Sitting the full length of the board in the ground is not good. Even if it’s sitting on concrete.. water can pool and rot the wood, even if it’s pressure treated..
Being an old gal who has more time than money, I’ve become dependent on these videos. I’ve replaced my garbage disposal, tiled kitchen backsplash, tiled shower, installed crown molding throughout my house and repaired my lawnmower, just to name a few. Decking over my old concretely back porch is next, and this is how I intend to do it.
Thank you for sharing your experiences. Since my door threshold was about 6” I couldn’t add stepping stones under each joists to protect the bottom frame. Please ensure enough spacing for drainage and air circulation. Thank you again
If anyone is planning to build a deck like this using Trex, please make sure to place your floor joists closer together, say 12 inches, instead of 16 inches as these boards have lots of give to them and you'll soon see a sag forming between the joists. I learned the hard way.
Dear all, after building the frame I waited about 2 weeks to watch the drainage, I didn’t see any problems even during heavy rain because the surface of the concrete slab is not even. It has also a very rough surface that allows water flow. Additionally I used some spacers that doesn’t included in the video. Finally, this is a DIY video and it was my first decking experience. Yes I made a lo of mistake but I would not be able learn the best way without trying. Thank you 🙏
Don't sweat it. I'm a DIYer and definitely will be making mistakes. Be proud that you did it. If you don't make mistakes you can never learn from them. 🤫
This is the best review ever :) There have been a lot of critics but I am still very happy with the result considering building my first deck. Thank you again
I am a carpenter n finish carpenter,he did a very good job.Ive worked with that decking several times n I would have to say he did a perfect job.they sell little matching plugs for the screw holes.
Nice job sir, especially for your first deck. Repetition is the mother and father of all learning! I see some harsh comments but I don’t see them doing projects on TH-cam! Keep doing what your doing!
Nice deck but it appears that drainage may be a problem. Treated lumber rots too especially if subject to water immersion. Actually the treatment does not penetrate the wood completely so ripping the boards would expose untreated wood too. Preserative should be applied to the ripped edges.
I don't recommend putting wood directly on concrete were water will be trapped. Even treated will deteriorate without any air flow around it in high moisture environments.
You have done a very good job overall, As a carpenter myself, if you don’t mind mind, I suggest you to use exterior pressure treated lumber as base lumber and cut holes in edge frame to allow water to be drained out. Good luck on this job, and hope you don’t get a called back after 5 years.
I'm surprised that Mr. Dernir would place his framing directly on the concrete surface -- a sure-fire way to accelerate rot. The Trex looks nice for now, but this isn't likely to be a long-lived deck.
My thoughts exactly. Pressure treated lumber is not protection aganist moisture, rather insects. When buying pt lumber there are different amounts of chemicals available such as ground contact rates...unfortunately most lumber co.'s carry the material with the least amount of chemicals. Have no doubt this pt frameing will rot.
I have this same composite boards for my deck and we put it together using those clips. For us, it was a big mistake because we have small oak leaves that get caught in the clips. I bought a special tool to clean the leaves between the boards but every tool I have tried does not clean the small leaves from each clip (and we have a lot of them). If I had to do it over again, I would screw in each board side by side instead of the clips (like we did on our front deck). But you made an excellent video. Thanks for sharing.
I recommend placing 1" galvanized lag screws all along the bottom of the floor joists. Yes, it a lot but that 1/8" spacing the head of the lag screw provides will keep the wood off the concrete and extend the life of the deck.
Onderkant hout zal nat worden door regenwater of vocht en dan gaat die verrotten misschien verven of hardhout of aluminium bodem kunstig kan ook dan is voor altijd goed
Very nice, I am about to do the same project. One thing I’d do different is to shim the framing, so it is not sitting on the moist concrete and trapping water.
Nice job building that deck....they do make the same screws with a special driver bit that countersinks and bores a hole that you hammer in a plug to finish and the screws can't be seen.
