Stop your Samsung NVMe SSD from Overheating and Thermal Throttling

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  • @ElectronicsComputers
    @ElectronicsComputers  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    I was the first one who made a video about this design flaw, but I'm not sure if I was the first one who noticed this problem. We received a bunch of laptops with fried controller chips on Samsung's SSDs that didn't have proper cooling and the chip didn't even touch the thermal pad. Later, Samsung came up with the 980 PRO with a built-in heatsink. And if you remove that heatsink, guess what you'll see inside? Yes, there will be several thermal pads with different thicknesses, just as I showed you in the video. But they went even further and made separate pads for small chips as well. You can check out the pictures: i.ibb.co/10HwmmQ/980PRO.jpg

    • @cmos64
      @cmos64 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thanks for the video and for showing the thermal pad height difference on a built-in heatsink. I want to point out a worse issue that it still going strong without a single try to be fixed by motherboard manufacturers. Because of the height difference between the NAND and the other chips (controller, ram etc) build-in heatsinks on the motherboards push the M.2 drives down resulting in bent PCBs (google "nvme bent under heatsink" to see pictures of the issue). Different height thermal pads or putty are necessary not only to maintain normal temperature on high load but to avoid damaging the drive physically by applying too much force on one side of the PCB.

    • @KOT-ANGRY
      @KOT-ANGRY 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      OMG, found your video ❤, i have 2x Samsung 970 Evo Plus in my Lenovo laptop and...one disk when im gaming reaches 84C (controller temp), now HWinfo64 is showing 3 temps for these 970 Evo Plus, and 3rd temp is controller (like in your video)! Looked for pads - these 0.5mm costs 26€ for 1 little pad (why so expensive) 😮? I will try my luck in aliexpress mby 😢

    • @KOT-ANGRY
      @KOT-ANGRY 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      P.S. I noticed it ~year ago, now one amigo said that im crazy and these temps are super hot for SSD! A lot of forums here... When i installed it (changed my 970 evo 500gb to this 970 E P 2tb) i noticed that here are height difference on Samsung ssds!!! Thats annormal, Samsung, what are you doing?

    • @ElectronicsComputers
      @ElectronicsComputers  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@KOT-ANGRY There are way better thermal pads nowadays like GELID: alii.pub/6t99o1

    • @othername2428
      @othername2428 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@ElectronicsComputers very helpful and informative, thank-you. I'm curious though, would it be okay to just buy 1 thermal pad only, 0.5mm, and double-stack two 0.5mm pads on top of each other in place of the 1mm section, just to save a bit of money? Or would you highly recommend using the dedicated 1mm pad regardless?

  • @Karel8X
    @Karel8X ปีที่แล้ว +346

    Finally someone with a really good advice who does not force me to watch 20 min video. Big thanks!

    • @ElectronicsComputers
      @ElectronicsComputers  ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Happy to help! Thank you for the comment!

    • @pdazajhon2160
      @pdazajhon2160 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@ElectronicsComputers Appreciate videos like yours, direct and straight to the point, thanks.

    • @Tressie13
      @Tressie13 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Oh yes!!

    • @leonelantonio36
      @leonelantonio36 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Indeed nice video!

    • @videocruzer
      @videocruzer 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yah well clicking for views is what it seems to be all about. if I were to create a video on this topic, I would have opened it showing what kind of data loading and or video editing it takes to get the drive even close to its thermal throttle speed of 80c. as the average users of this kind of hardware will never even get them close to the throttled limits. `if the drives temps were high, they would have been engineered / sold with heat syncs from the factory to ensure customer satisfaction, Ie like the high-end gen 5 drives all seem to have heat spreaders from the factory.

  • @Brisleep1
    @Brisleep1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Thank you! I looked for differences between silicone thermal pads and there really isn't much information on them, I didn't really want to use what comes with a $15.00 m.2 heatsink so this showed me I'm right to get something better.

  • @mrd4233
    @mrd4233 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Thank you so much for the demostration! I am on my way to order this thermal pads to solve the overheating issues!

    • @ElectronicsComputers
      @ElectronicsComputers  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad it was helpful!

    • @kingcobralive3081
      @kingcobralive3081 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ElectronicsComputers on bottom side do we need to apply the 1 mm one or .5 mm one ? Want to install firecuda 530 with heatsink on ps5 ?

    • @ElectronicsComputers
      @ElectronicsComputers  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kingcobralive3081 If that heat sink requires a thermal pad at the bottom of the SSD, then use 0.5mm one. Otherwise I wouldn't use it at bottom of the drive.

  • @pichonPoP
    @pichonPoP ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I just mounted one of this 980pro recently, but didn't realize about that different on surface. I'll update the thermal pad next weeks. Thanks for making this video.

