Moe was THE man! Watched him hit balls on the range and it was astounding. He could hit draws or fades within 3 yards of each …non stop. Probably the best ball striker ever!
@@hartleypokrant8531 how many majors does moe have? Exactly! How many wins does moe have? Exactly! Check the facts before you type! 🤣 let’s say a 23 handicap gets 4 aces does that mean he’s better than a 4 handicaper? 🤣
Edit: Great content as usual Steve. I remember a couple of years ago, I commented on one of your videos that I thought I could "take you" and you replied "take me where? I didn't bring a sweater and you're low on gas". lol. I've only recently discovered Moe Norman. At first I was doubtful to say the least. Well, a few months back I was telling some of my golfing buds about him and one of them said that his dad actually saw Moe hit balls at a course practice facility in Florida years ago. He remembered his dad coming home that evening in total awe of a man that could hit every shot, with every single club in his bag dead straight every single time.
watched him once in Ontario, Canada hit balls for an hour. It was unbelievable. My son was taught from a young age by a student of Moe. He was a great golfer (teacher) and my son is a great golfer as well. The theory behind the swing of Moe is accuracy. He could fill a bucket of balls from 100 yards.
"Pipeline" Mo once played with Sam Snead who questioned Mo's intended use of a driver on a lay up shot before a river. Mo told him he was going over the bridge and not laying up, which, to Snead's amazement, he did!😃😃
Moe the one plane swing.... Note that he braced his lead knee as well. The shaft was in line with the tail elbow to upper at of the back close to the shoulder. Trail arm was Sunnyside up pointing to the sky. Never address the club at the ball, always a few inches before the ball and hover the club.... Hardly took a divot and the list may go on and on..... I love single plane swing that helped me lower my handicap and find the fairway all the time.
Nice to see free tips about Moe's swing. Unfortunately, some people have made a lot of money trying to peddle his swing to the masses. Moe's swing worked for Moe. There is a reason no one else plays it. For me, nothing hurts my back more than completely stretching out my arms at address. IMO Moe was not trying to produce a single plane swing. He simply was trying to reduce variables. If your arms are fully extended then they are in the exact same place every swing. I think it was as simple as that. Although I have maintained my arm position at address, I have taken on a few of Moe's principles as I have gotten older. Shortened my back swing for example and staying flat footed (or feet on the ground) through impact. Like I said it reduces variables. A long swing makes it harder to square the club and staying flat footed eliminates "rocking". Bottom line is this: You want to play well, you have to move the dirt. A golf swing cannot be bought.
Thanks for sharing this drill Steve. I am going to make sure that I give Mo Norman drill a try when I go to the range tomorrow Lord willing. My miss when I get tired is coming up out of the swing. But I can see that if I practice this drill it will force me to stay down through the swing.
It may not be everyone's cup of tea but I have recently changed my grip to a ten finger grip just like Moe and the difference it has made is amazing, all my shots are now straight, before I chanced my golf balls were all over the place, now all I need to do is work on my distance. Thank you Moe and thank you Steve.
Thanks, I'm working on footwork work since I fractured my right big toe from ground force from speed training with a Justin Thomas looking trail foot action. I've always had that motion but trying to roll the ankle more.
The Moe right foot position was the last position in his single plane swing. It was the result of the other five positions, beginning with the set up. If that makes you a pure ball striker with a conventional swing go for it. I was taught it was a part of the process in the single plane swing, which by the way I still find a bit difficult, even though I am a single planer.
I have been doing that for years, but have been working on trying to do the opposite by ending up on right toe on the follow through and it ruined my swing, going back to Moe's right foot method thank you
Well you could do it like I show in the video, by putting the ball 6 inches behind your back foot...or you could learn to pivot and turn, putting your speed more out in front, and locating the low point perfectly. :)
@Inmotion70 Here's a drill to discover the secret, but Shhh - don't tell anyone 😉 1. After cocking your wrist on the backswing, don't uncock it on the downswing all the way past impact! 2. Did the weight of the club _still_ cause the clubhead to hit the turf? Hint - gravity + centrifugal force. Hmm... 3. Next try keeping the wrist cocked until you club gets 12 inches past the ball - I'll bet the divot wasn't nearly that far ahead,. Hmm... 4. Continues delaying breaking the cocked wrist until you've mastered the divot hitting turf at the point of the ball. Doesn't it feel great to no longer "cast" and "swing from the top?" Turns out you will all improve your tempo and accuracy with your new swing feeling silky smooth. But remember, this is our secret and we only chilli dip on Taco Tuesday's at the Clubhouse, okay?
