@@AndyDunproofin yes.. are you the mixer that does mash ups? I just entered dunproofin on poweramp and I got few mixes like Freddie goes to Hollywood and tears for fears to belinda Carlisle and opus 3 to hard fi with daft punk.
My jaw literally dropped when you opened up that Ben Liebrand album, but learning about how much goes into producing the new DCC releases was equally impressive!
I don’t. I had two, top-of-the-range Sharp portable MD recorders, one after the other, and they both broke down and were beyond economic repair. I look after my stuff fastidiously, and I’ve never had similar issues with anything else.
@@nkt1 pretty accurate, the mechanisms wear pretty quickly with regular use. I’d says each player had a lifespan of around 2 years or so. Still loved the concept.
@QraQrJaq That is a load of crap. Have a look at how many MD players there are on EBay. All still working perfectly after 20 years. I’m a collector and never had one quit on me.
I thought I heard "Banned CDs" and not "Band CDs" and thought these albums that were talked about were albums that were not able to be released in the UK. Then I was like OH! BAND CDs! LOL
Funny enough, I misheard it as well, but in a totally different way: I thought it was "Ban CDs!" as in a rallying cry to bring back defunct audio recording formats. :D
It is generally assumed that CDs are from bands... Well, you know. Some people had porno CDs in the day. I guess he was just making sure we understood his collection.
I have hardly heard of DCC as a format, and certainly don't have the kit. Yet, enjoyed every single moment of this highly informative video! Your balance of information, geeky information and delight is a real joy to watch and this is one of my Saturday treats as I sit down for a shift at work! As always, thank you!
I release my band's songs at 48kh & 24bit, but it is recorded at 96kh 24bit at -4db so that there is NEVER any clipping, I *LOATHE* the destroyed music due to the high compression/clipping that is known as 'The Loudness Wars' - where Metallica dropped the Hiroshima of clipped garbage known as *Death Magnetic* ... This said, the end of this video was great! All the hard work and dedication that was involved to record that album onto cassettes! I adore this channel so much! :)
"And the lead is even rarer than the machine......only 1400 made" Me to wifey.........."I bet he has got one" Next scene........Matt produces a lead ! :-) Great video and the packaging is mind blowing........like you say, should get an award.
Ben Liebrand is a legend in the Netherlands. He probably influenced all famous dutch dj's. Who remembers fridaynight 21.00u back in the mid/late 80's?😁👍 (exactly 2 records past nine every fridaynight in the mid-late 80's at a very popular radioshow called Curry&Van Inkel (later Stenders&Van Inkel) a minimix from Ben Liebrand was broadcasted)
This is so weird... I see this video, get curious about the DCC format which I hadn’t heard about before so I Google DCC and find out the DCC Museum is literally down the block from my house. I had no clue it was here! Maybe I’ll have to check it out soon, thank you for the info!
Fascinating stuff. Brings back memories of me having discussions with a colleague over the pros and cons of DCC and minidisc. He eventually bought a DCC deck but I considered the minidisc a better format and eventually bought a Sony MZ-R3. It's good to know someone is still making use of this formats in 2020.
@@NaoPb I'm saying that it's should be far more than it is lol. New old stock cassettes, old machines, having to use archaic machines which are comparable with windows 95, using dodgy parallel ports, and that gorgeous printing.
@@anonymousarmadillo6589 I think the cassettes are only supposed to be limited run collectibles, so the artists are selling them at cost. The artists most likely make all their money from selling digital albums and playing shows.
Wow - Ben Leibrand - he did those War of the Worlds remixes in the 90’s - nice to see he visited the studio that houses TONTO (The MOOG modular briefly seen in the video clips) Tonto’s Expanding Headbands’s synth used by Malcolm Cecil & Robert Margouleff in the 70’s. I’d love that box.
This review of the new Iconic Groove DCC came at a very appropriate time, as I just ordered and received a copy of the new album, as I recently joined the DCC Museum as a Patreon member. Ralf is very helpful, I previously obtained my refurbished DCC recorder though Ralf at the DCC museum. They certainly help keep the format going for those of us who do follow it. There doesn't seem to be a parallel organization for the DAT.
I haven't got words for this video-this is really something else. :) On a side note, we do appreciate that the TH-cam video progress bar is indexed, and I wish more creators would take advantage of this. It's like looking at a track listing while the music / book is playing. Some videos have a fan or an associate who puts a timestamp listing in the comments, which is also very considerate.
I love this channel so much. I never knew other people were interested in media formats and Hi Fi equipment as much as I am. I would kill to be able to play around with some of the equipment that he has for a day.
Thanks Mat, more DCC's always very welcome in my book! Such a good job of the tape shell printing that they've done, looks so major-label professional. The music concept for Late Night Sci-Fi sounds like it'll be right up my street too, must head over to their Bandcamp.
@@Techmoan I wonder what tool they use to do that. I've been working work with my friends and myself to produce that type of a printout for various video game tracks. It would be interesting and exciting if they used the same ones as we do (ie. SidWiz, Corrscope).
If you'd fly KLM in 1996, perhaps even in 1997, you could have bought this exact DCC 175 at significant discount price. I don't remember details now, I think they offered just a player too (probably 170), but I was shopping for DCC at that time and to my great surprise the price from KLM's on-board catalogs (they used to offer them on international flights) was definitely lowest from what I could find anywhere else, including lower Manhattan's cheapest warehouse-stores. edit/ Well, it still was expensive, but at least they offered it at true duty-free price and applied additional 10% discount for paying with "partnership" credit card (that starts with "Am..." in it's name) which made it cheapest I could find. I didn't knew it back then - but apparently it was sort of a clearance sale of an already dead format...
Really want a Dat Machine or a DCC. I got into Elcaset from your video from a few years back and love the format. Keeping my eyes out for an EL-7 but crazy expensive nowadays Other than the High end Victor model shown in the video, there really isn’t many attractive DCC machines imo. The ES Sony dat decks are stunning by comparison.
DCC 175, nice little machine, today used for some limited mass recoding. But it's obviously not designed for such a task. I wonder what was and what happened to all the real heavy duty DCC pro hardware for authoring and mass production from the 90's ?
Wow! More interesting facts about digital formats. I actually released my first album on internet platforms, Spotify, Amazon etc. from the Mini Disc format to my computer. I'm going to re-release it on Bandcamp though with a few bonus tracks just for sentimental reasons. I simply love digital technology and everything that comes with it. Thanks Techmoan for your wisdom.
"Prospects for future releases on this format are brighter than they were last year .." Well, that is until they run out of 'new" old stock though, right? How many blank dubbing DCC blanks do they still have left, if there aren't any new ones being made?
