I almost didn't click on this video. Very glad I did. This things looks incredibly exciting. It's great to see a serious manufacturer going this direction and the price is nuts.
@@LoyalMoses Thank YOU for the no-nonsense review. I reached out to QIDI. I NEED to be testing one of these with some exotic filaments for the functional parts I do.
@@FunctionalPrintFriday QIDI for sure needs to send you one. Your A1 review was one of the main reasons I invested in the A1 series. And of course your functional prints and thought process. Keep it up!
I would definitely consider this over my P1S for two reasons. The 9mm belt and the heated chamber. Just needs that MMU and Bambu Lab will have to respond with a better printer. Which is great for everyone!
I have a QIDI X PLUS 3. I have to say in the beginning I had several problems with it, but I was impressed with the way QIDI handled those issues. After replacing several components that they sent me along with links to TH-cam videos showing how to properly dismantle the machine for part replacement. Since then I haven’t had any issues. I think you do a great job with the reviews, and I’m glad to see QIDI moving in this direction. I’m looking to get another machine, I had considered an x1carbon but now I’m looking at the QIDI Thanks Jules
I've been looking at all kinds of reviews on many different 3D printers until I couldn't stay up each night until 2AM captivated by so many reviews with the Pluses and Negatives of all these 3D printers. Got to the point where I was over it and didn't find something that struck me at 100%. Each printer was missing one important thing or another, UNTIL I came across your video and ordered the New QIDI PLUS 4. I'm happy that QIDI finally has handled and remove the manual Z adjustment of the printer head, where I have seen in reviews that it's a great 3D printer but, you have to do this adjustment manually each and everything you want to print a new part. That's what kept me from purchasing the QIDI 3D printers. Great video and can't wait to get my hand on this one. Have a few things already I need to print out for my products and concepts. Cheers!
Bambu has been super hush on their upcoming XL project...Bambu will need to meet a lot of feature expectations, along with price expectations. Even Creality got their bum in gear with their K1 series. This QIDI clearly outperforms a P1S at a very similar price point. Hopefully we get a new Bambu printer along with reduced Bambu prices soon!
I know a tiny bit about one of Bambu's upcoming flagships from a mate of mine who got sent one to test, however that will like cost quite a bit more then the Plus 4, and they're still having people test it. For the time being Plus 4 looks lile it will be a go to. They really need to make a P2 series
@@LoyalMoses Bambu has such a great consistency reputation. They are billed as “just works”. I am unfamiliar with Qidi for the most part. For about a month I have been trying to decide on purchasing the X1C, or waiting on a larger format X1C release later. Where would this printer for into that consideration?
If I could have a printer at home this would probably be the one I would buy. Mostly I design and make parts for adapting large format film cameras. My next project would be a camera back the takes 8x10 inch film. The parts are wide and deep, but not tall. They must be absolutely flat. Ideally you could use it in the sun and keep it in the trunk of a car without worrying about warping. The only additional feature I could use would be a second extruder to lay down a contrasting support material so that I could get clean, flat and accurate overhangs. That would greatly simplify part design.
I received a new Bambu P1S this week and although I am very happy with this printer I will probably end up buying the QIDI PLUS4 very soon so that I can try out some of those high temp, strong filaments. I like the larger build volume. Congrats to QIDI on putting out such a great product at such a great price.
Oooooh!! I got the x max 3 on SUPER sale and JUST printed my first print last night. I’m drooling over your spool supply bc I neeeeed it, lmao. I’m So addicted now, lol. Great video and thank you!!! ❤
Thank you Loyal Moses! You took the time to answer my question (about which printer to purchase) in-depth during your Twitch stream. I was very impressed with the way you did it. You mentioned the benefits to each printer and which sort of person/creator would be a good match for each. I hope you're enjoying the Roadtrip!
It is definitely impressive. I’m always stuck in that loop of saying should I wait and see what the next new exciting printer is or buy something right now that is really out. I mean if you wait, you may never buy a printer because the “new one is coming soon” and if you purchase now you’re might miss out on the new and exciting printer that “changes the printing industry” and if you don’t pre-order that printer now you may not get your hands on it for another 6 to 8 months or worse you get it much sooner than expected but the printer is full of bugs and you spend the next few months or longer basically beta testing a printer that should not have been released yet. Would I like to have that new QIDI printer over a couple of the ones I have now, absolutely, but I like the printers I have now and they work great but they can’t hold a candle to the new QIDI. I do envy you sometimes, being able to get your hands on all the latest 3d printers and printer tech far ahead of everybody else. I know I get stuck in this loops of “can’t make a decision”. I don’t have loads of cash laying around to purchase them all (I wish). I want my money spent the best I can and get the most from it as I think most people do. I do really enjoy this hobby and seeing all the new and exciting things coming out and know that it is pushing the hobby forward which is fantastic. I like that you don’t do the whole “I have to find something wrong with this printer” thing. I mean anybody can do that and nitpick. If people knew you then they would already know that even though you don’t bad mouth any company or printer you also don’t hide any shortcomings if so deserved to be mentioned. It’s so subjective sometimes what some consider a negative. As always I enjoyed the video and I am excited to maybe get to see some more from this printer. : )
I know it sure is, what an amazing machine - totally blew away my expectations. I know that struggle is real, you summed it up perfectly well - you just have to jump in and start printing, otherwise you'll be sitting on the sidelines watching everyone else do all of the cool stuff. I think you have an amazing lineup of machines, that is nothing to be sad about for sure! Getting all of the machines is a curse too, sometimes I lose the complete interest in 3D printing because I don't get to enjoy it anymore - it sometimes feels like I am just printing to look for problems instead of printing to be excited about the results. I think you are like most people, you want your money to bring the most amount of value and joy in this hobby -- which lately, is getting easier to do. There are so many amazing and new machines, and I think it will only get better, so even if you don't get a new machine this month or next, just hang on, because the ones right around the corner will be even better. And I appreciate that... I don't like to just pick random things to fein concern over - I really want people to see the machine for what it is, the total package including the user experience and to ignore or look past the petty little things that some people can get hung up over. Side story -- it reminds me of people who pass on buying a home because they didn't like the color of the walls or carpet. YOU CAN PAINT AND REPLACE CARPET, WHY ARE YOU PASSING ON THAT HOUSE!? I appreciate you a lot and this comment I saved until last while I was catching up just now so I could have the time to sit at the computer and give you the respect you deserve! Thank you for this. 💜
This is exciting. I'm considering getting into 3D printing for myself and for my homeschooled kids to do engineering. I was considering something between entry-level (sub $200) upto bambu A1 price range. But this makes me consider finding a way to extend my budget. Particularly as its gonna be in a cold room, so I'm going to need a good enclosure / heating setup, so having that built in is a great start.
I have the P1S and A1 and love them, but after watching this video I'm really interested in adding this printer to my collection. Thanks LM, awesome video.
This feels like a big swing at the X1C from Qidi. Sleek all-in-one design, but a helmet-class build size, and apparently nice quality in the finished prints. And it's the price of a P1S. That's just crazy. Definitely have to keep my eye on this one. If an XL printer from Bambu drops anytime soon, it would be interesting to see these two machines go head to head. Really good to see other companies producing nice quality printers to compete in the space, particularly since the Bambu P1S/P1P and X1C dropped and kind of changed the landscape of FDM printing.
I will definitely have a comparison video for sure when I can compare these machines head to head! I love that we are getting so many amazing new machines.
I have the X-Max 3 and it's a phenomenal printer. It's pretty awesome to see how well polished the Plus 4 is because they both share a lot of DNA. I'm a little bummed out that we X-Max 3 users may not be able to upgrade it to have some of these features when their Qidi Box comes out. It makes me wonder what the X-Max 4 will look like haha! Honestly if I didn't have my X-Max 3 right now, i'd totally buy the Plus 4. It's pretty much exactly everything I wanted the Q1 Pro to be (larger build volume) - I'm team Qidi and keep rooting for them!
Yes! I just bought my X-Max 3 last month and if I hadn't, I'd probably get the Plus 4, even though it doesn't have as big a build volume. And if they come out with an X-Max 4, I'll definitely be looking to trade up! I'm very impressed with my Max 3 so far and with what Qidi's doing at their price points.
Hi Loyal Moses, thanks for this amazing review as usual. Your channel is one of the best ones out there on TH-cam. You have the perfect mix of charisma, knowledge and integrity that we all love. I'm also impressed at how you take the time to give great responses to your followers' comments despite having so many of us. Keep up the great work.
