Moe once owned 39 course records in Canada....on one exhibition at a driving range....2 posts 40 yards apart at 240 yards he hit driver 1500 times for SEVEN hours and NOT ONE. drive finished outside of either post! truly a golf savant.
I counted 30 balls on the green. I would estimate 20 were within maybe 7 to 8 feet. Most of those within 5 feet. A couple maybe 10 feet. The others maybe 20 to 25 feet or so. Pretty good for an old man hitting from 70 yards away. All 30 shots on the green. If a pro was 20 yards or so from the pin that would be pretty good. I doubt many pros could do that from 70 yards. Maybe. Some of the very best. His consistency is amazing. His ball striking second to none.
@@eddiestevens3220 One thing is for sure, Moe Norman wasn't bat shit crazy. When is the last time Titlest or any other Corporation gave you $5,000 per month for life? Or paid you $2,500 a month for representing Natural Golf or any other organization. You wish you were bat shit crazy like Moe Norman.
Titleist gave him that money as the way they saw it it was good publicity to do a sympathy sponsorship with him . Any way would you invite that crazy fucker round for dinner in your home .. don't think so 😄😄
I am right handed, and I started playing golf what they call left handed. I had a problem with body rotation and slicing the ball. So I switched to right handed position. Dominant hand does not like to be in a position below not dominant hand. Took me months to get used to having left hand dominate right hand.
i saw Moe demonstrate his skills three different times, and was totally in awe. Someone from the audience asked Moe to hook or slice and bring the ball back to the fairway. Moe said "why would I do that, when I can hit straight down the middle of the fairway to begin with".
One of the most impressive things I’ve ever seen. Most Moe Norman videos don’t show the result of his swings, but this is truly incredible. Is he not the greatest ball striker of all time? Thank you for this gem.
must have been astounding to witness in person. Love that you guys left the comments in...."I wish he'd slow down a little".....nah, he was just gonna do his thing and you guys did a great job adapting to his pace. Nice work!
Although the easy pin location and backstop seemed to exaggerate Moe's accuracy....The man is a savant. He read what his eyes saw. He saw the backstop so he kept hitting it to the same distance and used the backstop. Why change the distance when the ball ends up 3 feet from the hole?
apart from being brilliant at golf,hes a lovely man ,seems very happy and polite.all the great players say hes the best striker ,what more can anyone else say .RIP Moe
kev ward I played Rockway a lot as a teen and he was always ready to help out or give tips to the Juniors. One of the greatest "what if's" in sports without question. Always will be in my eyes.
I know a guy who knew Moe. He said when he was a kid, he and other kids would stand out on the driving range with a baseball glove. Moe would tell them to hold the glove in the air and not move. Moe would then hit ball after ball into the glove on the fly. Said it was the most amazing thing he’s EVER seen done with a golf club.
I did a rough count 34 balls hit 34 on the green 25 within 8 feet (76%) 19 within 5 feet (56%) The ball flight he takes is also much harder then hitting a conventional wedge shot, he is hitting it much lower. It's purely based on feel.
@@yogamon Pppppffff... You could have the same results? I doubt most pros could have the same results after 34 shots. Not just distance control, most never left the stick! You can't deny how good this man was... "Backstop" or not, you can't match this consistency
@@yogamonyes but if you watch all the balls even the ones that got help from behind wouldn’t have went to far past the hole and there wasn’t that many overall. This was impressive but your point is well taken.
First time ive seen moe hitting to a green. Absolutely fantastic. He was the best. I wish i could of seen him live. Great video. Thanks. I wonder if there are any more unseen videos of moe. I had seen everyone except this one. It was incredible. Thanks again. I am trying his swing now.
I just can't believe it some people tried so hard to discredit his talent. If he wasn't strike the ball perfect it would more likely roll over the green. You saw that even these balls has very low trajectory it still came down soft and let the nature sloped to take care of.
Ok: So I have been playing for about 50 years. Just yesterday, I gave this a real try, the one plane idea. I stretched my arms and tried to get myself in a similar position to Moe's at address. I worked at it for about an hour on the range and then shot even par 36 on our front nine with missing 5 putts inside of 10 feet. Seriously never hit the ball so straight. I was so impressed I continued and hit another 200 balls at the range. At 64 years young, the game is beginning again.
Moe only played in 1 senior event , he finished 3rd. He wouldn't fly therefore he could have only played a shortened schedule. He was amazing, as I tell people , it is not how straight he hit it, it's how he never hit it crooked.
The pga wanted to suppress Moe because he didn't need a coach and they can't make money unless they constantly tell you that golf is hard and you will suck unless you get lessons. Moe had tremendous dedication and a positive attitude and that's all you really need to accomplish anything.
Thanks. 43 course records, 3 scores in the 50s. Good player for anytime. Like a great billards player Moe never needed to hit the shots Tiger did or does.
that's also exactly why Tiger said what he says about Moe being scary for knowing every day when he got up he was going to hit great shots, every time! Tiger knows he can't do that! Though I know he could, if he would get on the Moe Norman, single plane train he could easily break Nicklaus' records!
Nonesense. Moe has a classic swing in the mold of a Hogan that only differs at setup due to beliefs Moe had. He does the same kind of things Trevino and Hogan did in their heydays. I don't know why everyone gets so caught up in the goofy setup because it is NOT what makes him good. But that isn't as good of a story I suppose, and it can't be monetized by nobody's like Todd Graves.