  • @jasonsharen1109
    @jasonsharen1109 2 ปีที่แล้ว +116

    You just solved my mystery, bro. I also have a laptop with Samsung 970EVO Plus which gets hot like hell it even starts to smell like something's melting inside. I replaced the thermal pad twice and it didn't help. Today, I installed two cheap thermal pads 0.5mm and 1mm thick and OMG what a difference. And how as a regular consumer am I supposed to know that Samsung SSDs need two different pads to cool them down properly? Please Samsung tell me.

    • @ElectronicsComputers
      @ElectronicsComputers  2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I'm glad I could help you with your problem.

    • @WarPigstheHun
      @WarPigstheHun ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You can also put a thermal pad on the back of the PCB and place it (gently) against the mobo- the pad is electrically insulated, and the mobo itself is a giant heatsink.
      The m.2 socket is a tiny spring loaded hinge, and it will not break.

  • @swaggerdo7231
    @swaggerdo7231 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you for this great self help improvement. I did not know a Ruskie can be as detailed as a Gerry.

  • @Soawano
    @Soawano 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love the fact that you made a base line stock vs stock + new thermal pads

  • @chronicalcultivation
    @chronicalcultivation ปีที่แล้ว +35

    For most situations where the original pad was 1mm, I needed to use 1mm and 1.5mm. I tried using 0.5mm at first, since thinner is better, but in a few applications this resulted in poor contact with the heatsink, or even none at all. Meanwhile, adding the thickness to the controller side has worked well every time.

    • @ElectronicsComputers
      @ElectronicsComputers  ปีที่แล้ว +9

      You can use any combination of pad thickness that works with your cooling system, but the difference between pads should be 0.5mm just like in your case.

    • @HaywoodCrossJr
      @HaywoodCrossJr 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If you were to do it agian would you do 1mm and 1.75mm? Or does the 1mm and 1.5 work perfect?

  • @g33k98
    @g33k98 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    THANK YOU!!! My 980 Pro running on PCIe4 went from 67 degrees down to 46 degrees after doing this!! :D

  • @user-ui8cw5ep2v
    @user-ui8cw5ep2v 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Everything is clear and understandable. Thank you. I have 970s.

  • @ammoniumhydroxide9739
    @ammoniumhydroxide9739 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This point, that the heights are different, is critical. Good video.

  • @vladislavkaras491
    @vladislavkaras491 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Really short and informative!
    Thanks for the video!

  • @Elberoth
    @Elberoth 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Thanks for the demoinstration. Got those Grizzly pads and was able to level all chips on my SX8200 PRO. Without the extra 0.5mm pad, the controller, which is the chip that actually gets hottest, was not touching the heatsink at all ! For SX8200 PRO, you actually need both 0.5m and 1mm pads - 0.5mm over the controller and 1mm where the SSD board misses a chip (on one side near the pin end).

    • @ElectronicsComputers
      @ElectronicsComputers  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Happy to help!

    • @revanvonheaven8270
      @revanvonheaven8270 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ElectronicsComputers I have a question how do you wrap a Ram card with thermal pads on it and is it okay to slowly untape the brand Crucial per say and paste it on top of the thermal pad or would that just void my warranty not that I care I just want to put thermal pads everywhere doing a huge repasting of my laptop I have never done the M2 and Ram but this was educational thank you!.

  • @uscop7059
    @uscop7059 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great video! Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us.

  •  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    perfect! I had the same problem, thanks to your modification I'm 10 degrees cooler now! Many thousand thanks for this valuable video! :🥳💪👍

  •  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bought some items from your links so I hope I helped a bit.
    Thanks for the video tutorial!

  • @ernestg7466
    @ernestg7466 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Muy interesante que ese pequeño espacio haga la diferencia, gracias por compartir. Saludos.

  • @johncronk1338
    @johncronk1338 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Great video, thanks. I’ll be sure to do this with my laptop. I was wondering if you’ve seen a big difference between thermal grizzly pads and other brands? Are we talking about only one or two *C or is it a bigger difference of say 5*C or more in the delta between stock pads and third party?

    • @ElectronicsComputers
      @ElectronicsComputers  2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      The difference between the expensive and cheap no name pads is no more than 3-5C

    • @alvareo92
      @alvareo92 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Biggest aspect should be durability

    • @drl52488
      @drl52488 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Thermal grizzly always amazes me. You have to be careful buying it though, a lot of Chinese knockoffs out there

    • @reshad711
      @reshad711 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ElectronicsComputers Hello, I have a laptop, I can also install it this way, or which nvme is not enough to warm up. which model will fit.

