A video about Megatron.

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  • @RoadRustle
    @RoadRustle  ปีที่แล้ว +670

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    • @kusoteitoku1010
      @kusoteitoku1010 ปีที่แล้ว +7

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    • @DemBaddBonez
      @DemBaddBonez ปีที่แล้ว +3

      🦖: I loved your voice over dude. 👍🏻 I had to subscribe & blow up that notification bell with the fusion cannon, in brutal fashion I might add... 😈

    • @user-hc9qv9yb9m
      @user-hc9qv9yb9m ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Megatron is the leader of the Decepticons. Optimus Prime is the commander of the Autobots

    • @Hoshionifumo
      @Hoshionifumo ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I guess, we dont talk about beastwars?

    • @brianjordan3841
      @brianjordan3841 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Frank Welker: I Am Megatron Leader Of The Decepticons
      Everybody Else: We Stand In The Presence Of Greatness Y’all, WE’RE NOT WORTHY, WE’RE NOT WORTHY

  • @gameandmoviecommunity5757
    @gameandmoviecommunity5757 ปีที่แล้ว +2201

    Optimus Prime: Ones worth is not determined by the circumstances of their birth, but being alive is enough to be considered worthy, everyone is worth something .
    Megatron: Once worth is not determined by the circumstances of their birth, but by their accomplishments, Only the ones strong enough to fight can be considered worthy.

    • @DavidSilva-mn4dz
      @DavidSilva-mn4dz ปีที่แล้ว +206

      That's the difference between a despot and a wholesome basketball dad

    • @starsteve4143
      @starsteve4143 ปีที่แล้ว +121

      Those two quotes describe these two views perfectly

    • @KevinJohnson-cv2no
      @KevinJohnson-cv2no ปีที่แล้ว +70

      "Being alive is enough to be considered worthy." Yet the weak constantly have their existence rendered forfeit whenever they come upon a force of more power/strength than they. Can you ever be deemed "worthy" of something that can basically be taken away at a moments notice, at the behest of another? The only thing that justifies existence is power, because it is the only thing that maintains it.

    • @anjaneyasreetrout2444
      @anjaneyasreetrout2444 ปีที่แล้ว +113

      @@KevinJohnson-cv2no The problem with that kind of world-view is that it often leads to mass conflicts. If power was the only thing that justified existence then the very concept of a "civilization" would have ceased to exist.

    • @mistyrains939
      @mistyrains939 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      ...you mean One's worth not once right? 😐

  • @frozarburst6350
    @frozarburst6350 ปีที่แล้ว +2450

    Finally someone talks about one of my favorite villains in fiction. Very strange how niche transformers is considering how many continuities it has yet people only know of the films

    • @fenixfelixx
      @fenixfelixx ปีที่แล้ว +192

      Honestly let's keep it niche. It's one of the last IPs that hasn't been ruined beyond repair recently. A few bumps along the way is fine but if it became too mainstream all you would get are empty block busters with hardly any plot and live service video games.

    • @frozarburst6350
      @frozarburst6350 ปีที่แล้ว +73

      @@fenixfelixx if the Bay formers films are one prime example of that, I think you're absolutely right

    • @anakinlowground5515
      @anakinlowground5515 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      @@fenixfelixx so you're saying we'd get Bayformers again if it ever got too popular?

    • @fenixfelixx
      @fenixfelixx ปีที่แล้ว +74

      @Anakin Low Ground No I'm saying that you'll get that and other garbage just as bad and nothing else, you know like Marvel, or Star Wars.

    • @LegendzPlushStudios
      @LegendzPlushStudios ปีที่แล้ว +8

      What? The movies are like the most underrated tho

  • @usedtissuepaper42
    @usedtissuepaper42 ปีที่แล้ว +756

    I like the theory that Optimus’ motto “freedom is the right of all sentient beings” originally came from Megatron. It shows how he used to be a revolutionary with a noble cause before his descent into evil.

    • @andrewgreeb916
      @andrewgreeb916 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +51

      People sure do love aligned continuity Megatron.

    • @Dukesparrow1999
      @Dukesparrow1999 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

      In other words, he was once a good man who eventually became corrupted with evil and all that's left of the good man that once was is Optimus' motto which is sad when u think bout it

    • @bored_potato
      @bored_potato 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      Either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain

    • @occam7382
      @occam7382 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@andrewgreeb916, and for good reason. He was awesome in that continuity.

    • @TheAnthonyMarlowe
      @TheAnthonyMarlowe 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yeah that’s leftism for you lol.

  • @returnedtomonkey8886
    @returnedtomonkey8886 ปีที่แล้ว +498

    Prime megatron was so hardcore that he brought HIMSELF back from the dead.
    Also Starscream's testimony was one of the best roasts i've ever seen in any piece of fiction I've ever seen.

    • @Mike_Dubo
      @Mike_Dubo ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Wasn't it Unicron who brought him back?

    • @returnedtomonkey8886
      @returnedtomonkey8886 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      @@Mike_Dubo I'm talking about that time in season 1 when possesed bumblebee to get a dark energon shard to get himself back from the coma.

    • @Mike_Dubo
      @Mike_Dubo ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@returnedtomonkey8886 Ah

    • @occam7382
      @occam7382 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      @@returnedtomonkey8886, and his first line after returning from the dead: "Decepticons! Your rightful lord and master has returned!" He knows Starscream is to blame for his previous condition, and right off the bat, he's making it clear to everybody that HE is the leader of the Decepticons, not Starscream. I love that sh*t.

    • @therediodeerman5811
      @therediodeerman5811 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I guarantee that the latter is top ten best moments in Starscream's life, he went right for the pride, too bad he was wrong about Megatron's intellect being average.

