Octatrack for Dawless Techno Setup / Is this the best configuration for a Techno Live Set?
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In this Octatrack Tutorial I show how to create a template project for the Elektron Octatrack for a little Dawless Techno Setup. This setup itself consists of the Digitakt as a drum machine, Minimalist Modular as a dual voice mono synth and the Octatrack as a live mixer, looper and performance sampler.
I was exploring different ways to play a Techno Live Set and this particular setup became one of my favourite! The Octatrack fulfils all the gaps and helps Digitakt and Modular play together in harmony.
In my Mini Eurorack Modular I have 2 voices: Dixie2+ and Basimilus Iteritas Alter! What an amazing combination! I actually like putting 2 voices in one case. It gives a lot variety in sound creation and sound design.
If you are interested Octatrack Workflow, Modular Techno, Dawless Live Set Performance tips and full Walkthrough - this video is for you!
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⏱️ Timestamps
0:00 Intro
1:39 Hardware Connections
2:31 Few things about the Digitakt
3:11 Octatrack: Settings
4:02 Octatrack: Pattern, Scale, Pages
5:15 Octatrack: Tracks
9:34 Octatrack: Resampling & Master Tracks
11:32 Octatrack: Scenes
12:16 Octatrack: Resampling Scene
13:32 Octatrack: MIDI Track
14:00 Octatrack: Template Project
15:02 Demo Jam
19:39 Resampling Demo
20:45 Ducking Demo
22:11 Outro
🌍 Hello World! My name is Ihor.
This is my channel where I share my experiences, ideas, reviews and tutorials related to Electronic Music Production. I focus mostly on Techno and House music. In my Studio on my Music Production Desk you will find a variety of different gear like: digital and analog synth, eurorack modular, drum machine, sampler, effect, mixer, guitar pedal, MIDI controller. Also software: DAW, Ableton, VST, plugins.
I am myself an engineer and I am quite obsessed with the Music Technology and Sound Design. I like making music without a computer. I like playing Electronic Music Live with my Minimal Dawless Setup. I love Eurorack Modular Techno and always keen to talk about the modular workflow.
I strongly believe that nothing can be better than a good Dawless Techno Jam!
I watched all the Techno Tutorials on TH-cam! (I think)
📺 Thanks for watching! And have fun!
✌️ Peace.
#Techno #Dawless #Octatrack - เพลง
I love how you cannot keep yourself from dancing your own grooves, that's what does it for me,
Love the content, as usual, keep it coming!!!
Thank you Pablo! Glad you like my grooves! That meant a lot to me! ✌️ And I will keep dancing!
This template tip video is litterally what enabled me to start learning and performing on elektron machines and DAWless in general. It's been over a year now, thank you Ihor.
That is so great to hear! Nice!
This was great stuff! Inspirational! Thank you for posting your jam.
MATE, that was awesome! I've always found the Octatrack to be quite daunting and intimidating , but somehow with your settings and demo everything seems super clear! So thank you for that! Now I really want one...
The best Octatrack tutorial I've ever seen! Thanks
Great channel and content. I'm thinking on getting digitone, to add it to my other techno gear! Thank you and keep it up!
Thanks Ihor ! Always a pleasure to see you groovin' !
Thank you for kicking in! ✌️
Great job. Really appreciate how clearly things are explained.
Thank you! ✌️Glad you liked it!
Comprehensive and thorough. Great walk through! I’m going to check some settings on my template
Thank you Josh for your feedback! Glad you found it useful! ✌️
Thanks for the video, very helpful and super groovy!
Oh man! Ihor, this video helped me out so much! Also really digging the techno jam! 🤩
Fantastic. Love the workflow, the performance ideas, the production value...useful and entertaining. The music as well! Thank you!
Thank you Robin! It means a lot to me! ✌️
Great tutorial. Just bought a Rytm and have a modular setup. Reckon the OT is next. I actuallly owned one before but was using it in a different context . Makes sense heading back and using it for midi control and processing
Super comprehensive Octatrack workflow! Really enjoyed the jam too, thanks Ihor for the consistently awesome content!
It is my pleasure! Glad you dig it!
Love the energy, would love to see more of these Octa Dawless tips.
Currently, using that to integrate into the Poly2 Midi/CV, so finding new and interesting ways to use some of the Octa's capabilities is rad.
Love the vid, love the energy.
Thank you! It means a lot to me! ✌️
Poly 2 + OT must be a killer combination!