These are very kind words! Thank you so much! I really do love to chat with everyone in the community, there are so many amazing people sharing this awesome passion!
Did you post process that helmet? Sand, paint, etc? Because it looks amazing. This is insane. That is like what you would get from liquid resin DLP printers. I can't even imagine how much that would cost with resin. The price is simply ridiculously cheap for the quality you get and the print quality. I will get one when I can. Shocked. Damn you. I knew I shouldn't have clicked on this video. Now I am going to be down $800.
I have only had the Qidi Max 3 for about 3 months. Now i admit at first was a hard start, First it had software crash. restarted printer then firmware was not matching with the MCU (reflash) then screen started showing lines on screen Qidi was quick and nice about replacing, then filament sensor took a dump. overall was easy to repair qidi had no issues sending me parts. bed leveling on this thing is perfect every time, bridging capabilities are amazing (my first enclosed printer) the quality im pulling out of my Max 3 is amazing parts feel strong, no layer lines. perfect profiles. My Qidi Max 3 is my fav printer. Pursa Mk2s, CR-10S, CR-10S Pro, CR-10S Pro, ender 3, Qidi Max 3, SV08. 3d printer bug got me...
What a machine! This will be on my radar if I need to get into the higher end filaments. Really enjoying the Qidi Q1 Pro so far. Great video as usual , keep them coming! 🎉
Based on your and other's review I ordered the Unit. Did not get a good start. The fan on the left is attached with a screw in a post formed in the panel, it broke in shipping preventing the build plate from moving up and down during the first power cycle. The Web site's instructions for updating its firmware have yet to work. Yes, this is my day one impression, and I will see how customer support works out.
OH NO! Was there any damage to the box from shipping?! As for firmware, is yours network connected? I just updated the firmware through the interface over the air. I sure hope support gets you squared away, they are known for taking care of customers.
Was going to buy a qidi q1 pro then I saw this and changed my mind instantly. I print with almost exclusivly abs, asa, and pa12 nylon. This will be a much needed upgrade for what i do. Before looking at the q1 pro i was looking at the bambu x1e but that was a bit out of my budget for 1 printer. Cant wait to see what filaments i can print with 370c nozzle temp.
well all the same filaments you can print at 350 pps rolls all say max recomended printing temp 350c the next high temp filaments take 400c and higher to print so this thing a cutter and is 25mm bigger then an xplus3 20 degree higher nozzle temp makes legit no difference in what it can print so a cutter and 25mm bigger build plate for 200 dollars more
My only 3D printing experience comes from my Ender 3 (og version) and about a years' worth of printing terrain and miniatures. Its veen sitting dormant now for a few years but I recently stumbled across the multi filament Bambu and became interested once again. Been playing catch up on all the advancements both in hardware and filaments. Crazy how much things have changed... This printer looks simply amazing. I've been debating which Bambu to buy, but now I feel like I need to wait just a bit. I'm in no special hurry. Thank you for bringing us all this information! I'm paying attention and getting myself geared up to get back in the FDM game!
Opinions on #1 Out of Box Beginner Use, #2 Quality of each print when printing over and over and handling ABS/ Carbon Fiber filament while maintaining quality of print, and Value Compared to Qidi X-Plus 3, Bambu X1C & P1S. With Prices dropping on the x-plus 3 and p1s/X1C Its really good to know value and quality vs those 2. Thanks
Can you swap out the nozzles for different sizes, if so, easily>? Do you need to do when switching from say PLA to abs for instance (will the abs create issues or wear on a nozzle from temp changes), so change the nozzle for those)?
Filament is the big cost now, however there is a wide choice available. Injection molding pellets are cheaper. This printer has so many applications and looks simple to use. Bambu has shaken the market up and these are now appliances that can be used at home. Imagine your personal Tesla bot using one to upgrade itself or fix a broken part.
@@LoyalMoses Speaking of open, how is the software toolchain for this thing? Which slicer, and does it come with good printer management software? It's nice to see affordable, turn-key machines from manufacturers other than Bambu (not a huge fan of them and their business model)
@@kaasmeester5903I’m new to the world of printing. Was looking to buy an XC1. Waiting for a special. I have a number of things I’ve wanted to prototype over the last few years and been waiting for a more plug and play printer. And better material development. The XC1 seems to tick all those boxes and have a massive user support base? I’m still in the research phase. What is it that Bambu labs frustrates you with regard to the business model? This Qidi seems very compelling to me. But there isn’t nearly as much online about it compared to Bambu. That concerns me.
@@kaasmeester5903looks like a fork of prusaslicer. Everyone hating on bambu for doing so well and pushing all the other manufacturers to innovate 🤦🏻♂️
@@kaasmeester5903 it runs on the latest version of klipper and has a fluid interface and you can manage the printer through the qidi app. For what it is in my opinion you cant get much better for remote management. The best part about it using klipper you can use any klipper remote management software or moblie apps. Qidi has there own fork of prusa slicer kniwn as qidi slicer but i bet if there is not orca slicer profiles already then someone will make one. It is not super hard to make a custom profile for your slicer of choice. I dont ow. A qidi machine yet but i have used some of there printers in the past and had a pleasent experience with there slicer.
Definitely an impressive machine. I have heard if you print a tall model and the platform moves right to the bottom of the chamber it will block the intake of the heater and it will overheat and shut down the print (which would be painful right at the end of a long print). Other than some minor quibbles looks pretty solid.
THIS may be the one! Been wanting to upgrade to a newer high temp printer. From my CR10v2, Ender3. After your review I thought this would be out of budget expensive, but Wow...
This is one to watch I've been wanting the X1C with ASA for a while now, so I might stand by and see how this machine works out for everyone. Read so many bad reports on the Max3 I'm reluctant to spring for the Plus4 right now.
I’ve gotten a lot of comments about the Max 3 as well. I never got to use one, just the Plus 3, Q1 Pro and the Plus4. It’s interesting that there can be so much difference between what we would think are just the same printers, only one is larger.
I love my Qidi X1 Pro and Xsmart3 they just run great. This new model will be added to my shop. Been waiting for it's arrival! If you have not tried it yet, try out Qidi Nylon also, think it is nylon gf or CF. I use the ABS GF from them all the time and PETCF. Their top of line nylon though is my favorite material, just prints incredible in the heated chamber. Looking forward to this purchase, trying not to hit buy this evening.....I like the look of new heated nozzle and blower design. Many bonuses in this model, think they easily give Bambu labs a run for their money, and price difference is huge. Qidi listens to buyers and makes quick adjustments to models based on customer feedback, changes quickly get added to their production runs when needed or suggested. This time it looks like they hit a true homerun. The high temp nozzle and heated chamber make a huge difference. I run mostly engineering grade type filaments all the time in my Q1, having that heated chamber makes a huge difference on final quality. I think Bambu with heater runs around $2400.
I was close to buying a Qidi but went with the Bambu X1C, however with all these features and size to print large items like helmets without slicing in pieces I might add one to my workshop for that price
Feedback that they should include an extra, longer reverse bowden for those who perhaps are farming, to give more spool mounting options out-of-box. Or a longer stock piece so it sticks out enough to add a union.
I'm a huge bambu fan (6 bambu printers in my house), but this is quite impressive. I'll check out some other reviews to see if there's any quirks to it, but this really looks a great deal at $800 considering what you get.
I was just about to order the XMAX3 today and seen this in my feed! Holy cow! Will have to arrange an order for this one first thing on Monday for my company!!!!!
@@LoyalMoses Managed to get a hold of one and ordered it! Estimated delivery is 19th of November... Holy smokes! This thing is either in crazy demand or there are so few of them around.
I have the QIDI X-Max3 and right now it sitting on the floor in a spare room. It has had several problems (it had problems from day one) and the last one, the magnetic pad on the print bed pulled partly up after a print to removed the print - I had waited over 1 hour before It try to remove it. I never been able to get it to print well again (I mostly print using PLA/PETG filament wanted to try some of the more advance filaments like ASA or CF stuff at some point too). I work with the QIDI on the other issues I had with it (they have really good support) and they where very helpfully, but there nothing I can do to get it to print level across the entire bed, the Z-axis offset just never worked evenly across the print bed. It feels like the printer bed is warped in certain areas. I have replace the magnetic pad which came up way to easy in multi areas and hard in other areas. I have bought replace hot ends, extrudes, nozzles, PEI plates, etc. for it. It has become a money pit and I have given up. I have tried to fix it but its just not worth it any more. I tried for over 3 months to get it to print well again. Every time I think I have it, it works fine for one or two prints than I have many failed prints - always in certain areas of the print bed. I just cannot bring myself to purchase another QIDI print even though this one sound really good. Nothing against QIDI, they been great trying to support me, just my bad luck - as a good friend of mine whose know me for over 25 year put it recently, you should try good luck sometime in place of your bad luck. So it a hard pass for me on it I wait and see what Bambu Labs comes up with. I would like at least one 3D print to just work and one I do not tinker with. Yes I tinker with 3d Printers quiet a bit. The QIDI X-Max 3 was suppose to be the always just works/never tinker with printer for me. :( 3D Print has become my new hobby I really enjoy. I have always like building my own computers and water cooling them but now 3D Printing has replace that. I find it very fun and yes frustrating at times but I like the challenge of 3D Printing (the technical stuff for 3D Printing - I am in no way a model designer, not even close).
