. We've had it happen to our own catalog as well, but it was a minuscule amount of plays compared to our overall plays, so Spotify would not have cared. It has to be a significant percentage of the overall plays for them to conclude that an artist is paying for bot plays intentionally
@@scottyjam2020 this is what I am talking about. What if you hire a legit person to share your songs and then they hire services to boost your song to make themselves look good. This happened with my fiend. It’s crazy.
Not to mention there are tons of people who own playlists that generate fake bot streams to songs that we artists get added to. Spotify needs to do a better job of MAKING SURE WHO exactly is botting the music instead of blaming it on the artist completely. I had this happen to me, and I’ve never paid for fake streams. We know stream farms = 0 pay
Pretty sure thats what happened to Benn Jordan. Got accused of botting, then they had to backtrack when they realise they had just punked a major international EDM act. The running theory with a lot of folk is him getting added without his consent to bott streams to juice the stats and steal listeners for bott streams.
When I do promo on instagram the thing that gets me mad is that the people it's "reaching" with THIER promo is bots. I get fake follows and fake views. So I feel like they are basically saying if we catch you using someone else's bots and not ours
Yea, we get that. But there are ways even within IG to ensure you are getting the highest quality traffic by having conversion campaigns. These platforms are trying to fight the bots just like a good promo company is too, but their solutions can sometimes be misguided.
Well it can be a shift to focus more on directing traffic to an artist's exclusive website, bypassing intermediaries but it also opens up new opportunities for direct connection and control over content and fan interactions.
It is the world up side down. The artist is held responsible for what listeners and others are doing on Spotify. If Spotify has issues with bots and they can identify them then why not block the bot instead of the artist?
Unfortunately, the current system can sometimes unfairly penalize artists. This is why it's crucial to stay informed about the policies of distribution platforms, and to advocate for more artist-friendly solutions.
Does this mean don’t use distributors, how do we prevent Spotify from removing our songs while still promoting it organically? Please answer I’m thinking of buying promo from you guys but I don’t want my music taken down, thank you 🙏🏾
I'm not saying not to use a distributor. Using a distributor is a crucial step in getting your music onto Spotify and other streaming platforms, as it ensures your tracks are delivered correctly and royalties are collected on your behalf. Work with well-known and reputable distributors that have a good track record and make sure you check their policies.
Not many have that when they first start out, but over time as a business grows, the marketing budget grows. If you don't have $500, start with $50, but start with something
@@JavohnKOddie The showcase as we showed we spent $88 on. Showcase is better than Marquee for Spotify, but playlisting is still cheaper and Facebook and IG ads can still beat it as well
Spotify not even paying artist the amount you pay for the promotion. Your not profiting anything. If your not getting a return or more on your investment its not worth doing. Find a way to get a return and grow for real.
The value of promotion extends beyond immediate financial gains. Promotion helps in building an artist's brand, expanding their audience, and increasing their visibility across platforms. This can lead to more gig opportunities, merchandise sales, and potentially lucrative partnerships or collaborations. It's also about long-term growth and establishing a solid foundation for your music career.
Bro This not absurd they talk like this lik wasn’t that easy they try to make it worded fun for Us , PEOPLE NEED TO STOP PAYING FOR FAKE STREAMS OR FIND A NEW SCAM
Spotify is so boring to listen to with all tracks on the same Lufs with silent between them and a lot of not original versions of older music. Beside the poor sound quality. If you really want to experience music go to a physical play out sit or dance in your living room. Enjoy 😘
Spotify suppose to help the music grow to the listeners they have the platform and playlist to do it, but choose to mostly only help major artist, then get mad when independent artist go else where for promotion, if spotify helped artist then it wouldnt be no independent playlist promotion. Also showcase and marquee aint worth doing spoyify suppose to pay you for your streams but now they want you to pay them for streams and you not even getting the money back or more on your return. They already pay you less then a penny per stream so the best way go go is pay for advertising to sale your music vs stream. Imagine paying $100 to reach 50k ppl to buy your song for $1 im sure you a come out better. Im sure you a make the $100 back and some , trust and believe in yourself the music a speak for itself
You're right in that if their ad platform was better more people would use it. We use Google and Meta ads all the time because they are much better than Spotify ads. If they opened up advertising on their search functions it would be a whole new ball game, but they have been very slow to adapt to the market.
We gave an example of the checkboxes at the beginning of Distrokid, but artists who use Tunecore and other distributors have contacted asking us about their new policies. And if you watch the rest of the video all the way through you can see it is not clickbait
@@OmariMC_ I'm here because I've read TuneCore. I thought it would be like a competition between those distributors you know. Okay thanks for the answer 😊
DistroKid has way better promotions then Tunecore... Tunecore is boring but if they amped up their promos and actually helped the artist, then yes. And that's why TUNECORE went unlimited on their yearly fees to compete with DISTROKID KID.
Ultimately, the choice between both distributors or any other distributor should be based on which platform aligns best with your career goals, the volume of music you plan to release, and the specific services you value most.
The question is is Spotify going to tell the difference between an artist buying fake bot plays or some other artist doing it to sabotage another artist. It’s crazy. Some even think it’s genuine promotion
That part is problematic. We would advise artists to contact support for their distributor as soon as they suspect a bad playlist. We've had it happen to our own catalog as well, but it was a minuscule amount of plays compared to our overall plays, so Spotify would not have cared. It has to be a significant percentage of the overall plays for them to conclude that an artist is paying for bot plays intentionally
PREACH
This has happened to me and I've never gotten advertising at all in any way shape or form.
But Spotify removed my song
@@scottyjam2020 this is what I am talking about. What if you hire a legit person to share your songs and then they hire services to boost your song to make themselves look good. This happened with my fiend. It’s crazy.
