Fraxinetum | When Muslims Ruled France | Al Muqaddimah
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The Andalusis introduced fine pine tar called goudron, a word derived from the Arabic qitran, with the same meaning. The Andalusis also taught the villagers medical skills and introduced both ceramic tiles and the tambourine to the area. Some French scholars believe the Andalusis of Fraxinet introduced the cultivation of buckwheat, a grain that has two names in modern French, blé noir ("black wheat") and blé sarrasin ("Saracen wheat").
Make a video about Indian invention claimed by Muslims as their own.
Why don't you hire someone to do the voice overs? Even the Arabic names are butchered. Al-Gáfiqi not Al-Gafígi
Al Muqaddimah bro still waiting for video on history of fatimid caliphate and how they arose to power to create seprate caliphate.
Well, I just listened for a minute and you can apologise for your Arabic as well. It's Ghaafiqi not Ghafeeqi
Wow, I was not aware of a Muslim "state" in southeastern France! Maybe because of its short lived existence.
And very nice message in the end! We always have to think that way. Bravo!
History is indeed much more complex than the usual 'us' vs 'them' paradigm, and surely has self interest always been a major factor and I dare to say, until the 20th century about the only factor, that really drove people into wars, raids, coupe d'etats, amongst any religion. The Calif/Emir of Al Andalus/Granada hiring or calling upon its Christian neighbours to fight off the Muslim invadors from Northern Africa is the same thing.
The 20th century is different though. The power play in the cold war, the ties between countries, the forming of nationstates, the increased awareness and importance of the ethnic background in the latter, the different socio-economic political movements, technological advancements in communications and weaponry, the enforced enlisting of people in armies, the end of colonialism, the global society/economy, the horrors of the first and second world wars... it all majorly changed the complexity of international powerplay.
Whilst I won't be alive to see that day, I really hope that someday we all could form one global confederative state and could see and respect eachother as neighbours and not as some stranger from a far away country.
One may dream...
It was more of an organised hub than a state
@@adamcom3015 that's why I put the term state in quotes.
Fady Al qaisy the region of Franxinetum was nothing. Nothing was gained. It was a fruitless invasion. The invaders only became wealthy because of the mercy of crown of Italy. And its relevance in history was minimal/outnumbered compared to Viking raiders.
There are a city in france called Rammatuelle , that originally came from Rahmatullah in the same area of this Muslim state!
@Anzara Arden
I'm presuming you've forgot it's name? Otherwise why would you be as ambiguous as that lol?
@Anzara Arden Exactly @anneeq008 :) Would you please name that city please??
@@anneeq008 Saas-Almagell.
Is it a village or a city?
True
This is exactly why I love studying history, to be baffled and perplexed about my own ignorance of the past events that makes the world we live in today
"Except Tamerlane, that guy is the worst."
Bayezid I would agree...
(R.I.P.)
An-Nasir Faraj would agree too
@Shaheen Ashfaq Well timur was a bloody barbarian who slaughtered millions of non-muslims and muslims.
Supposedly on Tamerlane’s tomb it “read whoever disturbs my rest will have unleashed a great calamity” and that when his coffin was removed from the tomb ww2 started and when he was finally buried ww2 ended.
@@alangervasis have you seen the letters from Bayezid to Timur? Bayezid messed with Timur a few times before Timur decided to attack.
@Shaheen Ashfaq He has probably because He almost destroyed ottomans.
As someone who has loved and read history his entire life- especially the histories of Central Asia; the growth of early to mid Islam; the Far East; Baltic/ Nordic/ Varangian/ Kievan Rus; Iberian and Mediterranean Islam; India and the Mughals-- this channel is simply the best in existence and never fails to provide exceptional, unbiased insights into historic eras that the modern world could sorely benefit from understanding, and perhaps sometimes emulating. Thank you for your deep scholarship.
Wow!! Never heard of Fraxinetum before.
