A random record? You can bet on it.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ต.ค. 2020
- A look at a Horse Racing game that uses Random 'Sixteen Sided' Records to determine the winner.
Wikipedia Article about multisided records en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multisi...
If you’re wondering about how the odds for the races worked - there’s a series of odds sheets that are shuffled to randomise the odds for a race. There’s a load more stuff relating to odds and each way bets and what-have-you and they all combine to make this more like a maths exam than a fun game. I’m someone who has bet on horses plenty of times over the years but the way the rules for this game have been structured and explained just sound like gobbledegook.
Note: Only the first (1973) pressing of the Monty Python Record ‘Matching Tie & Handkerchief’ had a double spiral side B. Subsequent pressings had the two audio tracks stitched together sequentially. Apparently the album art I’ve grabbed for this video is of the US release that most likely won’t have a double spiral.
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Watched the video fifteen times and Deeside won every time, I must be stuck in the same groove.
Groundhog's Day
@@Gohan1138you mean 'Desides' day :P
Try re-watching it on different devices. My laptop, tablet and smartphone gave different results.
Okay, so how many people _actually_ tried that? C'mon, be honest... ☺
Welcome to 2020
Flip it over to the C-side then.
This game fills the niche of "daddy wants to gamble"..."why don't you gamble at home with the kids?"
Steve, what barrr is Techmoan?
Randy Marsh, "Honey let's go to the track."
Randy's wife: "We have horse racing at home."
Horse racing at home:
I played cribbage with my father. But only when we went to Lake Tahoe. Well, now that I've stripped my soul, enjoy your weekend.
Holy crap... Jay follows Tech Moan. I don't know why this is a shock to me, but it is.
Hey, I know you.
The title is so clever, doesn't even feel like a stupid pun because it got me.
I have to admit, betting on long-dead horses wasn't where my mind first went when I thought of "race nights" and 1970's Britain.
Sixteen sided? Wow, that must be some kind of record.
🤣
Disc usting.
Badum tsss
There's some Dad joke gold in this comment section! Well done :-D
*loud moan*
This would have been the perfect use for a picture disc; a line of horses chasing around the edge of the record as it spins.
Oooh, that's a really neat idea!
I was SO rooting for a puppet show at the end with the puppets playing a round of this game.
I did not watch this, thanks for the warning could have wasted 8 min on it, for the build up for the real show.
@@andreasm987 The video is still quite interesting!
They appeared for me, the video's ending is random
The announcer sounds like Eric Idle impersonating an announcer. 😁
I'd assume that _this_ is _exactly_ who Eric Idle was impersonating.
I've never been sure of a choice so fast in my life before I'd seen the name Jimmy O'Goblin.
Same :D
Gutted they only came third.
Wasn't a bad punt, but alas.
Team O’Gonlin here
@@junknugget4813 If you bet him to show you'd still make some money. Heck, I've seen races where betting on a long shot to show paid more than the horse that won or placed.
