Honda Oil Filter 15400-PLM-A02 vs. Sakura Oil Filter C-1821 Oil Filter Cut Open Comparison

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  • @save16thave
    @save16thave ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The foreign made filters can be better made because they can afford to be. The American factories have to pay American workers a decent wage so unfortunately they have to cut costs somewhere to compete with the foreign companies low prices. It's hard to compete with slave wages and child labor. Sure the foreign filters are cheap and look nice but you have to consider the human cost of deporting all our manufacturing over seas.

    • @arontesfay2520
      @arontesfay2520 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Maybe. I've seen several Made in USA filters that are better than imported filters and cheaper. But of course you also have the likes of these Honda filters that are also made here in the US but frankly terrible value for money.

    • @18_rabbit
      @18_rabbit ปีที่แล้ว +2

      while u are alluding to some actual facts, that is not the case with most foreign made filters. There's no slave wages in places like China, S.Korea and even the cheaper countries ,and very rarely child labor. So those motifs and tropes are useless in trying to make your point which does have validity if u mean that we just cannot do it for reasonable money. But that also means that we american buyers are so imperceptive that we'll buy the inferior domestic product? Not the folks/buyers who know a bit about such things, that's for sure. But yeah, in past few yrs, many some reviewers and commenters have indeed mentioned that a lot of the M&H brands including Purolator have gone downhill, and perhaps even Wix, though i kinda doubt it for them. So, indeed, troubled times due to inflation mainly.

  • @cajunweatherman8974
    @cajunweatherman8974 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The Honda filter is just the 4 dollar Fram orange can of death painted blue and labled Genuine Honda.
    Personally I use the Purolator Boss and Pennzoil ultra platinum in my 2018 Civic that my daughter drives. The Honda Dealerships are using cheap oil and cheap filters as part of planned obscelesance in my opinion.
    Do yourself a favor and change the oil and filter yourself. Otherwise you may end up with foreign metal debris in your engine as Pete did a great job of pointing out.

  • @PapiDoesIt
    @PapiDoesIt ปีที่แล้ว +11

    We are a 4 Honda family and thanks to your videos we no longer use Honda filters. The fiber end caps were the deal breaker, but seeing that metal shard on the threads sealed the deal. My son and I went to Walmart and bought two cases of the SuperTech filters for the Hondas, since your videos show them to be pretty good filters with real metal end caps like nature intended.

    • @daewooparts
      @daewooparts ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Should try to get the actual Japanese built Honda filters, those are decent quality filters

    • @Mr.Thermistor7228
      @Mr.Thermistor7228 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      For Honda go with denso filter# 150-2006.. very well made filter, metal end caps, thick can, great threads, he actually did a video on his channel just recently. It has replaced the a02 for me completely

    • @donwyoming1936
      @donwyoming1936 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The Japanese filters are currently made exactly the same as the US filters. Fiber board end caps and all. ​@@daewooparts

    • @johnmano1439
      @johnmano1439 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Personally, I prefer Mahle or Mann-Filter on my Hondas.

    • @Resistculturaldecline
      @Resistculturaldecline 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The end cap material is irrelevant

  • @randie450
    @randie450 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I think the microscope pictures tell you everything that's important here.
    It would be Honda for me.

  • @theodorgiosan2570
    @theodorgiosan2570 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I used to special order Sakura filters for my old JDM Nissan Gloria with the RD28 diesel engine. Was cheaper than paying $38 each for the Carquest filters that fit the CD17 in the diesel Sentras we got in the US, which is interchangeable with the RD28 filter. That was a combination filter with a full flow and bypass in the same can. Sold that car to my friend and was eventually totalled in a crash. He replaced it with a 1982 Oldsmobile Toronado 5.7 diesel. Which is still hard to find the large filters for (PH25/PG33), but not as hard as that RD28. He was originally planning on swapping a 5.7 into the Gloria due to the engine being on its last legs but then someone crashed into him and the car was done. So he just got a car with that engine already in it, and it's quite a bit nicer of a car.