  • @izzy3166
    @izzy3166 ปีที่แล้ว +611

    Loved the Megatron from Transformers Prime. He was ruthless, cunning, while showing no fear in battle.

    • @magma_fire_bagwan
      @magma_fire_bagwan ปีที่แล้ว +102

      Plus honestly his design is a perfect mix of the G1 and Bayverse movies designs

    • @izzy3166
      @izzy3166 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@magma_fire_bagwan Didn’t like his shark teeth though. Lol

    • @magma_fire_bagwan
      @magma_fire_bagwan ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @Izzy 3:16 okay fair. I think those were part of the Bayformers design, but still made it to the Prime design so that he could have an extra intimidation factor besides personality

    • @izzy3166
      @izzy3166 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@magma_fire_bagwan He was already imposing/intimidating without those Bayformers shark teeth lol.

    • @izzy3166
      @izzy3166 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@dicezart9667 The voice fit that particular Statscream design. Chris Lata will ALWAYS be the man, when voicing Starscream. RIP Mr Lata!

  • @TeryJones
    @TeryJones ปีที่แล้ว +616

    1:03 - Ah yes, one of the most iconic villains in fiction and he turns into the most rudimentary most basic most purest forms of humanity's instinctual capacity for violence. Beauty in simplicity doesn't even begin to describe it.

    • @hurpderp1430
      @hurpderp1430 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @Yourmissingfatherwenttothemilk what are you referring to, what did they change?

    • @PulseAnimations878
      @PulseAnimations878 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@hurpderp1430 Megatron isn't a gun anymore for the most part.

    • @mariano98ify
      @mariano98ify ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Your missing father how does that work? Now it is just instead of turning into a pistol from being the big one to lead the Decepticons to then turning into a handgun it is not well translated into a toy a movie or an interactive game. Only the original series he turns into a handgun even Starscream could handle.

    • @trence5
      @trence5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @Your missing father I grown to like Megatron turning into a tank. Like the gun, it could also be consider an symbol for war.

  • @Zap_Master99
    @Zap_Master99 ปีที่แล้ว +613

    Originally during the production of Generation One, Soundwave was supposed to be the original supreme leader of the decepticons, in fact, there's a rumor that the deception symbol was based on Soundwave's face.

    • @Qwerius_
      @Qwerius_ ปีที่แล้ว +176

      The decepticon symbol IS based on soundwave's head.

    • @Cdr2002
      @Cdr2002 ปีที่แล้ว +105

      @@Qwerius_and the Autobot symbol Prowl’s face

    • @xshadowx32hd66
      @xshadowx32hd66 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Qwerius_ I thought it was based on Tarn's head

    • @starsteve4143
      @starsteve4143 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      @@xshadowx32hd66 no in real life back in the 80s The Decepticon symbol itself was based off SoundWaves head

    • @noz48a2
      @noz48a2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Tarn is so jealous

  • @AegisRick
    @AegisRick 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +48

    Optimus: "You would put Cybertron at the center of the Universe!"
    Megatron: "Cybertron IS the center of my universe. How is it not the heart of yours?!"
    I really do love that interaction in Transformers Devastation.

  • @killingragethrowback
    @killingragethrowback ปีที่แล้ว +187

    Megatron is the perfect definition of "Sympathy for the Devil". It's amazing that an alien robot can be so HUMAN.

    • @Kryors
      @Kryors 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      You know this just goes to show that as long as there is sentience in an organism, war is pretty much inevitable.

  • @valmid5069
    @valmid5069 ปีที่แล้ว +121

    *Megatron is a great antagonist-even Hasbro believes his name is too scary*

  • @CaptainScorchMane
    @CaptainScorchMane ปีที่แล้ว +577

    A key factor of Megatron turning into a gun in his early incarnations is that the Decepticons' vehicle modes often - beyond a few exceptions - were tools of war or other carnage, whereas Autobots often turned into things that would help people or serve several purposes.
    Trucks can tow things. They can carry things. They can move people around.
    Planes can travel to places, and perform air shows. They fly in sequences and move people around just like trucks.
    Cars can race, they move people around, and they're part of humanity's ultimate, primal desire to just go faster.
    But tanks? Fighter jets? Battleships? A *gun?*
    Whilst you could argue their merits in other roles, they're fundamentally built for a single, primary purpose:
    Kill.
    Even from a young age, kids will look in awe at trucks and racing cars. They're amazing pieces of big machinery, and kids love those.
    But in any country - even one like 80s America - the gun is symbol of terror for most people. Yes, there's uses for guns that aren't criminal, and I daren't pretend I'm going to start a 2A argument here.
    But if you show most members of the public a truck, they'd be fine.
    Show them a gun, and a very specific air of discomfort QUICKLY sets in.

    • @FirstNameLastName-fe2tu
      @FirstNameLastName-fe2tu ปีที่แล้ว +104

      With the most evil creation...a tape player.
      It has killed millions. Maybe billions.

    • @Meshamu
      @Meshamu ปีที่แล้ว +61

      @@FirstNameLastName-fe2tu The rhythm *_is_* going to *_get you_* .

    • @HellishSpoon
      @HellishSpoon ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Im pretty sure most kids think tanks and jets are way cooler than 4 wheelers, a child isn't gonna look at a toy gun and be afraid, he would want to own it.

