I think that's the point: they want to leave it for the fans to make their own conclusions. It's refreshing seeing movies that don't give everything away and leave things to the imagination.
@@windowbewbs9064 Um, Pablo & Wheeljack are separate characters now, it was confirmed. & RotB Optimus didn't really change too much & I love Optimus in BBM & RotB!!!
Never noticed at 2:55 until now that you can hear how afraid drop kick and shatter are in their voice especially when their voice quivers when they realize Optimus prime is coming to earth.
@@tosiftasbin8203 Different Optimus. This Optimus would say "Stand down. I will not ask a second time". If anything happens like in RotB that 100% requires Optimus to be a little more brutal in his fighting style, then so be it. Killing is his last resort, if all else fails. But, normally, this Optimus wouldn't be that brutal. Think back in RotB, Optimus's fighting style in the beginning was perfectly fine & not too brutal, then later Scourge came & mopped the floor with him, mocked him, & killed one of his sons (Bee & Mirage are Optimus's sons in RotB, you can't deny it), so to Optimus, in that moment onward, being a little more brutal in his fighting style was absolutely necessary & he was very ticked off cuz of what Scourge did. But, in the future of the Knightverse, Optimus most likely will be like how he was in BBM & the beginning of RotB (fighting wise).
Considering before the flashback is over we can see Prime strike that iconic Bayverse pose, it's safe to assume most seekers were put offline by Prime's murderous survival instinct
Killing is his last resort, just look at RotB! Optimus was fighting as Optimus should, then Scourge mopped the floor with him, mocked him, & killed his son (Bumblebee is Optimus's son in RotB, you can't deny it), so he HAD to be the way he was later on in RotB. But, he will probably be at least a little like he was in BBM & beginning of RotB (fighting wise) in the next movies!
@@fennekin1750or or bumblebee is Prime apprentice as it always had been and he just witness one of his close friend and comrade killed in front of him that he swore to protect as all other autobots
@@draketimmons684 Or that. But, if you see how Optimus acts towards Bee & Mirage in the film, it makes Optimus seem like a father. Remember the line, "I do not want you to go to that drive-in theater anymore", which basically sounds like, "Bee, you're grounded". Or any of the lines from Optimus to Mirage. Idk thats just how I see Optimus in RotB.
@@fennekin1750While I do agree, the son part doesn’t seem realistic. Bumblebee was the entire reason the Autobots survived, so it was reasonable he’d let loose on Scourge when he was killed.
@@krystallinekandied That, too! But, Bee does feel like an almost son to Optimus, Imo & I just want to add to my earlier point abt Optimus's fighting style in RotB, just cuz. If you can see in Optimus's fight with Battletrap in the Final Battle, judging by the way he moves towards the end of it makes it look like he was abt to stab Battletrap in the chest, just a simple stab, then Primal interfered & smashed him to pieces, adding to the point that Optimus isn't very brutal in this universe, even with everything going against him in the movie. I noticed this on my 2nd watch of the movie more recently (I don't remember when)
A moment in the film I wished we had a deleted scene for the MOST. Always wondered what strategy he used to get away. I’d like to think he fought some off, got overpowered, then some remaining Autobots ran in to reinforce, allowing him to drive off. Those couldn’t be 100% of the Autobot force that evacuated. And if some stayed behind, their first instinct would be to protect their leader. Allowing him to proceed with the bigger mission to help establish the new base on Earth. 💙❤️👀🤔🎥
I see this as a great opportunity to kill two birds with one stone here. Cullen has mentioned he wants to do a standalone Optimus Prime film. Fans want to know how Optimus escaped Cybertron. Give us a film set almost entirely on Cybertron showing us what all he had to do to survive. This could also tie in and show fans a little more info on why Prime seemed so broody and melancholy in Rise of the Beasts (yes they gave us an explanation, but this could show more to us other than just homesickness). Peter Cullen in sadly not getting any younger, and even though it's been nearly five years between movies, we're still only two in so far. Give fans that perspective movie while also letting the Legend himself get his wish.