I've watched this video of Moe hitting wedge's so many times and I’m always so amazed. I tried to track each shot and the result based om distance to the hole, which is quite hard if you have watched the video. Here is what I came up with. 33 shots hit. 1@ 40ft 1@ 30ft 3@ 20ft 5@ 15ft 5@ 10ft 18 shots were less than 10 feet from the pin. Correct me if I am wrong! Moe was awesome!
Totally agree. I played 50 + rounds with Moe, he was the real thing, Brandel Chambly just rnentioned his name about an hour ago. It was a different game then, more want for accuracy..
Hey Blain , appreciate your opinion, I was there,he never hit that Cobra wedge before those shots. There was a slope he used it beautifully, it was very impressive. Cheers Mark
Dr Jones Look at the shot hit at 3:22. It is rolling forward then slows and rolls backwards 5 feet! Look again st 4:45, the green must be incredibly sloped back to front. If he lands then anywhere within 25 feet of the hole, the heavily sloped green automatically brings it to within 10 feet. Most tour pros can hit a land a ball within 25 feet from 70ish yards, calling him the best ballstrikier of all time is hilarious.
Sean H you have no idea.. he could do with with his driver aswell. Keep your uneducated opinions to yourself. Only ben hogan ever rivalled this man in ballstriking. No question, pros would stop there practice to watch this man hit balls.
Yea you're right he was soooo good his 0 PGATOUR wins and 0 made cuts at majors prove he was the best!! Hahahaha not my fault you're too unitelligent to realize being a range rat and good on mini-tours is still far below that of most PGATOUR pros
Mark: I have known of Moe all my life. Followed him actually at the 1966 Open at Shaughnessy. I have a very close friend who played with him on the Canadian Tour many years ago. Hoping the weather warms a little today as can't wait to get out there again.
I had the opportunity to watch Moe Norman on several occasions hit golf balls at Royal Oaks GC in Titusville FL where he spent many winters. On one occasion hit approximately 50 balls with a 7 iron to a flag on the range. This flag was 145 yards from where he was hitting from that day into a slight breeze. Moe hit 95% of those balls within a 10 - 15 foot radius of the flag. Many were within 5 - 7 feet. Now for you naysayers I tried the same 50 balls and as a 4.1 index at the time I can tell you that from my own personal experience I achieved less than 25% within the same 10 -15 foot range. Moe was a genius although at the time he really didn't understand that he was. Moe was different with an odd golf swing that didn't fit into the mainstream theories about how one should swing a golf club. There are many ways to swing a golf club. Look at the swings of Trevino, Sneed, Hogan, Player, Palmer, Watson, Woods and Jack. Watch their videos and tell me that they are all the same. Nope you can't do it. They are all different as is Moe Norman. So just sit back and enjoy the video of one of the greatest ball strikers of all time.
Saw him in Titusville too & that range has signs showing yardages but Moe would hit shots at those signs calling how many bounces before the shot went under the sign & nearly every time he was right. So impressive!
Forgive me in advance, but anyone using the "yeah, but he had a slope" excuse is conspiracy theorist as well as a total Debbie Downer. The guy is not a 24 year old golf Adonis, he's an old man here (RIP)! And he just happens to be the best ball striker in history, a golfing legend. My son was taught by a pro who was Moe's protege in Canada. Although my son incorporated more modern movements, he will always go through the ball like Moe. If you see any negativity in these shots, just try to duplicate them. Geez, get your club pro to try and even come close.
ive read and heard is was tour politics. I think he had a type of social disorder like asberger's and he didnt really fit in to the tour and what they wanted so they kinda screwed him over. He was described as being able to hit a driver down the middle of the fairway and then hit a second driver that ended up right next to his first drive. Guy was freakin a golf genius.
Pretty impressive I've been playing for a long time and I never heard of Moe Norman just ran across him on you tube. I seen lot post here talking out of there butt's.With the clubs and golf ball's they had back then and being in his age not many people could do this shot I promise you he could make that shot with out a back stop. Just watch some of his videos and look at how many balls this man hits I bet most of you cant hit a med size bucket! The blisters on his hands tells me he loved this game more then any other man I have seen that my friends is DEDICATION!
David Coley All that matters is what happens at impact. He stays on shaft plane during entry and exit, which many tour players try to achieve but is difficult to do at high club speeds. Hance why Moe could never make it on the main tour and stuck to the minis
I have been studying Moe for 12-yrs and just noticed that he said in Kirk Junge's video, at a private Natural Instructors clinic in Florida during 2000, that he got his swing from Manuel de la Torre's father, Angel, Manuel and Edward Jones. Correction: on the second name, it was Ernest Jones not Edward Jones. Ernest was from the UK and lost his right leg, below the knee during a battle, in 1915, as a soldier. He spent four months in the hospital, then went to the golf course on crutches and shot 83. He was totally amazed at his own accomplishment !!! (Note that Moe wasn't born until 1929). A short while after, Ernest was playing par 72 golf, once again. He was a good player, a golf club maker and then a teacher. He says everyone's swing will be slightly different but to a) "swing the clubhead", b) "hit the ball past the head" and the brain will figure out the body / muscle mechanics to hit the ball, similar to how we all use a hammer to hit a nail. Just like Sir Walter Thompson thought, in 1887, Ernest said, "...we don't need to know how every component in our body or muscles work to use them efficiently." As I understand his method, It is a 'club / tool based' concept rather than a 'body, bone / muscle based' concept. Absolutely fascinating to me....I have a lot more to learn, now....
donjvalley "club / tool based concept" I think is spot on. I think the human body/mind is built for using tools. Humans take to tools like fish to water IMHO.