Thank you for taking the time to explain so quiet and calm while still feeling the groove. There is clearly a lot of experience and I do learn some valuabe stuff. Stay healthy and keep on doing music. Cheers!
Thank you Oliver ✌️
Great Tutorial, I feel like every time I watch something on the Octatrack I learn something new. What a machine!
Right? I also keep getting to know new things now and then. Awesome!
Great man, thank you so much for this tutorial! Buyed my octatrack one day ago and now I have it connected to all my machines and looping all 🙏🏻
Glad I could help! Amazing!
A very familiar setup! 😺 nice job Ihor!
Got inspired from one of Matts who said “I might end up having lots of neighbor tracks” 😉 Thank you for tuning in!
Nice amount of techno advices. Love your style✌🏻
Thank you!
Nice tutorial!
Gracias Ihor!
good audio demo, and extreme good balanced video exposure masking in order to get a clear visible octa screen, i think you are the only one in this community with these skills.
I recently discovered your channel after watching a LOT of synth tube over the years. I like your approach and examples that are more aligned with my music taste. Keep it up!
Thank you so much!
Really great tutorial and demo! I thought the pace was very good! I see a lot of tutorials that dwell on each menu and explain things in a little too much detail but you covered a lot of info quickly but still clearly. Looking forward to trying this template out!
Thank you very much Jeremy for your feedback! It goes about exactly what I wanted to deliver! It means a lot to me! I appreciate it! ✌️
Really inspiring stuff dude! I'll head right over to my octatrack again after watching this. It's an amazing machine for sure!
Glad you found this inspiring! It means a lot to me! ✌️
Thank you for this Ihor! As a newer Octa and modular user this is amazing.
Thank you! It means a lot to me! ✌️
Good video, helped me a lot. Your resampling technique is awesome
Glad it helped! Thanks for watching! ✌️
I have a TR8, TB3, and I'm tired of doing it all through ableton scenes and loops. This looks like an amazing approach. Thank you for this video, I think I will make the switch and try this to make it more organic. This looks perfect for rave acid and stuff
fire as always dude
I finally got to learn how to do ducking/ side-chaining on the OT with this! Thx. I must share my template somehow soon too somehow got a slightly different approach.
Glad you found it useful!✌️
I see that you have 2 volcas going into the OT. And drums are playing from the OT tracks right?
Good stuff, many thanks 👌👌👌
Thx Bro !!! u Tutorials helping me
So much inspiration of use my OT.... as always very cool ❤️
It is always my pleasure! So glad you got inspired! Thanks for watching Rons!✌️
thanks Ihor.. these kind of tutorials one youtube are a must. Easy to understand. you're a very good teacher! :-) Happy new year and a lots of fun with new music.
Thank you so much for your feedback!
Great tutorial and cool jam at the end
Thank you! ✌️
Great ! I saved it for later watching - gotta find some time! Thanks for sharing man!
It is always my pleasure! ✌️
Thx best way to explain me the use of OT in performance purposes. Thanks
SOOOOO HELPFUL!!! my Octa is arriving soon... excited to say the least. im gonna have to start by pairing it up with my MPC One since that's what i've been on for the past year. should be an interesting journey...
It should be an interesting one for sure!
Well done!
Awesome!😃
Man, thank you for this. I have a similar setup and your video is super useful. Really cool track too.
Glad it was helpful! Thank you!
thx Bro !!! u Tutorials helping me so very much
I am glad you found it helpful! Thanks for kicking in! ✌️
I love how much you love doing this
Thanks! ❤️
Ezbot, Ihor, messy desk and Ricky Tinez have saved my life. All great content creators and lovely people to boot. I think we need a collab. What does everyone else think?
Nice tutorial. Keeping a template is the best way to experiment with projects.
You love your music boy and your body grooving shows.
👌👌👍👍
Thanks Jo! I appreciate you!
This is awesome
Thank u for making set up for dawless look a fair bit less daunting! Might go fire up my generator and get to work on some drum patterns then bass lines(waiting a midi splitter cable so I can run everything together😅) cheers
Nice work mate
Thank you! ✌️
Masterful
Just what I needed. Great tutorial on template creation. Got like 90% on the first pass. Had lightbulb moment on the track 7 with min/max settings. Love the content. Your video (great lens/camera) and audio (clean) is on point. Please do more!!
Thank you for watching and for kind words of feedback!
@@IhorMediaMay I ask what cam you use? I’m also blown away how someone can learn the Octatrack AND video colour grading in one lifetime!
