I'm currently an EA, and am looking forward to getting a ring when I am raised to MM. In the meantime, as a watch/pocket watch buff and restorer, I've been putting together a really nice Masonic pocket watch, also to be reserved until MM
The guidance that was given to me and my cabletow brothers is wait a lil while before wearing the S&C; wait until you're able to explain the meaning of the S&C or "defend" it in the realm of PHA.
I must respectfully disagree. No FM (PHA or other) let alone an EA is under any obligation to publicly "defend" Freemasonry or any symbolic item representing membership to the Fraternity. If a newly initiated EA was asked any question about FM or it's symbolism they weren't confident discussing they should be encouraged to say that they are new to the Brotherhood, still learning and, if the person questioning them is truly interested, that they will endeavor to seek the answer to their question and get back to them. There is already an item that serves to distinguish the degrees - The lamp skin apron in it's various designs relevant to each degree. In public they aren't generally worn these days and being seen to be a Mason is about being simply a Mason not which degree you are in my opinion. If anyone asks you can tell them. I'd also state if a EA isn't aware of the basic meaning behind the S&C then their Lodge/mentor(s) are not doing what they should be immediately post initiation with regards to (at the earliest opportunity) having freedom of movement to informally walk around and discuss the Lodge, items within it etc. This can be done prior to the formal presentation of the First Degree Tracing Board or post. EAs/FCs are Freemasons and should be able to wear pins and rings just as a Master Mason would. Look to places like Australia where EAs are presented FM lapel pins and rings upon being initiated and all Masons from EA to MM can wear the same (often Lodge specific) ring (or another design that may be gifted from a Mason friend or relative or even self purchased). The fraternity should be more inclusive from the get go and do away with any kind of elitist or class attitudes to include such nonsense as "you can't wear a pin or ring until you are a "real" Mason. It is contra to being on the level and equal as Brothers and also contradicts the conclusion of the First Degree initiation where the candidate is informed he is now a Freemason.
My lodge gives you a S&C pin on your initiation and encourages you to wear it as you see fit. While there are variations to how the emblem is displayed it’s also the emblem of the fraternity.
Same goes in TN. There is a specific part of the EA that makes and lets you know that you are a Mason. As far as wearing symbols, I was told not to worry about them at that time. I was instructed to study the craft and wait until receiving my third degree to even worry about that. I was told that I should be able to explain what it means before wearing it. Another great video Brother, keep it up.
Hey brother Jared, the night that I was initiated as an EA, I was given the lapel pin for the Grand Lodge of Minnesota. It does have the MM square and Compass symbol on it, but I was told I could wear it.
Hi Bro, Salutes from Brazil. A very interesting theme, here in Brazil we use the terminology mason for all three degree, like Aprentice mason, fellow mason and master mason.
In the Jurisdiction of the UGL of NSW and ACT, membership in the lodge begins in the EA degree. We sign the by-laws in that degree as well as pay our dues starting therefrom. EAs are also entitled to a masonic funeral. At out initiation, the District Grand Inspector of Workings (equivalent to a DDGM) gives you a lapel pin to wear whenever you please. The pin is the S&C in the MM configuration.
Adding to that; it takes at least a year before you complete your degrees in this jurisdiction. It's not uncommon to see a brother completing his degrees for a span of five years.
Well I can say that I do agree with you when I was at the end of my EA one of my family members bought me a hat with the square and compass and of course I wore it on several occasions not only because I was proud of finally doing my gift back for EA but also I am proud to say that I am a mason. So for now I will keep that hat tucked in the closet until the right time or as you said every degree has its working tools/emblems. So I think it would be more appropriate for me to wear something that represents my degree I am currently in. Good point.
Same thing kinda happened. To me ! I left my hat in a movie theater accidentally!! I wish remembered what movie I saw. Snow blower or it wasn't John wick 3 maybe elita the battle angle. Anyways. I left it there. And for some reason. I just never went and got it. I felt the hat found a new home maybe the owner if the movie theater was a Mason. I am petitioning. Have my signatures. Don't feel bad. I wore my mason hat everywhere. And we Mason's asked me about it. I just said my grandpa was a Mason. My great grandma was like tge leader at eastern star. I come from a Masonic family. And go to dinners. But just haven't joined yet personal reasons. I will rise to 33d degree and be a Shriner and Scottish rite.
Great video brother Jared. I’m approaching my FC soon and this came in quite handy although I wish I would have seen this video prior to EA 1º initiation. I am enjoying it thus far and have fully memorized my OB and moving upward to the 2º. In my jurisdiction and lodge, you can wear the EA S&C however one doesn’t stay in that degree long for the most part so as you mentioned, it may be beneficial to wait. I do have a EA S&C teeshirt but thats all I wanted to invest in until after being raised. I also want to say that in part, it is because of you that I got the inspiration to finally apply to become a Freemason, and guess what, I am loving it. Thank you brother Jared.
Well, here in Germany from the moment after you initiation, you´re allowed to give your opinion to anything, you are allowed to vote, to discuss the Agenda and you can definitely wear a pin or anything else. Two days after my initiation, i received a pin as a gift from a MM in the Lodge. Here in Germany takes at least 2 years to be raised if you are an active member.
I’ve seen an EA pin before. However, I believe as an EA, you’re in a learning process and should be not put yourself in a situation where you may end up getting examined by a Brother you do not know or even one that you shouldn’t be sending or receiving light from.
Here in Ontario, Canada, Victoria District.. pretty well resonates with what you have had to say and your jurisdiction in Mississippi. I don't know if it is illigal or not but it is frowned upon by the order, to be a Cowan basically. As for myself, these past 3 months between my first step up to the local lodge, their summertime shut down, being invited to their annual BBQ last week (they hold this during their first meeting, and simple hamburgers were actually really amazing lol) my application was read that night, I have an interview coming this Thursday. :) Truely I can only thank you and many others for the work you do. Thank you! You have helped me lots with your videos
I am really enjoying your videos. I am from the UK (England to be exact) and I am going to be initiated in October. As far as I can gather, things are done a bit differently but your videos are very informative all the same. I notice you stopped uploading videos a year ago. Will you be returning at some point?
@@mynameisinigomontoya8179 It has really been an amazing journey! I was initiated on the 7th of October 2021 and am now a Master Mason and a Royal Arch Mason. I am quite active and do a lot of visiting. I love it! I hope you get to visit someday soon.
@@ukchristian28 that's amazing, congratulations! Im going for my own EA in two weeks, and plan to go up both the Scottish and York rites once I'm a master. I'm actually already planning a presentation of sorts for my own lodge (Atlas Pythagoras number 10, New Jersey, USA) based on the relationship of master masons and their masonic rings,.and the history of masonic rings. In England, do you chaps also wear rings? It's awesome to talk to someone from across the pond about this, wish I could do so more privately and message you elsewhere, fascinated with how things are done there! Anyway, I deeply appreciate you responding and I hope you continue your very fruitful journey in Masonry. Soon I'll be able to call you brother 😉. Be well my friend!
In England I don't think we have different EA FC AND MM square and compass we tell the difference in the aprons that they were. But once you are a EA in your lodge you have all the rights to vote, propose and second as any other member of the lodge. But we do pay full subs from your first day
I'm sure this is a question for the worshipful master of my lodge. But, my grandfather, a past 32nd degree master mason, has bequeathed to me a master mason ring. I'm not wearing it, but very soon I will be initiated into Freemasonry (the interviews have all went well). It has been willed that I keep it once I am initiated into Freemasonry. So, do I just keep it in a safe place until later? My grandfather was a great man, and it would comfort me to wear his ring.
What is a Mason Yes, I will keep it in a safe place until I become a master mason. I do cherish it and am glad my grandfather chose me of all people to give it to. Thank you for answering.
You can buy FC rings, never seen any EA apparel, but I don’t see the point if you are more than likely going to be raised in a year, on that same token we did have one fella come in for his EA and after that got a full S&C back piece done(tattoo)... we never saw him again.. that could make for some interesting conversation when he takes his shirt off at the beach and gets questioned by a real MM...
If you have gone through your first ceremony and accepted as an Apprentice..then you are a Free Mason but ONLY as an Apprentice until your knowledge has been proven and you allowed to seek the level of Fellowcraft/Journeyman.
Here in the province of Hampshire & Isle of Wight in England, all new entered apprentices are given a label button of a Forget me Knot flower. This remembers the brethren who lost their lives in Nazi Germany. I do not know if other provinces in England do this.