  • @rumcajs009
    @rumcajs009 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Cheers buddy, this video was awesome!

  • @Misferado
    @Misferado 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Спасибо!
    Раньше не обращал на такие, казалось бы, мелочи внимания.

  • @RoshDroz
    @RoshDroz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I noticed this exact thing on the Kingston Kc3000 and was wondering if I should do something different with the heat sink. Very glad to find your simple solution

  • @AldoApachi-
    @AldoApachi- ปีที่แล้ว +11

    What a great video. I'm currently looking into acquiring a pcie slot for SSD and researching all the needed info.
    Thanks a lot. This was so helpful.

  • @thomas1699
    @thomas1699 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very enlightening. I would not have thought to worry about the different thickness of the chip-set and the controller. I might just pick up a Samsung 980 Pro, (or two.)

  • @MechInfantry2AD
    @MechInfantry2AD ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks alot. You helped me alot with this. Squared away my overheating issues with my new drives.

  • @BrunoSepp
    @BrunoSepp 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Спасибо за видео, очень полезная информация!

  • @DennisUkr
    @DennisUkr 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very useful advice! Thanks for your labor 👍🏻

  • @imakethesites3048
    @imakethesites3048 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is a good follow-up from your "Upgrade your Dell XPS 9500 Series" video, which I followed to upgrade my 9510 with the 980 and am now experiencing even worse heat than I was before!

    • @ElectronicsComputers
      @ElectronicsComputers  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What thermal pads did you use? There's a 0.4-0.5mm difference between chips. So you need to put for example a 1mm pad on the controller chip and a 0.5mm pad on the memory chips.

    • @imakethesites3048
      @imakethesites3048 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ElectronicsComputers I didn't know I needed thermal pads, I just put a heatsink that seems to have one already

  • @hArDsTyLe2259
    @hArDsTyLe2259 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Thanks so much for this! My laptops 980 Pro temps have dropped to 54c on the same benchmark and even after running Samsungs magician benchmark right after the max temp was only 63c!
    It is only on pci gen 3 but still impressive as the m.2 is next to my cpu and only uses a thin aluminium heatsink.

  • @WarPigstheHun
    @WarPigstheHun ปีที่แล้ว +33

    You can put the pad between PCB backside, and against the mobo to act as a heatsink. You can also put a thermal pad on only the controller, that way only the nand flash runs "warm" (meaning between 15-45° C), while the controller stays cool.
    Doing both allows you to cool the components that prefer cooling, while allowing the nand to stay "warm" - nand flash will actually degrade if too cold.

    • @ImDembe
      @ImDembe ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeah, so in theory using a worse thermal pad is the way to go on the flash and a high quality one on the controller for best "durability"

    • @davebing11
      @davebing11 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@ImDembe BS it is NEVER a good idea to run memory hotter as long as you are above -30C. space operations is a totally different story. This is if you are using a real heat sink that moves heat and not a block of metal that is just a heat 'capacitor'

    • @ImDembe
      @ImDembe ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@davebing11 -30c? Nandflash should not be to hot or cold, the controller is always better to have as cool as possible. The data on that was before, im not sure anything els have come out.
      Even if you have a good headsink with active cooling it will still store heat. so the controller will heat up the rest of the components either way. Most people don't need shit anyway, few people do benchmark level stress on a regular basis nor write heavy data daily, for that little group of people they might need to care.

    • @Schanyee2
      @Schanyee2 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      nand flash will perform worse when its colder (not very noticable though) but it will extend its lifespan

    • @HSGG_
      @HSGG_ 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It will never reach the 'too cold' state when you are on earth dude, stop BS LOL

  • @exitspree
    @exitspree 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amazing video. Down to the point, instructive and your way of explaining things is really captivating and clear. Thanks so much!

    • @ElectronicsComputers
      @ElectronicsComputers  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Glad it was helpful and thank you for the comment!

  • @zootopiashow
    @zootopiashow 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing work sir ... just installed Samsung Pro 980 2TB in my PS5 using your technique.

  • @daveroski
    @daveroski 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Great video. I feel it would make sense to do each chip separately. This way the conduction from the hotter controller doesn’t heat up the other chips. This probably isn’t possible in a laptop but in a desktop would be ideal.

    • @Fluvance
      @Fluvance 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      This only makes sense if you have individual heatsinks. But it's actually better to have a large heatsink so that the controller and cache have a large shared heatsink to dissipate into. For SSDs, the heatsinks aren't really for continuous heat dissipation, but more as a temporary heat buffer for short bursts. Because the typical workload involves short burst transfers that will spike the chip temperature for a few seconds, rather than long sustained transfers, in which case your small heatsink included on most SSDs or motherboards isn't nearly enough to handle the ~3W heat output for long periods without airflow.