I have copied MOE in my own way. I looked at Moe's swing and tried to come as close as I could. I am playing the best golf of my life. Some would say it is not the same. The results are working better than the million instruction teachers on YOU TUBE. I don't finish way up in the air like MOE. One of best things I have don't is hit at least 3 buckets of balls every day. Remember Hogan saying get in the dirt or something close to it! That made me improve as much as anything. I am winning avg 4 scats a round with my group.
yep Hogan said the secret is in the dirt, meaning you have to hit a lot of balls! Just like Moe always said, "a great golf swing can never be bought or stolen, you have to earn it!"
I'd fancy most tour pro's to be able to duplicate this from that distance, with that amount of green and with the slope bleeding balls back to the cup. However, it's an impressive display, especially at the age Moe was when he did it.
In this vid Moe doesn t seem to have the straight plane look on his lead side. His address seems 2 have a slight V in it which indicates a deviation from the swing plane. (Hands closer 2 the body as in conventional setup. ????????
Fair enough, I don't doubt his ability, its documented enough. Sometimes the mystery and legend of golf stories can get people carried away with the realism of it. Lots of people compare this guy to modern pros, I just think that's hard to do, such a different game now.
I love all the negative comments about green slope,no wind and other statements to take away from this proformance. Line up your best players and do this....I didn't think so
In 1956 alone, Moe Norman set NINE course records, shot 61 in tournament play FOUR TIMES, and won 17 of 26 tournaments, shooting a combined score of -52 (52 under par). Moe Norman’s career includes playing in The Masters twice, winning back to back Canadian Amateur Championships, won 56 tournaments, shot 59 THREE TIMES, made 17 HOLES IN ONE, holds a total of 33 COURSE RECORDS, and is called THE BEST BALL STRIKER EVER by the likes of Tiger Woods, Ben Hogan, Sam Snead, Lee Trevino, etc., etc., etc.
So many great golfers in this TH-cam comment section, assuming everyone talking about the slope in the back of the green can also hit that many balls as close as Moe did. What Moe displayed here was impressive, leave it at that.
The current leader as of this comment on the PGA tour from 100-125 yards is on average 15', 8" from the hole. Also consider the ball he was hitting here vrs what they play today. Huge difference.
This is pretty impressive for his age and I love Moe . But a few years ago at the Australian open I watched , Scott , McIllroy ,Speith and a bunch of other pros in the practice area and they would have done this easy . I was amazed at how great the pros actually are . Not to take any thing away from Moe but the pros today with their modern swings are just as good if not better because they are more athletic But id like to see them do this well in their 60s like Moe . For me Moe is the King !!
johnathan wetherill Modern players are awesome. But clubs & balls get bet better & better. And instruction is more available and they keep learning. They learn from each other. Knowledge increases (Daniel 12:4 😉) . One good bet you can make about his detractors, no two: they are young, and they are uninformed.
Better equipment, more standardized training, modern knowledge on knowledge and diet to maximize performance, most pros had a golf mentality drilled into their head since they were young kids. It's not as much about what he did, but the insanely unconventional way he did it. Even in his contemporary, players like Nicklaus and Palmer could probably do this as well. He may have had a more robotic consistency, but they had more power, a greater variety of shots, and likely a better short game, not to mention great consistency themselves, if a slightly larger variation. His accomplishments are most highlighted by his unique methods.
i saw Moe years ago in Oshawa, he would not hit in front of the stands, he took his towel and wet it in a puddle , asked us to form a horseshoe around him and proceeded to hit a giant bucket of balls. He could call out the direction and distance of each shot. A wonder to see.
Average Tour player hits a 70-yard shot from the fairway to about 16 feet. I think he found his groove and that helped him hit the shots close. But, he is hitting most of those shots inside 8-feet and more like inside 4-feet. From a 70-yard shot perspective..and given his age...this was an awesome display. I just think people have these fallacies about Tour players and how close they hit the ball to the cup from this distance.
The incline at the back does not mean its an easy shot. You have to use it correctly. What you think you can just line drive the ball a hundred miles an hour and the incline will put it by the pin. Moe is the guy that the pros stop and watch when hes on the range>> yes he was that good. That was certainly not the most difficult shot I can think of but the way he did it at that pace and at that age was simply amazing. Jack Nicklaus can not duplicate that performance at the same age and pace!
Moe was a good golfer. I think alot of this stuff is just hype to sell something or for teachers to garner interest in people to keep their schools alive. I'm going to put it simply Moe was an original and did alot of stuff his own way. His style is his own and even he admitted that it shouldn't be taught to others. I seen him say that in context on another video. The main problem with his hitting style is distance. That type of swing lacks distance and it would be tough for most to compete on a decent size course. Someone like Bryson who his very athletic can squeeze a decent amount of distance but if Bryson hit the ball with more of a Hogan swing he would add 20 yards minimum on his drives. Moe seemed like a real fun guy and God rest his soul. There are better ways for the majority to hit a golf ball in my opinion.