    • @IEatDogShit
      @IEatDogShit 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@HellishSpoon This entire argument gets thrown out the window when you realize transformers were designed to be toys and not political statements

    • @hushpuppy1735
      @hushpuppy1735 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@FirstNameLastName-fe2tu is that soundwave

  • @Blizzardfire
    @Blizzardfire ปีที่แล้ว +189

    "If the world thinks you are a monster, what does it matter? The world is wrong. But when you think of yourself as a monster..." Is probably my favorite Megatron quote. I've always liked the idea of "every villain is the hero of their own story" so I really like that IDW explore what happens when a villain goes so far that he can no longer reconcile his own actions.

    • @shishineraoiba
      @shishineraoiba 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah it was the line that hit me the most about Megatron there

    • @zaidkadri786
      @zaidkadri786 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      That quote shows a lot how the world works

  • @windindi2834
    @windindi2834 ปีที่แล้ว +312

    My favorite ending to Megatron's character is easily Transformers Prime. At the end of the movie, Optimus seals away Unicron and all the evil energy into the Matrix of Leadership, leaving only Megatron left to be alive and upgraded. Starscream tries to convince Megatron to return to his evil ways where he contemplates and yells out, "NO!"
    Starscream says, "But...why?"
    After staring at Optimus Prime for a few minutes, he says the best thing I've ever heard.
    "Because I now know the true meaning of oppression, and have lost my taste in inflicting it."
    He CHANGED, scared by being used and controlled, something he sought for and seeing first-hand how what he sought after wasn't at all what he envisioned and sought to banish himself off to a far away place, showing that Optimus Prime was correct all along, that anyone can indeed change and that his heart was in the right place all along. THIS is to me, the greatest end to Megatron.

    • @bored_potato
      @bored_potato 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

      I would also like to imagine that he spent a far longer time in there with Unicron than what was shown in the movie, like it's almost as if he was literally in hell and got a taste of the fraction of suffering he inflicted on others for countless eons.

    • @occam7382
      @occam7382 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      Still think it's kinda weird, 'cause Megatron had previously known what oppression was like, being a slave and all, and that was his primary motivation for founding the Decepticons. But yeah, aside from that weirdness, it was a perfect ending for him.

    • @DipperPines1986
      @DipperPines1986 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      His death at the end of Season 3 was also a very powerful moment.

    • @SPTX.
      @SPTX. 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      That's the sloppiest shit I've read this week.
      "I don't want to be bad because I felt bad"
      Who writes this shit? The only thing that would make it even worse is if his eyes started glowing blue instead of red.

    • @rowlandp6314
      @rowlandp6314 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@SPTX. I don't think you read a lot than.

  • @filipvadas7602
    @filipvadas7602 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    Even though I'm a sucker for the classic fun but simple villains who don't need a complex backstory, I *firmly believe* that the way Megatron's character was slowly rewritten is part of what gave the character so much longevity.
    The idea that Megatron was once Optimus's friend , someone who earnestly fought for freedom and equity on Cybertron, only for his pride, spite and frustration to slowly corrode his ideals and turn him into everything he hated is *brilliant!*
    It also makes Megatron's rivalry with Optimus that much more *personal.* In Megatron's mind HE earned the Matrix of Leadership, HE deserved to be a Prime and not some data clerk who had never picked up a weapon or had to fight for anything in his life.
    But the *best* interpretations are also ,in my opinion, the ones that explore Megatron when the war is over and he inevitably loses or his worldview is shattered or he sees that he was in the wrong all along. Because where does he go from there? You can't redeem him and just killing him isn't enough.

  • @optimascrime5235
    @optimascrime5235 ปีที่แล้ว +179

    Megatron is one of the best main villain's of all time right next to Darth Vader,Joker,Thanos and Lord Voldemort

    • @CelltheGREAT
      @CelltheGREAT ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Major facts

    • @Warlord_Megatron
      @Warlord_Megatron ปีที่แล้ว +8

      You do have a way with words, optimus.

    • @optimascrime5235
      @optimascrime5235 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @Warlord Megatron What can I say,No great hero is without a great villan...Batman and the Jok er for example

  • @omeralasqah8289
    @omeralasqah8289 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    If he’s that hungry, I could get him a big Mac

    • @GeorgioArmoni
      @GeorgioArmoni ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Then he'll turn into a MAC-10

  • @HORRIOR1
    @HORRIOR1 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    Calling Megatron's fall a Walter White Esque fall into villainy is backwards, as Megatron Origin came out in 2007, where as Breaking Bad started in 2008.

  • @Achieme
    @Achieme ปีที่แล้ว +200

    What is amazing about Megatron is that he's an iconic 80s villain and in a majority of his incarnations he believes what he is doing is right when it's evil. It's like a morality debate thing. The WFC game is my personal favorite version, he has that loud threatening authoritative voice that demands respect because you fear him, my favorite moment is when he challenged omega supreme while saying "do your worst"
    As much as I love the Bayverse Megatron I hated how they treated him like a side piece for the main villain after the 07 film, plus the films hardly tackle on the relationship between him and Prime. He honestly just the oh I'm evil just because, again i love the films but he doesn't necessarily feel like Megatron

    • @shcdemolisher
      @shcdemolisher ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Yeah the WFC and FOC games really did do him right.

    • @sub-zero5433
      @sub-zero5433 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      too bad hasbro makes kids shows so none of those themes are explored beyond the surface

    • @SakurakoLover
      @SakurakoLover ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bayverse Comics did exploded their relationship and Megatron's fall to Sacrophagus Fallen which led creation of Decepticons

    • @orga7777
      @orga7777 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      The films are poopy when it comes to the characterization for ALL the Autobots and Decepticons.