    • @carlose6010
      @carlose6010 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Fluvance So in otherwords you're saying I'm screwed xD. I want a drive to hold 1tb of gopro 4k footage.. seems transfering this footage the ssd gets hot in my laptop.. Gonna try bumping the fans and see if it'll help nexted time. Atleast once the data is on, it should be ok.

    • @DavidsonLoops
      @DavidsonLoops ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Fluvance it sounds like you know what youre talking about im in hotel now i cant get my tv to work, how i can change the source without the remote working properly on an old phillips tv that hasnt got a source button or full functionally on the device itself?

    • @simont7045
      @simont7045 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DavidsonLoops what ?

    • @TranspireDigitalCenter
      @TranspireDigitalCenter ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@DavidsonLoops Are you still checked-in? I think I can help you with that LOL

  • @paulmiddleton7168
    @paulmiddleton7168 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Without any heatsink and thermal pad, i was pumping up to 98'c when stress testing on my NVMe Samsung 970 pro 1tb. Suprisingly, it has lasted a whole year without a heatsink, but the temperatures for sure, were making me very nervous when i discovered them. So:
    Having now installed a heatsink after buying one, i am down to 75'c max under stress conditions. Still a bit hot, but this is faaaarr more normal, and i can have more confidence that i am OK to push the drive. Definitely invest in a heatsink for Samsung 970/980 nvme's. Knowing what i do now...i am SHOCKED that Samsung did not provide a heatsink with this particular product.
    The temperatures are clearly Dangerous by design.

    • @ElectronicsComputers
      @ElectronicsComputers  ปีที่แล้ว

      Totally agree with you! With such uneven surface design, they should have applied a built-in heatsink (just a custom built copper or aluminum stripe) like other manufacturers do. That would solve the problem.

    • @car3448
      @car3448 ปีที่แล้ว

      What brand cooler did you buy? I am looking at a be quiet m.2 heatsink right now and want to know if yours is better

    • @paulmiddleton7168
      @paulmiddleton7168 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@car3448 I bought a QIVYNSRY M.2 Heatsink from amazon for like £7 (US $9) and it solved all my temperature worries. It was cheap, all i wanted, and did the job.
      Installation difficulty: 1/10 Its super easy to install, as easy as lego bricks. I used the One thermal pad method, and its fine.

    • @teemuvesala9575
      @teemuvesala9575 ปีที่แล้ว

      They are not. I've used 960 Pro for over 5 years without heatsink, still works well and according to Magician the drive is still in perfect health.

    • @iikatinggangsengii2471
      @iikatinggangsengii2471 ปีที่แล้ว

      970 is normal though wo heatsink it maxed at 60s (67 or smth)

  • @DemonsCrest1
    @DemonsCrest1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    thanks for the video. very professional and informative :3

  • @jasonsharen1109
    @jasonsharen1109 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for the solution, bro!

  • @aidenreaper4196
    @aidenreaper4196 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video and thank you for your detailed explanation. In my case, I have a 970 pro samsung nvme in my desktop. Is the procedure the same if I purchase the thermal pads (0,5 & 1)and a EKWB EK-M.2 NVME Heatsink? I am having serious temprature problems with the controller of the nvme.

    • @ElectronicsComputers
      @ElectronicsComputers  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes, 0.5mm and 1mm pads will do the job.

    • @aidenreaper4196
      @aidenreaper4196 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ElectronicsComputers Do I have to buy both? I am using the nvme in a tower not a laptop. I think that you mentioned in the video that a thick thermal pad should do the trick.

    • @ElectronicsComputers
      @ElectronicsComputers  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aidenreaper4196 If your cooling solution allows you to use 1-1.5mm thick thermal pad then in most cases no need to use two thermal pads.

    • @maxhughes5687
      @maxhughes5687 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The location of your m.2 socket will matter also. On the mobo under a GPU is awful. Mounted up on a PCIe AIC the cooler gets more air flow. If you have a GEN4 socket away from other components use that. If you have the clearance an air cooler with heat pipes is best. Or of coarse a Corsair water block is the best solution right now. I agree with E&C match the pad height to the chip height and use the best pads you can find. 12W/kM or 8WkM, standard pads are just 1.5WkM.

    • @Lead_Foot
      @Lead_Foot 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The EK m.2 heatsink already comes with thermal pads with different thicknesses.

  • @101Licious
    @101Licious ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Didn't know about the gap :-/ Thanks man ! Just ordered my pads.

