Group B. The answer to the question "What if we went too far in rally racing? What if we crossed that line and risked EVERYTHING, even our lives, in the ultimate pursuit of speed?". Gone, but never forgotten.
I had the fortune of my grandfather still being around to tell me about group b, he was a frequent spectator. He has so much enthusiasm when talking about it, this sport really touched a lot of people
how lucky he is to have experienced it first-hand.
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Group B was real golden era of sport. Audi, Lancia, Peugeot, Metro, Ford,... These cars deserve to be legends. I was born too late to see them on my own eyes, but I love them so much. RIP Group B
Even though WRC requires incredible skill that I struggle to even comprehend. That said, Group B still was another level from another time - never to be repeated.
Mark their is many younger generation who get rather worked up(angered or insulted)by comments like yours mine and many others, mainly the younger generation of the WRC fans, some that in the wording it appears would like to beat you and myself senseless with our opinions, so try and word things in a milder or careful way as they might want to stone you to death and myself and others alike if you put GROUP B above WRC as they might send their vigilante groups who might track you via Facebook, something I don't bother with thank god! Again " personally I agree with you on your comment but some certainty don't, Goodbye sir!!
Group B wouldn't be able to repeated again. Those monstrous 4 wheeled coffin are still too dangerous even with nowadays technology. Those drivers in that era can be described as an legend, a modern gladiator that playing with Angel of death.
Currently I have a Peugeot 106 from 1992 and would not trade for any car in the world ... Auto has a soul, and no one can deny. Do not sell it for any money
Yea except it's stolen and a music track played over another. Here's the original with the original music track. th-cam.com/video/JG9yfutJ254/w-d-xo.html
THE EDITING, THE EDITING. I had the to pause it for a second, i've never seen a video so well done, you can feel strong nostalgia from a time you didn't even lived in, that's how crazy that vid is
Brilliant words! GROUP B was a one in a life time experience, they (personally) were the most insane days of any Motorsport, some might disagree but wrc although technologically superior, but in terms of entertainment,health and safety virtually Zero, pure power without any restrictions like today's wrapped up in cotton wool society and the ability to touch the things (if you had the balls) the drivers having the balls to even drive the things like the S4 with the petrol tank under both driver+co arse plus the handling of one that was at times as controllable as a shopping trolley are far superior than today's wrc,the list is endless,anyway! DON'T CRY BECAUSE IT'S OVER, SMILE BECAUSE IT HAPPENED.
Oh,rainbow six siege? Hey,im playing it too! And i dont know if group b cars will beat ferrari,maybe f430,in straight line the ferrari would won but in corners.... in corners group b cars will beat any cars that are allowed to drive on the street
the 80's was the golden age of the automobile and motorsports, we had group b, we had 253 mph le man cars that could match speeds of formula 1 cars, we had Senna, Prost, production cars could surpass 200 mph, we had the first production cars with carbon fiber, we had the worlds fastest car (197 mph Porsche 959) going to the Dakar rally and winning, we had the record breaking speeds at nascar shaving over 212 mph, we experienced the last days of rallying for Porsche, Lancia, Bmw and Audi, family cars would do 120 mph and it would be like nothing (bear in mind, 120 mph was the 80's equivalent to 160 mph which is fast for today's standards in my book), we had everything. why can't we have that again.
I was born too late. I want to see Group B so bad. And now, It’s gone forever. Those cars were amazing, and they’re not made like this anymore. It brings a tear to my eye. Group B will always be remembered. RIP Group B
Same, i am born too late too but i kbow for a fact, today cars are made through political crap regulations and market segments and shit. back then cars were made with a passion
Who ever made this video clearly knows what rally is supposed to be. The group b rally was the ultimate test for car handling.Those times were amazing and should never be passed into legend. The Group b era must come back.
they really should, because technology advanced so much since we could probably have 2000+hp cars doing 0-60 in less than 1second and them having a 300mph+ top speed.
@@tinycockjock1967 I know that and I love it aswell but regulations happened and it was consiedered as to dangerous. I would LOVE to watch group B but it will never happen
I've lost count how many times I've watched this. This footage paired with this piece of music truly makes it as epic as the racing was. Genuinely makes my hairs stand on end. Bravo sir, bravo. The category may have gone, but stuff like this will make sure its never forgotten.
This is the greatest sport ever create because there were no regulations. It was about being brave and striving to push those cars to the limit. It wasn't about how fast your car is, it was how fast the driver was willing to go. Many drivers died in group b but we know they were willing to die because they loved the sport. It is a shame it only lasted three years but when we look back we will all know the greatest drivers came from group b rallying.
Wrong use of words, no one was willing to die, sounds like suicide. They knew the risk, and were willing to take the risk. Only two drivers and one co driver died during the Group B World Rally period.
I think what makes group b so legendary is that everyone was crazy. From engineers designing such monsters to drivers driving those monsters while seeing spectators Infront of them running away not to get hit.
That was my first impression aswell. But in hindsight it could be an optical illusion that he was THAT close. He probably jumped to avoid the dirt and small rocks. Still madness though, crazy spectators xD
When cars were cars and drivers were drivers.... A time long past. So sad... Racing in this age is not the same. I'm just happy I can watch video of this.
+Andreallen4 Well, though, the sub-title of Group B being for "men" vs boys is a bit off, at least where Michelle Moulton is concerned! I would've loved to see what she could've done in a F-1 car...
NurNordschleife now its all about how well can a computer on wheels can keep you safe not how well a friver can drive like it used to be i miss group b
Cars back then weren't computerized they were real authentic amazing they had real steering so you could really get a feel for the cars and feel every bump of the road but now we have computerized steering and it just doesn't feel the same cars are bigger and heavier and have more wires running through them you get an Audi or BMW from today it just won't feel the same Cuzz now companies are aiming towards luxery you get a new Audi or BMW it will have crazy issues in 4 or 5 years cuz that's how technology is they are too complicated an not simple like they were back then
Unironically had my dad shed a tear at this. Hes 55 now. He watched group livr as a young man. Hard working european mechanii all his life, tough as nails and never seen him cry before. But this has made him break.
