Abbasid Revolution - How the Umayyad Caliphate Fell DOCUMENTARY
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Kings and Generals historical animated documentary series on the history of medieval history, as well as the history of Islam continues with a video on the Abbasid Revolution, as we see which events led to the fall of the Umayyad Caliphate.
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The reformist Umayyad Caliph Umar ibn Abdul Azziz once stated:
"Verily, Allah has only sent Muhammad, peace and blessings be upon him, as a preacher and He did not send him as a tax collector.”
based, only good Umayyad
Amazing
@@sarahkareem1251 That's a western scandal. There's no evidence that Ummayads promoted cursing in Khutbah
@@shakalalalalkh1098 Abu Muslim great Persian warrior , he wanted to destroy the Islamic Kaaba and replace it with a Zoroastrianism Kaaba.
@@joerogue231 lol
I hope in a follow-up video, that you can cover how the last of the Umayyads,Abd al-Rahman I, fled to Spain and eventually founded the Caliphate of Cordoba, a state so powerful it rivaled even the Abbasid capital of Bagdhad in terms of splendor and academic accomplishments.
@Kuffar punisher Then they got completely destroyed by two tiny kingdoms to their north.
@Kuffar punisher Switzerland?
@@khalildz1552Was that the beginning of the Taifa Kingdoms period?
So Mohammad was a Moor??
@Mujahid What part of switzerland?
Fun Fact about Umar II: He was the matrilineal great-grandson of the first Umar, or the second caliph.
That's cool
Controversial figure as he often accused by modern historians as the person who introduced the pact of Umar and discriminated non Muslims and non Arab Muslims but also the one who tried to reform corrupt Umayyad system.
@@apalahartisebuahnama7684 any evidence he did that ? You are talking about umar ibn abdul aziz right ?
@@apalahartisebuahnama7684 Western lies
Umar ibn Abdul aziz right? If yes then that is definitely Western lies
@@apalahartisebuahnama7684
>Accused by modern historians
So some dude said something with no one ever recording it in the past over a thousand years later and you guys accept it as fact
Orientalism 101
I've heard of Al-Rahman. He had some pretty wild adventures throughout most of his life. But he ended up doing well in Spain. And for Spain while he ruled. My compliments to all those who made this video a reality.
@Mujahid---How interesting
@Mujahid You have been repeating the same comment all over the page. Why?
We are here to learn and enrich our understanding of history, this is no place for childish bragging about your clan like it's your favorite sports team....
@Mujahid Username checks out xD
Are you talking about Ibn muawiah 2nd
@@aegystierone8505 you are angry when we are, infact, enjoying history by hearing of the relevant achievements of the nation that is being discussed.
This is not childish at all, infact no part of his comment even hinted at bragging nor did he make any opinions known.
I never thought that I will get to see the Abbasid Revolution on TH-cam before! Thank you the team of Kings and Generals for making this video! Thank you so much! I will be looking forward for the videos such as the one about Sayyida al-Hurra and the daily life in al-Andalus for sure! Speaking of al-Andalus, I think you guys should make a series about its culture, society and everything about al-Andalus and the Emirate of Sicily.
There's a long video about It on the History Time Channel is really good
@@CooperDianeBob About al-Andalus and the Emirate of Sicily?
Emirate of sicily for sure - that is a subject of way less coverage than that of el andalus. I think he's done el andalus and it's already covered so much by other sources. The cultural fabric of the emirate of sicily is NEVER covered however
@@lerneanlion no, about the abassid revolution
👏🏿
This is something I have always wondered about. Glad you covered it. Keep creating incredible videos!
Hey August, I agree they always hit on the best subjects.
If you want to know more I can recomend you the viedeos of History Time about the Abbasid Revolution
These cowards the humiliated depressed iranian who are psychologically broken praising themselves and attribute fake achievements to them that they the one who played a big role by leading a sucessfully abbasid revolution aganist umayyad wake up from your Fantasies and illusions
iranian people leading many unsuccessful rebellion and revolt aganist umayyad before abbasid revolt resulted that they failed and many of you was begin massacred by umayyad in ever your failed revolt..in abbasid revolt it was mainely lead by arab tribes and arab abbasid and help you to get rid of umayyad enslavement and persecution Which were begin practiced by Umayyad Arabs on women and children and citizen of Iranian people 😅😅😅🙄
If arab tribes didn't turn aganist umayyad lead revolt and eventually sided.with arab abbasid iranian would be still begin enslaved by umayyad..fun fact that those silly iranian of slave guy whom called abu muslim khoursani who had been begin free from begin slave and raised up by arab abbasid family he was just a little preacher for the invasition for abbasid to slave poor khoursani people who begin enslaved by umayyad..
the chief of commander who lead and carried abbasid revolt was arab such as Qahtaba ibn Shabib al-Ta'i and abdallah ibn ali and their general who involed in revolt like mokatel ibn hakam al zidi and Dhu'ayb bin Al-Ash'ath Al-Khuza'i and Hafs bin Omar Al-Muhallabi while they are non persian general but army who were just slave and half army was of arab tribes of syrian and qays and yemeni
The Abbasid Dynasty was the most powerful country in the world
@@Amer_alshmery No, Umayyads were stronger. Abbasids did nothing in terms of military or expanding islam. Abbasids just cared about keeping their borders, but they did a lot for science, literature, math etc.
I love Islamic history, but I can never read the comments on these videos. Suddenly everyone is an expert on the Umayyad Caliphate
haha.
What do you think about the Umayyads?
@@GadanferI think they were greedy for power
@@MK-ps2gw Exactly, and nothing but power
@Gadanfer they were great and shaped human history for the better
Umayyads for the most part , avoided converting conquered populations, as they saw Islam as a badge of honor exclusive to Arabs alone, their favoritism of the Syrian population also alienated the Iraqi Arabs who have been the Syrian's rivals even before Islam.
How did the jizyah work in this period?
@ق اجخخ Early umayyads yes but not late
@@GoodGirlKate each city or kingdom would give 2.5 percent of its income
@@mohammad.alkurdi. I see
@𝔭𝔥𝔬𝔢𝔫𝔦𝔵 No no just curious
Bro when you mention Jizya please Mention Zakat which is five times the jizya
good point
zakat is a must on every muslim to the poor of god. Imposed by god not by the politicians but jizya is political
basically the non muslim dissent to be taxed 5TIMES lower than Muslim because it is not prescribed in the Quran, they want to live in caliphate without paying any tax at all and to be treated better than muslim
@Moneyxl00 In addition, one of the eight purposes of Zakat is provided to the poor non-Muslims who are already Jizya free.
@Moneyxl00 don't lie, Abdul
Hey there.
I am a Muslim from Uzbekistan, Central Asia and i really love the content you make (especially a podcast on Spotify about the Mongols)
Pls make a video about the Arab conquest of Central Asia
I’m just amazed how Arabs fought in the Central Asian steppes. Then again, Arabian Peninsula is similar just hotter and sandier
@@cuts_off_prius your name. I think is a character from spongebob ?