  • @Zen0sa
    @Zen0sa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    nice info thanks! i saw some people complaint about the pro not performing well under heavy load :)

  • @chronicalcultivation
    @chronicalcultivation ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I went to re-pad my desktop and discovered the 970 Evo Plus doesn't measure the same as the 980 Pro. The controller was making contact at the same height as the memory, but with no contact in the middle where all those smaller components are.
    This is in conflict with some other reports of the same model, it may be different for various capacities, or they could have updated the design at some point.

    • @trixniisama
      @trixniisama ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same for me, the NAND and controller of the 970 Evo Plus are at the same height

    • @wc.j3911
      @wc.j3911 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@trixniisamaso theres no need to separate / cut the pads?

  • @TheUnchosenOne
    @TheUnchosenOne ปีที่แล้ว +20

    What actually makes this particularly egregious is that the nand modules actually like being hot while the controller performs best at low temps, so without varying the pad sizes the cooling is super inefficient.

    • @syarifairlangga4608
      @syarifairlangga4608 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think being used already make the Nand hot.
      Except first boot

  • @michaelb.3570
    @michaelb.3570 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi @Electronics&Computers, thanks for the great video. One of the best tutorials in the last decade.
    My question is can and „shall“ I use the 0.5mm Thermalpad method on my samsung oem 980 pro (pm9a1) 2TB and my 980 pro 1tb.
    I am going to use both under the thermal guards (onboard heatsinks) in my desktop gigabyte gaming x z690 ddr5 mainboard. Both heatsinks have pre installed thermalpads by gigabyte. My plan is just to use the cutout 0,5mm thermalpad on the controller side to align with the height of the nands to make it even. The thermalguard of the mainboard with the pre installed thermalpads would then overlap/sync with both the nands and the 0.5mm controller compound. Are u seeing any issues with doing so or any better idea to close the controller gap under a pre installed mainboard heatsink. Thanks in advance.

  • @williamshenk7940
    @williamshenk7940 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent video!! It makes a lot of sense too. Thanks for the information. I have found this problem recently with my Dell XPS. It has been causing me issues. Now, I have it on the run.

    • @ElectronicsComputers
      @ElectronicsComputers  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad it helped! Samsung actually fixed the problem with their SSD heat sink version in the same way: i.ibb.co/10HwmmQ/980PRO.jpg

  • @troilus8286
    @troilus8286 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thanks! I was getting crazy with the choose of the right thermal pad's thickness for the nvme upgrading of my Dell XPS 9370. Are three 0.5 mm pads a bad solution to obtain one of 1.5 mm thick?

    • @ElectronicsComputers
      @ElectronicsComputers  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Don't do that, those 0.5 mm pads stacked together is not gonna perform even close as good as a one 1.5 mm pad.

    • @hikosan7563
      @hikosan7563 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ElectronicsComputers so the more thick it is, the better.

    • @ElectronicsComputers
      @ElectronicsComputers  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@hikosan7563 No! There's 0.5mm difference between two surfaces and that's how you can level it.

  • @SevenDeMagnus
    @SevenDeMagnus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hi. Do you need two heatsinks for M.2 NVME (one for the bottom and one for the top? What's the thickness in mm for both heatsinks?)? And should we remove the sticker for better contact with the thermal pad?
    What's the thickness in mm is the big heatsink you used in this video?
    Thank you.
    God bless, Revelation 21:4

    • @ElectronicsComputers
      @ElectronicsComputers  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The pad for the controller chip is 1mm thick and the pad for the memory chips is 0.5mm thick. There's no need to remove the sticker from the SSD because it will void the warranty and there won't be any dramatic difference in the temperature.

    • @SevenDeMagnus
      @SevenDeMagnus 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ElectronicsComputers You're welcome (on me subbing).
      If it's ok to ask for advise and recommendations, I need a new multimeter. Among my multimeter choices, BSIDE S11 or the S20 which is best for these repair iPhone 5, Wacom Intuos 4 and retro video game consoles specifically the Dreamcast, most don't have power. BSIDE is the brand name.
      When I posted the specs and links here, the TH-cam bot or automatic censoring system blocked it. It can be checked at that popular chinese retail website (my apologies.)
      They have the S10 model which uses AAA.
      You're recommendations are welcome.
      Thank you. Stay safe.
      God bless, Rev. 21:4

    • @ElectronicsComputers
      @ElectronicsComputers  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SevenDeMagnus To me, those multimeters look like some toys. For 25 bucks you can buy more serious tool from the same manufacturer: alii.pub/5yswee
      Or if you wont something more reliable and serious but not expensive then I'd recommend buying one of these:
      ali.pub/5yswl0
      alli.pub/5yswlz

    • @SevenDeMagnus
      @SevenDeMagnus 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ElectronicsComputers Thanks. I'll save up for those. By the way my current multitester's temperature probe won't work anymore. I'm avoiding buying (it take awhile too, to arrive) to lessen the thrash when I throw the broken one. How do you usually repaire a temperature probe (mine is just that braided wire with a rounded ball at the end, not the rod one).