This is some pure example of motorsport, combine it with formula one and you have the real definition of it. The 80's was, arguably, the best era of motor racing, just pure engineering, fire breathing monsters mixed up with smooth asphalt to bumpy gravel roads or even snow plus some mad drivers and you have something out of this world. This is the heaven for any petrol head out there!
This is my favorite video on TH-cam. Probably watch it 20 times a month and have been since 2018. It really captures the raw energy that rushed through the drivers, fans, and cars. Truly this is an extraordinary video that gets my heart racing and my mind inspired. Thanks for this!
Peder Hansen metro 6r4 could often reach above 200mph mechanic took therapy in between rallys as they often found4 blood,hair and fingers from spectators drivers got tunnel vision an audi A4 lost control and killed 6 spectators and the driver who broke his spine and the roll cages were aliminium light thats what I call amazing shame I never seen it
Peder Hansen its not about the times, listen to those sounds, no co2 emissions. Look at the crowd on the racetrack. It is group B rally, something else than just cars and good drivers, its the mixture of legendary cars and the pure love of motorsport from every single guy out there
Good times, i cried watching this, i was 10 years old when i watched these gladiators on gravel in the Portugal rally in 85.The sound still rumbles inside, visceral. They were the best pilots ever🇵🇹🏁❤️
@@pitlanegreece based on the sources and forums I've looked up says that even 90s wrc cars are getting faster than group b cars and the main reason is that even though they have power, group b regulation says smol engine = smol tires and this contributed to why these group b cars are so hard to drive, mean while wrc and beyond the 90s saw the tire size to be same for everyone while providing greater grip than their beastly predecessor combined with maneagble amounts of power so in turn faster time in stages. Raw power doesn't mean faster if over all the driver can't control it well, in the narrow and slippery rally stages, group b cars are sledgehammers while what came after that are precision tools for comparison... . And oh yeah they bumped the power now to 385 recently so we're getting back there.
I remember being at Clumber Park in Nottinghamshire watching these fire breathing monsters, on one section of road there was a Rover SD1 cop car with four traffic coppers sat on the bonnet, they wasn't there to keep the peace or nab speeding rally cars, but had a speed laser speed gun on loan from the USA and was 'testing it out', I watched a copper point the gun at a 6R4 coming around one corner, the gun recorded some 80mph, then within 200 metres the gun was reading some 148mph.....The look on the coppers faces was pure excitement.
Imagine what they were thinking when they drove so fast passing all these hundreds of people and feared that with just one little mistake it could end up in mass murder by accident.
*First guy:* I won a fist fight against Satan, two times. *Second guy* I sat on the sun for 32 weeks straight with no water *Rally Driver:* I'm a group B driver... *(First two guys get on their knees and praise him)*
The group B rally driver was Henry Toivonen. The first guy was Chuck Norris. Second Guy was Jesus. Jesus is now taking racing lessons from Henry. Chuck is still learning to drive with the rest of them.
Wow, I didn’t know it was like this within group b,blame it on being from America,i certainly recall all the references regarding group b as i read car and driver all those years...i cant wait to dive into the history of these cars and drivers..mike sr.
I love this video because it shows how alive and passionate people were in the 80s, as opposed to today's numbness. Yes, some people got hurt or lost their lives but they were ALIVE.
And the press photographers (who stood in the middle of the road to get a shot of an oncoming car and jumped out of the way at the last second, you can see them in the first minute).
Today there are barely some people with balls. Most are jus whiny oversensible pathetic freaks who dont want others to have fun because they themselves are too afraid of any fun.
Jesus isn't a real person so he can't be a racing driver... 😁 These days the cars are great, the drivers are great. That's for sure... In the old days the cars are monsters and the drivers were gods....
0:55 Wow, moments captured in time. The stage was set. From the tires, engines, cars, people, drivers. To get a moment of Group B supercars hurdling down a road. It's such a blessing that we have this footage of these cars and drivers in their hayday. Though not there now, at one point in time all these things came together in a scene, captured in video and are like memories from another era. Photos and videos are amazing, you can capture the look/"aesthetic"/feel/memory/experience of a certain point in time, and pass it on to those who haven't been there and experienced it. RIP everyone who died because of Group B.
My lord. The skill these drivers had is beyond measurable accompanied by nerves of steel, focus of a monk & balls of a tiger. They would drive circles around today's F1 so called "champions" God damn spectators killed it. In the clip, the cars barely missed them by inches on several occasions. We humans always find a way to kill something beautiful. Fuck this gay earth.
I agree with everything you say except the gay earth part because people go out with other the opposite gender and if the world was gay there would be no such thing as children.
+rob poynter * cough * Its not as if they *won this years Rally Dakar*... They had a few lazy years, but they're on their way to former greatness (i hope)
I think that in 800 years when man has become immortal, he will decorate his home with framed photos of Group B rally... And say can you imagine not knowing you were going to live forever and behaving in this way?
6:42 Never, ever has there been a machine that seemed more to be alive. It's screaming like a beast. One can really feel what this dude here must feel… And by the way @Icemanrider1 Nice cutting and sounds!
Thank you for making this incredible video. I got goosebumps watching it. It took me back 30+ years to being a kid again, experiencing what was and is the greatest motorsport of all time. Made me quite emotional actually. Just brilliant.
This was Life! This was War! i get goosbumbs and tears in my eyes watching this. These were my heroes . This makes my heart bleed. Precision , Teamwork , a life full of dedication, this was everything!
This is the most beautiful thing I have ever seen. I wish I could have been there standing on the sides and watch the cars thunder by and hear the power of the engines making the ground shake. Group B forever.
In the UK it's sad - they gave up after the Delta and withdrew to the continent, never to return. It's like they finally built a practical and very fast hot hatch that didn't rust, but it was too late.