I recently was raised to a Master Mason and at no point did anyone inform of any restrictions regarding symbols. I didn’t have any rings or tee shirts at the time so I guess it wouldn’t have been an issue. I will say this, Freemasonry is losing members every year due to the current social culture in America. I think as an organization we need to discuss how to appeal to this generation and share this wonderful craft.
I think we have certain organizational and administrative needs that can be served better by "updating" how things are done - but as for cultural appeal - I'm not so sure. For me, Freemasonry is great because it stands by its roots, not that it bends in the wind to new trends.
From my experience someone will counsel the new brother, informing them that while it is okay to accept gifts of pins, etc. or to purchase the same, they cannot publicly wear or display them until after their Raising. Somewhat related, another thing that some lodges do either immediately after a new brother's Initiation or Passing, or upon their request, is issue them an Entered Apprentice card or Fellowcraft card, respectively. The card permits them to sit in other lodges within Oklahoma (when open on EA or FC of course) unaccompanied by a Master Mason from their lodge. The primary purpose is to allow them to observe the degree that they just went through at their earliest convenience.
We would want an EA or FC to be accompanied to another lodge if they were going to observe a degree appropriate to their level. This is both to be able to answer any questions they may have and to make the necessary introductions and to vouch for their status. We do not issue any document indicating they have been entered or passed. And even if we did, a dues card is not sufficient to be admitted to a Lodge if no one there knows you to be a Mason, you have to be examined as well and we have no examination for an EA and/or FC.
Ryan Frederick it is very helpful, I'm beginning my memory work now after getting initiated, and in OK, they make you memorize the whole thing! Owasso lodge #545 E.A.
In North Carolina it’s told that you don’t display the symbol until your raising. We don’t do he cards where I’m from but your coach takes you to degree work of the appropriate level if possible. I found when going through it helped me memorize when I saw it unfold in front of me. It’s hard to get a feel for what’s going on while you’re going through the degree. If you know what I mean then you know. haha. Gaston Lodge #263
I had no idea. I actually bought a neckles of the master mason sign and had no idea I had to be one in order to represent. I hope I didn't offend any brothers, because I want to become a freemason and I live in Ohio. your video are every helpful insight. I now understand what I must do in order to achieve my dream. thank you Jared.
I doubt you offended anybody. I am glad the videos are of some help! Please don't take offence, because I do not, but feel free to call me Jared, mum always did :-)
What is a Mason that's a relief to know. Had no idea I misspelled your name, my apology. I corrected the error. these videos are great. I love the navy tie by the way. the one in your other videos with the hidden compass and square in the tie.
4:10 well did you study independently? Can you accomplish what you say can? Do you not increase harm done when you practice? Then what is the point of the institution in the first place - beyond something your ego can show the world in which you believe you’re above it.
I so appreciate this talk! I raised the very same in my lodge. And cautiously pointed out the differences in symbols per its degree and was told it would be best if it weren’t worn at all until one was Raised. 🤷🏽♂️ I get it 😏 I have to wait a few more weeks until I am Raised👍🏽🤣🙏🏽Ty again for this. I’m in Cali.
my WM told me that in my state we have to wait till we reach MM before we can wear the symbol. kind of like an all-in-one. i found a ring i like and gave it to him to give to me when i'm raised.
Greetings! I'm a FC, soon to be MM, from Masonic Lodge Ignacio Zaragoza#3 AF&AM in Tijuana, Mexico. I really appreciate your work brother. In my lodge if an EA/FC really wants to wear jewelry it must be within the symbology of his degree but is customary, like most lodges, for MM to only wear the SC.
I'm a fellowcraft now. I'm getting my third in November. I purchased a shirt that has the American flag and mason square and compass on it. I'm not wearing it in public until I get my third degree. I just wear it at home for now. But I'm excited. Just 3 more weeks and I can wear my shirt to town and slap this nice decal on the back of my jeep. Haha
@L P idk what they did to you at your initiation, but no, my skin did not turn grey. The only health issue I ever had was knee pain. That's only because I broke my femur last November. So no. This is very odd.
@L P This is worrying for me. Because there should be nothing involved making you "turn grey" unless you're outside the US I suppose. But yes, I prefer the company of woman. Can I ask how any of this pertains to research ?
In my EA initiation (last night) I was awarded a MM lapel pin with an accompanying letter from grand lodge saying "I hope you will be proud to wear this in your community". After my ceremony DC said "now I don't recommend you wear this to Lodge, as we all know you are a Mason, wear it in public instead." To which I replied; "does this mean I can wear my ring now?". "Brother, you are now a Mason, be proud and represent wherever you like." This was very surprising to me as I've seen sooo many USA Brothers complaining about EAs and FCs wearing a lapel pin or ring....
my local GL recognises you as a mason upon EA obligation, and then afterwards the WM or GL representative will give you a pin that (you say represents a MM) but here represents all masonry. So to use your analogy, its not a doctoral certificate, the S&C are the equivalent of a first aid certificate.
I am sorry if I was not clear. For us, the arrangement of the S&C changes with each degree. Most apparel and accessories are designed with the S&C in what we would call the MM arrangement. Yes, as an EA we also consider you a Mason - period - but because the arrangement of our S&C changes through degrees, we advise them against wearing it until they receive the 3rd degree.
In my jurisdiction from the day you are initiated you are able to wear the S&C and this was demonstrated to me by being given two lapel pins which I was encouraged to wear them whenever I feel comfortable.I personally am waiting until I am raised to wear a ring however.
Same here. I was given a Lapel pin the night of my initiation in the form of a MM S&C & another Identical one at a lodge I visited, was presented to me by my Deputy GM, & he encouraged me to wear it where ever or whenever I can. He wanted for me to let people know Freemasonry is still about, & expressed concern for dwindling numbers over the last few decades, hence all the approved Facebook pages etc. I am an EA, & will be a FC in a couple of weeks time.
So here in the UK while the positions of the compass illustrate the part of the journey the brother has reached, as far as I'm aware we use that symbol to represent the brotherhood when it's on books, clothing, stickers etc. So just as answered in part one of this video, a brother is a brother and displaying the square and compasses just shows his membership.
Great Explanation.... What I love most about this video is that it explains in full on how to properly defend and use the logo. For myself I already knew the way if ever i was asked, but moreover i'm extremely glad you made this vid because I can recall having a debate with a brother about this and he is a MM however he didn't think I should be wearing my EA ring even though I could defend my degree when tested. He is from a different country though, In the Caribbean to be exact and they do things a bit differently but what was most funny to me was that he is a MM and didnt recognize that the ring was for an EA and he had it in his hand... had me confused a bit lol. I initially didnt adhere to his request simply because im also a Master Oddfellow and I can honestly say that i comprehend fraternal works and the importance of mastering and being able to defend each level. Im the youngest in both my lodge and I want the elders to see the same enthusiasm they had when they came into the craft.
I could be mistaken, but I do not think that every jurisdiction adjusts the S&Q from EA to MM - it is always in the "MM Style", so to speak. Instead their differentiation is always made by a different apron - not just how the apron is worn, but a completely different apron.
I think your right . We have a museum in london with all different kinds of aprons from regular lodge ones to rare ones going all the way back to the point of being marked undated. Its very interesting to know how far the craft has came.
