Well since it is not compatible with all ipads then it's a huge mistake, and Apple could have gotten a lot more $ by making them compatible with ALL iPads! So for me it's a no. 🤨
Yea they did that on purpose so people would have one more reason to buy the new iPad and people who bought the new iPad would have to buy the new pencil
It would be great if apple give us the option to customise double tap for the menu option in apple pencil 2, but apple being apple it's never gonna happen
@@JamesJulier-Artist well i been here from almost the start of this channel. Speaking of which could you make more art like you did on the ipad 2018 video i really miss the abstraction art you used to make heck better yet you might even be able to make a mini series were you tell scary stories while doing so xD hahaha
I just upgraded to the previous iPad 6 months ago. I am disappointed in Apple trying to force me to upgrade if I want to use the new pencil pro. Apple could have easily made it work in the iPad design if they wanted to. This is obsolescence by design.
Thanks a lot!! There can't be anything else needed you have covered everything in a natural flow!! THANK YOU!! And yes, it seems the squeeze is the most can be useful feature so only if you have it, not much to upgrade unless you need or want the newer iPad for other reasons as well
With a real calligraphy pen or brush, you _do_ sometimes need to change the angle for certain effects. Prior to the barrel roll feature, it wasn't possible to get that effect with the Apple Pencil at all. I grant it's not something most people will need, but it does open the door to things that were practically impossible before.
I totally agree on the Pencil 2 double tap feature. It can be annoying. My 2018 iPad Pro gets a bit warm with Procreate. It seems to be quite demanding. So, that’s my excuse for upgrading!
Can I Ask you about feature in gallery: you hold picture and then you can make for example cat sticker from photo, id this feature working im your iPad?
I wouldn't buy the new Pencil Pro especially for the new functions (although they are pretty great to me), but since my old iPad Pro is showing aging problems I planned to buy the new iPad Pro anyway and since you can't use the old but 100% fine working Pencil (which is not so nice by moneygrabbing Apple (I'm trying to keep the language clean here)) I need to buy that also. I sure hope the programmer of Sketch Club (which is the application I use to draw) will programm the new features into the app. I think it's great that the setting is in each of the brushes. For some brushes you don't want it to "wobble" because of you changing the position of the pencil ever so slightly. And for some brushes it's absolutely wonderful to be able to steer the position. Yesterday I returned my nano texture iPad Pro and after money refund I'll order the 2TB iPad Pro with 'normal' screen. The keyboard and Pencil Pro are already on my work table. I can hear the haptic feedback of the Pencil Pro! It can't wait for the iPad Pro to arrive haha 😂
I won’t be upgrading as love my iPad mini 6 and Apple Pencil 2. When you do your tutorials with the new iPad and Pencil will it still be compatible for the ones of us who haven’t upgraded please?
You can follow his tutorials if you have a Samsung tablet with a s-pen (or whatever they call it). You might need to use your imagination just a bit more, but it should absolutely be doable. A different apple pencil isn't going to have any effect.
I definitely think the barrel roll will help with some brushes that seem to go backwards before they go in the right direction, if that makes sense. It’s very annoying like drawing say braids and the first one is backward.
It is a combination of the new Pro Pen and the availability of Nano Glass that has drawn Me to the iPad lineup.... Throw in 120 Hrtz and its heaven on earth...
I would like to inquire about the battery performance and durability of the device under consideration. It appears the pencil has no power toggle switch. I previously encountered a rather unfortunate predicament wherein the original Apple Pencil, having only once been inadvertently left uncharged, succumbed to the perils of depleted energy and failed to regain functionality thereafter.
Great review/comparison, thanks! They should have just made the haptic feedback on the base Pencil 2 model. But really these squeeze and tap functions are reinventing the wheel. I love the gestures as a method of interaction on touch screen, so Apple definitely improved my workflow with that. But they should have just put 2 buttons on the Pencil like Wacom. So in case of gestures, they make keyboards obsolete for many applications. But having buttons on the stylus is most efficient and pleasant. They take tactile “effort” to push that’s both pleasant and not prone to accidents. The tap/squeeze Pencil should be the regular model, but the one with 2 buttons - Pro model. This is design driven by fad, as in, look we’ve come up with something new. A proper innovation is talking to artists and working with artists. Watching what they’re doing and improving their workflow. Don’t get me wrong, I love Apple Pencil even version 1, but they haven’t improved it functionally. I mean look at mechanical pencils, they have erasers built in. Why? So you could flip it over, erase, and flip back to sketch. Tap to switch to eraser (and looking to confirm that you actually did) is equivalent to picking up a separate eraser, using it, and then picking up the pencil again. How cool would it be to press and hold a button to erase instead? 99.9% of the time you use an eraser to fix things, not go into a whole erasing session! This “toggle” thing just doesn’t work, because you have to confirm it by looking at the icons. Yes I still use it anyway, but it’s just not ideal. And the 2nd button could be a color picker or some other programmable function.