Wonder WHY *coughs* (Western Education in History)
same here
@@chatterboxtaha6020 Their main identity was 'a raiding party'.They selelected the base for raiding.They have also looted churches.They have lived 100 years.Once if they had gained more number and power over time they would start slave raiding just as they were doing in christian territories in iberia.It was dangerous if the french didn't banish them.
@@raintree6206They lost because of a snitch they released with a ransom!
Great pronunciation man! I wonder why ;)
Never heard of Fraxinetum, even though I’m from the region. My great uncle lives in Fréjus which is the closest town to the fort.
As to how 20 people took over, my guess is that they invaded during lunch which takes 5-6 hours here in Provence.
I wonder the same thing. Whoever it was, they were very kind. :)
Also, that's how the British colonized India. They caught us during our afternoon post-lunch nap.
@@AlMuqaddimahYT It's understandable haha
@Mervin Freeden 3.0 Pakistan. But yeah, pretty much the same thing except for religion.
@@thenewcaliph766 actually most pakistanis have been living in that area for 2000 years and never considered themselves as Indians. They always viewed themselves as their ethnicities. Bolochi, Sindhi, Pashtun, Patan, e.t.c
@@thenewcaliph766 come on India (or South Asia) is bigger than the whole Europe with three tins the population. We are not definitely one, even in Pakistan we have blend of different people and only two things unite us, Islam and the Indus. Apart from Islam we also have that Northern identity in our minds and we consider ourselves much different than the heartland Indians (not even South Indians like to compare themselves with Hindi speakers). Point is that we're similar like Europeans are similar to each other.
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@@arminius6506 I have watched it’s videos they are great thanks
Historians- The Battle of Tours was the last notable thing Muslims did in France and stopped a Muslim state from being established
Fraxinetum- Am I a joke to you?
Trust me nobody known about this kingdom neither Europeans
Yes no body knew about Poitier until recently, it's a mediatic tool used to steer the public view for the last centuries only, actually the "hero" of this story was considered a traitor and killer nothing else
It's like the Emirate of Bari in mainland Italy. It was so short-lived that it ended up being a footnote in history.
@@adelking66 If it does become Arab, it will still look down on the Middle East for being generally regressive. The culture remains even if the people change, generally.
Yes
As a Swiss, this is fascinating and I have never heard of them
@@theresecoco1887 I thought as much. The talk about Switzerland gives it away.
There was no Switzerland at the time anyway.
If would take more than a lifetime to learn all of relevant history
@@theresecoco1887 salty
@@theresecoco1887 It actually existed, we have proofs of it from both Christian and Muslim sources.
@@theresecoco1887 Muslims made settlements in Northern Switzerland
7:28 The Balearic Islands are missing from your map
The Balearic islands are a conspiracy theory. They don't actually exist. Just like New Zealand.
American, asia, oceania, some parts of europe and most of africa is missing too 🌚
@@AlMuqaddimahYT I'm from Mallorca xd
Near Toulon, between Hyères and Giens, there is a beach called "l'Almanarre" which is a famous spot for kitesurf. I was told that the name almanarre means the lighthouse in Arabic. It probably comes from the time of Fraxinetum!
Interesting. Never heard of this place until today. Thanks for the video.
this channel is so underrated.. keep it going man dont give up !
I never knew anything about this. What a fascinating story! Well done sir!
Visited your channel after a long time. Had subscribed to it when it had only a few 100 subcribers. Glad to see it has grown Siyawish. Masha ALLAH. Stay Blessed.
Hey, thanks for your videos. I just discovered them. They're so well done and for some reason I'm really interested in Islamic history, even as a Westerner, so this channel is a gem in my eyes. Good work!
Wow always fun learning something new :), tis a grand video
I am so happy. You learned me something about southern France. I didn't know the extense of muslim raiding as well. In fact, this little state shuffle my ideas about this period of French middle-age quite a bit.
Look up the conquests of Anbasa Ibn Suhaym al-Kalbi in France. Especially, look up the battle of Autun in 725 AD.
4:51 Thats not a "Pro-Gamer move", thats just italians being italians
Yes! That's is so Italian! How did I miss that?!