19 year old boy over here who wishes he had lived in that era, because everything was more romantic, more unique, more powerfull, more beatiful. The cars had their own character one by one! The drivers were something more than heroes. Damn... No I'm not crying, you crying 😥
Just madness. Madness on track. Madness beside track. Mad spectators. Mad drivers. Mad cars. Madness over all. Hard to believe that this really happens. Not so many years ago. In Formula 1 they now use "halo" these days...what will be next ? Mud flaps to avoid spray...? Group B was for MEN....so real....
goldi2503 I’m also amazed by these drivers. Serious question: How did one learn how to drive with the foot technique that is used for this type of racing? I get the karting training for F1, but this is otherworldly.
@Gp2 Engine That's a very sterile view of the world. There is an element of danger in anything worth doing, and managing that danger in a way that is acceptable to you is part of doing it. What would motorcycling be without the morbid thrill in the back of your mind that you were a mere inches from disaster at every second? Part of why these men are so legendary - Group B, classic Grand Prix, is that they pushed their abilities and their machines to the very limits of their capabilities. It's thrilling to watch an aerobatic pilot enter a flat spin because you are watching someone dancing with a machine that they have taken the time to get to know as a lover, and they are dancing with that machine on a knife's edge. Not trying to be snarky, but if you want safe motorsports, then e-racing is what you're after. But for some the thrill of flirting with disaster calls too loud to ignore. They raced Group B. They ride the Isle of Man. They fly the Extra 300.
Gp2 Engine I’m in the process of building a vintage road race inspired Corvette, so I think your Audi project is cool. Ultimately though, isn’t the choice of whether danger is acceptable up to those involved? Nobody forced the drivers to race. Nobody forced the spectators to stand in the road and on the shoulder. I don’t think we should be wantonly dangerous. I pull triple digit speeds on a bike sometimes. I’m not doing that in my skivvies. So I’m not advocating throwing caution to the wind but there is a gain in doing things that are inherently unsafe, and that is testing oneself and one’s mettle. I’m guessing that you’re British, but I’m sure you’re familiar with American Football. One of my favorite sports and I played for years. If we had a rugby league around me I’d probably look into going out for a team there. Both of those sports are admittedly dangerous, but that’s part of the allure. That danger teaches you about yourself and where your own limits are. That’s why Group B is wonderful. There’s nothing glamorous about a driver and navigator burning to death in a car at the bottom of a bluff. But there is something glamorous about two men getting into a wild machine where they know death is a possibility and trying to tame that machine better than any others can.
My dad was seriously ill, every time he got borred we were watching videos like this with crazy group B rally cars, he was huge automotive fan, put his whole life in to repairing, tuning, driving like god and selling cars, in wild 90's he owned Audi 90 coupe quattro and later he was forced to sell it and he regretted it every day since then, I wanted to gift him coupe quattro, but now it's too late I miss you every day dad, thanks for everything, true rally fan, loved father and trusted friend
We thinked that in the future the cars would fly, and didnt knew that the cars already where flying in those rally events, is sad that this era has ended, but we can remember it as the best motorsport era in the history
HISPEEDLEVEL Yes it was but if you remember what happened in corsica 1986, it was right decision to move different cars because drivers safety is always the priority but seems like not then. But yeah those cars were beasts peugeot, toyota, lancia, audi for example. I'm sure that Henri would win at least 3 titles if that accident will never happened but life is unfair and we learn from mistakes and become stronger
Tears of joy in my eyes there is something special about speed and raceing that not many people understand and trully feel it in their soul respect for all Group B drivers peace!
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Dude I thought you were dead! Historically the best artists in the world die before fame.
You forgot to mention the greatest rally driver in the group b.
The Michele Mouton, who was a girl and was beating all the “men”.
@@Dodger0103 she was not the best, she is an amazing rally driver and also was a great woman drivee but she was not the best on group B
The idea that anyone wants to hear stock music over car engines spent too much time indoors.
The saddest thing about this, is that you're never again going to witness this beautiful madness with your own eyes...
So sad but so true.
Uh... go to a historic rally event.
Indeed.
I'm copying someone else's comment here:
"DON'T CRY BECAUSE IT'S OVER, SMILE BECAUSE IT HAPPENED."
So true
The actual safety barriers were made of human bodies.
Only if the marshalling was crap
Don't wanna know how many people died by one mistake, one driver hitting the brake too late. The crowd looks borderline suicidal nowadays
😂
@@Eyck-head haha
And mfs still have the nerve to dislike it
Group B. The answer to the question "What if we went too far in rally racing? What if we crossed that line and risked EVERYTHING, even our lives, in the ultimate pursuit of speed?".
Gone, but never forgotten.
16TBYZKKZK
1HJSDH
Indeed.
I’m abit late, but comment of the year.
Beautiful, isn't it
Couldn't be put better.
I had the fortune of my grandfather still being around to tell me about group b, he was a frequent spectator. He has so much enthusiasm when talking about it, this sport really touched a lot of people
This sport touched a lot of people literally 😂
how lucky he is to have experienced it first-hand.
Group B was real golden era of sport. Audi, Lancia, Peugeot, Metro, Ford,... These cars deserve to be legends.
I was born too late to see them on my own eyes, but I love them so much.
RIP Group B
Šimon Hříbek you mean mg not metro
Don't forget nissan
Peugeot fell down so hard - those cars are piece of garbage, but that's why they're cheap :]
But Audi hold their title so hard xd
Šimon Hříbek I
FIA: How crazy will your cars be?
Engineers Lancia and Audi: Yes
Peugeot: Were you expecting us not to?
Porsche: Guten Tag gentlemen.
Ferrari: care for us to join?
Citroen: Bonjour, need another lad to fight?
Taselukaneta actually its lancia: Jenkins! BRING THE SUPERCHARGER!
Speed Star Ford: Mind if we cut in?
*Dad:* Why are you crying?
*Me:* It's hard to explain
*Dad:* [Looks at the computer] It's that Group B video again?
*Also the Dad* : cries harder than his son when watching the video
I understand......
yes..
A dad raised in the 80s: I understand.