Aaron Carter “... and didn’t recognize the ring was for an EA” Maybe, maybe not. Some jurisdictions reserve wearing the S&C until after the MM and as result the usual emblem is shown. Others jurisdictions permit wearing the S&C with other than MM arrangement, however, the brother is still required to have advanced to MM. I met some brothers in Thessaloniki who explained this after we noticed the differences between our rings. So it’s more to it in some places other than just wearing an EA piece of jewelry, you may be required to defend it. 🤷🏽♂️
This is huge. There was a guy i saw with a Masonic tattoo on his neck. And honestly he seemed mental. I am in the process of becoming a Mason. Petitioning. I have my signatures. Anyways. I have not done my EA. Still though I don't think this guy was a Mason. Who knows. I attend a Israeli dance class at Masonic Lodge but that's not the lodge I am petitioning at. Different one the folk dance group just rents out the dinning room. It us so much FUN! And i like entering in Masonic buildings it does something. Don't want to sound cheesey. But Freeing. I feel free. Like all this fear goes away. Really bizarre. Sort of like Church. But I get confidence as well as a freeing experience. I just learned the different symbols for EA FC and MM. That's rad. Really good video. I never new you couldn't represent that symbol if not a Mason. I have seen Masonic rings in pawn stores. I always thought that was inappropriate. One thing that bothers me is everyone thinks Mason's are rich. I feel like everyone in my lodge is in the military or is maybe well off. Doesn't matter. I will join hopefully!! I have a good chance grandpa was a Mason. And I have a 33 degree that likes me. And signed for me fits my back. Yeeee! Cool video Jared. Good stuff. 🤗😎👍💪🕴️🌻🖤💙🌠
Lmao this reminds me of when I was a recruit in the Marines at bootcamp. We’re best friends till I walk in - after I’m there, *”YOURE A WORM!”* I suppose that just means you’re a bird
I’m a FC I have a whole ring now and before I became an EA I had a bracelet with our symbol on it and when I became an official EA I started to wear the bracelet, my master craftsman told me I’m technically not allowed to wear anything like that until I’m a master mason. So when I went to take it off he chuckled and said it was okay lol as long as you’re a mason and you’re becoming a master mason within the year you joined it shouldn’t really matter. Getting the symbol TATTED? Before you’re a master mason? That’s a bit too far.
It depends on the master. Generally no light until you're raised. But I have seen bros (EA FC) wear the point within a circle and parallel lines or the forget me not.
I am a new applicant and have been watching videos like this , its been very helpful ... But even if it were OK for a Apprentice to wear the symbol , I wouldn't feel worthy to do so until I got my 3rd degree .. But to knowingly misrepresent ones self would be very Un-Mason like , would it not ?
When I was entered and apprentice I wanted to display the Square and Compasses so badly. Now, whenever I see or hear EAs or Fellowcrafts mention this, I remind them that even the collegiate graduate has to wait to turn the tassel until the end of the ceremony. In due time. All in due time.
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In the thumbnail for the video it is the uppermost one, the one at the top. The square and compasses without the G is common in lodges outside of the USA. The "G" is largely, but not entirely, a USA "thing".
@@WhatisaMason I'm a little confused, but I was told I was not allowed to display any type of S&C at all. I had made a pic for my profile with a faint one visible in a layer but after watching this video, I took it down. But upon being Raised an EA, I was told no S&C at all in any fashion was allowed. Yet, you have here one that is for an EA with the Square covering the Compass legs. I'll have to ask my WM
If an EA is excited and makes hand signs like a MM. And really did not know any better. They were just excited. But a MM took it the wrong way. Are MMs going to screw him over?
How would the EA know any MM hand signs, as you call them, unless he went looking for that which was not yet his to have? Perhaps I am misunderstanding?
I like to think of it along the lines of stolen valor. If you haven't earned it then you shouldn't wear it. I had to wait my time and go through my degrees to brandish the s&c's.
No, I really cannot, since PHA is clandestine here I have not had that experience. Perhaps in the future I can interview someone who can elaborate for us.
Clandestine is a derogative term used that I disagree with. It's no secret Mississippi has a long history of racial divide and I think that is part of the reason PHA struggles there. What can your lodges do to reverse that viewpoint.
when I originally joined, I asked about the symbol and wasn't told about an EA symbol.aside from the pillar , handshake and other lesson based symbols, but nothing I could wear I was told t wait for third degree
What is a Mason it was in Pensacola Florida, if you have access to their standards maybe you could find out, I'm now in Michigan , and will be encountering new standards .
What is a Mason Thank you and likewise I like brothers like you that are willing to teach the essentials like this and apologies for the delayed response as here in South Florida we just got through hurricane irma nonetheless I look forward to more of your future videos
What is a Mason Yes sir everyone is well here in South Florida for the most part we are doing our part to ensure that everyone is safe along with clean up around neighborhoods, thanks for taking time to double check it's much appreciated as always
While the PM emblem usually includes a sun in the center, some jurisdictions do use variations. You should check for where you are. As for my shirt, I just bought a shirt, took it to and embroidery shop, and had it done.
Well, yes. There are, of course, still Operative Masons - folks who are actually in the trade and business of building with stone/brick. Freemasons are the Speculative Masons who might never lay a single stone, but learn moral lessons using the tools/instruments of Masonry. However, it is quite common to shorthand Freemason to just Mason, as seen in the MS State Code, and several areas within Freemasonry itself.
Hello sir, I just want to ask this simple question about the first 2 degrees. If I may ask are Entered Apprentice Degree and Fellow Craft Degree are they already allowed to wear a masonic ring? Hope to hear your feedback sir.
In Mississippi they would not be permitted to wear the S&C in the MM fashion. If they really wanted to spend their money on a ring for their appropriate degree, they may, but most are MM's within a year, so the extra expense isn't really worth it.
What is a Mason I understand you can't wear a MM's symbol if you haven't reach that degree. thank you so much sir I hope to learn more about your videos it shows and teach me a lot.
Michael Baker i think that's owing to the fact that they have not signed the bylaws, but it's important to make note they are perfecting their work under the auspices of the lodge.
What is a Mason I'd like to hear more about that also, I think When My Grandfather was a Mason back in his day, it was said that it was frowned upon!! Your input would be appreciated!!
According to the Mark Master degree, HE IS NOT a Mason!!! Damn, jurisdiction, according to the mark master degree across the board, HE IS NOT a Freemason. ☝🏾🇲🇦🕌
Good point Jared. I can go super deep in a response. But I don't have to right now. Going to sleep big day in taking action tomorrow living life!! Yeeeee haaaa. There's some salvation right there.
EAs are FMs and should be paying dues, voting and be fully entitled to wear rings, pins and anything else. To do otherwise is contra to all being on the level. It would be like saying if you joined the Marines you couldn't display the USMC emblem until you were a SNCO for example. Silly and in my mind immature and elitist.
In a craft guild, like the stone masons, do you think every newly entered apprentice should be permitted to design the next castle that was to be built? Should everyone be permitted to chisel the stone? Or, are there some basic tasks one must learn first, and then be advanced through their learning? If someone spent 10 years working and learning and eventually is set apart by his brethren by an election, should that officer be able to be identified with that office, or should he look like every other apprentice at the job site? Being "on the level" is a concept about how we treat each other. Sure, someone may be the newest apprentice, but that doesn't mean I should treat him unkindly. I should listen to his opinion, but he has not yet proven himself to be skilled enough in the craft to vote on how the work should be accomplished. Your SNCO example is a great one. That new Pvt doesn't get to come into the Marines and slap on a SgtMaj rank. Same applies here. The square and compasses aren't just the logo of freemasonry, if you will. Instead they represent the rank achieved by the man wearing them. And, as I stated in the video, you can find EA and FC jewelry, if you really want, but if you put any effort at all in your advancement, you'll earn the MM degree long before that Marine can become a SgtMaj, so, perhaps, most would rather just wait and spend their money once, rather than buying the jewelry for each rank along the way.
