I would just like you to know that i have absolutely no interest in drifting. Now having said that i came across your channel on the fummins build and ive been hooked ever since. You make your content so good that i have stuck around and watched everything since. Keep up the great work man!
I came from him working on the trailer and have stayed. He is the content i like watching, not just the car stuff but him as the content is just good to watch him work on things. I also watch the hoofgp trim cows hooves for some reason and i have no reason to watch that but i just like the guy doing it, just like here. LOL its funny why or how we find channels and sub to because of some weird reason.
Bro you deserve a sponsored spot in FD somewhere. Pro 1 or pro, either way you are one hell of a drifting driver!!!!!! Can’t wait to see you get the vet up and out on the track.
Transpose all your wiring diagram stuff into an excel sheet or something that can be edited and changed when you add or change stuff. Love the build, keep it up!
I absolutely love wiring videos! I do electrician work on the side. Automotive and home. I get into more like what you just did. I love making maps and diagrams. Rob dahm had a video that was like 2 hours or something and I watched it 3 or 4 times. I just love watching it come together. I have OCD so something about wiring I cant get enough of!
I tested my harness I made for my ecumaster emu last weekend. It was my first time building a harness from scratch and it was a huge relief to see all the inputs/outputs working correctly.
It’s gonna be one heck of a car when it’s done. I would wire the car the same way. It’s not a production road car and you’ll be changing parts when things break or upgrades become available.
Another reason for concentric twist and filling with dud wires, is the final product is MUCH more flexible than just normal wires in a loom. Can't wait to see the vette start!
FYI for future reference , you want to avoid using a drill to twist bundles of M22759 (Tefzel) wire together like you did. The individual wire strands themselves are already twisted inside the insulation so when you twist them with the drill you are introducing more stress into the individual strands of each conductor (wire).
Word of advice with wiring by going 12-16g wiring you are creating a bottle neck. The general rule of thumb with wiring is you can step up in gauge but not down. By stepping down it creates a potential for fire.
If he’s worried about voltage drop over a distance, and the feeder wire gauge can actually handle the current that’s going to be drawn through them it might be okay. But it’s definitely not the way I’d do it, relay closer to the pumps/fans with a power supply off the bulk head would be way better. Or different bulk head connectors that can take larger wire (I’m a qualified auto elec)
@@haydenryan4225 Tell me if this is correct : The way I would've done is simply split that 12 gauge wire in two of those smaller 16 gauges feeder wires instead of just one like Taylor did, because in my mind that'd be best because you keep as much conductor if not more. You're splitting the load on the connector as well, because from experience my worry would be more on the connector than on the wire, I've temporarily ran undersized wire without too many issues despite it not being recommended, and the wires were never an issue (since I wasn't going too much over their ratings) but the connectors would always heat up or even melt. Edit : This wouldn't really work, just realized this connector goes to the PDM and therefore splitting the wire in two would mean using two outputs... Not ideal. But this raises even more questions, really if the connector of the PDM isn't rated for wires bigger than 16 gauges is it rated for the type of current he's gonna ask from it ? You would think if it can only take 16 gauge it can only take the current that goes with that size wire, wanting to use a bigger wire probably also means you're wanting to use more current than it was designed for...
@@imnota yes that would definitely work, still not ideal. I also thought it was for the bulkhead connector! I’m guessing he’s worried about the voltage drop, just because a wire can cope with (let’s say 20Amps) without melting. When you need that wire to do a run longer than 2 meters or so you need to step it up in order to minimise voltage drop. I use this chart to work out what wire should be used www.rpc.com.au/pdf/Wire_Chart.pdf
Google sheets (or excel) is great for storing this kind of info - no way you can lose it then, plus, it's 100% legible no matter how bad your handwriting!