I'm morrocan I'm fond of the golden horde and timurids and Mughals Berke Khan/ulugh beg/prince Timur
@@tolui1874 What about Baibars
Do you even allow to had internet over there?
16:26 Falcon of Quraish and the Devil are the nicknames that the Abbasid Caliph al-Mansur gave to Abd al-Rahman after he sent him a box full of severed heads from al-Mansur’s army soldiers, which he sent to take Iberia from Abd al-Rahman.
@Uwais Bhai "Islamic Golden Age" that us muslims always brags about started during Abbasid era. Stop being an edgy warmonger.
@Uwais Bhai Ummayad were too cruel
These cowards the humiliated depressed iranian who are psychologically broken praising themselves and attribute fake achievements to them that they the one who played a big role by leading a sucessfully abbasid revolution aganist umayyad wake up from your Fantasies and illusions
iranian people leading many unsuccessful rebellion and revolt aganist umayyad before abbasid revolt resulted that they failed and many of you was begin massacred by umayyad in ever your failed revolt..in abbasid revolt it was mainely lead by arab tribes and arab abbasid and help you to get rid of umayyad enslavement and persecution Which were begin practiced by Umayyad Arabs on women and children and citizen of Iranian people 😅😅😅🙄
If arab tribes didn't turn aganist umayyad lead revolt and eventually sided.with arab abbasid iranian would be still begin enslaved by umayyad..fun fact that those silly iranian of slave guy whom called abu muslim khoursani who had been begin free from begin slave and raised up by arab abbasid family he was just a little preacher for the invasition for abbasid to slave poor khoursani people who begin enslaved by umayyad..
the chief of commander who lead and carried abbasid revolt was arab such as Qahtaba ibn Shabib al-Ta'i and abdallah ibn ali and their general who involed in revolt like mokatel ibn hakam al zidi and Dhu'ayb bin Al-Ash'ath Al-Khuza'i and Hafs bin Omar Al-Muhallabi while they are non persian general but army who were just slave and half army was of arab tribes of syrian and qays and yemeni
Letter from Abdullah ibn Abbas to Yazid ibn Muawiya after the battle of Karbala:
"If I have forgotten something, I have not forgotten that you removed Husayn from the Sanctuary of the Messenger of Allah (S) to move to the Sanctuary of Allah, you sent mounted soldiers towards him and you were such till you sent him to Iraq and he also departed fearful and anxious of your mounted soldiers as a result of your enmity with regard to Allah, His Prophet and his Ahlul Bayt - from whom Allah has kept away filth and purified them thoroughly. He wanted you to leave him to return from where he had come. But you preferred to eliminate his few companions and Ahlul Bayt. Thus you attacked him, as if you killed the Ahlul Bayt by deserting and denial. *I don’t find anything more surprising than the fact that you seek my support while you have killed the sons of my father and blood is dripping from your sword. You are one of the targets of my revenge. Your victory upon us today should not make you vain as we would also be victorious upon you one day.”*
(Ibn al-Athir, Tarikh, 4/127-128)
And it was finally Abdullah ibn Abbas's grandson, as-Saffah, who took that revenge from the Umayyads.
@البتّار الازدي
Lol .
Why didn't yazeed (L) took revenge from Ibn ziyad?
@البتّار الازدي
Who attacked madinah when people of medinah took off Bayt of yazeed e paleed ?
Kudos to you guys again for choosing this fascinating subjects. Highly recommending it to continue especially with subjects such as the death of Abu Muslim in the hands of caliph al-Mansur, the Fourth Fitna which paved the way for what we know today as the Iranian Intermezzo and the introduction of Turkic commanders in the Abbasid army which led to a series of incidents termed as Anarchy at Samara.
In my opinion, you guys have made a critical mistake. The term Shi'a historically goes through some major changes.
The Shi'a at that time was mostly defined as the supporter of Ahl-Beit and their well-being (giving their diminished status in the Ummayad dynasty and their harsh treatments) and not necessarily the supporter of Ahl-Beit as the ruler of the Ummah.
In other words, there could be many Sunnis who based on this definition were regarded as Shi'a at the time.
Shiites use the name Ahl al-Bayt (peace be upon him) to corrupt the land!
You seem to be learned on this point of history and topic. I have been trying to understand the role of Ahlul bayt in promoting the shia views? Especially the Imams Zain ul Abideen onwards. Would you be able to comment in that? As per the sunnis there were just normal sunni scholars whereas from shias we get the accounts in which they are propagating proto-shia teachings. Have you been able to ascertain any of this?
@@sarahkareem1251
Yes! The one who founded the Shiites is Abdullah bin Saba, and he is the one who led the crime that occurred against the rightly-guided Caliph Othman bin Affan.
Interesting Peyman
Stop this bullying I mean those who are fighting at comments section, don't live at 1600 s!
K&G always amaze me. They find the most interesting historical events.
Well I mean they have come along way since the days off Nurrik and Phoinex I still remember that Azerbaijani voice actor in the original videos it’s like they have completely growing at 100% and more
@Mujahid I think what they mean is that they didn't get the same amount of amazing success they did in Spain, though you're right that the emirate of fraxinet (which was more a bunch of military frontier bases to raid locals) they did hit as far north as Switzerland
@Mujahid you are sleeping watch the battle of the tours by k&G
and also the narrating is unique
@Uwais Bhai yes, muslim raiders would be that successful, the lands of what is now switzerland would be raided by way of the rhone valley, they also even hits part of southern germany for a while
What is funny is that the Abbasids chose a black flag to contrast the Umayyad's white flag, but then the Fatimid Caliphate later on chose the white flag to contrast against the Abbasid black flag. I wonder if the Fatimids realized the irony of using a white flag when it was the Umayyads who killed Hussein. Not that Shi'ite Imams fared well under Abbasid rule.
I seem to have started a religious/political argument by accident. Whoops. I thought the blame for Karbala was pretty universally put on Umayyad forces but apparently people disagree.
@Philosophy 2 Yazid didn't order the killing per se but I don't think they were shi'ites who killed him. Plus, the buck stops at the top so generally if your underlings fuck up you own the bag. I don't think Yazid punished the men who killed Hussein which is really the only way he could have distanced himself from it.
Abu Muslim great Persian warrior , he wanted to destroy the Islamic Kaaba and replace it with a Zoroastrianism Kaaba.
@Philosophy 2 I think I see what you mean, his killer fought on Ali's side at one point, but he defected to the Umayyad's by the time of Karbala.
@Philosophy 2 They feel responsible for asking Husayn to come to Kufa and rebel against the Umayyads, and then not coming to his aid when he needed it. They "killed" Husayn in the sense of putting him in danger, but they were not the ones who attacked and killed him.
@Philosophy 2 damn you are so biased. You don't Have to say excuses just say Shia are hypocrite.