I think this is certianly one of the better videos about how to diy the deck. Can someone with more expeirence tell me why only 6.2k like over 1.5m views?
Just read some of the comments & The amount of unsolicited advice & criticism is amazing, especially coming from non-professionals. Anyway, it looks great & for the amount you spent, it can be done over if needed. I was just quoted $22,500 for a 20x15 ground deck & 5 stairs, so keep up the good work. 🤗
It costed me around $1500 and I learned a lot from it. Again it was my first decking experience and I am very happy with it so far. I understand and respect most of the comments and I will use them as moment of learning. Thank you
One of the other fix it guys suggested securing each end of the boards first then pushing the centers of the boards and clipping. Seemed easier. Nice result
It looks good but personally I would never lay a wooden frame straight onto an old concrete base that could collect water. If you can’t be bothered to break out the concrete to allow for airflow underneath than it has to be a composite frame. Mitred corners need a small expansion joint with composite too
Dear all, after making frame I waited about 2 weeks to watch the drainage, I didn’t see any problems even during heavy rain because the surface of the concrete slab is not even. It has also a very rough surface that allows water flow. Thank you
I've been trying to figure out things myself TH-cam is absolutely invaluable. I imagine going all out for this 30ft,er RV or something simple enclosed on the side. I would like to use as much recycled materials as I can. From large metal can concrete peirs too plastic bottle trash bricks pinned in with chicken wire finished with recycled foam and concrete mix. Probably just a tin roof or just a plastic tar tile floor instead of wood framed floor or trex then yeah.
The deck came out absolutely beautiful. Thank you for sharing the process with us. The ONLY thing I would’ve done different was used cortex screws for the edge boards. It would’ve saved you time in pre drilling and it has plugs that match the saddle decking to cover the holes.
We want to build your deck's same in my neighbor's backyard. I checked your descriptions. Those are perfect. You explained every tool and you shared their link. Thanks again.
It looks like a great job. But i fear for the longevity of the project. I have made a similar deck. Over time moisture warped the wood. It cracked the decking. It lasted abt 4 years. Eventually we ripped it all out. Dug up all the concrete, 30 cm deep. Filled it with stabilization and tiled it.
I used the exact same decking from Lowes. Since you opted not to use the expensive screw and plug system for face-nailing, you may be able to try the colored wax crayons that are available for covering nail holes and scratches on stained wood. You can find them in the wood filler section in the paint dept. They also make color putty in small jars that works well. You can blend the various colors together to get the exact shade desired. Not sure if it will hold up to the heat outside, but you have nothing to lose by trying it.
Sure, it won’t last particularly long due to the contact with concrete etc, and I would never do it this way…. HOWEVER, it’s nice for now, AND you could always disassemble, reframe and reassemble the decking if you need to. I feel like this is a great project for a renter with a 3-5 year lease, since it’s not permanently atttched.
Красиво! Но всё сгниет через 5лет. Дерево уложено без изоляции и вентзазора. Необходимо было приподнять всю конструкцию от земли. Либо использовать композитные материалы для лаг, но не дерево.
I see that the composite deck being fitted to a conventional wooden frame resting on the concrete slab. The deck won't rot indeed. What about the frame? Even more since there is no dewatering between the frame...
Not bad for a home handyman. Even treated timber doesn't like living in puddles which it will in the wet season. How does the water get out? And the lack of airflow underneath won't help?? Being composite you'll get away with decking hard to the cladding normally best to have a small gap. Looks nice though
2:49 Near the corner joint there is 90°metal plate about 7" from the corner. What's that metal plate about? What's it's function? What would you have done if the last space's width was less than the width of a deck board?