One of the little touches that doesn’t seem like much but ends up being super helpful is using a label maker and clear heat stink on the connector ends. Yes you know where everything goes but if someone else needs to do some thing it really comes in handy
Best series atm. I think you should paint the car similar type of grey with maybe some flakes or just the same than everywhere else. Would look rad and match and be so clean😛
If you havn't already done so, put the rear wire bulkhead, just under the passenger side roll cage bar that goes through the firewall. This would allow you to run your wires on the rollcage, which would keep it looking super clean, but also easy to service (using removeable zipties). Cant wait to hear this thing roar, and see it slide! Your videos are literally my highlights in weekly entertainment. car zen.
Good stuff as usual Taylor! I would suggest using a flat copper bar (bus bar) with some shrink tube on it between the ground bulkhead and the emergency breaker. That will be 2 connectors you won't have to crimp and worry about chasing ground gremlings. Maybe even tinning the ends to help battle corrosion.
I’ve been watching Taylor for like 3 years now I’ve never been more hyped for when he drops vids. I can’t wait to for the finished project I’m ready for Taylor rip the Freedom factory.
I LOVE THE GEEKED OUT NERDY SPECS! The über detail you go thru is amazing. Greatly helpful to build confidence for when I need to do something, may not be as detailed but helps nonetheless. Thanks Taylor.
I don't know what you're going to loom the harness with but if it's a tape make sure you wrap the harness with the "bends" in it. Some of those tight bend radius will fight you once wrapped. Love the videos and can't wait to see the C6 fire up.
taylor spray copper weldthrough primer where you ground back the paint. you do this for 2 reasons 1 it will not allow the bare metal to oxidise and rust and 2nd it makes for a perfect grounding being copper keep up the great content cheers from down under
This helped a lot about to do my wiring and didn't want to run a big guage wire to an ugly battery cutoff switch on the outside of vehicle. Cant wait to see this car at KK. I guarantee my Is300 won't be able to run away from this thing like I did the Cefiro haha.
I know people touched on it already, but the wire size is based on amperage and the more current the circuit draws the more heat it will create. The insulation type and wire size determine how the wire will dissipate heat. In A/C wiring all the termination and insulation ratings (temp) have to be the same too.
I was thinking to coat the metal where you ground the paint away to mount the solid state kill switch. I imagine sharkhide (what people coat fab tables with) would work but I know there was a PB product you used that’ll probably do the trick too.
Amazing informational content, taylor ray for the win no more chit chat time to work gotta love this guy explains what hes doing to a t he should be an engineer.
looking good - the only thing i would say is have multiple gnd and make sure everything is properly fused and record all the data - think about having lites on sep small lithium battery that can trickle charge from a small panel - consider a rasp pi with bluetooth and wifi - you can use it as a backup for all the sw and fw
With your wiring diagram you should either take a photo or with a scan app on your phone scan all the docs and save them as a pdf on your phone. That way its always accessible and you can print it off again if needed. But if you are at the track and forget the hard copies you are not stuffed. I do this often ( very often as i have CRAFTS … cant remember a f thing) saves me many times at work.
being a comp car you should add in 1 or 2 extra wires in areas that could be affected by a crash ie O2 sensors oil pressure or whatnot so if a quick repair is needed you have it in the loom alredy
I'm glad to see a new video, but at the rate things are going I really don't see the vette being ready for this season. I'm really rooting for you to get it done. I really hope you can use it in the next round 🙏 🙂. Keep up the good work.
That is some mighty fine wiring you got going on. I know you hate doing it, but I could spend hours wiring up a car from scratch. It looks fun! Can't wait to see you taking it for its first drive.
If you do in fact need 12 ga wire, those 16 ga feeder wires are going to cause you problems. You'll notice it on your higher draw components when you're pushing them.
For how short a drift run is they will probably be fine. Although I'm not sure how accurate it is to say short wires will heat up less than longer wires. Sure a shorter wire has less resistance but it also has less surface area to dissipate heat...
@@NNFaNRacing Yeah, it's a short run but everything is at max power during that run. Also, not sure on his setup but the fuses could be rated for the 12ga wire, which would make the 16 ga the weak link and that could fail. If he's not using the capacity of the 12ga, then no big deal, it's just a bit of a waste having the bigger wire. But again, no big deal.