Just to let you know the kufa people were trying their best to revolt but they couldn't because the Wale of the kufa made a futna between the tribes and then he started taking them out one by one
The Umayyads and Muhammad were supposedly related through Muhammad's Great-Great Grandfather Abd Manaf while the Abbasids were related to Muhammad through his uncle Al-Abbas ibn Abd al-Muttalib who was only 3 years older than Muhammad.
Hashimites, Umayyads, Abbasids and Fatimids are all related as they're all from Quraish tribe and ironically fought each other for the legitimacy to lead the Islamic community.
@@apalahartisebuahnama7684 the fatimids are not hachimiyin
Many Muslim "historians" still paint all historical events with overtly spiritual context. I'm glad channels like this give a more humanist perspective on these events, and not just the shallow "by divine decree" explanation I got as a child. The people didn't just revolt because the Umayyads were illegitimate. They did because they were exclusive in their policies. There is a reason why the revolt began in Iran, and it's not because the Iranians were super pious or anything.
Literally the same is taught by Muslim historians, who do you think noted all of this down? Some traveling Christian? All of the sources are muslim sources. And yes it was indeed the divine decree that the Ummayds be ousted. Nothing happens without the will of God.
It happens with Allah's Will. The politics depends on who tells the story. We should view history via the eyes of Islam and the understanding of the Companions of the Prophet. The ummayyad were illegmite but even so they are Muslims and they conquered alot of land for the muslims and spread the religion.
4:21
Listen carefully, here he says how "spirituality" did influence the politics.
@@arifahmedkhan9999 Yeah please do leave the mystical mumbo jumbo out of actual history, and yes, history is a coin, with two sides. One side tells a story, another tells the same with a different perspective. Islamic history was compiled after the formation of the Abbasids so historians omitted and added whatever they pleased. For example, when the Muslim army was defeated in Nubia, twice. Late Islamic sources barely mention it, and when they do, they paint it as a victory. Another example, the history of the early Islamic civil war, was not properly recorded because it was a shameful point for them. Most of the information comes from the Byzantine bishop Sebeos, and later Islamic chroniclers accepted his story.
@@arifahmedkhan9999 I'm not talking about the traveling historians of the time. I'm talking about the prevailing narrative that is thought today. I'd much rather learn about Islamic history from sources such as this channel than the historian talking in some history program on television in an Islamic country.
We can agree to disagree to the "And yes it was indeed the divine decree that the Ummayds be ousted. Nothing happens without the will of God." part. Because I think that's just some empty statement.
3:28, just a note on the topic of jiziya which seems to garner a lot of misconception amongst people who are not very knowledgeable on the topic. The reason the non-Muslims were required to pay this specific tax was because Muslims were already paying their own tax, namely the Zakat. Now because Zakat is a pillar of Islam (just like fasting in Ramadan), one cannot make non-Muslims also pay the Zakat (just like one cannot make a non-Muslim fast during Ramadan). To overcome this problem, and make things more fair amongst the people, the jiziya tax was established. That way, non-Muslims are also contributing to the services granted to them by the Caliphate rather than only having Muslims pay for those services and non-Muslims benefitting off of them for free. Also, in some cases, the jiziya tax was even lower than the Zakat.
Well depending on the ruler, good rulers put it lower, but bad ones, they put it high and difficult.
@@beren1898 But you’re supposed to be merciful to those who can’t pay or those unable.
Lol zakat was used later to feed the poor while jizyah's money was thrown to the empire's treasury that was exploited by the last corrupt caliphs
Thank you so much Kings and Generals channel for paying so much attention to the historical details and upholding them so nicely and accurately. Most of the documentary TH-cam channels prefer not to make contents about the Islamic history and even when they create such contents are often biased in making those. Staying neutral and presenting the actual story is what we viewers need and deserve. Thank you from the core of my heart for making such a good content. I urge you to carry on the good work in the days to come. Keep up the good work. We viewers love and support you. Assalam Alaikum.
Great video! Certainly looking forward to hearing the tale of Ummayads of Al-Andalus and the Fatimid Caliphs!
@علي ياسر that logic makes no sense. Charlemagne fought Christians just as much as he fought Muslims and Pagans.
As a history geek im alway happy to see such videos, thinking "damn i never was interested in that part/period of history" just to watch it and be fascinatet by a new world and perspective 🖖🏼
@Kuffar punisher Spain isn’t much of Europe.
@@zkatom3773 Spain, southern France (Gaul), Portugal, Sicily, Switzerland, Cyprus is*
@@MohsinRaza-uq2ow Where did you bring Switzerland from? That’s false. And Cyprus isn’t part of Europe wtf.
Thanks to give more humanist event of what happened, because lotof Muslim historians try to give spiritual excuse of this event
And we don't forget what ummuyad do in North Africa and what they do to the family of muhammad (sas)
The ummuyad get defeated from north Africa after the great berber revolt
Not true...berber revolt was crushed and you became our slaves again...you berbers love to create a fake history of your own
The umayyad was just defeat in first of berber revolt at the end the umayyad shut down the berber revolt after defeated you in battle of alsnam (معركة الاصنام) and battle of alqren under umayyad general handela ibn safwan al kalbi who killed 180k of berber rebel this event was also mentioned by north african historian ibn khaldoun and ibn azari and ibn raqeq
@@sageralanizi3457
You right The umayyad was just defeat in first of berber revolt at the end the umayyad shut down the berber revolt after defeated you in battle of alsnam (معركة الاصنام) and battle of alqren under umayyad general handela ibn safwan al kalbi who killed 180k of berber rebel this event was also mentioned by north african historian ibn khaldoun and ibn azari and ibn raqeq
@@sageralanizi3457 a (زنجي رمال) who try to laying to himselfyou drinkers of pissofcamel you get kicked out of aour country
Abu Muslim great Persian warrior , he wanted to destroy the Islamic Kaaba and replace it with a Zoroastrianism Kaaba.
Kings and Generals, no channel comes close to this one when it comes to explaining history in a very comprehensive and visually splendid mannner
I love how historically diverse this channel is. Keep up the great work 👍🏼.
hell even the Rivalries between Dwarves and elves are a topic in this channel.. or the sister ch i think. 😆
@Mijan Hogue "Historically diverse"?? Does that mean 'real history' vs 'fake history' ??
@@geoffreyfoster8039 No as In shows historical battles from the Eastern, Southern, Northern and various countries and not just confined to Western Europe cause it’s popular
the Abbasid Revolution was one of the most secret and organised revolution in human history
As a muslim history enthusiast who's been following Kings and Generals for about 2 years now, I'd like to make a few remarks here.
First of all, this is a great video and it's clear that a lot of effort went into it and I appreciate it very much. Like I said, I'm a big fan of the channel and follow you guys enthusiastically. However, I have noticed that in the videos about Islamic history, especially this one, you tend to consult Western sources more than Islamic ones. I would recommend that you do more detailed research through the Arabic sources before moving to the Western ones.
