@@IMRROcom sorry to hear that... i'm 51, i swear when i hit 40 stuff started goin' downhill FAST... aches and pains i NEVER had before... extra strength tylenol is now my best friend lol
Thank you! I know it is a older video! However this is something I have read about and tried many many times and never worked! however I never actually seen it done. I am working on starting a new layout and going to try this again.
beautiful track work. so important, especially in the n scale. I use the track nails as well as glue. my track nails go back to when I was thinking about hand laying my track.
Jimmy Irwin most of it is 12”. Corner store inserts are 12” squares cut in half n a 45’. The fat ends of the 2 turn backs are 48”. Basically big raindrop shaped bench work. The new section for Hermosa is the 18”. All operation is set to happen next in the 1st 12” from the front face of the layout, few locations might be in the16” range and 1 at 18”
Eric, thanks for this video!! Glad I watched and did not know about the flux with Zinc in it. Very important. I have been using an RSU to solder rail joiners, feeders and rails together. Goes pretty fast!! Thanks again!! D. Muse
RSU, (Resistance solder unit for the people that do not know) You is hard core. Yes, some solder is conductive. MAKE SURE your solder and flux are rated for circuit boards and electronics. The zinc for the joiners is no big deal as it. if it was a frog or already mounted you have to be careful it might bridge.
I haven't finished watching this yet, but before I forget, is there any special reason why you shortened the small Track, in stad of Installing It as it was, and Cutting a piece off the New Flexitrack ?
Flex Track - Solder - Flex Track - Rail Joiner - Flex Track - Solder - Flex Track. I do believe I cover those expansion gaps for N and HO scale in another video.
how do you do it so effortlessly? I am soldering my track for my layout and I have oxidation all over and IM burning the sleepers. My solder doesnt grip like yours and doesnt stay pure like that. What am I doing wrong?
What is with all the brushing with the tooth brush??? I just rub the joint with a rag to get the flux of and I never have any problems with electrical or painting. Just wondering...
Habits from working in a professional solder shop, remove all Flux it is corrosive in some way. Always clean when done. Did not want to be called out for being a hack for not properly cleaning when done.
Hi Eric, I'm curious to know if you stagger your joints on curves. I stagger the joints on my curves and I find that the flex track ties give the curves a bit more stability.
Your 1 rail doesn't match up with other. It really stuck out after abrasive bar. It'll click everytime it passes there. I use alot of soldier. I like the 2% silver. Use it between my trains in winter and rc's in spring also use dielectric grease. It works well if you have a layout the loses power due to rail joints. Take a very small paint brush dab in dielectric grease and run along joints. Getting it inside. This will automatically complete connection. Unless the problem is to far away for power source and no feeders installed.
Just started n scale getting use to it. Was stating what it looked like in video. Wasn't downing anything don't take it that way. Just a heads up. Pointing it out.
I normally put the sliding rail on the inside of the radius. This way you do not need to trim ties. if it is on the outside you end up needing to trim ties. Not sure if this is correct or not, but this is what I do.
IMRROcom , I’m not so sure it needs to be shorter. Beginners and more experienced like me, need measured steady flow. I like that you don’t rush around. Very professional.
Track is a poor conductor. Copper wire is much better so you keep your power on the copper wire and reduce the length of track between feeds. Less voltage drops
Hey Eric Great Video I'm thinking about integrating some code 80 Atlas or Peko with my KATO mainly long straights in my Yard I was wondering can you use Micro Engineering's Rail Joiners to join the code 80 Rail I'd heard that Micro Engineering has some really Good Quality and Tight Gripping Rail Joiners but when I looked for Info on the M.E. Joiners the Size of the Rail is slightly different of the Atlas & Peko With your experience in using Atlas Code 80 would the Micro Engineering Rail Joiners Work properly.. Thanks And Happy Holidays To and your Family..🚂🚃🚃🚃🚃
Look good, a little soldier does the trick, to many guys use to much soldier, & as far as the nails go you can remove them after you ballet can't you, bunch of thumbs-up!
Good idea about drilling the plywood so you can remove the nails, I guess that's why I never used them but I'll try it and I'm going to try the weathering my track on this layout, thanks for the tip!
I wish we could have seen and heard a little more about the equipment you used here, namely the iron you used, when I solder I have to preheat the rail with the iron and then apply the solder, your way seems easier but I wonder if it requires a different type of iron.
So fitting, i am close to this stage on my tracks, so a few questions, do you use solid wire, or strand? What is the watts of your soldering iron? Looks great, keep up the good work!!!!
