As a, somewhat, metalhead I have to say I almost always just hear the vocals as just another instrument. I have no idea what the vast majority of songs I listen too are even about. I'm sure I'm not the only one.
I used to be like that. But when I started reading lyrics I never went back. Metal songs with good lyrics go up another level for me. I also discovered that some songs I liked were actually not as good as I thought once I read the lyrics.
I'd say there are bands where they use the vocals like another instrument just to add some extra texture like Shylmagoghnar or for the vocals to be the main star like Angelmaker. It really depends on the band
@@swankykoala4836 I agree with that, but I still would usually have no idea what the song is about. I just generally don't care enough to really listen to the meaning.
The violinist, Tim Charles, is the clean singer, too. The harsh vocalist, Xenoyr, writes the lyrics and created the artwork you saw, too. They play like this, live, too, no difference in quality at all. I have seen them perform this song 11 times and it's always flawless. 🖤
2 guitarists. 2 vocalists. The clean vocalist is also the violinist. And the growling vocalist is the primary composer. And yes, the drummer is killing it the whole time. On a 2nd or 3rd listen do the live in Denver video to SEE the insane level of musicianship.
This is my first experience with this band, and I ENTHUSIASTICALLY agree. I will absolutely watch you react to this song again with the live version; I want to see your face when you witness what I just saw. Insane musicianship indeed! Here's the link (It's pro shot, too)-> th-cam.com/video/rNuVdsx7qJY/w-d-xo.html (omg, they out-One'd One.... Lars who?)
Had no idea the harsh vocalist was the primary composer too, that's insane! Always assumed it would've been one of the instrumentalists, since they're all so bloody talented.
The growling vocalist (Xenoyr) isn't the primary composer iirc. He is the one who writes all the lyrics and does all the artwork though, and I believe has directed some of their music videos. But each musician in the band composes their own parts, and the clean singer composes most of his own vocal lines, just not the lyrics for them.
I read all the comments looking for mentions that this song is included in a teaching curriculum at the Sydney Conservatorium of Music, one of Australia’s most prestigious classical Conservatories. The song will undergo a compositional analysis by Professor Matthew Hindson. :) If you copy everything from "teaching" above you'll find the article about it. Usually someone (or several people lol) mention this in the comments so I thought I'd keep the tradition going. I bet someone else has done it while I type this out haha. Pretty cool story though, and since you're a composer yourself... well you get the idea.
i had the privilege of meeting the band backstage after a concert in toronto (they were touring with Wintersun and Sarah Longfield, who i also met) and asking about that. they seemed oblivious to the fact. either they really were and it was a nice moment finding out, or they were pretending to be oblivious to be humble about it.
I see this get thrown around quite often as well. It may sound like the highest honors but it isn’t actually that big of a deal. In conservatories we study everything. I’ve even analyzed that cheesy Halloween song, “the monster mash.” It is definitely cool that the song is being analyzed at the collegiate level, but college music majors will study hundreds of pieces by the time they are done with their bachelors.
@@LightBringer666 I remember in an interview they said they didn't know there music was being studied at Sydney conservatorium of music until a fan mentioned it to them.
There's only 1 rule on metal: there are no rules. And it's not just a small jest there's so much diversity in metal as a genre that you can pretty much find bands that break almost any preconceived notion and only have a few common denominators when it comes to tracing back influences but that's about it.
Seconded. Genres are more of a general idea of what youre going to get for each band in that section, but there are no set 'rules' and experimentation is pretty much always welcomed unless you find some elitist pricks
@@KarRuptAssassin Completely agree with these guys. There are some pretentious elitists out there who define their own arbitrary rules as to how things should be, within their narrow little parameters. But honestly, if it works musically then it can be included in metal. There's really no restriction at all. Innovation is how metal grows.
Been a metalhead for 30 something years and definitely agree with all of you! So many people get caught up in the genre debate and loose focus on what the fuck metal is all about, awesome music and awesome people (mostly) 😅 yeah just like Karupt said, same for me, genres are just more if a way to sort of describe a band to someone...otherwise all you'd ever say is "oh yeah you should check out "insert band here" they sound sorta...badass....and yeah and also listen to "band" they sound more like...badass...." 🤣
@@weedsmokinmetalhead As a metalhead nearly as long as you, I'd just like to add that it's more than 'getting caught up in the genre debate' as Metal by and large has one of the most toxic communities I've ever been a part of. Some absolutely amazing people out there, but to this day it baffles me how people who love a genre of music generally regarded by most of the world as "just noise' can be so close minded in their own views.
But everyone does that one. It's great, but I wish people would make more varied recommendations. For example I could suggest Forest of October by Opeth.
@@Lleanlleawrg It's just that Baying of the Hounds is the perfect introduction to the band. It kicks ass and is as edgy as f**k but also has haunting beauty and instant hooks galore. The first time I heard it I was thinking "this is the best music I've ever heard!" and has remained so. Hessian Peel would be my next favourite track. I do love Forest of October though for sure.
@@Lleanlleawrg They do it's true, but I think the decomposer would do it better! I'd like to see many others too though. Windowpain, Eternal Rains Will Come, Heart In Hand to name a few that haven't had the love they deserve.
It’s mostly (99.9%) in the muting technique of the guitarist. We spend a lot of practice time making sure no string noise is happening where we don’t want it.
@@KeyOfGeebz In a sense. The actual quality of the sound is produced with the picking hand, by laying the side of the palm across the strings at the bridge of the guitar. (Palm muting) The flavour of the notes are then done with muting techniques on the fretting hand.
@@KeyOfGeebz I try to mute with everything I have haha. Noise gates are pretty ubiquitous, but they are typically set as low as possible so it doesn't prematurely cut off any notes. They are mostly used to reduce hiss and control feedback. Though some bands seem to have pretty extreme noise gate settings. One other thing to consider... often times these heavy tones aren't as overdriven as you might think. Double/quad tracking, the bass tone, and the mix contributes to perceived distortion.
@@KeyOfGeebz It's 2-hand muting and absolutely no reverb. Reverb is the bane of those kind of 'machine gun' 16th-note riffs. If you know Metallica's song "One", the outro riff, it uses the same thing - and Metallica's producers always insisted on No Reverb for their earlier albums.
I learned from The Charismatic Voice’s reaction to this song that it’s studied and analyzed by students at Sydney’s Conservatorium of Music, yours is an opinion shared by many
Solos really depend on sub genre or the general "scene" that music comes from. A lot of the more metalcore and deathcore guys don't have solos just coming from the hardcore punk their genre was influenced by. Most of the others coming from thrash, like death metal, or prog, like progressive metal and djent will have solos in abundance. Some really notable examples would be Necrophagist, Meshuggah, The Faceless. Regarding the palm muted tone, its a combination of gates, generally active pickups, and very practiced muting technique in both hands (left hand will typically "slap" the fretboard at the end of each grouping, while the heel or palm of the right hand mutes the string). Chops are sort of a prerequisite for most of this sort of music, from everyone; and theres not much money in it, so everyone you hear has an incredible passion for music.