Secondly, there are a few inaccuracies which need to be addressed. You mention that Muhammad ibn Hanafiyyah is the fourth Imam of the Shia sect which is simply not true. While he did claim the Imamate, his followers were very few in number and he was in fact overshadowed by the actual fourth Imam Ali ibn Hussain. The followers of Muhammad ibn Hanafiyyah are a different sect called Kaysanites which is currently extinct. It's also interesting that you connected the minor revolts carried out by the Hashimites to the eventual Abbasid victory. While there was certain discontent with the Umayyad rule among different groups for various different reasons, the Hashimite resistance was the most prominent among them. However, the Abbasids weren't direct descendents of the Prophet and therefore lacked the legitimacy that Hashimites had. The Abbasid victory wasn't the result of meticulous planning over decades, they merely exploited the already-existing Hashimite resistance. They were in the right place at the right time, so to speak.
I would recommend that you do further research into the actual Shia Imams' stances towards the various revolts happening at their time. If you delve deeper, you will find that Abbasids were quick to adapt the same policy of oppression towards Shias, despite their initial claims of supporting the household of the Prophet.
Once again, thanks for this amazing video and hope to see more on Islamic history. :)
@@OmegaFares They quote Patricia Crone in 5:40 and Tabari in 15:30. Other than that, you can email them about the sources they used. I wouldn't be surprised though, Umayyads generally had a bad reputation and they even discriminated amongst Arabs. The video sheds light on some of their dealings; for example, they did in fact prioritize Syrian Arabs over Hijaz despite the latter being the birthplace of Islam. Kufa was a city established by Arab emigrants but it suffered the most of Umayyad rule (due to its Shia population) and entire massacres are reported during the time of Muawiyah, the first Umayyad caliph. His son Yazid also committed atrocities in Madinah known as the day of Harra. I would say those who suffered most were Persians and Shias.
@@zehrabogatu4094 in which source the massacre of kufa is reported during the time of frist umayyad calip ?
@@isaiyan1002
Here are some Arab sources that I had noted:
Tabari, v.III, p.407; v.IV, p.553; v.V, p.98, 139-140, 155, 167-169, 176, 181, 212, 234, 253, 287, 335.
Mas'udi, v.III, p.30-31, 149.
Ya‘kubi, v.II, p.156, 197-199, 240.
@@zehrabogatu4094 I've check there I'd no such report with sahih isnand in tafsir at tabari
@@isaiyan1002 Perhaps I didn't phrase it correctly. Tafsir is the exegesis of the Quran. Since this is a matter of history, you should check Tarikh al-Tabari, his historical work. You can also search about Busr ibn Abi Artat, the lieutenant of Mu'awiyah who undertook the subjugation of Hijaz and Yemen. Moreover, I think you have a misconception about what isnad is. In Islam, isnad is a list of authorities who have transmitted a report (hadith) of a statement, action, or approbation of the Prophet, of one of his companions, or of a later authority; its reliability determines the validity of a hadith. However, historiography does not necessarily depend on the chain of transmission since this is not a religious issue. An event that is narrated by more than one authority can be accepted as valid, regardless of isnad.
great content 👍. The animation makes it more interesting. One suggestion - plz Make a video on "Kanishka 1 or known as second Ashoka. The emperor of Kushan Dynasty"
One of the least known and most important powers in the Middle East. The glory of Baghdad during their time was stunning. I cover this in my lectures. Great stuff!
Baghdad was in fact only founded then, yet they made it flourish to be the highlight of the Medievals.
I wouldn't call the Abbasids unknown. Well I am from a Muslim country but I find it hard to believe that they're that obsecure in people's eyes elsewhere to call them unknown. Is the middle East not covered in history where you're from?
@@hmmm3210 California. I have almost no students who have heard about them. You are right they are much better known in the Middle East
Love this channel because they always talk about history most have never heard before. And Islamic history is like pretty underrated to the general public.
Not really
You always manage to post content on the era I’m currently interested in
I like the name they gave Spian back in early 8th century Al-Andalus.
The origin is uncertain, but some speculate it came from the Germanic name of the land of modern day Andalusia, landa-hlauts or even from the vandals, vandalusia being the possible name of the kingdom they once owned in Iberia from which andalus derived.
it comes from the Germanic tribe the Vandals/Vandalusia/(The/Al) (Andalus/Vandalus) where they were settled in the south of the iberian peninsula..while the germanic Sueves/Suebi in the northwest and Wishigoths in most of the peninsula
@@miguelpadeiro762 we commented at the same time about this 😂
@@prince_mauri1975 and what about Germany, which was Almania? what's the etymology for that?
Basques say hey
another amazing one!
just one thing, and i would be happy to be corrected, the shia doctrine that we see now was not yet established at that point. it was a political dispute more than it being a religious one. The separation happened later after the golden age of the Abbasid empire, however, it happened on the basis of these events and a couple more events
The actual schism occured long before. The First Fitna was the initiation of the schism.
Yes you are right, what we call shia today didn't solidify itself as a completely different sect until around the 1500s when Ismael shah conquered Persian and imposed the new doctrine on people to solidify his rule and as opposition to the ottomans who were the dominant Muslim power at the time.
@@abdullahsagga7195 Actually the Twelver Shia doctorine was already solidified during the reign of Buyids at around 1000 CE. Buyids had already politicized the schism to form an independent entity against Abbasid authority.
Later on Safavids utilized this doctorine and expanded upon it to form a monolithic populace under their rule and as a differentiation for Safavid influence against Ottoman influence.
The end result could in some ways be described as, “Same same, but different.”
No it was very different. That collation that the Abbasids built led to the House of Wisdom and scholarly works and some of the first multicultural societies in the world since ancient Persia
These cowards the humiliated depressed iranian who are psychologically broken praising themselves and attribute fake achievements to them that they the one who played a big role by leading a sucessfully abbasid revolution aganist umayyad wake up from your Fantasies and illusions
iranian people leading many unsuccessful rebellion and revolt aganist umayyad before abbasid revolt resulted that they failed and many of you was begin massacred by umayyad in ever your failed revolt..in abbasid revolt it was mainely lead by arab tribes and arab abbasid and help you to get rid of umayyad enslavement and persecution Which were begin practiced by Umayyad Arabs on women and children and citizen of Iranian people 😅😅😅🙄
If arab tribes didn't turn aganist umayyad lead revolt and eventually sided.with arab abbasid iranian would be still begin enslaved by umayyad..fun fact that those silly iranian of slave guy whom called abu muslim khoursani who had been begin free from begin slave and raised up by arab abbasid family he was just a little preacher for the invasition for abbasid to slave poor khoursani people who begin enslaved by umayyad..
the chief of commander who lead and carried abbasid revolt was arab such as Qahtaba ibn Shabib al-Ta'i and abdallah ibn ali and their general who involed in revolt like mokatel ibn hakam al zidi and Dhu'ayb bin Al-Ash'ath Al-Khuza'i and Hafs bin Omar Al-Muhallabi while they are non persian general but army who were just slave and half army was of arab tribes of syrian and qays and yemeni
While there was a gradual shift from Zoroastrianism towards Islam following the Arab invasion of the Sassanid empire, to claim that the subsequent caliphates had an attitude of religious toleration towards non-Muslim Iranians or even Iranians in general, seems a bit of a hyperbole.