Hi sparky 107107 sent me over to you as I had my first go at soldering with bad results you make it look so easy but what I want to ask is what track pins do you use and what size drill for the holes please will take a look at your other videos too.
You make this look WAAAAY easier than it is. I notice you don’t heat the rails first, just touch the solder to it and then immediately touch the iron to it. Isn’t that considered a cold solder (bad thing)? I’m not questioning as an insult or to imply you don’t know what you’re doing. Just trying to learn, as your joins look great!
solder will not flow to cold aka a cold joint. The rail heats up almost instantly and the solder will flow to it. Solder flow to clean and heat. If it was cold it would look like a blob and not be silver but a dull gray.
""Solder" is a modern spelling of the Middle English "souder", which derives from the Old French "soudeur", which itself comes from the Latin "solidare". In the 15th century there was a movement to re-latinize the spelling of words, and the "l" got added back in to the spelling, although the pronunciation didn't change to include the "l" until sometime later." "This is very similar to what happened with "salmon" except that nobody pronounces the L in that one."
Flux is good. Just understand that some flux is conductive and not a good choice for things like circuit boards, rail frogs and cross over etc. you do not want to bridge the pos and neg side of the rails. but as you can see this case was not a problem.
Wow... That ad is LOUD. Tell your sponsor we are LESS likely to buy products if we have our ears blown out. I have never scrambled to find the TV remote so fast...
@@IMRROcom Same here, your hands covered the area that you were working on. If the camera was across from the working area, and more light, we would be able to see it very clearly.
What's with the Midwest ad blasting and all the discounts, etc. on the screen. Then when I thought it was done, here comes Midwest blasing its Klaxon horn loudly. This crap takes away from your video.
How do I solder rail joiners to flex tack?
th-cam.com/users/IMRROcomvideos
did my dude make a comment asking a question on his video, then answer it in the replies?
respect
@ 9:06... you are THE smoothest solderer i've seen to date... some of these guys on YT leave a huge PILE of solder... that was stylish for sure
Thanks, I'm getting older now and have the shakes, Used to not do that, it bothers me some.
@@IMRROcom sorry to hear that... i'm 51, i swear when i hit 40 stuff started goin' downhill FAST... aches and pains i NEVER had before... extra strength tylenol is now my best friend lol
Thank you! I know it is a older video! However this is something I have read about and tried many many times and never worked! however I never actually seen it done. I am working on starting a new layout and going to try this again.
Hope it helped
This Brit really appreciates all the info and videos for model trains sent from across the pond. Keep 'em coming!
thanks
You make it look so easy. I must be using wrong flux all I have right now is a water base. Thanks for the video!
More than likely your tip is bad. What is the Flux you used called
worthington water soluble flux
When you use track cutters, how do you prevent the small pieces of track from flying across the room :)
safety glass.... :) or lay a towel out in the direction it will travel.
beautiful track work. so important, especially in the n scale. I use the track nails as well as glue. my track nails go back to when I was thinking about hand laying my track.
Little more work than glue, but that is what I do. Did it in O scale still do it in N scale
Thanks for video very good do you mind telling me how wide is you table wall to you and your corners thank you jl
Jimmy Irwin most of it is 12”. Corner store inserts are 12” squares cut in half n a 45’. The fat ends of the 2 turn backs are 48”. Basically big raindrop shaped bench work. The new section for Hermosa is the 18”. All operation is set to happen next in the 1st 12” from the front face of the layout, few locations might be in the16” range and 1 at 18”
Hey nice to see you, seems like a mighty long time. Hope your back on u tubes, I enjoy your channel, hey stay well , I’ll be watching….
Thanks, maybe some day, someday...
Eric, thanks for this video!! Glad I watched and did not know about the flux with Zinc in it. Very important. I have been using an RSU to solder rail joiners, feeders and rails together. Goes pretty fast!! Thanks again!! D. Muse
RSU, (Resistance solder unit for the people that do not know) You is hard core. Yes, some solder is conductive. MAKE SURE your solder and flux are rated for circuit boards and electronics. The zinc for the joiners is no big deal as it. if it was a frog or already mounted you have to be careful it might bridge.
I haven't finished watching this yet, but before I forget, is there any special reason why you shortened the small Track, in stad of Installing It as it was, and Cutting a piece off the New Flexitrack ?
I need to rewatch myself, but a lot of time it is out of convenience or what I have with me at the time.
Do you put expansion gap on your soldered track through out your layout?
Flex Track - Solder - Flex Track - Rail Joiner - Flex Track - Solder - Flex Track. I do believe I cover those expansion gaps for N and HO scale in another video.