Most things are better before they run out of them. What I was saying about the prospects though was that there are now two duplication facilities for future DCC releases - or in hyperbole speak ‘a 100% increase on 2019’. I understand the DCC Museum have several thousand tapes - so sufficient for quite a few years of small scale releases.
The DCC Tape istelf is near identical to compact cassette tapes, to be specific cobalt Type II tape and Type 3 tape. So at least that should still be available, the rest is some plastic and sheet metal. Re-starting a low-scale production should be possible if required.
Cassettes are easy to make and analog cassettes are in production again. Unfortunately the special tape you need for a DCC (essentially chrome video tape) cannot be made anymore because of the pollution it generates. It's probably a problem that we may be able to work around in the future though. Unfortunately the heads are a different problem: when those are gone, they're gone.
Love this channel! While streaming media has its place, you are really only renting it. Unless you rip the media you stream to local storage, anything you “buy” from a streaming service only exists as long as the seller hosts it. Physical media is only as good as long as it lasts or there is something to play it, but at least you usually have an option to move it from one format to another.
I had a listen to Ben Liebrand - Iconic Groove on spotify, and I loved it! It's like I'm back in the 90's! I wish prerecorded media were still around. It might just be nostalgia, but they seem to make you really listen to music. That's why I still rock my beloved Sansa mp3 player, It's middle ground and closer to that than my phone or PC ever could be. But back in the 90's if I had the convenience of mp3/FLAC files or even better, spotify, I would NOT think twice before ditching my cassettes.
Yes, this is what I enjoy about HiFi systems are the play back / record formats, it's not all about looking for that next DAC unit, but for me it how good you can get the older analog formats to sound. That why I am now building own HiFi equipment, such as radio tuners and cassette decks. As this is the only way I can get best out of these formats, as every thing now seems to be low end and made at the lowest possible cost. As Matt has shown through his Techmoan Boombox videos, there so little available these days that is any good, yet you can do so much more with electronics today than what was possible 30 years ago.
@@standupstraight9691 because they last so long.......cd-r audio sucks for recording, the most burned CDS only last for 10 years. Minidisc, cassette tape and dcc Will last forever.
@@GustoTheGamer Magnetic tape most certainly won't last forever. Even ignoring the mechanical issues, they naturally demagnetize with time. Also, CD-R is good for more than a decade. Source: my CD-Rs from the turn of the century.
@@GustoTheGamer I have CD-R's from literally 1995 (recorded at work, no-one had a CD recorder at home in those days) that still work great. Some time in the 2000s, recordable CD media got hit by the "cheap is good enough" virus so prices went down from $20 to $0.20 but quality went from "lasts at least 10 years" to "lasts until you take it out of the recorder".
Hi Techmoan! I'm a huge fan and subscriber of your channel for years now, and I enjoy your videos everytime! But to be fair, I believe you spend too much time and energy on the DCC and MiniDisc formats. Both of these lived for just a fraction of time and became quickly obsolete. It is awesome though that through your videos, you introduced them to people who didn't know their existence - such as me. And it was very interesting to learn about those audio fortmats I never thought existed. But, even though some new music releases do come on DCC and/or MiniDisc, let's be honest, it can't be considered as a "comeback", like the vinyl records' one for example. Plus, one has to buy the music players for each one of those formats, so it makes it even harded for them to be available to the general public. As a long time viewer and subscriber of yours, I would suggest you to focus on other audio formats/gadgets/players/machines etc. It really makes more sense, than spending time, energy and in some intances, money for these obsolete formats. As always though I did enjoy a lot your video, and I'm eager for the next ones. Be well! 😊
I'll have to get that Ben Liebrand release as I love housey groovy music. It seems to be influenced by classic late 70s -80s NYC disco too which is a great !
As much as I love your videos, I still miss seeing the puppets. I understand you pretty much stopped because you have said what you wanted with them, but I still hold out hope they will make an appearance every now and then!
It's funny, when the two formats were coming out (dcc and minidisc) I was certain I'd be a dcc adopter. The knock on minidiscs was that it was lossy, which went against every fiber of my being. Then on second look, I found it was a truly perfect fit for the car and a portable. Thanks for the channel, content and all you do TM.
MiniDiscs was more lossy than DCC. Eventually Sony came up with better formats because they kept going and did stuff like using new lasers, whereas Philips threw the towel in the ring in 1996. DAT is lossless though.
I didn't remember DCC was lossy, maybe the fact that it was less lossy coupled with me having a very good cassette deck for that time (Teac R919-X) had me leaning DCC. But no matter how lossy, MiniDisc was the better format. You could easily edit them down to the microsecond level over and over and over again for mix "discs". Also, they were considerably less susceptible to skips than CDs (a big deal of the time). But you could still access any track almost immediately and add text which only a scarce few CDs of the time had, and then required special equipment to use.
@@dolfandon7124 In hindsight, DCC had no chance of being successful against MD, CD-R/RW, hard disks and sold state. I believe there are no parallel universes or timelines where DCC would have existed after 2005 or so if Philips hadn't killed it in 1996. Even if they would have added features like longer tapes (or lower tape speed to record e.g. mp3 at 192kbps) or the ability to record on analog cassettes, the format was basically still-born. But in 1988 when Philips started developing it, when everyone was replacing their LP's with CD's and prerecorded cassette sales were on the decline, it totally made sense. Watch the DCC documentary on TH-cam, and also Gijs Wirtz' presentation in 2019 to learn more. th-cam.com/video/WDS5MF9hZY8/w-d-xo.html
I totally agree Jac. Given the mindset of the day (when hifi VCRs were a thing), it at least seemed plausible a tape format could work. But certainly not in hindsight!
I'm in the US and never really even saw DCC players or cassettes here but these videos make me really appreciate them. I kind of wish I'd paid more attention to them at the time.
I still have a DCC 730 & a portable DCC recorder but not the very rare one shown. Both are at the bottom of a very full large cupboard. I might have to try & get them out again to have a little play with them after seeing this video!
Thank you for the update on these and the history lesson while I was here. I sadly have neither of these formats at the moment, but I am always on the lookout. Cheers!
Había escuchado sobre el reproductor y grabador de "DCC" (philips) multimedia. Pero en América latina (México) nunca se vendió. Aún conservo mis dos reproductores grabador de Minidisc. Y uno de ellos, es "NetMD" y lo tengo funcionando en Windows 10 de 32bit. Cuando era joven (1990) era mi sueño, tener un "DCC Philips" pero en América latina, no se vendió... Y en Estados Unidos, era muy poco conocido... Proliferó más el "Minidisc" que el DCC.... Exelente video, gran trabajo de investigación....
You know that when an album box has a 3.5mm headphone jack, Apple needs to get its collective junk together (seriously, this is all some very cool stuff!)