I am glad that someone saw these plates. I used them as spacers to protect the lumber’s from the floor. I actually added those under most of the joists. I would rip it down using my table saw
The deck looks really nice. But you have made some big errors im afraid that will greatly reduce the lifespan of the deck. Firstly you haven't left any gaps around the edges for expansion as it is a composite deck and will expand and contract quite abit which could warp the boards as they get tighter. Secondly The timbers are sat directly on the floor so will rot x10 faster and thirdly you havent put any damp proofing on top of the joist prior to putting the boards down. So although you have used tanalised timber they will start to rot after a few years Greatly reducing the lifespan 😭 sorry to be the barer of bad news
Thank you for your respectful comment. I just tried to do my best. The door threshold is too low so there was no way I could add posts. I might use some stepping stones as spacers. Thank you
I will cut a bevel on the deck boards going into the picture frame which gives the appearance of a tight fit where only the point is contacting..been building custom decks for over 5 years with no issues
I would be a little worried as that looks like it's sitting just above the dpc. Ie damp proof course and also the beck floor doesn't look like it's pressure treated timber so in no time at all it will bounce and rot
No leveling needed, but I could add rubber spacers at the bottom. Thank you. I actually corrected all of my mistakes on the second deck video I posted.
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Sitting the full length of the board in the ground is not good. Even if it’s sitting on concrete.. water can pool and rot the wood, even if it’s pressure treated..
Being an old gal who has more time than money, I’ve become dependent on these videos. I’ve replaced my garbage disposal, tiled kitchen backsplash, tiled shower, installed crown molding throughout my house and repaired my lawnmower, just to name a few. Decking over my old concretely back porch is next, and this is how I intend to do it.
Thank you for sharing your experiences. Since my door threshold was about 6” I couldn’t add stepping stones under each joists to protect the bottom frame. Please ensure enough spacing for drainage and air circulation. Thank you again
If anyone is planning to build a deck like this using Trex, please make sure to place your floor joists closer together, say 12 inches, instead of 16 inches as these boards have lots of give to them and you'll soon see a sag forming between the joists. I learned the hard way.
I wish I knew it before I built mine. Thank you though.
@@DanielDemir Good thing is you can always add more support below
I built a big deck on 16 inch centers with trex......definitely needs to be 12 inch centers. The sagging started immediately
Dear all, after building the frame I waited about 2 weeks to watch the drainage, I didn’t see any problems even during heavy rain because the surface of the concrete slab is not even. It has also a very rough surface that allows water flow. Additionally I used some spacers that doesn’t included in the video. Finally, this is a DIY video and it was my first decking experience. Yes I made a lo of mistake but I would not be able learn the best way without trying. Thank you 🙏
You did an awesome job! Great video, thanks for sharing.
I was wondering about the drainage too. I hadn't even thought about the uneven surface of your original patio. It looks great!
Thanks for sharing. Very good video.
Don't sweat it. I'm a DIYer and definitely will be making mistakes. Be proud that you did it. If you don't make mistakes you can never learn from them. 🤫
@@brycecupp9660 Thank you man, I really appreciate your kind words and support.
I love watching people build things wrong, because that’s exactly how I plan to build. If it can be done that’s all I need to know!
This is the best review ever :) There have been a lot of critics but I am still very happy with the result considering building my first deck. Thank you again
my advice to anyone thinking of doing similar, make sure to raise it of the ground a bit, for water drainage.
I am a carpenter n finish carpenter,he did a very good job.Ive worked with that decking several times n I would have to say he did a perfect job.they sell little matching plugs for the screw holes.
Thank, finally someone appreciate the job I made
Nice job sir, especially for your first deck. Repetition is the mother and father of all learning! I see some harsh comments but I don’t see them doing projects on TH-cam! Keep doing what your doing!
Wow, it is such a great comment and it is very encouraging:) Thank you so much
@@DanielDemir your very welcome, there’s a lot of arm chair quarterbacks out there! You are doing the work, pay no mind to the haters!!
Nice deck but it appears that drainage may be a problem. Treated lumber rots too especially if subject to water immersion. Actually the treatment does not penetrate the wood completely so ripping the boards would expose untreated wood too. Preserative should be applied to the ripped edges.