I believe it was this track that was selected to be used as a teaching coriculum for composition at the sydney school of music. These guys are amazing and I've been a loyal fan since this album came out.
This is the first reaction to this song I’ve seen that really gives the bass playing such great credit and analysis, and I’ve seen many since I first got into this band a few years ago! Salute, sir.
Also, please don't change a thing, hearing intelligent analysis of music I've been listening to for a long time really lets me vicariously hear it for the first time again(ish). Finally watched your whole reaction to this song, man do you and I see music the same way, so awesome to listen to someone who thinks so much like I do!
Ne Obliviscarus has been one of my favorites recently, and I really enjoyed rediscovering them through this video! I would recommend "Devour Me, Colossus (Part 1): Black Holes" as my absolute favorite track of theirs, but I also love anything off of their album 'Urn'!
The section between 5:15 and 8:15 in the song is quite possibly my all time favourite musical passage, absolute perfection. the reason you don't hear the violin at the end of the song is because the violinist is also the clean vocalist, so you don't hear both happening at the same time in most of their songs
The thing with solos, in the newer metal sub-genres, comes with the fact that these bands tried to bring something new to the table, getting more influences, in terms of message and attitude, from hip-hop and rap, electronic music, sometimes going back to the roots of punk. Most of these bands started from scratch from a basement, as actual and true underground bands, you now basically see teenagers killing it on their instruments, being all downtune and aggressive, so I think some bands use this excuse that solos are a thing of the past, "grandpa's guitar". As a guitar player in a band, I can also confirm that the dynamics in metal bands doesn't always allow for the group to get to the next level where you can refine your compositions, sometimes there are egos, sometimes people are lazy and so on. We sometimes spend more time arguing than doing meaningful work. But as the "new" metal scene grew and became more mature, solos started making their way back into music, being performed by by increasingly skilled and virtuoso guitar players. And they seem to take it to a whole new level, no more old-time shredding in the style of the great hair-metal guys (Yngwie Malmsteen, Paul Gilbert, Vinnie Moore, Satriani, and the list goes on), but something which is either derivative from these roots, sometimes completely new approaches, sometimes both. Look for Tosin Abasi and his band Animals as Leaders for some truly revolutionary approach to modern metal. So yeah, solos are good, whoever says they are lame, can piss off.
Another band that is really awesome that people normally dont know is "Be'Lakor", I think you should give them a chance, their song "Countless Skies" its a masterpiece and every album is amazing, even their first that the sound design isnt the best.
The clean vocalist is named Tim charles, he's also the violinist, the screaming vocalist writes a lot of the music for the band and was the primary key in forming the band.
I'm SOOO glad that you reviewed this tune. It's a masterpiece. I loved it so much when it came out, that I did a little research on it, and it turns out that they actually use this in a composition class at the Australian Conservatorium of Music. Amazing tune!
you have become one of my favorite youtube reaction channels. You have the knowledge to really understand and appreciate metal. Please continue down this Rabbit hole of Metal. From someone who has spent 35 years in this rabbit hole, you have no clue how vast it is and how much undiscovered Musical art exists in this world.
Generally in metal every genre is allowed solos. It's just that there are so many different genres, that solos are usually limited to a certain style or otherwise the band would be categorised in a different genre. As an example if your playing fast ascending and descending licks in a Doom metal band on a regular basis you probably wouldn't be categorised as a Doom metal metal band but more likely as a Technical Doom Metal or Progressive Doom Metal Band.
There is definitely no yes or not anserw, but rather what is the purpose of the solo i would say. Some genres like to keep them as rare as possbile either focusing on the rythic aspect or overall mood of the music, others use it as a way to give small accents, and others go balls in on technical (or some could even call it show off) stuff. As fo Ne Obliviescaris they can be somewhat classified as a progressive metal bad which has only one rule of "there are no rules".
I can definitely relate. I felt exhausted after I listened to this song the first time and not because it wasn't enjoyable it was just A LOT to process.
In most traditional metal genres there's usually one or two solos per song, sometimes more if it's a particularly melodic genre (power, progressive, the symphonic genres, etc.), or if it's a long track. Metalcore, on the other hand, generally swap them in favor of breakdowns, although there's bands that incorporate solos as well. Great reaction, by the way. This band is absolutely brilliant. :) Oh, and check out their live version of this song sometimes, it's just as great as the studio version.
Also to answer your question yes: Most metal players use just a combination of noise gates and palm muting technique. It's one of the first things any metal guitarist learns and practice the most when it comes to metal rhythm guitar: Guitar players practice palm muting tremolo picking, drum players practice double kicks and singers either really high notes or screaming.
You're not wrong about the bass, when I've seen NeO live, the bass player is my favourite guy to watch for big chunks of it. They are all incredible of course. Wherever you look on the stage, everybody is doing something crazy talented.
The only criticism I can personally make of it is that it is the only point in Citadel I was able to temporarily pick my jaw off the floor. On its own its a masterpiece but when placed between Painters and Devour Me, Colossus it gets overshadowed. If these guys can write a bad song they haven't shown it yet.
Oh wow! No one ever reacts to these guys! They are great. My husband’s band, Anabasis, actually got to direct slot open for these guys on their US tour for their 2017 album in Syracuse, NY. Was a great little show in the tour. And yes they are that good live🤯
The thing about this song that impresses me the most is how cleverly they use the base to carry the song from the acoustic sound of the intro to the electric sound of the rest of the song. That transition of style is seamless and I think that only works because the bass is very prominent in that part and forms a solid foundation upon which the rest of the band can shift about without making the song feel unstable if that makes sense. Also: if you are into interesting arrangements, Folk/pagan-metal might be something for you: bands like Eluveitie have a huge number of different instruments ranging from hurdy gurdy, flute and bag-pipes to multiple vocalists and electrical guitars.
Man! That was amazing! Thanks for doing this! Just early I asked for it, thanks for reading the comments man! About what you asked: It depends on the sub-genre. This is Progressive Melodic Death Metal, it's pretty normal to have solos. In sub genres like metalcore (mostly deathcore), it's normal not to have solos, but there are bands that do them in a couple songs. The thing with metal is that it's sub-gernres are vast and sometimes extremely similar and the purist get angry when you confuse them. But don't pay attention to those pricks, you'll definetly see them around here so don't pay too much attention to them, they can get very rude. I would also like to recommend some death-core. A song called: Reing of Darkness by Thy Art Is Murder. You are going to be blown away by the drumming and the vocals.