In addition, the idea that Iranians were quickly enthralled and fascinated by the religion of their conquerors from the beginning is dubious at best given that there where widespread opposition to the Arab rule.
This was chiefly manifested in the early years of Arab occupation. A prime example of this is the assassination of the second Rashidun Caliph, Umar, by an Iranian slave called Piruz Nahavandei.
To add, the following rebellions against the Arab rule starting from the rebellion in the city of Estakhr during the time of Rashudin Caliphate in southwestern Persia (which led to the death of forty thousand Persians and the sacking of the aforementioned city by the Arab forces) to the rebellions of Abu Muslim Khorasanei and Babak Khoramdin, which happen in quick succession, demonstrate that Persians did not take kindly to their new overlords or their religion at the first glance.
Abu Muslim was as the nickname suggests a Muslim and babak was defeated by fellow Persians
And don’t forget about the Ziyarids, their founder was a Zoroastrian who hated Muslims and reigned from 930 to 935AD.
True, it's quite common for conquered people to accept new overlordship from another people from another religion. But it's also true overtime many Persian converts able to exercise power under Abbasids and even basically became hereditary head of government to the point that after many unsuccessful attempt to rebel eventually many Persians able to de facto exercise an independent realms from Arabs.
Kings and General s is OTHER level of covering, history,by far the most detailed so far
I appreciate your efforts and really enjoy this channel but just to clarify things " Jizia" is like "Zaka" but for non-muslims which is 2.5% And jizia is even less !
Keep going to make this kind of videos
It's so amazing
Agreed
Your voice is blessed, your explanation is blessed.
Abbasid Revolution is one of the most satisfying thing which happened in History
The Ummayid Caliphate had a short rule in India ,Abbasids ruled for more time .As well as many persians fled to India during Ummyad expansion.
Arabs never invaded India(modern)
They stopped at Pakistan mostly
Turkic afghani people ruled north India mostly they don't have blood ancestry
Mighty Mughals and Delhi sultanate ruled india for 650 years combined
Ghaznavids and Ghurid empire are impotents and worthless empires
Muslims ruled India 800 years
They ruled Indian subcontinent 1000 years and they ruled south Asia 1200 years mostly
Only noble people fled to china,india some in centeral Asia but not normal people because back then this is pretty common.
Abu Jaffar al-Mansoor (the Abbasid Caliph) liked Abdulrahman al-Dakhil and called him "Saqr Quraysh" "The Falcon of Qureish" *صقر قريش".
@Kuffar punisher No need to flex the "Arab" part too hard, bro. I'm Arab myself but my allegiance in only to Islam.
Your videos are really good, up to the point and mostly unbiased. Cam you please do a video on battle on Kose Dag (seljuk vs Mongols) and batlle of Ain jalut (mamluks vs Mongol)
They've made a video on Ain Jalut
The Umayyads and Abbasid are from Quraish and their origin is from Mecca. 🕋🇸🇦❤️ (love all Muslim’s)
Yet another good video, does this mean soon we will be getting new season of Rashidun expansion ? been waiting that one for a while alongside with new episodes of Alexander and First Crusade Documentaries. keep up good work 😇
I think he'll be covering the much more interesting second fitna and the Umayyad reconquest of the Caliphate back to Umayyad rule under Abdul Malik against the Zubayrid caliphate as well as mukhtars pro Alid revolt in which he managed to slay Ubaydullah Ibn Ziyad the commander against Hussain which also happened then. There's already a tonne of content on the Rashidun tbf .
One thing I really wish you touched more on was on the death of ibrahim bin muhammad. This is something that history seems to have skipped over, and i can't find a lot of information on it. It's interesting because it's very strange that THIS LATE into the Abbasid revolution that ibrahim bin muhammad should have even been so vulnerable as to have been able to be captured & executed by the umayyads. As you said, this was all the way after the battle & overthrow of the umayyads in KUFA. I mean, this is a longggg ways into the revolution, and at this point the umayyads are literally clinging to power by threads mostly via their loyal followers in Syria. Ibrahim was stationed all the way to the east in Khorasan province where, as you said before, it was safe because it was far away from the umayyad stronghold in Syria. I've never understood this bit of the story and always wondered or not there was actually some type of intrigue which then brought El Saffah into power. Because as soon as Ibrahim is out of the way, El Saffah comes to power and then the show really gets started. If anyone has links to info on this event and the immediate aftermath of El Saffah taking power, please provide them because this has just always baffled me.
maybe umayyad spy caught him.
@@HTH64 i think much more likely El Saffah had him murdered
@@alexcarter2542 yea or turned him in
@@HTH64 no doubt
Really enjoyed this episode. It's proves know matter how right your path is, you still have free will and your pride is your number one enemy. Once again, thank you Kings and Generals Team!
The thumbnail autoplay played the sponsor ad and so I thought the answer was zombies for a second. The caliphate fell because of zombies.
By the way i think that tabari's number of 12,000 men on the umayyad side under mawan II is much more likely than the 100,000 abbasid sources seem to relate. Mostly because at this point, his previous armies of 10,000 and then 50,000 had already been defeated, and with no general to fight save himself, i have the feeling that at this point marwan was barely in control of anything and the scant 12,000 was more likely just the last death throws of the umayyad's once EXTREMELY powerful influence. I think even those men going into battle for the umayyads 100% knew they were marching to their deaths, but i believe their families had basically been well, WELL compensated for their seemingly uncompromising loyalty to the umayyad clan.
أمس قرأت نص الطبري
في البداية كان كلاما بين أبو جعفر وسالم مولى مروان في مجلس أبو جعفر من قبيل الكلام عن معارك الماضي
فذكر سالم وهو كاتب مروان
أن مروان سأل سالما أن يقدر الجيش العباسي بقيادة أبو جعفر فأجاب سالم أنه كاتب وليس متخصصا بهذا فنظر مروان وقدرهم بمجرد النظر أنهم 12،000 فقال أبو جعفر أنه أصاب
@@gaavar اه لكن السؤال هذا: ما هو عدد الجيش الأموي بقيادة مروان؟؟
Great video as always, U guys got any idea when the third season for the early rise of Islam is coming out?
There is a mistake in the video about the meaning of Dihqan (DEHKHAN which is more common), the dehkāns “lower class of landowners” were divided into five subgroups, each distinguished by the color of the garments worn (Christensen, Iran Sass., p. 107) in short Dehqans are not Persian nobility!
lol a day ago I was searching for a video on this topic, had to read about it on wikipedia but I'm glad this got released recently because now I can have a more visual association to the events.
As a person that watches your videos , I really appreciate this.