I don't recommend putting wood directly on concrete were water will be trapped. Even treated will deteriorate without any air flow around it in high moisture environments.
Thank you for your comment. I added some spacers under each joist to increase the air flow and water drainage.
@@DanielDemir May I ask what kind of spacers
By then most of us will be long gone.
за труд ставлю отлично а знания и экономия удовлетворительно
You have done a very good job overall, As a carpenter myself, if you don’t mind mind, I suggest you to use exterior pressure treated lumber as base lumber and cut holes in edge frame to allow water to be drained out. Good luck on this job, and hope you don’t get a called back after 5 years.
I actually was thinking it. Thank you for your comment.
I'm surprised that Mr. Dernir would place his framing directly on the concrete surface -- a sure-fire way to accelerate rot. The Trex looks nice for now, but this isn't likely to be a long-lived deck.
Let’s see your video of doing a deck, oh yeah you don’t have one!
He used pressure treated wood what’s the problem?
It’s pressure treated lumber…it’ll be fine
exactly, unfortunately 3 idiots that commented would have preferred their joists directly on a wet surface.
My thoughts exactly. Pressure treated lumber is not protection aganist moisture, rather insects. When buying pt lumber there are different amounts of chemicals available such as ground contact rates...unfortunately most lumber co.'s carry the material with the least amount of chemicals. Have no doubt this pt frameing will rot.
I have this same composite boards for my deck and we put it together using those clips. For us, it was a big mistake because we have small oak leaves that get caught in the clips. I bought a special tool to clean the leaves between the boards but every tool I have tried does not clean the small leaves from each clip (and we have a lot of them). If I had to do it over again, I would screw in each board side by side instead of the clips (like we did on our front deck). But you made an excellent video. Thanks for sharing.
Yes you are right, it is difficult to deal with the leaves, getting into the deck.
For the first-timer, God bless, excellent job.
Excellent craftsmanship. My knees hurt just watching.
Thank you 🙏
I recommend placing 1" galvanized lag screws all along the bottom of the floor joists. Yes, it a lot but that 1/8" spacing the head of the lag screw provides will keep the wood off the concrete and extend the life of the deck.
Interesting solution. 👍🏼
I don’t know if it’s only me but it’s very relaxing watching these kinds of contents.
Thank you 🙏
You have a big deck!!
ПРИВЕТ ПАРЕНЬ!!!
ОТЛИЧНАЯ РАБОТА...ВЫСШИЙ УРОВЕНЬ ПИЛОТАЖА!!!
Onderkant hout zal nat worden door regenwater of vocht en dan gaat die verrotten misschien verven of hardhout of aluminium bodem kunstig kan ook dan is voor altijd goed
Very nice, I am about to do the same project. One thing I’d do different is to shim the framing, so it is not sitting on the moist concrete and trapping water.
Great i leaned alots from your video iam working in same project next month thank
This looks great. I wish I was 20 again... Thank you for a great video.
Well done it was pure joy watching your video
Thank you very much for your nice words.
Μπράβο ρε παίχτη ! Very beautiful video ! Congartulations !
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Sehr gut, Sie haben besser gemacht. Wenn ich Zeit habe, dann möchte ich das machen. Vielen lieben Dank für Ihre Mühe.
Nice job building that deck....they do make the same screws with a special driver bit that countersinks and bores a hole that you hammer in a plug to finish and the screws can't be seen.
I didn’t know that until I finish mine. Thank you for the feedback.
I think this is certianly one of the better videos about how to diy the deck. Can someone with more expeirence tell me why only 6.2k like over 1.5m views?
You are right, thank you for your support.
Great work better than most of us could do..
Thank you:)
Thanks for all your help
Half a million screws and clips later - it looks great 👍
Thank you for your comment:)
AMazing Job. After watching your video I am planning to install by myself.
I am glad to help
Make sure to leave the recommended spacing or you will be installing it twice all by yourself
@@andrewtemple3738 What is the recommended spacing please?
