Dating In Italy
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ก.ย. 2024
- Dating in Italy is something that of course many individuals have in mind when moving to Italy to make a new life in Italy for themselves. Living in Italy as a dual citizen expat in Italy has taught me about some of the cultural differences between dating in Italy vs America. Learning about the cultural norms and expectations, going through my own experiences, and hearing about the experiences of others has greatly shaped this episode of Not Your Average Globetrotter. I get into a discussion about life in Italy and what I've noticed regarding dating in Italy and how dating has changed over the past couple of decades in the US. Italy is no different and has seen a shift due to the mass adoption of dating apps in Italy. Even with the traditional mentality that can be easily found in Italy, the modern world and modern dating culture has definitely been embraced.
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The thing is we Italians don't actually "date", not the way Americans do. Say a couple meet because of mutual friends or any other social gathering, if there are good vibes the two would start to "hang out" together, within the group of friends. Then, with fewer and fewer other people involved until the 2 agree to see one another alone. Only then they could say they'd be actually dating. The whole process is much slower here. Italian women/girls would hardly date a complete (or half) stranger: maybe they'd start by taking a coffee together (certainly not dinner immediately).
That is great to know thanks. Hoping I can move there soon when I sell my farm
Thank you for covering this sensitive topic in a fair way.😊
Just found this video and yourself tonight. Well spoken, and I completely agree with: "You're either in it, or you're not!" I never understood the waiting 2+ years, put a ring on it and Marry Her!
In Spanish we also say novio/novia which can mean bride and groom but is used as gf/bf
Honesty and being genuine in relationships is the best way it's not easy to find your match. A great informative video Rafael and very interesting. I love your videos thanks for sharing
I really wish you would do more on this topic, particularly gender roles and how they affect dating there. It is very interesting.
2 cases: a cousin went to Italy for a husband. She hooked one, came to America. He was shocked of how little money she had in the bank ($60k). He went back to Italy and never returned. He was in America 2 weeks. 2nd. Friend found his wife there. The married in America. She stayed beyond her green card. The day after her U.S. passport came in the mail, she packed and returned home.
holy shit lol that's crazy
Dayummm. I can assure you the first gig was a gold digger. 60k in the bank account not good enough? Give me a break!
wow
i believe this i had a girl from Italy come to my college and run track she was here temporarily and was very rude and demanding and always complained she didnt have freedom and . One day she just disappeared from the club and training without a word we later found out she went back to Italy and she didnt tell anyone or even say goodbye to the coaches haha was about the rudest thing i have ever seen something is off with those people haha
@@ImCheesedOut Yea...if you live in America most people are living paycheck to paycheck!!! You are lucky if you have 2,000 dollars in the bank...lol
Compared to 40 years ago when I resided in Italy; I’d say things haven’t changed too much from a dating perspective based on your experience. I will point out (based on reading Italian newspapers, news reports, friends and family) in general: (1) more awareness and acceptance of the LGBT community, (2) more awareness of the disabled community (somewhat off-topic), and (3) folks certainly don’t marry as much as they used too. Much more ‘domestic partnership’ or ‘convivenza.’ 👍🏻
Yes, I take it you live here - there is a subtlety to those topics here. It might take longer but as opposed to the US it is not as violent - meaning that people become divided and it becomes all consuming and partisan.
Absolutely be in the relationship or not make it known
Dating in Italy is a total nightmare.
for a man yes!
Why?
@@xarinaazlanova3195Cuz everything is A LOT more slower than half of the world (I'm not Italian but a Colombian digital nomad that has an Italian Girlfriend), so basically you can't approach any lady here for asking out to date, not even to be friends cuz you will be immediately rejected, here what it works is to have a group of friends that know other friends and get them to organize a hangout where they invite females and NOW you can approach them VERY FUCKING SLOWLY (and that's an additional problem as you are completely required to make friends which is not that easy) then it will require at least 5 hangouts with the same group and the same girls to actually get them numbers and text, after that you guys (group) start to hangout with fewer and fewer people each time till the point of 2 girls 2 males and now the game finally BEGINS, after all of this bullshit now you can actually ask for a "date", see how many extra steps you got to take only to have a CHANCE? (the girl can say no and then restart the damn process and you lost several weeks or months of your life) it's still worth the hustle too, Italians are probably the best women on earth, not only looks but personality, elegance and feminity, also get ready to meet some basic standards, like being in really good shape, a little bit tall, having a good haircut, beard, nice dress style, perfume, and generally a decent face, have some money, at least more than the medium salary to be taken serious (around €2000+ per month), a decent car, and a good apartment/house, and that's just the minimum, good luck.