Prime killed every enemy while screaming "I'll take you all on!" like he did in revenge of the fallen chills literal chills just thinking about it (dual energon blades all the way)
@@christianparrish3292ohh I saw him in a ep 2 days ago , I watched g1 ep about optimus primes orgins , he appeared in that , it's cool he can transform into a quite literal rocket, I also wanna see ultra magnus in a live action movie
@@guywith39subsbig robot whos sometimes the size of devastator and also transforms into a rocket base A rocket base that just magically appears out of thin air
Something interesting I discovered in Bumblebee. There are 13 Autobots in the movie. Optimus Prime, Bumblebee, Ratchet, Ironhide, Brawn, Arcee, Cliffjumper, Wheeljack and 5 others that you glance but are nearly impossible to tell who they are.
Very interesting indeed! Wonder who those remaining 5 could/would be! & do you think its possible that an Autobot took command on Cybertron while Optimus & the others fled to Earth? I think its possible, I'm thinking either Ultra Magnus or Elita-1 took command, or maybe both!?
Didn't Travis Knight want Megs in the movie, but he couldn't add him in? & I saw on another Theorymus vid, a comment who said basically, iirc, maybe Megs was attacking the Autobot Capitol, the one Arcee was talking abt when she said "I lost contact with the Capitol!". I think that sounds very believable & realistic story-wise in BBM & RotB. & I REALLY hope we see Megs in his FULL G1-esque glory in TF3 (after TF2/RotB)!!!
Your theory sounds right. It sounds right because when Bumblebee was in space, we can see more pods but in different locations, not in the same area where Bumblebee is
Despite this ROTB Optimus and Bayverse Optimus are different, the two have one thing in common... that being "Prime Rage", the one thing we saw in Dark of the Moon...
I made a short fan film explaining my own opinion on how it happened. I had it stated he didn’t win that battle and was captured. He later escaped and took a personal-secret escape pod
I personally think Optimus prime fought as much as he could, but lost the fight and got captured. But eventually he escaped sometime after and fled to earth
ngl, wish they couldve provided more info on how he managed to escape. My theory is that 1) Optimus was indeed captured and sent to Kaon as per Megatron's request, my idea of how he escaped is by taking reference of the Kaon Prison chapter in the War for Cybertron game. He possibly escaped Cybertron by either sabotaging/destroying a Decepticon outpost within Kaon and took an escape pod to cover his getaway. A possible reason that Shatter and Dropkick seem afraid of Optimus coming to Earth is due to their belief that he escaped Kaon and took down an outpost all by himself. 2) He escaped Kaon then proceeded to link up to Iacon or one of the Autobot bases
What I wanna know, is what the heck happened to Sam Witickey after Dark Of The Moon! But still, thank you for breaking this down for me to understand how he escaped, your my favorite Transformers YT channel
I just assumed he got captured, but then escaped, cuz as beast as movie optimus always is, I don't believe he can take on 50 decepticons at the same time
And also even though we don't see Megatron it's fair to assume he would show up in the encounter eventually and I find it hard to believe that he'll be able to kill 50 Decepticons including Shockwave and many other strong Heavy Hitters and then surviving Megatron.
You can also see in the bumblebee movie in that one shot of bumblebee escaping, multiple other pods are exiting the planet so that further straightens the old theory
My theory is there is another autobot who still in Cybertron when Optimus is surrounded by decepticons (i personally think Metroplex/Omega Supreme help him) and i think there are some autobots who sacrifice themself to made Optimus escape Cybertron
Idk if someone already commented this before. But if there’s gonna be a what if scenario. What if in 2007 Transformers if Arcee did get to be part of the movie without being cut and remade in the second movie as Arcee twins? How would her role be like if a way of saving Jazz’s life from Megatron or what? I wondered if the writers did made a script about it but cut it and rewrite it?