Kenny Perry, Patrick reed had that flat footed look through impact too. I think myself and most golfers would be much better going it that way as opposed to jumping off our right side a la tiger or even nicklaus/Norman who really drive the legs. Nick Price and Faldo were taught that way as youngsters and went on to win a bunch when they calmed down their lower bodies. that story about Nick price winning a bunch after spending a month or two playing and hitting every ball closed stances to calm his leg action comes to mind. I saw Price in 1995 in his prime and he hit it flush every time. Great tip Steve and very informative. Never really looked at Moe’s swing.
@@Inmotion70 mine too. Knee issues too. And overall body. Phil is way calmer on his leg drive and his swing and body aged way better. Ernie too. He just can’t putt anymore apparently
What's your take on a posted left leg i.e. no knee bend at impact vs a little bend. Its hard to keep your rump back by posting to a dead straight left leg. That chair behind the butt is helping my power, however, I am still occasionally hitting a big fatty because of years of posting onto a dead straight left leg at impact. Also, having an athletic slight bend on the left leg at impact is helping my repetitive right hip/back stiffness injury I have had since I got seriously into golf 20 years ago! I think I just need to grip down a little to compensate for years of being locked in the left leg at impact i.e. too tall
My issues: scooping the ball at impact and flipping at it, impacting it on my trail side, rather leading side. Cont: early extending because of my hands scooping so hard that my body makes compensations and stands up, to avoid hitting it fat. Also, this is probably the best I’ve seen your swing look! I used to copy moe norman Ala Todd Graves teaching and I would go through 3 large buckets with 0 % pain ANYWHERE in my body it was almost to the point where it was funny from how little to no pain there was by doing that feet planted by impact and rolling the feet.
This is all about accuracy. Chasing the ball down the line. Keeping the clubface as square as possible for as long as possible. Facing the ball at impact with your chest. I can go o and on. This is not going to make the average weekend warrior a better ball striker. It will only frustrate him/her and have them give up on the concept. That's why no one has ever played on tour using his method, other than Moe. Doug Sanders was as close as I've seen anyone doing it on tour and he did it before Moe developed his style of swing. There is only one magic to pure ball striking and it's called maintaining the flying wedges into impact. How you get there is irrelevant. Both feet flat on the ground ( Moe Norman , Doug Sanders, Tony Finau) or up on your toes ( Justin Thomas) or both feet off the ground ( Many long drive champions )or the rear foot sliding 6 inches away from the target line ( Greg Norman, Scottie Sheffler) or hitting a ball on your knees or sitting on a chair. I can go on and on. Just make sure you maintain those flying wedges into impact!!!!!!!!!!! Hint folks: Don't roll your hands clockwise on the takeaway. Keep the face looking at the ball. Study players that have a flat or bowed wrist at the top of the backswing (Dustin Johnson, Lee Trevino, Jon Rahm). Those are guys who set their flying wedges at the takeaway and maintain them into impact. There are rare exceptions to this rule. Hitting the driver is one. An early release of the wedges results in an ascending blow, which helps to keep the spin rate down for more distance. That's why many poor players can hit the snot out of a driver but can't hit an iron off the turf with good compression on the ball.
Moe played in the PGA for a short time his style didn't match the PGA vision of golf and for whatever reason he left and is seldom recognized as one of the best. I believe his stats on hitting the fairway are outstanding. Then again the modern pro relies on resue shots to gain distance on their drives.
BTW, your not doing Moe drill just a mix of modern day drills and little bit of Moe at the end. You right foot should be almost straight (in Moe's version) just before you hit the ball, but you are bending it same way as left foot. Moe signature posture is slightly bend left foot while keeping right foot straight, and then he drags (a bit) right foot, and lifts the outside of it showing the sole of the shoe. Your drill is at best very weird, nothing like Moe's lol
i tell myself "low right hip"----cleaned up a lot of low point issues----its all "feels " people whatever you gotta tell yourself to be better..... no more early extension with this low right hip "thought "
This looks like an ankle injury waiting to happen if overdone. Moe was a fluke in ball striking & using only 1 piece of his puzzle likely won't fix anything. There's never been another like him & likely never will be.
Sorry Steve, but that was nothing near Moe's swing! for one - Moe never rolled his hands over in his follow through! He had limits in his back swing and follow-through! I also notice that you hold the top of your club grip at it's highest thickness of the grip! Maybe you need club fitting (longer shafts)
Moe was THE man! Watched him hit balls on the range and it was astounding. He could hit draws or fades within 3 yards of each …non stop. Probably the best ball striker ever!