One question, with the seam, when the boards expand, does it push out the putty? Or does the paint protect it from moisture issues.
Do not know, we will find out together. It is more a soft foam stuff than a putty too.
how do you do it so effortlessly? I am soldering my track for my layout and I have oxidation all over and IM burning the sleepers. My solder doesnt grip like yours and doesnt stay pure like that. What am I doing wrong?
Tip car is key, Soldeer likes things to be clean. - th-cam.com/video/41szGGf5G9s/w-d-xo.html
What is with all the brushing with the tooth brush??? I just rub the joint with a rag to get the flux of and I never have any problems with electrical or painting. Just wondering...
Habits from working in a professional solder shop, remove all Flux it is corrosive in some way. Always clean when done. Did not want to be called out for being a hack for not properly cleaning when done.
Hi Eric, I'm curious to know if you stagger your joints on curves. I stagger the joints on my curves and I find that the flex track ties give the curves a bit more stability.
No, not relay, One I solder the joints they are stable after I pin the track it holds it shape. I do not worry about it my self.
Excellent video. Greatly appreciated
Thanks
How do you put the ties back on?
Just slide them back under the rails.
Your 1 rail doesn't match up with other. It really stuck out after abrasive bar. It'll click everytime it passes there. I use alot of soldier. I like the 2% silver. Use it between my trains in winter and rc's in spring also use dielectric grease. It works well if you have a layout the loses power due to rail joints. Take a very small paint brush dab in dielectric grease and run along joints. Getting it inside. This will automatically complete connection. Unless the problem is to far away for power source and no feeders installed.
t is N scale close up...The wheels will not click and everything in N scale close up looks over exaggerated
Just started n scale getting use to it. Was stating what it looked like in video. Wasn't downing anything don't take it that way. Just a heads up. Pointing it out.
Great vid - thanks for sharing your skills! TBH I'm not keen on the abstract sound effects on the model rail advert in between though.
Ok, Thanks, But this is a model train channel :)
@@IMRROcom The content is great, really useful relating to some rail soldering I had to do for the first time, thank you! Keep it up! 👍
When installing flex track on a curve, do you put the sliding
rail on the inside or outside of the curve?
I normally put the sliding rail on the inside of the radius. This way you do not need to trim ties. if it is on the outside you end up needing to trim ties. Not sure if this is correct or not, but this is what I do.
Leave the solder on the tip of your iron to prevent it from oxidizing.
Very informative!!
I need to make a more up to date version, that is a little shorter.
IMRROcom , I’m not so sure it needs to be shorter. Beginners and more experienced like me, need measured steady flow. I like that you don’t rush around. Very professional.
Well done.
Great tips on soldering.
Thanks
great "how to" Eric... looking forward to seeing train running in this section.. thanks for sharing.. vinny
did you see the GP20 on 9 volts :)
IMRROcom yup I did..ran great
Good deal! Thanks
Thank you too for watching
what are track feeders used for?
Track is a poor conductor. Copper wire is much better so you keep your power on the copper wire and reduce the length of track between feeds. Less voltage drops
Hey Eric Great Video I'm thinking about integrating some code 80 Atlas or Peko with my KATO mainly long straights in my Yard I was wondering can you use Micro Engineering's Rail Joiners to join the code 80 Rail I'd heard that Micro Engineering has some really Good Quality and Tight Gripping Rail Joiners but when I looked for Info on the M.E. Joiners the Size of the Rail is slightly different of the Atlas & Peko With your experience in using Atlas Code 80 would the Micro Engineering Rail Joiners Work properly..
Thanks And Happy Holidays To and your Family..🚂🚃🚃🚃🚃
Not sure on that, I solder mine so to be honest I would not know. Thanks
Look good, a little soldier does the trick, to many guys use to much soldier, & as far as the nails go you can remove them after you ballet can't you, bunch of thumbs-up!
I'm sure you can. I noticed after I weather the track it seems to be stuck rather well too.
Good idea about drilling the plywood so you can remove the nails, I guess that's why I never used them but I'll try it and I'm going to try the weathering my track on this layout, thanks for the tip!
I wish we could have seen and heard a little more about the equipment you used here, namely the iron you used, when I solder I have to preheat the rail with the iron and then apply the solder, your way seems easier but I wonder if it requires a different type of iron.
I have a few videos on soldering. They show some if not all the things to get it done.
Thank you.
Thank you back
VERY GOOD NICE ONE MATE
Thanks
Good video - what size drill bit did you use?