I agree with the sentiment, but we should consider that it's Apple. The Apple II series computers were nice, as well as some Mac exclusive games, but I wouldn't miss the Apple company.
I love vintage Philips equipment. I have been upcycling Philips HiFi for years before it became vintage. I am in the process of selling my Philips reel to reel N 4515. Its the ugliest tape deck ever, yet it has so many gadgets of any home tape deck of its time. If you don't know it, you should take a look. Really popular at the moment and still going strong. The old girl needs a bit of TLC and I don't have the time to sort the little problems out at the moment so I have taken my Philips N 7150 out of mothballs as it was serviced prior to being put away, and now I have a Beautiful looking deck on display that I don't need to make excuses for. I love what you do. Reminds me of what I used to do back in the day. 🙂👍
Still find it strange that until this channel, I not only never saw a DCC machine, but never even heard of the format. This is even though in the 90's I was working for a company that made digital audio recording equipment, and I actually used to own a DAT recorder, so this must have been one of the most low key product launches ever. I never owned a Minidisc either, but at least I knew they existed. A shame as it does look like a really good format.
I was using a DCC recorder at university in 1992 to collect sound effects from around town to use in our city's theater groups. We'd have a list of the scenes and then we'd go around the city collecting samples to use in the 'soundtrack'. We loved the digital editing tools at the time. Much better than the labor intensive process of manually splicing and editing tape.
Ben Liebrand did make mixing famous in the Netherlands and inspired many great Dutch DJ's, like Armin van Buuren, Ferry Corsten and Tiesto. Ben Liebrand also remixed a lot of tracks from famous artists and his most famous remix was in the air tonight, from Phil Collins. Every year he makes a yearmix, called the Grandmix.
We love the sound of the DCC!!! We mixdown our recorded multi track music from our TASCAM DP-32 direct to DCC, and the quality is so good we do not master our final product! You can hear our albums on our TH-cam channel.
As usual, here's the viewer that completely misses the point and gets distracted by the mysterious Technics machine seen on top of the DCC player at 5:30. It appears to be some kind of reverb amplifier (Technics calls it a "Space Dimension Controller"), which makes me wonder if it's just for the nice display or has Mat changed his mind about reverb. Hopefully I have now spoiled some future video and we'll get to see more of that device and what it does
2:30 - "CDs ... better than any recording you've ever heard" ... proceeds to play lo-fi with worse quality than a cassette tape recording played through a wobbly gramophone.
Nice, I have that Philips portable recorder. And in the day, me and my nephew now Ben’s brother Rob. We where always busy with music and computer in the day.
I still have a Sony MZ-RH10 for my MiniDisc needs (albeit it doesn't take power from the wall anymore - or rather, it doesn't charge the battery with this way). I love those old formats a whole lot - they are great and wonderful. There is still so much you can do with some of them and use them for, perhaps, abstract projects. I use MiniDisc as a way to listen to Audiobooks as a voice recording doesn't neccessarily need to be 320kbps - 128 or even just 64 is enough and can allow a Hi-MD to fit a load of stuff. I marvel at these old things, especially if there are still people committed to them!
When I first heard about DCC as a teenager back in the '90s, I thought it was going to be the next big thing in music and really wanted a player for myself. I was most excited about the idea of blank DCCs for faithful recordings from CD and the radio. But there were several factors working against the DCC. 1) DCC players were outlandishly expensive. They never made it into affordable boom boxes, etc. I guess there was one Walkman-style device, but it too was very pricey. And it was only a player; it wasn't designed to record from a CD player. DCC players were niche, and I certainly couldn't afford one. 2) CD-R, CD-RW, DVD-RW, etc. enabled digital recordings without the hassle of rewinding and fast-forwarding through a cassette to find the track you want. 3) Car CD players became more widely available. People would record their CDs on regular cassettes to listen to them in the car, but then that became unnecessary. 4) MP3 made it possible to keep your whole CD collection on your computer, and later, on portable devices like the iPod and other MP3 players. You could even record MP3s onto CDs and put large collections of music on just one disc. I did this so I wouldn't have to change CDs in the car, and I upgraded my car stereo to one that could play MP3 (or WMV in my case since the files were smaller) CDs. If DCCs and players had come out 10 years earlier, they would have been hugely successful.
Astonishing! DCC is another format besides SACD that is going to sound great; I can hardly wait to get myself a couple of DCCs. By the way, Techmoan is one of my favourite TH-cam channels; and this is why I tune in.
Surprised to see TONTO in one of the video clips, would be interested in finding out what that was about, as I don't know whether it's set up and working at the moment (the circular racks of synths).
Just a thought. Wonder if you could by a generic box ? Be fantastic to record a video and use for a special present. For example a 21st birthday present containing a nice watch with a video from parents and friends ?
Yes - here's an Affiliated Amazon UK link - amzn.to/3kYnwuD - but if you want to go non-affiliated, type Video Brochure into Amazon (or a retailer of your choosing). It would make a nice surprise for someone special.
@@Techmoan Fantastic idea, and not a bad price tbh. www.amazon.co.uk/JVSISM-Greeting-Graduation-Birthday-Surprise/dp/B086VGXPYS/ref=pd_sbs_201_5/260-9401367-0950636?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B086VGXPYS&pd_rd_r=39de244a-939b-46d3-aff4-b699e0a3ec31&pd_rd_w=DpoxP&pd_rd_wg=narsq&pf_rd_p=2304238d-df78-4b25-a9a0-b27dc7bd722e&pf_rd_r=77NRRBR2240JAV1VZCFZ&psc=1&refRID=77NRRBR2240JAV1VZCFZ
@@firescoob999 That is just the coolest thing I have seen in a while. I just ordered one to use as a christmas present to send to some very good friends 🙂
It was only a matter of time till a retro physical release of a vaporwave album would be featured in these types of vids. I'm into the genre though and based on the snippet at 2:15 and what the concept of the album is, it looks right up my alley. nice.
To think that the survival of the entire format, depended on one single new feature on the very last model produced and a cable accessory (so, an extra that could have as well never been released) . And in such small numbers. Like a hand extending from the past just barely enough to connect the DCC to a chain of retro compatible devices that keeps it alive, 25 years later. Wow.
I have one of those portable dcc machines, bought in Finland cheaply when the electronics shops wanted to get rid of the format. Sadly I don't have the data cable. In recent years I have used it only as a C-cassette player when converting old tapes, it plays them with good quality. As I remember it, using dcc tapes was fiddly, the head must be absolutely clean, and starting a recording is more complex than with an analogue cassette. It must record some kind of lead-in, bit like formatting floppies. I also have a couple of virgin blank tapes. Wonder if the machine and tapes eventually become valuable and finance my retirement on a Caribbean island...