Philip, it always amazes me that people think golf is such a complicated game,take any person with average atheletic ability and teach them Moe s swing, they will be enjoying the game, thus the thousands of so called pro teacher's would be looking for a new scam..
He's a legend. He's what, 60 or more here? If someone, a caddie or a mentor or whatever, had of really helped Moe Norman integrate into the PGA (and if the golfing establishment hadnt been so callous), imagine how many Majors this guy could have won?
From what I have read about Moe Norman, he was a bit of an odd duck and the PGA didn't really want him to be successful and be represented on the tour. He didn't like to fly and travel and hence he had relatively few tournament appearances. He probably suffered from a mild form of autism if what I have read is true. I believe that Titleist gave him a lifetime contract that paid him enough to be comfortable even though he wasn't playing on the tour. That swing is amazing and so consistent, thanks for sharing the video.
Unfortunately the guy with the camera has no idea what he's doing. Just keep the camera on the green.So we can see the shots land with the hole in view.
The difference between Moe and most. He was doing what he was doing in this video all the time.....swinging the club. Not sitting watching someone hit a ball over and over again. Practice. Get better. It's that simple
I actually heard he had trouble on uneven lies….he probably didn’t have many being down the middle all the time, but he was always at the range set up and smashing it like a robot
Yes,I agree, maybe the thing to do here is just enjoy and dont compare. Although a little homework might prove good reading. Even Tiger was amazed watching Moe hit balls ,even through Moe was in his early 60s
Tiger knows he don't "own" his swing like Moe did and he, along with 99% on Tour don't really know or own their swings the ways Moe owned his! Fairways and greens hit stats show/say it all! None on tour today, I'd be willing to bet, even come close today as what Moe's records would show his stats were!
***** I think he's making fun of the fact the the green is sloped so severely towards the hole that the shots he hit past are rolling backwards when they would go >10 feet past on a flat green. So he's calling it sleeper spin, when in reality they chose this hole because the slope bring the ball back to the hole
Moe once owned 39 course records in Canada....on one exhibition at a driving range....2 posts 40 yards apart at 240 yards he hit driver 1500 times for SEVEN hours and NOT ONE. drive finished outside of either post! truly a golf savant.
this should be shown as an educational video about pace of play to all golfers
I counted 30 balls on the green. I would estimate 20 were within maybe 7 to 8 feet. Most of those within 5 feet. A couple maybe 10 feet. The others maybe 20 to 25 feet or so. Pretty good for an old man hitting from 70 yards away. All 30 shots on the green.
If a pro was 20 yards or so from the pin that would be pretty good. I doubt many pros could do that from 70 yards. Maybe. Some of the very best. His consistency is amazing. His ball striking second to none.
Yeah but bat shit crazy
@@eddiestevens3220 One thing is for sure, Moe Norman wasn't bat shit crazy. When is the last time Titlest or any other Corporation gave you $5,000 per month for life? Or paid you $2,500 a month for representing Natural Golf or any other organization. You wish you were bat shit crazy like Moe Norman.
Titleist gave him that money as the way they saw it it was good publicity to do a sympathy sponsorship with him .
Any way would you invite that crazy fucker round for dinner in your home .. don't think so 😄😄
unbelievable!!! But the video doesn't lie
One thing not being talked abut is that Moe was left handed playing righty. Dominant side should pull the club, like in Frisbee.
There are so many people doing that, myself included, and I doubt it changes anything other than maybe trade some power for accuracy
I am right handed, and I started playing golf what they call left handed. I had a problem with body rotation and slicing the ball. So I switched to right handed position. Dominant hand does not like to be in a position below not dominant hand. Took me months to get used to having left hand dominate right hand.
Phil Mickelson is right handed.
GrampaSaysNo mike
malaska
Ok....then?
What kept him from winning majors?
discgolfinrude his brain
If only I had touch like this.....
i saw Moe demonstrate his skills three different times, and was totally in awe. Someone from the audience asked Moe to hook or slice and bring the ball back to the fairway. Moe said "why would I do that, when I can hit straight down the middle of the fairway to begin with".
tremendous ball striking. 17 hole in one's, 9 double eagles and he shot 59 three times once when he was in his sixties. unbelievable
And a ridiculous number if course record too!
Plus 50 wins in canada
Albatross, not double eagle
In one of his 59 rounds he 3 putted on one hole and had a bogey on another hole. "Should have been a 57" - Moe Norman 😊
Moe was the "Goodwill Hunting" version of playing golf.
One of the most impressive things I’ve ever seen. Most Moe Norman videos don’t show the result of his swings, but this is truly incredible. Is he not the greatest ball striker of all time? Thank you for this gem.
Can we take a second to appreciate that he was knocking almost every ball past the pin just to give it a chance of going in 👏🙌
I still remember the day we shot this, Brand new club and no retakes, your correct,it was amazing.
must have been astounding to witness in person. Love that you guys left the comments in...."I wish he'd slow down a little".....nah, he was just gonna do his thing and you guys did a great job adapting to his pace. Nice work!
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What was Mo's average score on a par 72 at this stage of his life?