@@WhatisaMason designing a castle requires skill, knowledge and experience the apprentice does not have. Wearing an accoutrement representing being a member of a group requires no experience only that the person wearing it is a member of the organization. The issue here is that in certain places the S&C is seen to denote rank vs simple belonging as it does in other places. Freemasonry has degrees not ranks they are very different things. In the military rank denotes superiority both legally and in authority in Freemasonry jewels and certain items of dress etc denote the FM has stewardship (temporary) of a role or position or has achieved certain milestones in their past but, even though they may have/had additional tasks/responsibility, are in no way superior or above their fellow Brothers. Knowledge/Skill + Experience = Wisdom is seen as something to unite through sharing vs a source of power or authority over others. I see the S&C (if we use the military analogy) as the USMC emblem which all Marine's wear for example not as a rank. Other Mason's clearly see it as rank. With regard to voting the EA or FC is only present in Lodges opened to the degree they have reached so they only vote on matters relating to their degree. Should a matter require consideration from more experienced Masons then it should simply be reserved for Lodges opened in the 3rd Degree. I have mentioned before that in places like Australia EAs pay dues, vote and at their initiation as EAs are presented a S&C lapel pin from the Grand Lodge. They are also often presented a signature tie or ring representing their specific lodge resplendent with S&C! In short "Down Under" the S&C is seen as the symbol of all Freemason's and not a badge of rank reserved for MM. I believe that is the way to go and it certainly works. If anyone can see how that could be negative in any sense I'd be interested to know why. Not only is this a massive deal to those new EAs it makes them feel from the outset they are truly Masons (which they undoubtedly are despite their lack of experience). It in no way detracts from the accomplishment of being passed to the second or becoming a MM. It also serves to help with spreading the word about FM with all the EAs and FCs able to display the iconic symbolism which often sparks discussion about The Craft from those that otherwise would never have known they were FMs. Finally people talk of the S&C as a symbol earned as MM after having "paid your dues' and through experience attaining MM. The fact some places hand out MM in a day makes that point of view redundant. In one place a person can attain MM and wear the S&C in hours while a FC who may have been a Mason for a year cannot? I would argue the EA or FC who has been so for months has a broader understanding of Freemasonry than the one day MM. Yes they are not yet privvy to certain elements handed out to the MM in mere hours relevant to each degree but they would have likley spent countless more hours in those months reading about and discussing Freemasonry, the Liberal Arts and Sciences, spirituality, preparing for their next examination etc and would run rings around the newly minted one day MM. This may shock non Masons but you can attain MM by simply ticking boxes, doing some memory work and attending a set number of Lodges also without spending a single moment outside of that studying or applying the tenets of Freemasonry. You can also do it in a day with dozens or even hundreds of others in some places and have zero depth of knowledge ro even a sound base understanding fo FM then get theoretically around chastising a FC with 6 months or more as a FM for having a S&C bumper magnet??? What I am getting at is I also know EAs and FCs that dedicate more time to learning and applying FM than some MMs ever will. It is also not uncommon to see a EA or FC discussing a matter pertaining to FM that a MM present clearly has zero clue about.... In short (after that long reply) I maintain my belief, supported by the fact in many places it is common practice and works to the benefit of junior FMs in their sense of belonging and the Brotherhood in having more exposure to the general public, that the S&C is the symbol of all FMs and not a badge of rank to be reserved for MM and as such should be worn proudly by all FMs regardless of Degree or experience. I also question how one becomes a "Master" without attending Lodge? Using the castle analogy that would be like the head planner/builder being in charge who had been given such title in a day and had never set foot in a castle before! If that were the case I rather the apprentice with 6 months of study and practical skills to have the job :-)
Brother, I appreciate your position and how well you defended it. Since anybody of any age, gender, intent, etc., can get what ever masonic pin they want online (why stop at the S&C, why not get a 33rd cross, or a Rosicrucian pin), the whole concern I have is, admittedly, moot. Further, all the jurisdictional differences certainly complicate matters. As you say, if I wear a S&C pin to AUS, I'll be be presumed to a mason, period. However, if someone from AUS visits a lodge in my area and wears a S&C, but says he is an EA, the brethren would raise an eyebrow - mostly in ignorance because they don't know the jurisdictional differences. This is why, of course, we rely on the modes of recognition and not jewelry. Practice properly, I would argue that a MM ought to have skill, knowledge and experience that the EA does not, just as with your castle builder. However, I accept your argument that that simply is not how the craft is practiced today. And that, to me and many others, is a large part of the equation that calculates what is "wrong" with Freemasonry today. MM's and EA's should work together and be "on the level" with one another, but the EA ought to be assured that the MM is in fact more informed than he and the MM ought to be always operating in a mentoring capacity - but that pipe dream just isn't what most of us experience. Instead we get EA's who think they know everything, or want to know everything day 1 (and some jurisdictions do, as you say, accommodate that desire by providing the title and degree of MM in a day), just as much as we have MM's who are utterly incapable of being mentors. This disparity is, in my eye, part of the reason Freemasonry is constricting, not expanding. Not that expansion is the goal - but when folks join and find out that even the MM's have no clue what they are talking about... why go back? As such, we need to be asking applicants, point blank, if they truly feel they can improve upon themselves or not. Granted, they may simply give the expected "yes" answer, but if the mentor is doing their job properly they can gently whisper wise council into that Brother's ear and remind them that before they came a Mason they knew there was some personal growth to work on. This is useful should the brother start to waiver and express that he, somehow, 'knows better' than an officer in the lodge. Sure, he might (say he's a certified accountant and the treasurer does nothing financial for his employment). But there's still some passion to subdue there, and that's what the mentor is for. Anyhow, I wish we could have this conversation in person, I would enjoy hearing more of your thoughts.
@@WhatisaMason Yes there are certainly cultural differences within Freemasonry. The key is of course (as we all well know) to respect whatever is the norm in the area we live and, just as with visiting other countries/cultures, to also be aware of any differences when we visit or interact interstate or abroad. While there are far more similarities than differences it is the differences that make visiting or even just bumping into Masons from other states, countries and cultures all the more interesting! With regard to earlier interaction and involvement of EAs/FCs prior to becoming MMs I believe it can only serve to them more rounded MMs (so long as they apply themselves). Others disagree with that methodology and are 100% within their right to do so. As with all endeavors we get out what we put in and in my experience the vast majority of FMs certainly put a lot of time, effort and study into The Craft. Love the channel and open honest discussions. If anyone out there thinks there is benefit to the exclusion of EAs/FCs from Lodge etc I'd certainly be keen to get their points of view and rationale.....
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I got my EA last Monday. Very happy I went through with it. Honored and humble to be apart of something greater than me.
Congratulations!
I'm currently an EA, and am looking forward to getting a ring when I am raised to MM. In the meantime, as a watch/pocket watch buff and restorer, I've been putting together a really nice Masonic pocket watch, also to be reserved until MM
Wow - that is excellent! What a unique skill to have!
The guidance that was given to me and my cabletow brothers is wait a lil while before wearing the S&C; wait until you're able to explain the meaning of the S&C or "defend" it in the realm of PHA.
That is good council.
I must respectfully disagree. No FM (PHA or other) let alone an EA is under any obligation to publicly "defend" Freemasonry or any symbolic item representing membership to the Fraternity. If a newly initiated EA was asked any question about FM or it's symbolism they weren't confident discussing they should be encouraged to say that they are new to the Brotherhood, still learning and, if the person questioning them is truly interested, that they will endeavor to seek the answer to their question and get back to them.
There is already an item that serves to distinguish the degrees - The lamp skin apron in it's various designs relevant to each degree. In public they aren't generally worn these days and being seen to be a Mason is about being simply a Mason not which degree you are in my opinion. If anyone asks you can tell them.
I'd also state if a EA isn't aware of the basic meaning behind the S&C then their Lodge/mentor(s) are not doing what they should be immediately post initiation with regards to (at the earliest opportunity) having freedom of movement to informally walk around and discuss the Lodge, items within it etc. This can be done prior to the formal presentation of the First Degree Tracing Board or post.
EAs/FCs are Freemasons and should be able to wear pins and rings just as a Master Mason would. Look to places like Australia where EAs are presented FM lapel pins and rings upon being initiated and all Masons from EA to MM can wear the same (often Lodge specific) ring (or another design that may be gifted from a Mason friend or relative or even self purchased). The fraternity should be more inclusive from the get go and do away with any kind of elitist or class attitudes to include such nonsense as "you can't wear a pin or ring until you are a "real" Mason. It is contra to being on the level and equal as Brothers and also contradicts the conclusion of the First Degree initiation where the candidate is informed he is now a Freemason.
@@Anonymous-zn4xl I didn't mention any state laws??? There are no such laws where I am from.....
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Have been following you for about a few years. Last May 2nd I was initiated. Thank you for all your teachings!
My lodge gives you a S&C pin on your initiation and encourages you to wear it as you see fit.
While there are variations to how the emblem is displayed it’s also the emblem of the fraternity.
Interesting. Thank you for sharing.
Same goes in TN. There is a specific part of the EA that makes and lets you know that you are a Mason. As far as wearing symbols, I was told not to worry about them at that time. I was instructed to study the craft and wait until receiving my third degree to even worry about that. I was told that I should be able to explain what it means before wearing it. Another great video Brother, keep it up.
I like the concept that you should be able to explain them before you wear them. Seems like good advice to me!
And to piggyback on that it is against the code for an EA or FC to wear it until they are a MM
Hey brother Jared, the night that I was initiated as an EA, I was given the lapel pin for the Grand Lodge of Minnesota. It does have the MM square and Compass symbol on it, but I was told I could wear it.
While I might raise an eyebrow at that, I am glad that they want EA's to freely promote their association with the Craft.
Hi Bro, Salutes from Brazil. A very interesting theme, here in Brazil we use the terminology mason for all three degree, like Aprentice mason, fellow mason and master mason.