Suddenly something in my brain reactivated.I remember the name "Ben Liebrand" from the 1980ties. I found his mixes so cool as a kid, I was waiting for them to start on the radio and recorded them on audio cassette. And suddenly more memories come back from my childhood.
I love your videos but, for a few weeks now, they don't seem to have any subtitles even days after being uploaded, making them sometimes relatively hard to understand. Is it a bug from You Tube, or did you change someting in your audio or your presets? I think the last one with sub' was your video on the Tapete. Before this one, there was no problems and everything was fine. After this one, no subtitles anymore… Do you think it would be possible to get them back? For foreign people, but also English speakers with hearing troubles I bet, it would really really be way more practical ^^ !
Don't rule the DCC format out either. Afterall vinyl is making a comeback, 110 camera film (lomography) and 126 film is making a comeback so I don't think it would be a stretch to see vintage formats revived in limited "batch" collections. Personally I would love to see the DCC Museum process applied to conventional Analog Cassettes and SACD recordings. Especially the artwork, its bright and colorful and oozes quality and detail.
I always thought MD was a much better format than DCC - instant track access, and a non-contact system meaning no heads to wear out or need cleaning. Interesting video though and it's great to know that some people are trying to keep these old formats alive.
i'll repeat how lucky i was in my trip to Netherlands back in the nineties. i bought a dcc almost by chance by the fact it played old tapes, but also tapes with cd quality.
If I understand correctly it's just recording data to the tape - the conversion to that data was done in the PC software, but to the DCC175 it's just seen as another file.
I guess there will always be a demand for physical music formats, there is just something different about having and listening to music in a physical format compared to having hundreds of albums on a mobile phone that can be accessed in seconds.
I am firmly in the other camp. I have always disliked CD's and cassettes because I hardly ever like all the tracks of 1 physical item. sure I will listen to the whole album at first to get to know it, but pretty soon I decide I want to listen to track 1,2,5,8,9 and 12 all the time, occasionally to 4,6 and 11 and NEVER again to 3, 7 and 10. Having thousands of tracks together and being able to delete and skip and make my own selections is the best thing ever. The only time I used a CD in the past 20 years is when I had a car without audio in jack.
@@Blackadder75 couldn't agree more. The mixtape was king for that reason and later on came the playlist. I remember giving the local music store, a list of tracks they would dub into a cassette for us, instead of buying a whole cd with tracks we didn't like. I never missed making mixtapes though. I still do in Spotify as playlists that I end up playing back in shuffle. Cassettes were replaced by CD-RWs and soon after that by Mp3s in micro SDs. (there's a rap rhyme in here somewhere). And now by subscription services like spotify.
@@ivok9846 I tried hundreds, I am just very picky, I like very different styles of music from acoustic rock to new wave to techno, but never everything 1 group or artist makes
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I can't get enough of this channel, I would literally watch you describe paint drying, one of the best TH-cam tech channels......LOVE IT ❤
@Marc Carran oh you 👍🏻
BIG true! ✨👍🏻
I prefer bigClive tbh
I know where you are coming from. My favorite channel is a groundhog eating vegetables in a guy's backyard in Delaware.
@Marc Carran 😂😂😂
Ben Liebrand, now there is a name I haven't heard in a while. He'd do the Liebrand mini mix on Dutch radio (Radio Veronica) in the late 80s.
He still does! But this time on Radio 10 (dutch radio). He also keeps the grandmixes alive for more than 20 years
Yes I'm a big fan of his grand mixes from 80s and a couple from early 90s. He's recently done loads of mini mixes mashups which are on TH-cam. 👌
Wasn’t he heavily involved with DMC also ? Not surprised the quality of this release is high.
@@AndyDunproofin yes.. are you the mixer that does mash ups? I just entered dunproofin on poweramp and I got few mixes like Freddie goes to Hollywood and tears for fears to belinda Carlisle and opus 3 to hard fi with daft punk.
@@simonsaysrewind heh .... guilty.
My jaw literally dropped when you opened up that Ben Liebrand album, but learning about how much goes into producing the new DCC releases was equally impressive!
It’s really cool that there are people keeping some of these older formats alive, I really wish I’d hung on to my minidisc player myself.
I don’t. I had two, top-of-the-range Sharp portable MD recorders, one after the other, and they both broke down and were beyond economic repair. I look after my stuff fastidiously, and I’ve never had similar issues with anything else.
@@nkt1 pretty accurate, the mechanisms wear pretty quickly with regular use. I’d says each player had a lifespan of around 2 years or so. Still loved the concept.
@QraQrJaq That is a load of crap. Have a look at how many MD players there are on EBay. All still working perfectly after 20 years. I’m a collector and never had one quit on me.
I thought I heard "Banned CDs" and not "Band CDs" and thought these albums that were talked about were albums that were not able to be released in the UK. Then I was like OH! BAND CDs! LOL
Funny enough, I misheard it as well, but in a totally different way: I thought it was "Ban CDs!" as in a rallying cry to bring back defunct audio recording formats. :D
Me too!!!!
Audio Nasties
It is generally assumed that CDs are from bands... Well, you know. Some people had porno CDs in the day. I guess he was just making sure we understood his collection.
This reminded me of Band in China
I have hardly heard of DCC as a format, and certainly don't have the kit. Yet, enjoyed every single moment of this highly informative video! Your balance of information, geeky information and delight is a real joy to watch and this is one of my Saturday treats as I sit down for a shift at work! As always, thank you!
I release my band's songs at 48kh & 24bit, but it is recorded at 96kh 24bit at -4db so that there is NEVER any clipping, I *LOATHE* the destroyed music due to the high compression/clipping that is known as 'The Loudness Wars' - where Metallica dropped the Hiroshima of clipped garbage known as *Death Magnetic* ... This said, the end of this video was great! All the hard work and dedication that was involved to record that album onto cassettes! I adore this channel so much! :)
"And the lead is even rarer than the machine......only 1400 made"
Me to wifey.........."I bet he has got one"
Next scene........Matt produces a lead ! :-)
Great video and the packaging is mind blowing........like you say, should get an award.
Ben Liebrand is a legend in the Netherlands. He probably influenced all famous dutch dj's.
Who remembers fridaynight 21.00u back in the mid/late 80's?😁👍
(exactly 2 records past nine every fridaynight in the mid-late 80's at a very popular radioshow called Curry&Van Inkel (later Stenders&Van Inkel) a minimix from Ben Liebrand was broadcasted)
I'll have to check out his old mixes as I love that era of dance music.
Thats cool! ✨👍🏻
When I saw his name it brought me back to the 90's and 538
Or the "grand mix 19xx" at the end of the year on "Veronica"
Yeah, he was the first mixing DJ in the Netherlands, I always loved his yearmixes; the Grandmix.