  • @elmofrazier3481
    @elmofrazier3481 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm glad you do the microscope pictures

  • @daewooparts
    @daewooparts ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That USA Honda filter is just a Honeywell/FRAM design built filter ,should try one of the actual Japanese Honda filters ! The Sakura is a Indonesia built OE Japanese design filter used by several domestic Japanese companies, I probably pick the Sakura over a orange can of death FRAM just painted blue 😁,those thread shavings are a sure death or severe damage if unfiltered & they are on the end to end up back in the crankcase

  • @ChristopherRaskett-ql7qb
    @ChristopherRaskett-ql7qb ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yea, I noticed the burs on the Honda filters. Several of them. I bought 1/2 case from Amazon.
    I bought one from Walmart, and when trying to put it on. I noticed that it didn’t catch the threads easily right away. I didn’t think to look for a ber on the threads as I never saw that before over 32 years of changing my own oil. Quite disappointing.
    I’ll know to check now though. I did notice that when I change from Fram filters to OEM filters for my CRV start up rattle significantly decreased. Must have better flow then the Fram extra guard.

  • @ginog5037
    @ginog5037 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks Pete, I now throughly check all my filters before installing them...

  • @kellybennett2900
    @kellybennett2900 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice video Whip. Now that was what I would call a learning lesson. Personally I would go with the Sakura filter over the Honda filter.

  • @nathanielcasas8923
    @nathanielcasas8923 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You should do a video comparing the two different Honda filters that we can get here in the USA 15400-plm-A02 and the 15400-RTA-003 I would be interested to see them under the microscope to see which one might filter better

  • @WhipCityWrencher
    @WhipCityWrencher  ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ► Thanks For Watching!
    I try and make an oil filter inspection video every Friday on this TH-cam Channel, Thank You! 👍

  • @JenniferatHome
    @JenniferatHome ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was great! I’ve never seen anyone disassemble an oil filter. Pretty cool that you measured the thickness as well! Who would have thought about the differences! 😁👏👏👏
    Great video, great comparisons!

    • @WhipCityWrencher
      @WhipCityWrencher  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank You👍
      Glad you liked the video😊

    • @GT-mn3bx
      @GT-mn3bx ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@WhipCityWrencherI have a filter for you you haven't done..
      Where do I send?

    • @WhipCityWrencher
      @WhipCityWrencher  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GT-mn3bx Send me an email and let me know what you have to, Poker4me007@gmail.com

    • @GT-mn3bx
      @GT-mn3bx ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@WhipCityWrencherJust emailed you about the Wix.

  • @ED-ti5tc
    @ED-ti5tc ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You done got my curiosity up on that honda filter. Ive been using that filter on my mom's honda civic since new. 2002.
    Also i only buy from honda dealer. I have on i haven't used yet and it has 4 threads and a different bypass valve in bottom. Ill check end caps on it. Great video. Have a good weekend.

    • @WhipCityWrencher
      @WhipCityWrencher  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks, and have a good weekend also👍

  • @faxmen09
    @faxmen09 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I 'prefer' the construction of the Sakura to the A02. Like the metal endcaps and much prefer how the baseplate threads are recessed vs protruding on the Honda. In my experience, the Sakura more installation friendly. Neither filter has efficiency specs, but what's known about the A02, not very efficient. It does use a stamped leaf "spring", and contrary to a previous bogus comment, it does serve the purpose as a "spring". I'm thinking both cellulose media, maybe Honda is a blend at most. I wouldn't pay $10+ for the A02, and seeing no efficiency spec for Sakura, I likely wouldn't use either. I agree the black adbv is nitrile, but if you still have filter, burn test would be neat. Thanks for vid.

    • @WhipCityWrencher
      @WhipCityWrencher  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks faxmen09.
      I still have the filter, I'll try and do that test soon.

    • @faxmen09
      @faxmen09 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@WhipCityWrencher Good deal. Only the Toyota Thai Denso black adbv has tested as silicone. Just curious if there might be another out there. But yeah, thinking it's nitrile.

  • @ellalamont6943
    @ellalamont6943 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    YaY to Paul! So nice of him! Another great comparison! Thumbs up to You, Cuz! See You at the Jack and Jill tonight! 👍😊

    • @WhipCityWrencher
      @WhipCityWrencher  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      👍 to Paul,
      Yep, see you there, it should be fun😊👍

    • @ellalamont6943
      @ellalamont6943 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@WhipCityWrencher 👍😊

  • @anggaakihiko8001
    @anggaakihiko8001 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Sakura❤

  • @brianchudzik7829
    @brianchudzik7829 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Honda appears to be Fram? I will certainly change what I am using on my Integra now. Wix or NAPA for the win.

