Something worth noting is that Physical Power scales differently if you are below 15 Power. For example, the Rogue has about a -20% Physical Power Bonus by default, with each missing point in Phys Power being worth about -3% damage, and so getting a few points in Strength or Phys Power to bring it up to 15 is actually very impactful, potentially more impactful than flat damage bonuses. However, once you reach 15 Phys Power, it starts to scale 1% bonus damage per-point, and so it stops being worth it compared to flat damage bonuses.
I too can confirm the health shrine doesn't full heal, as I was actually watching a clip of a seriously wounded Barbarian using one, and it did *not* do so! It really surprised me too, because I only ever got full healed in my personal playthroughs.
I can confirm this for playtest 3. Was playing my barb, had 150+ health with my health gear and passives and used a shrine with a sliver of health after killing a trio, only got me to around 90-95% health. That was when I realized it was a fixed amount. I didn't look to see what my health was at when I used the shrine cause the adrenaline was pumping pretty good.
Great video I just got into dark and Darker this last playtest! I think you're doing a great job getting out early content on this game! Keep up the great work!
Number of armor points divided by 5 is the physical damage reduction percentage. For example 100 total armor points is equal to 20 percent prot against phys damage. A lot of stats do not raise equally to their attribute or point value, like having 15 physical strenght attribute doesnt mean you do 15 percent more phys damage . (I beleive its based around 10, and every point above or below 10 counts as a 2 percent increase/decrease to phys damage) worth mentioning
Thanks for the info on the armor rating calculation, I wasn't sure how it worked exactly. As for the attributes, I figured it would take too long/be too complicated for this video so I didn't get into the thresholds, but I probably should've mentioned that somewhere
So basically strength provide Physical Power, and this stat increase physical damage as well as arrow damage, so to deal more damage as an Ranger you still need strength, cause agility only gives us more shooting speed an i right at this point? ofk i understand that we can get more damage by just having more pdps on bow but the point here is whitch one is better for ranger to deal more damage from shot Strength/Agility
Hi, new sub here. tbh I love your other videos but this one is pretty mid because you just read the descriptions to us. with your skills I thought you would be going in depth in how impactful stats are. for example in another video you said the gauntlets with strength were best for rogues, but in my dummy testing I found that increasing my strength by 1 increased my damage by....1, so why is that gauntlet best in slot? 1 damage per strike isn't impactful at all. can you please talk more about which stats you prioritize and why, and what stats are the most impactful? especially for rogue. thanks dude. your vids are an inspiration.
+1 damage is a lot when your damage is already low, thats +5% damage(which is exactly how much a Rogue gains from +1 Strength) if you deal 20 damage, you also gain +2-3 max hp. +1 in agility would be +1% movement speed and +1.5%(for a rogue, they get more, its +1% for other classes) action speed which is less than +5% damage. It's also possible you already had high strength. +3 Strength is worth +15% damage and +9 hp for a rogue, if you think about the other enchants on gear nothing comes close to that.
5:18 is right? I'm aware of (Base Weapon damage+Bonus weapon damage)*physical damage bonus+additional physical damage+true physical damage until now. Also do you know about magic damge dealt equation?
Hey Repoze love the videos man super chill too. Just curious if you know how phy/magic dmg+ and true phy/magic dmg+ stats work on dot's like rupture and poisoned weapon? Also just curious your thoughts on the best stats to prioritize on rogue and why? Thanks man love the stuff your doing and love when you explain your thought process's.
i know this might be a stupid question but arrows are considered as physical dmg right so True damage, armor penetration, strength and physical power all increase the dmg of arrows shot from bows?@Repoze
It is not only spells, the way both additional physical damage and additional magic damage works is that it only adds onto something already dealing that damage type. So a cleric using smite will have his bonus magical damage on hit benefit from additional magic damage, but not his physical damage. Likewise the crystal sword hits will benefit from additional magic damage and Magic power %, but only the part that already deals magic dmg. Additional magic dmg and magic power % also affect rogues poison damage for instance despite that it is not a spell and is applied by physical attacks.