So true about seeing the person and drop all the patronizing! 👍🤪
"Italian Love Doctor".... priceless... Great info and content Rafi! Really enjoyed it.
People are as diverse in Italy as jelly beans in a jar! Thanks for your video.
Just found an Italian guy online.. but no clue what the differences are in culture or what to expect..
I’m surprised you’ve finally done a video on this! 😂
Good content Rafi. You look great without the Hat. Just for fun it would be cool to see what you look like with your head shaved and beard and mustache gone. I think you would rock. You can always grow it back.
Rafi, you are looking very poetic.
thanks for your honesty here 😜
Interesting perspectives. More interesting are the stats about divorce rates...
Why? 45 percent is the average for much of the world,. USA, EU average, China is even higher - so it is not unusual. It is just as common here for people to live together and increasingly having children without being married.
I live in Rome that is not the rest of the country but i never hide my sexuality since 2005, @ home, @ work, etc and i neber been bullied for that. I’ve heard from friends about sad stories from south italy
Americans think we are still those italians they met 130 years ago in Ellis Island ! 😂
Most of the local men, have themselves to work really hard in order to pick up a local woman, or at least to approach her to befriend her. Italian women are the most difficult in the world to pick up/befriend, trust me, I know what Im talking about, no matter where you're from, ask any local/foreigner and I am positive the bulk of 'em will confirm that......😎
It is hard to generalize, but if you are pretty foreign lady you should really have zero problem to find a guy, if you are a man looking for a girlfriend, well you had better looking somewhere else, you can bank it....🙂
That means they might be of high value women. After all there's a saying: "in the most stubborn shells are the most beautifull pearls". One (off-topic) question: how many of them are virgins (rough estimate)?
@@ortros1 virgins? Girls ? I haven't the foggiest 🙂
High value ? What did you mean ?
Anyway, I think it is a cultural thing, most of them have simply big bloated ego and are really spoiled and entitled
@@ortros1 especially in the area of Rome (in and around), the way local women behave is spoiled beyond beliefs, the standard required to date a local educated girl is the highest in the world., if you are handsome and foreigner, it might be easier, but, as a rule, I would advice you to expect hard times
could it be the the divorce rate in the USA lower because of tax reasons?
Same reasons as in the USA people make bad choices or their priorities change and mind you getting divorced here is a much longer and more complicated process and furthermore divorce settlements are not like in the usa. Often the wealth you have when you enter into a marriage is yours and the common goods come afterward.
Preach it brother!!
usually in Italy fidanzato means bethroted, otherwise is ragazzo (boyfriend), man, companion etc
Grande!
Without the hat, I thought I was watching someone else's channel.
Divorce rates in Italy are far lower than US according to united nations data-1.5 rate per 1,000 people in Italy, compared to 2.5 in the US. Catholicism has its advantages. Even in the US, American Catholics have the lowest divorce rate than any other sub culture,.
You cannot compare American Catholics to Italian - people are culturally Catholic and while there are many superficial signs of religiosity - it is not like in the US. The Church is not popular and especially when a bishop or cardinal says something regarding politics. In Catholic majoirity countries it is difficult to separate religious and cultural norms just like in Islamic nations.
@@mediterraneanworld my point is this: the information given is completely wrong, While i enjoy some of these vlogs, and typically Rafael is spot on about things. But sometimes not everything is discussed (purposely). Things people should know? Politically, Italy, along w the rest of Europe, is getting very conservative. Also the center of all Italian life has been and always be the church. every holiday, every festival in every town square, revolves around it, like it or not. Thanks to this very likable pope, the church is popular, again contrary to what you say.
@@russellderosa6630 I am Italian and live here. Please don’t apply American Conservativism to Europe - it does not mean the same thing. Italy like everywhere is evolving as all cultures and societies do. You have a unbalanced view of contemporary Italian life. Do you live here? The way you write about it is from a very American perspective like it is 100 years ago - of course there are these traditions but they do not conflict with how people act and how they feel or don’t feel about the Church. We very much separate personal beliefs and practices from the clergy, the church and especially the Pope.
@@russellderosa6630 the Pope has nothing to do with the Church’s popularity in Italy. People view him apart from the clergy who are not trusted.