نحن كالمسلمين فرحون ببيانك وشرحك للتاريخ الإسلامي مفصلا. ولو كنت وجدت بعض الأخطاء اليسيرة في بعض فديوهاتك، لكن الأغلب صحيح مصيب كما ذكره علماء المسلمين ومؤرخوهم. نحن ندعمك في هذا الجهد المبذول، ونحن فرحون أيضا إن أعطيت العنوان الفرعي ) subtitle) باللغة العربية ولغتهم من بعض أهل بلاد المسلمين كالإندونسية والماليزية وغيرها لأنهم مازالوا عمين بتاريخهم أنفسهم...
هذا التاريخ ملك للعرب فقط هل المسلمين اليونانيين والصينيين شاركوا بالفتوحات حتى تقول المسلمين؟
Not "Shias", but "Proto-Shias".
The schism didn't actually take place in total until 1000s CE at the zenith of the Abbasid empire. (And started its decline)
Well they were called Shia too back then, or Shiat Ali. The theological doctrine changed much later.
The schism had already occured at the time of First Fitna and Battle of Camel and Battle of Seffeyn. Pro-Ali forces were Proto-Shias and their adversaries, including Ummayids and forces accompanying Aisha, were Proto-Sunnis.
@@alirezafalamarzijahromi8961 That was a political divide. Religious schism taken place later.
@@jamieammar6131 The religious leadership never unified afterwards. Bear in mind that the title of Caliph was not just a political title, but also a religious one. So it is not incorrect to say First Fitna was the begining of the political divide, and also the religious one. Because never again, except for the period of the peace between Muawiyah and Hasan, the religious leadership was unified; not even then, because supporters of Hasan never accepted Muawiyah as their religious figurehead.
@@alirezafalamarzijahromi8961 You are right at what you say but.. that is oversimplification. Not only the supporter of Hasan, but also the Hejazi Arabs did not like the Umayyads, whom had the support of the Syrian Arabs and the military. And It is difficult to assume that, because the doctrine and creed were not fortified by then. For example, the Islamic creed of Kalma, the declaration that one uses, there is no god but Allah, Muhammad is his messenger..that was not the creed of the Ummah up until Abdallah ibn al Malik defeated and killed Abdallah ibn Zubayr in Mecca. Only after that when Hajjaj was appointed governor of Hejaz, the Tayyiba and Shahada were declared. Before that, ibn Al Malik's slogan was 'Khalifat Allah', the slogan of the rebels were 'La hukma illa lillah' as they did not see ibn al Malik as the deputy of God.. and ibn Zubayr's slogan was 'Muhammad rasool allah'.
Please cover Muslim Spain in the future, make it hours long episode like the Roman ones. It’s one of the most underrated moments in history
Just wanted say I enjoy your content and have learned alot from your videos. Look forward to future videos.
Thanks so much! :D This gives me a very interesting set of ideas to consider for my book series and it also creates an atmosphere of conflict that I couldn't quite master before.
@Kuffar punisher
Whoah, what's up with that name bro !
The names such as “ al Safah “ have different meanings other than the blood spiller. Arabic language is considerably difficult for foreigners but the pro-abbasids meant by “al safah” the forgiver and the opposite to the pro-Umayyad who view him the blood spiller.
Anyway it is lovely material
@Hatem Raafat "فأعف عنهم واصفح ان الله يحب المحسنين" صورة المائده الآية
Surah Madiah ayah 13 "But pardon them and overlook [their misdeeds] indeed Allah loves the doers of good" so the word صفح (Safh) can be used as forgive or overlook.
@@user-bc1wt6qf4l انا مب متأكد بس اللقب الا القب نفسه فيه هو السفاح وليس الصفاح، و اصفح و السفاح ليس مثل المعنى
على ما اذكر انه قال: انا سفاح بني اميه. والله علم
السفاح
@@ajr1466 صدقت يا اخي،
@@ajr1466 انت صح
I was literally searching for this on youtube and it’s uploaded today. Wow
This documentary is so badass, the only bad thing about it is the stupid "forgive us" ad, youtube puts in front
You did get one thing wrong though, muhammad bin ali bin abi talib is actually imam ali's third son, after hassan and hussein, not his fourth son as stated at 8:00.
These cowards the humiliated depressed iranian who are psychologically broken praising themselves and attribute fake achievements to them that they the one who played a big role by leading a sucessfully abbasid revolution aganist umayyad wake up from your Fantasies and illusions
iranian people leading many unsuccessful rebellion and revolt aganist umayyad before abbasid revolt resulted that they failed and many of you was begin massacred by umayyad in ever your failed revolt..in abbasid revolt it was mainely lead by arab tribes and arab abbasid and help you to get rid of umayyad enslavement and persecution Which were begin practiced by Umayyad Arabs on women and children and citizen of Iranian people 😅😅😅🙄
If arab tribes didn't turn aganist umayyad lead revolt and eventually sided.with arab abbasid iranian would be still begin enslaved by umayyad..fun fact that those silly iranian of slave guy whom called abu muslim khoursani who had been begin free from begin slave and raised up by arab abbasid family he was just a little preacher for the invasition for abbasid to slave poor khoursani people who begin enslaved by umayyad..
the chief of commander who lead and carried abbasid revolt was arab such as Qahtaba ibn Shabib al-Ta'i and abdallah ibn ali and their general who involed in revolt like mokatel ibn hakam al zidi and Dhu'ayb bin Al-Ash'ath Al-Khuza'i and Hafs bin Omar Al-Muhallabi while they are non persian general but army who were just slave and half army was of arab tribes of syrian and qays and yemeni
@@ghostd69 lol jeez man there's a lot to unpack there 🤣
It will be great if you make an video of arab conquest and administration of Sindh
This is something I was feeling the need of today here it's today only that you got this!
Proud to say that im a descendant of Abbasids
16:15 "The Abbasids send their regards"
@Kuffar punisher When did that happen ?
I think you should make an episode about Khalid Ibn Alwaleed. That man is always fun to learn about his life and military achievements
The Umayyad family survived in Al Andalus
Yeah he mentions that in 16:28 the Umayyad emirs that ruled the emirate of Córdoba and the caliphate of Córdoba were all the descendants of abd Al rahman I
Before long this channel is gonna become a archive of the history of all mankind
History Time did a fantastic video on this revolution. It's hard to follow since both sides have leaders with Arabic names, so it is nice to get a new video on the topic.
Yeah, that's what made me really interested in this subject
Jizyah can't be cause of conversion.... Jizyah was legitimate for the rich or capable non Muslims.... If any rich non Muslim converts into Islam he/she must pay Zakat.... U know zakat...? Muslims also pay extra Tax called Zakat..And it is obvious
Me, playing CK2 as the Umayyads fighting the Abbasids:
Reality is often disappointing
@Kuffar punisher very laughable indeed ...the abbasids took an empire from the ummayids what is a battle
@Mujahid unlike the "Outward Expansion" the ummayads did, Abbasid was more into "Inward Perfection", which creates "Islamic Golden Age", you know, the era us muslims always brags about 👀
Imagine valuing a country based on its military capabilities alone.