  • @Machistmo
    @Machistmo 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is a GOOD video. No.. Its a GREAT video. Brings a murky problem into specific relief. Concise. Bravo Sir

  • @TheBeardedLibertarian
    @TheBeardedLibertarian 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    thank you, been fighting the heat problem for a few weeks on a new unraid build.

  • @estebanguerrero682
    @estebanguerrero682 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really useful fact man, thanks so much

  • @gutnick
    @gutnick ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent video! Really professional and valuable information! I will definitely subscribe!

    • @ElectronicsComputers
      @ElectronicsComputers  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks and welcome

    • @gutnick
      @gutnick ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ElectronicsComputers I put the blue insulation on top of my SSD, under the aluminum holder. The HWInfo suggests the temperature is remaining low. Thank you! I'm going up change the Trackpad. Does it make sense to put another layer of the blue insulation on top of the aluminum SSD holder? Thank you

    • @KOT-ANGRY
      @KOT-ANGRY 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Me subscribed too! Will look for cheap pads (grizzly costs unbelievable price) 😢

  • @Kneichion
    @Kneichion ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really Helpful, thank you

  • @tarekmahmudbhuiyan7368
    @tarekmahmudbhuiyan7368 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for this great video.

  • @robertrent5218
    @robertrent5218 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow! That tip was well worth kudos ans a subscription. Thanks.

  • @chasugc3740
    @chasugc3740 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is good information about cooling. Thanks.

  • @chrisipad4425
    @chrisipad4425 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks for the useful comparions!

  • @jamesdavidian7717
    @jamesdavidian7717 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bought a 250GB 970Evo in 2018 that just burnt out in 2022.. after hundreds of hours of video editing/adobe aftereffects rendering, etc. It was worth the performance though. Next time, I will add the thermal pads/heat sink. Thanks for the video.

  • @gforce278
    @gforce278 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for the tutorial!

  • @drpeemac
    @drpeemac 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    wow...such a talented fellow ...you jave earned my sub bro...keep it up

  • @kgpcodes
    @kgpcodes 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for the guide. Going through the this now.

  • @TamaTheKaiju
    @TamaTheKaiju 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just got the 970 EVO 2tb installed in my Alienware m15 R4 in the last week and noticed immediately that I was having extreme heat problems. It was even affecting my cpu. I've had to undervolt the cpu by 100.6 to get the temps under control but the 970's Drive Temperature 3 is still running at 76 minimum. It's freaking me out. Thank you SO MUCH for this information. I was worried I was gonna burn out the whole laptop if I couldn't figure it out.

    • @ElectronicsComputers
      @ElectronicsComputers  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, 970 gets really hot. try to use two pads with different thickness. In my laptop I use two 2TB 980EVO and it's a big difference in terms of temperature.

  • @CharlesM236
    @CharlesM236 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Today I found this video again, and after many searches and researching this video is the best way to do it.
    The only thing to think of is that the memory chips don't like cooling they work beter with some heating.🤔
    Well that's what I read.
    Now it's time to see if massive heatsink from ICY box will help my 990 PRO m. 2
    But I am impressed by how good the motherboard Z590-E can cool by design.
    Because my first tryout with a heatsink and fan wash not working, and think this video show why that can be.
    Thank you for the opportunity again to rethinking the best way to apply the heat patches.
    👍💯

    • @ElectronicsComputers
      @ElectronicsComputers  22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you for the comment! I'm happy to help. And don't leave those NAND chips without a heatsink. There are no electronic components that like heat, well, maybe except for electron tubes/vacuum tubes. Even if there's some slight performance boost for a warm chip, which you'll never notice in real life, there's a bunch of other components around that definitely won't be happy with high temperatures.

  • @uc9584
    @uc9584 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    u are legend mate, thanks for upload this video

  • @billcoleman7316
    @billcoleman7316 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for a very good tip.

  • @maguro-_-otoro
    @maguro-_-otoro 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for sharing this. I've been doing this on some of my SSDs after noticing that the controller is almost always a different thickness from the NAND and doesn't make contact with the heatsink.

  • @zyloctal
    @zyloctal 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for the info!

  • @GerardEarley
    @GerardEarley 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video thanks 👍

  • @konker7376
    @konker7376 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow what a great video thank you for help!