@@russellderosa6630 I lived in the US for 11 years, and I always thought that religion in many ways is more important there than in Italy, from church attendance (higher in the US than in Italy) to the fact that Italians tend to take religion less seriously than Americans (hence, for instance, the greater strictness of the average American Catholic compared to their Italian counterpart)
If you're looking for a guy in Italy, make sure you recognize the signs of a "mammone" or "bamboccioni" before you get too involved
whats that
What about making sure to recognize signs of an american gold-digger??
some of em have no choice trust me....with zero chance to land a job or one allowing em to pay for the very expensive rents or a mortgage, well kind of 2/3 of adults are forced to stay at home
Haha he confirmed what I thought . If i move to Italy I will not bring a wife.
My Italian brother 😊😎
dating apps , are not as good as they were like 10 or 15 years ago
by my personal experience dating here in Italy it sucks, better be abroad..
you nailed it, apparently local women can be very bossy if you are in a relationship with them, they are said to be very prone to bickering (which escalate into rows very quickly), plus too many of them have much higher expectations than their US/european counterparts when it comes to....everything LOL
@@pulse4503 omg if this is not the truth an italian chick came to my school to run track and she had the highest standards for herself than any girl i have ever seen, liked to complain, was rude and she was not even attractive lmaoooo
@@Andrembramwell so basically we are saying the same things
Must be easy in Italy so many women
no because its very religious country
@@celticwarrior777 you don’t know Italian women now 😂
@@celticwarrior777 that’s a good thing
Actually is the other way round
Interesting. Masks in more ways than one. Games. Role-playing.
Keep it light!
I love your ‘no hat’ look. It shows off your cute face.
i would never get maried again. was miserable. its over rated and unnecessary. i prefer relationships. unfortunately so many men play games and use women and girls globally not just in my country. i gave up after long period time getting to know many many men platonically first. too many manipulate and lie and sneak. have hard time being faithful.
social media has led to both men and women sneaking behind botfriends girlfriends backs.
Rapheal , Im Italian American looking to move to Rome over the next yr or 2 . I havent been there since I was a teenager so will be spending extended time there til Im legally able move . Heres my Q : Im a tattooed model . Will that hinder me in finding a serious romance there ? Like , will my tattoos & the work Ive done thus far find me being perceived as wild by Italian men ? Ive been watching tons of vlogs & dont see a lot of tattooed people there .
Hi from Rome! From my experience, people under 40 yo usually like tattoos and many of them have at leats one. But of course there are exceptions (you can find young people who don't like tattoos and 50-60 yo people tattoed). 😊
@@valentinasalvati2139 Valentina , salvi ! & grazie . Someone said Pignetto is a more artsy neighborhood with more tattooed people although I prefer Trasteverre . Even here in the US men can perceive women like myself as "easy" . That couldnt be further from the truth as Im quite conservative romantically . Magari , any attention I get will open the door for people to get to know me . Thanks again for your sincere reply .
@@corrinadeluxe4141 Hi again😊 Pigneto is a semicentral area which has developed moslty in the last two decades and it's actually pretty cool but it isn't as historical and unique as Trastevere of course. For me in Trastevere you "breathe" Rome; but in the end is a matter of personal taste😉 As a tattooed woman, I never felt I could be considered 'easy' somehow, as I said among people under 40 yo tattoos are very common🙃
@@valentinasalvati2139 great to hear ! Thank you for the insight from a local ❤
@@corrinadeluxe4141 you're welcome, feel free to ask if you need more info😊
😂so fun
Unfortunately I'm too old to date you! You're excellent boyfriend material.
Hi Raphael, don't forget Italy has one of the lowest birth rate in the world. Maybe italian women aren't so into having family and children...
I would argue that could be attributed to cost of living + unemployment + average salary which all greatly contribute to emigration of the younger generations leaving the older generations here leaving them behind with an aging population without young children
One of the other factors is like in most industrialized countries, with higher education, living standards and personal goals and careers the birth rate goes down, not only as a consequence of these factors but also that having a child here is considered a serious thing - you don’t just kick them out when they are 18 and let them get student loans etc.. likewise children also take - generally a more curative approach to their parent’s care later in life.
It's also related to our hedonistic lifestyle which prioritizes luxury items and individualism over sacrifice and family values
@@mattmaur6321 hedonistic compared to what? postwar Europe? We can only live in the present and the past was that way due to the constraints of that moment. Culture and people are always changing. I do not disagree regarding many superficial aspects of today but in the past we had other ones - keeping up with the Jones’s and doing things because everyone else was doing that. Family values and sacrifice here are often what holds people back as there needs to be balance in life and unfortunately the great strength of the family and community often holds many back or keeps them in relationships and jobs that they are were not suited for.
@@RafaelDiFuria Exactly. I've been to Italy and communicate with family there and they all tell me it's difficult to find a decent job that allows you to support a family. Unemployment has been high and the economy has been slow for decades.