I also cry when watching the 90's dtm on nordschleife video
America in the 80s: Cocaine, crime, cool music
Europe in the 80s:
Yea right, Europe had Cocaine, crime, cool music and bad teeth.
Here in europe we had a fight between manufactures. A fight only the strongest and fastest car would win
*"Here in Europe we fight with ourselves in a group that's purpose was to stop that"* - me
@@A-FrameWedge fat murica
US in the 80s dumb people
US today even more dumber
Even though WRC requires incredible skill that I struggle to even comprehend. That said, Group B still was another level from another time - never to be repeated.
Mark their is many younger generation who get rather worked up(angered or insulted)by comments like yours mine and many others, mainly the younger generation of the WRC fans, some that in the wording it appears would like to beat you and myself senseless with our opinions, so try and word things in a milder or careful way as they might want to stone you to death and myself and others alike if you put GROUP B above WRC as they might send their vigilante groups who might track you via Facebook, something I don't bother with thank god!
Again " personally I agree with you on your comment but some certainty don't,
Goodbye sir!!
wtf u try to say? Wrc is for pussies, those are nothing like group b cars
@@garyfletcher8150 you're insane
@@cq5085 thanks !
Group B wouldn't be able to repeated again. Those monstrous 4 wheeled coffin are still too dangerous even with nowadays technology.
Those drivers in that era can be described as an legend, a modern gladiator that playing with Angel of death.
crying when I watch it. Old cars do not come back :/ The world is already filled with cars without a soul
tottally agree
tears came down my eyes when i see that quattro audi!
Currently I have a Peugeot 106 from 1992 and would not trade for any car in the world ... Auto has a soul, and no one can deny.
Do not sell it for any money
Respect and repairing old cars. Do not take their lives ....
Szymon Kacprzak repairing old cars does not take their lives...it continues it
TH-cam has many ‘tributes’ to Group B. This is by far one the best! Beautifully compiled and what gorgeous music!
Thank you...
if u wanna see more amazing group b footage, search "group b finland" and watch the video with the 205 in the thumbnail, it's excellent
The music ruins it. I want to hear the sound of the cars. Why add such crap music??
Yea except it's stolen and a music track played over another.
Here's the original with the original music track. th-cam.com/video/JG9yfutJ254/w-d-xo.html
@@Icemanrider1 ye dude really good job with the video ! epic footage great editing sound when it's needed in good balance with music :D good job !
Audi RS3: Pop Pop, did you have fun in the 80's?
S1 Quattro: Yes, my son.
THE EDITING, THE EDITING. I had the to pause it for a second, i've never seen a video so well done, you can feel strong nostalgia from a time you didn't even lived in, that's how crazy that vid is
Thank you very much..
Brilliant words!
GROUP B was a one in a life time experience, they (personally) were the most insane days of any Motorsport, some might disagree but wrc although technologically superior, but in terms of entertainment,health and safety virtually Zero, pure power without any restrictions like today's wrapped up in cotton wool society and the ability to touch the things (if you had the balls) the drivers having the balls to even drive the things like the S4 with the petrol tank under both driver+co arse plus the handling of one that was at times as controllable as a shopping trolley are far superior than today's wrc,the list is endless,anyway!
DON'T CRY BECAUSE IT'S OVER, SMILE BECAUSE IT HAPPENED.
The only Motorsport where a brick is faster than a Ferrari
Oh,rainbow six siege? Hey,im playing it too! And i dont know if group b cars will beat ferrari,maybe f430,in straight line the ferrari would won but in corners.... in corners group b cars will beat any cars that are allowed to drive on the street
Ferrari did a group b car actually, the 288 gto, but they banned the class before it was ready.
@@Your_nearest_toyota_dealer B group cars accelerated 0-100Kmh under 3 sec and 0-200 in like 10 seconds. Not many ferrari can do that even today
@@Shampsuli i dont know much about italian supercars
@@Your_nearest_toyota_dealer group b cars was 700kg and over 700hp+
6:42 the guys reaction says it all
It's because he saw Michele Mouton, not for the car !
6:40 to 6:50 give me the chills. The power and struggle to tame the beast! The spectators reaction says it all.
Blomqvist was amazing.He was champion this year 38 years old😁
@@kristerjonsson6028 Who is he? Some guys in the comments said that is Michelle Mouton.
4:42 - dear god, reaction, also says it all :)
@@moneytron4143 it was Mouton, Sanremo 1982, she won the race.
Ari vatanen Manx rally
the 80's was the golden age of the automobile and motorsports, we had group b, we had 253 mph le man cars that could match speeds of formula 1 cars, we had Senna, Prost, production cars could surpass 200 mph, we had the first production cars with carbon fiber, we had the worlds fastest car (197 mph Porsche 959) going to the Dakar rally and winning, we had the record breaking speeds at nascar shaving over 212 mph, we experienced the last days of rallying for Porsche, Lancia, Bmw and Audi, family cars would do 120 mph and it would be like nothing (bear in mind, 120 mph was the 80's equivalent to 160 mph which is fast for today's standards in my book), we had everything. why can't we have that again.
+Mechtech505 because safety, enviroment.... god i wish this times where back!!
me too man, me too. I loved the group c le man cars that could do 253+ mph. those kicked serious but
+Mechtech505 Baja 1000 are not that far from this...
well the Baja is more of rocky and sandy offroad, this is dirt trail rallying with drifting and smaller jumps, plus there are faster than baja
True, the crowd splitting while the cars pass by reminded me of it.
The music.. the lancia.. the audi... I cried
austindorf83 me 2
That's what you call drifting. On the edge omg fantastic drivers.
Divenire by Ludovico Einaudi is the song name.
austindorf83 those cars and the drivers who droved with the cars are legends.
Me 2 man
born too late to eperience this in person
but born just in right time to watch this and cry like little girl in front of screen lol
Same mate
Yeap. Same....
Same here.
In person, it was ridiculously fast and loud. Now, on youtube, it's still ridiculously fast and loud.