iam8bit's vinyl release of the Untitled Goose Game's soundtrack is being pressed as a double-grooved disc, to reflect the game's dynamic music
ndcoten just wondering, is it also on sale as a cassette? i always just fail to understand when people or labels offer vinyl presses of an artist’s work, but don’t release it on cassette or CD; just digital file or analog disc. humor me if you don’t mind, is it because basically all new tapes are type I, generally considered the least favorable for Hi-Fi enthusiasts (IV being best, but no longer available except new-old-stock, and is also more expensive; adds up in bulk). if the nostalgia or physical media niche is the target, not HiFi buyers, they’re missing out by not also selling audiocassettes of the release. type I, although not the best, is certainly passable for (most, calm it) people. quiet parts may be hissy, but if both ends of the deal give a damn, it’ll have at least Dolby B NR recorded and on playback. lack of CD releases I fail to understand even worse when for Hi-Fi owners: compact discs are uncompressed audio data with robust error correction, and you can still get nice players; even a bottom-barrel disc machine with audio out will be nice with preferred speakers. vinyl can also sound great, there’s no denying that, but the quality is inherently a quick dropoff because records just don’t have error correction, and they’re playing back an analog of sound info. a piece of dust big enough? thats a pop or crackle, not the “charm of vinyl,” it’s distracting even to people who don’t identify as audiophiles. i literally use free youtube for music; 128 kbps AAC, just TV speakers, and i’m pleased because the song is still intact. there’s no way to get better quality without buying or, i guess stealing its CD release and buy/stealing better speakers(ideally an amp too but eh). people who listen to copies of analog recordings on youtube, like from a vinyl disc, and gush over the analog warmth, meaning the slight errors that make it sound human(i enjoy that, won’t deny)? you’re listening to DIGITAL AUDIO. 128 kbps, AAC. some of these dudes even claim it sounds better than the official autogenerated upload. it CAN’T! both of these signals are at a bitrate of 128 kbps, and in AAC format. if anything, the official upload sounds better because it was done by...professionals, with the highest quality they could put into it. HOWEVER, neither is able to disobey the following fact: youtube compresses audio to a bitrate of, say along, 128 kbps and converts it to an AAC stream. meaning that even if both have the same “grade(i guess)” of audio fidelity going in? you are listening to the same exact audio signal, but vinyl just has very slight errors, as would any mechanical audio format, not even just analog; CDs have error correction for a reason. the player might catch an error, replicate it based on context, and you would be blissfully ignorant of the error’s existence. if it was small enough. i dont even know what point i started with, but ill try and end: vinyl is not superior in quality to digital files at their best, and compressing audio will always reduce its quality, vinyl is harder to maintain than audiotape or digital disc, and who knows what market the seller is trying to target. regardless, you enjoy audio your way.records, CC, CD, RTRTR, stream, digital rip, on a terrible mp3 player, fuck, even on a janky VCR you got the headphone->phono cable for JUST to record your audio with the HiFi mode. enjoy the audio you listen to, damn it. don’t worry if its superior or inferior to anything in audio quality, or claim it’s better without knowing what you’d need to do correctly state that. don’t constantly buy new gear (unless you enjoy burning disposable income, not my business) because you noticed a TINY fault. if i dont like the audio i hear, i search a new song. that’s free to use with an internet subscription; n o e x t r a c o s t. quality? shit, if you want to get into this, you only need an amp that suits your taste, compatible speakers, and whatever cabling you need for the setup. start there, because the speaker itself is one of the biggest bottlenecks to fidelity aside from a terrible signal to start with.
dont know what i was even saying. peace out, let me know if you enjoyed reading my semicoherent diatribe, or, if you wish you could meet me and punch me in the face
good day, afternoon, or night, be safe, enjoy...life? sure. bye.
@@valdecoxib YEAH totally agree. I already collect retro games but I really don't have space or time to take care of and store records to get the best quality out of them. I'd much MUCH rather store CDs (AND i can play those in the car!) But its much harder to get CD releases for some ungodly reason. Why?
@@valdecoxib If your point is "different strokes..." and anti-elitist BS then I'm with you completely. I'm reallly tired of hearing "mine is better than yours", and *ESPECIALLY* "I can hear/see/perceive things you can't". Nope. No, you can't. You are human just like me, and within an extremely narrow variance we have exactly the same biology and capability. What you have is different *tastes*, and there is nothing inherently "better" about your taste. And in many cases the claims about "better" this or that are provably false.
One thing I know for certain: any audio equipment for home use that costs more than $1000 (for any single component) is absolutely a waste of money, and anyone who claims to hear the difference is a liar. Any actual, discernable difference is due to deliberate design, not quality (and anyone can hear that difference), and it's not difficult to find something affordable to the masses that performs at least as well as something that only the filthy rich can afford. That's a general truism, by the way, not only applicable to audio equipment.
@@valdecoxib The idea of doing it on vinyl is because not only is it a format that's regained in popularity, but the size of the cover and its contents gives ample space for some fun artistic design which is large enough to be a display piece itself, like a print or a poster.
@@valdecoxib It doesn't even matter if it is on TH-cam, all releases of modern music on retro formats is based on music in a digital format. Nobody does analog mastering anymore, so in the end it is just a digital master stored on a vinyl/whatever, slightly modified to respect the limitations of such formats (band-limiting, etc.). That digital master is potentially higher quality than CD audio, but you can just sell that (and some do) and I doubt anyone without the best of equipment will be able to tell a difference.