It is a small wire drill. I just ordered the size the are a little smaller than the track nails. Do not recall the size.
Great video Eric! Like the fast moving ops. KUTGW
Thanks
Excellent video Eric. Curious about what the wattage of your soldering iron is? I need to get me a roll of that solder, man that was quick.
40 watt. not the tip size too. if your doing this with a pencil tip you will melt ties. put the heat into it and take it away quickly.
There is no way you were able to melt that solder so quickly! Maybe I need to try a new type of solder?
Clean, Properly set up Iron
i agree with the nails. easier if repairs are needed
Yes, Takes me back to my O/027 scale days.
So fitting, i am close to this stage on my tracks, so a few questions, do you use solid wire, or strand? What is the watts of your soldering iron? Looks great, keep up the good work!!!!
Solid, for ease of use, 40 watt. see - th-cam.com/video/41szGGf5G9s/w-d-xo.html
IMRROcom asked my question too early you answered it in the running video, thanks again, keep them coming
with your amazon link, We in Canada have to go to amazon.ca . will you still get the cash for this or only the American subs that you have?
yes, put it ito your box and then buy it on the .ca Amazon.
Great video. Why do you drill before setting the track nails? Holes too small? Or were there no holes to begin with? -Mark
The holes are for the nails to go into the plywood. If you nail them in you will never get them out.
Why did you need to soldier the rail joiners?
Rail joiners as well as track are poor conductors of electricity .
IMRROcom so if I soldier the rail joiners do I still need feeder and bus lines?
@@Darryl6636 I would do it.
Actual soldering starts at 6:32
Thank me later,
Thanking you Later...
Hi sparky 107107 sent me over to you as I had my first go at soldering with bad results you make it look so easy but what I want to ask is what track pins do you use and what size drill for the holes please will take a look at your other videos too.
I use the Atlas nails and the drill is something like a #54 .047. Thanks
You make this look WAAAAY easier than it is. I notice you don’t heat the rails first, just touch the solder to it and then immediately touch the iron to it. Isn’t that considered a cold solder (bad thing)? I’m not questioning as an insult or to imply you don’t know what you’re doing. Just trying to learn, as your joins look great!
solder will not flow to cold aka a cold joint. The rail heats up almost instantly and the solder will flow to it. Solder flow to clean and heat. If it was cold it would look like a blob and not be silver but a dull gray.
Why do people say Soder when it has an L in the name making it Sold er?
""Solder" is a modern spelling of the Middle English "souder", which derives from the Old French "soudeur", which itself comes from the Latin "solidare". In the 15th century there was a movement to re-latinize the spelling of words, and the "l" got added back in to the spelling, although the pronunciation didn't change to include the "l" until sometime later."
"This is very similar to what happened with "salmon" except that nobody pronounces the L in that one."
Guess I'm going to get flux. I've never used it but I've melted a lot of ties heating the rails tho.
Flux is good. Just understand that some flux is conductive and not a good choice for things like circuit boards, rail frogs and cross over etc. you do not want to bridge the pos and neg side of the rails. but as you can see this case was not a problem.
IPA? India Pale Ale? jk-isopropyl alcohol.
Well 70% Alcohol, But I still call it IPA...
Wow... That ad is LOUD. Tell your sponsor we are LESS likely to buy products if we have our ears blown out.
I have never scrambled to find the TV remote so fast...
ok
You did not solder the second connection.
What?
I liked it. What , 8 thumbs up and know one down yet? say it aint so.
My 3 most dedicated followers will get to it soon enough. :)
Well , I hope not.
Bro how long are your nails
Atlas Track nails, about 1/2 an inch
I just read below what size your nails are I'd rather use the nails too because it's easier to reuse your track !!
Yes it is
Putting the camera pretty much anywhere else than where it is would make the vid more helpful.
And what place do you want to stick it in?
@@IMRROcom Same here, your hands covered the area that you were working on. If the camera was across from the working area, and more light, we would be able to see it very clearly.
rvnmedic1968 the benchwork is 12” wide. I’m not punching a hole in the wall so I can stick the camera in the master bedroom to get a shot.
Are you a MOVIE STAR? Take of the sunglasses And reveal your DRUG EYES
I had one eye shot out by 50cal...the other one is and adopted goat eye.
What's with the Midwest ad blasting and all the discounts, etc. on the screen. Then when I thought it was done, here comes Midwest blasing its Klaxon horn loudly. This crap takes away from your video.
rvnmedic1968 it also pays for my videos.
First baby 👶!!
Who are you, Rumpelstiltskin? My wife wife would kill me if I gave her up.