I like you man! Subbed. Currently using an OT, DT and just got the Typhon!
Thanks man! I appreciate you! I'm sure you will have a lot of fun with OT + DT + Typhon combo. Typhon is something quite interesting, especially because of it's size!
4:58 > I use the same method to determine the length of the current pattern and where I am currently. I often use different scales on my tracks, so I set the master length the same as the longest track in a current pattern, at any time I can go to the master track and find out when my pattern comes to an end. Great video as always Ihor :)
Exactly this! Also if I play with Analog Rytm, for example, I would set the master/fx track on it to 1/2 or 1/4 to have even a wider overview on where I am. OT would show where I am within 4 bars and Rytm within 8 or even 16 bars. Quite handy for a live set!
Thanks for kicking in! ✌️
Great vid
Cool and subscribed! 😎👍
Thanks Zac! ✌️
nice man. good OT skills. chicks dig it.
Thanks! ✌️
thanks, this is great
Thank you! ✌️
Thanks.🕺
Thanks!
Brother ❤️
Great Video and creation of template, Cheers :)
Thank you!✌️
@@IhorMedia thank you for your work and sharing your experience. Good luck to your channel.
@@MapaiiMusic I appreciate your kind words! Thank you!
Nice brother 👌 👏 👍 🙌 ❤
Excellent. ! Ive never used octa till ive build me a monstrus pc daw 🤣 now i use 2 octas with 2 tr8s on a xone43 and add all the bass lead etc sounds ive done on octas and make sets . Good effectors usage also. Only wish they were always in sync without using an acme Sometimes octa feels it aint so tight as its brothers four and rytm. Awesome setup man following
Thank you! Great setup you've got!
realy nice more from this i stand a few secound in front of to order me the octatrack couse i have al from elektron and i searck a mixer for my smal modular from moog.many thanks for inspiration
Like, nothing more to say!
Your channel is awesome
Thank you! ✌️
I really happy than I discovered you!
You helped me a lot with the workflow of the Octatrack and how I have to set up a DAWless Live Set :)
thank you!
The music is for me a little bit to hard but it's ok because you can explain really good what you are doing there :)
What is your favourite style of music?
@@IhorMedia I Really love Melodic Techno or some Melodic House beats with a dirty bassline 😅
You might like my latest video then! 😊
@@IhorMedia ou yes I really like it! :)
I'm happy about every video :)
Subscribed! :)
Great Video and setup. Dawles is best!
Thanks! Dawless ❤
@@IhorMedia I've done a lot of Dawless stuff 2 on Novation Circuit Tracks, Rhythm and Mininova . If you feel like, I would be glad if you risk a look at my channel, too. Beats and greetz from Germany! 🇩🇪🎧😉
Techno Fly video bombing at 6:33 😂
I thought "on my screen" but it was running under your Octatrack 😂
Such an annoying creature was that fly!
'nice'
The End 😎
That's an interesting idea of having neighbour tracks to do filter side chaining. I'll definitely have to try that
Nice! Glad my content helps!
@@IhorMedia coming back to your videos for inspiration right now. Currently putting together a 60 minute live set I'm playing next month in NL on the OT, an Erica synths db-01 and another sampler as a clip launcher
Nice! Great to know that people come for inspiration! I wish you to have a great gig! Where are you playing?
@@IhorMedia Hey, are you coming to MCH?
I'll be playing a gig on Friday at 8:30 on the OT btw :D You should come by if you're at the event!
@@kookiespace what is MCH?
Don't have an Octatrack (yet) but this was still fun to watch nonetheless!
Thank you Dylan! ✌️
Shoot, Just bought a octatrack becuase of this :) next on the shoppong list, a small modulair first timer :)
Nice! Hope you have fun with it!
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Great video! At 20:10 i can see how looping on the octatrack is handy for transitions and lets you change patterns on the digitakt and introduce new sounds. Can you also change full projects on the digitakt using this method (not just patterns), with the new digitakt project syncing to the tempo and phrase of the octa loop?
Thank you Sam! I guess you can change the project if you setup the OT as your main clock and transport. But you may indeed run into a syncing problem.
Very well explained, good video as always. I liked a lot the ducking trick, it seems the best I've seen.
Two tricks you may like:
I do the same with master to know where I am but sometimes with different scale, 1/4 for example, or 1/8 if I'm using a lot of conditionals 8:8. This way you can know if you want to make something at 32 bars.