Considering we can see presumably pods fly from multiple points of origin, it’s reasonable to assume there were more pod bays with leftover pods or unused as that front got wiped out
Have you seen the How It Should Have Ended for Bumblebee? In that hilarious video Bumblebee askes Prime about it after he meats up with him and Optimus tells the story. He was surrounded when he used a "look over there" distraction and took cover. Than while hiding he sees the corpse of a Decepticon and wears the pieces. He than directs the Decepticons away while in disguise and escapes. It's hilarious, you should totally watch it 😂
It would be interesting to ponder about. In my head, Optimus most likely didn't manhandle 40+ Decepticons then and there. He must've gone to Decepticon jail first. He would get a cell for himself, and when he gets put on death row, he outmaneuvers his executioners and coordinates a long and sneaky escape with what Autobots he could find. Realizing his goons are not good enough to fight Optimus, Megatron stepped in and dueled the Prime. Optimus was losing, and he quickly secured a Decepticon transport together with what Autobots he was able to rescue. The prisoners fled Cybertron but scattered, and many of them died along the journey. Then Optimus crashlanded onto the Earth and tried to find as many fellow Autobots as he could to prepare for Megatron's probably-inevitable arrival. Dunno, I'm a big WFC/FOC fan (you can see that my route blends together the Kaon Prison mission and the Great Exodus), but I think it fits.
It’s be cool in the next transformers movie if it shows his escape scene and we see Megatron for the first time and see them fight and then showed what the Decepticons did after the fall of Cybertron
I bet Optimus beat up many Decepticons, killed some (the nameless Seekers, ofc), & failed against some, like Shockwave, Soundwave, Starscream, etc, made an opening, then transformed, drove off to another Autobot base, then escaped in a pod to Earth. Fast forward a tiny bit to the ending of BBM, 7 yrs later in RotB, & now we're waiting for whats next for the 3rd movie! & GREAT vid Theorymus!! Loved it! Keep up the great work!! Thx for this VERY in-depth & amazing vid! 'Til all are One!! & Theorymus, could you do a theory on if Optimus has the Matrix of Leadership in this new rebooted continuity (BBM & RotB, ofc), I think he does cuz it'd makes sense & I could easily imagine him getting it at some point before BBM's Cybertron scene. & Considering that the Great War is implied to have started not too long ago cuz of the fact the Decepticons call the Autobots a resistance & the Autobots call themselves a resistance, too, so it would just make sense for the War to start abt 1 millon yrs, more or less, before BBM's Cybertron scene, instead of abt 4 or more million yrs. & Optimus could've easily gotten the Matrix at some point between the beginning of the War & BBM's Cybertron scene. & I think it'd be really cool for Optimus to already have had the Matrix for a little while & uses it to defeat Unicron in TF4/last movie in RotB's Unicron Trilogy. Mainly considering the fact that the Matrix is the only thing that can stop Unicron in G1 & probably other continuities as well! It'd be cool for you too make a vid abt it! Like if you agree!
Great vid. Something that bothered me after watching Rise of the beasts is why in the name of primus did they change wheeljack sooooo bad. I honestly forgot he had a brief appearance in bumblebee until seeing him in this vid and i remembered he had his G-1 form so like the heck?!
I was honestly suspecting him to become corrupted to becoming Nemesis Prime to be a sleeper agent or something until they actually showed how he survived when I first saw how surrounded he was. But then obviously if Megatron is still on the planet he might wanna keep him alive as a prisoner or kill him personally. So that made my old suspicions crumble.
I hope a new movie can breifly go back to this scene, it would be neat if Elita One and the other autobots saved one last escape pod for him or something to explain how he's on Earth with the others but she seemingly isnt.
Looks like Skywarp and Thundercracker are in the frame with Soundwave, Shockwave, and Ravage but they could just be generic seekers that look like them. I just really want a movie with G1 styles where we get all of the Decepticons and Autobots we grew up with in the first season of G1
This Was An Amazing Video! This was a Question I've Always Wondered and Just Imagining Optimus using his Sword and Hand Cannon Fighting Against 64 Decepticons
I think what happened is that Optimus was properly beating everyone who rushed him, so soundwave calls for a retreat and shatter and drop kick escape. Optimus doesn’t pursue fearing that they will reach earth so he too tries to find a way to get to earth before them.
I really wished after the maxiumals flashback. We have a small flashback Of optimus escaping. In his ship, he calls in the Autobots about earth with hope and panic in his voice... Then cuts to prime with transit.