    • @faxmen09
      @faxmen09 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Honda A02 shown been Fram made for a long time.

  • @ajmedeiros77
    @ajmedeiros77 ปีที่แล้ว

    Made in Indonesia for the win. Funny, I’ve had Hondas since the 90’s and all went well over 200k some over 300k and all still ram perfect. Many of them I had the oil changed at Honda because they had cheap coupons for the oil change, and washed and vacuumed the car. Likely it was because I always changed the oil early.

  • @jamescaron6465
    @jamescaron6465 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great Job Pete. I've learned plenty about filters, thanks to you, though alot of it isn't exactly great. Funny, I run my finger with a little oil over the threads I guess as a habit before I spin it on. That burr probably would have stabbed me in the finger.
    I have to say that the Sakura filter is beautifully made but they need a better media than the low grade cellulose media they are using. I wouldn't use a Honda filter if you gave it to me and the burred threads just seal that opinion. the foreign filters seem to be much better made in recent years.

  • @SimpleTastyFood2024
    @SimpleTastyFood2024 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good caught with the threads Pete! Good sharing as usual. 👍 Have a good weekend! Merri :)

    • @WhipCityWrencher
      @WhipCityWrencher  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks, Merri👍
      Have a Good Weekend also😊

  • @dennywires
    @dennywires ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Shame the Honda filter doesn’t have better Q/C with those poor threads. Other than that I like the Fram design. It’s tried and true. Thanks for sharing Pete.

  • @davidsacco4860
    @davidsacco4860 ปีที่แล้ว

    That Honda filter looks a lot like a higher grade Fram filter with the fiber end caps. Nice construction on the Sakura filter but I would not use it due to the porous filter media. This Sakura filter looks similar to a "Sure" filter which is also made in Indonesia. Also Sakura is or was a Japanese company that used to make photographic film and paper. It was called SakuraColor film. Not sure if it is the same company. . It might be because it made photgraphic paper so maybe they moved over to making filter paper.

  • @JenniferatHome
    @JenniferatHome ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I shared this to a friend with a Honda. 😁👍

  • @softwaresignals
    @softwaresignals 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fiber end caps don't fall apart in use. Looks like they would! All the ones over the years I've seen cut open, not a one was apart. So they are actually good.

  • @ChuiStrong
    @ChuiStrong 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The burrs on the Honda threads are definitely the manufacture's fault. That big of a burr would not fly in standard QCs. Someone in charge of OQC missed this completely. You're not the only one to see this on the US made Honda filters.

  • @anishchand4420
    @anishchand4420 ปีที่แล้ว

    This One was a Close call between OEM Honda Filter that's Made in USA vs Sakura Filter that's Made in Indonesia and sold in Australia. Honda Loyalist try them both if possible. Supercheap Auto usually sells Sakura products and they may mail it to USA, possibly.

  • @davidsacco4860
    @davidsacco4860 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Honda filter looks a lot like a higher grade Fram filter with the fiber end caps. The construction of the Sakura filter is very good but I would not use it due to the porous filter media. The Sakura filter looks a lot like a "Sure" filter which is also made in Indonesia. I wonder if the Sakura filter is made by the same Japanese company that used to make photographic film and paper. It was called "SakuraColor. Not sure if it is the same company but if it is maybe they make filter media since they made photographic paper.

  • @Bill-tz1fr
    @Bill-tz1fr 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The inside of that honda filter sure looks a lot like a orange can fram to me.

    • @WhipCityWrencher
      @WhipCityWrencher  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yep, it's made by First Brand who also makes Fram oil filters.

  • @aaronatwood9298
    @aaronatwood9298 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Honda looks like a fram. If you were to put the other media in the “Sf” can using the sf hardware, youd have a filter.
    The burs on the threads is bad qc and worn tooling.

  • @Tbjahuwbj
    @Tbjahuwbj ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Would not use the 2

  • @Haffschlappe
    @Haffschlappe 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Please test USSR oilfilters

  • @7s29
    @7s29 ปีที่แล้ว

    I use the Sakura on my old Mazda, I'm happy with them.
    Personally, I'll stick with Sakura.