This is so weird... I see this video, get curious about the DCC format which I hadn’t heard about before so I Google DCC and find out the DCC Museum is literally down the block from my house. I had no clue it was here! Maybe I’ll have to check it out soon, thank you for the info!
No way!! That is awesome!!
Hello fellow socal night owl
Happy to show you around.
Make sure you get a tour! They're going to move soon.
@@JacGoudsmit oh damn really?? Do you happen to know when/where?
Fascinating stuff. Brings back memories of me having discussions with a colleague over the pros and cons of DCC and minidisc. He eventually bought a DCC deck but I considered the minidisc a better format and eventually bought a Sony MZ-R3. It's good to know someone is still making use of this formats in 2020.
For a nearly dead format I'd honestly expect the printing costs for a new album to be way more than the £20-30 range you showed.
Per cassette right?
@@anonymousarmadillo6589 That's what it looked like.
@@anonymousarmadillo6589 Seeing that someone has to physically do all the work, that's still pretty reasonable.
@@NaoPb I'm saying that it's should be far more than it is lol. New old stock cassettes, old machines, having to use archaic machines which are comparable with windows 95, using dodgy parallel ports, and that gorgeous printing.
@@anonymousarmadillo6589 I think the cassettes are only supposed to be limited run collectibles, so the artists are selling them at cost. The artists most likely make all their money from selling digital albums and playing shows.
Wow - Ben Leibrand - he did those War of the Worlds remixes in the 90’s - nice to see he visited the studio that houses TONTO (The MOOG modular briefly seen in the video clips) Tonto’s Expanding Headbands’s synth used by Malcolm Cecil & Robert Margouleff in the 70’s. I’d love that box.
Great to see Late Night Sci-Fi on here! It was so fun mastering it. Working with AFDS is always a pleasure.
That intro of Ben Liebrand's video box reminds me sooo much of his famous Grand Mix releases; he's still got it! ;)
I taped some recently... absolutely love them! And I had already heard of this album - just not on DCC.
That is positively brilliant. The packaging is fantastic. So impressed! As usual Techmoan you are fantastic and always enjoy watching. #goldstandard 😉
Brilliant Matt. It's fantastic that people are keeping your technological history alive for future generations.
Ben Liebrand, master mixer. Mixed the iconic 'Grandmix's' in the eighties. I loved those.
Likewise. I used to tape them off our local radio station in Gloucestershire of all places 😆
That boxed DCC release was beautiful
When you opened that big box and revealed the inside, my jaw dropped. Artists never cease to amuse me with the new ideas they come up with.
I just love that there are small niche companies and small operations making all kinds of amazing things for retro technology!
This review of the new Iconic Groove
DCC came at a very appropriate time,
as I just ordered and received a copy
of the new album, as I recently joined
the DCC Museum as a Patreon member.
Ralf is very helpful, I previously obtained my refurbished DCC recorder though Ralf at the DCC museum. They certainly help
keep the format going for those of us who do follow it. There doesn't seem to be a parallel organization for the DAT.
I haven't got words for this video-this is really something else. :)
On a side note, we do appreciate that the TH-cam video progress bar is indexed, and I wish more creators would take advantage of this. It's like looking at a track listing while the music / book is playing. Some videos have a fan or an associate who puts a timestamp listing in the comments, which is also very considerate.
I love this channel so much. I never knew other people were interested in media formats and Hi Fi equipment as much as I am. I would kill to be able to play around with some of the equipment that he has for a day.
I really wanna see the awards for best packaging.
The Grammys have 2 categories for album packaging.
Ya might have to contact Matt's grandson in spirit Scott the Woz about that.
At 3:07 that just blew me away... amazing packaging, with player 'n all.
Cool! There is definitely something special about the DCC format.
Yeah it is interesting, but honestly i prefer more regular analog tapes. They have more „retro cool looking” vibe to it. But ofc its just an opinion
@@rozanylas never appealed to me. I alreay had a DAT for years when DCC came out. Looked like a step back to me.
There is?
I woke up from a bad dream and your voice is as soothing as ever
I wouldn't advise _ASMR for the Hard of Hearing,_ then. ;) th-cam.com/video/ES75W5wrdmc/w-d-xo.html
This is a fascinating and brilliantly researched, written and constructed video. A real pleasure to watch. Thank you Techmoan!
Thanks Mat, more DCC's always very welcome in my book! Such a good job of the tape shell printing that they've done, looks so major-label professional. The music concept for Late Night Sci-Fi sounds like it'll be right up my street too, must head over to their Bandcamp.
the individual instrument sound visualization is pretty cool
That’s one of my favourites too - that whole track is like that.
@@Techmoan that's all it needs!
@@Techmoan I wonder what tool they use to do that. I've been working work with my friends and myself to produce that type of a printout for various video game tracks.
It would be interesting and exciting if they used the same ones as we do (ie. SidWiz, Corrscope).
Great product from the DCC Museum, and Ben Liebrandt is a legend! 👌
This man is bringing back old formats, and I love it. I just wish I had the players to play them.
If you'd fly KLM in 1996, perhaps even in 1997, you could have bought this exact DCC 175 at significant discount price. I don't remember details now, I think they offered just a player too (probably 170), but I was shopping for DCC at that time and to my great surprise the price from KLM's on-board catalogs (they used to offer them on international flights) was definitely lowest from what I could find anywhere else, including lower Manhattan's cheapest warehouse-stores.
edit/ Well, it still was expensive, but at least they offered it at true duty-free price and applied additional 10% discount for paying with "partnership" credit card (that starts with "Am..." in it's name) which made it cheapest I could find. I didn't knew it back then - but apparently it was sort of a clearance sale of an already dead format...
As always, your videos scratch my itch for nostalgia.
Thank you for putting that much of your time into it.
Really want a Dat Machine or a DCC. I got into Elcaset from your video from a few years back and love the format. Keeping my eyes out for an EL-7 but crazy expensive nowadays
Other than the High end Victor model shown in the video, there really isn’t many attractive DCC machines imo. The ES Sony dat decks are stunning by comparison.
That's the best packaging I've ever seen.
DCC 175, nice little machine, today used for some limited mass recoding. But it's obviously not designed for such a task. I wonder what was and what happened to all the real heavy duty DCC pro hardware for authoring and mass production from the 90's ?
Yeah, that's a good question!
A beautiful looking package and the video looks really crisp. it sure is one to keep for future generations.
Wow! More interesting facts about digital formats.
I actually released my first album on internet platforms, Spotify, Amazon etc. from the Mini Disc format to my computer.
I'm going to re-release it on Bandcamp though with a few bonus tracks just for sentimental reasons. I simply love digital technology and everything that comes with it. Thanks Techmoan for your wisdom.