I chose Deeside and it was quite the emotional roller-coaster.
LOL during one of the race commentaries, my wife called from the other room "and Long Underwear is falling down behind!"
Lol
That's really funny, she must be a great woman
Bruh 🤣
I can't believe Deeside had such a bad start, and I ended up winning with him anyway.
Me too
same!
3rd one here with the 7 Deeside win :D
I got 3rd. The name had Jimmy in it...
Lucky number 7 for me too.
Only dads with crippling gambling addictions bought these for their kids.
Or mum's w/ gambling addictions
You forgot electronic arts. Not for the part of buying it, but for the part of the ´´surprise mechanics´´ that the same company sold to children, even in a kids magazine nowadays without even care less about it.
Or they were soulless enough to want their own kids to develop a gambling habit to go along with the drinking and Sherlock Holmes pipe smoking competition they were having!
Bad 70's parents!!
@@memberwhen22 I guess the biggest difference is that one has more potential to leave you with no money.
memberwhen Aww what’s wrong with trolling the TH-cam comments? It’s not like many things are open in the real world right now.
But yeah.
I went to a race night projected on cine films years ago when on holiday. I won a bottle of champagne and a £10 credit to spend at the bar. I was 10. Different times.
😮😁
Shirley temples for everyone
The cine film American Horse race Films were a Regular in Butlins in the 60s .
I’m incredibly proud of myself for choosing #7. If only this was a real bet 😂
By playing this record does this mean Techmoans a disc jockey?
Ba Dum Tsssss.
Grandnational Flash.
I see what you did here
DAD Joke!
oh, you ain't gettin' away with that furlong.
I have been to one of these parties and had a look at the rule book - can confirm it's one of the most convoluted rule sets I have ever seen and I have played D&D and WH40k!!!
I heard about this sort of thing on one of the Simpsons DVD commentary tracks. One of the writers describes listening to that Monty Python record, and literally thinking he had lost his mind. He turned off the record player and had to breathe deeply because he could not believe what was happening. There was no internet back then; it took him ages to discover the truth.
The writers then discuss how that sort of multitrack record idea existed with horse racing games like this one.
In 1980, Mad Magazine released a flexidisk called "It's A Super Spectacular Day" with 8 endings. I made a tape back then with all 8 endings.
I still have that flexi somewhere.
Mine's long gone but I remember that disc!
I don't have it anymore but I'm pretty sure I could sing every version for you right now. It's important that my limited mental real estate be taken up with such things.
Came here for this reply.
@@haweater1555 probably 40. Had to play it over and over to get all of them.
Okay, the title to the video is amazing. Really had to chuckle at that pun once I knew what record we’re talking about.
Punny titles are best titles.
I love the idea of a horse named Jimmy O'Goblin
I think I've read around of a horse named Hoof Hearted or something like that (dunno how it was spelled), you can imagine what it sounds like when the narrator reads it fast
Had picked Jimmy O'Goblin, sadly they finished in 3rd...
@@Kalvinjj That is brilliant - so funny 🤣🤣🤣
Picked Jimmy just for their name tbh
"Like a Homing Pigeon with Rolls-Royce engines!"
my daughter was doing math homework recently and told me that her math teacher was kind of goofy because she made up the silly units of measure in the problems. she thought her teacher made up the term furlong! i may need to correct her education with a field trip to the track.
Ha! And how many chains to the furlong? And how many yards to a chain?
Other fun units: bushels, stones.
And may they rot in a hole forever. SI or bust!
@@evilspoons laughs in US Customary Units.
@@johanneswerner1140 Don't forget weird weaving and spinning measures like 'ell'.
Teach her why units like Furlong should be abandoned in favor of SI.
The problem is that once you are familiar with how all 8 grooves sound, you know immediately what the outcomes are going to be. I was hoping the grooves constantly crossed one another making the entire race dynamic.
No, because then you've used all the sheets (or what those papers are called, I really don't know). Game over!