@Kuffar punisher that's just a small part of their era. Ummayads were still more intense in terms of conquest.
Imagine valuing a country based on its military capabilities alone (2)
@@SetuwoKecik
Look at the guy's username. You shouldn't be surprised.
@@budakbaongsiah yeah, I already knows that's he's just typical edgy 14yo kid
*YA RAB !!! REVIVE THE ISLAMIC WARRIORS* ⚔️
As magnificent as always 😍 the content you share is marvellous 👌
This was an excellent narrative on the end of the Ummyads and the rise of the Abbasid caliphate.
Thank you!
@Kuffar punisher they ended in the East and continued in Spain!
These cowards the humiliated depressed iranian who are psychologically broken praising themselves and attribute fake achievements to them that they the one who played a big role by leading a sucessfully abbasid revolution aganist umayyad wake up from your Fantasies and illusions
iranian people leading many unsuccessful rebellion and revolt aganist umayyad before abbasid revolt resulted that they failed and many of you was begin massacred by umayyad in ever your failed revolt..in abbasid revolt it was mainely lead by arab tribes and arab abbasid and help you to get rid of umayyad enslavement and persecution Which were begin practiced by Umayyad Arabs on women and children and citizen of Iranian people 😅😅😅🙄
If arab tribes didn't turn aganist umayyad lead revolt and eventually sided.with arab abbasid iranian would be still begin enslaved by umayyad..fun fact that those silly iranian of slave guy whom called abu muslim khoursani who had been begin free from begin slave and raised up by arab abbasid family he was just a little preacher for the invasition for abbasid to slave poor khoursani people who begin enslaved by umayyad..
the chief of commander who lead and carried abbasid revolt was arab such as Qahtaba ibn Shabib al-Ta'i and abdallah ibn ali and their general who involed in revolt like mokatel ibn hakam al zidi and Dhu'ayb bin Al-Ash'ath Al-Khuza'i and Hafs bin Omar Al-Muhallabi while they are non persian general but army who were just slave and half army was of arab tribes of syrian and qays and yemeni
A bit inaccuracy in this video after Husayn the house of Ali was succeeded by Ali ibn Husayn zayn al abidin not Muhammad ibn Hanafiyyah.
Edit: Two more mistakes Merv is much further east close to Herat Balkh is further south in present day Afghanistan
There were those who believed in Muhammad ibn hanafiyya and they were the larger group. Twelvers coming up with their cannon as well as becoming the Shi'a majority is a later development.
The KnG channel is just great. Please keep the awesome videos coming.
Great video. I'm always learning a lot from you guys.
Majority of the Muslims still don't consider Iranians true Muslims. They called us ajam or majoos or other insults. Which I'm kind of proud of actually.
Shia only
Muslim are proud of Afghans and Kurds
Its the shia,ajam means mute or non arab speaker
@@fachrulrozi9620 it's Islamic racism. And there's historical records of Muslim leaders calling Iranians derogatory names before Iranians converted to Shia. Just look at how they treated hormuzan who was an Iranian convert and an advisor to omar.
@@arabianinferno6918 what about Iranians? 😂 Majority are still Muslim.
@@esfandiarhoseini8257 Kurds, Afghans, baloch, Tajiks..... are Iranian muslims.
Azeri, Lurs , Shirazis are Shia religion
I would certainly like to see some coverage of Trajan and his his battles. Only Kings and Generals could deliver the very best videos on this subject. I watch your videos over and over every night. Thank you so much.
Thank you for your consideration about Trajan. I'm sure you are quite busy.
Thank you for the great visuals to accompany the history!!
I've been waiting for this
YES! Been waiting for this one! KoG knocking it out the park as usual.
The Ummayads were thoughtless in their cruelty towards the Persians. Instead of letting the Dehqan of Persia be involved in their governance they sometimes attacked and persecuted Iranians and non-Arabs. No wonder they lasted less than 100 years.
@علي ياسر Abu Muslim great Persian warrior , he wanted to destroy the Islamic Kaaba and replace it with a Zoroastrianism Kaaba.
Persian tried many time revolt aganist umayyad ended all of them was failed and many was begin massacred by umayyad..the main reason why umayyad fell due to many arab tribes and arab noble turn aganist umayyad and sided with abbasid which made umayyad became weak and abbasid took advantage
@علي ياسر Yes and Arab became irrelevant a short time after.
Abbasid was controlled by Turk and Iranian ( Like Tahirid and Buyid ).
Mecca was destroyed by the Persian Qarmatian who made the black stone of Kaaba his toilet.
Iranian made Tahirid , Samanid , Saffarid , Buyid , Ghurid , Safavid , Zand , etc...
Arab after Abbasid were jokes.
@علي ياسر Tengri told Genghis Khan to destroy the Abbasid Caliph.
@@IranAzadLoading Abbasid were vassals of Turkic ( Tulinid , Ikhshidid and Seljuk ) and Iranic dynasties ( Tahirid , Buyid and Saffarid ).
Islam's dark ages. We don't know much about it unfortunately. Thank you. From 🇲🇦
Love it. Keep it up KaG, along with Invicta you guys always coming with new interesting documentary which is not "Eurosentris". That is the key why KaG and Invicta are in my top notch
Iranians were the biggest fan of Abbasids dynasty. But after Abbasids take over.. nothing really changed
Why?
The golden Islamic era started during the Abbasid. And during this era Iranian scientists were the leading among the other Muslims, eg. Kharazmi
Things did change
Thus it shows the Caliphates really should have invested into a more stable and contunious system of Inheritence especially in terms of government they were more of a anarchy
the Shura was the best system, but the Umayyads got rid of it, another reason for the discontent
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Was it the Ottomans who invented the harem system or??
How do you mean "a stable and continuous system of inheritance"? How does a person, particularly a medieval absolite monarch, ensure that laws and institutions remain obeyed after their death? In all honesty, that's nigh impossible.
Most of the Medieval world had no such system. Certainly, excepting the meritocratic period of the 5 Good Emperors (which still ended when one of them decided his son should be Emperor), the world had never inherited a stable system from the Romans, which had only limited primogeniture and relied more on force or bribes. Even primogeniture was essentially flawed and subject to internal warfare.
It should be noted that both the Abbasids and the Fatimids were fairly stable at their core. They might not have used the electoral policy any longer, but it would be impossible to genuinely conduct such an election in any real form with such a far flung empire. They depended on dynastic loyalty and allowed localized dynasties more autonomy. The Fatimids endured for a few centuries, and the Abbasids endured until 1258, and even then had a shadow, possibly fake branch under the Mamluks until the 1500's.
In comparison, the Chinggissids, were a medieval dynasty who did utilize electoral means. While they managed to utilize elections among the royal princes, these elections, the Kuriltai, had smaller and smaller turnouts, progressively smaller legitimacy, and were regularly contested. As such, the Empire collapsed within 100 years. Byzantium mixed a series of Roman traditions of senatorial or military acclimation (mostly dependent on charisma and bribery) with periods of stability mostly dependent on primogeniture.