The difference in doing a Concentric twist harness is that you would probably be using Tefzel wire. That would more the save the weight of the added wires with smaller gauge and lighter wires.
Can you pull the scales out and reveal what the currant weight is without fenders and such? Definitely the most satisfying build to watch. Really looking forward to when its finally finished! Awesome work Taylor! Also any plans on having a C6 build t-shirt in the coming months?
I'm just saying but I used to do what you did for another size wire on a thicker wire to fit into the connector and I realized that I can just cut off the shielding and cut off little sections of the wire from the inside to make it smaller to the same size as what it needs to be so I can be the same color wire
Question: is your passenger header going to now clear your alternator with the new heat management shielding on it ?? I've been meaning to ask since I saw you mount that alternator.. I'm highly interested. Looks tight in there.
I know it's backseat building but, I really hope you tested continuity on all of those wires you spliced. Would be suck if there was something wrong and you found out later.
I need to build my PDM chassis harness and I just keep putting if off because it seems so daunting. Looks like I just needs to sit down and get it all planned out. Props to a clean looking harness in the drift vette. Can't wait to see the hotside coating also, how's that coming?
I would just like you to know that i have absolutely no interest in drifting. Now having said that i came across your channel on the fummins build and ive been hooked ever since. You make your content so good that i have stuck around and watched everything since. Keep up the great work man!
Same, except it was the LS Miata build movie.
That’s real now
Yup same here
I came from him working on the trailer and have stayed. He is the content i like watching, not just the car stuff but him as the content is just good to watch him work on things. I also watch the hoofgp trim cows hooves for some reason and i have no reason to watch that but i just like the guy doing it, just like here. LOL its funny why or how we find channels and sub to because of some weird reason.
Same!!
Bro you deserve a sponsored spot in FD somewhere. Pro 1 or pro, either way you are one hell of a drifting driver!!!!!! Can’t wait to see you get the vet up and out on the track.
Pro 1 is pro
Lol
@@24kNick I think we can all agree he meant Pro 2
he's definitely one hell of a driver either way, look at adam, dude cant hang with the pros
@@tylerturnmire8613 he is struggling but, he's getting better, and starting to keep up with them...
some of my favorite car content on youtube, little jibber jabber, straight in your face to the point. keep it up tay
Happy to see you having a new sponsor!
Wow, 500 bucks for a battery Killswitch is a tough pill to swallow
Taylor! I've done some wiring... it gets your head spinning! You are clearly an intelligent guy. Props to you for taking this on yourself!
Transpose all your wiring diagram stuff into an excel sheet or something that can be edited and changed when you add or change stuff. Love the build, keep it up!
Agreed. The handwriting is clean and it's laminated - but why not a spreadsheet. Then maybe post it on a cheap screen in the shop
I absolutely love wiring videos! I do electrician work on the side. Automotive and home. I get into more like what you just did. I love making maps and diagrams. Rob dahm had a video that was like 2 hours or something and I watched it 3 or 4 times. I just love watching it come together. I have OCD so something about wiring I cant get enough of!
Google sheets or Excel is your best friend when tracking wiring pinouts. Also really good for tracking parts orders and build cost.
I tested my harness I made for my ecumaster emu last weekend. It was my first time building a harness from scratch and it was a huge relief to see all the inputs/outputs working correctly.
It’s gonna be one heck of a car when it’s done. I would wire the car the same way. It’s not a production road car and you’ll be changing parts when things break or upgrades become available.
Another reason for concentric twist and filling with dud wires, is the final product is MUCH more flexible than just normal wires in a loom. Can't wait to see the vette start!
Same here! Started with the fummins build, never left.
Wiring a car is something I have always wanted to do. Loving watching you tackle this
FYI for future reference , you want to avoid using a drill to twist bundles of M22759 (Tefzel) wire together like you did. The individual wire strands themselves are already twisted inside the insulation so when you twist them with the drill you are introducing more stress into the individual strands of each conductor (wire).