And it can be nice to have the master track INF if you use polymeters and the chain (or change, never remember well) length to 8 to be able to change patterns. This option is a bit hidden and I don't remember now well, I think it's in Personalize and then in the pattern settings.
Thanks!
Hey Manuel! Thanks for your kind words! I appreciate it!
Thanks for the tricks you shared!
Regarding the INF thing - it is so confusing on the OT, to be honest. On the DT you can set Master: INF and Change Pattern: 64 and have fun with polymeters. I guess that hidden option on OT fixes that too. I will figure it out!
@@IhorMedia Hi, I found it:
In Control Menu, then Sequencer:
CHAIN AFTER controls when chained patterns will start to play. The default mode is PAT.LEN. When a pattern is playing and a new pattern is selected, the pattern currently playing will play to its end before the new pattern starts playing. If PER TRACK scale mode is active and a very long, or infinite, master length setting is used it might be more convenient to initiate a new pattern after the active pattern has played a certain amount of steps. Set the amount of steps using the LEVEL knob. This setting affects all patterns in a project, but can be overridden on a per pattern basis in the PATTERN SETTINGS menu. There the USE PRJ SET setting can be unchecked, allowing for a unique chaining behavior for the chosen pattern. Read more about the PER TRACK mode and the master length setting in section “12.15 SCALE SETUP” on page 78. Read more about the PATTERN SETTINGS menu in section “12.11 PATTERN SETTINGS MENU” on page 75.
In Pattern Settings menu:
USE PAT SET. CHAIN BEHAVIOR specifies for how long the active pattern will play before a cued pattern will start playing. To be able to change this setting, the USE PRJ SET. setting below must be unchecked. If PLEN is selected, the pattern will, depending on if NORMAL or PER TRACK mode is active for the pattern, play either according to the total step length of the pattern or the set master length before a chained pattern will begin playing. The other values possible to set are indicated in pattern step lengths. If the chosen value starts to blink that indicates the value exceeds the length of the pattern. The pattern will then play as if PLEN would have been selected.
USE PRJ SET. CHAIN BEHAVIOR will when checked use the chain behavior specified in the CHAIN AFTER menu. For more information, please see “8.6.3 SEQUENCER” on page 36.
@@hernandoando I've tried using these settings for a few times, but I've never succeeded. I think I am missing some elephant in the room. Gonna try it out again! Thanks for sharing!
wow that ducking trick is awesome ihor! do you have a video somewhere dedicated to how this works? if not, it could be a good idea!!!
Hah! Glad you liked it. I think I know a dozen of ways to duck all kinds of stuff on the Octatrack. Good idea for a video for sure! Thanks!
No idea why your channel doesn't have more subs. High production quality, great knowledge and explanation and good tunes as well. Nice!
Thank you for kind words!
Ihor, that's great. All inside you put outside. Like you say "Hello World" Until now my OT Templates will get the name Ihor-001 and so on ;-)
Hah! Thank you man! I am just being who I am 😉 Glad you kicked in! ✌️
I need to come to Amsterdam and check out the techno scene over there - groove lord movement at 19:38
I am sure AMS has some nice once. Thanks for kicking in! ✌️
often heard loopop? Iteration of 'that's pretty much it' is a phrase from loopop thousand times heard...😀
That's pretty much how I talk
Really great video! I have some oneshots on the octa, and I’m using your template, but have no tracks left. What to do?
Thanks for watching! ✌️
In that case I'd give up on some of the neighbour tracks. For example the the one for drum machine. It may not need 2 tracks to have 4 additional effects, since Digitakt has effects on its own. Or even just monitoring the DT from the Mixer and free up 2 tracks.
Ofcourse, i’m stupid... thank you😅
I accidentally had CC on from the previous video. So now I've learned a lot about triglycerides.
LOL
@@IhorMedia For reals tho, this video and the one where you cook up two techno tracks have been a huge source of inspiration while I'm slowly getting back to the Octatrack. Massive kudos, keep em comin'.
Thank you my friend!
good taste..
Thanks! ✌️
very cool jam!! interesting to see this live recording feature while performing. this is not possible with the Digitakt, right?
Thank you Markus! This kind of live looping is indeed not possible on the Digitakt. One of the reasons Octatrack is called "Performance Sampler" I guess. Quite unique piece of gear.