@@KyraSimoneofficial yep and you have to say youre guilty to be able to log back in
Not to mention there are tons of people who own playlists that generate fake bot streams to songs that we artists get added to. Spotify needs to do a better job of MAKING SURE WHO exactly is botting the music instead of blaming it on the artist completely. I had this happen to me, and I’ve never paid for fake streams. We know stream farms = 0 pay
FACTZ
I agree with you on that
Pretty sure thats what happened to Benn Jordan. Got accused of botting, then they had to backtrack when they realise they had just punked a major international EDM act. The running theory with a lot of folk is him getting added without his consent to bott streams to juice the stats and steal listeners for bott streams.
They tried to do the same thing with me but none of my streams was fake nothing got took down no royalties was held thanks for explaining.
Glad to hear that
When I do promo on instagram the thing that gets me mad is that the people it's "reaching" with THIER promo is bots. I get fake follows and fake views. So I feel like they are basically saying if we catch you using someone else's bots and not ours
Yea, we get that. But there are ways even within IG to ensure you are getting the highest quality traffic by having conversion campaigns. These platforms are trying to fight the bots just like a good promo company is too, but their solutions can sometimes be misguided.
It looks like the future is about funneling the audience to the artist’s exclusive website, bypassing the middle person. That should be fun.
Well it can be a shift to focus more on directing traffic to an artist's exclusive website, bypassing intermediaries but it also opens up new opportunities for direct connection and control over content and fan interactions.
It is the world up side down. The artist is held responsible for what listeners and others are doing on Spotify. If Spotify has issues with bots and they can identify them then why not block the bot instead of the artist?
Unfortunately, the current system can sometimes unfairly penalize artists. This is why it's crucial to stay informed about the policies of distribution platforms, and to advocate for more artist-friendly solutions.
Does this mean don’t use distributors, how do we prevent Spotify from removing our songs while still promoting it organically? Please answer I’m thinking of buying promo from you guys but I don’t want my music taken down, thank you 🙏🏾
I'm not saying not to use a distributor. Using a distributor is a crucial step in getting your music onto Spotify and other streaming platforms, as it ensures your tracks are delivered correctly and royalties are collected on your behalf. Work with well-known and reputable distributors that have a good track record and make sure you check their policies.
I hope someday I can hire your company to promote my album ❤
When you're ready to take that step, we'll be here to support you in making your album a success.
Who has 500 dollars to promote?? This is ridiculous
Not many have that when they first start out, but over time as a business grows, the marketing budget grows. If you don't have $500, start with $50, but start with something
$500 for under 200 listens?
@@JavohnKOddie The showcase as we showed we spent $88 on. Showcase is better than Marquee for Spotify, but playlisting is still cheaper and Facebook and IG ads can still beat it as well
I can pay more than 500 to get promoted ,I guess I'll see if it works 😅
Spotify not even paying artist the amount you pay for the promotion. Your not profiting anything. If your not getting a return or more on your investment its not worth doing. Find a way to get a return and grow for real.
The value of promotion extends beyond immediate financial gains.
Promotion helps in building an artist's brand, expanding their audience, and increasing their visibility across platforms. This can lead to more gig opportunities, merchandise sales, and potentially lucrative partnerships or collaborations. It's also about long-term growth and establishing a solid foundation for your music career.
hes alive
Don't call it a comeback! 😂
?.... I'm even more confused now. Thanks.
Just giving a heads up to artists
Bro This not absurd they talk like this lik wasn’t that easy they try to make it worded fun for Us , PEOPLE NEED TO STOP PAYING FOR FAKE STREAMS OR FIND A NEW SCAM
We agree people should stop paying for fake streams, but to say that 100% of marketing agencies are fake is some middle school logic
Spotify is so boring to listen to with all tracks on the same Lufs with silent between them and a lot of not original versions of older music. Beside the poor sound quality. If you really want to experience music go to a physical play out sit or dance in your living room. Enjoy 😘
It's all about finding what works best for you and enhances your music enjoyment! 😊
Spotify suppose to help the music grow to the listeners they have the platform and playlist to do it, but choose to mostly only help major artist, then get mad when independent artist go else where for promotion, if spotify helped artist then it wouldnt be no independent playlist promotion. Also showcase and marquee aint worth doing spoyify suppose to pay you for your streams but now they want you to pay them for streams and you not even getting the money back or more on your return. They already pay you less then a penny per stream so the best way go go is pay for advertising to sale your music vs stream. Imagine paying $100 to reach 50k ppl to buy your song for $1 im sure you a come out better. Im sure you a make the $100 back and some , trust and believe in yourself the music a speak for itself
You're right in that if their ad platform was better more people would use it. We use Google and Meta ads all the time because they are much better than Spotify ads. If they opened up advertising on their search functions it would be a whole new ball game, but they have been very slow to adapt to the market.
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Is it a clickbait?! Cause I didn't even see some examples of TuneCore, right
We gave an example of the checkboxes at the beginning of Distrokid, but artists who use Tunecore and other distributors have contacted asking us about their new policies. And if you watch the rest of the video all the way through you can see it is not clickbait
@@OmariMC_ I'm here because I've read TuneCore. I thought it would be like a competition between those distributors you know. Okay thanks for the answer 😊
*east or west distrokid is best*
They used to be up there until they let the intern get a hold of the tick boxes
DistroKid has way better promotions then Tunecore...
Tunecore is boring but if they amped up their promos and actually helped the artist, then yes. And that's why TUNECORE went unlimited on their yearly fees to compete with DISTROKID KID.
Ultimately, the choice between both distributors or any other distributor should be based on which platform aligns best with your career goals, the volume of music you plan to release, and the specific services you value most.
you havent sold 100 bucks on distrokid. this I know