An offer you can't refuse
Yes
Hugo a 'very italian' name of germanic origin
Arles a 'very italian' city in France at something like 300 km of distance from the italian border....
Ever since the conquest of Longobardia (name of italy in those days) by Carl the Great, most of the 'italian' kings were sovereigns of the franks, underlings of the rulers of the franks or their ally
Not to mention this period of italian history was also called the 'ducal anarchy' period, a period in which the dukes were completely independent and the title of king of Italy was just a honorary one
Ah yes, the Italians.
The only southern European people who effectively fended off Islamic advances on their lands.
@@markhorst94 "Charles" is of germanic origin too. But nobody deny Charlemagne was the king of France
Tying an ethnicity/culture to 10th Century kingdoms is a mistake. They were titles tied to a place where the king had it's center of power. Any land under the control of the King of Italy was "Italy".
Your Videos are pure Gold. Thank you. Jazakallahu khayran. I dont know where Else i can find this Kind of knowledge.. I know Only some few books, but nothing more.
Very interesting video. Can you tell me what software you use to edit videos? JazakAllah Khair.
siempre muy bueno y imformatico videos ... saludo por barcelona.
I had no idea this was a thing, thanks for sharing! As always, great job!
P.S: I had not idea you spoke French, which you seem to speak quite well.
I love your depth in this. Omar the Orient has already made a short video on this.
Hungarian nomads vs muslim warriors battling in a french town...
10th century Europe was really something else
Excellent work as usual mate!!
Really interesting stuff. Reminds me of the Umayyad conquest of the lower rhone river, and the long interaction Muslims have had with that region. Keep up the great content
Look at the conquests of Anbasa Ibn Suhaym al-Kalbi in France especially the battle of Autun in 725 AD and Sens etc.
Thanks, good knowledge of the historiography around Franxinetum. Learnt a little known chapter of medieval history.
Thank you for providing a new source of interest 👍
Ohh wow, this video only has 20 000 views? Should have many more. So much attention to detail and sources, and from what I can tell, very unbiased as well.
Never heard about this story before....tq for the information
Thanks for this, I didn't find many sources about fraxinetum, I wasn't even sure if it was a thing or just a remnant of arbonna left behind. To be fair I didn't look further into it cuz I was more interested in the early andalusian history.
Thanks again.
Super interesting! Thx ^^
Had never heard this before. Thanks for your time.
The Andalusis introduced fine pine tar called goudron, a word derived from the Arabic qitran, with the same meaning. The Andalusis also taught the villagers medical skills and introduced both ceramic tiles and the tambourine to the area. Some French scholars believe the Andalusis of Fraxinet introduced the cultivation of buckwheat, a grain that has two names in modern French, blé noir ("black wheat") and blé sarrasin ("Saracen wheat").
Just learned about Fraxinetum today, and now I see a video about it lol.
MashAllah keep the good work up.
Hey really appreciate your work, it is very informative! I was wondering if you had a list of sources used in this video? I am doing a project on a similar topic and would like to read into it more.
I love the diligence and nuance that you bring to each of these videos...
And every time you make me want to reinstall Medieval 2: Total War.
Very enjoyable video, I learned a lot. What were the primary sources? You said mainly christian so I assume monastic chronicles, but what were the others if they exist?
The new intro is dope
Great video thanks
The only complain I got about this otherwise amazing video is that the outro music was much more quiet than usual.
One thing people tend to forget is that Arabs and Berbers, despite being of different stock/languages/cultures, had cultures that glorified martial prowess and victory in battle. So it's no wonder that they conquered such a vast empire. The Arabs have a saying, "Me against my brother, me, and my brother against my cousin, me my brother and cousin against the stranger. So with earliest Islam making every Muslim their brother, and turning the non Muslim into the stranger, of course struggle will ensue.
Lovely work
Hello Al Muqaddimah thanks for this interesting video however can you cite the academic sources you have used
Very well explained, specially the ending.
Very well said at the end Al-Muqaddimah!