@@stevie-ray2020 good point!
@@stevie-ray2020 yep the record is just a slow and elaborate die cast.
Race night at the rotary club?
Of course I know what that is, I drive a RX-8.
I'll show myself out...
If I were British I'd call you a real Wankel...
I always liked the RX-7 and RX-8; no cylinders, no waiting. ZOOM!
bUt tHe ApEx SeALs BrO
Hey, nothing's perfect!
Ha!
🙄🙄🙄
As soon as I saw the name Deeside, I was like, "SkaterDee, Deeside? That's my horse!"
And then when it was running in last place, I was like, "Yeah, that figures." But then it came in first!
First edition of the Marillion concept album Brave has a double groove on the b-side, resulting in a different ending for the story. One has a ‘happy ending’ that includes the final song ‘made again’, while the other groove just goes out with an instrumental version of ‘the great escape’, ending on a sadder note and the protagonist not surviving. A masterpiece of an album and a good example of utilising multiple groove technology. Thank you for another interesting video, been a follower for years! Cheers
An amazing album
thought i'd seen it all when it comes to vinyl, never heard of this concept. thx for the vid!
I've been to a race night in recent years (literally a couple of years ago!) as a fund raiser for a theatre. Then again, that was on the Isle of Wight, so everything there is a few years (decades) behind the curve. Good fun.
Not only do I own that Monty Python record (first pressing, from a thrift store in Tennessee), but I was lucky enough to hang out with Terry Gilliam and he signed it! I was commissioned to make an award that was presented to him on his three-city stop in the US a few years ago. He said that people at the time just thought it was weird and didn’t get it.
On another note, there are several artists that have released multi-sided records in the last decade or so. Do a search for 6 sided record, 12 sided record, etc.
For even more randomness, pound the table with the record player on mid race :-)
I chose Deeside, I'm off to get a lottery ticket!
Same here too XD
Me too!
Me toooo!
@@andredasilvavidal3590 me 3, putting all my money on Red..
@@romanbukins6527 me too! it must be a popular horse
When I was little my gran had “The Wackiest Races On Record” which had 8 grooves on each side I think!! Fascinating :)
Ah, yes... “Matching Tie and Handkerchief.” I still have that one, having acquired it when I was at University back in the 70s. I well remember the time I started Side 2 and something different played. A couple friends and I examined the side and saw the double track. “How Python,” we exclaimed.
As I recall, both sides were labelled 'side 2'!
Fascinating! There was a mechanical horse race game that existed somewhere from the late 1920s into the 1930s. You can see an example of it in the Bela Lugosi movie "The Raven".
Would have loved to have played this with my Dad, as he was/is a horse race aficionado. In fact, he retired to Las Vegas so he can bet on any horse in the USA any day of the week ;)
They have world wide horse betting now with the internet. My friend runs the Pompano Horse Track AV room. Its pretty cool to go up in the announcer booth when there are no races and hang out. I bring my Oculus Quest up there and play VR games.
Didn't have Off Track Betting in your neck of the woods? Had one right around the block where we live well into the 21st century. Most of them have shut in New York but there's a few of them still around.
Problem is if he likes it that much, after a while you'll start memorizing the races and it loses the fun value. They should have make a mechanical board where the horses jitter around to create random results, would be much more fun to play with
@@chezsnailez Oh, they did down in So. California... He's simply retired now and love the Vegas buffett, etc. life
@@ryanmalin I have a friend at the NASA control tower training center in MT. View, California - where they train flight controllers - and the 'windows' are actually HD screens that can display whatever in 360-degrees. He once displayed the current Martian 3D imagery from the rovers in 3D - glasses and all! It was like nothing else I've experienced!
Who looks at a beautiful creature like a horse and decides to call it Jimmy O'Goblin
Ok, I don't feel the need to comment often, but your channel is, hands down, the most non-boring channel on youtube. I had no idea it was even possible to make a record with different recordings within other recordings. Fascinating! Thanks for all the effort you put in to make this channel fun.
Reminds me of an episode of Are You Being Served where "Inside Leg" wins.