"Prospects for future releases on this format are brighter than they were last year .." Well, that is until they run out of 'new" old stock though, right? How many blank dubbing DCC blanks do they still have left, if there aren't any new ones being made?
Most things are better before they run out of them. What I was saying about the prospects though was that there are now two duplication facilities for future DCC releases - or in hyperbole speak ‘a 100% increase on 2019’. I understand the DCC Museum have several thousand tapes - so sufficient for quite a few years of small scale releases.
@@Techmoan Thanks for the follow-up comment. I'm glad they have at least a few thousand left, and plenty of back-up machines to handle them!
The DCC Tape istelf is near identical to compact cassette tapes, to be specific cobalt Type II tape and Type 3 tape.
So at least that should still be available, the rest is some plastic and sheet metal.
Re-starting a low-scale production should be possible if required.
Cassettes are easy to make and analog cassettes are in production again. Unfortunately the special tape you need for a DCC (essentially chrome video tape) cannot be made anymore because of the pollution it generates. It's probably a problem that we may be able to work around in the future though.
Unfortunately the heads are a different problem: when those are gone, they're gone.
Love this channel! While streaming media has its place, you are really only renting it. Unless you rip the media you stream to local storage, anything you “buy” from a streaming service only exists as long as the seller hosts it. Physical media is only as good as long as it lasts or there is something to play it, but at least you usually have an option to move it from one format to another.
I had a listen to Ben Liebrand - Iconic Groove on spotify, and I loved it! It's like I'm back in the 90's!
I wish prerecorded media were still around. It might just be nostalgia, but they seem to make you really listen to music.
That's why I still rock my beloved Sansa mp3 player, It's middle ground and closer to that than my phone or PC ever could be.
But back in the 90's if I had the convenience of mp3/FLAC files or even better, spotify, I would NOT think twice before ditching my cassettes.
All this talk made me dig out my old sonericsson android phone that had the original walkman app...
Minidisc 💽 and DCC are so underrated....I love these recording formats on my hifi
Underrated how?
Yes, this is what I enjoy about HiFi systems are the play back / record formats, it's not all about looking for that next DAC unit, but for me it how good you can get the older analog formats to sound. That why I am now building own HiFi equipment, such as radio tuners and cassette decks. As this is the only way I can get best out of these formats, as every thing now seems to be low end and made at the lowest possible cost. As Matt has shown through his Techmoan Boombox videos, there so little available these days that is any good, yet you can do so much more with electronics today than what was possible 30 years ago.
@@standupstraight9691 because they last so long.......cd-r audio sucks for recording, the most burned CDS only last for 10 years. Minidisc, cassette tape and dcc Will last forever.
@@GustoTheGamer Magnetic tape most certainly won't last forever. Even ignoring the mechanical issues, they naturally demagnetize with time.
Also, CD-R is good for more than a decade. Source: my CD-Rs from the turn of the century.
@@GustoTheGamer I have CD-R's from literally 1995 (recorded at work, no-one had a CD recorder at home in those days) that still work great. Some time in the 2000s, recordable CD media got hit by the "cheap is good enough" virus so prices went down from $20 to $0.20 but quality went from "lasts at least 10 years" to "lasts until you take it out of the recorder".
Hi Techmoan! I'm a huge fan and subscriber of your channel for years now, and I enjoy your videos everytime! But to be fair, I believe you spend too much time and energy on the DCC and MiniDisc formats. Both of these lived for just a fraction of time and became quickly obsolete. It is awesome though that through your videos, you introduced them to people who didn't know their existence - such as me. And it was very interesting to learn about those audio fortmats I never thought existed.
But, even though some new music releases do come on DCC and/or MiniDisc, let's be honest, it can't be considered as a "comeback", like the vinyl records' one for example. Plus, one has to buy the music players for each one of those formats, so it makes it even harded for them to be available to the general public.
As a long time viewer and subscriber of yours, I would suggest you to focus on other audio formats/gadgets/players/machines etc. It really makes more sense, than spending time, energy and in some intances, money for these obsolete formats. As always though I did enjoy a lot your video, and I'm eager for the next ones. Be well! 😊
I'll have to get that Ben Liebrand release as I love housey groovy music. It seems to be influenced by classic late 70s -80s NYC disco too which is a great !
As much as I love your videos, I still miss seeing the puppets.
I understand you pretty much stopped because you have said what you wanted with them, but I still hold out hope they will make an appearance every now and then!
Great content. Keep it coming there are many of us out there who enjoy and appreciate it.
It's funny, when the two formats were coming out (dcc and minidisc) I was certain I'd be a dcc adopter. The knock on minidiscs was that it was lossy, which went against every fiber of my being. Then on second look, I found it was a truly perfect fit for the car and a portable. Thanks for the channel, content and all you do TM.
DCC was also lossy., PASC 384kbps Vs minidisc, ATRAC up to 292kbps.
MiniDiscs was more lossy than DCC. Eventually Sony came up with better formats because they kept going and did stuff like using new lasers, whereas Philips threw the towel in the ring in 1996.
DAT is lossless though.
I didn't remember DCC was lossy, maybe the fact that it was less lossy coupled with me having a very good cassette deck for that time (Teac R919-X) had me leaning DCC. But no matter how lossy, MiniDisc was the better format. You could easily edit them down to the microsecond level over and over and over again for mix "discs". Also, they were considerably less susceptible to skips than CDs (a big deal of the time). But you could still access any track almost immediately and add text which only a scarce few CDs of the time had, and then required special equipment to use.
@@dolfandon7124 In hindsight, DCC had no chance of being successful against MD, CD-R/RW, hard disks and sold state. I believe there are no parallel universes or timelines where DCC would have existed after 2005 or so if Philips hadn't killed it in 1996. Even if they would have added features like longer tapes (or lower tape speed to record e.g. mp3 at 192kbps) or the ability to record on analog cassettes, the format was basically still-born.
But in 1988 when Philips started developing it, when everyone was replacing their LP's with CD's and prerecorded cassette sales were on the decline, it totally made sense. Watch the DCC documentary on TH-cam, and also Gijs Wirtz' presentation in 2019 to learn more.
th-cam.com/video/WDS5MF9hZY8/w-d-xo.html
I totally agree Jac. Given the mindset of the day (when hifi VCRs were a thing), it at least seemed plausible a tape format could work. But certainly not in hindsight!
I'm in the US and never really even saw DCC players or cassettes here but these videos make me really appreciate them. I kind of wish I'd paid more attention to them at the time.
Always informative and interesting. Keep up the good work fella and stay safe.
''As I release my past, I release my pain''.