Although the easy pin location and backstop seemed to exaggerate Moe's accuracy....The man is a savant. He read what his eyes saw. He saw the backstop so he kept hitting it to the same distance and used the backstop. Why change the distance when the ball ends up 3 feet from the hole?
apart from being brilliant at golf,hes a lovely man ,seems very happy and polite.all the great players say hes the best striker ,what more can anyone else say .RIP Moe
kev ward I played Rockway a lot as a teen and he was always ready to help out or give tips to the Juniors. One of the greatest "what if's" in sports without question. Always will be in my eyes.
Excellent commentary! 💫💫💫👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
I know a guy who knew Moe. He said when he was a kid, he and other kids would stand out on the driving range with a baseball glove. Moe would tell them to hold the glove in the air and not move.
Moe would then hit ball after ball into the glove on the fly.
Said it was the most amazing thing he’s EVER seen done with a golf club.
I did a rough count
34 balls hit
34 on the green
25 within 8 feet (76%)
19 within 5 feet (56%)
The ball flight he takes is also much harder then hitting a conventional wedge shot, he is hitting it much lower. It's purely based on feel.
interesting breakdown....thanks for posting
To be fair, a lot of balls rolled back (backstop), enhancing the percentage ....still mindblowing
There is a backstop that artificially makes the balls finish close to the hole
@@yogamon
Pppppffff...
You could have the same results?
I doubt most pros could have the same results after 34 shots.
Not just distance control, most never left the stick!
You can't deny how good this man was...
"Backstop" or not, you can't match this consistency
@@yogamonyes but if you watch all the balls even the ones that got help from behind wouldn’t have went to far past the hole and there wasn’t that many overall. This was impressive but your point is well taken.
I get a bit emotional every time I see this man doing his thing...
He was a good guy. I have a lot of footage I havent done anything with yet.
glad you enjoyed.
Mark.
Please share that footage
Release the footage and let us all enjoy it please Mark !
First time ive seen moe hitting to a green. Absolutely fantastic. He was the best. I wish i could of seen him live.
Great video. Thanks. I wonder if there are any more unseen videos of moe. I had seen everyone except this one.
It was incredible. Thanks again.
I am trying his swing now.
Moe Norman is amazing in this video. I can't believe how easily he swings, how quickly he swings and how out of this world his accuracy is.
I just can't believe it some people tried so hard to discredit his talent. If he wasn't strike the ball perfect it would more likely roll over the green. You saw that even these balls has very low trajectory it still came down soft and let the nature sloped to take care of.
Ok: So I have been playing for about 50 years. Just yesterday, I gave this a real try, the one plane idea. I stretched my arms and tried to get myself in a similar position to Moe's at address. I worked at it for about an hour on the range and then shot even par 36 on our front nine with missing 5 putts inside of 10 feet. Seriously never hit the ball so straight. I was so impressed I continued and hit another 200 balls at the range.
At 64 years young, the game is beginning again.
How are you doing at 70?
Congrats you are now very close to the Creator.
@@robertlaporte2998 Cruel man.
Bet you’re a scratch golfer now!
How is the game??
I don't think you get to tell Mo to "slow down."
Moe only played in 1 senior event , he finished 3rd. He wouldn't fly therefore he could have only played a shortened schedule. He was amazing, as I tell people , it is not how straight he hit it, it's how he never hit it crooked.
The pga wanted to suppress Moe because he didn't need a coach and they can't make money unless they constantly tell you that golf is hard and you will suck unless you get lessons. Moe had tremendous dedication and a positive attitude and that's all you really need to accomplish anything.
L.Musho Why are you making up lies? I guess you haven’t heard of Bubba Watson? Look up who is Bubba’s coach.
It’s so sad how the PGA bullied him away because he didn’t fit their mold.
I'm pretty sure most of us couldn't do this from 7 yards away.........forget 70
Thanks. 43 course records, 3 scores in the 50s. Good player for anytime. Like a great billards player Moe never needed to hit the shots Tiger did or does.
@Bobbie Bobbejaan You need to know his story to know why that was.
that's also exactly why Tiger said what he says about Moe being scary for knowing every day when he got up he was going to hit great shots, every time! Tiger knows he can't do that! Though I know he could, if he would get on the Moe Norman, single plane train he could easily break Nicklaus' records!
Nonesense. Moe has a classic swing in the mold of a Hogan that only differs at setup due to beliefs Moe had. He does the same kind of things Trevino and Hogan did in their heydays. I don't know why everyone gets so caught up in the goofy setup because it is NOT what makes him good. But that isn't as good of a story I suppose, and it can't be monetized by nobody's like Todd Graves.
I've watched this video of Moe hitting wedge's so many times and I’m always so amazed.
I tried to track each shot and the result based om distance to the hole, which is quite hard if you have watched the video.
Here is what I came up with.
33 shots hit.
1@ 40ft
1@ 30ft
3@ 20ft
5@ 15ft
5@ 10ft
18 shots were less than 10 feet from the pin.
Correct me if I am wrong!
Moe was awesome!
You may think this is easy because it is the same shot over and over.. but this is extremely difficult to hit this shot consistently in birdie range.
Totally agree. I played 50 + rounds with Moe, he was the real thing, Brandel Chambly just rnentioned his name about an hour ago. It was a different game then, more want for accuracy..
lucky man
and what about the group behind him? watch or skip the hole sayin thats a legend just practicing.
Count Yogi like Moe had many records as well. Said to drive 400+ yards in 40s with older style clubs. Purest swing ever.