    • @djspectrebolt8450
      @djspectrebolt8450 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      I mean the bayverse doesn't really let any of the cybertronians have much character outside of Bee and Optimus

  • @dragonsword2253
    @dragonsword2253 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +100

    I don't see how TFP's "redemption" for Megatron was confusing. It wasn't as if he suddenly had a 180 change in personality or view. Unicron just tortured him so badly that he realized "holy shit this is what I've been doing to people for years this sucks" and he renounced his warmongering

  • @thejurassicshow5928
    @thejurassicshow5928 ปีที่แล้ว +281

    This video is such a Huge step forward in terms of your editing and storytelling

  • @DavidSilva-mn4dz
    @DavidSilva-mn4dz ปีที่แล้ว +441

    To me it's hard to redeem Megatron and the rest being okay about it. What if Megatron change his ways but is still ostraside by Cybertron due to his crimes. If Megs decides to exile himself an being a force for good in an alien planet would be nice. Fighting his demons far away. He either dies as a villain or lives alone trying to repent

    • @dillpickle06
      @dillpickle06 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Isn't that prime wars Megatron?

    • @friskybitzboi
      @friskybitzboi ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I get what your saying but something like that only makes sense if someone who is unlike Optimus or Rodimus is in charge of what happens to him, it’d be out of character for either of them to tell Megatron to simply fuck off and not seek redemption

    • @dillpickle06
      @dillpickle06 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@friskybitzboi So what your saying is that we need Sentinel Prime for that to work out?

    • @friskybitzboi
      @friskybitzboi ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@megatronleaderofthedecptic6003 We’ve seen him canonically several times give Megatron some grace, especially in continuities where they were close before the war- however WFC and Bayverse Optimus would probably tell him to fuck off or would just kill him

    • @MrUriel2015
      @MrUriel2015 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ¿ Like in the end of Transformers Prime ?
      ¿ Or maybe in Transformers Earth Spark ?

  • @fantasykaijugeeks5452
    @fantasykaijugeeks5452 ปีที่แล้ว +196

    The storytelling of Megatron, what is a wonderful masterpiece of all his incarnations of so far. And with the transformers earthspark and Legacy on the horizon, I cannot wait to see which transformer you will break down for us next.

  • @lionprimeproductions110
    @lionprimeproductions110 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Thank god someone talks about Megatron everyone thinks he is just a stupid villain when actually he has a very complex story behind it

  • @LapisLazuliVA
    @LapisLazuliVA ปีที่แล้ว +147

    Ngl, I was the biggest Optimus Prime kid growing up, but as years passed I kinda began favoring megatron. Don’t get me wrong, Optimus is great, but megatron is just so fascinating to watch overall. Least for me anyway. This was a great watch indeed, this and the cybertron games video have me excited to see what else you cover in the future. Keep up the great work my dude

    • @shcdemolisher
      @shcdemolisher ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Yeah. I myself am an Optimus supporter, but even I appreciate Megatron’s methods and mentality since it is one told time and again through history. Oppressed rising up against oppressors.

    • @concept5631
      @concept5631 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      ​@@shcdemolisher And then becoming even worse then his oppressors.

  • @0pt1tr0nD27
    @0pt1tr0nD27 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    RoadRustle to earthspark: let him cook LET HIM COOL

  • @JamiesonHorton
    @JamiesonHorton ปีที่แล้ว +21

    It's interesting that a simple collection of transformable robot action figures for children became this complex Shakespearean drama.

  • @SonGoku-rf5wy
    @SonGoku-rf5wy ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Megatron is my favorite go to villain too. It’s just something about someone who’s so delusional that they are right in a war they started that they make others refer to them as “Lord” and will stop at nothing to achieve dominance. Unicron my be the ultimate evil for the Transformers franchise but Megatron to me is that ultimate evil. There is nothing more dangerous than someone who thinks he’s right and will do anything to prove it

  • @kennethsatria6607
    @kennethsatria6607 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    I really hope the movies can reach that level of depth seen in the IDW comics, even if it has the length of time to give it weight as a story I think its not impossible for Megatron to step off his destined path and have it be convincing and powerful for his image as a character.
    Though it would be nothing less of a miracle to see in movie form we do have a fondness for the villain as a villain too.

  • @mattparsons8914
    @mattparsons8914 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    I prefer pure evil megatron over the version with a redemption but I’m glad you liked it :)

    • @RoadRustle
      @RoadRustle  ปีที่แล้ว +28

      I prefer it too but I am open to new stories

    • @mewmew2722
      @mewmew2722 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Me too.

    • @KevinJohnson-cv2no
      @KevinJohnson-cv2no ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DomFortress And yet forces of nature consume each other and slaughter without end. Each organism is driven by the selfish prerogative to consume resources and eliminate opposing organisms in a self-interested bid for survival.
      Whether you slap the name "evil" on it or not means nothing. The world is ruthlessly selfish; and Megatron being a man of pure, ruthless ambition with no intent of redemption is about as "natural" as you can get. Did Alexander need redemption? Did Caesar?

    • @eu29lex16
      @eu29lex16 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Pure evil or no reason is just stupid.

    • @eu29lex16
      @eu29lex16 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@megatronleaderofthedecptic6003 I never heard of the guy and i makes no difference, they are still stupid and I bet that if I check that guy that he has a backstory.
      So no, being pure evil without a reason is idiotic.
      Also, being pure evil WITH A REASON is also good and possible and its what happens most of the time.

  • @RictusHolloweye
    @RictusHolloweye ปีที่แล้ว +44

    I particularly like how he transforms into a weapon that must be wielded by someone else. He could end most battles very quickly by transforming, but it means relinquishing control to another, which he is loath to do.

  • @endman105
    @endman105 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    Megatron/Galvatrons death in Cybertron was probably the single most satisfying death for his character because he was a TOTAL and COMPLETE asshole. Someone so evil that he was willing to watch the entire universe be devastated so he could recreate it in his own twisted image. And if you include the comics which showed the black hole would've destroyed the MULTIVERSE, Galvatron's actions would've devastated everything, genocide on a multiversal scale. That's why his death why so satisfying.