Being an engineer, I think you can really appreciate TesseracT - Hexes. Amazing mix and sound engineering, technical music but with the technicality a bit less at the forefront. Good réactions man. You really know your things and pick up on the less obvious things in a mix like the bass in this one! Much appreciated!
Geebz, if you check out the live version of this song, you’ll see that the percussive 32nd note riff is indeed insanely tight sounding by way of palm muting and talent, but there is almost certainly a heavy handed noise gate at play as well (see the Axe-FX in the guitar racks and you know this is done very simply). In studio, a noise gate may be applied, but there is also a high probability that modern editing techniques are at play - heavy manual clipping that used to be done with an exacto knife is now done bar by bar in digital. And it makes good sense given the absurd amount of sound being made, and how clear the end result must be to be intelligible. Great video!
@@KingSaintClair probably not. To play this kinda double bass you have to be really relaxed. It might seem counter-intuitive, but relaxed is the way to go fast. He's letting the spring of the bass pedal and the rebound from the head do most of the work, his ankle just controls that sweet spot of rebound. Same with the hands, its oddly meditative to play death metal drums.
This is my favorite piece of music (song) ever created no doubt. First time i heard this i listened to it multiple times a day for about half a year im not kidding.
I LOVE when I see producers/teachers reacting to music, specially when it comes to prog music, it´s quite an unique experience to watch how they laugh at crazy or unexpected stuff, love you all who make these videos. Greetings from Mexico!
Easiest like and sub ive ever dispensed. I really, thoroughly enjoy your attention to the details of this piece. You should watch their live play of this song! Its INSANE! They are just as good as they are in the studio.
Wish you had watched the live video! They are amazing! ( Edit) You were talking about musicianship and sustainability. The live version, it was song they played to close out the set, and nailed it!
This album belongs in a museum of what mankind can achieve. When it came out, I was blown away and listened to it non stop for weeks. Its still my fav Neo album. Other records that got put that year, 2012 that are really good are Atoma, skylight and Borknagar, Urd. You should look those up and see if you find anything tasty to your liking.
Your breakdown of the violin playing in the beginning made me sub. I usually HATE these types of channels, but yeah, could tell you were the right critic before 5 minutes even elapsed.
The rule is: you do what fits the song. E.g. with a band like TesseracT which writes music largely around a groove and ambience you don't generally do solos. With a band like this one, which writes largely around massive-sounding technical, intricate pieces you do generally get solos. The nice thing about metal (once you get past the "mainstream" of it) is you get really solid musicians both in terms of their ability to write things that fit well together and their ability to play their instruments at a very high level which you can clearly see if you check out some of them, like Teemu, the guitarist from Wintersun, demonstrating how to play solos and other parts of their songs (Winter Madness solo). Oh, by the way, no metalcore here, this is metal.
Man I can't say how much I'm enjoying watching you discover this style of music. You've got some awesome insight with your background, and it's so obvious that you're genuinely enjoying the music. Keep it up brother
The thing with those Palm mutes is simply that it is NOT everything on 11. For a tight sound you need to dial back the gain, have an amp that is designed to be tight or put a tube screamer/eq in front of it to tighten up the lowend. There is no way to get it that tight with gain up to 11. It's pretty much a noobtrap, something beginners do and then wonder why their sound is just noise 😁
14:42 You don't really need maxed out distortion for that kind of sound, you need to boost / scoop the right frequencies and, as far as i've tested, put an overdrive pedal before the amp's head for extra tightness. Boosting somewhere between 1.2 and 2.0 khz would give you that extra clarity on syncopated / fast palm muted riffs like that. Holding a bit between 200 and 500hz would help clear out the muddyness and completely cutting 50hz downwards with an high pass filter could also help. In the end, it all depends on your equipment and which frequencies are lacking or high from the source. Noise gate could be necessary, but muting correctly with both hands is mandatory, as far as i know, that riff is played with an open A string.
found your videos a few days ago and i've been enjoying your reactions, unlike most reaction channels your analysis is interesting and gives me a reason to watch the reaction instead of just listening to the track on its own. keep it up man! my recommendation for a reaction: Wintersun the band is phenomenal and has a lot of amazing songs to react to, and i really can't pick one to suggest so i'd say make your pick based on what song title captures your interest first. i guarantee you'll love their music and likely do a reaction to more than one song.
Great reaction. Clean singer is the violin player and has studied violin at university. He composes and arranges most of the music. Harsh vocalist, Xen, is just phenomanal and has two other side projects, Omega Infinity and Antiqva. Their music is regarded as Extreme Progressive Death Metal. If you have a look you can find this track, live on tour. We make good music down under. On another note - Please react to Ne Obliviscaris - Intra Venus.
So glad to see you react to this song. Fucking love Ne Obliviscaris. Got to see them live when they came to the US some years back. Masterful musicians. Love everything they do. You should check out more of their stuff. Also highly recommend Wintersun - Sons of Winter And Stars (live @ Sonic Pump Studios) for another epic masterpiece.
BASS-ICS!!! loved that pun, no shame! metal is becoming more accepting of breaking down the barriers that exist as the current paradigm that is metal, at least prog metal does. having a solo in metal seems to just be serving the music rather than showboating the skills of the guitarist (with obvious exceptions). absolutely LOVE your reactions/content man. plssss keep going and dont let those coppers get ya ;)
Hey man, love the videos! Great choice of music to react to. Never heard of these guys, but I am now a Ne Obliviscaris fan :) Edit: was anybody else dissapointed it turned out to be a folk metal song? I'm a metal head, but I really enjoyed the composition before the metal dropped...
I would recommend 3 songs that in my opinion are the greatest journeys in the metal world apart from this song of course! Aviations-outliers Periphery-reptile Obscura-sermon of the seventh sun To clarify some subgenres and questions, metalcore is a mix of traditional metal and hardcore punk, you will usually find a “breakdown” which is just the hook or part of the song where everything slows down and gets heavier. Deathcore is like metalcore but it has influences of death metal. Ne oblivisicaris is a progressive death metal band, which is probably the most complex subgenre in the entire metal genre! And your question about solos, i would say most metalcore bands do have solos but they don’t over use that specific cliche, they use breakdowns as the signature cliche. As for any other subgenre of metal, solos are a huge part of them and they create a whole different wave of energy! If you have any questions or want examples please by all means ask me and i will try and help you out! I have been studying these subgenres in depth for the last 3-4 years and i love it when people with an open mind such as yourself embrace the musicianship even though it may not be your favourite thing in the world, but be ware that once you get hooked you get sucked into the rabbit hole! Keep up the amazing work!
Good to see that an intelligent and musically knowledgeable ‘reactor’ brings with him intelligent and musically knowledgable listeners and their comments.