Hey, do you know how stats affect buffs ? For example, if as a wiz, I cast Ignite on my teammate, is the "additional magical damage" from my gear added to his swings or is it the magical damage from his gear ? Same question for buff duration.
not sure about the ignite damage, but the buff duration stat of the person being buffed is what affects them. so if a cleric with really high buff duration buffs their teammate, the teammates buff duration bonus is what influences the length of the buff, not the clerics
Question, is the crystal sword the best weapon for the wizard if it has a lot of additional weapon dmg or any of the the stats, because they both increase the magic dmg of spells as well as the base dmg of the melee swing? Edit: I saw you basically answered my question in another comment so Im going to ask a different question. Does true dmg add additional dmg that ignores resistances or does it make some you the dmg your weapon already has, ignore resistances? Do healing spells benefits from the Will stat? Do they benefit from the additional magic dmg, magical power increases? Are the abilities of some classes like Judgement and smite benefiting from all the additional dmg increases? Last thing I want to mention, that you may want to add to the video is that stats seem to change depending on what weapon you are wielding. So +all attributes on a sword doesnt affect you when you pull out a bow.
Thanks for the clarification at the last part, I should've mentioned that in the video As for the questions I'll go one by one: -True damage adds a flat amount of damage to your attacks -Will doesn't affect healing, as far as I can tell only the Magical Healing stat affects heals from spells -Spells like Judgement/Smite are affected by stats like Additional Magic Damage and Magical Power Also note this is just what I know from the December playtest, some of this stuff may change from playtest to playtest
it's weird that this game called "immersive medieval PvPvE" but those complex mechanics actually makes the game less immersive than an actual typical MMORPG. Devs just need to simplify those stats.
Enjoying the content @Repoze. My question is does + True magical or Magical damage stat roll on a melee weapon work? Does it add what ever the stat is hit for magic damage in addition to the weapons physical damage? I hope its the case that a melee fighter can have that extra magic damage variability.
True/additional magic damage on a weapon only increase magic damage dealt, so as far as I know it wouldn't do anything on Fighter. It would be good on something like Rogue (poison does magic damage) or Wizard for more damage on spells. Also, crystal sword deals both physical and magical damage on swing so it would be useful there too
@@tolagan tbh I'm not sure because I've never played cleric, but I think any spell they cast that does damage/adds damage is influenced by additional magic damage
So would additional damage bonuses be better on faster attacking, low dmg weapons, whereas power bonuses would be better on slower attacking, high dmg weapons?
They mentioned in the video that additional damage is always better unless you've already reached 100 flat damage. This applies to all weapons, regardless of speed. In terms of efficiency, flat damage does benefit lower-damage, faster weapons more. 5 additional damage is more impactful on something that does 20 damage and swings several times per second. But unless the slower weapon is doing over 100 base damage already, there's no reason to use power bonuses.
wait why would equipment buff debuffs that are on you? Thats stupid, I thought it was how long debuffs I would apply on target last, that'd make much more sense
Does having high armor boots increase your overall armor rating in the head/torso? The armor rating seems to be a total, despite being effected by damage multipliers for hitboxes (head, arms, legs etc)
yeah armor rating on any piece of gear just serves to increase your overall physical damage reduction, so armor rating on boots makes your character more durable overall
@@Repoze cool thanks, I thought that was a case. Which is a shame because I often wear lightfoot boots and cloth pants to increase speed but apparently that is reducing my overall defence..
@@Repoze Depends on the class I think. Fighter doesn't want to sacrifice the massive defense bonuses they can get with decent plate armor and +10% armor rating perk.
So I'm curious if additional physical damage is better than true physical damage typically because it rolls higher for PvE or if PvE has armor and physical reduction values
Not sure. I know that anything appearing above your health bar as one of the blue boxes counts as a buff, but I forget if invisibility potions have the blue icon when active. I’ll do some research and reply again if I find a definitive answer 😅
True damage > damage > armor penetration > strength > physical power, for those who want a stat priority for physical damage. Replace physical true/regular damage with magical counterparts, armor pen with magic pen, strength with will, and physical power with spell casting speed, for magical damage/spellcasting.