Frigging awesome though. RIP to the people who died and all. I still find it hard to enjoy motorsports today.
"WRC is for boys... Group B was for men"
Michèle Mouton: Suis-je une blague pour vous?
TRUE !!!
Audi was like : We are, no men !
Touring Car(Group A)
WRC is for boys... Group B for men... he was wrong, definitely wrong!!! Michele Mouton her driving and her eyes... Best in group B!
Et bordel, il en fallait une sacrée paire !!! Respect, Michèle !
Anyone else get goosebumps watching this?
Yes mate always do
ThatWhiteSTi
i think i just wet my pants a little... and the sound of these beast cars is pure music.
Juha was absolutely right.
ThatWhiteSTi I get tears, a lot of them
Makes me wish I was alive when they raced.
ThatWhiteSTi Im crying now ;p
I was born too late. I want to see Group B so bad. And now, It’s gone forever. Those cars were amazing, and they’re not made like this anymore. It brings a tear to my eye. Group B will always be remembered.
RIP Group B
Same, i am born too late too but i kbow for a fact, today cars are made through political crap regulations and market segments and shit.
back then cars were made with a passion
Same, in born in 2006. But at least i experienced the 2000s car culture. But I would give everything to go back in time, see a race in group b
You arent the only
Lucky to been born in Sweden, värmland i -67. The rally was just around the corner. And it was loud and fast with all the great drivers.
Who ever made this video clearly knows what rally is supposed to be. The group b rally was the ultimate test for car handling.Those times were amazing and should never be passed into legend. The Group b era must come back.
#Revive_the_golden_Group_B_Era
they really should, because technology advanced so much since we could probably have 2000+hp cars doing 0-60 in less than 1second and them having a 300mph+ top speed.
Its should not come back. It was to dangerous many people died and wiht all the safety that would be needed today grop b would just not be the same.
@@tiborfoldi6762 People die watching or driving what they love. If I was there I couldn't ask for a better way to go.
@@tinycockjock1967 I know that and I love it aswell but regulations happened and it was consiedered as to dangerous. I would LOVE to watch group B but it will never happen
I've lost count how many times I've watched this. This footage paired with this piece of music truly makes it as epic as the racing was. Genuinely makes my hairs stand on end. Bravo sir, bravo. The category may have gone, but stuff like this will make sure its never forgotten.
This is the greatest sport ever create because there were no regulations. It was about being brave and striving to push those cars to the limit. It wasn't about how fast your car is, it was how fast the driver was willing to go. Many drivers died in group b but we know they were willing to die because they loved the sport. It is a shame it only lasted three years but when we look back we will all know the greatest drivers came from group b rallying.
Couldn't agree more
Wrong use of words, no one was willing to die, sounds like suicide. They knew the risk, and were willing to take the risk. Only two drivers and one co driver died during the Group B World Rally period.
We don´t have drivers like this already
There were regulations, just less than nowadays, haha!
Viktoria plzen
Question to group b mechanic : is it twin turboed or super charged
Mechanic: YES
So underrated comment
mostly turbo in these cars with insane Anti-lag that destroyed the turbo by the end of the race
Yes. Lancia S4 was supercharged and turbocharged, right?
Lancia s4 both of them
I think what makes group b so legendary is that everyone was crazy.
From engineers designing such monsters to drivers driving those monsters while seeing spectators Infront of them running away not to get hit.
"Don't cry because it's over"
Smile because it happened!
The GREATEST DAYS of rallying and and I was fortunate to have witnessed it.
DEAR GOD!.
“Roll that sweet Group b footage!” - James from Donut.
I came here after watching that one.. Need the longer footage ya know
This is like watching a RIP video of a long lost friend.
Simonye Craig and it is
@@odenmonstertruck ☺️👍
1:47 that guy in the brown jacket literally had to jump to avoid getting his legs broken, those spectators were crazy...
he did it pretty well
I was looking for that comment! Crazy!
That was my first impression aswell. But in hindsight it could be an optical illusion that he was THAT close.
He probably jumped to avoid the dirt and small rocks. Still madness though, crazy spectators xD
Remember, the 80 and 90 were the last decades when men were real man:(
I come back here once every few years. It always hits me.
Same also bro👍
Now we are three
The audi quattro was one of the sexiest cars ever.
Nikdave97 for me nothing will beat the 037, the Quattro is nice to look at but the Lancias were just sheer perfection.
Quattro is porn for me but the Lancias are Adriana Lima going crazy on a beach for me, if you get the drift
Nikdave97 And so powerful too. How many bhp? 400 bhp or something?
aimps19 between 500 - 600 depending on which year
The sounds it makes are the sounds i make when i orgasm
When cars were cars and drivers were drivers.... A time long past. So sad... Racing in this age is not the same. I'm just happy I can watch video of this.
***** The drivers with the most skill, with the biggest balls and crazy enough to floor such powerful cars on a dusty road ... how not to love this?
True words! Respect!
+Andreallen4 Well, though, the sub-title of Group B being for "men" vs boys is a bit off, at least where Michelle Moulton is concerned! I would've loved to see what she could've done in a F-1 car...
NurNordschleife now its all about how well can a computer on wheels can keep you safe not how well a friver can drive like it used to be i miss group b
Cars back then weren't computerized they were real authentic amazing they had real steering so you could really get a feel for the cars and feel every bump of the road but now we have computerized steering and it just doesn't feel the same cars are bigger and heavier and have more wires running through them you get an Audi or BMW from today it just won't feel the same Cuzz now companies are aiming towards luxery you get a new Audi or BMW it will have crazy issues in 4 or 5 years cuz that's how technology is they are too complicated an not simple like they were back then
From now on... This is the best video I've ever seen... In my life
Thank you very much ..:)
Icemanrider1 your favourite group B car? my is Quattro or Delta S4
Yes, definitely Quattro and Lancia Delta S4 ...