A problem I've had with a lot of transformers iterations is they don't seem to get scale or logistics right. They don't seem to understand how big planets are, how large the population of Cybertron must be, how vast space is, how long tens or hundreds of millions of years is, etc etc. Point is there should have been hundreds or thousands of ships on or leaving Cybertron, at the time and to this day, not just one big one like in Bumblebee or Fall of Cybertron.
Its simple, he escaped because he is Optimus Prime
Your right
YES!👍
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Plot armor lol
He is optimus the freaking prime he always come back whenever he’s dead
Despite how much I loved the Bumblebee movie, I was always bothered by the fact that they never explained it. Thank you Theorymus!
Yea Ty
I think that's the point: they want to leave it for the fans to make their own conclusions. It's refreshing seeing movies that don't give everything away and leave things to the imagination.
I love BBM too! It was SO good! By far the BEST TF live-action movies ever are BBM & RotB, by a landslide!!
@@MrAwsomeness360So you like major plot holes?
@@fennekin1750BB is the worst movie.
My personal theory: Metroplex saved him and took him to another nearby autobot base
yeahhh
Sheeesh 😂
I would imagine he's doing that similar to how metroplex made his entrance in fall of Cybertron
Or Omega Supreme? Omega is also an Option, But Metroplex is Bigger and cooler.
same with me but i say omega supreme
Taking on 46 Decepticons, winning, and escaping. Prime is literally that one teammate who hard carries you every match
It’s like round 20 on escalation
He might be a little bit more powerful than Bayverse Prime, but less brutal
@@casadevaughn7323bayverse might be stronger since bayverse Prime can fly.
I still can't get over how perfect Prime's design is in Bee's movie, like daaaaaaaaaaaaamn.
A shame they changed it, Wheeljack too. Like, you had perfect, PERFECT, designs that everyone loved, and you just threw them away
@@windowbewbs9064 Um, Pablo & Wheeljack are separate characters now, it was confirmed. & RotB Optimus didn't really change too much & I love Optimus in BBM & RotB!!!
Never noticed at 2:55 until now that you can hear how afraid drop kick and shatter are in their voice especially when their voice quivers when they realize Optimus prime is coming to earth.
They really got a nice beating from Prime
Optimus prime : STAY DOWN OR GIVE ME UR FACE 😈
@@tosiftasbin8203 Different Optimus.
This Optimus would say "Stand down. I will not ask a second time". If anything happens like in RotB that 100% requires Optimus to be a little more brutal in his fighting style, then so be it. Killing is his last resort, if all else fails. But, normally, this Optimus wouldn't be that brutal. Think back in RotB, Optimus's fighting style in the beginning was perfectly fine & not too brutal, then later Scourge came & mopped the floor with him, mocked him, & killed one of his sons (Bee & Mirage are Optimus's sons in RotB, you can't deny it), so to Optimus, in that moment onward, being a little more brutal in his fighting style was absolutely necessary & he was very ticked off cuz of what Scourge did. But, in the future of the Knightverse, Optimus most likely will be like how he was in BBM & the beginning of RotB (fighting wise).
You know, I actually hear that now. I originally thought they were eager to kill all the Autobots that were coming to Earth
They had a front row tickets
Considering before the flashback is over we can see Prime strike that iconic Bayverse pose, it's safe to assume most seekers were put offline by Prime's murderous survival instinct
Killing is his last resort, just look at RotB! Optimus was fighting as Optimus should, then Scourge mopped the floor with him, mocked him, & killed his son (Bumblebee is Optimus's son in RotB, you can't deny it), so he HAD to be the way he was later on in RotB. But, he will probably be at least a little like he was in BBM & beginning of RotB (fighting wise) in the next movies!
@@fennekin1750or or bumblebee is Prime apprentice as it always had been and he just witness one of his close friend and comrade killed in front of him that he swore to protect as all other autobots
@@draketimmons684 Or that. But, if you see how Optimus acts towards Bee & Mirage in the film, it makes Optimus seem like a father. Remember the line, "I do not want you to go to that drive-in theater anymore", which basically sounds like, "Bee, you're grounded". Or any of the lines from Optimus to Mirage. Idk thats just how I see Optimus in RotB.