Hi, your video is really great but I was wondering if it was possible to get the sources you used for it please?
Excellent channel ALLAH bless you.
Thanks for this fascinating video. One picky point- I couldn't hear the 'r' in Provence, apart from that loved it, another reminder that Europe has more Muslim history than is generally acknowledged.
WTF!
This video is bruh moment, after bruh moment, after bruh moment.
Let me catch a breather FFS xD
Look at the battle of Autun in 725 AD by Anbasa Ibn Suhaym al-Kalbi in France. Also, the conquest of Sens etc.
Top video!
I wasnt aware that there was this much muslim control of Europe! Really fascinating
Look at the battle of Autun in 725 AD by Anbasa Ibn Suhaym al-Kalbi in France. Also, the conquest of Sens etc.
Love your work brother. Will you please make a documentary about the Mamluk Sultanate?
agree, very underrated for a country where some of the powerful individuals were ex-slaves and a woman
I wanted to ask you a question. How to you make these videos I mean do you animate them do you draw the maps or are you using some kind of website or app
Please tell us
👍 good video
'People don't want to know they might have Arab ancestry' - This cracked me up.
@@theresecoco1887 no not really arabs had a magnificent history and gulf country's (real arabs ) are some of the wealthiest and happiest country's in the world except for poor Yemen of course.
don't be a dick
@@theresecoco1887So according to your mighty opinion, you're saying that the 422 million or more Arabs of the world are garbage. Unfortunately for you, this only highlights your childish prejudice and lack of education, more than anything else.
@@theresecoco1887 more crying please my cup isn't full
Technically they'd have north african / andalusian ancestry as arabs were really a ruling minority in the region
Could you do a video on saints in Islam? Its something I've heard about but it is rarely discussed
Great info there, glad you make a Malay sultanate in Nusantara modern day Malaysia and Indonesia. Anyway good content
I had learned about some graves being identified as being Musilim graves for, among other things, being pointed towards Mecca in southern France. I had learned about the expulsions of al-Hakam of Cordoba. I did not know about Fraxinetum!!!
I also think the Musilims of Fraxinetum might be related to those that were expelled form Cordoba. Those people ended up settling in a lot of different places doing very disperate things trying to make a new home for themselfs.
Reality thanks man. I came to know about fraxinetum and a muslim kingdom in Switzerland just a couple of months before. It's really a delight for me😍
Lets be honest. You can't call a occupied Base for raids a "kingdom".
@@Larrypint Well, it was not just a base for raids. It was a sort of andalusian frontier province. They were involved with agriculture and mining at that place and they supplied timber and minerals to andalusia. They were also politically involved with other European kingdoms at that time. Yes they raided to keep the franks busy within their borders. Normally there was a peaceful coexistence of muslims and christians within their border.
@@ashikurrahman2960 normally peaceful coexistence? I hope you watch this channel a little longer or you start to read a little more critical historical scriptures.
Peace
@@Larrypint These guys ruled Provence for almost a century. Yes they raided the monasteries and churches but they didn't conduct massacre. They taxed local people didn’t kill them. They conducted most of their raids outside their border eg: in Switzerland or northern Italy. So that's quite a peaceful coexistence on medieval standards. If you compare them with crusaders or Vikings you'll see the difference
@@Larrypint Man yours is a sarcastic level of exaggeration. 1 million! Cone on man! The whole population of france was less than 5million at that time. Don't trust islamophobic propaganda shits. In comparison to the crusader kingdoms of middle east, they were far humane. And fraxinetum muslins were seen as holy warriors in the muslim world. You cam check the muslim sources on this topic to get a more clearer picture.
Very interesting. I wasn't aware of Fraxinetum. A reminder that between Christian and Muslim territory the borders were much fuzzier than we think today. Speaking of which, I'd love a video about Christian ruled territories in Anatolia and Syria under the Seljuqs, like Edessa before Baldwin takes over during the First Crusade. What was the relation between these kingdoms/principalities to the much more powerful Muslim rulers in the region?