  • @jz479
    @jz479 ปีที่แล้ว

    Many thanks. I just installed thermalpads and external radiator on my 970 Evo Plus in Acer Nitro 5 laptop. Maybe the parts were not expensive (ordered from amazon) but the difference is undisputed.
    Now I need repeat in on second disk Lexar NM800Pro, which reguires different thermopads shape.

  • @cristianJoker2512
    @cristianJoker2512 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    wow, didn't expect this

  • @VladLOnFIRE
    @VladLOnFIRE 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    thank you, great video

  • @benlastname6667
    @benlastname6667 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think I'm going to be switching to these pads for my PS5 ssd (firecuda 4tb) with my elecgear heatsink.
    Nice video. Thank you

  • @Kej121
    @Kej121 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I don't know why I end up in this video but I love the fact that this is straight to the point and full of useful informations.

  • @kashonder
    @kashonder หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    WOW that's genius. Thanks a lot brother 😀👍

  • @nickanderson8305
    @nickanderson8305 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't usually like videos. But that was good

  • @jeanyonsei2318
    @jeanyonsei2318 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great Great! Thank you!

  • @NehemiahDC
    @NehemiahDC 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great tips!

  • @jameelal-quraishi5802
    @jameelal-quraishi5802 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    great explaination brother keep it up

  • @crobar1
    @crobar1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting, never noticed this

  • @kracoulcreterion7756
    @kracoulcreterion7756 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Works fine also with 990 - 10% plus in performance for both reading and writing!

  • @konstantindyatlov8782
    @konstantindyatlov8782 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    to see the real difference between the different styling methods, the same thermal spacers had to be used. And it's so easy to advertise the thermal grizzly... But overall thanks for the video.

    • @ElectronicsComputers
      @ElectronicsComputers  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can use any thermal pad you want. They're all pretty much similar. This video was about using two thermal pads on Samsung NVMe SSDs to make a better contact with a heat sink surface.

  • @gertvogelaar
    @gertvogelaar 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Today I installed my Samsung 970 EVO Plus with ELUTENG M2 heatsink on my Z170A MB. At first it ran pretty hot at idle 53C and 65C max. Then I added the second silicon warmth pad and measured again: idle: 47C and 63C max. Still a bit too hot to my taste, but then after closing my PC cabinet the proper airflow was re-established. Now I measured 39C and 54C! So now I am happy. I also installed a Crucial NVMe on a PCI board and that one runs a lot cooler still with the same type of heatsink: 25C idle and 35C max! No additional ventilators needed. The on-board airflow is cooling both NVMe’s more than sufficiently.

  • @RamaOshiLo
    @RamaOshiLo 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    thanks alot, this way so effected

  • @ewenchan1239
    @ewenchan1239 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I've actually ran the computational fluid dynamics (CFD) analysis and found that it is actually better if you cut the thermal pad even further such that EACH of the individual components that needs to be cooled, has is own thermal pad.
    I'll have to check my data, but I think that I vaguely recall the delta being somewhere between 0.5-1.3 C, I think?
    Not huge, in the overall grand scheme of things, but if you want the absolute best performance (measured as the lowest temperature), then having the individual thermal pads for the indivdiual components is the best way to go.

    • @ElectronicsComputers
      @ElectronicsComputers  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Totally agree with you.

    • @MrKentaroMotoPI
      @MrKentaroMotoPI ปีที่แล้ว

      Or how about a row of pin-fin heatsinks, each glued on to the local contour. Far more effective than a flat heatsink.

  • @omeanneo9475
    @omeanneo9475 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow! Great! Thks)

  • @andihaidir9816
    @andihaidir9816 ปีที่แล้ว

    omg...thanks..its really helpful

  • @FXology
    @FXology ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi man! First of all, thanks for the video all answers you gave in comments))
    Also I'm curious, is it acceptable to place two 0.5mm pads on each other, to create 1mm layer?

  • @exercept-mn7sw
    @exercept-mn7sw ปีที่แล้ว

    Just got my hands on a Samsung 970 EVO Plus (1TB) - manufactured 2023-02-22. The NAND memory chips seem to have a lower profile than the ones in your video now, or at least the controller chip + heatspreader and sticker is slightly higher than the memory chips with the ruler test. I understand that the controller chip is the most critical component to cool, and the memory chips are lower by ~0.2mm using a cheap, rudimentary feeler gauge. So there was nothing I felt could be improved with different thermal pads in my situation. Perhaps Samsung have solved this design flaw?