Nope. Ben hogen is. He has more wins and has a nicer swing.
@@hartleypokrant8531 but he’s not on the tour. So he’s 2nd behind Ben hogan and he never missed a green……. He was a robot.
@@hartleypokrant8531 yes but ben hogan was a better ball striker. Those guys missed more greens than ben hogan… your reason is stupid.
@@hartleypokrant8531 how many majors did moe win compared to Ben hogan? Exactly.
@@hartleypokrant8531 how many majors does moe have? Exactly! How many wins does moe have? Exactly! Check the facts before you type! 🤣 let’s say a 23 handicap gets 4 aces does that mean he’s better than a 4 handicaper? 🤣
Edit: Great content as usual Steve. I remember a couple of years ago, I commented on one of your videos that I thought I could "take you" and you replied "take me where? I didn't bring a sweater and you're low on gas". lol. I've only recently discovered Moe Norman. At first I was doubtful to say the least. Well, a few months back I was telling some of my golfing buds about him and one of them said that his dad actually saw Moe hit balls at a course practice facility in Florida years ago. He remembered his dad coming home that evening in total awe of a man that could hit every shot, with every single club in his bag dead straight every single time.
watched him once in Ontario, Canada hit balls for an hour. It was unbelievable. My son was taught from a young age by a student of Moe. He was a great golfer (teacher) and my son is a great golfer as well. The theory behind the swing of Moe is accuracy. He could fill a bucket of balls from 100 yards.
In his videos Moe said "I play into my knees" : exactly what you are showing. Great drill! Thank you Steve! Other players call it "squatting".
I too had the pleasure of watching Moe at a local course. He made it look SO easy to hit whatever you asked.
THANKS STEVE, IT REALLY WORKS WELL ....
"Pipeline" Mo once played with Sam Snead who questioned Mo's intended use of a driver on a lay up shot before a river. Mo told him he was going over the bridge and not laying up, which, to Snead's amazement, he did!😃😃
Then after Moe did it, Sam said "I will never try to club you again"!
That story was awesome. Actually Snead asked him if he’d could do it again and Moe said once was enough meaning he got lucky with a good bounce!
Moe the one plane swing.... Note that he braced his lead knee as well. The shaft was in line with the tail elbow to upper at of the back close to the shoulder. Trail arm was Sunnyside up pointing to the sky. Never address the club at the ball, always a few inches before the ball and hover the club.... Hardly took a divot and the list may go on and on..... I love single plane swing that helped me lower my handicap and find the fairway all the time.
Nice to see free tips about Moe's swing. Unfortunately, some people have made a lot of money trying to peddle his swing to the masses. Moe's swing worked for Moe. There is a reason no one else plays it. For me, nothing hurts my back more than completely stretching out my arms at address. IMO Moe was not trying to produce a single plane swing. He simply was trying to reduce variables. If your arms are fully extended then they are in the exact same place every swing. I think it was as simple as that. Although I have maintained my arm position at address, I have taken on a few of Moe's principles as I have gotten older. Shortened my back swing for example and staying flat footed (or feet on the ground) through impact. Like I said it reduces variables. A long swing makes it harder to square the club and staying flat footed eliminates "rocking". Bottom line is this: You want to play well, you have to move the dirt. A golf swing cannot be bought.
Wonderful tips
Thanks for sharing this drill Steve. I am going to make sure that I give Mo Norman drill a try when I go to the range tomorrow Lord willing. My miss when I get tired is coming up out of the swing. But I can see that if I practice this drill it will force me to stay down through the swing.
It may not be everyone's cup of tea but I have recently changed my grip to a ten finger grip just like Moe and the difference it has made is amazing, all my shots are now straight, before I chanced my golf balls were all over the place, now all I need to do is work on my distance. Thank you Moe and thank you Steve.
Il love this Steve !
moe drill is now in the bag .. thanks steve
Did you went to the doctor after doing this drill? Its a great way to sprain your leg
Thanks, I'm working on footwork work since I fractured my right big toe from ground force from speed training with a Justin Thomas looking trail foot action. I've always had that motion but trying to roll the ankle more.
The Moe right foot position was the last position in his single plane swing. It was the result of the other five positions, beginning with the set up. If that makes you a pure ball striker with a conventional swing go for it. I was taught it was a part of the process in the single plane swing, which by the way I still find a bit difficult, even though I am a single planer.