  • @AtlasTorment
    @AtlasTorment ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Probably one of my favorite characters of the entire franchise. I like it when they give depth to his motivations, instead of just making him a power-hungry lunatic. It makes him far more interesting in my opinion.

  • @HORRIOR1
    @HORRIOR1 ปีที่แล้ว +107

    I can't say that IDW Megatron Spotlight makes me hate him.
    It showcases why he was the leader of the Decepticons from every angle.
    He is powerful, awe inspiring (in both ways), fully aware of everything going on around him and his troops.
    He created the Decepticons and led them 4 million years.
    He whole-heartedly believed in his causes and was honest about his ambitions, which even the mind reading Soundwave acknowledged.
    Always 10 steps ahead, in every direction.
    As for the abuse he delivered on Starscream, fully deserved. Megatron was all but dead, and Starscream took over in the ways Megatron despised the most.
    He then led the Decepticons into ruin in just 3 years, while failing to even off-line Megatron.
    Eventually he was so crushed by his own dreams failing that he just wanted Megatron to kill him, but Megatron, who had had HIS dream destroyed by Starscream, showed him that Starscream still wanted to live.
    And the most interesting part in all this, had it not been for D-void interfering, this version of Megatron most likely would have won.
    His and Shockwave's plan to take the autobots by surprise was genius, his powered up new body being powered even further up to a point where he could take down something stronger than a titan. Honestly the Autobots would have stood no chance.

    • @KadenKenz
      @KadenKenz ปีที่แล้ว +41

      I fully agree with you on all of these statements. Except the Starscream part. As much I loved Megs in Spotlight, he was _absolutely_ in the wrong in this situation.
      Yeah, he was allowed to be angry. Pissed, even. Cause Screamer failed his troops. But what Megs did was monstrous.
      Megatron was, and is, *not* in the right for beating and humiliating Starscream like he did. He was ruthless; making sure to instill fear into Starscream and the other Decepticons just to gain their “loyalty” again. Megatron went up to Starscream-expecting a fight-but once he saw how utterly _crushed_ Starscream was, realised how *genuinely* suicidal he was. He bristled. Went on to taunt Starscream, reminding him of all his failures, mockingly chanting *“All. Hail. Starscream.”* fully pushing him to the edge… until he snapped. Making Starscream retaliate; just so he can justify chasing and beating him to a pulp. And even after _alllll_ of that, he charged up his cannon, giving Star hope. He’ll finally end his misery! ..Only for him to shoot elsewhere. The amount of psychological damage that does to a person is nothing short of terrible.
      You have to keep in mind that Starscream was genuinely trying his best to lead. But alas, nobody would just listen to him. (Nobody ever DID listen to him.) The Decepticons growing weaker and more desperate-to the point of being driven to cannibalism!-all because they were too scared to listen to Starscream. *Too* scared of Megatron.
      And Megatron didn’t show Starscream that he still wanted to be alive. He didn’t pull the metaphorical wool out of his eyes, like some all-knowing leader. He quite literally beat the fear of death into the guy. Again.
      Megatron convinced Screamer how he doesn’t *_want_* death. How he just needs to be *_punished._* How they can only rule effectively *_together..._* he used Starscream’s depression to twist him back to serving him. Megatron gave him purpose in the cruelest way possible. And it was all because Megatron wanted to *_dominate_* and *_abuse_* Starscream like usual.
      The even worser part? Starscream was the one to save Megatron’s life in the first place. _What a fun way to be thanked, huh._
      While yes, he did save Starscream’s life. Yet it was for all the wrong, wrong reasons.
      And the fact that this is a huge factor to Megatron rethinking his ways, realising how he lost himself-lost the meaning of his original cause, and renouncing his Decepticon ways to become an Autobot. Just really speaks volumes.
      Even Megatron found Megatron’s actions disgusting.
      P.S. there’s also a significant difference between IDW Starscream and other Starscreams; he never wanted to just, usurp Megatron. He never thought he was a better fit leader for the Decepticons just because of his inflated sense of ego. No, It was only until he realised just how INSANE Megatron was that he knew he wanted to be the one leading.
      He was nothing but loyal before concern began to cloud his judgment.

    • @trence5
      @trence5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I think IDW comics was aimed toward adults, who or may not have grown up with the show. So making a "moustache twirling' villain wouldn't go over, so I've always thought this was done to make a more rounded character. Hardly anyone considers themselves "evil" in their own mind. I kind of got the impression Megatron had to keep an air of "biggest, baddest dog in the yard", lest anyone dare depose him because he commanded 'Cons, a few some would consider worse than him.

    • @berilsevvalbekret772
      @berilsevvalbekret772 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tge second you said Starscream who had been tortured by that cunt for MILLIONS of years you lost all the credibility.

    • @concept5631
      @concept5631 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@KadenKenz Well said.

    • @FurinaDeFontaineSimp
      @FurinaDeFontaineSimp ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KadenKenz didn’t the matrix of leadership literally thought screamer was worthy as a leader

  • @nickel-bolas951
    @nickel-bolas951 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    "Rodimus. Whatever happens next - whatever my fate - I deserve worse."
    IDW05 Megatron will go down in history as perhaps the most whole, complete, and nuanced version of Megatron ever; a deeply flawed individual almost completely lost in his own ambitions who finally manages to achieve that dream he first fought for, not for himself, not to save his own life, but as the last kindness he can do before he faces justice for his immeasurable crimes. Able at last to move towards peace.