You gotta check out animals as leaders! As a composer you would love their stuff. I recommend On Impulse, The Brain Dance, or Really anything from their discography
I watched them live in Memphis TN USA in a 500 person venue so I was super close to the stage. They sound this good and tight live. I got to speak with them afterward. Classy guys.
You picked a gem with this one. Also when your talk about the tightness of the 32s its def the musicianship although I dont doubt the engineer and mix play their part. If youd like to see some of the technique that can lent to that tightness I'd suggest checking out something by Tosin Abasi and his band Animals as Leaders.
I couldn't sleep last night and I stayed up til 4 watching your videos. I really find them so damn interesting, your perspective on music is great. I love it! Keep up the good work mate!
I've been following for a few days for now and I appreciate the input that you provides on all of your videos. But for me, this is the video that summarise my subscription to your channel. I haven't even finish the video but I always love when anyone "decompose" one of my favorite bands, let alone someone like you. Keep up the great work and sorry if I misspelled something. (not a native English speaker)
Cool reaction. Your insights are interesting. I've listened to this song many, many times as I love the band. However, I've never noticed some of those really subtle bass riffs before. Your comment helped me hear that detail for the first time. Thank you! BTW, be careful about mixing metal and metalcore. They are two fairly different things. And while metalcore is a subgenre of metal, it's kind of a different beast. Many people I know lean toward one or the other, and don't like the opposite one.
I love that you got to this one. I was going to suggest it, but you already got to it. Most of the Ne Obliviscaris guys are in an instrumental metal band called Vipassi. I would recommend the track Benzaiten if you want to check them out too - great stuff.
One of my favorite bands and in my eyes one of the most inventive and musically talented bands ever. I recommend either Eyrie or Libera Pt. 1: Saturnine Spheres off of their album Urn. The singing and storytelling is absolutely phenomenal. Especially Eyrie, I’ve nearly teared up listening to it.
Thrilled you reacted to this! You should give the live version a listen/watch on your own time. I have really been enjoying your reactions and analysis. Definitely give Periphery, Katatonia, and Tesseract a listen.
In regards to the question about guitar solos: its entirely sub-genre dependent. The types of Metal Music I tend to listen to frequently feature solos, if not on every track, on most tracks. Personally, as a die-hard metal fan, the solo is a chance for our favorite guitarists to stand out and show off. All while absolutely rocking our ears off. Really enjoying this reaction series. I'm learning a ton about composition and music in general.
I'm a keyboardist but I also play the guitar. I love Progressive Death Metal in general so I play both instrument for composing purposes with my group. Those 32nd note are amazing and controlled. It's just a good amount of palm muting skill. Lay your index finger on the first fret and your pinky on the 4th, the palm mute those chopped 32nd. It's possible becouse it's an open string riff. Other bands and geners do that in post production. Hope I've helped
Since you are a huge fan of drumming you need to hear trivium's drummer Alex Bent! He has full live playthroughs of the bands second to last album. Specifically the songs Betrayer and Beyond Oblivion.
As a, somewhat, metalhead I have to say I almost always just hear the vocals as just another instrument. I have no idea what the vast majority of songs I listen too are even about. I'm sure I'm not the only one.
I'm full metalhead and I agree bud!!! 😁
Yep I am the same way. Even with clean vocals in metal songs I don't hear the vocals often unless I hear a phrase that stands out to me.
I used to be like that. But when I started reading lyrics I never went back. Metal songs with good lyrics go up another level for me. I also discovered that some songs I liked were actually not as good as I thought once I read the lyrics.
I'd say there are bands where they use the vocals like another instrument just to add some extra texture like Shylmagoghnar or for the vocals to be the main star like Angelmaker. It really depends on the band
@@swankykoala4836 I agree with that, but I still would usually have no idea what the song is about. I just generally don't care enough to really listen to the meaning.
The drummer actually quit a really high paying job to pursue a career as a drummer. So you know the guy is motivated beyond belief.
Lol what was he doing?
@@MetalliBucket He was making $150,000 a year as a train driver.
@Harja :D Locomotive engineers in Australia generally get paid substantially more than they do in the US or anywhere else, really.
I'm happy he did. We wouldn't have this music otherwise. Respect.
Dan Presland is a beast!
I can confirm this song is incredibly faithfully reproduced live. It’s absolutely stunning.
The violinist, Tim Charles, is the clean singer, too.
The harsh vocalist, Xenoyr, writes the lyrics and created the artwork you saw, too.
They play like this, live, too, no difference in quality at all. I have seen them perform this song 11 times and it's always flawless. 🖤
Their live version is just as incredible.
2 guitarists. 2 vocalists. The clean vocalist is also the violinist. And the growling vocalist is the primary composer. And yes, the drummer is killing it the whole time. On a 2nd or 3rd listen do the live in Denver video to SEE the insane level of musicianship.
This is my first experience with this band, and I ENTHUSIASTICALLY agree. I will absolutely watch you react to this song again with the live version; I want to see your face when you witness what I just saw. Insane musicianship indeed! Here's the link (It's pro shot, too)-> th-cam.com/video/rNuVdsx7qJY/w-d-xo.html
(omg, they out-One'd One.... Lars who?)
Had no idea the harsh vocalist was the primary composer too, that's insane! Always assumed it would've been one of the instrumentalists, since they're all so bloody talented.
Tim Charles, violin and clean vocals, cheerful.
Xenoyr, harsh vocals and goth vampire.
The contrasts between these 2 is amazing on multiple levels.
The growling vocalist (Xenoyr) isn't the primary composer iirc. He is the one who writes all the lyrics and does all the artwork though, and I believe has directed some of their music videos. But each musician in the band composes their own parts, and the clean singer composes most of his own vocal lines, just not the lyrics for them.
@@silverkyrie4714 is this from an interview?
I read all the comments looking for mentions that this song is included in a teaching curriculum at the Sydney Conservatorium of Music, one of Australia’s most prestigious classical Conservatories. The song will undergo a compositional analysis by Professor Matthew Hindson. :)
If you copy everything from "teaching" above you'll find the article about it.
Usually someone (or several people lol) mention this in the comments so I thought I'd keep the tradition going. I bet someone else has done it while I type this out haha. Pretty cool story though, and since you're a composer yourself... well you get the idea.
i had the privilege of meeting the band backstage after a concert in toronto (they were touring with Wintersun and Sarah Longfield, who i also met) and asking about that. they seemed oblivious to the fact. either they really were and it was a nice moment finding out, or they were pretending to be oblivious to be humble about it.