Interesting. Thanks for sharing!
In the Jurisdiction of the UGL of NSW and ACT, membership in the lodge begins in the EA degree. We sign the by-laws in that degree as well as pay our dues starting therefrom. EAs are also entitled to a masonic funeral. At out initiation, the District Grand Inspector of Workings (equivalent to a DDGM) gives you a lapel pin to wear whenever you please. The pin is the S&C in the MM configuration.
Adding to that; it takes at least a year before you complete your degrees in this jurisdiction. It's not uncommon to see a brother completing his degrees for a span of five years.
I liked everything you said - except that an EA is purposefully given a MM pin and told he can wear it. That concerns me.
Well I can say that I do agree with you when I was at the end of my EA one of my family members bought me a hat with the square and compass and of course I wore it on several occasions not only because I was proud of finally doing my gift back for EA but also I am proud to say that I am a mason. So for now I will keep that hat tucked in the closet until the right time or as you said every degree has its working tools/emblems. So I think it would be more appropriate for me to wear something that represents my degree I am currently in. Good point.
I sincerely appreciate your consideration, Brother.
Same thing kinda happened. To me ! I left my hat in a movie theater accidentally!! I wish remembered what movie I saw. Snow blower or it wasn't John wick 3 maybe elita the battle angle. Anyways. I left it there. And for some reason. I just never went and got it. I felt the hat found a new home maybe the owner if the movie theater was a Mason. I am petitioning. Have my signatures. Don't feel bad. I wore my mason hat everywhere. And we Mason's asked me about it. I just said my grandpa was a Mason. My great grandma was like tge leader at eastern star. I come from a Masonic family. And go to dinners. But just haven't joined yet personal reasons. I will rise to 33d degree and be a Shriner and Scottish rite.
Great video brother Jared. I’m approaching my FC soon and this came in quite handy although I wish I would have seen this video prior to EA 1º initiation. I am enjoying it thus far and have fully memorized my OB and moving upward to the 2º. In my jurisdiction and lodge, you can wear the EA S&C however one doesn’t stay in that degree long for the most part so as you mentioned, it may be beneficial to wait. I do have a EA S&C teeshirt but thats all I wanted to invest in until after being raised. I also want to say that in part, it is because of you that I got the inspiration to finally apply to become a Freemason, and guess what, I am loving it. Thank you brother Jared.
Same thoughts brother. Thank you brother Jared.
In AL, in order to wear ANY masonic symbols (car tag, rings, lapel pins, clothing, etc) you HAVE to be a Master Mason.
i never got my square compass pin till after i had done my third degree questions and got my master masons certificate,like wise with royal arch.
Well, here in Germany from the moment after you initiation, you´re allowed to give your opinion to anything, you are allowed to vote, to discuss the Agenda and you can definitely wear a pin or anything else. Two days after my initiation, i received a pin as a gift from a MM in the Lodge. Here in Germany takes at least 2 years to be raised if you are an active member.
Good to know, thank you for sharing!
I’ve seen an EA pin before. However, I believe as an EA, you’re in a learning process and should be not put yourself in a situation where you may end up getting examined by a Brother you do not know or even one that you shouldn’t be sending or receiving light from.
I agree that that would be the smart way to play it.
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Here in Ontario, Canada, Victoria District.. pretty well resonates with what you have had to say and your jurisdiction in Mississippi. I don't know if it is illigal or not but it is frowned upon by the order, to be a Cowan basically.
As for myself, these past 3 months between my first step up to the local lodge, their summertime shut down, being invited to their annual BBQ last week (they hold this during their first meeting, and simple hamburgers were actually really amazing lol) my application was read that night, I have an interview coming this Thursday. :) Truely I can only thank you and many others for the work you do. Thank you! You have helped me lots with your videos
I am grateful to know that the videos were a benefit to you. Congratulations and Good Luck!
How did it go? Luv to hear some of your story!!🙏👁
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I am really enjoying your videos. I am from the UK (England to be exact) and I am going to be initiated in October. As far as I can gather, things are done a bit differently but your videos are very informative all the same. I notice you stopped uploading videos a year ago. Will you be returning at some point?
Hey brother, how was your journey through the grand lodge of England? I'm from the states, and would love to visit the grand lodge of England one day!
@@mynameisinigomontoya8179 It has really been an amazing journey! I was initiated on the 7th of October 2021 and am now a Master Mason and a Royal Arch Mason. I am quite active and do a lot of visiting. I love it!
I hope you get to visit someday soon.
@@ukchristian28 that's amazing, congratulations! Im going for my own EA in two weeks, and plan to go up both the Scottish and York rites once I'm a master. I'm actually already planning a presentation of sorts for my own lodge (Atlas Pythagoras number 10, New Jersey, USA) based on the relationship of master masons and their masonic rings,.and the history of masonic rings. In England, do you chaps also wear rings? It's awesome to talk to someone from across the pond about this, wish I could do so more privately and message you elsewhere, fascinated with how things are done there! Anyway, I deeply appreciate you responding and I hope you continue your very fruitful journey in Masonry. Soon I'll be able to call you brother 😉. Be well my friend!
In my lodge the ea and fc can not wear a s&c unless its of that degree he holds.
It actually surprises me that any lodge would be any different.
In England I don't think we have different EA FC AND MM square and compass we tell the difference in the aprons that they were. But once you are a EA in your lodge you have all the rights to vote, propose and second as any other member of the lodge. But we do pay full subs from your first day
Interesting! I am all for EA's having to pay dues!
There are 3 here in the UK... points behind the square is EA....
I have to pay my dues with my petition. Lol.
I'm sure this is a question for the worshipful master of my lodge. But, my grandfather, a past 32nd degree master mason, has bequeathed to me a master mason ring. I'm not wearing it, but very soon I will be initiated into Freemasonry (the interviews have all went well). It has been willed that I keep it once I am initiated into Freemasonry. So, do I just keep it in a safe place until later? My grandfather was a great man, and it would comfort me to wear his ring.
Yes, just keep it in a safe place until the time is right. What a wonderful treasure to have.
What is a Mason
Yes, I will keep it in a safe place until I become a master mason. I do cherish it and am glad my grandfather chose me of all people to give it to. Thank you for answering.
You can buy FC rings, never seen any EA apparel, but I don’t see the point if you are more than likely going to be raised in a year, on that same token we did have one fella come in for his EA and after that got a full S&C back piece done(tattoo)... we never saw him again.. that could make for some interesting conversation when he takes his shirt off at the beach and gets questioned by a real MM...
It does seem that he was a little over eager, doesn't it. Maybe an awkward conversation like that would encourage him to finish his degrees.
If you have gone through your first ceremony and accepted as an Apprentice..then you are a Free Mason but ONLY as an Apprentice until your knowledge has been proven and you allowed to seek the level of Fellowcraft/Journeyman.
Here in the province of Hampshire & Isle of Wight in England, all new entered apprentices are given a label button of a Forget me Knot flower. This remembers the brethren who lost their lives in Nazi Germany. I do not know if other provinces in England do this.
Thank you for sharing.
I recently was raised to a Master Mason and at no point did anyone inform of any restrictions regarding symbols. I didn’t have any rings or tee shirts at the time so I guess it wouldn’t have been an issue. I will say this, Freemasonry is losing members every year due to the current social culture in America. I think as an organization we need to discuss how to appeal to this generation and share this wonderful craft.
I think we have certain organizational and administrative needs that can be served better by "updating" how things are done - but as for cultural appeal - I'm not so sure. For me, Freemasonry is great because it stands by its roots, not that it bends in the wind to new trends.
From my experience someone will counsel the new brother, informing them that while it is okay to accept gifts of pins, etc. or to purchase the same, they cannot publicly wear or display them until after their Raising.
Somewhat related, another thing that some lodges do either immediately after a new brother's Initiation or Passing, or upon their request, is issue them an Entered Apprentice card or Fellowcraft card, respectively. The card permits them to sit in other lodges within Oklahoma (when open on EA or FC of course) unaccompanied by a Master Mason from their lodge. The primary purpose is to allow them to observe the degree that they just went through at their earliest convenience.
The card idea is nice. Sounds like y'all use it pretty good too.
We would want an EA or FC to be accompanied to another lodge if they were going to observe a degree appropriate to their level. This is both to be able to answer any questions they may have and to make the necessary introductions and to vouch for their status. We do not issue any document indicating they have been entered or passed. And even if we did, a dues card is not sufficient to be admitted to a Lodge if no one there knows you to be a Mason, you have to be examined as well and we have no examination for an EA and/or FC.