I have single length clubs how does this work with them
Very good advice
Thank you TY TY TY 😅 Never hit it better, even fairway wood and driver. A personal best 9 holes today hitting more greens on or near reg.
Very good,, but are your lead arm and club in single plane position?
No I don't subscribe to that theory.
@@Inmotion70 Please explain why not. Thanks.
I have been doing that for years, but have been working on trying to do the opposite by ending up on right toe on the follow through and it ruined my swing, going back to Moe's right foot method thank you
I think it also allows the right elbow to easily get past the right hip, solving standing the hands up at impact.
This does work
Steve, I had a couple hour session on the range doing the Moe drill with the trail foot and and hips and low back are very sore. It's that typical?
Yes you're using new muscles. I wouldn't expect it to last. But don't forget that's a drill...I advocate lifting the heel at impact.
What would you do to stop striking the ground before you strike the ball?
Well you could do it like I show in the video, by putting the ball 6 inches behind your back foot...or you could learn to pivot and turn, putting your speed more out in front, and locating the low point perfectly. :)
@Inmotion70 Here's a drill to discover the secret, but Shhh - don't tell anyone 😉
1. After cocking your wrist on the backswing, don't uncock it on the downswing all the way past impact!
2. Did the weight of the club _still_ cause the clubhead to hit the turf? Hint - gravity + centrifugal force. Hmm...
3. Next try keeping the wrist cocked until you club gets 12 inches past the ball - I'll bet the divot wasn't nearly that far ahead,. Hmm...
4. Continues delaying breaking the cocked wrist until you've mastered the divot hitting turf at the point of the ball.
Doesn't it feel great to no longer "cast" and "swing from the top?" Turns out you will all improve your tempo and accuracy with your new swing feeling silky smooth. But remember, this is our secret and we only chilli dip on Taco Tuesday's at the Clubhouse, okay?
Noticed your left left moves a bit right before down swig, is that a trigger for you?
Yes.
There is no one learning the Moe Norman method that swings like Moe.
Nor teaching.
Kenny Perry, Patrick reed had that flat footed look through impact too. I think myself and most golfers would be much better going it that way as opposed to jumping off our right side a la tiger or even nicklaus/Norman who really drive the legs. Nick Price and Faldo were taught that way as youngsters and went on to win a bunch when they calmed down their lower bodies. that story about Nick price winning a bunch after spending a month or two playing and hitting every ball closed stances to calm his leg action comes to mind. I saw Price in 1995 in his prime and he hit it flush every time. Great tip Steve and very informative. Never really looked at Moe’s swing.
I think Tiger's right foot action contributed to the lower spine issues. JMO
@@Inmotion70 mine too. Knee issues too. And overall body. Phil is way calmer on his leg drive and his swing and body aged way better. Ernie too. He just can’t putt anymore apparently
What's your take on a posted left leg i.e. no knee bend at impact vs a little bend. Its hard to keep your rump back by posting to a dead straight left leg. That chair behind the butt is helping my power, however, I am still occasionally hitting a big fatty because of years of posting onto a dead straight left leg at impact. Also, having an athletic slight bend on the left leg at impact is helping my repetitive right hip/back stiffness injury I have had since I got seriously into golf 20 years ago! I think I just need to grip down a little to compensate for years of being locked in the left leg at impact i.e. too tall
I think the left leg is rapidly extending at impact but doesn't reach full extension until 30 inches after the ball.
2:50 "I roll it to the end like Moe"
It's a shame we don't have footage of Moe playing even just one complete hole, most footage is him doing demos or on the driving range.
Where is this driving range?
Moorpark CA.
Great tip to stay low !
If your going to use this trail foot just go find the GGA and follow the full swing. The trail foot is a product of the rest of the swing.
It's a drill.
Good tip… I tend to over rotate which pushes my shot to the right
My issues: scooping the ball at impact and flipping at it, impacting it on my trail side, rather leading side.
Cont: early extending because of my hands scooping so hard that my body makes compensations and stands up, to avoid hitting it fat.
Also, this is probably the best I’ve seen your swing look! I used to copy moe norman Ala Todd Graves teaching and I would go through 3 large buckets with 0 % pain ANYWHERE in my body it was almost to the point where it was funny from how little to no pain there was by doing that feet planted by impact and rolling the feet.
he does lift the heel off the ground at the finnish
When I miss with my driver. It’s always left. Long straight and way left or I snap hook it way left.
Check grip. Path could be too inside to out. Hands could be turning the toe over too much.