I see this get thrown around quite often as well. It may sound like the highest honors but it isn’t actually that big of a deal. In conservatories we study everything. I’ve even analyzed that cheesy Halloween song, “the monster mash.” It is definitely cool that the song is being analyzed at the collegiate level, but college music majors will study hundreds of pieces by the time they are done with their bachelors.
@@LightBringer666 I remember in an interview they said they didn't know there music was being studied at Sydney conservatorium of music until a fan mentioned it to them.
@@billybobthekidiswack damn... so it could have been me huh? nice!
oh, I saw a couple of everything in music appreciation, I heard some horrible s there my friend.
There's only 1 rule on metal: there are no rules. And it's not just a small jest there's so much diversity in metal as a genre that you can pretty much find bands that break almost any preconceived notion and only have a few common denominators when it comes to tracing back influences but that's about it.
Seconded. Genres are more of a general idea of what youre going to get for each band in that section, but there are no set 'rules' and experimentation is pretty much always welcomed unless you find some elitist pricks
@@KarRuptAssassin Completely agree with these guys. There are some pretentious elitists out there who define their own arbitrary rules as to how things should be, within their narrow little parameters. But honestly, if it works musically then it can be included in metal. There's really no restriction at all. Innovation is how metal grows.
And anyone saying otherwise is a gatekeeping elitist
Been a metalhead for 30 something years and definitely agree with all of you! So many people get caught up in the genre debate and loose focus on what the fuck metal is all about, awesome music and awesome people (mostly) 😅 yeah just like Karupt said, same for me, genres are just more if a way to sort of describe a band to someone...otherwise all you'd ever say is "oh yeah you should check out "insert band here" they sound sorta...badass....and yeah and also listen to "band" they sound more like...badass...." 🤣
@@weedsmokinmetalhead As a metalhead nearly as long as you, I'd just like to add that it's more than 'getting caught up in the genre debate' as Metal by and large has one of the most toxic communities I've ever been a part of. Some absolutely amazing people out there, but to this day it baffles me how people who love a genre of music generally regarded by most of the world as "just noise' can be so close minded in their own views.
Slowly yet surely the roads lead to Opeth (Baying of the Hounds)
Yeah I'm waiting for that too!
But everyone does that one. It's great, but I wish people would make more varied recommendations. For example I could suggest Forest of October by Opeth.
@@Lleanlleawrg It's just that Baying of the Hounds is the perfect introduction to the band. It kicks ass and is as edgy as f**k but also has haunting beauty and instant hooks galore. The first time I heard it I was thinking "this is the best music I've ever heard!" and has remained so. Hessian Peel would be my next favourite track. I do love Forest of October though for sure.
@@Lleanlleawrg They do it's true, but I think the decomposer would do it better!
I'd like to see many others too though. Windowpain, Eternal Rains Will Come, Heart In Hand to name a few that haven't had the love they deserve.
I'd be happy with Blackwater Park, Face of Melinda and In My Time of Need.
It’s mostly (99.9%) in the muting technique of the guitarist. We spend a lot of practice time making sure no string noise is happening where we don’t want it.
Are you two hand muting?
The most precise palm muting ive ever heard 🔥🔥🔥
@@KeyOfGeebz In a sense. The actual quality of the sound is produced with the picking hand, by laying the side of the palm across the strings at the bridge of the guitar. (Palm muting)
The flavour of the notes are then done with muting techniques on the fretting hand.
@@KeyOfGeebz I try to mute with everything I have haha. Noise gates are pretty ubiquitous, but they are typically set as low as possible so it doesn't prematurely cut off any notes. They are mostly used to reduce hiss and control feedback. Though some bands seem to have pretty extreme noise gate settings. One other thing to consider... often times these heavy tones aren't as overdriven as you might think. Double/quad tracking, the bass tone, and the mix contributes to perceived distortion.
@@KeyOfGeebz It's 2-hand muting and absolutely no reverb. Reverb is the bane of those kind of 'machine gun' 16th-note riffs. If you know Metallica's song "One", the outro riff, it uses the same thing - and Metallica's producers always insisted on No Reverb for their earlier albums.
One of the compositional masterpieces of our time imo
I learned from The Charismatic Voice’s reaction to this song that it’s studied and analyzed by students at Sydney’s Conservatorium of Music, yours is an opinion shared by many
Forget Not by Ne Obliviscaris is another gem ... de Composer's delight!
Solos really depend on sub genre or the general "scene" that music comes from. A lot of the more metalcore and deathcore guys don't have solos just coming from the hardcore punk their genre was influenced by. Most of the others coming from thrash, like death metal, or prog, like progressive metal and djent will have solos in abundance. Some really notable examples would be Necrophagist, Meshuggah, The Faceless. Regarding the palm muted tone, its a combination of gates, generally active pickups, and very practiced muting technique in both hands (left hand will typically "slap" the fretboard at the end of each grouping, while the heel or palm of the right hand mutes the string). Chops are sort of a prerequisite for most of this sort of music, from everyone; and theres not much money in it, so everyone you hear has an incredible passion for music.
Thanks - i really appreciate your sharing! 🤙
I was going to comment "as a musician..." but you, my friend, nailed everything I had to say. kudos
same here friend. Been playing death metal drums about 10 years now, currently play with a tech death band.
React to Wintersun - "Sons of winter and stars" or "Time"
Dude yes! The live studio one's. You absolutely HAVE to.
Please, the remastered studio session of Sons of Winter and Stars, it's mind-blowing
Please listen to Rivers of Nihil-Where Only Owls Know My Name!
Oh I can't support this sugestion enough! IMHO one of the future metal torch holders, crazy underated band, they are one of my favourite metal bands!
Seconded! Oh sweet he already has
He did it!
I believe it was this track that was selected to be used as a teaching coriculum for composition at the sydney school of music. These guys are amazing and I've been a loyal fan since this album came out.
This is the first reaction to this song I’ve seen that really gives the bass playing such great credit and analysis, and I’ve seen many since I first got into this band a few years ago! Salute, sir.
Thanks Scott! 🤙
and they changed the guy.
@@dontbothertoreply9755 I know right? Unforgiveable.
Also, please don't change a thing, hearing intelligent analysis of music I've been listening to for a long time really lets me vicariously hear it for the first time again(ish). Finally watched your whole reaction to this song, man do you and I see music the same way, so awesome to listen to someone who thinks so much like I do!
Ne Obliviscarus has been one of my favorites recently, and I really enjoyed rediscovering them through this video! I would recommend "Devour Me, Colossus (Part 1): Black Holes" as my absolute favorite track of theirs, but I also love anything off of their album 'Urn'!