Oh man, I didn’t enjoy reading this! I hate seeing bad experiences, and I always wish I could fix the problem or help in some way. Sorry that you have a giant helmet class 3D printer that just can print! I wonder if there is a place you can take it to have it looked at / repaired?!
@@LoyalMoses Thank you for you reply to my post. I work in IT at a universality and one of the folks I work with know a lot about 3D Printing, he offer to help me with it (2nd pair of eyes sort of thing). I do not think I miss anything but having some one else take a look is worth the effort. However, it will be a while before I can do that as I not at work because I am recovering from surgery and have another surgery schedule for early October, so it will be some time before I can take him up on his offer of help. I still think the new QIDI print is really good and a shot across Bambu Labs bow. It seems to so far have a lot to go for it thought I wish it where closer to 350mm size printer. Also, an idea for a future video, maybe you could go over the process to print with some of the more advance filaments like TPU, ASA/ABS or CF type stuff. A nice how to with what to watch out for and recommends? Plus factors/reason you might want to use those filaments. I never used them myself and the possible health issue are spooky to me so it be nice to see what your advice/recommendation are. I enjoy you videos on 3D Printing, you never nit pick on things, you cover the pros and cons with recommendation as to what it can be used for and not for but also how you like to see it improve.
Sorry that happened to you. I would contact them. I have the X Max 3, and it hasn’t had a single issue. That machine alone has me addicted to Qidi. I’m just happy to hear the AMS direction they are going so I don’t have to buy the Bamboo. Don’t get me wrong, the Bamboo is perfect, but I have brand loyalty, and you can’t beat the specs on this one!
@@makerbit3970 Same here, I bought an X-Max 3 last month and I've been printing on it nonstop since getting it. So far in almost 50 prints I haven't had one print failure or any major problems. The only downside is the poor design decision to locate the sealed spool holder at the rear of the printer, which makes it more difficult to change spools. But there are models out there for external spool-holders if you want to change that. I own other FDM and SLA printers and this has become my go-to. It's not perfect, but it's the most reliable and fastest one I own. And for such a big build volume and a heated chamber at its price, it's great. It sucks that the OP is having so many problems with his - my sympathies. It sounds like he, unfortunately, got a lemon. It happens, it's happened to me before too with other printers. But it's evidently not a systemic problem with their X-Max 3 line, and more just a one-off, "bad apple" situation.
The Plus4 sounds great, especially for the price, but I will have to wait for the AMS to come out. Hopefully it will be out soon. I was originally considering a K1 MAX and was waiting for its AMS "to come out this year". Creality better hurry. They have less than 60 days. I also need to see the smoke clear (pun intended) on the Plus4's chamber heater SCR over heating problem.
Wow an amazing machine and an amazing price point! Qidi has really been turning out some great products! Great for us, thanks for sharing a great review w us..
My 1st real high speed printer is the Flash Forge 5m which am very happy with in the price per value. This also looks like very good price per value if you are looking to get into exotic filament. I will be putting this on my list. Was going to get another 5m, but this might a very good addition as well.
The only QIDI printer I've used was a flashforge clone and it was a pretty bad experience. I never got a successful print off of it because it turned out one of the main rods was bent. Ended up throwing it in the dump because I had no means of fixing it and it was out of the return window. Surprised to see that they're putting out such impressive hardware now.
The X1 I would rate around a 8 or 9 out of all 3D printers, the build quality and experience are the best we’ve ever seen. The PLUS 4 is what I would consider one notch less than this, the experience is great, just not Bambu level and the MMU option isn’t here yet for multi-color, but it is coming Q1 of next year. But that PLUS 4 has that chamber heater, and hotend which are amazing! 🔥
For print farms this is could be an awesome machine, their Q1 Pro was already a good entry for smaller businesses to offer making parts in more heavy duty materials but this one now will solidify it. I was eyeing the HT90 but this one could probably be the gateway printer to industrial materials. I've been hearing people say that the next step for the consumer 3D printer industry is moving the mark about what "high temperature" is exactly, not long before 300C was advertised as high temp, won't be surprised if in a year or two 500C will become standard practice at the consumer level
Seems I’d need to buy one lol. I have been wanting something other than a Bambu and bigger build volume to try printing more exotic materials. The price point can’t be beat for this.
You know how scary it is… you start printing on these machines before anyone else, and the experience is going so well, and you are so afraid of a problem ruining the whole thing… that helmet came out so perfect, without even trying, I was so happy! Pausing and resuming in the middle and it just continued exactly like it should. Amazing machine!
Just ordered one up, my other Qidi's needed some friends. Looking forward to it's arrival. I will need to find a new table to put this one on, it looks quite big, I don't think bench I have is deep enough for it to fit, may have to go on my desk. This puts serious price pressure on Bambu Labs, and one also gains the heated chamber for almost 3.5 times less than Bambu comparable. I love the support Qidi gives customers, they shipping me filament sensor for my Q1. They announced the color changer AMS Unit for first quarter 2025.
@@LoyalMoses Arrived yesterday had one minor issue kept shutting down when did autolevel, second the bed heater turned on. Found was shipped set 230 even though power button label had 110-130 on it. I usually check setting, no biggie thing has been running flawless nearly 22 hrs now! I am printing some pf Qidi ABS25 GF at moment batch of 10-12 inch shelf frames, no glue or hairspray zero warp or lift! Only did bed level and the input shaping on my seventh set of prints, all had perfect first layers even some printed with 2yr old cheap PLA. Very impressed, Qidi got this one right! I can truly say one can be printing flawless prints after 30 minutes and required manual update via USB stick. It will print flawless layers every print and the poop shoot sends the poop flying with some incredible force! Great purchase, I do believe this is first printer that can beat Bambu. I will work on getting my first video up at TH-cam, found out my video editing software is expired. Will work on some content with stuff saved filming with my phone, no professional production, but will highlight some engineering grade materials.
I am looking at getting this Plus 4, would you recommend waiting a few months in case any issues pop up like for the Q1 Pro did that they fixed with a minor revision, or would it be fine to get one now?
I want to buy one so bad. If it holds its own in a couple months, I will be picking this one for sure. Don't really care about an AMS unless it is actively dried and cooled! Not desiccant, but like solid state or heater.
My Q1 has been a total workhorse. If I ever decide I need more build space, this is looking mighty tempting. And it's only about 4cm larger than the Q1 in each direction (love that thing, but it is NOT space efficient)
Seems like some serious competition is coming Bambu Labs way! I recently got an A1 and quite like it. It has inspired me to fast track some of my crowdsourcing projects! Thanks to your video, I have started to consider the QIDI PLUS4 as well for my production run. Btw how does the print quality of this new QIDI PLUS4 compare with that of the Bambu Lab Printers - say the P1S or the X1C? I am someone who prefers print quality over speed, as long as the speed isn't too slow.
@LoyalMoses Not sure yet but it's nice to have the capability and also build quality. I'm looking forward to it, especially for the price it was a no brainer.
I was going to get a X-Max 3 , I’m not sorry I delayed the purchase. This is just the printer my household needs. Printing flexi dragons for the kids or something technical for the shop the perfect printer.
@@LoyalMosesI'm probably pulling the trigger early next week, the Qidi box was the final convincing I needed, and I'm willing to wait for it whilst getting to grips with the unit.
Same thing, $400 more, with a second hotend and I'd buy it in a heart beat. Specifically an additional hotend. Or a material system that can handle very soft TPU. Maybe even $800
I like the flexibility of the temperature range, as well as the rigid construction. That has the potential to produce some very high quality prints. I would love to see a multi-material unit that produces far less waste than the Bambulab printers. With that combo I would be looking hard at the Plus4.