@@TheSamuraijim87
In general, (the caliphate) does not have a fixed approach to moving from a person who was summed up. The first caliph with the return of the death of the Prophet Muhammad Abu Bakr al-Siddiq had recommended while he was dying that he succeed him in ruling Omar Ibn Al-Khattab. As for Omar, when he was dying, he chose 6 of the companions of the Prophet Muhammad and said to consult among them and choose one of them and so on.
Great video again!! I’m waiting for the fifth crusade episode..!!!!
A big turning point in Arabic and Islamic history thanks for mentioning it in the video here waiting for more too
Banu Ummaya are from Qureish and are related to the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). It is just a distant relationship but the family relation is there.
I think he meant Ahlul bayt which they aren't considered a part of .
You forgot to mention the Great Berber Revolt (740-743 AD), which took place before the Abbasid victory over the Umayyads. The Berbers/Amazigh took control of Morocco, as well as the western and central parts of the Maghrib (modern-day Algeria). And so the Berbers/Amazigh ended the tyranny of the Ummayads that had long plagued their lands.
@Mosaab نعم هو Majoirity of Berbers lived outside the Byzantine Empire, Carthage and the eastern coast lines were mainly inhabited by the Latins and Greeks. The Berbers lived in their own kingdoms(Kingdom of Cabaon, Kingdom of Hodna, Kingdom of Aures, Kingdom of Altava, Kingdom of Ouarsenis). So no when you the Arabs came we weren’t oppressed by the Byzantines.
Roman rule was much better than the Ummayads, Berbers had better opportunities in the Roman army than the Ummayad army.
The Caliphate of Cordoba(Ummayad dynasty) only conquered Idrisid Morocco(excluding Barghwata and Sijilmasa Berber states), and that was for a short period of time, the Maghrawa Berbers later reconquered Idrisid Morocco.
The Ummayads never reconquered the Berber Emirate of Ifran, the Berber Imamate of Nafusah and the Persian-Berber Rustamid Imamate
@Kuffar punisher The Caliphate of Cordoba(Ummayad dynasty) only conquered Idrisid Morocco(excluding Barghwata and Sijilmasa Berber states), and that was for a short period of time, the Maghrawa Berbers later reconquered Idrisid Morocco.
The Ummayads never reconquered the Berber Emirate of Ifran, the Berber Imamate of Nafusah and the Persian-Berber Rustamid Imamate
@Mosaab نعم هو "no central leadership before the Arabs came"
LMAO
We had central leadership some periods of time.
Kingdom of Numidia(were not clients but allies of the Romans, but they later became enemies)
Kingdom of Mauretania(they were strongly independent before they became a client state)
These were 2 most famous classical centralized Berber states in the classical period.
The Berbers weren’t taxed by the Romans if they supplied soldiers for the Roman army, compared to the Ummayads they still taxed Berber tribes even if they provided soldiers.
Maybe you should buy classes, in the 7th century the Byzantine empire didn't control much of the Maghreb anymore.
Search kingdom of Altava, Kingdom of Aures, Kingdom of Cabaon, Kingdom of Hodna, Kingdom of Ouarsenis. They were indepented Berber kingdoms untill the Arabs came
@Mosaab نعم هو Better be European than Arab cope
@Mosaab نعم هو Numidia and Mauretania were not Tribal confederations or tribal kingdoms, nor was Kingdom of Altava, Kingdom of Aures, Kingdom of Cabaon confederation or tribal kingdom.
They all started as tribal kingdoms or tribal confederations but evolved into Institutional states.
Numidia was a regional power alongside the Romans after the Punic defeat
Another great video! Keep going.
Very interesting topic! Keep on the good work!!
Excellent video 📹
This revolution still haunts Arabian kingdom (no names mentioned)
A Persian ( no names mentioned) underground revolution/ whispering campaign combined with a massive military effort to come.
All measures to be taken to make sure history doesn't repeat itself.
I watched this as an Arab who studied this several times in school and university.
Very accurate loved it!
Do you think being Arab gives you an authority on knowledge, trust me Arabs are the least of people to understand their history? They have holy, exaggerated and sometimes childish understanding of history, and they rarely read. They just hear what Sheiks say and believe it as it is. Even schools teach one-sided propaganda for the state and the Sect and not real history that can be criticized and analyzed by the students like everywhere in the world.
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Me as an arab doesn’t give me a knowledge advantage, and yes must of what you say is true, or kind of true based on what you saw.
However, what you are saying is drastically changed people don’t believes Shekis anymore.
What you said is completely ture in 2013 or something, not anymore.
I said as an Arab this one is really good, because it covered all sides the one that I studied and my sheeiy friend did, and ehat I read, that’s why I liked it.
We know our history more than you think we do. Time changed, what you are saying is the same stereotype of the camel and us being uneducated, and that is racist.
@@user-hh2is9kg9j all he said was that he studied this in school, why are you so angry and jealous? did an arab guy steal your girl or something?😂😂
Jizyah can't be cause of conversion.... Jizyah was legitimate for the rich or capable non Muslims.... If any rich non Muslim converts into Islam he/she must pay Zakat.... U know zakat...? Muslims also pay extra Tax called Zakat..And it is obvious
This is pretty accurate history. Love this channel.
One of my favouritve topics! Thank you!
Really enjoyable to hear the story of abu muslin of khorasan and black remnants
Abu Muslim great Persian warrior , he wanted to destroy the Islamic Kaaba and replace it with a Zoroastrianism Kaaba.
@@joerogue231 well it's pretty unsure since he killed by Abassids and never had any idea against islam.
But Babak khoramdin is someone who we can count as a persian Zoroastrian. Still destroying kaaba is pretty radical even for him lol
@@PlatonicHesaf He was killed by the Abbasid before he could destroy the Kaaba and made a Zoroastrianism shrine instead.
Abu Muslim was a Persian nationalist.
@@joerogue231 Lmao bruh Why u hating islam ?
@@blacksheep6174 innit, I've seen him do that on more than one comment
Iranic Persian WarriorAbu Muslim al-Khurasani is a controversial character. He is the real founder of the Abbasid caliphate, and he killed more than 600,000 Arabic people to found his state, according to prominent historian Al-Tabari.Ironically, the actual founder of the Abbasid caliphate
Al tabri was born many years after abu muslim was killed how did he know lol
@@murtadhaalkenani3876 Hes telling the fact why you angry
زندهباد بهزاد پور ونداد هرمزد!
Are you proud that he killed 600000 arabs ?
The abasid caliphate although it has the islamic golden age in the scientific and the living standards but it divided the islamic would into many small states and never added new territories as the the umayad caliphate
I always wondered about this whenever the Umayyads came up, which is to say quite often. I did a bit of research, but nothing this deep. Great video.