  • @jeffkortsch8276
    @jeffkortsch8276 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Honda filter looks like a Honeywell/Fram product very similar to the Subaru filters made in the US. The Sakura that is made in Indonesia looks like the Tokyo Roki filters made in Indonesia for Subaru including the little cup that the coil spring (my preference) fits into and the four rivets that attach the bypass valve.

    • @faxmen09
      @faxmen09 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Fram, yes. Honeywell, no. Honeywell sold Fram to Rank Group in 2011. Rank then sold Fram to Trico (now called First Brands) 2019. Amazon and many Honda parts sites still incorrectly identify the Fram as Honeywell more than a decade later.

    • @daewooparts
      @daewooparts ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@faxmen09yup.,Honeywell sold it long ago, but everyone at Honda still calls them the Honeywell Honda filters, they tried to avoid using the FRAM brand as being a Honda filter long ago & they say "Honeywell " it just grew on everyone at Honda dealerships

    • @faxmen09
      @faxmen09 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@daewooparts Really, the Honda A02 sellers don't have to list any manufacturer at all. ACDelco, made by Champ Labs now part of First Brands doesn't. Ford Motorcraft doesn't. Even the Fram made Subaru OEM doesn't. Other than not updating the listing information, unclear to me why sellers still list Honeywell for A02. At this point, it could be considered false advertising, imo.

    • @jeffkortsch8276
      @jeffkortsch8276 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@faxmen09 I stand corrected. Still a poorly made filter no matter who owns Fram.

    • @faxmen09
      @faxmen09 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jeffkortsch8276 Over the years I've owned several Hondas, still do. Only run the A02 when I let the dealer do the oil change. That, very rarely over decades. I'm not a fan of fiber endcaps, but more so the ridiculous price the stealerships want for it. Many cars running Frams and seem to do fine. Still, prefer a more substantial looking filter with metal endcaps. If you're willing to spend $13, the new Fram Endurance is a good filter.

  • @timbur2711
    @timbur2711 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Everyone one has the fiber fear when they see those end caps lol

  • @Hipchick
    @Hipchick ปีที่แล้ว

    Happy Friday great info 👍

  • @PennywiseM3
    @PennywiseM3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you compare the Denso 150-2006 against the Honda 15400-PLM-A02? They both fit a variety of Honda and Acura vehicles. I am curious to see the Denso quality against Honda's quality. Denso seems to be Toyota's go-to supplier.

  • @jensenwilliam5434
    @jensenwilliam5434 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for your videos!!!

  • @freedomliberty7611
    @freedomliberty7611 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great job Pete

  • @Iowa599
    @Iowa599 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The A02 was introduced it seemed to be lower quality than the A01.
    A01 = built by Toyo Roki
    A02 = built by Honeywell
    But they're both better than FRAM!

    • @WhipCityWrencher
      @WhipCityWrencher  ปีที่แล้ว

      This Honda oil filter looks like a Fram to me, even uses the same date code deciphering as a Fram oil filter.

    • @Iowa599
      @Iowa599 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@WhipCityWrencher the A02, right?
      Apparently Honeywell is owned by the same group (Trico), but I don't know that Fram filters are the same. As a technician (Honda & independent) I saw Fram filters regularly, and they looked nothing like the A01 or A02, because no P-ring & I believe they were a different size. I never measured them (I had no reason to) but they felt different.

    • @faxmen09
      @faxmen09 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Iowa599 the A02 shown is made by Fram to Honda specs, has been for a long time. Fram hasn't been owned by Honeywell since 2011. Still Fram made though.

    • @WhipCityWrencher
      @WhipCityWrencher  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Iowa599 Yes, the A02

  • @dfields9511
    @dfields9511 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A02 Honda filters are really made by Fram 😢 I hate when they don’t have metal Endcaps

    • @mikman7219
      @mikman7219 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Doesn't the fact that they never fail outweigh any personal preferences?

  • @mikman7219
    @mikman7219 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sakura has been tested by Russian enthusiasts. They found that it had low filtering efficiency. Not the worst though but not what you expect from an oil filter. Most aftermarket filters are terrible anyway. Just be careful if you buy a non-OEM filter.

  • @dwheeler016
    @dwheeler016 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Disappointed in the Honda filter. The metal on the thread and was not caught. Paper endcaps, paper media. I expected better.

  • @Gary7even
    @Gary7even ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Sakura is a much better-made filter. I personally would not use either of these.