That was exceptionally interesting :)
Nice to see an IBM Thinkpad too - I've a good collection of Thinkpads myself.
I did NOT fall asleep to your voice AT ALL. You did however, earn a new subscriber
I still have a DCC 730 & a portable DCC recorder but not the very rare one shown. Both are at the bottom of a very full large cupboard. I might have to try & get them out again to have a little play with them after seeing this video!
At 3:07 that just blew me away... amazing packaging, with player 'n all.
Thank you for the update on these and the history lesson while I was here. I sadly have neither of these formats at the moment, but I am always on the lookout.
Cheers!
*Cassette lives forever*
Ladies, find a man who loves you like these guys love this recording format.
At which year that media box was made? Quality of the video is super! Sharp and bright almost as 4K!
yes indeed! i was very suprised by that too.
It was made this year.
@@DRDCC yeah that makes sense. thank you!
Wow!! This whole format completely passed me by.
Había escuchado sobre el reproductor y grabador de "DCC" (philips) multimedia. Pero en América latina (México) nunca se vendió. Aún conservo mis dos reproductores grabador de Minidisc. Y uno de ellos, es "NetMD" y lo tengo funcionando en Windows 10 de 32bit. Cuando era joven (1990) era mi sueño, tener un "DCC Philips" pero en América latina, no se vendió... Y en Estados Unidos, era muy poco conocido... Proliferó más el "Minidisc" que el DCC.... Exelente video, gran trabajo de investigación....
Just discovered and love this channel. Thank you for doing this work.
Bens “eve of the war” remix is legendary. One of the best tracks of the 90’s.
Forget the remix, Jeff Wayne's War of the Worlds is amazing all by itself. No insult intended to Ben, but ... yeah forget the remix.
I always think of U96. :-) And a Speak & Spell voice hyping it up.
@@nickwallette6201 Das Boot!!
@time engineer. I’ve never heared that one. Where can I find it?
@@briebelbus1524 th-cam.com/video/ZL_sFKUlW4c/w-d-xo.html
You know that when an album box has a 3.5mm headphone jack, Apple needs to get its collective junk together
(seriously, this is all some very cool stuff!)
please leave apple out of any techmoans!!!
Just when you thought that the world has run out of meme's to stir apple with, then this thing shows up LoL.
I agree with the sentiment, but we should consider that it's Apple. The Apple II series computers were nice, as well as some Mac exclusive games, but I wouldn't miss the Apple company.
I love vintage Philips equipment. I have been upcycling Philips HiFi for years before it became vintage. I am in the process of selling my Philips reel to reel N 4515. Its the ugliest tape deck ever, yet it has so many gadgets of any home tape deck of its time. If you don't know it, you should take a look. Really popular at the moment and still going strong. The old girl needs a bit of TLC and I don't have the time to sort the little problems out at the moment so I have taken my Philips N 7150 out of mothballs as it was serviced prior to being put away, and now I have a Beautiful looking deck on display that I don't need to make excuses for. I love what you do. Reminds me of what I used to do back in the day. 🙂👍
Vaporwave releases on DCC is so fitting.
Still find it strange that until this channel, I not only never saw a DCC machine, but never even heard of the format. This is even though in the 90's I was working for a company that made digital audio recording equipment, and I actually used to own a DAT recorder, so this must have been one of the most low key product launches ever. I never owned a Minidisc either, but at least I knew they existed. A shame as it does look like a really good format.
I was using a DCC recorder at university in 1992 to collect sound effects from around town to use in our city's theater groups. We'd have a list of the scenes and then we'd go around the city collecting samples to use in the 'soundtrack'.
We loved the digital editing tools at the time. Much better than the labor intensive process of manually splicing and editing tape.
Ben Liebrand did make mixing famous in the Netherlands and inspired many great Dutch DJ's, like Armin van Buuren, Ferry Corsten and Tiesto. Ben Liebrand also remixed a lot of tracks from famous artists and his most famous remix was in the air tonight, from Phil Collins. Every year he makes a yearmix, called the Grandmix.
We love the sound of the DCC!!! We mixdown our recorded multi track music from our TASCAM DP-32 direct to DCC, and the quality is so good we do not master our final product! You can hear our albums on our TH-cam channel.
As usual, here's the viewer that completely misses the point and gets distracted by the mysterious Technics machine seen on top of the DCC player at 5:30. It appears to be some kind of reverb amplifier (Technics calls it a "Space Dimension Controller"), which makes me wonder if it's just for the nice display or has Mat changed his mind about reverb. Hopefully I have now spoiled some future video and we'll get to see more of that device and what it does
2:30 - "CDs ... better than any recording you've ever heard" ... proceeds to play lo-fi with worse quality than a cassette tape recording played through a wobbly gramophone.
i love how only good music comes out on those formats
it makes worth it
Nice, I have that Philips portable recorder. And in the day, me and my nephew now Ben’s brother Rob. We where always busy with music and computer in the day.
I still have a Sony MZ-RH10 for my MiniDisc needs (albeit it doesn't take power from the wall anymore - or rather, it doesn't charge the battery with this way). I love those old formats a whole lot - they are great and wonderful. There is still so much you can do with some of them and use them for, perhaps, abstract projects. I use MiniDisc as a way to listen to Audiobooks as a voice recording doesn't neccessarily need to be 320kbps - 128 or even just 64 is enough and can allow a Hi-MD to fit a load of stuff. I marvel at these old things, especially if there are still people committed to them!
THIS IS THE FUTURE ... oddly enough :)
When I first heard about DCC as a teenager back in the '90s, I thought it was going to be the next big thing in music and really wanted a player for myself. I was most excited about the idea of blank DCCs for faithful recordings from CD and the radio.
But there were several factors working against the DCC.
1) DCC players were outlandishly expensive. They never made it into affordable boom boxes, etc. I guess there was one Walkman-style device, but it too was very pricey. And it was only a player; it wasn't designed to record from a CD player. DCC players were niche, and I certainly couldn't afford one.
2) CD-R, CD-RW, DVD-RW, etc. enabled digital recordings without the hassle of rewinding and fast-forwarding through a cassette to find the track you want.
3) Car CD players became more widely available. People would record their CDs on regular cassettes to listen to them in the car, but then that became unnecessary.
4) MP3 made it possible to keep your whole CD collection on your computer, and later, on portable devices like the iPod and other MP3 players. You could even record MP3s onto CDs and put large collections of music on just one disc. I did this so I wouldn't have to change CDs in the car, and I upgraded my car stereo to one that could play MP3 (or WMV in my case since the files were smaller) CDs.
If DCCs and players had come out 10 years earlier, they would have been hugely successful.