    • @theorcamafia
      @theorcamafia 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Megatron2005 I agree however I also would like to point out that nuanced villains do also have their own place. Walter White is the best example of this as his downfall was nuanced.

    • @theorcamafia
      @theorcamafia 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Megatron2005 I thought in the IDW show he answers for his crimes by being killed himself

    • @theorcamafia
      @theorcamafia 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Megatron2005 it's clear that his actions caught up with him tho

  • @InfiniteJexulus
    @InfiniteJexulus ปีที่แล้ว +13

    One of my favorite ends to Megatron comes in Armada. It’s one of the continuities where the Autobots and Decepticons reluctantly team up to fight Unicron, but after it seems to be all over, still in the bowels of Unicron, Megatron refuses to let go of his feud with Optimus, even after everything. And, for once, Optimus relents. He renounces his responsibility as leader of the Autobots and indulges in a brutal, personal final battle that almost undoes everything they just worked for. It’s only at this precipice does Megatron realize what he’s done and sacrifices himself to stop Unicron from being resurrected.
    It’s my favorite ending to Megatron because of all the ones that end with Optimus vs Megatron, this is the one that succeeds in bringing Optimus down to his level, if only for a moment.

  • @gem9535
    @gem9535 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I wish we got to see Megatron after Prime. He was apparently supposed to come back as a bounty hunter in RiD 2015, and his design was awesome.

  • @Luke-lg4vx
    @Luke-lg4vx ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Just played the cybertron games on ps3 after watching your 3 hour video. So immersive so glad I got to experience them and that I never sold my PlayStation 3. I enjoyed these games together more than GoW ragnarok

  • @DrickRT
    @DrickRT ปีที่แล้ว +6

    18:40 "...so we'll let the, cook."
    that silly statement with that voice sounds so threatening it's amazing lmao

  • @Comkill117
    @Comkill117 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I definitely agree that while it can come off as silly sometimes, G1 Galvatron after the movie could be pretty terrifying if you think of him in universe. He also was probably the harshest in the cartoons when it came to dealing with non-Autobot characters as he saw no value in any of their lives, with a favorite example of mine being shortly after he’s reintroduced and appears over the battle at Cybertron:
    Galvatron: “There they are, attack!”
    Cyclonus: “Attack who, mighty Galvatron?”
    Galvatron: “EVERYONE!”

  • @Miltypooh2001
    @Miltypooh2001 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    One thing I like about megatron in animated is that he's aware of every single fight, he knows when he's about to lose but it doesn't stop him from retreating and coming back to be more ruthless than he was before, I remember when starscream shot him in an attempt to kill him to take full control of the decepticons then try to pretend to feel sad,yet megatron came back making starscream shake in fear and try to please him and megatron straight up killed him in front of everyone to show that he's not the same megatron that treated starscream like a son or a punching bag

  • @muigokublack6487
    @muigokublack6487 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I always found Autobot/post-war Megatron to be Megatron at his most fascinating. It is a story about trying to be better but after millennia of war and death, can one be forgiven or even CAPABLE of redemption? It's a question directed at the reader. Those who lived through the war can't and Megatron never stopped seeing himself as a monster.
    Earthspark has it so Megatron switches sides because once the Allspark is tossed into the space bridge and destroyed he saw no point continuing the war and what mattered at that point was saving what was left of his race.

  • @worldssmallestdestron7819
    @worldssmallestdestron7819 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Animated Megatron is my favorite

  • @derekosoriomartinez5974
    @derekosoriomartinez5974 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I love this new take of Megatron being turned into a villain after he tried to bring peace. And I specially LOVE IDW Megatron’s character arc

  • @zemmo429
    @zemmo429 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Megatron is just pure awesome

  • @GoddessWhoUsedToKnowToMuch
    @GoddessWhoUsedToKnowToMuch 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    One of the best parts about him is that Megatron can be everything from a pure evil monster to an antagonist who has truly noble motivations.

  • @curlAlldizzle05
    @curlAlldizzle05 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Missed opportunity to highlight the end of Transformers Prime, Megatron... or Galvatrons awakened state. And his need to team up prior to that, with Prime and the autobots to stop Unicron. ✋️

  • @7evenseas975
    @7evenseas975 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Since the decepticons logo is based off soundwave's face. Possibly meaning that he is closer to Megatron than a commander (friend obviously) so he modeled the logo for which they are known by off his face. That's the power of friends

  • @good7bad138
    @good7bad138 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    He is one of the greatest villains of all time

  • @Gigas0101
    @Gigas0101 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Megatron's Three Questions, quoted by Prime in the IDW comics, are powerful.

  • @chip6169
    @chip6169 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    I love this megatron video. It’s concepts like this that enforce my love for Transformers that isn’t inherently capitalistic. I feel Transformers has a well of untapped story telling potential, in the general public discourse especially. I just got Legacy Tarn and TF figure designs are some of the best and if this was the stuff that came out as I was a kid…I wouldn’t need a tv! Lol

  • @WarlockMoth
    @WarlockMoth ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This is an underrated video, Transformers has been a part of my childhood since I can remember, and this video perfectly describes an amazing villain.

  • @S197Szymonik
    @S197Szymonik 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I like the later Megatron incarnations. He didnt want war. He just wanted his people to be free. Aligned shows how he tried to gain power to be able to finally free his kind and he let that power corrupt him, while the WFC trilogy shows a desperate leader who lets the most sadistic of his advisors get in his head. You see the internal conflict in the WFC series. He doesnt want to execute and genocide the autobots. That change comes after Shockwave gets in his head.