  • @allezvenga7617
    @allezvenga7617 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for your sharing

  • @taskinyucekurt
    @taskinyucekurt ปีที่แล้ว

    Smart way, using them on gen3 also big help. Weird thing is my m.2 slot behind the motherboard which means there is like 3 mm space inbetween case wall and nvme drive. Squeezed to pretty tight spot and i can^t put a heatsink on it anways. Suprisingly its not overheating, i was thinking that thigh spot will keep it more hot, i don't do any render tho but games which is doing realtime render actually but i never see that nvme went over 55 degree yet. Its gen4 works good n cooler on gen3 so i decided to go w/o heatsink or i will put a hole to the case.

  • @CharlesM236
    @CharlesM236 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Coherent and thinking are semantically related.
    Thanks for this great video.
    Since I use the samsung 960 pro I monitor always best with HWiNFO64 version v6.40-4330
    And it irritates me that the samsung Magician is only showing one temp.
    also I have seen many stupid windows updates and stupid virus scans that makes no different at all only higher temps.
    After many tweaks my drive is idle on 47degree....
    But with your solution it's time to make some hardware changes.
    charlesm

    • @ElectronicsComputers
      @ElectronicsComputers  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for the comment 😊

    • @CharlesM236
      @CharlesM236 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ElectronicsComputers greetings from Amsterdam and have a great new year 2022

  • @shiddo123
    @shiddo123 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video :)
    I just want to ask you a quick question. In your video you used Grizzly minus 8 thermal pad stickers. They have a thermal conductivity which is 8 m w/k. Also there is Arctic thermal pad stickers and they have a thermal conductivity which is 6 m w/k. I have an Alienware 17 r5 laptop and I want to put thermal pad stickers and a heatsink on a Samsung 980 pro.
    8 m w/k will transfer heat faster to the heatsink than 6 m w/k but I was told that you need an ideal environment which has excellent airflow to take advantage of the faster heat transfer and the heatsink will get rid of the heat fast because of the excellent airflow. My environment is not ideal because of the weak airflow to the nvme ssd area so the heatsink will get rid of the heat slower for me so there is no need for the heat to quickly reach the heatsink so it's ok if I use the arctic thermal pad sticker. Is what I said correct? I am worried that if I use the Grizzly thermal pad sticker then the heat will quickly escape from the nvme ssd but I may end up with a hotter heatsink because the heat will slowly leave the heatsink due to the weak airflow.
    Which thermal pad sticker shall I get?

    • @ElectronicsComputers
      @ElectronicsComputers  ปีที่แล้ว

      Both will work perfectly but I'd still go with 8m w/k. it's an optimal thermal transfer conductivity for a regular passive heat sink. If you'd have a liquid or air cooled heat sing then I'd go with even higher thermal conductivity.

  • @yuzuruvevo869
    @yuzuruvevo869 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing video!

  • @JonaFuentes
    @JonaFuentes 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Would you recommend this installation for an Asus Vivobook 15 k513ea?

  • @arjunsamuel
    @arjunsamuel 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi where did you get the heatsink form your Dell laptop?

  • @slueepy
    @slueepy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you do this to WD SN750 SSDs? I wonder if the sizes of thermal pads required would be different

  • @daviddong3351
    @daviddong3351 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Which type of heatsink should I get on my laptop that can pair well with thermal grizzly? My laptop is asus zephyrus g15.

  • @theexace
    @theexace ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wowww .....
    What a great information

  • @osamah.mohamed3629
    @osamah.mohamed3629 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for your informative Video, I have 970 evo plus 2TB and become overheated up to 63C on disk mark test. My motherboard is Gigabyte Z790 elite ax D4 and i am currently installing this M.2 on the second slot. Do you recommend to replace the current thermal pad with thicker pad that could does better like Thermalright ODYSSEYⅡ2mm 14.8w/mk or stick to your method and size (0.5mm & 1.00 mm). your advised is highly appreciated.

    • @ElectronicsComputers
      @ElectronicsComputers  ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't think that you can put 2mm pad under that heatsink. The higher thermal conductivity the harder the pad. So it may not be properly compressed. The optimal solution is 1mm and 0.5mm pad for those SSDs. But don't use Grizzly pads there's way better solutions nowadays. We switched to GELID Solutions gp-ultimate 15W/MK: alii.pub/6oz44c

  • @edgarsnezinu1439
    @edgarsnezinu1439 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks man who even thought ...

  • @cubanhlg2050
    @cubanhlg2050 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very useful video

  • @abdullahalotibi8014
    @abdullahalotibi8014 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey bro , i just found your video and it was extremely helpful thank u❤.. Quick question: what if i used the same thermal pads thickness that u used, but instead i cut it in the shape of the controller , dram size would it be better ? Or just using your way and saving my time?

    • @ElectronicsComputers
      @ElectronicsComputers  ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't think it will male any difference but the thermal pad should always overlap the component it cooling.