Sure i will prioritize + 1 true dmg instead of 1% armor pen on my barbarian 🤡, at least try to know that there is plenty of priority depending on ur class and playstyle
@Ha Ga do you not understand math? The ONLY instance where 1% armor pen will be better than 1 true phys damage is if you're dealing >150 damage per hit before armor damage reduction applies. If you're dealing 60 damage per hit before armor damage reduction applies and the enemy has 25% damage reduction via armor, you'll deal 45 damage. If you give yourself 1% armor pen, that amount will not change enough to round up to 46. If you give yourself 1 true phys damage, that number will be 46. At 150 damage, you'll deal 125 damage after damage reduction, with 1% armor pen still only giving you 1 whole damage boost... you have to deal 151 damage before 1% armor pen will give you 2 damage. If you change that 25% to 50% damage reduction, the 1% pen/1 true phys damage result won't change. You'll deal 30/30/31 (no stat/armor pen/true phys at 60 damage before armor) and 75/76/76 (at 150 damage) respectively.
@@martinschulein6992 Spell capacity is literally just fucking spell capacity. Clerics typically have 4 lesser heals. With +1 spell capacity they have 5 lesser heals. At least, that's the assumption. This guy mains rogue so you can't really expect him to know everything, especially if it regards spells.
@@Murasame13 Thanks for the info but when i tested it thats not what it did. Maybe it was bugged at the time since stats in lobby dont work until you get ingame.
@@martinschulein6992 I managed to find some gloves with +2 spell capacity so I was able to properly test it. It simply increases your spell memory by 2. For example, Cleric can take Rez for 8 memory. +2 spell capacity gives you 2 to that limit. 1 knowledge also gives you +1 spell capacity but also spell casting speed.
Magical interaction speed does not seem to be implemented into the game yet or is almost negligible if it is implemented. Play test is over now, I know, but the wizard even with massive amounts of knowledge (my friend was in high 40's with his good gear) would open portals about 3 times slower than me as rogue or ranger, and interacted with prayer shrines slower as well. All interactions, at least up until playtest #4 were only affected by regular interaction speed, or magical interaction speed was negligible effect.
Alot of usseles stats physical power additional damage those arent even needed in game they should remove them honestly and considering these are korean devs we are probably gonna suffer some hard pay to win stuff in this game thats what i am affraid
Its all developers who despises the current direction that game developing is headed, including micro transactions, so i am hopeful, atleast thats what the CEO said in an interview.
@@MrBa143 They're adding microtransactions for sure. My problem is with microtransactions that affect gameplay or paid content expansions. Keep the MTX cosmetics only so I can ignore them.
Something worth noting is that Physical Power scales differently if you are below 15 Power. For example, the Rogue has about a -20% Physical Power Bonus by default, with each missing point in Phys Power being worth about -3% damage, and so getting a few points in Strength or Phys Power to bring it up to 15 is actually very impactful, potentially more impactful than flat damage bonuses. However, once you reach 15 Phys Power, it starts to scale 1% bonus damage per-point, and so it stops being worth it compared to flat damage bonuses.
I too can confirm the health shrine doesn't full heal, as I was actually watching a clip of a seriously wounded Barbarian using one, and it did *not* do so! It really surprised me too, because I only ever got full healed in my personal playthroughs.
I can confirm this for playtest 3.
Was playing my barb, had 150+ health with my health gear and passives and used a shrine with a sliver of health after killing a trio, only got me to around 90-95% health. That was when I realized it was a fixed amount.
I didn't look to see what my health was at when I used the shrine cause the adrenaline was pumping pretty good.
It heals 100 hp
clear and precise well done
Great video I just got into dark and Darker this last playtest! I think you're doing a great job getting out early content on this game! Keep up the great work!
Also You should make a Community discord server so people can reach out to yah! Post it on your youtube under your about Section
@@Phnoey thx for the kind words, i'm not planning on starting a community discord atm but maybe in the future :D
@@Repoze Thats fair! Then instead you should have an email or somewhere so that people can contact you about your channel.