Icemanrider1 I love Quattro sound
Icemanrider1 aha, já bych mohl psát česky :D
Unironically had my dad shed a tear at this. Hes 55 now. He watched group livr as a young man. Hard working european mechanii all his life, tough as nails and never seen him cry before. But this has made him break.
baddest drivers ever. balls of steel.
In my opinion, they had balls of TITANIUM to drive like that.
They're lucky to still have their titanium balls
hope their titanium ball didn't fuck up weight dispersal
good point
Nah mate they had carbon balls, gotta keep the weightreduction
This is some pure example of motorsport, combine it with formula one and you have the real definition of it. The 80's was, arguably, the best era of motor racing, just pure engineering, fire breathing monsters mixed up with smooth asphalt to bumpy gravel roads or even snow plus some mad drivers and you have something out of this world. This is the heaven for any petrol head out there!
I've never cried for any video about cars, but this one is heartbreaking :'(
This is my favorite video on TH-cam. Probably watch it 20 times a month and have been since 2018. It really captures the raw energy that rushed through the drivers, fans, and cars. Truly this is an extraordinary video that gets my heart racing and my mind inspired. Thanks for this!
This was the golden age of rally, too bad I wasn't even born when the era ended :(
+Peder Hansen true. But spec b has something about that makes it so.....special
Peder Hansen metro 6r4 could often reach above 200mph mechanic took therapy in between rallys as they often found4 blood,hair and fingers from spectators drivers got tunnel vision an audi A4 lost control and killed 6 spectators and the driver who broke his spine and the roll cages were aliminium light
thats what I call amazing shame I never seen it
Same
Today is much easier for drivers with all thier electronic aids . And yes the b spec had electronic aids, but much much simpler in comparison.
Peder Hansen its not about the times, listen to those sounds, no co2 emissions. Look at the crowd on the racetrack. It is group B rally, something else than just cars and good drivers, its the mixture of legendary cars and the pure love of motorsport from every single guy out there
"Racing is not a sport." - My soccer friend.
"Ha." - Me.
"There are only 3 sports: bullfighting, motor racing, & mountaineering; all the rest are merely games." - Ernest Hemingway.
+SkyplaneYT bullfighting is pathetic. i love it when the bull kills the fuck heads. nothing better
+Rusty Nugget Don't get on this guy's bad side!
+SkyplaneYT ;)
"Racing is more of a sport than soccer. Murica." Uncle Sam
more horsepower, more speed, better drivers, this is pure rally
People like you give me hope! :)
Good times, i cried watching this, i was 10 years old when i watched these gladiators on gravel in the Portugal rally in 85.The sound still rumbles inside, visceral. They were the best pilots ever🇵🇹🏁❤️
The Quattro S1 was such a beautiful beast...
Yeah, along with Lancia Delta S4 and the 037 Evo ! Best cars from the group.
But really the Quattro looks and sounds so good ;) good old cars. The new cars will not be the same
Don't cry because it's over, smile because it happened
~Dr Seuss
I wasnt gonna cry, but then i qent and read your comment
@@ReindeerD feelsbadman.jpg
It hurts my heart that when my son gets older he will never get the chance to admire these God's of rally!!!!
3:52 footage of a Lacia 037 hunting down his human prey (~1982, coloured)
Great comment, really reminds me a tiger jumping over his prey.
Greatest shot in the history of motorsports...
I wish group B would come back one day. I'll buy a ticket at any cost :')
you can see it for free my dude, no need for tickets
Watching a rally is free
Hey current wrc faster because as it turns out more control makes sense in gravel than dumping brute Force
@@Marc-zi4vg nope look at the hp buddy
Group B is 770hp and wrc today is 350
@@pitlanegreece based on the sources and forums I've looked up says that even 90s wrc cars are getting faster than group b cars and the main reason is that even though they have power, group b regulation says smol engine = smol tires and this contributed to why these group b cars are so hard to drive, mean while wrc and beyond the 90s saw the tire size to be same for everyone while providing greater grip than their beastly predecessor combined with maneagble amounts of power so in turn faster time in stages. Raw power doesn't mean faster if over all the driver can't control it well, in the narrow and slippery rally stages, group b cars are sledgehammers while what came after that are precision tools for comparison...
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And oh yeah they bumped the power now to 385 recently so we're getting back there.
Music - beautiful
Editing - amazing
Subject - legendary
I remember being at Clumber Park in Nottinghamshire watching these fire breathing monsters, on one section of road there was a Rover SD1 cop car with four traffic coppers sat on the bonnet, they wasn't there to keep the peace or nab speeding rally cars, but had a speed laser speed gun on loan from the USA and was 'testing it out', I watched a copper point the gun at a 6R4 coming around one corner, the gun recorded some 80mph, then within 200 metres the gun was reading some 148mph.....The look on the coppers faces was pure excitement.
RIP Henri Toivonen, you will be forever in our hearts.
6:43 is just the best scene ever
B E (A) S T
I think the scene of 6:30 is even more beautiful
@@mullerman1104 yes
Legend Michele Mouton.
Blomqvist is/was amazingAnd Waldegård too
These people knew full well they could die while doing this and they still raced
These people were probably scared out of their balls but i dont think any other thrill can get close
They are the real drivers. Unlike todays that is assisted by technology. And people still believe they are best driver than the drivers in this video.
Imagine what they were thinking when they drove so fast passing all these hundreds of people and feared that with just one little mistake it could end up in mass murder by accident.
They still spectate.
@@IhateMTVandVIVA who would be responsable tho ?
*First guy:* I won a fist fight against Satan, two times.
*Second guy* I sat on the sun for 32 weeks straight with no water
*Rally Driver:* I'm a group B driver...
*(First two guys get on their knees and praise him)*
DaRealCarlos \ Bouncer: How tough are yah? Group B driver: I raced in Group B... Bouncer: R-right this way sir!
Best comme t
The group B rally driver was Henry Toivonen. The first guy was Chuck Norris. Second Guy was Jesus. Jesus is now taking racing lessons from Henry. Chuck is still learning to drive with the rest of them.