@@fennekin1750While I do agree, the son part doesn’t seem realistic. Bumblebee was the entire reason the Autobots survived, so it was reasonable he’d let loose on Scourge when he was killed.
@@krystallinekandied That, too! But, Bee does feel like an almost son to Optimus, Imo
& I just want to add to my earlier point abt Optimus's fighting style in RotB, just cuz. If you can see in Optimus's fight with Battletrap in the Final Battle, judging by the way he moves towards the end of it makes it look like he was abt to stab Battletrap in the chest, just a simple stab, then Primal interfered & smashed him to pieces, adding to the point that Optimus isn't very brutal in this universe, even with everything going against him in the movie.
I noticed this on my 2nd watch of the movie more recently (I don't remember when)
A moment in the film I wished we had a deleted scene for the MOST. Always wondered what strategy he used to get away. I’d like to think he fought some off, got overpowered, then some remaining Autobots ran in to reinforce, allowing him to drive off. Those couldn’t be 100% of the Autobot force that evacuated. And if some stayed behind, their first instinct would be to protect their leader. Allowing him to proceed with the bigger mission to help establish the new base on Earth. 💙❤️👀🤔🎥
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Wait, what!? How did you write this!? This is awesome!! & it makes SO much sense!! Good job, man!
Optimus is just built different, That’s why he is a Prime!
I would've said "born different" but he actually is built I forgor
He's got the dawg in him
@@ClaudeSpeed32 whether this Optimus was born or built is still unknown since his origins have yet to be explained
He Was Rebuilt into Optimus by Alpha Trion. Idk if that's just G1 Cannon or everywhere else.
I like to think he flew out of there, because shatter and dropkick would be dead if they tried to fight optimus
Optimus likely prioritized escape, but still killed most of them on his way out.
I see this as a great opportunity to kill two birds with one stone here. Cullen has mentioned he wants to do a standalone Optimus Prime film. Fans want to know how Optimus escaped Cybertron.
Give us a film set almost entirely on Cybertron showing us what all he had to do to survive. This could also tie in and show fans a little more info on why Prime seemed so broody and melancholy in Rise of the Beasts (yes they gave us an explanation, but this could show more to us other than just homesickness).
Peter Cullen in sadly not getting any younger, and even though it's been nearly five years between movies, we're still only two in so far. Give fans that perspective movie while also letting the Legend himself get his wish.
This was an Absolutely Amazing Theory for how Optimus Prime escaped from Cybertron.
46 Decepticons vs One True Prime. I couldn’t have respected Prime more for this
Takes the line “I take you all on!” to another level
I was always curious how prime survived
Simply put.... He fought his way out. What a legend.
I don’t think you noticed but at 4:39 you see other escape pods which are too far to be from the same platform.
I was expecting a how it should have ended reference when optimus distract the deceptions and then disguise himself as one
Got that idea from HISHE 🤣🤣
Kickback-imus Prime!!
He escaped because he’s Optimus Prime, simple as that.
Maybe one day, we'll *_FINALLY_* get an official answer...
Probably not though. 🤣
Maybe a short film, abt 20-40 mins!?
Prime killed every enemy while screaming "I'll take you all on!" like he did in revenge of the fallen chills literal chills just thinking about it (dual energon blades all the way)
It would be awesome if we see Omega Supreme in live action.
I like to see that too man
Who's that
@@guywith39subs he's an autobot. A big autobot that appeared in the 80s. Look him up.
@@christianparrish3292ohh I saw him in a ep 2 days ago , I watched g1 ep about optimus primes orgins , he appeared in that , it's cool he can transform into a quite literal rocket, I also wanna see ultra magnus in a live action movie
@@guywith39subsbig robot whos sometimes the size of devastator and also transforms into a rocket base
A rocket base that just magically appears out of thin air
Another great video bro good to see the channel doing well as I haven’t watched it in a while
If I’m ever having a bad day and Theorymus uploads, then everything will be just a bit better :)
I only just realized that Shatter + Dropkick were also in the scene (0:05)
Something interesting I discovered in Bumblebee. There are 13 Autobots in the movie. Optimus Prime, Bumblebee, Ratchet, Ironhide, Brawn, Arcee, Cliffjumper, Wheeljack and 5 others that you glance but are nearly impossible to tell who they are.