Fun video, very odd game
How the fuck does this comment say it was from 5 days ago, this video was just published 30 minutes ago
@@thegreekgeek7252 perhaps some membership prerelease.
@@thegreekgeek7252 Patreon
I used to own that exact game! Got it for a quid in the market about 1979 I think, I thought it would be good for a Christmas gettogether. Never played though and I have no idea what happened to to it.
the Greek Geek Patrons my friend, Patrons. They get advanced access.
A friend has a techno record like this. If you bump the turntable mid track it would shunt it into an entirely different tune 🤣
"like a homing pigeon with Rolls Royce engines!" 3:34
lol
Hello from the U.S. Love your videos! This one was fun. Hope you are safe and healthy during this pandemic and keep bringing us more great content. Thank you for this entertaining and informative channel.
I saw Mad Magazine do this back in the late 70s. It was one of those plastic coated cardboard records. I always wondered how it worked!
Seems it was in 1980. I had it. Found it on TH-cam: th-cam.com/video/6mkHdnyr2RU/w-d-xo.html&feature=emb_logo&ab_channel=MarkFomAlbany
It's from 1980 actually: th-cam.com/video/myyc812X1_I/w-d-xo.html
@@BertGrink Thank you. OK, I had forgotten the actual date.
@@HittingImage Thanks. I had forgotten the original date.
@@daveperrussel5812 Sir, You've just earned +100 points for accepting a correction so gracefully; not many internet dwellers have such high class as you obviously do.
P.S. Spend your points wisely :D
I think that's also how those pull-string toys also worked with their creepy-sounding voices with seemingly random phrases, of course on a much smaller and shorter scale... :)
Also, I lost the bet, now I'm poor, dangit.......
Yes.
Steve Mould goes into it briefly here...
th-cam.com/video/yIoAYU_r0Uk/w-d-xo.html (7:53)
@@DEADB33F Just so you know, you're timestamp goes points at this video not Steve's.
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Interesting video, as always!
The 12" of Kate Bush's Sensual World single has a double groove. One plays the vocal version, the other plays the instrumental. Thing is, it's quite a long introduction before the vocals come in so you have time to place bets on which it is.
You may very well be the king of the obscure formats. Keep up the good work.
Our local fire department (volunteer) does a race night once a year. I've never gone but friends that go say it's a party atmosphere. Maybe because it's also a Bring Your Own Bottle event.
Most UK Race Nights in village halls and the like would have a temporary alcohol licence so as to extract money from two different vices at the same time.
For Techmoan it would be "Bring Your Own Media"!
What, no pancakes?
I had a board game called "And They're Off!" in the 90's..
No tech included.
Oh, yeah. I've seen the movie adaptation of it. Admittedly there was not much plot, only action, if you know what I mean.
@@protheu5 It was very racy.but yes if its the same one I'm thinking of.
Those records remind me of why I love watching horse races. It's so engaging, and it's never truly over 'til it's over.
You find the weirdest, most INTERESTING things from the world/past! You're awesome! Thank you for all your hard work! Cheers, mate!
I seem to remember going to a race night in a pub circa 99/2000, they were just using videos, by the looks of it. It was a pub by the sea, near a bunch of static caravan sites, though, so they probably had a different crowd in every week, who hadn't "learned" the races.
I always tried to organize these in my hometown but nobody came. I called them Race Wars, and I printed signs advertising "Race Wars, tonight at 8pm at the rec center." I was aways pretty sad nobody would attend.
@@ndcrd703 "recreation center"
I have heard of this games and it's records with the different outcomes but never knew how it worked. Thank you
This is fantastic! I literally just watched a documentary about Monty Python not two days ago in which they were talking about their album with the concentric tracks and mentioned the horse racing albums that were similar. I had never heard about Records like that before then.
Reminds me of the old Intellivision console Horse Race game. My family had so much fun betting and watching the race unfold.
I was wondering if anybody else would mention doing this on their Intellivision. I remember it being a lot of fun too.
I remember that game but I don't think I had it.
Friggin' Jimmy O' Goblin just cost me the farm!
Same here!
Me too.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Me too. I’ll never financially recover from this.
I remember race night down the local pub i went to in 90's, with friends.