@2:20 Moe's heel is way off the ground and he's up on his toes.
But where is he at impact? Look at the thumbnail.
This is all about accuracy. Chasing the ball down the line. Keeping the clubface as square as possible for as long as possible. Facing the ball at impact with your chest. I can go o and on. This is not going to make the average weekend warrior a better ball striker. It will only frustrate him/her and have them give up on the concept. That's why no one has ever played on tour using his method, other than Moe. Doug Sanders was as close as I've seen anyone doing it on tour and he did it before Moe developed his style of swing.
There is only one magic to pure ball striking and it's called maintaining the flying wedges into impact. How you get there is irrelevant. Both feet flat on the ground ( Moe Norman , Doug Sanders, Tony Finau) or up on your toes ( Justin Thomas) or both feet off the ground ( Many long drive champions )or the rear foot sliding 6 inches away from the target line ( Greg Norman, Scottie Sheffler) or hitting a ball on your knees or sitting on a chair. I can go on and on. Just make sure you maintain those flying wedges into impact!!!!!!!!!!!
Hint folks: Don't roll your hands clockwise on the takeaway. Keep the face looking at the ball. Study players that have a flat or bowed wrist at the top of the backswing (Dustin Johnson, Lee Trevino, Jon Rahm). Those are guys who set their flying wedges at the takeaway and maintain them into impact.
There are rare exceptions to this rule. Hitting the driver is one. An early release of the wedges results in an ascending blow, which helps to keep the spin rate down for more distance. That's why many poor players can hit the snot out of a driver but can't hit an iron off the turf with good compression on the ball.
Tiger Woods called Moe the greatest ballstriker that ever lived
PHOTOGRAPH at 2:17 ...Moe high up in his right toe!!!
Not at impact.
I have been playing golf since 1969 and I have never seen anyone jut their knee out perpendicular to their swing path.
A huge percentage of golfers, including those stuck on the mini tours, push their knees out too perpendicular. Maybe not 90 degrees, but 60 for sure.
Your right heel is still on the ground at impact. Same as Moe.
Moe played in the PGA for a short time his style didn't match the PGA vision of golf and for whatever reason he left and is seldom recognized as one of the best. I believe his stats on hitting the fairway are outstanding. Then again the modern pro relies on resue shots to gain distance on their drives.
He also hated slow play and would lay down on the course
???? When was the last time you saw someone lift their knee like that in a golf swing? ⛳️ Lost me right there.🤣
BTW, your not doing Moe drill just a mix of modern day drills and little bit of Moe at the end. You right foot should be almost straight (in Moe's version) just before you hit the ball, but you are bending it same way as left foot. Moe signature posture is slightly bend left foot while keeping right foot straight, and then he drags (a bit) right foot, and lifts the outside of it showing the sole of the shoe. Your drill is at best very weird, nothing like Moe's lol
Uhhh I never said it was. LOLOLOL I simply call this the 'Moe Drill'. I give all my drills names.
@@Inmotion70 ah on that case my bad. You are correct then
i tell myself "low right hip"----cleaned up a lot of low point issues----its all "feels " people whatever you gotta tell yourself to be better..... no more early extension with this low right hip "thought "
Now was a Dentist 🦷 too ‘
This looks like an ankle injury waiting to happen if overdone. Moe was a fluke in ball striking & using only 1 piece of his puzzle likely won't fix anything. There's never been another like him & likely never will be.
I agree with you. And in the video I specifically say that it's an exercise to be done softly.
@@Inmotion70 Got it! Thanks for the reply.
Now this move is completely against Mike Austin's swing theory..
Which boat are you in?
This is a DRILL for those not moving their hips, knees, and ankles efficiently.
@@Inmotion70 Well said Steve, plus hitting straighter and more accurate shots is certainly worth the price of admission!
Great way to hurt your foot.
Your address point is on 2 planes. Nice drill with the foot but you need to be on a single plane at address.
Good lord. I'm not trying or telling people to copy Moe. This is a DRILL for more solid footwork to address a common issue.
Sorry Steve, but that was nothing near Moe's swing! for one - Moe never rolled his hands over in his follow through! He had limits in his back swing and follow-through! I also notice that you hold the top of your club grip at it's highest thickness of the grip! Maybe you need club fitting (longer shafts)
What is wrong with you Moe people? LOL Did you watch with the sound off? NOBODY IS TRYING TO COPYING MOE NORMAN IN THIS VIDEO. IT'S A DRILL.