Wow, I didn’t know it was like this within group b,blame it on being from America,i certainly recall all the references regarding group b as i read car and driver all those years...i cant wait to dive into the history of these cars and drivers..mike sr.
Made me laugh, thank u! I needed this!
I love this video because it shows how alive and passionate people were in the 80s, as opposed to today's numbness.
Yes, some people got hurt or lost their lives but they were ALIVE.
The drivers were loony but the spectatators were insane.
And the press photographers (who stood in the middle of the road to get a shot of an oncoming car and jumped out of the way at the last second, you can see them in the first minute).
AMAZING the drivers had balls the spectators had balls, everyone had balls in those days.
Jack T the cars had balls
You NEED to have balls to become a spectator, which most people don't have today 😪
Today there are barely some people with balls. Most are jus whiny oversensible pathetic freaks who dont want others to have fun because they themselves are too afraid of any fun.
@@egorence2149 😆😆😆
The Spectators had balls but they didn't have common sense
Old cars are the souls of men !
Beautiful machines and incredible amount of skill on board. Much respect.
In my humble opinion these are the greatest drivers of them all
@@benward1347 agreed
Imagine group B still existing until now with new technology, faster cars.. it was too beautiful and dangerous to exist in this world
Ver It would be way to dangerous
It's better back then I think.
WRC is for boys...
Group B is for men....
Hell yeah....
Jesus isn't a real person so he can't be a racing driver... 😁
These days the cars are great, the drivers are great. That's for sure...
In the old days the cars are monsters and the drivers were gods....
***** well mcrae raced at dakar too so...
his not wrc only
not sure about loeb tough
and one woman: Michelle Mouton :)
tigersharkot indeed
cant forget her
***** The magic is gone, thats all
This......is........just..............beautiful.
It's the send off Group B never got.
0:55
Wow, moments captured in time.
The stage was set. From the tires, engines, cars, people, drivers. To get a moment of Group B supercars hurdling down a road. It's such a blessing that we have this footage of these cars and drivers in their hayday. Though not there now, at one point in time all these things came together in a scene, captured in video and are like memories from another era. Photos and videos are amazing, you can capture the look/"aesthetic"/feel/memory/experience of a certain point in time, and pass it on to those who haven't been there and experienced it.
RIP everyone who died because of Group B.
The sport that truly puts everything on line. Including the life of their fans on every turns and corners. I missed this sport so much.
Damn! that Audi sounds like a raging monster!!
McCannon21 what do you expect? It has a 2.5 liter turboed inline 5
4:40 dear God moment😳🙏
2024 anyone?
100% best drivers ever!
27.04.2024❤
01/05/2024 ❤
Oh yeah
10-12-2077
My lord. The skill these drivers had is beyond measurable accompanied by nerves of steel, focus of a monk & balls of a tiger. They would drive circles around today's F1 so called "champions"
God damn spectators killed it. In the clip, the cars barely missed them by inches on several occasions. We humans always find a way to kill something beautiful. Fuck this gay earth.
I agree with everything you say except the gay earth part because people go out with other the opposite gender and if the world was gay there would be no such thing as children.
Crazy how these drivers can even tell where the track is with all of these people blocking the road. Super human.
If group B is for men and wrc is for boys, then f1 is for infants and nascar is for newborns.
*grabs popcorn*
+khairi1601 Pretty on point imo but where does IOMTT sit?
+Martin Angelov The TT is the last bastion of shit like this. May it live forever.
+khairi1601
Winner comment of the day!
+HeFilmsTheClouds yes you sir are right. TT for life-I once heard those bikes have hollow seats so the bikers can put their big cohonas.
+khairi1601 80's Formula 1 was also for men
Thank you for the guys who left these legend video footage to me.
-A boy born in 2002
When Peugeot made good cars, and not Japanese rip-offs.
+rob poynter * cough * Its not as if they *won this years Rally Dakar*... They had a few lazy years, but they're on their way to former greatness (i hope)
+Paul S.
yeah they seem to be trying. the dark days seem to be behind.
They also broke the pikes peak hill climb record last year.
yep, I almost forgot about that. Sébastien Loeb beat the old record by 1 and a half minutes
+afa1515 Oh Lancia.
Ahh...times eheän Audi Quattro ment something special... Nowdays it's nothing special if you have modern quattros, even my mom, 64 yrs, have one :D
I think that in 800 years when man has become immortal, he will decorate his home with framed photos of Group B rally... And say can you imagine not knowing you were going to live forever and behaving in this way?
J Clar soooo true man
Damn.
👏
You mean knowing you were not going to live forever?
@@blitzy3244 I believe that's What I meant that day because I believe we are going to be Immortal in the not too distant future
6:42 Never, ever has there been a machine that seemed more to be alive. It's screaming like a beast. One can really feel what this dude here must feel… And by the way @Icemanrider1 Nice cutting and sounds!
Man, I saw your comment and saw it in the video, Your words are so true, that guy must be in paradise
+Martin Bettler The quattro's engine was unique, that's for sure, but I still believe cars like the 037 and the 205 T16 had more soulful sounds.
@@M2orNot All people loves audi in B group because it sound best of all these cars...
If your 40+,yrs and had your eye's closed ,you would still recognize the sound of that five cylinder,
5 cylinders, 4 wheels, 3 pedals, 2 feet, 1 driver, the essence of quattro, the mark of group B
Crazy drivers and crazy fans!
Wonder how many fans lost there fingers during group B era
Vanila Kung Yeah body, what a disgrace for they wifes.
Thank you for making this incredible video. I got goosebumps watching it. It took me back 30+ years to being a kid again, experiencing what was and is the greatest motorsport of all time. Made me quite emotional actually.
Just brilliant.
This is so raw, so pure nostalgia. These Cars, the Sound, the Tracks. Insane
This was Life! This was War! i get goosbumbs and tears in my eyes watching this. These were my heroes . This makes my heart bleed. Precision , Teamwork , a life full of dedication, this was everything!