I just purchased a K1c and p1s!! Man I wish I would have waited. Not in the market for a 3rd enclosed printer right now. This is the way it goes though, something new coming out constantly here lately!
I definitely feel your pain. I just bought and X1C Combo a month ago. I knew a couple new printers were coming out, but I just couldn't wait on a if and who knows when... so I did the deed. However, this one is making me foam at the mouth and tempted to get it too.. lol
Would love to see how this printer compares to a Bambu Lab p1p/s ! as I'm currently in the market for a 3D printer. Great video as always love the channel!
I really like both the features and looks of this Printer. Would have been nice to dig more into the mechanical aspects how they fair and compare between competitors. But I do know that if it would have released about a month ago, It definitely would have been a top contender in my choices. It hits all the other wants: 300+ build area !!!!! , chamber heater, insulated build area, High temp capable hot end and bed heater, quality construction, sleek design and more. At the price point they are asking it seems to be one very nice Unit. Also... for multi color off of website: Yes, the QIDI Plus 4 is compatible with the QIDI Box, a multifilament automatic feeding box. The QIDI Box will launch in the first quarter of 2025.
I have the Xmax 3, one thing I definitely will say was a needed upgrade is the dual z motors. it's a refined a little smaller xmax which I love, added our creature comforts that we didn't need but love to have 😊
@@LoyalMoses They are making the right moves at the right time, instead of delaying a product until their mmu is ready (you know who im talking about...k2 plus cough cough)
I'm looking into getting a 3d printer in the coming months and I was sold on the bambu lab x1. But if they came out with an ams system I'd definitely be sold. Maybe I'll wait a bit 🤔
Hello there. Based on several videos, I also ordered it. It will be an upgrade from Ender 3 Pro, so it's actually a new beginning, but I'm already looking forward to it and especially to Qidi BOX. I hope that they will also do some special price action on the Box for customers. I just miss a filament dryer with an active fan from this brand. Unfortunately, I had to order from a competitor.
New to this community and your channel and love the content so far! Really impressed by this unit. As a first time buyer, would it be worth waiting to see if Bambu comes out with a larger printer this year? I’m not in a hurry to purchase, but this seems to check all the boxes. I’d also eventually get the multi color add-on. But I keep hearing about Bambu’s ease of use, which would be great for a newbie like me. Thanks!
Bambu still has the best ease of use and user experience that our industry has ever seen, but this machine sure is amazing! I’m in love with it! It’s just so good!
@@LoyalMoses Thanks for the info. I have a dilemma whether QIDI plus 4 (with this printer I'm afraid of overheating) or K1 max. There is a big community behind K1 max and probably in case of problems I can find a solution. I don't know how it looks with QIDI.
I already have a Qidi 3 X-MAX and very satisfy, but now this Plus 4 make me wont to sell mine and buy this new one., or i have to wait the next Qidi 4 X-max. because of the volume. Great Video.
You can get a faster and better machine than this for $799?! Start naming those machines. This is hands down the best value printer on the market right now. The size, hotend, build plate, enclosure, heated chamber w/ MMU coming in Q1 of next year.
Qidi have a picture on the website for this printer showing the new multi-filament unit (release date Q1 2025) and the 4 Plus page has several references to the multi material unit. This seems really good
Been wanting a bigger corexy than the 256 cubed I currently love using. I just need that extra space for some projects in order to replaced my larger slower bed slinger. I do wish it was 305 cubed instead of 305x305x280 but for $799 this is a great deal.
I almost didn't click on this video. Very glad I did. This things looks incredibly exciting. It's great to see a serious manufacturer going this direction and the price is nuts.
I am so glad you clicked too! I am so excited for this industry and what is coming! Thanks for the comment!
@@LoyalMoses Thank YOU for the no-nonsense review. I reached out to QIDI. I NEED to be testing one of these with some exotic filaments for the functional parts I do.
Perfect application for it!!!
@@FunctionalPrintFriday QIDI for sure needs to send you one. Your A1 review was one of the main reasons I invested in the A1 series. And of course your functional prints and thought process. Keep it up!
@@NWGR thx! We're laserin' 3d prints tonight. Uploading the video now.
The Qidi website shows a QIDI Box, $228 multi-material system that is launching Q1 2025 compatible with the Plus4. Pretty awesome stuff!
I know! So stoked!!!
@@UntrobledDamo 🙏 🙏 it will work with Q1 Pro with an upgrade
Link? All I get is a filament dryer box for $39
@@kschaffer6978 I hadn't heard that. Do you have a link?
@@kschaffer6978 how do you know?
I would definitely consider this over my P1S for two reasons. The 9mm belt and the heated chamber. Just needs that MMU and Bambu Lab will have to respond with a better printer. Which is great for everyone!
Multi-color is coming Q1 and you bet Bambu has an awesome machine lined up already! 😁
I have a QIDI X PLUS 3. I have to say in the beginning I had several problems with it, but I was impressed with the way QIDI handled those issues. After replacing several components that they sent me along with links to TH-cam videos showing how to properly dismantle the machine for part replacement. Since then I haven’t had any issues. I think you do a great job with the reviews, and I’m glad to see QIDI moving in this direction. I’m looking to get another machine, I had considered an x1carbon but now I’m looking at the QIDI
Thanks
Jules
QIDI is working really hard to improve! I like that a lot.
I've been looking at all kinds of reviews on many different 3D printers until I couldn't stay up each night until 2AM captivated by so many reviews with the Pluses and Negatives of all these 3D printers. Got to the point where I was over it and didn't find something that struck me at 100%. Each printer was missing one important thing or another, UNTIL I came across your video and ordered the New QIDI PLUS 4. I'm happy that QIDI finally has handled and remove the manual Z adjustment of the printer head, where I have seen in reviews that it's a great 3D printer but, you have to do this adjustment manually each and everything you want to print a new part. That's what kept me from purchasing the QIDI 3D printers.
Great video and can't wait to get my hand on this one. Have a few things already I need to print out for my products and concepts. Cheers!
Bambu has been super hush on their upcoming XL project...Bambu will need to meet a lot of feature expectations, along with price expectations. Even Creality got their bum in gear with their K1 series. This QIDI clearly outperforms a P1S at a very similar price point. Hopefully we get a new Bambu printer along with reduced Bambu prices soon!
Exciting isn’t it?! So much is changing, so fast!
I know a tiny bit about one of Bambu's upcoming flagships from a mate of mine who got sent one to test, however that will like cost quite a bit more then the Plus 4, and they're still having people test it. For the time being Plus 4 looks lile it will be a go to.
They really need to make a P2 series
@@LoyalMoses Bambu has such a great consistency reputation. They are billed as “just works”. I am unfamiliar with Qidi for the most part.
For about a month I have been trying to decide on purchasing the X1C, or waiting on a larger format X1C release later.
Where would this printer for into that consideration?
The p1s is almost half of the price now, and I wonder why… 😂
@@BrickEngines$100 off isn't half the price... If it was half off id buy 4 more right now.
But keep spewing your nonsense.
I'm so excited, my Plus 4 is arriving Friday!!! Thanks for all the great info!
This checks all of my boxes. This just might convince my boss to let me get one for designing new products in the office.
That is literally the perfect application!!! Good luck!
If I could have a printer at home this would probably be the one I would buy. Mostly I design and make parts for adapting large format film cameras. My next project would be a camera back the takes 8x10 inch film. The parts are wide and deep, but not tall. They must be absolutely flat. Ideally you could use it in the sun and keep it in the trunk of a car without worrying about warping. The only additional feature I could use would be a second extruder to lay down a contrasting support material so that I could get clean, flat and accurate overhangs. That would greatly simplify part design.
Awesome, thank you for sharing!
I received a new Bambu P1S this week and although I am very happy with this printer I will probably end up buying the QIDI PLUS4 very soon so that I can try out some of those high temp, strong filaments. I like the larger build volume. Congrats to QIDI on putting out such a great product at such a great price.
P1S is an incredible machine! Congratulations! These high temp filaments are just cool!
@@LoyalMoses looking at my first printer, both prices same here in Aus (without AMS on Qidi) which do you recommend between the two?
Oooooh!! I got the x max 3 on SUPER sale and JUST printed my first print last night. I’m drooling over your spool supply bc I neeeeed it, lmao. I’m So addicted now, lol. Great video and thank you!!! ❤
Congratulations!!! I have heard that is an amazing machine. I have the X-Plus 3 and really like it!
If I didn't already have an X1C (had for 6 months) and was in the market, I would definitely consider this printer.