The section between 5:15 and 8:15 in the song is quite possibly my all time favourite musical passage, absolute perfection. the reason you don't hear the violin at the end of the song is because the violinist is also the clean vocalist, so you don't hear both happening at the same time in most of their songs
The thing with solos, in the newer metal sub-genres, comes with the fact that these bands tried to bring something new to the table, getting more influences, in terms of message and attitude, from hip-hop and rap, electronic music, sometimes going back to the roots of punk. Most of these bands started from scratch from a basement, as actual and true underground bands, you now basically see teenagers killing it on their instruments, being all downtune and aggressive, so I think some bands use this excuse that solos are a thing of the past, "grandpa's guitar".
As a guitar player in a band, I can also confirm that the dynamics in metal bands doesn't always allow for the group to get to the next level where you can refine your compositions, sometimes there are egos, sometimes people are lazy and so on. We sometimes spend more time arguing than doing meaningful work.
But as the "new" metal scene grew and became more mature, solos started making their way back into music, being performed by by increasingly skilled and virtuoso guitar players. And they seem to take it to a whole new level, no more old-time shredding in the style of the great hair-metal guys (Yngwie Malmsteen, Paul Gilbert, Vinnie Moore, Satriani, and the list goes on), but something which is either derivative from these roots, sometimes completely new approaches, sometimes both. Look for Tosin Abasi and his band Animals as Leaders for some truly revolutionary approach to modern metal.
So yeah, solos are good, whoever says they are lame, can piss off.
Another band that is really awesome that people normally dont know is "Be'Lakor", I think you should give them a chance, their song "Countless Skies" its a masterpiece and every album is amazing, even their first that the sound design isnt the best.
One of my favorites. One of the best melodeth bands of all time!
Sad I can't like more than once!
I'd personally go with The Desolation of Ares, but anything would be solid.
Solidarity brother. The new album should be upon us soon
Love Be'Lakor, if you like them for sure check out the album Cruse of the Red River by Barren Earth, its a masterpiece.
The clean vocalist is named Tim charles, he's also the violinist, the screaming vocalist writes a lot of the music for the band and was the primary key in forming the band.
I'm SOOO glad that you reviewed this tune. It's a masterpiece. I loved it so much when it came out, that I did a little research on it, and it turns out that they actually use this in a composition class at the Australian Conservatorium of Music. Amazing tune!
you have become one of my favorite youtube reaction channels. You have the knowledge to really understand and appreciate metal. Please continue down this Rabbit hole of Metal. From someone who has spent 35 years in this rabbit hole, you have no clue how vast it is and how much undiscovered Musical art exists in this world.
This song is just TOTALLY amazing! really! It's such a masterpiece! I saw them live once and just thinking about it gives me goosebumps
Rivers of Nihil- The Silent Life!! Man you will LOVE THIS TRACK
That or Where Only Owls Know My Name. He just needs to hear both, hah.
Yeahh that's a good pick, love me some Rivers
@@thomasbriggs6667 just not with the video! I like the video but i hate it for reactions
would love to see him check out subtle changes aswell. wished that more people would react to that aswell
@@ZuccAF God yes. Subtle Change is a fucking masterpiece. Some of the best prog metal ever written.
The “solo rule”: depends on who you ask and what they listen to.
Maybe some Leprous sometime? Different than NeO, but still great.
Yes please, Leprous is incredible
"I listen to the singer or singers as an instrument" This is how I have always listened to music. Love your interpretations. Keep riding the waves 🌊
Generally in metal every genre is allowed solos.
It's just that there are so many different genres, that solos are usually limited to a certain style or otherwise the band would be categorised in a different genre.
As an example if your playing fast ascending and descending licks in a Doom metal band on a regular basis you probably wouldn't be categorised as a Doom metal metal band but more likely as a Technical Doom Metal or Progressive Doom Metal Band.
There is definitely no yes or not anserw, but rather what is the purpose of the solo i would say.
Some genres like to keep them as rare as possbile either focusing on the rythic aspect or overall mood of the music, others use it as a way to give small accents, and others go balls in on technical (or some could even call it show off) stuff.
As fo Ne Obliviescaris they can be somewhat classified as a progressive metal bad which has only one rule of "there are no rules".
I am thinking grind core is the only one with 0 solos
@@makjak111 check out Gridlink if you haven't already. Or any band that Takafumi Matsuraba has played with in general
I can definitely relate. I felt exhausted after I listened to this song the first time and not because it wasn't enjoyable it was just A LOT to process.
In most traditional metal genres there's usually one or two solos per song, sometimes more if it's a particularly melodic genre (power, progressive, the symphonic genres, etc.), or if it's a long track. Metalcore, on the other hand, generally swap them in favor of breakdowns, although there's bands that incorporate solos as well.
Great reaction, by the way. This band is absolutely brilliant. :) Oh, and check out their live version of this song sometimes, it's just as great as the studio version.
You should also do the live version of this song! Dan Presland is my favorite drummer. Very underrated.
Never clicked a video so fast. This is gonna be awesome!
Also to answer your question yes: Most metal players use just a combination of noise gates and palm muting technique. It's one of the first things any metal guitarist learns and practice the most when it comes to metal rhythm guitar: Guitar players practice palm muting tremolo picking, drum players practice double kicks and singers either really high notes or screaming.
You're not wrong about the bass, when I've seen NeO live, the bass player is my favourite guy to watch for big chunks of it. They are all incredible of course. Wherever you look on the stage, everybody is doing something crazy talented.
You should check out the live video of Heilung performing Krigsgaldr. That will blow you away.
That's for sure. He'll never expect somethin' like that :D
Oh ya
I love everything they do.
I'd be interesting to see what Geebz makes of it from a composer's viewpoint, given that it feels very organic, tribal, and deceptively simple.
Yee
The drummer Dan Presland, has a playthrough video of this on his channel ;) Absolutely worth checking out.
Time to revisit these guys. Pyrrhic is so very underrated as a tune.
The buildup and the climax in that song are incredible
The only criticism I can personally make of it is that it is the only point in Citadel I was able to temporarily pick my jaw off the floor. On its own its a masterpiece but when placed between Painters and Devour Me, Colossus it gets overshadowed. If these guys can write a bad song they haven't shown it yet.
Oh wow! No one ever reacts to these guys! They are great. My husband’s band, Anabasis, actually got to direct slot open for these guys on their US tour for their 2017 album in Syracuse, NY. Was a great little show in the tour. And yes they are that good live🤯
I'll never forget the first time I heard this song. My face is still melting. What a masterpiece.
The thing about this song that impresses me the most is how cleverly they use the base to carry the song from the acoustic sound of the intro to the electric sound of the rest of the song. That transition of style is seamless and I think that only works because the bass is very prominent in that part and forms a solid foundation upon which the rest of the band can shift about without making the song feel unstable if that makes sense.
Also: if you are into interesting arrangements, Folk/pagan-metal might be something for you: bands like Eluveitie have a huge number of different instruments ranging from hurdy gurdy, flute and bag-pipes to multiple vocalists and electrical guitars.