Very interesting indeed! Wonder who those remaining 5 could/would be!
& do you think its possible that an Autobot took command on Cybertron while Optimus & the others fled to Earth? I think its possible, I'm thinking either Ultra Magnus or Elita-1 took command, or maybe both!?
Thank you for explaining this, I’ve always wondered this for so long, now my thoughts are put to rest
I really do hope we get to see the rest of the transformers in the sequel
I like to believe that right as the scene ends the Matrix does some super saiyan type shit and paralyses all the decepticons around him
Ngl, that intro is epic, no joke
Thank you for making this video because this has been on my mind for a very long time
Glad I could help!
It would've been cool if Megatron was present during the fall of Cybertron.
Sadly we didn't see he's own g1 design
Didnt he was shockwave(or starcream)gun ?
Since he could transform like he did in g1
Didn't Travis Knight want Megs in the movie, but he couldn't add him in? & I saw on another Theorymus vid, a comment who said basically, iirc, maybe Megs was attacking the Autobot Capitol, the one Arcee was talking abt when she said "I lost contact with the Capitol!". I think that sounds very believable & realistic story-wise in BBM & RotB. & I REALLY hope we see Megs in his FULL G1-esque glory in TF3 (after TF2/RotB)!!!
Wonderful explaining. You did amazing counting the Decepticons in that flashback scene of Bumblebee.
I think he took forever to count
@@jamsworldtv2621 I wouldn’t have the patience for it lol 😂
I was wondering that since I watched it. Bit of a shame he couldn't retrieve his ion blaster
Your theory sounds right. It sounds right because when Bumblebee was in space, we can see more pods but in different locations, not in the same area where Bumblebee is
at 0:18 you can see Shatter and Dropkick at Optimus back
Despite this ROTB Optimus and Bayverse Optimus are different, the two have one thing in common... that being "Prime Rage", the one thing we saw in Dark of the Moon...
Decepticons: We have you surrounded!
Optimus Prime: All I’m surrounded by is fear, and dead men.
I made a short fan film explaining my own opinion on how it happened. I had it stated he didn’t win that battle and was captured. He later escaped and took a personal-secret escape pod
Thank you for explaining this, I’ve always wondered this originally, I just thought “he’s Optimus the freaking prime”
Rebot prime : I am friendly and like the og
Bay prime : give me your face
Also Reboot Prime: the humans shall not be trusted
Also Bay Prime: were we so different? they are young species, they still have much to learn
I always wondered this, thanks for the explaination!
Nice video as always Theorymus!
I personally think Optimus prime fought as much as he could, but lost the fight and got captured. But eventually he escaped sometime after and fled to earth
TFI Creations beat you to it, dude.
In my headcanon Optimus didn't have any extra weapons on him at the time and boxed his way through all 46 Deceptions
I always thought about how Optimus prime survived, yet I would have never guessed that
Now do a theory about why wheel jack change his name and appearance
Today is my first day of school so I couldn't watch this when it popped up, but now it's lunch time and I can watch this
2:24 the scourge scene was personal af
HISHE talked about this topic in their Bumblebee video pretty funny too🤣😭
Prime be like:
“46 of you, 1 of me…I like those odds.”
Weren’t Starscream, Thundercracker, Skywarp, Thrust, and Blitzwing charging at Optimus while having to the Decepticons?
Cool video! I really enjoyed!😃
I cannot belive you have come this far
Keep up the good work Theorymus
ngl, wish they couldve provided more info on how he managed to escape. My theory is that
1) Optimus was indeed captured and sent to Kaon as per Megatron's request, my idea of how he escaped is by taking reference of the Kaon Prison chapter in the War for Cybertron game.
He possibly escaped Cybertron by either sabotaging/destroying a Decepticon outpost within Kaon and took an escape pod to cover his getaway. A possible reason that Shatter and Dropkick seem afraid of Optimus coming to Earth is due to their belief that he escaped Kaon and took down an outpost all by himself.