X1C is an awesome machine!
Thank you Loyal Moses! You took the time to answer my question (about which printer to purchase) in-depth during your Twitch stream. I was very impressed with the way you did it. You mentioned the benefits to each printer and which sort of person/creator would be a good match for each. I hope you're enjoying the Roadtrip!
It is definitely impressive. I’m always stuck in that loop of saying should I wait and see what the next new exciting printer is or buy something right now that is really out. I mean if you wait, you may never buy a printer because the “new one is coming soon” and if you purchase now you’re might miss out on the new and exciting printer that “changes the printing industry” and if you don’t pre-order that printer now you may not get your hands on it for another 6 to 8 months or worse you get it much sooner than expected but the printer is full of bugs and you spend the next few months or longer basically beta testing a printer that should not have been released yet. Would I like to have that new QIDI printer over a couple of the ones I have now, absolutely, but I like the printers I have now and they work great but they can’t hold a candle to the new QIDI. I do envy you sometimes, being able to get your hands on all the latest 3d printers and printer tech far ahead of everybody else. I know I get stuck in this loops of “can’t make a decision”. I don’t have loads of cash laying around to purchase them all (I wish). I want my money spent the best I can and get the most from it as I think most people do. I do really enjoy this hobby and seeing all the new and exciting things coming out and know that it is pushing the hobby forward which is fantastic. I like that you don’t do the whole “I have to find something wrong with this printer” thing. I mean anybody can do that and nitpick. If people knew you then they would already know that even though you don’t bad mouth any company or printer you also don’t hide any shortcomings if so deserved to be mentioned. It’s so subjective sometimes what some consider a negative. As always I enjoyed the video and I am excited to maybe get to see some more from this printer. : )
I know it sure is, what an amazing machine - totally blew away my expectations. I know that struggle is real, you summed it up perfectly well - you just have to jump in and start printing, otherwise you'll be sitting on the sidelines watching everyone else do all of the cool stuff.
I think you have an amazing lineup of machines, that is nothing to be sad about for sure!
Getting all of the machines is a curse too, sometimes I lose the complete interest in 3D printing because I don't get to enjoy it anymore - it sometimes feels like I am just printing to look for problems instead of printing to be excited about the results.
I think you are like most people, you want your money to bring the most amount of value and joy in this hobby -- which lately, is getting easier to do. There are so many amazing and new machines, and I think it will only get better, so even if you don't get a new machine this month or next, just hang on, because the ones right around the corner will be even better.
And I appreciate that... I don't like to just pick random things to fein concern over - I really want people to see the machine for what it is, the total package including the user experience and to ignore or look past the petty little things that some people can get hung up over. Side story -- it reminds me of people who pass on buying a home because they didn't like the color of the walls or carpet. YOU CAN PAINT AND REPLACE CARPET, WHY ARE YOU PASSING ON THAT HOUSE!?
I appreciate you a lot and this comment I saved until last while I was catching up just now so I could have the time to sit at the computer and give you the respect you deserve! Thank you for this. 💜
@@LoyalMoses Thank you
This is exciting. I'm considering getting into 3D printing for myself and for my homeschooled kids to do engineering.
I was considering something between entry-level (sub $200) upto bambu A1 price range. But this makes me consider finding a way to extend my budget.
Particularly as its gonna be in a cold room, so I'm going to need a good enclosure / heating setup, so having that built in is a great start.
Your review made me purchase this printer as my first.
I have the P1S and A1 and love them, but after watching this video I'm really interested in adding this printer to my collection. Thanks LM, awesome video.
Awesome and thank you
This feels like a big swing at the X1C from Qidi. Sleek all-in-one design, but a helmet-class build size, and apparently nice quality in the finished prints. And it's the price of a P1S. That's just crazy. Definitely have to keep my eye on this one. If an XL printer from Bambu drops anytime soon, it would be interesting to see these two machines go head to head. Really good to see other companies producing nice quality printers to compete in the space, particularly since the Bambu P1S/P1P and X1C dropped and kind of changed the landscape of FDM printing.
I will definitely have a comparison video for sure when I can compare these machines head to head! I love that we are getting so many amazing new machines.
@@LoyalMoses Does this mean Bambu is coming out with an XL? ;) That's the only thing holding me back from hitting that buy now for this Plus4.
@@theFPVgeekyeah I’m waiting to see what Bambu does next. I enjoy my A1 while waiting.
I have the X-Max 3 and it's a phenomenal printer. It's pretty awesome to see how well polished the Plus 4 is because they both share a lot of DNA. I'm a little bummed out that we X-Max 3 users may not be able to upgrade it to have some of these features when their Qidi Box comes out. It makes me wonder what the X-Max 4 will look like haha! Honestly if I didn't have my X-Max 3 right now, i'd totally buy the Plus 4. It's pretty much exactly everything I wanted the Q1 Pro to be (larger build volume) - I'm team Qidi and keep rooting for them!
Yes! I just bought my X-Max 3 last month and if I hadn't, I'd probably get the Plus 4, even though it doesn't have as big a build volume. And if they come out with an X-Max 4, I'll definitely be looking to trade up! I'm very impressed with my Max 3 so far and with what Qidi's doing at their price points.
I would have LOVED to have the Max 3, that could make some awesome helmets!
Hi Loyal Moses, thanks for this amazing review as usual. Your channel is one of the best ones out there on TH-cam. You have the perfect mix of charisma, knowledge and integrity that we all love. I'm also impressed at how you take the time to give great responses to your followers' comments despite having so many of us.
Keep up the great work.
These are very kind words! Thank you so much! I really do love to chat with everyone in the community, there are so many amazing people sharing this awesome passion!
What printer to choose between QIDI PLUS4 and Bambu Lab P1S?
I need your honest advice!
Thank you.
Same boat
qidi plus4 over the weak 2500$ x1e that only goes to 320c on nozzle . Use logics.
Pricing is Super competitive!! I’m currently in the Bamboo ecosystem, but this printer at that price definitely has my attention!
I love how fast we are advancing!
Did you post process that helmet? Sand, paint, etc? Because it looks amazing. This is insane. That is like what you would get from liquid resin DLP printers. I can't even imagine how much that would cost with resin.
The price is simply ridiculously cheap for the quality you get and the print quality. I will get one when I can. Shocked.
Damn you. I knew I shouldn't have clicked on this video. Now I am going to be down $800.
Nothing, just removed the supports and filmed it! Crazy good filament and printer!
I have only had the Qidi Max 3 for about 3 months. Now i admit at first was a hard start, First it had software crash. restarted printer then firmware was not matching with the MCU (reflash) then screen started showing lines on screen Qidi was quick and nice about replacing, then filament sensor took a dump. overall was easy to repair qidi had no issues sending me parts. bed leveling on this thing is perfect every time, bridging capabilities are amazing (my first enclosed printer) the quality im pulling out of my Max 3 is amazing parts feel strong, no layer lines. perfect profiles. My Qidi Max 3 is my fav printer. Pursa Mk2s, CR-10S, CR-10S Pro, CR-10S Pro, ender 3, Qidi Max 3, SV08. 3d printer bug got me...
You’ve got the bug for sure!!!
What a machine! This will be on my radar if I need to get into the higher end filaments. Really enjoying the Qidi Q1 Pro so far. Great video as usual , keep them coming! 🎉
Such an amazing machine! Thanks for the comment!
Based on your and other's review I ordered the Unit. Did not get a good start. The fan on the left is attached with a screw in a post formed in the panel, it broke in shipping preventing the build plate from moving up and down during the first power cycle. The Web site's instructions for updating its firmware have yet to work. Yes, this is my day one impression, and I will see how customer support works out.
OH NO! Was there any damage to the box from shipping?!
As for firmware, is yours network connected? I just updated the firmware through the interface over the air.
I sure hope support gets you squared away, they are known for taking care of customers.
How did it go 3 weeks later
Was going to buy a qidi q1 pro then I saw this and changed my mind instantly. I print with almost exclusivly abs, asa, and pa12 nylon. This will be a much needed upgrade for what i do. Before looking at the q1 pro i was looking at the bambu x1e but that was a bit out of my budget for 1 printer. Cant wait to see what filaments i can print with 370c nozzle temp.