Man! That was amazing! Thanks for doing this!
Just early I asked for it, thanks for reading the comments man!
About what you asked:
It depends on the sub-genre. This is Progressive Melodic Death Metal, it's pretty normal to have solos.
In sub genres like metalcore (mostly deathcore), it's normal not to have solos, but there are bands that do them in a couple songs.
The thing with metal is that it's sub-gernres are vast and sometimes extremely similar and the purist get angry when you confuse them. But don't pay attention to those pricks, you'll definetly see them around here so don't pay too much attention to them, they can get very rude.
I would also like to recommend some death-core. A song called: Reing of Darkness by Thy Art Is Murder. You are going to be blown away by the drumming and the vocals.
These guys play all their live shows to the tee. It's perfect. Sounds just like the studio performance.
Being an engineer, I think you can really appreciate TesseracT - Hexes. Amazing mix and sound engineering, technical music but with the technicality a bit less at the forefront.
Good réactions man. You really know your things and pick up on the less obvious things in a mix like the bass in this one! Much appreciated!
+1 for Tesseract
*Hexes
@@jen.g. Dammit, you're right xD
Yes, Hexes please!
Geebz, if you check out the live version of this song, you’ll see that the percussive 32nd note riff is indeed insanely tight sounding by way of palm muting and talent, but there is almost certainly a heavy handed noise gate at play as well (see the Axe-FX in the guitar racks and you know this is done very simply). In studio, a noise gate may be applied, but there is also a high probability that modern editing techniques are at play - heavy manual clipping that used to be done with an exacto knife is now done bar by bar in digital. And it makes good sense given the absurd amount of sound being made, and how clear the end result must be to be intelligible. Great video!
My old friend Dan is the drummer in this band :)
Well... does his legs cramp up?
He's a killer drummer dude
@@KingSaintClair probably not. To play this kinda double bass you have to be really relaxed. It might seem counter-intuitive, but relaxed is the way to go fast. He's letting the spring of the bass pedal and the rebound from the head do most of the work, his ankle just controls that sweet spot of rebound. Same with the hands, its oddly meditative to play death metal drums.
Best song in Metal history, listened to it at least 500 times and it still gives me thrills.
This is my favorite piece of music (song) ever created no doubt. First time i heard this i listened to it multiple times a day for about half a year im not kidding.
I was SO EXCITED when I woke up this morning to see this in my feed.
Hope you enjoyed it! When I read that you were deployed I stopped what I was doing and went straight for it. THANK YOU for being there for me, us!🤙🤙
I LOVE when I see producers/teachers reacting to music, specially when it comes to prog music, it´s quite an unique experience to watch how they laugh at crazy or unexpected stuff, love you all who make these videos. Greetings from Mexico!
Easiest like and sub ive ever dispensed. I really, thoroughly enjoy your attention to the details of this piece. You should watch their live play of this song! Its INSANE! They are just as good as they are in the studio.
Wish you had watched the live video! They are amazing! ( Edit) You were talking about musicianship and sustainability. The live version, it was song they played to close out the set, and nailed it!
This song was the first i heard from the band. I was sold in the first 10 seconds
I literally cried when I saw them live.
This album belongs in a museum of what mankind can achieve. When it came out, I was blown away and listened to it non stop for weeks. Its still my fav Neo album.
Other records that got put that year, 2012 that are really good are Atoma, skylight and Borknagar, Urd. You should look those up and see if you find anything tasty to your liking.
My favorite Ne Obliviscaris song is Pyrrhic. The buildup towards the end is just mind blowing. You should check it out if you haven't already.
They played it live the other night and it sounded just as good. ❤🤯🙌 Thanks for your reaction and perspective!
Your breakdown of the violin playing in the beginning made me sub. I usually HATE these types of channels, but yeah, could tell you were the right critic before 5 minutes even elapsed.
In this order ;)
A perfect Circle (Maynard) - Judith
Tool - wings for Marie Pt1 + 10000 days (Wings Pt2) *listen to Pt1/2 together
Dude, yes! He would love 10000 days! As someone who doesn't initially look at the lyrics, the order might not matter
The live video shows the bass player so well he def deserves more credit
Vektor- recharging the void baby
Your gona loose your dentures on this one😉
seconded!
Oh yeah!
Great reaction mate, now do yourself a favour and watch the live in Colorado version to see them doing this live.
Agreed- I was really hoping it was the live version.
@@Drator6 me too
The rule is: you do what fits the song. E.g. with a band like TesseracT which writes music largely around a groove and ambience you don't generally do solos. With a band like this one, which writes largely around massive-sounding technical, intricate pieces you do generally get solos. The nice thing about metal (once you get past the "mainstream" of it) is you get really solid musicians both in terms of their ability to write things that fit well together and their ability to play their instruments at a very high level which you can clearly see if you check out some of them, like Teemu, the guitarist from Wintersun, demonstrating how to play solos and other parts of their songs (Winter Madness solo). Oh, by the way, no metalcore here, this is metal.
Man I can't say how much I'm enjoying watching you discover this style of music. You've got some awesome insight with your background, and it's so obvious that you're genuinely enjoying the music. Keep it up brother
The thing with those Palm mutes is simply that it is NOT everything on 11. For a tight sound you need to dial back the gain, have an amp that is designed to be tight or put a tube screamer/eq in front of it to tighten up the lowend. There is no way to get it that tight with gain up to 11. It's pretty much a noobtrap, something beginners do and then wonder why their sound is just noise 😁
14:42 You don't really need maxed out distortion for that kind of sound, you need to boost / scoop the right frequencies and, as far as i've tested, put an overdrive pedal before the amp's head for extra tightness. Boosting somewhere between 1.2 and 2.0 khz would give you that extra clarity on syncopated / fast palm muted riffs like that. Holding a bit between 200 and 500hz would help clear out the muddyness and completely cutting 50hz downwards with an high pass filter could also help. In the end, it all depends on your equipment and which frequencies are lacking or high from the source. Noise gate could be necessary, but muting correctly with both hands is mandatory, as far as i know, that riff is played with an open A string.
found your videos a few days ago and i've been enjoying your reactions, unlike most reaction channels your analysis is interesting and gives me a reason to watch the reaction instead of just listening to the track on its own. keep it up man!
my recommendation for a reaction: Wintersun
the band is phenomenal and has a lot of amazing songs to react to, and i really can't pick one to suggest so i'd say make your pick based on what song title captures your interest first. i guarantee you'll love their music and likely do a reaction to more than one song.
Great reaction.
Clean singer is the violin player and has studied violin at university. He composes and arranges most of the music.