Word of advice with wiring by going 12-16g wiring you are creating a bottle neck. The general rule of thumb with wiring is you can step up in gauge but not down. By stepping down it creates a potential for fire.
I see why this car isn't done yet! All that darn jibber jabbering! 😂
I would check with some folks about that feeder wire thing and measure the loaded current before you drive
That was my thoughts. I've had to do it in a bind and it melted the wires down and I only dropped down one gauge.
Agreed. I’ve always used relays in situations like this to protect the thinner gauge feeder wires.
If he’s worried about voltage drop over a distance, and the feeder wire gauge can actually handle the current that’s going to be drawn through them it might be okay.
But it’s definitely not the way I’d do it, relay closer to the pumps/fans with a power supply off the bulk head would be way better. Or different bulk head connectors that can take larger wire (I’m a qualified auto elec)
@@haydenryan4225
Tell me if this is correct :
The way I would've done is simply split that 12 gauge wire in two of those smaller 16 gauges feeder wires instead of just one like Taylor did, because in my mind that'd be best because you keep as much conductor if not more.
You're splitting the load on the connector as well, because from experience my worry would be more on the connector than on the wire, I've temporarily ran undersized wire without too many issues despite it not being recommended, and the wires were never an issue (since I wasn't going too much over their ratings) but the connectors would always heat up or even melt.
Edit : This wouldn't really work, just realized this connector goes to the PDM and therefore splitting the wire in two would mean using two outputs... Not ideal. But this raises even more questions, really if the connector of the PDM isn't rated for wires bigger than 16 gauges is it rated for the type of current he's gonna ask from it ? You would think if it can only take 16 gauge it can only take the current that goes with that size wire, wanting to use a bigger wire probably also means you're wanting to use more current than it was designed for...
@@imnota yes that would definitely work, still not ideal.
I also thought it was for the bulkhead connector!
I’m guessing he’s worried about the voltage drop, just because a wire can cope with (let’s say 20Amps) without melting.
When you need that wire to do a run longer than 2 meters or so you need to step it up in order to minimise voltage drop.
I use this chart to work out what wire should be used www.rpc.com.au/pdf/Wire_Chart.pdf
Google sheets (or excel) is great for storing this kind of info - no way you can lose it then, plus, it's 100% legible no matter how bad your handwriting!
Still my favorite TH-cam channel, love to have it running in my shop while working on my projects, thanks Taylor
Great videos as always 👌. I can't believe a little kill switch cost 500$
Seen the test fitting of the seats inside the car made it real
One of the little touches that doesn’t seem like much but ends up being super helpful is using a label maker and clear heat stink on the connector ends. Yes you know where everything goes but if someone else needs to do some thing it really comes in handy
If you need 12GA wire, your going to smoke those 16GA wire reducers.
If anything goes south they’ll be like little fuses.
Exactly the point I just made in a separate comment. That 16 gauge piece is actually potentially dangerous
Definitely the most underrated TH-camr! Keep it up TR
Best series atm. I think you should paint the car similar type of grey with maybe some flakes or just the same than everywhere else. Would look rad and match and be so clean😛
That grey looks so good on anything
He's doing black with white livery
Hooooooly your work has come a long way these last few years! That wiring loom came out so tidily! Bloody well done Taylor 👏👏
This build is definetely my favorite ever on this platform. The videos are soooo, so good.
If you havn't already done so, put the rear wire bulkhead, just under the passenger side roll cage bar that goes through the firewall. This would allow you to run your wires on the rollcage, which would keep it looking super clean, but also easy to service (using removeable zipties). Cant wait to hear this thing roar, and see it slide! Your videos are literally my highlights in weekly entertainment. car zen.
I hope you have yourself extra length. If I’m not mistaken, twisting is gonna shorten the length of those pre measured cuts.
You two are killing it with this build! I am really looking forward to the first rips and the whole process of dialing it in!
Sir.. you are the jack of all trades
Just bought a 750whp 08 vette over the weekend hyped to finish up the little things it needs and race it myself
Good stuff as usual Taylor!