AWESOME! I would take this machine over the Q1 Pro any day, this is just such a good machine.
well all the same filaments you can print at 350 pps rolls all say max recomended printing temp 350c the next high temp filaments take 400c and higher to print so this thing a cutter and is 25mm bigger then an xplus3 20 degree higher nozzle temp makes legit no difference in what it can print so a cutter and 25mm bigger build plate for 200 dollars more
My only 3D printing experience comes from my Ender 3 (og version) and about a years' worth of printing terrain and miniatures. Its veen sitting dormant now for a few years but I recently stumbled across the multi filament Bambu and became interested once again. Been playing catch up on all the advancements both in hardware and filaments. Crazy how much things have changed...
This printer looks simply amazing. I've been debating which Bambu to buy, but now I feel like I need to wait just a bit. I'm in no special hurry.
Thank you for bringing us all this information! I'm paying attention and getting myself geared up to get back in the FDM game!
Opinions on #1 Out of Box Beginner Use, #2 Quality of each print when printing over and over and handling ABS/ Carbon Fiber filament while maintaining quality of print, and Value Compared to Qidi X-Plus 3, Bambu X1C & P1S. With Prices dropping on the x-plus 3 and p1s/X1C Its really good to know value and quality vs those 2. Thanks
Can you swap out the nozzles for different sizes, if so, easily>? Do you need to do when switching from say PLA to abs for instance (will the abs create issues or wear on a nozzle from temp changes), so change the nozzle for those)?
Filament is the big cost now, however there is a wide choice available. Injection molding pellets are cheaper. This printer has so many applications and looks simple to use. Bambu has shaken the market up and these are now appliances that can be used at home. Imagine your personal Tesla bot using one to upgrade itself or fix a broken part.
Oh dude! Wouldn’t that be crazy?! We end up with humanoids that can use our 3D printers?!
I love how Qidi does this and still is more open than Bambu.
QIDI is doing awesome!!!
@@LoyalMoses Speaking of open, how is the software toolchain for this thing? Which slicer, and does it come with good printer management software?
It's nice to see affordable, turn-key machines from manufacturers other than Bambu (not a huge fan of them and their business model)
@@kaasmeester5903I’m new to the world of printing. Was looking to buy an XC1. Waiting for a special.
I have a number of things I’ve wanted to prototype over the last few years and been waiting for a more plug and play printer. And better material development. The XC1 seems to tick all those boxes and have a massive user support base?
I’m still in the research phase. What is it that Bambu labs frustrates you with regard to the business model?
This Qidi seems very compelling to me. But there isn’t nearly as much online about it compared to Bambu. That concerns me.
@@kaasmeester5903looks like a fork of prusaslicer.
Everyone hating on bambu for doing so well and pushing all the other manufacturers to innovate 🤦🏻♂️
@@kaasmeester5903 it runs on the latest version of klipper and has a fluid interface and you can manage the printer through the qidi app. For what it is in my opinion you cant get much better for remote management. The best part about it using klipper you can use any klipper remote management software or moblie apps. Qidi has there own fork of prusa slicer kniwn as qidi slicer but i bet if there is not orca slicer profiles already then someone will make one. It is not super hard to make a custom profile for your slicer of choice. I dont ow. A qidi machine yet but i have used some of there printers in the past and had a pleasent experience with there slicer.
Definitely an impressive machine. I have heard if you print a tall model and the platform moves right to the bottom of the chamber it will block the intake of the heater and it will overheat and shut down the print (which would be painful right at the end of a long print). Other than some minor quibbles looks pretty solid.
I printed a helmet that nearly maxed out the z-height with everything at max temps and there was no shutdown on mine.
THIS may be the one! Been wanting to upgrade to a newer high temp printer. From my CR10v2, Ender3.
After your review I thought this would be out of budget expensive, but Wow...
It’s just so good!
This is one to watch I've been wanting the X1C with ASA for a while now, so I might stand by and see how this machine works out for everyone. Read so many bad reports on the Max3 I'm reluctant to spring for the Plus4 right now.
I’ve gotten a lot of comments about the Max 3 as well. I never got to use one, just the Plus 3, Q1 Pro and the Plus4. It’s interesting that there can be so much difference between what we would think are just the same printers, only one is larger.
I love my Qidi X1 Pro and Xsmart3 they just run great. This new model will be added to my shop. Been waiting for it's arrival! If you have not tried it yet, try out Qidi Nylon also, think it is nylon gf or CF. I use the ABS GF from them all the time and PETCF. Their top of line nylon though is my favorite material, just prints incredible in the heated chamber. Looking forward to this purchase, trying not to hit buy this evening.....I like the look of new heated nozzle and blower design. Many bonuses in this model, think they easily give Bambu labs a run for their money, and price difference is huge. Qidi listens to buyers and makes quick adjustments to models based on customer feedback, changes quickly get added to their production runs when needed or suggested. This time it looks like they hit a true homerun. The high temp nozzle and heated chamber make a huge difference. I run mostly engineering grade type filaments all the time in my Q1, having that heated chamber makes a huge difference on final quality. I think Bambu with heater runs around $2400.
So exciting! QIDI is doing some amazing things this past year. Super excited.
@@LoyalMoses Gotta love competition in our market, good for all of us!
I was close to buying a Qidi but went with the Bambu X1C, however with all these features and size to print large items like helmets without slicing in pieces I might add one to my workshop for that price
Those X1Cs are awesome machines!!! Indefinite support having more than one printer, especially a helmet class one that can print high temp filaments!
I love the improvements that they have made with this printer over the previous versions
I know, it's just so good!
@@LoyalMoses ? not allot diff then xplus 3 main thin is a cutter and 25 mm bigger build plate it cannot print any material an xplus 3 cant
I am so taken back by this! QIDI nice work!
It is an incredible machine!
I ordered one here in Australia, it's taking weeks to get here, I'm bursting to use it! Then the AMS next year, whoa.
Finally a company that’s doing something different and exciting
It’s awesome to see!
I am so impressed with qidi lately. I don't know that I'm going to be able to hold back on this. This would be amazing for my business
These high temp filaments are amazing! QIDI is really doing well lately.
Whose model did you use for the helmet and did you scale it? Great video and appears to be a printer I would like.
It’s a Galactic Armory helmet!
Great information delivered so we all understand. Thank you as always great review.
Thank you so much!
Glad I found this. I kinda wanted to build a voron for the experience but this thing has some insane value.
The value here is incredible!
Feedback that they should include an extra, longer reverse bowden for those who perhaps are farming, to give more spool mounting options out-of-box. Or a longer stock piece so it sticks out enough to add a union.
Nice!
I'm a huge bambu fan (6 bambu printers in my house), but this is quite impressive. I'll check out some other reviews to see if there's any quirks to it, but this really looks a great deal at $800 considering what you get.
Bambu makes awesome printers for sure! A lot of people are interested in this because of the chamber heater and 370c hotend.
@@LoyalMoses For sure. If I was in the market for a printer that could handle engineering materials I'd probably pick this one over a P1S or X1C.
I was just about to order the XMAX3 today and seen this in my feed! Holy cow! Will have to arrange an order for this one first thing on Monday for my company!!!!!
Absolutely! You will love it!
@@LoyalMoses Managed to get a hold of one and ordered it! Estimated delivery is 19th of November... Holy smokes! This thing is either in crazy demand or there are so few of them around.
I have the QIDI X-Max3 and right now it sitting on the floor in a spare room. It has had several problems (it had problems from day one) and the last one, the magnetic pad on the print bed pulled partly up after a print to removed the print - I had waited over 1 hour before It try to remove it. I never been able to get it to print well again (I mostly print using PLA/PETG filament wanted to try some of the more advance filaments like ASA or CF stuff at some point too). I work with the QIDI on the other issues I had with it (they have really good support) and they where very helpfully, but there nothing I can do to get it to print level across the entire bed, the Z-axis offset just never worked evenly across the print bed. It feels like the printer bed is warped in certain areas. I have replace the magnetic pad which came up way to easy in multi areas and hard in other areas.
I have bought replace hot ends, extrudes, nozzles, PEI plates, etc. for it. It has become a money pit and I have given up. I have tried to fix it but its just not worth it any more. I tried for over 3 months to get it to print well again. Every time I think I have it, it works fine for one or two prints than I have many failed prints - always in certain areas of the print bed.
I just cannot bring myself to purchase another QIDI print even though this one sound really good. Nothing against QIDI, they been great trying to support me, just my bad luck - as a good friend of mine whose know me for over 25 year put it recently, you should try good luck sometime in place of your bad luck.