Hi Ehor, I was wondering what you can recommend for external hardware effects. Mainly delay and reverb. I was thinking eventide. Also, do you have a doscord server? I think it would be a great idea to grow your channel even more. 👍🏻
Hey! Eventide must be a good investment. Tho I don't own any of their stuff (yet). I've got ZOIA that has me kinda covered for effects if I need them. However ZOIA lacks on the immediate control imho. Because it doesn't have knobs per param and everything is like "configuration" rather than playing with knobs around. That's why I am thinking to get some more pedals/fx in the future.
I don't have my own Discord channel 😊 Maybe one day, but not now. Thanks for the idea!
Hi Ihor. Dope stuff. Two Quick questions about the Digitakt "No kick routing" .1. In what menu do you set this up? I can't seem to find it anywhere. 2. Does this routing also exclude the kick track from beeing affected by CNTRL ALL functions for example CNTRL ALL - PitchDown?
Love
Fentom
Hey Tymen! Thanks!
What I do is I exclude kick from going into FX sends (reverb and delay). You can find it in Settings -> Audio Routing -> Send to FX. This will not send any signal into FX even if you turn sends on this track up. However it won't exclude the kick from being affected by any other CTRL+ALL manipulation. I wish Elektron ads this feature to the machines!!!
Ihor hi
So look forward to all your streams but I admit the OT setup, programming I’m totally lost, complex and that your live looping with it as does Surgeon
I just want Digitakt now to form my setup with Modular and also considering getting RD-9 which should be out next few weeks also interested in Rample module lots of potential
Anyway Groove n Vibe on my friend
Martin🇬🇧🇬🇧🆒🎶🌈👍🌟
Hi Martin! Thanks for watching!
OT is indeed a complex machine at times! I hope my videos help people to get it better!
I never tried RD-9, but it must be a good 909 clone! And man, Surgeon is THE MAN! I love his work!
Techno viking!
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Awesome, but how do you multitrack record out from Octatrack into a DAW like Abelton?
I don't multitrack from Octatrack
Hey Ihor,
Would you please make a video for totally beginners like me and explain the basics because I have watched this video and other videos for you but I struggled because, I don’t have any background about music production and I really want to start learning it.
Hey Kereem,
This might be a good idea. I will give it a thought. Thanks for sharing.
i can send sidechain output from my TR8s to OT, but i cannot decide if i should main mix stereo output from TR8s or mono drums to A and mono sidechain to B into OT?
Wouldnt it be best to use digitakt as the master? If you dont sample on digitakt, can you not just use the output of octatrack into input of digitakt? And then utilise the digitakts effects? I havent tried it yet but I think that config could be good no?
I think at the moment of filming this DT didn't have external mixer feature. Now it can easily be an end of chain machine. I still wouldn't run the OT into it, but synths - always!
Ant techno !
Question: When I slowly fade between the resampled track 7 and the live machines I hear some phasing in my bassline. How can this be addressed? Thx for a great video.
Hey Lan5! Thanks for watching.
I've noticed this little phasing issue and I think it is kinda a natural thing. You can never have exactly the same sound, right? e. g. a little clock instability can cause it easily. Especially for a bassline sound, because waves are long and vulnerable to phase offsets. Basically if you are fading into the same, but recorded loop, do it faster 😁
Someone told me that Delay Compensate (User Manual: 8.6.2 INPUT) fixes it, but I don't think it fixes it for this particular situation. But maybe?
@@IhorMedia Yes, you are right. In practice faster scene changes avoids the issue. I can do slow fades on the digitone or rytm, then resample, move to new pattern or tweak sounds.
@@mindstuff417 yeah! Or if you fade into a loop with a different bassline, most time it works without any phase issue. 😉
how is set the amp vol on track 7?
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In your dawless setups, what do you use to record audio?
Main output goes into Focusrite audio interface and gets recorded in Ableton.
@@IhorMedia Thanks. In my case I use the MX-1 Roland, what do you suggest to record the audio?
@@Heleno. as far as I know you can connect MX-1 to the computer and it will detect it as an audio interface. Then it is a matter of recording output in your DAW, I think.
Another common way to record is a dedicated audio recorder.
Maybe you could help me out, Sir!
I would like to start produce own techno tracks and would like to know what I need. Budget is about 3000 Euros. I really like the Elektron hardware but don't know what do I need. Would a Rytm MK2 without anything else enough? Thank you in advance.
Hello, Sir! It of course depends on many things and you may not even need any gear to produce music. Just a computer with daw is going to get you covered.
Though if I had 3k to start with I’d consider getting Syntakt and Ableton Live Suite (or DAW of your choice). Assuming you have a computer already.
Rytm is also a great option, but I think Syntakt holds a bit better value for buck.