    • @elcano9l52
      @elcano9l52 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And what would you use then?

    • @Nozinbonsai
      @Nozinbonsai 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Fleetguard or mann. ​@@elcano9l52

  • @scottymoondogjakubin4766
    @scottymoondogjakubin4766 ปีที่แล้ว

    Worst case scenario the honda filter wont even thread and if it cross threads the filter mount on the engine block that would suck cause most are part of the block !

  • @packerman1203
    @packerman1203 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Have you compared these oem filters to spoon performance filters? All the filters ive gotten from honda dealers have been much cheaper, about 6.75 a piece the last time i got them. The spoon filters are 25$ on their website, id be curious to see if anything is different about them. Might also be worth mentioning that ive never had any thread issues on the filters ive gotten but even on one filter thats not a good sign at all.

  • @Andrew__Smith
    @Andrew__Smith ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You can wrap your sh@t ( Cheap *FRAM* ) up in all sorts of wrappings (HONDA/SUBARU/ etc) , and that sh@t ain’t gonna be candy.
    As for the filter from Indonesia - in TH-cam tons of videos like dirty teenagers in some dirty basements, by hand, in dust and dirt make such filters. At the same time, literally run between their legs dirty, homeless dogs. The spectacle is terrible.

    • @jimcrow8562
      @jimcrow8562 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In case you're wondering where Sakura filters are really made:
      th-cam.com/video/Azkdwjk6vr4/w-d-xo.htmlsi=pGEVX-VKO6QSlPhg
      That looks like a pretty modern factory to me.
      Those videos of oil filters being handmade by "dirty teenagers in some dirty basement" were actually shot in Pakistani sweatshops that have scant regard for workplace safety and employ child labor. The filters made there are mostly intended for the South Asian, Australasian and African markets.

    • @WhipCityWrencher
      @WhipCityWrencher  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jimcrow8562 Thank You great video👍

  • @bigdavedayday1581
    @bigdavedayday1581 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sakura filter wins

  • @Nozinbonsai
    @Nozinbonsai 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hmmm ,fram restamp or japanese pretender champion from Indonesia.?? Well maybe fleetguard or mann.

  • @tariqbhatti6584
    @tariqbhatti6584 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Worker’s fault on the Honda threads, it should’ve failed inspection, but I use the Honda Filters they are good filters.

  • @dogisluvdogluvs8572
    @dogisluvdogluvs8572 ปีที่แล้ว

    Honda charges only 6.63 for filters 12 dollars is price gouging.

  • @FMichael1970
    @FMichael1970 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sad to see Honda oem quality has taken a nose dive.

  • @spankyham9607
    @spankyham9607 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Honda filter looks like clearly a CHAMP made filter. I think, in this case, the Sakura is the better filter.

  • @joerahn1121
    @joerahn1121 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Paper end caps want rust when held in a shiping contaner for 5 years

  • @Iowa599
    @Iowa599 ปีที่แล้ว

    Honda filters have a "P-ring", not an O-ring, & it looks like that Sakura filter is the same.

    • @WhipCityWrencher
      @WhipCityWrencher  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Close enough, call it what you want P'ring, O'ring, gasket, oil seal.

    • @faxmen09
      @faxmen09 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@WhipCityWrencher Agreed. It's an o-ring with a little extension to fit under a base plate flange to hold it.

  • @riceburner4747
    @riceburner4747 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think its quality control, or lack of one, with Honda. I lean toward Sakura, better quality in my opinion. Even though filter itself is lesser of the two.👍

  • @JimFixIt74
    @JimFixIt74 ปีที่แล้ว

    👍

  • @HanksArt
    @HanksArt ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing❤️😂💋keep it up

  • @cskiles318
    @cskiles318 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey friend

  • @yunusaprilyadi8828
    @yunusaprilyadi8828 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Because both made in same factory

  • @nexushexus4365
    @nexushexus4365 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Both junk, 15400-PLM-A01 was way better but cant be found anymore.

  • @mutantryeff
    @mutantryeff ปีที่แล้ว

    !!!

  • @rachegreenrg
    @rachegreenrg ปีที่แล้ว +2

    OEM oil filters are overpriced junk.

  • @missysass1806
    @missysass1806 ปีที่แล้ว

    🐕

  • @prevost8686
    @prevost8686 ปีที่แล้ว

    👍