So it a hard pass for me on it I wait and see what Bambu Labs comes up with. I would like at least one 3D print to just work and one I do not tinker with. Yes I tinker with 3d Printers quiet a bit. The QIDI X-Max 3 was suppose to be the always just works/never tinker with printer for me. :(
3D Print has become my new hobby I really enjoy. I have always like building my own computers and water cooling them but now 3D Printing has replace that. I find it very fun and yes frustrating at times but I like the challenge of 3D Printing (the technical stuff for 3D Printing - I am in no way a model designer, not even close).
Oh man, I didn’t enjoy reading this! I hate seeing bad experiences, and I always wish I could fix the problem or help in some way. Sorry that you have a giant helmet class 3D printer that just can print! I wonder if there is a place you can take it to have it looked at / repaired?!
@@LoyalMoses Thank you for you reply to my post. I work in IT at a universality and one of the folks I work with know a lot about 3D Printing, he offer to help me with it (2nd pair of eyes sort of thing). I do not think I miss anything but having some one else take a look is worth the effort. However, it will be a while before I can do that as I not at work because I am recovering from surgery and have another surgery schedule for early October, so it will be some time before I can take him up on his offer of help.
I still think the new QIDI print is really good and a shot across Bambu Labs bow. It seems to so far have a lot to go for it thought I wish it where closer to 350mm size printer.
Also, an idea for a future video, maybe you could go over the process to print with some of the more advance filaments like TPU, ASA/ABS or CF type stuff. A nice how to with what to watch out for and recommends? Plus factors/reason you might want to use those filaments. I never used them myself and the possible health issue are spooky to me so it be nice to see what your advice/recommendation are.
I enjoy you videos on 3D Printing, you never nit pick on things, you cover the pros and cons with recommendation as to what it can be used for and not for but also how you like to see it improve.
Sorry that happened to you. I would contact them. I have the X Max 3, and it hasn’t had a single issue. That machine alone has me addicted to Qidi. I’m just happy to hear the AMS direction they are going so I don’t have to buy the Bamboo. Don’t get me wrong, the Bamboo is perfect, but I have brand loyalty, and you can’t beat the specs on this one!
@@makerbit3970 Same here, I bought an X-Max 3 last month and I've been printing on it nonstop since getting it. So far in almost 50 prints I haven't had one print failure or any major problems. The only downside is the poor design decision to locate the sealed spool holder at the rear of the printer, which makes it more difficult to change spools. But there are models out there for external spool-holders if you want to change that. I own other FDM and SLA printers and this has become my go-to. It's not perfect, but it's the most reliable and fastest one I own. And for such a big build volume and a heated chamber at its price, it's great. It sucks that the OP is having so many problems with his - my sympathies. It sounds like he, unfortunately, got a lemon. It happens, it's happened to me before too with other printers. But it's evidently not a systemic problem with their X-Max 3 line, and more just a one-off, "bad apple" situation.
The Plus4 sounds great, especially for the price, but I will have to wait for the AMS to come out. Hopefully it will be out soon. I was originally considering a K1 MAX and was waiting for its AMS "to come out this year". Creality better hurry. They have less than 60 days. I also need to see the smoke clear (pun intended) on the Plus4's chamber heater SCR over heating problem.
Wow an amazing machine and an amazing price point! Qidi has really been turning out some great products! Great for us, thanks for sharing a great review w us..
Thank you for the kind words, and yes I agree QIDI is just knocking it out of the park! The price and features are perfect!
Thank you for the kind words, and yes I agree QIDI is just knocking it out of the park! The price and features are perfect!
My 1st real high speed printer is the Flash Forge 5m which am very happy with in the price per value. This also looks like very good price per value if you are looking to get into exotic filament. I will be putting this on my list. Was going to get another 5m, but this might a very good addition as well.
I've heard great things about that machine but haven't tried it!
This thing is making me consider a second printer! I just signed up for email subscription, price point seems unbelievable…wow!
I know! I wasn’t kidding about how I was shocked when they emailed me that price.
The only QIDI printer I've used was a flashforge clone and it was a pretty bad experience. I never got a successful print off of it because it turned out one of the main rods was bent. Ended up throwing it in the dump because I had no means of fixing it and it was out of the return window. Surprised to see that they're putting out such impressive hardware now.
Would you get the +4 or the X1 as a first printer, or something else. Price is always an issue but not controlling.
The X1 I would rate around a 8 or 9 out of all 3D printers, the build quality and experience are the best we’ve ever seen.
The PLUS 4 is what I would consider one notch less than this, the experience is great, just not Bambu level and the MMU option isn’t here yet for multi-color, but it is coming Q1 of next year.
But that PLUS 4 has that chamber heater, and hotend which are amazing! 🔥
Def in the same boat. Can't decide between the x1c and this +4.so hard to make a choice between em😢still dno what to go for. Please help!!
This looks like a promising first machine, I might be placing an order soon. Thanks for the review, this looks like a great place to start!
It really is an amazing machine!
For print farms this is could be an awesome machine, their Q1 Pro was already a good entry for smaller businesses to offer making parts in more heavy duty materials but this one now will solidify it. I was eyeing the HT90 but this one could probably be the gateway printer to industrial materials. I've been hearing people say that the next step for the consumer 3D printer industry is moving the mark about what "high temperature" is exactly, not long before 300C was advertised as high temp, won't be surprised if in a year or two 500C will become standard practice at the consumer level
Interesting. Wouldn’t that be crazy to have 500c temps at home?! Wow!
EBPMAN Tech Reviews posted a video a couple of days ago. He has print farms and has been using bambu before , and now Plus4 is joining his farm 👍
Seems I’d need to buy one lol. I have been wanting something other than a Bambu and bigger build volume to try printing more exotic materials. The price point can’t be beat for this.
You know how scary it is… you start printing on these machines before anyone else, and the experience is going so well, and you are so afraid of a problem ruining the whole thing… that helmet came out so perfect, without even trying, I was so happy! Pausing and resuming in the middle and it just continued exactly like it should. Amazing machine!
Just ordered one up, my other Qidi's needed some friends. Looking forward to it's arrival. I will need to find a new table to put this one on, it looks quite big, I don't think bench I have is deep enough for it to fit, may have to go on my desk. This puts serious price pressure on Bambu Labs, and one also gains the heated chamber for almost 3.5 times less than Bambu comparable. I love the support Qidi gives customers, they shipping me filament sensor for my Q1. They announced the color changer AMS Unit for first quarter 2025.
Congrats!!! When does it arrive?!
@@LoyalMoses Arrived yesterday had one minor issue kept shutting down when did autolevel, second the bed heater turned on. Found was shipped set 230 even though power button label had 110-130 on it. I usually check setting, no biggie thing has been running flawless nearly 22 hrs now! I am printing some pf Qidi ABS25 GF at moment batch of 10-12 inch shelf frames, no glue or hairspray zero warp or lift! Only did bed level and the input shaping on my seventh set of prints, all had perfect first layers even some printed with 2yr old cheap PLA. Very impressed, Qidi got this one right! I can truly say one can be printing flawless prints after 30 minutes and required manual update via USB stick. It will print flawless layers every print and the poop shoot sends the poop flying with some incredible force! Great purchase, I do believe this is first printer that can beat Bambu.
I will work on getting my first video up at TH-cam, found out my video editing software is expired. Will work on some content with stuff saved filming with my phone, no professional production, but will highlight some engineering grade materials.
Wow, one sweet new machine. I might have to get one, so I can add it to my other two enclosed printers. Great price too.
I am so impressed with it!
I want to print a lifesize r2d2 ... i have been looking at printers for 2 years!!!!! this may be the one!!!! awesome video!!!
Thank you! And I would LOVE to see you print that!
@@LoyalMoses when is bambu going to release a bigger printer??? that is what i have been waiting for!
Better than the Bambulab P1S?
Yeah, better print quality and it can print the PPS-CF filament.
I am looking at getting this Plus 4, would you recommend waiting a few months in case any issues pop up like for the Q1 Pro did that they fixed with a minor revision, or would it be fine to get one now?
I’ve had it for months and haven’t had a single issue. Watch all the videos that are released and then you’ll be able to make that decision!
@@keiz_ just order it, this thing is incredible, first layers perfect across whole bed!
I want to buy one so bad. If it holds its own in a couple months, I will be picking this one for sure. Don't really care about an AMS unless it is actively dried and cooled! Not desiccant, but like solid state or heater.
It’s really good!
My Q1 has been a total workhorse. If I ever decide I need more build space, this is looking mighty tempting. And it's only about 4cm larger than the Q1 in each direction (love that thing, but it is NOT space efficient)
QIDI definitely likes the larger enclosures, all of their machines have been that way.