Just read some of the comments & The amount of unsolicited advice & criticism is amazing, especially coming from non-professionals. Anyway, it looks great & for the amount you spent, it can be done over if needed. I was just quoted $22,500 for a 20x15 ground deck & 5 stairs, so keep up the good work. 🤗
It costed me around $1500 and I learned a lot from it. Again it was my first decking experience and I am very happy with it so far. I understand and respect most of the comments and I will use them as moment of learning. Thank you
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One of the other fix it guys suggested securing each end of the boards first then pushing the centers of the boards and clipping. Seemed easier. Nice result
Thank you for your comment:)
thanks for the good explanation and pint pointed all importance notes, learn a lot, appreciate it
It looks good but personally I would never lay a wooden frame straight onto an old concrete base that could collect water. If you can’t be bothered to break out the concrete to allow for airflow underneath than it has to be a composite frame. Mitred corners need a small expansion joint with composite too
Dear all, after making frame I waited about 2 weeks to watch the drainage, I didn’t see any problems even during heavy rain because the surface of the concrete slab is not even. It has also a very rough surface that allows water flow. Thank you
@@DanielDemir Shirley that wood will suck up any water and rot like hell
Clean work
Great job boys📗📗📗📗📗
professionell work .good Job
Id coat the 2x4 in some used oil. Will help with delaying the bottom framing from rotting sooner
I've been trying to figure out things myself TH-cam is absolutely invaluable. I imagine going all out for this 30ft,er RV or something simple enclosed on the side. I would like to use as much recycled materials as I can. From large metal can concrete peirs too plastic bottle trash bricks pinned in with chicken wire finished with recycled foam and concrete mix. Probably just a tin roof or just a plastic tar tile floor instead of wood framed floor or trex then yeah.
The deck came out absolutely beautiful. Thank you for sharing the process with us. The ONLY thing I would’ve done different was used cortex screws for the edge boards. It would’ve saved you time in pre drilling and it has plugs that match the saddle decking to cover the holes.
Thank you for your comment:) I learned a lot throughout the entire process. We can’t learn without trying. Thank you again
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Yes sure
Awesome… appreciated your sharing
I'm confident I can do this now
Good luck Nd let me know if you need any feedback.
@@DanielDemir question did u sit the frame on top of concrete
@@jonpg28 yes but you can use some stepping stones as spacers.
Good frame
Awesome job
Good job mate!
We want to build your deck's same in my neighbor's backyard. I checked your descriptions. Those are perfect. You explained every tool and you shared their link. Thanks again.
Thank you:) please let me know if you need anything else.
It looks like a great job. But i fear for the longevity of the project.
I have made a similar deck. Over time moisture warped the wood. It cracked the decking. It lasted abt 4 years.
Eventually we ripped it all out. Dug up all the concrete, 30 cm deep. Filled it with stabilization and tiled it.
Wow it is very professional work man
Very very nice 👍 cool good job 👍👍
Thank you 🙏
I used the exact same decking from Lowes. Since you opted not to use the expensive screw and plug system for face-nailing, you may be able to try the colored wax crayons that are available for covering nail holes and scratches on stained wood. You can find them in the wood filler section in the paint dept. They also make color putty in small jars that works well. You can blend the various colors together to get the exact shade desired. Not sure if it will hold up to the heat outside, but you have nothing to lose by trying it.
The holes doesn’t bother me, also since it’s composite material I am also not worried about being rotted. Thank you though 👍👍👍
Hard work, Thanks 🙏🏻
Good job👍🏻
Very good job 👍
Nice deck!
Thank you
Wow... My best friend, Nice video... Beautiful place Enjoy watching this video... Have a nice day.
Sure, it won’t last particularly long due to the contact with concrete etc, and I would never do it this way…. HOWEVER, it’s nice for now, AND you could always disassemble, reframe and reassemble the decking if you need to. I feel like this is a great project for a renter with a 3-5 year lease, since it’s not permanently atttched.