You answered one question i had about it, whether every race was unique, or just the same played back over and over. I think it was some sort of video thing though i saw, in 90's.
What a cool idea! Seems like more artists would have used this for different endings to songs for instance. Thanks for bringing this to light Mr. Techmoan
I picked Deeside first place, first time hearing this, I might be on to something here, well I’m off to the horse races
My ran last lol
hahah me too! Got me quite exited tbh.
Well, see you at the turf
NATH C Ooh, I’m so sorry, hope you didn’t lose much
DirtyHairy1 see you soon
@@TimothyONeill_84. Lost a $50 mate! 💵😂
Echo Baby is gonna win this one! Got my life savings on it
Edit: I guess I'm bankrupt
I bet it all on Echo Baby, too. Now I’m living under a bridge.
I bet on him too, but I cheered up after he made it rain for the winner.
4th place ain't bad
@@solarwind3656 I am selling my blood tomorrow because I was told Jimmy O'Goblin was a sure thing lol
Bah, you can afford to live under a bridge?
Well done on 1 million subs, most deserved on TH-cam, so happy for you 👏 😀
First video recommendation, first clock of the day for me, Matt, and its content is AWESOME ^^
Thanks Techmoan for FAQ about the cheese sandwich. I was going to leave a comment asking about it, then thought "wait, maybe it's in the description. I'll read that, just this once."
But what if you put mayonnaise on the cheese sandwich? Is it then still a cheese sandwich, not being composed entirely of cheese and sandwich?
Dammit Echo Baby, you're cleanin' me out!
A friend of mine got Monty Python's "Matching Tie and Handkerchief" and played it on his record changer over and over and it always played the same track.
Later when he got it out to play it for me it played a completely different track.
It took us several minutes to figure out what was going on. It's still one of my very favorite Monty Python albums, all three sides!
I've watched your videos for some time now and you're still pulling out rabbits. I enjoyed this. Thank you!
I was born in 1992, a lot of this stuff you upload is new to me, and it's all great stuff
Mad magazine had a flexi record back in the 70's, it was a novelty song with multiple endings using the different spirals as ypu demonstrated
In graphic arts, I learned to keep the instructions as simple as possible.
Thank you Derick Dalton
Back in the 1980’s, a friend had a copy of MPFC’s, Matching Tie and Handkerchief. We could never get the third side to play until we used a magnifying lens to find each groves beginning. Recorded it on tape.
I used to have a Mad Magazine that came with a multi-groove record called "Super Spectacular Day" I believe there were 4 grooves on that one.
Garbage also released a 7” single (it was “Only Happy When It Rains”, 1995) with 2 tracks on the b-side recorded like that (but slightly edited in comparison their cd counterparts). Their label was investing heavily on the design and packaging of their singles from their early records.
Credits to Rob Hahn that corrected me. I initially mentioned "Queer" by mistake.
@Roh Hahn and that's how I lost on Jeopardy!
🤣
@Roh Hahn Comment updated with credits to you. :)
That's so cool. I never knew this existed. You learn something new everyday! Thanks for sharing!
Love all the awesome videos over the years!
The 12" single of Pop Muzik by M had two grooves on each side.
Kate Bush did one too, and a quick Google search turned up others.
Just one side of Pop Muzik I think, but yeah. Also, good record! (y)
@@richardgoddard37 which one was that?
@@alynicholls3230 I can't remember but according to Google it was the 12" of The Sensual World
That shirt plus the goatee my man is looking like a proper Bond villain.
Also kinda like Hide the pain Harald:)
This channel has so much original content, amazing!!
Congrats on 1M subs ... I just noticed. Well-deserved!
I picked Deeside. I felt like an effing genius!
I picked Young Rascal and felt like God when he was off to a good start. But it all went downhill from there.
ditto!
Love double-groove recorcds; I had a 10" copy of LL Cool J's track Going Back To Cali that could play that or Jack The Ripper depending on where the needle dropped!
Thanks Matt - at the age of 80, I learned something today about multi groove records. Can't believe I missed this technology having lived through the 78s era and with an interest in stereo and hi fi over the years when it was all new. I wondered why the pick-up was tracking the LP so fast. Now I know.
