Covert Chops | Charlie Hunter Clinic
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- Jazz guitarist Charlie Hunter talks about a number of subjects including a really unique comparison near the end of this segment of "over chops" to "covert chops". Recorded live in June 2011.
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It's kind of comforting to hear Charlie describe the panic he felt when he was starting out at 3:00, and that he got on top of it by slowing down and thinking through what needed to happen. Going back to my scales and metronome with my brain engaged has started to open up my neck.. Practice practice practice.
Charlie: "know what I'm sayin`?"
*no body even dared to nod*
The greatest grooves come to Charlie Hunter like nothing.
Revolutionary player
absolutely changed the game.
I don't think he's talking about people like Alan Holdsworth when he mentions guitar players that aren't very tasteful. You can play a lot of notes and be reallly musical but I wouldn't say that's Holdsworth. He has totally pushed the limits of what is humanly possible on the guitar but no one other than guitar players and music nerds (myself included) really enjoy his music. People care about groove and melody and these are the fundamental elements that matter the most. Hes right on point.
He was actually pretty popular in the 70s. You can tell because his records are a dime a dozen in used record shops.
This guy is just bonkers.
There is also shredding grooving and vise versa, Look up trioscapes. Thats some groovy shredding,and is very musically thought out and speaks to me
GUYS FUCKING AMAZING
Actually after watching a few other videos. It looks like he uses a fender twin for the guitar and a bass amp for the lower strings. Looks like he has tow outputs too.
idk about that but jazzy stuff in general does tend to fly over peoples heads. Holdsworth definitely has some major groove and melody. Charlie's right though, the so called "covert chops" are more important.
This is a bad, bad, man!!
i love how hes just playing and hes like yeah like that
I wonder what he thinks about guitarists such as Guthrie Govan or Andy Timmons who have craploads of overt, as well as covert chops
I'm sure he's got respect for those cats.
We understand things differently but he was referring to shred as " bad sounding" and "for 14 year old kids".That is overgeneralization and it's wrong.There is no more important thing to me.A good musician should be musical and being able to shred musically if he wanted to.One of my favorite guitar players of all time John Scofield has groove and timing out of this world.He is old school,he is not a shredder but still he plays some shred chops from time to time.
Jazz guitarists and metal guitarists don't see eye to eye for some reason. Maybe they all want their own style to be on top... It's a shame because both styles can learn from each other.
On one hand jazz guitarists play like shy tryhards with their muted guitars and overcomplicated harmonies. Put the reefer down and turn the volume up, dork.
On the other hand rock guitarists sound like obnoxious narcissists with their wide vibrato, shreddy gimmicks and screeching alien sounds. Toke on some reefer and settle down a bit, asshole.
You know what I mean?
BEING SOULFUL, THIS IS SO TRUCK
Are his bass strings going out a different output on the guitar? Two amps?
Yep!!
know what I’m sayin?!?!?
Charlie is a good musician but he talks little too much bullshit.You can have shred chops and do them in a way that is good like Alan Holdsworth for example.Charlie said it as if it's necessary to play on tempo 10bpm to be good.You can't generalize fast playing as bad and slow playing is good or vise versa.
he's not over generalizing... he is simply trying to draw a distinction between flashy bits of playing everybody notices (especially normies) and the more subtle types of skillful playing that go under the radar especially if you' dont have an experienced eye or just dont play. I don't think he is targetting "fast playing" especially since thats such a vague label and especially since he is very capable of playing fast as well.
@@17utk the deep irony is the normies really don't care about overt chops, but covert chops blow their minds. That's what I've learned taking up this split output thing.
@@GetOffMyLawnRecordsCan you expand on how the split output thing has changed your perspective?
@@demejiuk5660 So when you're playing guitar or bass individually, you feel like you gotta be able to really fly on the fretboard and do all the fancy stuff. That's what he's talking about with Overt Chops. Once you get to where you're doing both, there's this interplay thing that happens within the counterpoint of the bass and guitar doing different things but through one set of hands.
Getting that to feel good takes the same amount of technical skill as the weedly deedly guitar stuff, but because all of the chops are dedicated towards getting the groove to feel good, the audience feels good when they hear it.
@@GetOffMyLawnRecords That's dope man. Thanks for responding. Btw have you seen Charlie's 1 hour interview on Vertex? It's amazing.