Compared with Plus3, the space utilization of Plus4 has been greatly improved! I think they will continue to improve this aspect!
Just received my Q4 yesterday. Easy to set up and test prints came out perfect. Looking for a comprehensive owner's manual to no avail.
Looks like an awesome machine. Another great video. 🙂
Thank you so much!
I ordered mine. Thanks for the great video
Super exciting! Congrats!
Seems like some serious competition is coming Bambu Labs way! I recently got an A1 and quite like it. It has inspired me to fast track some of my crowdsourcing projects! Thanks to your video, I have started to consider the QIDI PLUS4 as well for my production run.
Btw how does the print quality of this new QIDI PLUS4 compare with that of the Bambu Lab Printers - say the P1S or the X1C? I am someone who prefers print quality over speed, as long as the speed isn't too slow.
I took a gamble and ordered one. I really like the capability of high temp prints. I also think it looks cool.
OH!!! Wo! What materials do you plan on printing with it?! Congratulations!
@LoyalMoses Not sure yet but it's nice to have the capability and also build quality. I'm looking forward to it, especially for the price it was a no brainer.
Awesome!!!
I was going to get a X-Max 3 , I’m not sorry I delayed the purchase. This is just the printer my household needs. Printing flexi dragons for the kids or something technical for the shop the perfect printer.
Nice!!!
...Qidi Plus 4, X Max 3 or Creality K2 Plus...which gives me the most, with the least amount of hassles?
I haven’t used the K2, so I can’t comment and I had a Plus 3. So, of those 3 the Plus 4 has been the better of the machines I’ve looked at.
@@LoyalMosesI'm probably pulling the trigger early next week, the Qidi box was the final convincing I needed, and I'm willing to wait for it whilst getting to grips with the unit.
Oh this is exciting! Are you planning on printing some high temp materials?
Same thing, $400 more, with a second hotend and I'd buy it in a heart beat. Specifically an additional hotend. Or a material system that can handle very soft TPU. Maybe even $800
These machines are just cool!
I like the flexibility of the temperature range, as well as the rigid construction. That has the potential to produce some very high quality prints. I would love to see a multi-material unit that produces far less waste than the Bambulab printers. With that combo I would be looking hard at the Plus4.
Their multi-color option arrives in Q1, will be amazing to see it in action!
I just purchased a K1c and p1s!! Man I wish I would have waited. Not in the market for a 3rd enclosed printer right now. This is the way it goes though, something new coming out constantly here lately!
Congrats on those purchases! I know what you mean, there is always a new machine right around the corner.
I definitely feel your pain. I just bought and X1C Combo a month ago. I knew a couple new printers were coming out, but I just couldn't wait on a if and who knows when... so I did the deed. However, this one is making me foam at the mouth and tempted to get it too.. lol
Would love to see how this printer compares to a Bambu Lab p1p/s ! as I'm currently in the market for a 3D printer. Great video as always love the channel!
You bet I will have some comparison videos! Working on them!
I really like both the features and looks of this Printer. Would have been nice to dig more into the mechanical aspects how they fair and compare between competitors. But I do know that if it would have released about a month ago, It definitely would have been a top contender in my choices. It hits all the other wants: 300+ build area !!!!! , chamber heater, insulated build area, High temp capable hot end and bed heater, quality construction, sleek design and more. At the price point they are asking it seems to be one very nice Unit.
Also... for multi color off of website: Yes, the QIDI Plus 4 is compatible with the QIDI Box, a multifilament automatic feeding box. The QIDI Box will launch in the first quarter of 2025.
Amazing isn't it? so many awesome features packed into this machine. QIDI should be very proud!
What was the height of the helmet? Been hearing a problem with the bed blocking the heater, at like 270.
I have the Xmax 3, one thing I definitely will say was a needed upgrade is the dual z motors. it's a refined a little smaller xmax which I love, added our creature comforts that we didn't need but love to have 😊
The upgrades keep coming, it is just awesome!
@@LoyalMoses They are making the right moves at the right time, instead of delaying a product until their mmu is ready (you know who im talking about...k2 plus cough cough)
As far as the design goes, it looks similar to the vintage TV in the background. They would look good side by side.
Wo! Good point! I can make that happen!
Purchases one when it came out the pricing was just too good. I don't think there is another printer that can compete on tech/price.
I agree, the value it offers is insane!!!
Wow, I would love to test out this printer on my mechanical robot designs on my channel. Thank you for sharing this printer update with us.
Thank you!
I'm looking into getting a 3d printer in the coming months and I was sold on the bambu lab x1. But if they came out with an ams system I'd definitely be sold. Maybe I'll wait a bit 🤔
Multi-color coming Q1!
Hello there. Based on several videos, I also ordered it. It will be an upgrade from Ender 3 Pro, so it's actually a new beginning, but I'm already looking forward to it and especially to Qidi BOX. I hope that they will also do some special price action on the Box for customers. I just miss a filament dryer with an active fan from this brand. Unfortunately, I had to order from a competitor.
New to this community and your channel and love the content so far!
Really impressed by this unit. As a first time buyer, would it be worth waiting to see if Bambu comes out with a larger printer this year? I’m not in a hurry to purchase, but this seems to check all the boxes. I’d also eventually get the multi color add-on. But I keep hearing about Bambu’s ease of use, which would be great for a newbie like me. Thanks!
Bambu still has the best ease of use and user experience that our industry has ever seen, but this machine sure is amazing! I’m in love with it! It’s just so good!
Not sure I would wait, there is always a new printer coming just around the corner!
Also, thank you for the kind words! 💜
That thing looks really good. Looking at my brand new printer that’s waiting for parts Qidi has me wishing I made a different choice.
Oh man! Sorry to hear that.
@@LoyalMoses maybe the xplus3 will go on sale for a smokin good deal and I’ll get one of them. By all accounts they seem to be pretty good too.
I have an X Plus 3, it’s a great machine too! I bet the price will drop for sure.
can you recommend an IDEX printer ? (I-fast does not have auto-level) thanks
Have you had any problems with the printer shutting down due to overheating?
Not at all. Printed with maxed out temps for 12+ hours, all good,
@@LoyalMoses Thanks for the info. I have a dilemma whether QIDI plus 4 (with this printer I'm afraid of overheating) or K1 max. There is a big community behind K1 max and probably in case of problems I can find a solution. I don't know how it looks with QIDI.
I already have a Qidi 3 X-MAX and very satisfy, but now this Plus 4 make me wont to sell mine and buy this new one., or i have to wait the next Qidi 4 X-max. because of the volume. Great Video.
Thank you! Also, yes, QIDI is doing great things! 🔥🔥🔥
I got a qidi plus 3 and love it, is my 3d printer for small parts and tpu… I wish the price was 699
Wouldn’t that be an amazing price?!
@@LoyalMoses the price is already good, I’m just broken. With all features the plus4 has, would be amazing $699, but 799 is not bad deal
@@ultimaevo77why do you say that? Did they announce it somewhere? On their site it doesn't show a $1200 price anywhere.
@@keiz_ my bad, I was looking in the wrong currency.
for that kind of money you can get alot better and faster of a machine but an active enclosure and that hefty bed is game changing
You can get a faster and better machine than this for $799?! Start naming those machines.
This is hands down the best value printer on the market right now. The size, hotend, build plate, enclosure, heated chamber w/ MMU coming in Q1 of next year.
This seriously looks so good
It really is very nice!
This will probably be my next printer. Need the heated chamber and bigger size over my Bambu P1S.
Awesome!
Qidi have a picture on the website for this printer showing the new multi-filament unit (release date Q1 2025) and the 4 Plus page has several references to the multi material unit. This seems really good
The multi-color system will be just a few months away! This is such a good machine!
@@LoyalMoses I hope they send you a muktu-color unit to demo because I wouldn't have checked their website if not for this video
I was debating between getting another p1s but this just entered the mix
Supper cool . It would be nice to see more build plates.
More!
The delay of the new bambulab XL and the competition is going very far.....QIDI PLUS4 , Creality K2 Plus .....at very interesting prices.
Awesome and exiting times to be in 3D printing!
Been wanting a bigger corexy than the 256 cubed I currently love using. I just need that extra space for some projects in order to replaced my larger slower bed slinger. I do wish it was 305 cubed instead of 305x305x280 but for $799 this is a great deal.
Yeah, that is a weird shaped build volume for sure, but it works!
What about the chamber heater being blocked on large prints?
That helmet is a large print!
Fantastic printer!! For that price?? Omggg!
I know!!!! 🤯