Cool Explantation! thanks!
i was always sure that magical healing was what affects healing potions
thank you will be checking this out again before next playtest!
one good thing to take note of is stats from your weapons only apply while they are in your hands and not just equipped.
This is the kind of thing better confined to a page of text.
Number of armor points divided by 5 is the physical damage reduction percentage. For example 100 total armor points is equal to 20 percent prot against phys damage. A lot of stats do not raise equally to their attribute or point value, like having 15 physical strenght attribute doesnt mean you do 15 percent more phys damage . (I beleive its based around 10, and every point above or below 10 counts as a 2 percent increase/decrease to phys damage) worth mentioning
Thanks for the info on the armor rating calculation, I wasn't sure how it worked exactly. As for the attributes, I figured it would take too long/be too complicated for this video so I didn't get into the thresholds, but I probably should've mentioned that somewhere
Great video!
thanks for making this video. btw you talk like the goths from south park
So basically strength provide Physical Power, and this stat increase physical damage as well as arrow damage, so to deal more damage as an Ranger you still need strength, cause agility only gives us more shooting speed an i right at this point? ofk i understand that we can get more damage by just having more pdps on bow but the point here is whitch one is better for ranger to deal more damage from shot Strength/Agility
i did not know buff duration bonus worked with prot potions thanks :D
valuable work
Hi, new sub here. tbh I love your other videos but this one is pretty mid because you just read the descriptions to us. with your skills I thought you would be going in depth in how impactful stats are. for example in another video you said the gauntlets with strength were best for rogues, but in my dummy testing I found that increasing my strength by 1 increased my damage by....1, so why is that gauntlet best in slot? 1 damage per strike isn't impactful at all. can you please talk more about which stats you prioritize and why, and what stats are the most impactful? especially for rogue. thanks dude. your vids are an inspiration.
+1 damage is a lot when your damage is already low, thats +5% damage(which is exactly how much a Rogue gains from +1 Strength) if you deal 20 damage, you also gain +2-3 max hp. +1 in agility would be +1% movement speed and +1.5%(for a rogue, they get more, its +1% for other classes) action speed which is less than +5% damage. It's also possible you already had high strength. +3 Strength is worth +15% damage and +9 hp for a rogue, if you think about the other enchants on gear nothing comes close to that.
5:18 is right?
I'm aware of (Base Weapon damage+Bonus weapon damage)*physical damage bonus+additional physical damage+true physical damage until now.
Also do you know about magic damge dealt equation?
Hey Repoze love the videos man super chill too. Just curious if you know how phy/magic dmg+ and true phy/magic dmg+ stats work on dot's like rupture and poisoned weapon? Also just curious your thoughts on the best stats to prioritize on rogue and why? Thanks man love the stuff your doing and love when you explain your thought process's.
i know this might be a stupid question but arrows are considered as physical dmg right so True damage, armor penetration, strength and physical power all increase the dmg of arrows shot from bows?@Repoze
no idea if this was commented on yet but Debuff duration (at 2:42 ) is bugged and does the opposite of this description
i didnt understand the difference between additional physical damage and physhical damage bonus
helpful
Hi Repoze, does the additional magical damage stat cause physical hits to deal additional magical damage? Or only spells?
only spells
It is not only spells, the way both additional physical damage and additional magic damage works is that it only adds onto something already dealing that damage type. So a cleric using smite will have his bonus magical damage on hit benefit from additional magic damage, but not his physical damage. Likewise the crystal sword hits will benefit from additional magic damage and Magic power %, but only the part that already deals magic dmg. Additional magic dmg and magic power % also affect rogues poison damage for instance despite that it is not a spell and is applied by physical attacks.
Hey, do you know how stats affect buffs ? For example, if as a wiz, I cast Ignite on my teammate, is the "additional magical damage" from my gear added to his swings or is it the magical damage from his gear ? Same question for buff duration.
not sure about the ignite damage, but the buff duration stat of the person being buffed is what affects them. so if a cleric with really high buff duration buffs their teammate, the teammates buff duration bonus is what influences the length of the buff, not the clerics
Can we have like a rank system for all the stats, that would be nice for people who is new but not sure what to buy from the market like me XD
Too many useless stats like magical interaction ten types of damages
Yea the % increases and the flat increases are redundant. Should just get rid of the % increases imo.
noice thx you
Question, is the crystal sword the best weapon for the wizard if it has a lot of additional weapon dmg or any of the the stats, because they both increase the magic dmg of spells as well as the base dmg of the melee swing?