I would suggest using a flat copper bar (bus bar) with some shrink tube on it between the ground bulkhead and the emergency breaker.
That will be 2 connectors you won't have to crimp and worry about chasing ground gremlings.
Maybe even tinning the ends to help battle corrosion.
Killing it Taylor respect to you love the content
Legit the only TH-camr I get excited to watch now
Cartek is like 20 min from my house so when I was building the truck it was a huge help. They have a ton of stuff and super helpful staff
I’ve been watching Taylor for like 3 years now I’ve never been more hyped for when he drops vids. I can’t wait to for the finished project I’m ready for Taylor rip the Freedom factory.
Taylor you are one of the best TH-camrs by far! Keep up the great work, building cars and driving… Good things come to good people!
I LOVE THE GEEKED OUT NERDY SPECS! The über detail you go thru is amazing. Greatly helpful to build confidence for when I need to do something, may not be as detailed but helps nonetheless. Thanks Taylor.
this car is gonna be such an animal i’m so hyped to see it goin!
Amazing this build coming along can’t wait to see it shred
Cant wait to see you ripping this thing. Great content as always!
I don't know what you're going to loom the harness with but if it's a tape make sure you wrap the harness with the "bends" in it. Some of those tight bend radius will fight you once wrapped.
Love the videos and can't wait to see the C6 fire up.
The Corvette is turning out great. Wiring can be mind boggling (as you know) but appreciate all that work you and “Hoseway” did. Cheers.
Those seats look so good in there well the whole thing looks amazing LoL great job dude 😎👍
Take a heat gun across the wires when you twist them. It well help aid in keeping them twisted neatly. 🤙🏻
taylor spray copper weldthrough primer where you ground back the paint. you do this for 2 reasons 1 it will not allow the bare metal to oxidise and rust and 2nd it makes for a perfect grounding being copper keep up the great content cheers from down under
You are doing a great job on the wiring. Very impressive.
This helped a lot about to do my wiring and didn't want to run a big guage wire to an ugly battery cutoff switch on the outside of vehicle. Cant wait to see this car at KK. I guarantee my Is300 won't be able to run away from this thing like I did the Cefiro haha.
This is some of the best content on TH-cam, great explanations, and beautiful work. Keep it up.
Harnesses look like candy 🤤
Keep up the great work Taylor. Always look forward to your videos. Great stuff. Can't wait to hear this beast run.
I look forward so much for your videos Taylor Ray.
Can’t wait to finally hear this start for the first time!!!!
I know people touched on it already, but the wire size is based on amperage and the more current the circuit draws the more heat it will create. The insulation type and wire size determine how the wire will dissipate heat. In A/C wiring all the termination and insulation ratings (temp) have to be the same too.
Woooh! I got sick today, so glad you came in clutch with a video.
Hope you didn't come down with Jibber Jabberitis! Taylor is a superspreader.
@@SirVic42 haha! I've been stuck with that for forever.
This is something new unfortunately.
I'm glad others have written about the feeder wire thing, that's super sketchy.
Most slept on person of all time
Every time he cuts to a time-lapse and the generic workshop noises that play over it make these videos even more amazing.
I was thinking to coat the metal where you ground the paint away to mount the solid state kill switch. I imagine sharkhide (what people coat fab tables with) would work but I know there was a PB product you used that’ll probably do the trick too.
Best car channel on the tube!! 👌👍
Amazing informational content, taylor ray for the win no more chit chat time to work gotta love this guy explains what hes doing to a t he should be an engineer.
looking good - the only thing i would say is have multiple gnd and make sure everything is properly fused and record all the data - think about having lites on sep small lithium battery that can trickle charge from a small panel - consider a rasp pi with bluetooth and wifi - you can use it as a backup for all the sw and fw
With your wiring diagram you should either take a photo or with a scan app on your phone scan all the docs and save them as a pdf on your phone. That way its always accessible and you can print it off again if needed.
But if you are at the track and forget the hard copies you are not stuffed.