Geht mir genauso. Eine irre Zeit. Leider gibt es das nie wieder. Irgendwie wird gefühlt alles nur noch schlechter...
the letter B stands for badassery
B now stands for a phrase. It means : Bring those demons back!
Hanif Purbaya group bae
bravery
Balls
This is the most beautiful thing I’ve ever watched
This is the most beautiful thing I have ever seen.
I wish I could have been there standing on the sides and watch the cars thunder by and hear the power of the engines making the ground shake.
Group B forever.
For those of us that were lucky enough to actually see these group b monsters it was a magical time in rallying and will never,ever be forgotten
Lancia got shit when it left rallying.
Yes! You Are right
In the UK it's sad - they gave up after the Delta and withdrew to the continent, never to return. It's like they finally built a practical and very fast hot hatch that didn't rust, but it was too late.
Mikael K Its amazing history...
only car i liked after their rally days was the Thema 8.32 with the Ferrari V8
***** For me it would be the 1972 Lancia Beta Coupe, I know it rusts like a shipwreck but I live in the desert
This brings on the tiers.
Vary well done tribute awesome clips and editing and the score sets the mood vary well.
I am crying when I see those pictures.... RIP my dad who brought me to love motorsport. RIP Group B. If I could go back to the good old times....
i bet he is watching from heaven group b races all over again
19 year old boy over here who wishes he had lived in that era, because everything was more romantic, more unique, more powerfull, more beatiful. The cars had their own character one by one! The drivers were something more than heroes. Damn... No I'm not crying, you crying 😥
6:42 BRAAAaaaapapaPAPAPap... PAP... pap... BRAAaaaaaa
5 cyl :3
BRUmmrmnrmmrnmrnbm... BA..BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
thanks for making my life with that timing C:
LOLOLOL U SPEECH MY SPREECH !!!!
TRUE STORY BRAAAAPPAPAPPPPPAAA.....PAAA..BRAPAAAAA
Where is this?
This is one of the best videos about rally on youtube!!!!
Just madness. Madness on track. Madness beside track. Mad spectators. Mad drivers. Mad cars. Madness over all. Hard to believe that this really happens. Not so many years ago. In Formula 1 they now use "halo" these days...what will be next ? Mud flaps to avoid spray...?
Group B was for MEN....so real....
goldi2503 I’m also amazed by these drivers. Serious question: How did one learn how to drive with the foot technique that is used for this type of racing? I get the karting training for F1, but this is otherworldly.
@Gp2 Engine That's a very sterile view of the world. There is an element of danger in anything worth doing, and managing that danger in a way that is acceptable to you is part of doing it. What would motorcycling be without the morbid thrill in the back of your mind that you were a mere inches from disaster at every second? Part of why these men are so legendary - Group B, classic Grand Prix, is that they pushed their abilities and their machines to the very limits of their capabilities. It's thrilling to watch an aerobatic pilot enter a flat spin because you are watching someone dancing with a machine that they have taken the time to get to know as a lover, and they are dancing with that machine on a knife's edge. Not trying to be snarky, but if you want safe motorsports, then e-racing is what you're after. But for some the thrill of flirting with disaster calls too loud to ignore. They raced Group B. They ride the Isle of Man. They fly the Extra 300.
Gp2 Engine I’m in the process of building a vintage road race inspired Corvette, so I think your Audi project is cool. Ultimately though, isn’t the choice of whether danger is acceptable up to those involved? Nobody forced the drivers to race. Nobody forced the spectators to stand in the road and on the shoulder. I don’t think we should be wantonly dangerous. I pull triple digit speeds on a bike sometimes. I’m not doing that in my skivvies. So I’m not advocating throwing caution to the wind but there is a gain in doing things that are inherently unsafe, and that is testing oneself and one’s mettle. I’m guessing that you’re British, but I’m sure you’re familiar with American Football. One of my favorite sports and I played for years. If we had a rugby league around me I’d probably look into going out for a team there. Both of those sports are admittedly dangerous, but that’s part of the allure. That danger teaches you about yourself and where your own limits are. That’s why Group B is wonderful. There’s nothing glamorous about a driver and navigator burning to death in a car at the bottom of a bluff. But there is something glamorous about two men getting into a wild machine where they know death is a possibility and trying to tame that machine better than any others can.
And now we have engines like 1.6 L turbocharged Hyundai i20.
My dad was seriously ill, every time he got borred we were watching videos like this with crazy group B rally cars, he was huge automotive fan, put his whole life in to repairing, tuning, driving like god and selling cars, in wild 90's he owned Audi 90 coupe quattro and later he was forced to sell it and he regretted it every day since then, I wanted to gift him coupe quattro, but now it's too late
I miss you every day dad, thanks for everything, true rally fan, loved father and trusted friend
Gourp B was for men, and Michelle Mouton. haha. Golden age of rally.
As a 16 year old who wants the Group B era back, I never expected a woman to drive there. I want those unforgiving demons back.
We thinked that in the future the cars would fly, and didnt knew that the cars already where flying in those rally events, is sad that this era has ended, but we can remember it as the best motorsport era in the history
Too dangerous, It's fun but the driver himself is already frustrated
And in the end this era ended badly due to a serious accident😥
2:57 that Scandinavian flick man pure skill!!
I Must say this is probably the best selfmade youtube video ive ever seen..... thank you for this joy, i wish id been able to see it myself
Lancia Delta was the Beast!
HISPEEDLEVEL
La Peugeot 205!!
HISPEEDLEVEL Yes it was but if you remember what happened in corsica 1986, it was right decision to move different cars because drivers safety is always the priority but seems like not then. But yeah those cars were beasts peugeot, toyota, lancia, audi for example. I'm sure that Henri would win at least 3 titles if that accident will never happened but life is unfair and we learn from mistakes and become stronger
max27stoner except henri he didnt become stronger
im sorry
TomaattiTurska Niinpä
Tears of joy in my eyes there is something special about speed and raceing that not many people understand and trully feel it in their soul respect for all Group B drivers peace!
2:22
This is how fingers/hands where found in/on the Group B cars
yup haha