We had these race nights a couple of times a year in our village social club - the DVD version, right up to around 2 years ago! They used to raise quite a bit of money for good causes, and the kids loved it!
Neat! I wasn't aware that randomly playing records were ever a thing. Great video, as always
Monty Python released one
Perfect Scouse really let me down.
Never saw that in the States, but really enjoyed that. Fun, quirky stuff. Thanks for sharing
Wow over a million subs now? How time flies. Congrats!
I had one of these, over time these records show a 'preference' as it only takes the needle following one groove a few mores times than the others for that groove to be worn in more - and once worn in then that groove will be 'selected' more, and when selected more becomes worn in more . . . etc etc . . . basically after some use the record always selects the same winner.
@@_DeadEnd_ So it's more random than the record but not completely random so it isn't random?
@@EssenceofPureFlavor From what we understand nothing is random, only increasingly difficult to predict.
@@robertromero8692 _"Presumably, a CD with random selection tracks wouldn't have that problem"_
Not sure random track selection is possible with the Blue Book CD standard, but nowadays you'd do it with software anyway, on your phone/tablet/computer . . . and so a track wearing in wouldn't be an issue !
@@davelordy But between the two, a random number generator is exponentially less likely to get repeating results than physically placing a needle on a record. These things are quantifiable.
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_"a random number generator is exponentially less likely to get repeating results than physically placing a needle on a record"_
I'm not sure that's true, you might be right but my instincts are telling me that to know _anything_ (like X is more likely or Y is less likely) about a system necessarily means you are not dealing with a random system (?), and ultimately there would be no way of knowing as you cannot tell whether a system is random or not by its product. Also the goal of a random generator would not be to get more or less repetition . . . a random system would have nothing to say about the amount of repetition in its product.
I have dim memories of this being shown on How 2 a very very long time ago. Or something very much like it.
I've heard about these type of vinyls, and I always wondered how they operate. Thank you for providing ths video!
Thank you. Very interesting game and record. I did not know that a company could record so many different recording on one record.
"The Horse had probably been dead 10 years" haha.
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The glue that holds the label on.
Would like to know technically how difficult it is to master and cut a disc with multiple grooves? That would make an interesting video...
My guess is that it would be finicky but not too bad. The engineer would need to have the recording stylus move toward the center 8x faster than usual, and then move the starting position 45 degrees to cut the next track the same way. By doing that the tracks shouldn't overlap.
@@thesledgehammerblog I had the same question. Sounds plausible, but man, that 8th track must be a nail-biter... it's got only one little gap running through the previous 7 grooves... I guess the cutter must be damnnnnn accurate.
@@abandoned-mines-novascotia One groove or 8 requires the same accuracy, and they are very accurate. And, this only has to be done once because once the master is made, the records are all pressed from that which doesn't require any accuracy at all.
Hi, does anyone know where it‘s possible to produce such a vinyl record?
I had no idea these kinds of records existed... amazing! Thanks for sharing!
Wow, that's quite an amazing invention for old technology. I actually saw one back in the 1970s but, while I knew of the different sets of grooves, I didn't quite understand how the starting position of the needle would determine which track it would follow. It makes perfectly good sense now, thanks for explaining.
They also did a 7 Inch Version, Your version was done by The Mirror newspaper who owned The Sporting Life racing paper
Was the 7 inch version for greyhounds? 😂
@@stepheng8779 It was about 4 years ago when i bought it but since sold it on, it was on £5 or so, as i remember now it was a similar type game, but it was a 7 inch flexy record and was horse racing as well, though i can not remember if it was 8 horses in a race or not, but defiantly no more than 8.
06:17 It was actually very entertaining to listen to - I had high hopes for my pick, but of course he was surpassed right at the end and came in second. #Shait.
the band Rush had a promotional multisided record called Rush 'N' Roulette, which would randomly pick a small portion of a song from their tour album "Exit Stage Left" (6 songs on each side, though they're the same 6 songs on each side). great video!
Thank you for covering this. De la soul me myself and I single has parallel grooves on it too