Hey Blain , appreciate your opinion, I was there,he never hit that Cobra wedge before those shots. There was a slope he used it beautifully, it was very impressive.
Cheers
Mark
Dr Jones
Look at the shot hit at 3:22. It is rolling forward then slows and rolls backwards 5 feet! Look again st 4:45, the green must be incredibly sloped back to front. If he lands then anywhere within 25 feet of the hole, the heavily sloped green automatically brings it to within 10 feet. Most tour pros can hit a land a ball within 25 feet from 70ish yards, calling him the best ballstrikier of all time is hilarious.
Sean H you have no idea.. he could do with with his driver aswell. Keep your uneducated opinions to yourself. Only ben hogan ever rivalled this man in ballstriking. No question, pros would stop there practice to watch this man hit balls.
Yea you're right he was soooo good his 0 PGATOUR wins and 0 made cuts at majors prove he was the best!! Hahahaha not my fault you're too unitelligent to realize being a range rat and good on mini-tours is still far below that of most PGATOUR pros
Sean Heintzeman all those pga tour players thay say he was the best you mean.
Sean Heintzeman i dont think many "range rats" shoot 59 three times either. Dumbass
I watched moe make a 90' putt in a playoff hole to beat Graham Gunn in a local tounament in l. Lindsav ont. The guy is a golf legend
yes he was considered one of the best golfer of all time. Moe Norman was an absolute legend, best ever.
Moe ,said the same thing, he would tell me he could control how much it went forwards better than he could backwards.
Such ball control is like nothing I have ever seen Love you Moe! You have inspired millions to play by feel and to know how to get there.Amazing!
How was he not the best ever. What happened. Tiger or Jack couldn't do this. Like WTF. RIP you legend.
I couldn't putt that quickly from 40 feet and get a pattern around the hole like that.
I would have 90% in the drink and the other 10 God knows where.
Mark: I have known of Moe all my life. Followed him actually at the 1966 Open at Shaughnessy. I have a very close friend who played with him on the Canadian Tour many years ago. Hoping the weather warms a little today as can't wait to get out there again.
I had the opportunity to watch Moe Norman on several occasions hit golf balls at Royal Oaks GC in Titusville FL where he spent many winters. On one occasion hit approximately 50 balls with a 7 iron to a flag on the range. This flag was 145 yards from where he was hitting from that day into a slight breeze. Moe hit 95% of those balls within a 10 - 15 foot radius of the flag. Many were within 5 - 7 feet. Now for you naysayers I tried the same 50 balls and as a 4.1 index at the time I can tell you that from my own personal experience I achieved less than 25% within the same 10 -15 foot range. Moe was a genius although at the time he really didn't understand that he was. Moe was different with an odd golf swing that didn't fit into the mainstream theories about how one should swing a golf club. There are many ways to swing a golf club. Look at the swings of Trevino, Sneed, Hogan, Player, Palmer, Watson, Woods and Jack. Watch their videos and tell me that they are all the same. Nope you can't do it. They are all different as is Moe Norman. So just sit back and enjoy the video of one of the greatest ball strikers of all time.
Saw him in Titusville too & that range has signs showing yardages but Moe would hit shots at those signs calling how many bounces before the shot went under the sign & nearly every time he was right. So impressive!
Great footage. Now excuse me, I'm gonna be sick.
Forgive me in advance, but anyone using the "yeah, but he had a slope" excuse is conspiracy theorist as well as a total Debbie Downer. The guy is not a 24 year old golf Adonis, he's an old man here (RIP)! And he just happens to be the best ball striker in history, a golfing legend. My son was taught by a pro who was Moe's protege in Canada. Although my son incorporated more modern movements, he will always go through the ball like Moe. If you see any negativity in these shots, just try to duplicate them. Geez, get your club pro to try and even come close.
ive read and heard is was tour politics. I think he had a type of social disorder like asberger's and he didnt really fit in to the tour and what they wanted so they kinda screwed him over.
He was described as being able to hit a driver down the middle of the fairway and then hit a second driver that ended up right next to his first drive. Guy was freakin a golf genius.
Bobbie Bobbejaan not true
Pretty impressive I've been playing for a long time and I never heard of Moe Norman just ran across him on you tube.
I seen lot post here talking out of there butt's.With the clubs and golf ball's they had back then and being in his age
not many people could do this shot I promise you he could make that shot with out a back stop. Just watch some of his videos
and look at how many balls this man hits I bet most of you cant hit a med size bucket! The blisters on his hands tells me he loved this game more then any other man I have seen that my friends is DEDICATION!
Great way to swing a club,but no it does not work every time,it depends on who teaches it and who the golfer is.
Cheers
David Coley All that matters is what happens at impact. He stays on shaft plane during entry and exit, which many tour players try to achieve but is difficult to do at high club speeds. Hance why Moe could never make it on the main tour and stuck to the minis
Not that impressive with the backstop behind the hole.
I have been studying Moe for 12-yrs and just noticed that he said in Kirk Junge's video, at a private Natural Instructors clinic in Florida during 2000, that he got his swing from Manuel de la Torre's father, Angel, Manuel and Edward Jones.