  • @DrLockdown
    @DrLockdown ปีที่แล้ว +4

    To anyone criticising how Roadrustle normally speaks, how about you seek therapy. Clearly something is wrong with you for trying to hurt this kind gentle soul.
    Disgraceful.

  • @basicdamine
    @basicdamine ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Me: Which Megatron!?
    RoadRustle: *ALL OF THEM*

  • @BLKBRDSR71
    @BLKBRDSR71 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    ALL HAIL MEGATRON!

  • @goosemanVEVO
    @goosemanVEVO ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Man, the clip of Galvatron looking at the star sabre after Starscreams death and thinking about his speech gets me every time.

  • @lazydroidproductions1087
    @lazydroidproductions1087 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I loved how Prime gave a reason for why the decepticons are named that in universe. Granted we are told the reason by Megatron trying to keep Orion Pax pacified, but it works very well for how the social revolutionary movement may have gotten the name long before they were just flat-out evil, and for why the names are kept by each side in Shattered Glass, though granted I’m not familiar with its lore, but basically just how the good guys have such a blatantly obvious bad-guy name: “if the truth is deception, then we are gladly guilty”

  • @robbie_the_mastermind2176
    @robbie_the_mastermind2176 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Megatron is cool but he is a big bad who always fails to win.

  • @welcomeboi8991
    @welcomeboi8991 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    22:52 "Tarn is a megatron fanboy" 💀

    • @Trashtox
      @Trashtox ปีที่แล้ว

      Tarn is Megatron yandere 🌚

  • @TrxshWolfie
    @TrxshWolfie ปีที่แล้ว +9

    That "I am megatron" sended a shiver down my spine

  • @jt6924
    @jt6924 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Truly, an underrated villain.

  • @puffergaming9921
    @puffergaming9921 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Wfc and FOC had imo the best depictions of both sides struggles and wants and the models of megatron and optimus were beautiful and the acting was utterly amazing

  • @aperson8209
    @aperson8209 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    ''Such Heroic Nonsense''

  • @MadaraUchiha-yu5vg
    @MadaraUchiha-yu5vg 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Fred was my favourite VA for Megatron and his WfC/FoC design was my favourite too. There's something so fitting about his rage and the sharpness of his design that meshes together so well.
    He truly seemed like a leader who was feared for his power and anger. Not just "He's in charge so he has goons."

  • @jacobcox4565
    @jacobcox4565 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I like the Galvatron from Transformers: Predacons Rising the most. He's like a mix between G1 and Cybertron Galvatron. Like Transformers: Cybertron, he looks different and is more powerful, yet is the same Megatron on the inside. And like G1, he was upgraded by Unicron and forced to do his bidding. I love how instead of going insane from the freedom, he realizes how much it hurts to be subjugated and decides to stop fighting and disband the Deceptions.

  • @Commissar_Eiven
    @Commissar_Eiven ปีที่แล้ว +7

    9:11 let's be honest Curry Burton the cunning in his plans actually makes you believe that this villain planned the cybertronian Civil War and he has this feeling of grandeur than life true Evil

  • @thebaneking4787
    @thebaneking4787 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Those war for Cybertron games on PS3 were incredible. Beautifully done.

  • @peterl3014
    @peterl3014 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Fred Tatasciore was definitley one of if not the best megatron in my opinion. Not only did wfc/foc megatron have a great vc, his character is perfect

  • @four-en-tee
    @four-en-tee ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Aaaand in the Watch Later folder it goes

  • @tailgate8840
    @tailgate8840 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Great video my personal incarnation of Megatron is the one from Prime mostly cause its one of the Tf shows i grew up with
    Versions to highlight is of course the one from Animated and the Idw comics.
    Another villan from fiction i like to compare Megatron with is Clu from Tron Legacy heck he is basicaly an ”organic” in quotation marks due to Clu orignting from Cyberspace, version of Megatron who sees Programs as superior to the Users and anything that dosent match Clus views of perectionism as a virus
    He even has universal conquest as a pipedream of his wich of course fails.
    If there ever was a crossover between Tron Legacy and Transformers in comic book form i would certainly love to see Megatron and Clu debate their world views with eachother

  • @zemox2534
    @zemox2534 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Animated Megatron is my favourite incarnation of the character. He was ruthless, cruel, manipulative and power hungry. He was scary, exactly as Bob Budiansky described him. Even as a head, he was intimidating.

  • @anthonyh3129
    @anthonyh3129 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    One of my personal favorite villains, although I respect the autobots I’ve always loved Megatron and his lieutenants. He’s a fierce warrior with absolutely no honor and will do anything to win all while keeping his sense of superiority. Even though he’s a leader you’d never want to follow, his war hunger, arrogance and dominant presence over his army is incredibly fascinating to watch

  • @Cdr2002
    @Cdr2002 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The final battle in Cybertron is fantastic yeah

  • @parkerpshebnisky1051
    @parkerpshebnisky1051 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    G1 megaton is one of the greatest villains of all time!

  • @Zippy_Zolton
    @Zippy_Zolton ปีที่แล้ว +5

    22:04 a super old friend of mine used this comic panel as his profile picture, he suffered from severe depression and would compromise his relationships over his feelings. watching this video makes me feel like that the pfp had an extra meaning to it that I could've found out before he left the internet entirely. if only I could know where Megs is now...

  • @RobC2201_
    @RobC2201_ ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i appreciate the amount of time & detail you put into this.

  • @agent_meister477
    @agent_meister477 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Excellent video, especially the IDW analysis.

  • @Kededian
    @Kededian 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I really liked this video about my favourite villain of all time. Masterly done!