Was trying to remember why Ben Liebrand rang a bell then remembered i have the Styles album from back in the day
Astonishing! DCC is another format besides SACD that is going to sound great; I can hardly wait to get myself a couple of DCCs. By the way, Techmoan is one of my favourite TH-cam channels; and this is why I tune in.
New Techmoan! I click Like & I watch, in that order. 😁
Ditto!
wow. these are really interesting. and the media box is amazing
Well this proves how much fun I had in the 90's.
I can't even remember the DCC format.
Surprised to see TONTO in one of the video clips, would be interested in finding out what that was about, as I don't know whether it's set up and working at the moment (the circular racks of synths).
Just a thought. Wonder if you could by a generic box ? Be fantastic to record a video and use for a special present. For example a 21st birthday present containing a nice watch with a video from parents and friends ?
Yes - here's an Affiliated Amazon UK link - amzn.to/3kYnwuD - but if you want to go non-affiliated, type Video Brochure into Amazon (or a retailer of your choosing).
It would make a nice surprise for someone special.
@@Techmoan Fantastic idea, and not a bad price tbh.
www.amazon.co.uk/JVSISM-Greeting-Graduation-Birthday-Surprise/dp/B086VGXPYS/ref=pd_sbs_201_5/260-9401367-0950636?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B086VGXPYS&pd_rd_r=39de244a-939b-46d3-aff4-b699e0a3ec31&pd_rd_w=DpoxP&pd_rd_wg=narsq&pf_rd_p=2304238d-df78-4b25-a9a0-b27dc7bd722e&pf_rd_r=77NRRBR2240JAV1VZCFZ&psc=1&refRID=77NRRBR2240JAV1VZCFZ
@@firescoob999 That is just the coolest thing I have seen in a while. I just ordered one to use as a christmas present to send to some very good friends 🙂
It was only a matter of time till a retro physical release of a vaporwave album would be featured in these types of vids.
I'm into the genre though and based on the snippet at 2:15 and what the concept of the album is, it looks right up my alley. nice.
Flippin' eck ! I still have some of those Phillips blanks still sealed.
Me too
Where can you get that media box with the screen? I could load that up with videos or movies and have a small portable movie machine.
Ben Liebrand did a great remix of war of the worlds. Used to get played on old school rave stations.
To think that the survival of the entire format, depended on one single new feature on the very last model produced and a cable accessory (so, an extra that could have as well never been released) . And in such small numbers. Like a hand extending from the past just barely enough to connect the DCC to a chain of retro compatible devices that keeps it alive, 25 years later. Wow.
I have one of those portable dcc machines, bought in Finland cheaply when the electronics shops wanted to get rid of the format. Sadly I don't have the data cable. In recent years I have used it only as a C-cassette player when converting old tapes, it plays them with good quality. As I remember it, using dcc tapes was fiddly, the head must be absolutely clean, and starting a recording is more complex than with an analogue cassette. It must record some kind of lead-in, bit like formatting floppies. I also have a couple of virgin blank tapes. Wonder if the machine and tapes eventually become valuable and finance my retirement on a Caribbean island...
Mastered by Angel Marcloid - you know you get quality stuff
i never thought id need thes but now i do. also i think the paper behind plexiglass album art looks better than priinted on to the cassette.
Suddenly something in my brain reactivated.I remember the name "Ben Liebrand" from the 1980ties. I found his mixes so cool as a kid, I was waiting for them to start on the radio and recorded them on audio cassette. And suddenly more memories come back from my childhood.
I love your videos but, for a few weeks now, they don't seem to have any subtitles even days after being uploaded, making them sometimes relatively hard to understand. Is it a bug from You Tube, or did you change someting in your audio or your presets? I think the last one with sub' was your video on the Tapete. Before this one, there was no problems and everything was fine. After this one, no subtitles anymore… Do you think it would be possible to get them back? For foreign people, but also English speakers with hearing troubles I bet, it would really really be way more practical ^^ !
It’s a bug - the settings at my end are unchanged.
Looks like the format has a bright future while new old stock of the recordable tapes lasts anyway.
Don't rule the DCC format out either. Afterall vinyl is making a comeback, 110 camera film (lomography) and 126 film is making a comeback so I don't think it would be a stretch to see vintage formats revived in limited "batch" collections.
Personally I would love to see the DCC Museum process applied to conventional Analog Cassettes and SACD recordings. Especially the artwork, its bright and colorful and oozes quality and detail.
That Liebrand box has the most creative packaging i have ever seen. Not crazy about this poppy strain of dance music though.
Yes
I always thought MD was a much better format than DCC - instant track access, and a non-contact system meaning no heads to wear out or need cleaning. Interesting video though and it's great to know that some people are trying to keep these old formats alive.
i'll repeat how lucky i was in my trip to Netherlands back in the nineties. i bought a dcc almost by chance by the fact it played old tapes, but also tapes with cd quality.
Did I miss something? How do they manage to record in 24 bits if there are no 24 bit DCC recorders?
The DCC175 with the software modification is able to record now in 48kHz 24 bit. That mod was not available in the 90ies and developed this year
If I understand correctly it's just recording data to the tape - the conversion to that data was done in the PC software, but to the DCC175 it's just seen as another file.
@@Techmoan That is correct
@@DRDCC How does a player incapable of decoding a 24 bit data stream still manage to make sound out of it?
@@mattgies same way a black and white monitor can display a color photo. Jist will be in B&w
I guess there will always be a demand for physical music formats, there is just something different about having and listening to music in a physical format compared to having hundreds of albums on a mobile phone that can be accessed in seconds.
it took me about a decade not to care for my CDs anymore after mp3s became available. Or maybe 15 years. But now, I couldn’t care less,
I am firmly in the other camp. I have always disliked CD's and cassettes because I hardly ever like all the tracks of 1 physical item. sure I will listen to the whole album at first to get to know it, but pretty soon I decide I want to listen to track 1,2,5,8,9 and 12 all the time, occasionally to 4,6 and 11 and NEVER again to 3, 7 and 10. Having thousands of tracks together and being able to delete and skip and make my own selections is the best thing ever. The only time I used a CD in the past 20 years is when I had a car without audio in jack.
@@Blackadder75 couldn't agree more. The mixtape was king for that reason and later on came the playlist. I remember giving the local music store, a list of tracks they would dub into a cassette for us, instead of buying a whole cd with tracks we didn't like. I never missed making mixtapes though. I still do in Spotify as playlists that I end up playing back in shuffle. Cassettes were replaced by CD-RWs and soon after that by Mp3s in micro SDs. (there's a rap rhyme in here somewhere). And now by subscription services like spotify.
@@ivok9846 Or they process things differently to you, and that's ok.
@@ivok9846 I tried hundreds, I am just very picky, I like very different styles of music from acoustic rock to new wave to techno, but never everything 1 group or artist makes