Ryan Frederick it is very helpful, I'm beginning my memory work now after getting initiated, and in OK, they make you memorize the whole thing! Owasso lodge #545 E.A.
In North Carolina it’s told that you don’t display the symbol until your raising. We don’t do he cards where I’m from but your coach takes you to degree work of the appropriate level if possible. I found when going through it helped me memorize when I saw it unfold in front of me. It’s hard to get a feel for what’s going on while you’re going through the degree. If you know what I mean then you know. haha. Gaston Lodge #263
I had no idea. I actually bought a neckles of the master mason sign and had no idea I had to be one in order to represent. I hope I didn't offend any brothers, because I want to become a freemason and I live in Ohio. your video are every helpful insight. I now understand what I must do in order to achieve my dream. thank you Jared.
I doubt you offended anybody. I am glad the videos are of some help!
Please don't take offence, because I do not, but feel free to call me Jared, mum always did :-)
What is a Mason that's a relief to know.
Had no idea I misspelled your name, my apology. I corrected the error. these videos are great. I love the navy tie by the way. the one in your other videos with the hidden compass and square in the tie.
Thanks!
4:10 well did you study independently? Can you accomplish what you say can? Do you not increase harm done when you practice?
Then what is the point of the institution in the first place - beyond something your ego can show the world in which you believe you’re above it.
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I so appreciate this talk! I raised the very same in my lodge. And cautiously pointed out the differences in symbols per its degree and was told it would be best if it weren’t worn at all until one was Raised. 🤷🏽♂️ I get it 😏 I have to wait a few more weeks until I am Raised👍🏽🤣🙏🏽Ty again for this. I’m in Cali.
my WM told me that in my state we have to wait till we reach MM before we can wear the symbol. kind of like an all-in-one. i found a ring i like and gave it to him to give to me when i'm raised.
Greetings! I'm a FC, soon to be MM, from Masonic Lodge Ignacio Zaragoza#3 AF&AM in Tijuana, Mexico. I really appreciate your work brother. In my lodge if an EA/FC really wants to wear jewelry it must be within the symbology of his degree but is customary, like most lodges, for MM to only wear the SC.
Thank you, Brother, for letting me know, and for watching the videos. Fraternal Greetings!
I'm a fellowcraft now. I'm getting my third in November. I purchased a shirt that has the American flag and mason square and compass on it. I'm not wearing it in public until I get my third degree. I just wear it at home for now. But I'm excited. Just 3 more weeks and I can wear my shirt to town and slap this nice decal on the back of my jeep. Haha
Awesome. I'm glad you're excited. I hope it's an enthusiasm you are able to keep for a long time.
@L P Oh, I am healthy as of now. I am employed through my father. Our trade is crop and dairy farming.
@L P oh I'm sorry. From day of initiation No I did not have issues with my job. No I did not have trouble with my health. 1. No 2. No
@L P idk what they did to you at your initiation, but no, my skin did not turn grey. The only health issue I ever had was knee pain. That's only because I broke my femur last November. So no. This is very odd.
@L P This is worrying for me. Because there should be nothing involved making you "turn grey" unless you're outside the US I suppose. But yes, I prefer the company of woman. Can I ask how any of this pertains to research ?
Love your videos. Because I am a second degree now. You have helped me understand a lot
Thank you for letting me know the videos matter. Congrats on your progress!
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In my EA initiation (last night) I was awarded a MM lapel pin with an accompanying letter from grand lodge saying "I hope you will be proud to wear this in your community".
After my ceremony DC said "now I don't recommend you wear this to Lodge, as we all know you are a Mason, wear it in public instead."
To which I replied; "does this mean I can wear my ring now?".
"Brother, you are now a Mason, be proud and represent wherever you like."
This was very surprising to me as I've seen sooo many USA Brothers complaining about EAs and FCs wearing a lapel pin or ring....
I’m an EA in the state of Illinois Union Park #610 A.F.A.M. Thank you for a better understanding. I am subscribed to your channel. SMIB
Welcome, and thanks for watching!
What is a Mason
Thank you.
my local GL recognises you as a mason upon EA obligation, and then afterwards the WM or GL representative will give you a pin that (you say represents a MM) but here represents all masonry. So to use your analogy, its not a doctoral certificate, the S&C are the equivalent of a first aid certificate.
I am sorry if I was not clear. For us, the arrangement of the S&C changes with each degree. Most apparel and accessories are designed with the S&C in what we would call the MM arrangement. Yes, as an EA we also consider you a Mason - period - but because the arrangement of our S&C changes through degrees, we advise them against wearing it until they receive the 3rd degree.
thats cool, I see what youre getting at. :)
In my jurisdiction from the day you are initiated you are able to wear the S&C and this was demonstrated to me by being given two lapel pins which I was encouraged to wear them whenever I feel comfortable.I personally am waiting until I am raised to wear a ring however.
That is interesting. Are you willing to share what jurisdiction that is?
Same here. I was given a Lapel pin the night of my initiation in the form of a MM S&C & another Identical one at a lodge I visited, was presented to me by my Deputy GM, & he encouraged me to wear it where ever or whenever I can. He wanted for me to let people know Freemasonry is still about, & expressed concern for dwindling numbers over the last few decades, hence all the approved Facebook pages etc. I am an EA, & will be a FC in a couple of weeks time.
Where I am We are not full member until we are a master Mason
In your initiation, you will be told what you are if you so choose to proceed. You're not a dues paying "IGS" Mason here, but you are a brother.
So here in the UK while the positions of the compass illustrate the part of the journey the brother has reached, as far as I'm aware we use that symbol to represent the brotherhood when it's on books, clothing, stickers etc. So just as answered in part one of this video, a brother is a brother and displaying the square and compasses just shows his membership.
Thanks!
Correct and as it should be across the Earth's surface :-)
Great Explanation.... What I love most about this video is that it explains in full on how to properly defend and use the logo. For myself I already knew the way if ever i was asked, but moreover i'm extremely glad you made this vid because I can recall having a debate with a brother about this and he is a MM however he didn't think I should be wearing my EA ring even though I could defend my degree when tested. He is from a different country though, In the Caribbean to be exact and they do things a bit differently but what was most funny to me was that he is a MM and didnt recognize that the ring was for an EA and he had it in his hand... had me confused a bit lol. I initially didnt adhere to his request simply because im also a Master Oddfellow and I can honestly say that i comprehend fraternal works and the importance of mastering and being able to defend each level. Im the youngest in both my lodge and I want the elders to see the same enthusiasm they had when they came into the craft.
I could be mistaken, but I do not think that every jurisdiction adjusts the S&Q from EA to MM - it is always in the "MM Style", so to speak. Instead their differentiation is always made by a different apron - not just how the apron is worn, but a completely different apron.
I think your right . We have a museum in london with all different kinds of aprons from regular lodge ones to rare ones going all the way back to the point of being marked undated. Its very interesting to know how far the craft has came.
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“... and didn’t recognize the ring was for an EA”
Maybe, maybe not. Some jurisdictions reserve wearing the S&C until after the MM and as result the usual emblem is shown. Others jurisdictions permit wearing the S&C with other than MM arrangement, however, the brother is still required to have advanced to MM.
I met some brothers in Thessaloniki who explained this after we noticed the differences between our rings.
So it’s more to it in some places other than just wearing an EA piece of jewelry, you may be required to defend it. 🤷🏽♂️
Ours is your not allowed to wear compass and square until 3rd degree
What if u just like the piece, and ur not saying u are that? What if it’s for visual affirmation?
This is huge. There was a guy i saw with a Masonic tattoo on his neck. And honestly he seemed mental. I am in the process of becoming a Mason. Petitioning. I have my signatures. Anyways. I have not done my EA. Still though I don't think this guy was a Mason. Who knows. I attend a Israeli dance class at Masonic Lodge but that's not the lodge I am petitioning at. Different one the folk dance group just rents out the dinning room. It us so much FUN! And i like entering in Masonic buildings it does something. Don't want to sound cheesey. But Freeing. I feel free. Like all this fear goes away. Really bizarre. Sort of like Church. But I get confidence as well as a freeing experience. I just learned the different symbols for EA FC and MM. That's rad. Really good video. I never new you couldn't represent that symbol if not a Mason. I have seen Masonic rings in pawn stores. I always thought that was inappropriate. One thing that bothers me is everyone thinks Mason's are rich. I feel like everyone in my lodge is in the military or is maybe well off. Doesn't matter. I will join hopefully!! I have a good chance grandpa was a Mason. And I have a 33 degree that likes me. And signed for me fits my back. Yeeee! Cool video Jared. Good stuff. 🤗😎👍💪🕴️🌻🖤💙🌠
Hey Bro. Ty very much jus subscribed to your page... I Am an EA out of Orlando Fl Bros Of Ranglin 514... Thanx again for shining on us...