Correction: on the second name, it was Ernest Jones not Edward Jones. Ernest was from the UK and lost his right leg, below the knee during a battle, in 1915, as a soldier. He spent four months in the hospital, then went to the golf course on crutches and shot 83. He was totally amazed at his own accomplishment !!! (Note that Moe wasn't born until 1929). A short while after, Ernest was playing par 72 golf, once again. He was a good player, a golf club maker and then a teacher. He says everyone's swing will be slightly different but to a) "swing the clubhead", b) "hit the ball past the head" and the brain will figure out the body / muscle mechanics to hit the ball, similar to how we all use a hammer to hit a nail. Just like Sir Walter Thompson thought, in 1887, Ernest said, "...we don't need to know how every component in our body or muscles work to use them efficiently." As I understand his method, It is a 'club / tool based' concept rather than a 'body, bone / muscle based' concept. Absolutely fascinating to me....I have a lot more to learn, now....
donjvalley "club / tool based concept" I think is spot on. I think the human body/mind is built for using tools. Humans take to tools like fish to water IMHO.
I really wish that he would have gotten the recognition that he deserved while he was alive.😔
I have copied MOE in my own way. I looked at Moe's swing and tried to come as close as I could. I am playing the best golf of my life. Some would say it is not the same. The results are working better than the million instruction teachers on YOU TUBE. I don't finish way up in the air like MOE. One of best things I have don't is hit at least 3 buckets of balls every day. Remember Hogan saying get in the dirt or something close to it! That made me improve as much as anything. I am winning avg 4 scats a round with my group.
yep Hogan said the secret is in the dirt, meaning you have to hit a lot of balls! Just like Moe always said, "a great golf swing can never be bought or stolen, you have to earn it!"
He let the sticks do his talking here. And they were SCREAMING!!
I'd fancy most tour pro's to be able to duplicate this from that distance, with that amount of green and with the slope bleeding balls back to the cup. However, it's an impressive display, especially at the age Moe was when he did it.
Not a chance in hell. Just ask them.
@@1960taylor ian poultry could. As long as he's wearing his visor
Joeybago12 I thought he was Rod Stewart for the longest time.
In this vid Moe doesn t seem to have the straight plane look on his lead side. His address seems 2 have a slight V in it which indicates a deviation from the swing plane. (Hands closer 2 the body as in conventional setup. ????????
Just brilliant! Nothing more to say
That’s the most incredible pitching of a golf ball that u will ever see!
Fair enough, I don't doubt his ability, its documented enough. Sometimes the mystery and legend of golf stories can get people carried away with the realism of it. Lots of people compare this guy to modern pros, I just think that's hard to do, such a different game now.
bryson dechambeau is as close to Moe on PGA Tour as it gets!
One of the most amazing things I've ever seen in my life Moe Norman is a legend this guy was a machine BEST BALL STRIKER OF ALL TIME
I love all the negative comments about green slope,no wind and other statements to take away from this proformance. Line up your best players and do this....I didn't think so
Are you saying Mickelson, Stricker and other great short game players of the ball couldn't do this with that slope behind the hole. Get a grip ffs
In 1956 alone, Moe Norman set NINE course records, shot 61 in tournament play FOUR TIMES, and won 17 of 26 tournaments, shooting a combined score of -52 (52 under par).
Moe Norman’s career includes playing in The Masters twice, winning back to back Canadian Amateur Championships, won 56 tournaments, shot 59 THREE TIMES, made 17 HOLES IN ONE, holds a total of 33 COURSE RECORDS, and is called THE BEST BALL STRIKER EVER by the likes of Tiger Woods, Ben Hogan, Sam Snead, Lee Trevino, etc., etc., etc.
He played the Masters twice?
I can sum it up like this...Moe hit a golf ball as effortlessly as you and i breath !!
So many great golfers in this TH-cam comment section, assuming everyone talking about the slope in the back of the green can also hit that many balls as close as Moe did. What Moe displayed here was impressive, leave it at that.
The current leader as of this comment on the PGA tour from 100-125 yards is on average 15', 8" from the hole. Also consider the ball he was hitting here vrs what they play today. Huge difference.
This is pretty impressive for his age and I love Moe . But a few years ago at the Australian open I watched , Scott , McIllroy ,Speith and a bunch of other pros in the practice area and they would have done this easy . I was amazed at how great the pros actually are . Not to take any thing away from Moe but the pros today with their modern swings are just as good if not better because they are more athletic But id like to see them do this well in their 60s like Moe . For me Moe is the King !!
johnathan wetherill Modern players are awesome. But clubs & balls get bet better & better. And instruction is more available and they keep learning. They learn from each other. Knowledge increases (Daniel 12:4 😉) . One good bet you can make about his detractors, no two: they are young, and they are uninformed.
Better equipment, more standardized training, modern knowledge on knowledge and diet to maximize performance, most pros had a golf mentality drilled into their head since they were young kids. It's not as much about what he did, but the insanely unconventional way he did it. Even in his contemporary, players like Nicklaus and Palmer could probably do this as well. He may have had a more robotic consistency, but they had more power, a greater variety of shots, and likely a better short game, not to mention great consistency themselves, if a slightly larger variation. His accomplishments are most highlighted by his unique methods.
RIP, Moe. A beautiful soul.
He’s so rapid fire and consistent the camera man can’t keep up with him, lmao
i saw Moe years ago in Oshawa, he would not hit in front of the stands, he took his towel and wet it in a puddle , asked us to form a horseshoe around him and proceeded to hit a giant bucket of balls. He could call out the direction and distance of each shot. A wonder to see.