Edit: I saw you basically answered my question in another comment so Im going to ask a different question. Does true dmg add additional dmg that ignores resistances or does it make some you the dmg your weapon already has, ignore resistances?
Do healing spells benefits from the Will stat? Do they benefit from the additional magic dmg, magical power increases? Are the abilities of some classes like Judgement and smite benefiting from all the additional dmg increases?
Last thing I want to mention, that you may want to add to the video is that stats seem to change depending on what weapon you are wielding. So +all attributes on a sword doesnt affect you when you pull out a bow.
Thanks for the clarification at the last part, I should've mentioned that in the video
As for the questions I'll go one by one:
-True damage adds a flat amount of damage to your attacks
-Will doesn't affect healing, as far as I can tell only the Magical Healing stat affects heals from spells
-Spells like Judgement/Smite are affected by stats like Additional Magic Damage and Magical Power
Also note this is just what I know from the December playtest, some of this stuff may change from playtest to playtest
it's weird that this game called "immersive medieval PvPvE" but those complex mechanics actually makes the game less immersive than an actual typical MMORPG. Devs just need to simplify those stats.
Enjoying the content @Repoze. My question is does + True magical or Magical damage stat roll on a melee weapon work? Does it add what ever the stat is hit for magic damage in addition to the weapons physical damage? I hope its the case that a melee fighter can have that extra magic damage variability.
True/additional magic damage on a weapon only increase magic damage dealt, so as far as I know it wouldn't do anything on Fighter. It would be good on something like Rogue (poison does magic damage) or Wizard for more damage on spells. Also, crystal sword deals both physical and magical damage on swing so it would be useful there too
@@Repoze Cool, do you think it would stack on a clerics judgement as its technically in their hand? or only on weapon hit
@@tolagan tbh I'm not sure because I've never played cleric, but I think any spell they cast that does damage/adds damage is influenced by additional magic damage
Best vid
does true magical damage on a gear add in a hit whith a weapon like a dagger ?
So would additional damage bonuses be better on faster attacking, low dmg weapons, whereas power bonuses would be better on slower attacking, high dmg weapons?
They mentioned in the video that additional damage is always better unless you've already reached 100 flat damage. This applies to all weapons, regardless of speed.
In terms of efficiency, flat damage does benefit lower-damage, faster weapons more. 5 additional damage is more impactful on something that does 20 damage and swings several times per second. But unless the slower weapon is doing over 100 base damage already, there's no reason to use power bonuses.
additional magic dmg doesnt work with melee weapon?
Do stats like Physical power effect ranged weapons like bows?
Wanted to ask if a rouge gets a flat magic damage bonus if he's running poisoned weapon perk
wait why would equipment buff debuffs that are on you? Thats stupid, I thought it was how long debuffs I would apply on target last, that'd make much more sense
It doesn't, it reduces the duration of debuffs on you. However currently it likely also reduces the duration of lich spells on you which is kinda bad.
Does having high armor boots increase your overall armor rating in the head/torso? The armor rating seems to be a total, despite being effected by damage multipliers for hitboxes (head, arms, legs etc)
yeah armor rating on any piece of gear just serves to increase your overall physical damage reduction, so armor rating on boots makes your character more durable overall
@@Repoze cool thanks, I thought that was a case. Which is a shame because I often wear lightfoot boots and cloth pants to increase speed but apparently that is reducing my overall defence..
@@Bishop1664 glad to help! also, lightfoot boots are turbo good. I think the armor rating loss is definitely worth the extra movespeed
@@Repoze Depends on the class I think. Fighter doesn't want to sacrifice the massive defense bonuses they can get with decent plate armor and +10% armor rating perk.