Congratulations, Brother. I hope your studies go well and that you will be a Fellow of the Craft soon! Thanks for joining us on the channel.
Lmao this reminds me of when I was a recruit in the Marines at bootcamp.
We’re best friends till I walk in - after I’m there, *”YOURE A WORM!”*
I suppose that just means you’re a bird
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did the first meeting at the lodge soon to be a entered apprentice and hopefully one day a master. i am 20 years old
Congratulations!
Soon as you’re 21 right??
I’m a FC I have a whole ring now and before I became an EA I had a bracelet with our symbol on it and when I became an official EA I started to wear the bracelet, my master craftsman told me I’m technically not allowed to wear anything like that until I’m a master mason. So when I went to take it off he chuckled and said it was okay lol as long as you’re a mason and you’re becoming a master mason within the year you joined it shouldn’t really matter. Getting the symbol TATTED? Before you’re a master mason? That’s a bit too far.
I'm glad your lodge handled it so well.
It depends on the master. Generally no light until you're raised. But I have seen bros (EA FC) wear the point within a circle and parallel lines or the forget me not.
I don't think I've ever seen a pin with the circumpunct along, or with the parallel lines. I'll have to check that out.
I am a new applicant and have been watching videos like this , its been very helpful ... But even if it were OK for a Apprentice to wear the symbol , I wouldn't feel worthy to do so until I got my 3rd degree .. But to knowingly misrepresent ones self would be very Un-Mason like , would it not ?
Indeed, it would be.
When I was entered and apprentice I wanted to display the Square and Compasses so badly. Now, whenever I see or hear EAs or Fellowcrafts mention this, I remind them that even the collegiate graduate has to wait to turn the tassel until the end of the ceremony. In due time. All in due time.
Wow I find the fact its actually a crime astonishing, I don't believe it is here in the UK. How many other states does this apply to?
I am not sure how many other states might have similar laws.
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good explanation
I've been wearing the 47th Problem of Euclid with no problems most don't Evan know what it is
If you don't know what it is, why are you wearing it? Seems like an unusual symbol to just wear around because it looks cool.
Thank you Brother
My Pleasure, thank you for watching.
Why is the compass behind the square in the beginning but moves to the front of the square later on? At 2:17 onwards?
If you were to ever join, you would find out ;-)
I need that tie! 🤣
What is the symbol for a entered apprentice?
What does the entered apprentice compass look like or is the square and compass doesn't have the G in it
In the thumbnail for the video it is the uppermost one, the one at the top. The square and compasses without the G is common in lodges outside of the USA. The "G" is largely, but not entirely, a USA "thing".
@@WhatisaMason I'm a little confused, but I was told I was not allowed to display any type of S&C at all. I had made a pic for my profile with a faint one visible in a layer but after watching this video, I took it down. But upon being Raised an EA, I was told no S&C at all in any fashion was allowed. Yet, you have here one that is for an EA with the Square covering the Compass legs. I'll have to ask my WM
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If an EA is excited and makes hand signs like a MM. And really did not know any better. They were just excited. But a MM took it the wrong way. Are MMs going to screw him over?
How would the EA know any MM hand signs, as you call them, unless he went looking for that which was not yet his to have? Perhaps I am misunderstanding?
I like to think of it along the lines of stolen valor. If you haven't earned it then you shouldn't wear it. I had to wait my time and go through my degrees to brandish the s&c's.
That's certainly one way to view it.
Can you do a video on what a white/Caucasian male can expect joining prince hall like me?
No, I really cannot, since PHA is clandestine here I have not had that experience. Perhaps in the future I can interview someone who can elaborate for us.
Clandestine is a derogative term used that I disagree with. It's no secret Mississippi has a long history of racial divide and I think that is part of the reason PHA struggles there. What can your lodges do to reverse that viewpoint.
Their is a channel called prince hall think tank and honestly ive met white prince hall masons they dont get treated differently
when I originally joined, I asked about the symbol and wasn't told about an EA symbol.aside from the pillar , handshake and other lesson based symbols, but nothing I could wear I was told t wait for third degree
Interesting. I wonder if that was the "easy answer" or if you really cannot wear anything where you are.
What is a Mason it was in Pensacola Florida, if you have access to their standards maybe you could find out, I'm now in Michigan , and will be encountering new standards .
Very helpful video as I will be starting my Journey within the upcoming month and will inquire more regarding that great question and answer 👍
Congratulations on being accepted. I hope your Initiation is everything you hope it to be. I look forward to fielding some of your questions!
What is a Mason Thank you and likewise I like brothers like you that are willing to teach the essentials like this and apologies for the delayed response as here in South Florida we just got through hurricane irma nonetheless I look forward to more of your future videos
I hope you and yours fared well through the hurricane.
What is a Mason Yes sir everyone is well here in South Florida for the most part we are doing our part to ensure that everyone is safe along with clean up around neighborhoods, thanks for taking time to double check it's much appreciated as always
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Another great one sir, keep up the good work!!
Thanks Brother, I shall endeavor to!
Love your videos
Thank you!
Where did you hear it was a crime to call your self a mason if your not one
I did not hear it, I read it, in the Mississippi State Code.
Miss. Code Ann. § 97-19-43
@@WhatisaMason wonder what other states have that
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Can the PM embroidery be made just S&C? If so, where could I order one.
While the PM emblem usually includes a sun in the center, some jurisdictions do use variations. You should check for where you are.
As for my shirt, I just bought a shirt, took it to and embroidery shop, and had it done.
Is there a difference between being a Mason and Freemason ?
Well, yes. There are, of course, still Operative Masons - folks who are actually in the trade and business of building with stone/brick. Freemasons are the Speculative Masons who might never lay a single stone, but learn moral lessons using the tools/instruments of Masonry.
However, it is quite common to shorthand Freemason to just Mason, as seen in the MS State Code, and several areas within Freemasonry itself.
Hello sir, I just want to ask this simple question about the first 2 degrees.
If I may ask are Entered Apprentice Degree and Fellow Craft Degree are they already allowed to wear a masonic ring?
Hope to hear your feedback sir.
In Mississippi they would not be permitted to wear the S&C in the MM fashion. If they really wanted to spend their money on a ring for their appropriate degree, they may, but most are MM's within a year, so the extra expense isn't really worth it.
What is a Mason I understand you can't wear a MM's symbol if you haven't reach that degree. thank you so much sir I hope to learn more about your videos it shows and teach me a lot.
I'm glad the videos are of some benefit!
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Great Video.
Thanks! I hope you are able to share it with others!
One interesting distinction, at least in MS, is that EA's and FC's are not members of the lodge.
True - and I believe that holds true for the majority of GL's in the USA.
Michael Baker i think that's owing to the fact that they have not signed the bylaws, but it's important to make note they are perfecting their work under the auspices of the lodge.
Do I have to swear a oath to become a mason?
Yes. th-cam.com/video/gf4S9tCHTHQ/w-d-xo.html
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Can a Freemason get the Freemason symbol tattooed on them?
I can do a video on that. Thanks for the Q.
What is a Mason I'd like to hear more about that also, I think When My Grandfather was a Mason back in his day, it was said that it was frowned upon!! Your input would be appreciated!!
Yes they can and many do.
Like Clash song should i go ore should stay?!☺.. (sorry my bad english)☺..
According to the Mark Master degree, HE IS NOT a Mason!!! Damn, jurisdiction, according to the mark master degree across the board, HE IS NOT a Freemason. ☝🏾🇲🇦🕌
I must have received a different Mark Master degree than you did.
Those lower-thirds are verrrry eye catching!
Is that good, or is it distracting (bad)?
Um...I'm good with them. Just instantly worked as they were supposed to, so I thought I'd comment. Keep up the quality vids!
Awesome, thanks for letting me know!