I do this often ( very often as i have CRAFTS … cant remember a f thing) saves me many times at work.
eBay motors sponsor??????? YEAAAAAAA let’s go Taylor
You should scan the wire diagrams into your notes so you have it on hand whenever also
Looking so clean now rest idea with the light strips!
being a comp car you should add in 1 or 2 extra wires in areas that could be affected by a crash ie O2 sensors oil pressure or whatnot so if a quick repair is needed you have it in the loom alredy
Thanks Taylor.
You need to look into pull up lap belt harnesses if you really want that extra ease of adjusting belts in the car.
Love the detail, great work.
I'm glad to see a new video, but at the rate things are going I really don't see the vette being ready for this season. I'm really rooting for you to get it done. I really hope you can use it in the next round 🙏 🙂. Keep up the good work.
That is some mighty fine wiring you got going on. I know you hate doing it, but I could spend hours wiring up a car from scratch. It looks fun! Can't wait to see you taking it for its first drive.
I like that battery disconnect switch so small
I’m looking forward to seeing the colour and livery you put on this corvette 😎
If you do in fact need 12 ga wire, those 16 ga feeder wires are going to cause you problems. You'll notice it on your higher draw components when you're pushing them.
For how short a drift run is they will probably be fine. Although I'm not sure how accurate it is to say short wires will heat up less than longer wires. Sure a shorter wire has less resistance but it also has less surface area to dissipate heat...
@@NNFaNRacing Yeah, it's a short run but everything is at max power during that run. Also, not sure on his setup but the fuses could be rated for the 12ga wire, which would make the 16 ga the weak link and that could fail. If he's not using the capacity of the 12ga, then no big deal, it's just a bit of a waste having the bigger wire. But again, no big deal.
Personally, I would’ve used relays from the feeder wires.
Taylor you never disappoint with quality content.
okay. i love how you used the ebay sponsor to work into your video. all other youtube channels, take notes from Mr. Ray
I would put a thin coat of dielectric grease under the kill switch to prevent rust and corrosion
I see Taylor Ray video, I click. It's simple :P Especially if it's a drift vette build video or comp vlog!
Early as it gets boys
getting there Taylor
Awesome video man!
The difference in doing a Concentric twist harness is that you would probably be using Tefzel wire. That would more the save the weight of the added wires with smaller gauge and lighter wires.
Can you pull the scales out and reveal what the currant weight is without fenders and such? Definitely the most satisfying build to watch. Really looking forward to when its finally finished! Awesome work Taylor!
Also any plans on having a C6 build t-shirt in the coming months?
Just a suggestion about the power button by the shift. Maybe make a cover for it so you do hit it by accident while driving. Just an idea.
I'm just saying but I used to do what you did for another size wire on a thicker wire to fit into the connector and I realized that I can just cut off the shielding and cut off little sections of the wire from the inside to make it smaller to the same size as what it needs to be so I can be the same color wire
Question: is your passenger header going to now clear your alternator with the new heat management shielding on it ?? I've been meaning to ask since I saw you mount that alternator.. I'm highly interested. Looks tight in there.
@TaylorRayDrifts where did you get the ignition/starter switch box from?
Tire street needs to sponsor you!!!!!
well done with the wire twisting!!!!
And this, is how you properly do a partnership boys.
Which dry break fittings did you use for the oil lines?
Just a thought you might put some dielectric grease under the solid state relay to maintain good electrical contact
I know it's backseat building but, I really hope you tested continuity on all of those wires you spliced. Would be suck if there was something wrong and you found out later.
I can't believe how expensive that little thing is
I need to build my PDM chassis harness and I just keep putting if off because it seems so daunting. Looks like I just needs to sit down and get it all planned out. Props to a clean looking harness in the drift vette. Can't wait to see the hotside coating also, how's that coming?
Have you thought about fire suppression? Eg: Colette Davis fire etc.
iirc he said that he was on the fence due to time but then that incident put him over the fence and he did/plans on get one
Hopefully you get it done intime for Round 1 of Klutch Kickers!!
what is the current rating for that solid state relay? and is the chassis ground equipped to handle that.?