2) He escaped Kaon then proceeded to link up to Iacon or one of the Autobot bases
I think the reason Shatter and Dropkick were afraid because of the beating Prime gave em
What I wanna know, is what the heck happened to Sam Witickey after Dark Of The Moon!
But still, thank you for breaking this down for me to understand how he escaped, your my favorite Transformers YT channel
I just assumed he got captured, but then escaped, cuz as beast as movie optimus always is, I don't believe he can take on 50 decepticons at the same time
And also even though we don't see Megatron it's fair to assume he would show up in the encounter eventually and I find it hard to believe that he'll be able to kill 50 Decepticons including Shockwave and many other strong Heavy Hitters and then surviving Megatron.
Good video man
Glad you enjoyed
You can also see in the bumblebee movie in that one shot of bumblebee escaping, multiple other pods are exiting the planet so that further straightens the old theory
My theory is there is another autobot who still in Cybertron when Optimus is surrounded by decepticons (i personally think Metroplex/Omega Supreme help him) and i think there are some autobots who sacrifice themself to made Optimus escape Cybertron
I love how at 2:40, they throw in the nod to Primes attack on Autobot City
Theorymus: Whatever prime had to in that fight had to be crazy
Me: *Remembers Bayformers prime*
Idk if someone already commented this before. But if there’s gonna be a what if scenario. What if in 2007 Transformers if Arcee did get to be part of the movie without being cut and remade in the second movie as Arcee twins? How would her role be like if a way of saving Jazz’s life from Megatron or what? I wondered if the writers did made a script about it but cut it and rewrite it?
Megatron: how did you fight off nearly 50 deceptions while cybertron had fallen!?
Optimus: it's simply really *coughs* I'm just better than you
This would be a great prequel movie to bumble bee and actually show Megatron and people will finally know it’s a reboot since he wouldn’t be frozen
Dude I was so excited when you uploaded
Considering we can see presumably pods fly from multiple points of origin, it’s reasonable to assume there were more pod bays with leftover pods or unused as that front got wiped out
Have you seen the How It Should Have Ended for Bumblebee? In that hilarious video Bumblebee askes Prime about it after he meats up with him and Optimus tells the story. He was surrounded when he used a "look over there" distraction and took cover. Than while hiding he sees the corpse of a Decepticon and wears the pieces. He than directs the Decepticons away while in disguise and escapes. It's hilarious, you should totally watch it 😂
It would be interesting to ponder about. In my head, Optimus most likely didn't manhandle 40+ Decepticons then and there. He must've gone to Decepticon jail first. He would get a cell for himself, and when he gets put on death row, he outmaneuvers his executioners and coordinates a long and sneaky escape with what Autobots he could find. Realizing his goons are not good enough to fight Optimus, Megatron stepped in and dueled the Prime. Optimus was losing, and he quickly secured a Decepticon transport together with what Autobots he was able to rescue. The prisoners fled Cybertron but scattered, and many of them died along the journey. Then Optimus crashlanded onto the Earth and tried to find as many fellow Autobots as he could to prepare for Megatron's probably-inevitable arrival.
Dunno, I'm a big WFC/FOC fan (you can see that my route blends together the Kaon Prison mission and the Great Exodus), but I think it fits.
Prime: "Wait!"
Decepticons: "What?"
Prime: "Look there!"
Decepticons: "Where?!"
Prime: "Bye-bye!"
Great explanation and thanks for this awesome theory Theorymus
No problem!
Ok before the video starts I already know the answer
He played I'm still standing
How did he get to earth before the other Autobots if he left way after?
Is this your first dedicated video for a theory on this new trilogy? Or am I missing something? This will be another banger video!
You know, I like to imagine right before Optimus gets surrounded by the Decepticons he does something crazy, finds an escape pod and escapes.
"Prime is coming here" oh he is so shocked and and how his voice quivers 😂😂
My personal headcanon: He had "Elton John - I'm Still Standing" playing full-blast on his systems.