I couldn't wear the S&C till my 3rd degree.
None? Not of any configuration? Where are you where that is a rule?
no they are masons ! you then become freemason at 3rd
and what is your mission because you don't teach about salvation in free massonery
They don't teach salvation at my work, either, but I still go.
Good point Jared. I can go super deep in a response. But I don't have to right now. Going to sleep big day in taking action tomorrow living life!! Yeeeee haaaa. There's some salvation right there.
EAs are FMs and should be paying dues, voting and be fully entitled to wear rings, pins and anything else. To do otherwise is contra to all being on the level. It would be like saying if you joined the Marines you couldn't display the USMC emblem until you were a SNCO for example. Silly and in my mind immature and elitist.
In a craft guild, like the stone masons, do you think every newly entered apprentice should be permitted to design the next castle that was to be built? Should everyone be permitted to chisel the stone? Or, are there some basic tasks one must learn first, and then be advanced through their learning?
If someone spent 10 years working and learning and eventually is set apart by his brethren by an election, should that officer be able to be identified with that office, or should he look like every other apprentice at the job site?
Being "on the level" is a concept about how we treat each other. Sure, someone may be the newest apprentice, but that doesn't mean I should treat him unkindly. I should listen to his opinion, but he has not yet proven himself to be skilled enough in the craft to vote on how the work should be accomplished.
Your SNCO example is a great one. That new Pvt doesn't get to come into the Marines and slap on a SgtMaj rank. Same applies here. The square and compasses aren't just the logo of freemasonry, if you will. Instead they represent the rank achieved by the man wearing them. And, as I stated in the video, you can find EA and FC jewelry, if you really want, but if you put any effort at all in your advancement, you'll earn the MM degree long before that Marine can become a SgtMaj, so, perhaps, most would rather just wait and spend their money once, rather than buying the jewelry for each rank along the way.
@@WhatisaMason designing a castle requires skill, knowledge and experience the apprentice does not have. Wearing an accoutrement representing being a member of a group requires no experience only that the person wearing it is a member of the organization.
The issue here is that in certain places the S&C is seen to denote rank vs simple belonging as it does in other places. Freemasonry has degrees not ranks they are very different things. In the military rank denotes superiority both legally and in authority in Freemasonry jewels and certain items of dress etc denote the FM has stewardship (temporary) of a role or position or has achieved certain milestones in their past but, even though they may have/had additional tasks/responsibility, are in no way superior or above their fellow Brothers. Knowledge/Skill + Experience = Wisdom is seen as something to unite through sharing vs a source of power or authority over others.
I see the S&C (if we use the military analogy) as the USMC emblem which all Marine's wear for example not as a rank. Other Mason's clearly see it as rank.
With regard to voting the EA or FC is only present in Lodges opened to the degree they have reached so they only vote on matters relating to their degree. Should a matter require consideration from more experienced Masons then it should simply be reserved for Lodges opened in the 3rd Degree.
I have mentioned before that in places like Australia EAs pay dues, vote and at their initiation as EAs are presented a S&C lapel pin from the Grand Lodge. They are also often presented a signature tie or ring representing their specific lodge resplendent with S&C! In short "Down Under" the S&C is seen as the symbol of all Freemason's and not a badge of rank reserved for MM. I believe that is the way to go and it certainly works. If anyone can see how that could be negative in any sense I'd be interested to know why.
Not only is this a massive deal to those new EAs it makes them feel from the outset they are truly Masons (which they undoubtedly are despite their lack of experience). It in no way detracts from the accomplishment of being passed to the second or becoming a MM. It also serves to help with spreading the word about FM with all the EAs and FCs able to display the iconic symbolism which often sparks discussion about The Craft from those that otherwise would never have known they were FMs.
Finally people talk of the S&C as a symbol earned as MM after having "paid your dues' and through experience attaining MM. The fact some places hand out MM in a day makes that point of view redundant. In one place a person can attain MM and wear the S&C in hours while a FC who may have been a Mason for a year cannot? I would argue the EA or FC who has been so for months has a broader understanding of Freemasonry than the one day MM. Yes they are not yet privvy to certain elements handed out to the MM in mere hours relevant to each degree but they would have likley spent countless more hours in those months reading about and discussing Freemasonry, the Liberal Arts and Sciences, spirituality, preparing for their next examination etc and would run rings around the newly minted one day MM.
This may shock non Masons but you can attain MM by simply ticking boxes, doing some memory work and attending a set number of Lodges also without spending a single moment outside of that studying or applying the tenets of Freemasonry. You can also do it in a day with dozens or even hundreds of others in some places and have zero depth of knowledge ro even a sound base understanding fo FM then get theoretically around chastising a FC with 6 months or more as a FM for having a S&C bumper magnet??? What I am getting at is I also know EAs and FCs that dedicate more time to learning and applying FM than some MMs ever will. It is also not uncommon to see a EA or FC discussing a matter pertaining to FM that a MM present clearly has zero clue about....
In short (after that long reply) I maintain my belief, supported by the fact in many places it is common practice and works to the benefit of junior FMs in their sense of belonging and the Brotherhood in having more exposure to the general public, that the S&C is the symbol of all FMs and not a badge of rank to be reserved for MM and as such should be worn proudly by all FMs regardless of Degree or experience. I also question how one becomes a "Master" without attending Lodge? Using the castle analogy that would be like the head planner/builder being in charge who had been given such title in a day and had never set foot in a castle before! If that were the case I rather the apprentice with 6 months of study and practical skills to have the job :-)
Brother, I appreciate your position and how well you defended it. Since anybody of any age, gender, intent, etc., can get what ever masonic pin they want online (why stop at the S&C, why not get a 33rd cross, or a Rosicrucian pin), the whole concern I have is, admittedly, moot. Further, all the jurisdictional differences certainly complicate matters. As you say, if I wear a S&C pin to AUS, I'll be be presumed to a mason, period. However, if someone from AUS visits a lodge in my area and wears a S&C, but says he is an EA, the brethren would raise an eyebrow - mostly in ignorance because they don't know the jurisdictional differences. This is why, of course, we rely on the modes of recognition and not jewelry.
Practice properly, I would argue that a MM ought to have skill, knowledge and experience that the EA does not, just as with your castle builder. However, I accept your argument that that simply is not how the craft is practiced today. And that, to me and many others, is a large part of the equation that calculates what is "wrong" with Freemasonry today. MM's and EA's should work together and be "on the level" with one another, but the EA ought to be assured that the MM is in fact more informed than he and the MM ought to be always operating in a mentoring capacity - but that pipe dream just isn't what most of us experience. Instead we get EA's who think they know everything, or want to know everything day 1 (and some jurisdictions do, as you say, accommodate that desire by providing the title and degree of MM in a day), just as much as we have MM's who are utterly incapable of being mentors. This disparity is, in my eye, part of the reason Freemasonry is constricting, not expanding. Not that expansion is the goal - but when folks join and find out that even the MM's have no clue what they are talking about... why go back?
As such, we need to be asking applicants, point blank, if they truly feel they can improve upon themselves or not. Granted, they may simply give the expected "yes" answer, but if the mentor is doing their job properly they can gently whisper wise council into that Brother's ear and remind them that before they came a Mason they knew there was some personal growth to work on. This is useful should the brother start to waiver and express that he, somehow, 'knows better' than an officer in the lodge. Sure, he might (say he's a certified accountant and the treasurer does nothing financial for his employment). But there's still some passion to subdue there, and that's what the mentor is for.
Anyhow, I wish we could have this conversation in person, I would enjoy hearing more of your thoughts.
@@WhatisaMason Yes there are certainly cultural differences within Freemasonry. The key is of course (as we all well know) to respect whatever is the norm in the area we live and, just as with visiting other countries/cultures, to also be aware of any differences when we visit or interact interstate or abroad. While there are far more similarities than differences it is the differences that make visiting or even just bumping into Masons from other states, countries and cultures all the more interesting! With regard to earlier interaction and involvement of EAs/FCs prior to becoming MMs I believe it can only serve to them more rounded MMs (so long as they apply themselves). Others disagree with that methodology and are 100% within their right to do so. As with all endeavors we get out what we put in and in my experience the vast majority of FMs certainly put a lot of time, effort and study into The Craft. Love the channel and open honest discussions. If anyone out there thinks there is benefit to the exclusion of EAs/FCs from Lodge etc I'd certainly be keen to get their points of view and rationale.....
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