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You have some metal (look like cleats ) on the bottom of the joists, what are they for ? Composite decking , is that a fibre board (MDF) ?
I tried to use them as spacers to increase the water drainage.
Due to 'Trex' decking's lack of rigidity, you should have spaced your floor joist 'sleepers' on 12" centers, otherwise you did a nice job.
Shouldn't there be a small expansion gap between the picture frame joints?
Красиво! Но всё сгниет через 5лет. Дерево уложено без изоляции и вентзазора. Необходимо было приподнять всю конструкцию от земли. Либо использовать композитные материалы для лаг, но не дерево.
MashaAllah, kardeshim cok iyi olmish
This is a beautiful deck, love the way it came out.
I see that the composite deck being fitted to a conventional wooden frame resting on the concrete slab. The deck won't rot indeed. What about the frame? Even more since there is no dewatering between the frame...
Not bad for a home handyman. Even treated timber doesn't like living in puddles which it will in the wet season. How does the water get out? And the lack of airflow underneath won't help?? Being composite you'll get away with decking hard to the cladding normally best to have a small gap. Looks nice though
My thoughts early on when I saw him framing it in. 5 years down the road things are going to start getting squishy. Should have treated it as well.
Niiiice job mate
Very helpful video. Thank you.
2:49 Near the corner joint there is 90°metal plate about 7" from the corner. What's that metal plate about? What's it's function?
What would you have done if the last space's width was less than the width of a deck board?
I am glad that someone saw these plates. I used them as spacers to protect the lumber’s from the floor. I actually added those under most of the joists.
I would rip it down using my table saw
@@DanielDemir Thanks. And a beautiful deck.
I give it 1 winter lifetime tops before starts squaking and sagging.. but looks good tho!!
If my surface is not concrete but ground (dirt), can I place/use this wood for the foundation without worrying about rotting?
You can use it as soon soon use posts to leave some space under the deck for ventilation and water drainage
The finished deck looks awesome. Thanks for the video.
Awesome video brother
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Nice job!
Thank you 🙏
The deck looks really nice. But you have made some big errors im afraid that will greatly reduce the lifespan of the deck. Firstly you haven't left any gaps around the edges for expansion as it is a composite deck and will expand and contract quite abit which could warp the boards as they get tighter. Secondly The timbers are sat directly on the floor so will rot x10 faster and thirdly you havent put any damp proofing on top of the joist prior to putting the boards down. So although you have used tanalised timber they will start to rot after a few years Greatly reducing the lifespan 😭 sorry to be the barer of bad news
Thank you for your respectful comment. I just tried to do my best. The door threshold is too low so there was no way I could add posts. I might use some stepping stones as spacers. Thank you
I will cut a bevel on the deck boards going into the picture frame which gives the appearance of a tight fit where only the point is contacting..been building custom decks for over 5 years with no issues
What a fantastic vid - I'll be tackling this now in a few weeks.
Thank you for your comment:)
Good work! Nice!
Exelent job
Thank you 🙏
Das ist sehr schön. Ausgezeichnet 👍👍
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Very good, thank you
Very nice job. I'll be following your plan when i get ready to do mine.
I would be a little worried as that looks like it's sitting just above the dpc. Ie damp proof course and also the beck floor doesn't look like it's pressure treated timber so in no time at all it will bounce and rot
good wood foothold
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Ellerinize saglik, cok guzel olmus deck.
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Good homeowners work … 👍
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Nice work
Thanks
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Wood sitting on the ground…is that ok? Is it attached to anything? Is it level?
No levelling ? What about using self sticking rubber protection to avoid contact between wood and concrete ?
No leveling needed, but I could add rubber spacers at the bottom. Thank you. I actually corrected all of my mistakes on the second deck video I posted.
Nice video. Welcome to Collierville, TN!
I like it 👍👍👍