So I'm curious if additional physical damage is better than true physical damage typically because it rolls higher for PvE or if PvE has armor and physical reduction values
is there a cap for buff duration?
The shrines do 100 healing, a barb low on health wont be fully healed.
he sounds so depressed
Health shrines did not heal my barb to full health.
3:08 does action speed effect reload time?
also 4:02 the healthshrine heals 100hp, it put my 4hp barb to 104 instead of full
Does buff durations bonus include invisibility pots?
Not sure. I know that anything appearing above your health bar as one of the blue boxes counts as a buff, but I forget if invisibility potions have the blue icon when active. I’ll do some research and reply again if I find a definitive answer 😅
Yeah at this point I'm 99% sure buff duration bonus improves invis potions, if it doesn't I'd assume that it's a bug
Awesome thanks for your time man preciate it. I’ll do some testing of my own next playtest
Item equip speed just needs to be removed, so pointless
what does dexterity do?
Action speed
True damage > damage > armor penetration > strength > physical power, for those who want a stat priority for physical damage. Replace physical true/regular damage with magical counterparts, armor pen with magic pen, strength with will, and physical power with spell casting speed, for magical damage/spellcasting.
Sure i will prioritize + 1 true dmg instead of 1% armor pen on my barbarian 🤡, at least try to know that there is plenty of priority depending on ur class and playstyle
@Ha Ga do you not understand math? The ONLY instance where 1% armor pen will be better than 1 true phys damage is if you're dealing >150 damage per hit before armor damage reduction applies. If you're dealing 60 damage per hit before armor damage reduction applies and the enemy has 25% damage reduction via armor, you'll deal 45 damage. If you give yourself 1% armor pen, that amount will not change enough to round up to 46. If you give yourself 1 true phys damage, that number will be 46. At 150 damage, you'll deal 125 damage after damage reduction, with 1% armor pen still only giving you 1 whole damage boost... you have to deal 151 damage before 1% armor pen will give you 2 damage.
If you change that 25% to 50% damage reduction, the 1% pen/1 true phys damage result won't change. You'll deal 30/30/31 (no stat/armor pen/true phys at 60 damage before armor) and 75/76/76 (at 150 damage) respectively.
yeah and what is spell capacity?
Didn't you see? spell capacity increases spell capacity lol such useless video except for the damage calculation explanation
@@sebaitor I have nothing to add
@@martinschulein6992 Spell capacity is literally just fucking spell capacity. Clerics typically have 4 lesser heals. With +1 spell capacity they have 5 lesser heals. At least, that's the assumption. This guy mains rogue so you can't really expect him to know everything, especially if it regards spells.
@@Murasame13 Thanks for the info but when i tested it thats not what it did. Maybe it was bugged at the time since stats in lobby dont work until you get ingame.
@@martinschulein6992 I managed to find some gloves with +2 spell capacity so I was able to properly test it. It simply increases your spell memory by 2. For example, Cleric can take Rez for 8 memory. +2 spell capacity gives you 2 to that limit. 1 knowledge also gives you +1 spell capacity but also spell casting speed.
Magical interaction speed does not seem to be implemented into the game yet or is almost negligible if it is implemented. Play test is over now, I know, but the wizard even with massive amounts of knowledge (my friend was in high 40's with his good gear) would open portals about 3 times slower than me as rogue or ranger, and interacted with prayer shrines slower as well. All interactions, at least up until playtest #4 were only affected by regular interaction speed, or magical interaction speed was negligible effect.
Not true anymore. My Wizard opens them FAST, my ranger for example or warlock way slower.
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You didn't even explain anything. You just read their descriptions that you can get from in game. lmao
Alot of usseles stats physical power additional damage those arent even needed in game they should remove them honestly and considering these are korean devs we are probably gonna suffer some hard pay to win stuff in this game thats what i am affraid
Its all developers who despises the current direction that game developing is headed, including micro transactions, so i am hopeful, atleast thats what the CEO said in an interview.
@@MrBa143 They're adding microtransactions for sure. My problem is with microtransactions that affect gameplay or paid content expansions. Keep the MTX cosmetics only so I can ignore them.