Thank you for these videos Theorymus, I love you!!!❤❤❤❤
Bro you are really pumping these out
It’s be cool in the next transformers movie if it shows his escape scene and we see Megatron for the first time and see them fight and then showed what the Decepticons did after the fall of Cybertron
"ILL TAKE YOU ALL ON"
4:16 the Autobots in 1-5 2007 and 2017 were still also technically rebel soldiers
It's really Simple, Theorymus.
Optimus has the Touch.
I bet Optimus beat up many Decepticons, killed some (the nameless Seekers, ofc), & failed against some, like Shockwave, Soundwave, Starscream, etc, made an opening, then transformed, drove off to another Autobot base, then escaped in a pod to Earth. Fast forward a tiny bit to the ending of BBM, 7 yrs later in RotB, & now we're waiting for whats next for the 3rd movie!
& GREAT vid Theorymus!! Loved it! Keep up the great work!! Thx for this VERY in-depth & amazing vid! 'Til all are One!!
& Theorymus, could you do a theory on if Optimus has the Matrix of Leadership in this new rebooted continuity (BBM & RotB, ofc), I think he does cuz it'd makes sense & I could easily imagine him getting it at some point before BBM's Cybertron scene. & Considering that the Great War is implied to have started not too long ago cuz of the fact the Decepticons call the Autobots a resistance & the Autobots call themselves a resistance, too, so it would just make sense for the War to start abt 1 millon yrs, more or less, before BBM's Cybertron scene, instead of abt 4 or more million yrs. & Optimus could've easily gotten the Matrix at some point between the beginning of the War & BBM's Cybertron scene. & I think it'd be really cool for Optimus to already have had the Matrix for a little while & uses it to defeat Unicron in TF4/last movie in RotB's Unicron Trilogy. Mainly considering the fact that the Matrix is the only thing that can stop Unicron in G1 & probably other continuities as well! It'd be cool for you too make a vid abt it!
Like if you agree!
Nice Theory man
IT NOW MAKES SENSE WHY PRIME DIDN'T HAVE HIS BLASTER
Great vid. Something that bothered me after watching Rise of the beasts is why in the name of primus did they change wheeljack sooooo bad. I honestly forgot he had a brief appearance in bumblebee until seeing him in this vid and i remembered he had his G-1 form so like the heck?!
His plot armor protected him
I was honestly suspecting him to become corrupted to becoming Nemesis Prime to be a sleeper agent or something until they actually showed how he survived when I first saw how surrounded he was.
But then obviously if Megatron is still on the planet he might wanna keep him alive as a prisoner or kill him personally. So that made my old suspicions crumble.
never thought i’d hear “Optimus” and “pickle” in the same sentence
I hope a new movie can breifly go back to this scene, it would be neat if Elita One and the other autobots saved one last escape pod for him or something to explain how he's on Earth with the others but she seemingly isnt.
Ty for telling me I got so confused during that part
Looks like Skywarp and Thundercracker are in the frame with Soundwave, Shockwave, and Ravage but they could just be generic seekers that look like them. I just really want a movie with G1 styles where we get all of the Decepticons and Autobots we grew up with in the first season of G1
Because Optimus is HIM
I watch your video like 5 times don’t know why
This Was An Amazing Video! This was a Question I've Always Wondered and Just Imagining Optimus using his Sword and Hand Cannon Fighting Against 64 Decepticons
My theory on how he escaped the circle of deceptions is that he cleared out a small section for him to transform or run on out of there
What happened to Ironhide we never saw him in ROTB when we see him using an escape pod?
I think what happened is that Optimus was properly beating everyone who rushed him, so soundwave calls for a retreat and shatter and drop kick escape. Optimus doesn’t pursue fearing that they will reach earth so he too tries to find a way to get to earth before them.
I really wished after the maxiumals flashback.
We have a small flashback
Of optimus escaping.
In his ship, he calls in the Autobots about earth with hope and panic in his voice...
Then cuts to prime with transit.
A problem I've had with a lot of transformers iterations is they don't seem to get scale or logistics right. They don't seem to understand how big planets are, how large the population of Cybertron must be, how vast space is, how long tens or hundreds of millions of years is, etc etc.
Point is there should have been hundreds or thousands of ships on or leaving Cybertron, at the time and to this day, not just one big one like in Bumblebee or Fall of Cybertron.