Well said brother. Economics and self interest always trump religion. Especially when it comes to starve vs live. I enjoy your channel immensely.
Please tell me how you make your videos
Which Website do you use for making all these maps
Interesting, never heard of these informations
the first time I hear this :o , please a video about the battle of Toure
Also look up Anbasa ibn Suhaym al-Kalbi and the battle of Autun in 725 AD. Also, the conquest of Sens etc.
Now I'm a bit disappointed that Fraxinetum doesn't show up in ck2's 936 Iron Century start date. It looks to be 40+ years after the establishment of the fortress, yet there is not even the slightest mention of it in game. Certainly rather curious.
I had always thought that buckwheat in Italian i.e. sarceno grano was due to its colour compared to wheat.
it is very similar with some economic zone in the old world of south east asia, they had autonomies of small part area and very commonly a seaport, they have military forces too
Please make a video on salhuddin plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Please make a video on saladin
Once I started reading an Urdu novel about this, which was called 'Sa'eqa', but I thought it was an exaggeration and left it after thirty pages (it also mentioned the battle between Abd al-Rahman lll the Great and Ibn Hafsun, But due to lack of interest I didn't pay attention to it) Today I realized that this is a wonderful story, thank you for re-engaging me (unknowingly) to Sadiq Hussain Siddiqui's novel.
Between Timur and the Almohad Caliphate, which one is worse in al-Muqaddimah's eyes? Also, why Fraxinetum didn't declare itself an emirate like Crete? And can you do a video about Mansa Musa, please?
Timur
Timur
Timur
Almohad caliphate is pretty cool
The Almohad Caliphate literally birthed Al-Mansur who went on to slaughter over 400,000-500,000 Christians in 15 years of war being undefeated.
What are you talking about?
13.20 please tell me the background music. I will be grateful. Thank you
Can u make a vid bout yemen history my dude?
Wow, thanks for this. I was definitely of the notion that the Battle of Tours was the end of the story.
Do you know if Fraxinetum had many interactions with Vikings?
Do you know of a Tabletop game by Tomahawk games called Saga? It has various expansions including the Dark Ages called Age of Vikings. Fraxinetum would fit nicely into this game.
Battle of Autun in 725 AD by Anbasa ibn Suhaym al-Kalbi
How to you make your videos
do you have a video on al mamun the translator of aristoteles
I live near St. Gallen in Switzerland, didn't know before that the Andalusians payed us a visit 😁
For 150 years, yeah quite a visit.
@@user-fy9el2zu5g What do you mean? Fraxinetum was not located in St. Gallen.
Why doesn't this show up in any mapping video
13:51 is true to this day. I always say that
This is really opening my eyes
When I play EU IV, I always make a Muslim custom nation based on ex-muslim territory around their height and so I make muslim custom nation around Narbonne-Toulouse since it was the last muslim settlement in France before being pushed back
Now I know this so I just can filled up all southern France coast with muslim custom nation lmao, this is really interesting
Thanks for the video as always
Look up Anbasa ibn Suhaym al-Kalbi and the battle of Autun in 725 AD
World biggest history channel thank bro am from India
Hey al muqqadimah,
I have an idea for a video series, why not make a video about all the influencial imams. I mean really everyone not just abu hanifa, imam shafi, imam maliki, and imam hanbali, but also all the imams from the shia lika jafar as sadiq and so on. All these imams teached eachother, so you would also have a kind of continuity in your videos.
I started watching these videos with the Abbasid Caliphate series. But then I just kept going.
Heard of it along time ago, but few people talk about it. Poitier was not the last stand of muslims in Galia
Conquests of Anbasa Ibn Suhaym al-Kalbi in France. Especially, the battle of Autun in 725 AD.
Hey men are you good ? Long time no see
Thank you for checking up on me! I was traveling so couldn't get to making videos. I'll see you next week. ;)
Can't wait men, see you there
Not as simple as the good guys against the bad guys, except when Tamerlane is involved. Yep, never good when Tamerlane is involved.