Average Tour player hits a 70-yard shot from the fairway to about 16 feet. I think he found his groove and that helped him hit the shots close. But, he is hitting most of those shots inside 8-feet and more like inside 4-feet. From a 70-yard shot perspective..and given his age...this was an awesome display. I just think people have these fallacies about Tour players and how close they hit the ball to the cup from this distance.
Rip you F(^(&*&ing LEGEND
The incline at the back does not mean its an easy shot. You have to use it correctly. What you think you can just line drive the ball a hundred miles an hour and the incline will put it by the pin. Moe is the guy that the pros stop and watch when hes on the range>> yes he was that good. That was certainly not the most difficult shot I can think of but the way he did it at that pace and at that age was simply amazing. Jack Nicklaus can not duplicate that performance at the same age and pace!
He never won a major...so consider him good, but not even close to one of the greats
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It's pretty good I'd say the slope on the back of the green definitely stopped a few of those running of the back tho impressive none the less
Moe was a good golfer. I think alot of this stuff is just hype to sell something or for teachers to garner interest in people to keep their schools alive. I'm going to put it simply Moe was an original and did alot of stuff his own way. His style is his own and even he admitted that it shouldn't be taught to others. I seen him say that in context on another video. The main problem with his hitting style is distance. That type of swing lacks distance and it would be tough for most to compete on a decent size course. Someone like Bryson who his very athletic can squeeze a decent amount of distance but if Bryson hit the ball with more of a Hogan swing he would add 20 yards minimum on his drives. Moe seemed like a real fun guy and God rest his soul. There are better ways for the majority to hit a golf ball in my opinion.
Philip, it always amazes me that people think golf is such a complicated game,take any person with average atheletic ability and teach them Moe s swing, they will be enjoying the game, thus the thousands of so called pro teacher's would be looking for a new scam..
Thanks for preserving and sharing this Mark. I have some stuff I digitized from 1997 with Moe at the range...priceless mechanical perfection!!!
As a keen golfer, this consistency is absolutely amazing.
He's a legend. He's what, 60 or more here? If someone, a caddie or a mentor or whatever, had of really helped Moe Norman integrate into the PGA (and if the golfing establishment hadnt been so callous), imagine how many Majors this guy could have won?
From what I have read about Moe Norman, he was a bit of an odd duck and the PGA didn't really want him to be successful and be represented on the tour. He didn't like to fly and travel and hence he had relatively few tournament appearances. He probably suffered from a mild form of autism if what I have read is true. I believe that Titleist gave him a lifetime contract that paid him enough to be comfortable even though he wasn't playing on the tour. That swing is amazing and so consistent, thanks for sharing the video.
And He did his way! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼🌷
the correct way
Unfortunately the guy with the camera has no idea what he's doing. Just keep the camera on the green.So we can see the shots land with the hole in view.
I guess that’s the feeling of greatness
I absolutely love this. Even his "bad" shots are good. They may have needed to dress this green after the demo, lol.
The fact the video has to say 'completely unedited footage' makes me think it has been edited
The difference between Moe and most. He was doing what he was doing in this video all the time.....swinging the club. Not sitting watching someone hit a ball over and over again. Practice. Get better. It's that simple
The average golfer would be well served to study Moe Norman. The standard swing is too difficult for most people!
How did he play in windy conditions? I'm guessing just as straight. His stance would be well anchored.
I could watch & listen to videos of Moe all day everyday.. #genius
Half of the players on the pga tour would have a similar result. This is an easy shot for a professional.
I actually heard he had trouble on uneven lies….he probably didn’t have many being down the middle all the time, but he was always at the range set up and smashing it like a robot
Yes,I agree, maybe the thing to do here is just enjoy and dont compare. Although a little homework might prove good reading. Even Tiger was amazed watching Moe hit balls ,even through Moe was in his early 60s
Tiger knows he don't "own" his swing like Moe did and he, along with 99% on Tour don't really know or own their swings the ways Moe owned his! Fairways and greens hit stats show/say it all! None on tour today, I'd be willing to bet, even come close today as what Moe's records would show his stats were!
Absolute clinic….imagine what moe could of done with a prov1
He always told me ,he could control how much the ball moves forwards but not backwards. He also never used a Sandwedge from the fairway.
fkin incredible
A man who does the thing he loves is blessed ,no matter what people say about him.
First thing I noticed, was past the target, that does not happen with regular players, a lesson!!!
I hope he repaired all those pitch-marks!
steverbratt haha
the man NEVER TOOK A DIVOT ! EVER !
Pitchmarks, not divots!! 🤣
see the way he has one wedge with low low bounce and all you dopes have 3 wedges with all different bounces and cant even master one of them.
the sleeper spinback check is what blows me away.
what's sleeper backspin mean?
***** I think he's making fun of the fact the the green is sloped so severely towards the hole that the shots he hit past are rolling backwards when they would go >10 feet past on a flat green. So he's calling it sleeper spin, when in reality they chose this hole because the slope bring the ball back to the hole
He was on the autistic spectrum. This was one of his great gifts that came from it.
moe wasn't autistic, he had head injuries when he was a child that were believed to cause his mannerisms.
My favourite golfer of all time! This is typical Moe!
he has convienced a hell of alot more people than himself that he is the greatest ball striker