Harsh vocalist, Xen, is just phenomanal and has two other side projects, Omega Infinity and Antiqva.
Their music is regarded as Extreme Progressive Death Metal.
If you have a look you can find this track, live on tour.
We make good music down under.
On another note - Please react to Ne Obliviscaris - Intra Venus.
Aw man! You definitely want to find live performances for some of these! So glad you chose this one - this is a beautiful track!!
So glad to see you react to this song. Fucking love Ne Obliviscaris. Got to see them live when they came to the US some years back. Masterful musicians. Love everything they do. You should check out more of their stuff. Also highly recommend Wintersun - Sons of Winter And Stars (live @ Sonic Pump Studios) for another epic masterpiece.
BASS-ICS!!! loved that pun, no shame!
metal is becoming more accepting of breaking down the barriers that exist as the current paradigm that is metal, at least prog metal does. having a solo in metal seems to just be serving the music rather than showboating the skills of the guitarist (with obvious exceptions).
absolutely LOVE your reactions/content man. plssss keep going and dont let those coppers get ya ;)
Twelve Foot Ninja - Coming For You
Oh that’s great, ta!
Immediately had to go and watch their live performance of this song, absolutely amazing. Great suggestion whoever picked this one!
Sirens in the background, "That's it, this is my last reaction!" Has me in tears.
Hey man, love the videos! Great choice of music to react to. Never heard of these guys, but I am now a Ne Obliviscaris fan :)
Edit: was anybody else dissapointed it turned out to be a folk metal song? I'm a metal head, but I really enjoyed the composition before the metal dropped...
Not only do I love the base, but I love the choise of mixing
I would recommend 3 songs that in my opinion are the greatest journeys in the metal world apart from this song of course! Aviations-outliers
Periphery-reptile
Obscura-sermon of the seventh sun
To clarify some subgenres and questions, metalcore is a mix of traditional metal and hardcore punk, you will usually find a “breakdown” which is just the hook or part of the song where everything slows down and gets heavier. Deathcore is like metalcore but it has influences of death metal. Ne oblivisicaris is a progressive death metal band, which is probably the most complex subgenre in the entire metal genre! And your question about solos, i would say most metalcore bands do have solos but they don’t over use that specific cliche, they use breakdowns as the signature cliche. As for any other subgenre of metal, solos are a huge part of them and they create a whole different wave of energy! If you have any questions or want examples please by all means ask me and i will try and help you out! I have been studying these subgenres in depth for the last 3-4 years and i love it when people with an open mind such as yourself embrace the musicianship even though it may not be your favourite thing in the world, but be ware that once you get hooked you get sucked into the rabbit hole! Keep up the amazing work!
Good to see that an intelligent and musically knowledgeable ‘reactor’ brings with him intelligent and musically knowledgable listeners and their comments.
Thanks Mike 🤙🤙
I don't know how I missed this video!! Incredible Aussie band and I enjoyed your reaction so much
I adore this band. You should check out the live in Colorado version.
Wow
Thanks for showing me this! Some really neat work here.
I totally get your feeling of riding through on a zipline haha, great analogy! I love this song
You gotta check out animals as leaders! As a composer you would love their stuff. I recommend On Impulse, The Brain Dance, or Really anything from their discography
Allegaeon - Threshold of Perception i think you'd appreciate! And I'd say there are no rules when it comes to music! Just enjoy it!
Yea, certain subgenres don't heavily rely on solos but they aren't unheard of
I watched them live in Memphis TN USA in a 500 person venue so I was super close to the stage. They sound this good and tight live. I got to speak with them afterward. Classy guys.
Portal of I - the best album of Ne Obliviscaris. Very talented band
You picked a gem with this one. Also when your talk about the tightness of the 32s its def the musicianship although I dont doubt the engineer and mix play their part. If youd like to see some of the technique that can lent to that tightness I'd suggest checking out something by Tosin Abasi and his band Animals as Leaders.
I would love it if you'd react to Nevermore - This Godless Endeavour. Warrel Dane such a unique sound to his voice. Very haunting, very beautiful.
I couldn't sleep last night and I stayed up til 4 watching your videos. I really find them so damn interesting, your perspective on music is great. I love it! Keep up the good work mate!
Thank you so much - Next cup of coffee is on me :))) 🤙
Yep those noisegates do help. Sometimes the engineers help out by quantizing/silencing stuff too, but that depends on the band.
I've been following for a few days for now and I appreciate the input that you provides on all of your videos. But for me, this is the video that summarise my subscription to your channel. I haven't even finish the video but I always love when anyone "decompose" one of my favorite bands, let alone someone like you.
Keep up the great work and sorry if I misspelled something. (not a native English speaker)
I have a fever and the only cure is more airbass!! 🤣🤙 This was an awesome find. Thanks, Geebz. Still here
Cool reaction. Your insights are interesting. I've listened to this song many, many times as I love the band. However, I've never noticed some of those really subtle bass riffs before. Your comment helped me hear that detail for the first time. Thank you!
BTW, be careful about mixing metal and metalcore. They are two fairly different things. And while metalcore is a subgenre of metal, it's kind of a different beast. Many people I know lean toward one or the other, and don't like the opposite one.
I love that you got to this one. I was going to suggest it, but you already got to it. Most of the Ne Obliviscaris guys are in an instrumental metal band called Vipassi. I would recommend the track Benzaiten if you want to check them out too - great stuff.
One of my favorite bands and in my eyes one of the most inventive and musically talented bands ever.
I recommend either Eyrie or Libera Pt. 1: Saturnine Spheres off of their album Urn. The singing and storytelling is absolutely phenomenal. Especially Eyrie, I’ve nearly teared up listening to it.
Thrilled you reacted to this! You should give the live version a listen/watch on your own time. I have really been enjoying your reactions and analysis. Definitely give Periphery, Katatonia, and Tesseract a listen.
In regards to the question about guitar solos: its entirely sub-genre dependent. The types of Metal Music I tend to listen to frequently feature solos, if not on every track, on most tracks. Personally, as a die-hard metal fan, the solo is a chance for our favorite guitarists to stand out and show off. All while absolutely rocking our ears off.
Really enjoying this reaction series. I'm learning a ton about composition and music in general.
I'm a keyboardist but I also play the guitar. I love Progressive Death Metal in general so I play both instrument for composing purposes with my group. Those 32nd note are amazing and controlled. It's just a good amount of palm muting skill. Lay your index finger on the first fret and your pinky on the 4th, the palm mute those chopped 32nd. It's possible becouse it's an open string riff. Other bands and geners do that in post production. Hope I've helped
Since you are a huge fan of drumming you need to hear trivium's drummer Alex Bent! He has full live playthroughs of the bands second to last album. Specifically the songs Betrayer and Beyond Oblivion.