  • @RazorToaster
    @RazorToaster ปีที่แล้ว +4

    G1 cartoon galvatron was driven mad by brain damage (webworld)

  • @wafagdplqs4421
    @wafagdplqs4421 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I love almost all the incarnations of the character !

  • @rorymcclernon4674
    @rorymcclernon4674 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Welker will always be THE voice of Megatron

  • @unoriginalguy_
    @unoriginalguy_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was a very well done deep dive into Megatron. He's a very fascinating character. Thank you for making this, I enjoyed it quite a lot.

  • @AntiDecepticonCampaign
    @AntiDecepticonCampaign ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Decepticomunism always ends in the same grim way.

  • @ninjamasterbuilder8675
    @ninjamasterbuilder8675 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Megatron the greatest decepticon leader who is one of the best decepticons in the franchise

  • @DanielZaleski
    @DanielZaleski ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My favorite version of the character is the jaded, sarcastic semi-reformed (retired) version in Combiner Wars. Don’t see that version of Megs talked about a lot, but in CW, he’s extremely complex and…almost likable, but still with a hint of the ruthless conquer he was in his youth.

  • @DavidSilva-mn4dz
    @DavidSilva-mn4dz ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I love that Megatron is just a proxy for any totalitarian leader, from the intellectuals that sent armies to defeat the workers in the URSS because they weren't as maleable as they thought to be, Lenin, Stalin, Mao in China, The Kim Family, Ortega in Nicaragua, Perón in Argentina, Getulio Vargas in Brasil, Pinochet in Chile, The Castros in Cuba, Che Guevara, Calígula, Musolini, Hitler, etc. All of those who use the problematic situation of vulnerable groups to get on power and then create a reason and a Mythology to justify their existence.

  • @nicolasreyes4829
    @nicolasreyes4829 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the music at the start of the video its literally megatron i could not imagine another theme that represents perfectly megatron

  • @CaptainRufus
    @CaptainRufus ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As someone who has been a fan of Transformers since 1984 this was excellent.

  • @ronaldclayton4232
    @ronaldclayton4232 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As a little kid in the 80s I either owned had a friend who owned or at least seen on the shelf every G1 figure except Megatron.I believe he was the hardest figure to acquire even back in the mid 80s.

  • @BrodyW2012
    @BrodyW2012 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This is probably some of best work. I just finished MTMTE and will be starting LL soon I've been loving Megatron and can't wait to see where his character goes

  • @omegahtv6779
    @omegahtv6779 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I like this. And due to your spectacular Megatron/Transformer content, you have just gotten yourself a new subscriber hahahahahahahaahahahaaaaaa! (In my supervillain laugh) great video!!!! 👍🏿

  • @crowejagerson3628
    @crowejagerson3628 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Spot light actually didn't make me hate Megatron at all. When he remarks about how long it took him to build the decepticons and how few years it took Starscreams incompetence to bring them to the brink of destruction. I mean right wrong or in-between it's more amazing he didn't do worse to Starscream and still allow him to live.

    • @gota7738
      @gota7738 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      A major point of that issue though is that Megatron had no intention or desire to kill Starscream. He even says as much when he admits he "almost" means his speech. Even the justification he gives is undermined by his internal monologue admiting that he was set on beating the hell out of him before even becoming aware of the situation.
      In a way that story is maybe the only TF story that tackles just how messed up and ritualistic the logic of the typical Megatron and Starscream dynamic would be; that Megatron has incorporated Starscream's treachery into his war machine and will violently drag him back into that role at a point where Starscream had given up on it.
      So many TF stories feel like they're trying to sell you on Megatron as a smart badass who makes sense, I like that Spotlight went full on the emotional reasoning and sold him a threat much more because his reasoning is honestly unhinged. Way more effective.

    • @cyberninjazero5659
      @cyberninjazero5659 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@gota7738 Beast Wars Megatron was a fascinating look at what a character in charge of an army almost entirely made up of traitors would act like. While Starscream is defined by Peter Principal (he's always described as an excellent air force leader but a terrible leader for the Decepticons). BW Megatron had to constantly deal with so many within his forces who had their own agenda's and it was always interesting to see how he continued to get out on top inspite of it all

  • @brightmamba889
    @brightmamba889 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is by far the best take on Megatron as a character that I have heard. Megatron is one of my favorite villains. He was always very well written. I was always interested with the relationship between him and Starscream. He always kept him around and treated him like shit knowing at anytime he can cross him. His confidence and arrogance never allowed him to be threatened by Starscream. Thats what I call a world class heel.

  • @thalasowo3373
    @thalasowo3373 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I've seen that one tumblr post about every iteration of Megatron, and it really nailed his character in media. Prime Megatron was a noble mech who meant good until his descent to madness; Bayverse Megatron who made peace with the atrocities he had done and will do in the future, he saw Earth as evil because of Unicron, he was doing the universe a bidding and all for the sake of Cybertron; TFA Megatron who had suffered enough from the Autobots, and he will do everything in his power to seek absolution.

  • @kionisua8564
    @kionisua8564 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    1:09 whoa i didn't know he could turn into a gun?! Dang thats pretty rad ngl 🤯
    And i never considered the name "Megatron" scary but after learning about it, it does hold some weight in the spook factor 😟 very neat.

  • @nnnota1889
    @nnnota1889 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    yeah, victory will cost much more lifes, but to much lifes is already wasted to stop

  • @rainbowracer9576
    @rainbowracer9576 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Awesome Analysis of Megaton!

  • @orlandeuce6567
    @orlandeuce6567 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    ALL HAIL LORD MEGATRON!!!!

  • @mariajosepulido3029
    @mariajosepulido3029 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I find it weird and hilarious that in the Marvel Comic/original cartoon, his motives of starting a war came from sheer boredom.