I think what makes him look so bad is Him attacking ottomans and then Bayazid dies in His prison which makes it worst
Why is Fraxinetum shown as controlling all of Provence? Did they actually? Why is information so difficult to find about them?
Well. The scientific history is very different.
1) In Fraxinetum marauders settled, but we don't know at all if they were Muslims and, in that case, if they were Andalusian or Sicilian.
"Saracini" was a term that the mediaeval chronicles used to define the brigands, but it is a late term, used in sources subsequent to the date of the events.
After the initial allocation, this increased, due to the arrival of many men defined by the Chronicle of Novalesa (a later document of centuries) "pravi christiani".
2) At a certain point, these plunderers became a problem for the local political power, because they began to carry out real raids against monasteries and episcopal possessions (knowing that they were easily conquered and rich centres). The raids were conducted not only in the South of France, but also in the Italian Alps, in the Piedmont plain and on the Ligurian coasts.
3) The problem must have been considerable, because the Provençal nobility asked for help from the Byzantine fleet and Fraxinetum was destroyed with a joint international operation.
4) The term "Fraxinetum" is a toponym. It means "the place where numerous ash trees are found". Thus, it is not at all true that the various "Fraxinetum" found in toponymy were all Saracen settlements.
5) "Massif des Maurs" is not a oronyme directly linked to the moors. The racine "mor-" , in toponymy, means "stone".
In Croatia region Dalmatia also were Saracen Arabs, can you make video about that I have source on latin from venetian historian who write about Saracens in croatian island Cres and islands to the coast of Venice, there alos exist toponimes island Srakane from word Saracene/Sarakene, and village Sarakin in island Rab:
’’ Iohannes Diaconus, Chronicon Venetum II/51:
Idem nempe Saraceni videntes quod in christianis victoriam essent consecuti, ad Absarensem civitatem usque pertingere non dubitaverunt et in feria secunda Pasce incendio eam devastantes, ad Anconam civitatem transierunt, quam similiter igne concremantes, multos captivos exinde secum detulerunt. Deinde vastum per mare huc illuc navigantes, Adrianensem portum,qui vicinus Venecie subsistit, applicuere, ubi cum sortis industria se illic nullam predam capturos proevidissent, reddeundi iter ad propriam arripuerunt. Postquam vero ad exitum Adriatici culfi pervenerunt, naves Veneticorum, que de Sicilia seu de aliis partibus revertebantur, omnes ab eisdem comprehense sunt. In secundo vero anno iterum predicti Sarraceni maximo cum exercitu usque ad Quarnarii culfum pervenerunt; quos Venetici navali expedicione aggredientes, acriter iusta locum, qui Sansagus nominatur, supra eosdem irruerunt, sed demum Venetici dantes terga victi regressi sunt. Predicti Sarraceni etiam Romam ausi sunt adire ecclesiamque sancti Petri depredare. Verum ad sancti Pauli cum pervenissent, a Romanis civibus pene omnes occisi sunt. Circa haec tempora Sclavi venientes ad Veneticorum loca expugnanda, Caprulensem tantumodo castrum depredaverunt.’’
@المعتزلة MU'TAZILA ISLAM Are you Arab, Do you know about that before my comment?
@المعتزلة MU'TAZILA ISLAM Can you send to me historic scripture about that?
@المعتزلة MU'TAZILA ISLAM Islamic sources about Saracebes in Dalmatia
Believe me, whenever someone is biased and exaggerating something probably you would be furious, but when we hear the truth we will usually be happy
What I pictured in my head when I heard "Sicilian Muslims" at the 4:00 mark: "I'll make the infidel an offer he can't refuse: conversion or jizyah."
😆 🤣
What's your guys' opinion on people who aren't of your faith? Just wondering, thanks.
now i know why in crusader kings 3, emirate of crete are muwalladism, not asharism
That game is so accurate.
This would make for a fascinating Crusader Kings start. Too bad Paradox never added Fraxinetum as an independent Muslim state.