Double tap is only annoying if you don’t use a rubber on your pencil. If you do this feature works as intended without accidental tapping. It’s so much faster ✌️
@@JamesJulier-Artist I had double tap always off but recently discovered that is doesn't really work when rubber is on 😁 it made me very happy because now I do actually use it and I like it. With squeeze that combo will be really nice 👍
I appreciate your video comparisons and tutorials. I hope you share about the difference in sizes between the Pro and Air 13" and 11" if you got them? Every iPad update I've done has been based on the new features and size. I can remember my first iPad was the iPad 2, then I got the first gen iPad Pro 12.9" and I had that for a while before "downsizing" to the iPad Mini 6th Gen and recently traded that one in to get the latest M2 iPad Air 13" as I feel I don't really need the expense or fanciness of the Pro features. I was going to attempt using the iPad without an apple pencil as my pencil 2 is now useless to me but I caved and will receive the pro pencil this week. I'm hoping I can sell/give away the pencil 2 to someone who needs it.
why won't Apple just add an eraser at the end of the pencil, that would feel more natural for erase tool like on the Wacom pencils. Other than that, looks fine.
I wouldn’t buy the iPad specifically for the new Pencil Pro but if you want a new M4 iPad then guess what? You’re probably forced to buy the new Pencil Pro unless you go after market. I didn’t see much difference between the Pencil 2 and Pro except I have to consistently reconnect the Pencil Pro and the Pencil Pro drains slightly faster. I would still trust more than an after market pencil though.
I have a pencil 2 and I don't use the double-tap feature because it often mistakenly activates while drawing. The new feature of squeezing the pencil where you hold it is a very dubious idea in my opinion, as I personally squeeze the pencil harder when I press down on it and I suspect this will activate this feature. And the rotation is also unclear whether it is needed at all. The update is questionable. It would be better to add an eraser located on the opposite end of an apple pencil, like on real pencils, instead of this.
I only watched this video because I plan to buy an M4 iPad and I wanted to know if the carrot pencil cover I saw in an old TH-cam video will fit on the apple pencil pro 😂 I'm happy to see the size is the same and I can buy the pencil cover I want 🥕
@@JamesJulier-Artist IM VERY SENSITIVE AND I CANNOT FIND ANY INFORAMTION ABOUT THE LATENCY AS AN EXAMPLE AIR COMPARED TO PRO IS DOGHST WHEN IT COMES TO LATENCY THE LINES ARE SLOW FOLLOWING THE PEN BEHIND ON PRO IT DOESNT HAPPEN HELP PLZ
I bought my Apple Pencil 1 and iPad 9 and honestly that’s all I need along with procreate, nothing will make me spend money again with a useless new technology that only serves to take money from people
@@tonjel1326If you drop the pencil somewhere and can't find it, you activate the find function on the ipad and it will show you exactly where the pencil is. The find function also works with iPhones.
I hate all the bells and whistles I just want a pencil with palm rejection and sensitivity, no taps no vibration, no buttons, no extra shit, hell I'd even take cable charging since he ipad mini 6 screen gets fucked by the magnets
Wtf I bought apple pencil 2 last year but they made a new pencil with the SAME price but performs BETTER. 😡 Now my pencil 2 of the same price is basically worthless. Didn't they removed chargers so we don't buy much but then they make this!?
ненавижу эпл за то что они слили ручку второго поколения и дали нам ручку с кучей ненужных функций которые есть, но ты ими пользоваться конечно же не будешь. и все это за двойную цену ручки второго поколения.
Well since it is not compatible with all ipads then it's a huge mistake, and Apple could have gotten a lot more $ by making them compatible with ALL iPads! So for me it's a no. 🤨
Yea they did that on purpose so people would have one more reason to buy the new iPad and people who bought the new iPad would have to buy the new pencil
fanatics will buy it no matter what😂
huge mistake? you are not getting the marketing plan then.
greed knows no bounds
@@erwin.benedicto thats now how companies should work.
It would be great if apple give us the option to customise double tap for the menu option in apple pencil 2, but apple being apple it's never gonna happen
The only review i needed
Ah I’m flattered 🙏
@@JamesJulier-Artist well i been here from almost the start of this channel. Speaking of which could you make more art like you did on the ipad 2018 video i really miss the abstraction art you used to make heck better yet you might even be able to make a mini series were you tell scary stories while doing so xD hahaha
The love of money apple has, just terrible. Why don't they just make them compatible?
Well technically it’s the change of camera position, which was definitely needed and this changed the magnet configuration 🤷♂️
@@JamesJulier-Artistthey could have put it on the bottom. Same space
@@ZinoAmareinconvenient to grab I think also Apple loves aesthetics
I just upgraded to the previous iPad 6 months ago. I am disappointed in Apple trying to force me to upgrade if I want to use the new pencil pro. Apple could have easily made it work in the iPad design if they wanted to. This is obsolescence by design.
Money Matters
Thanks a lot!! There can't be anything else needed you have covered everything in a natural flow!! THANK YOU!! And yes, it seems the squeeze is the most can be useful feature so only if you have it, not much to upgrade unless you need or want the newer iPad for other reasons as well
It’s so crazy how I looked up this video subject and see this video posted 3 mins ago.
Haha good timing
Planning to buy it and make it sit in my drawer same as my previous ipad pro and apple pencil 😁
Donate to someone in need 😅
You can sell it as refurbished I think
With a real calligraphy pen or brush, you _do_ sometimes need to change the angle for certain effects. Prior to the barrel roll feature, it wasn't possible to get that effect with the Apple Pencil at all. I grant it's not something most people will need, but it does open the door to things that were practically impossible before.
Well that’s cool then
It's funny to me that they added 3 useless functions and now called it PRO
No those are 3 great functions that I will use all the time
I totally agree on the Pencil 2 double tap feature. It can be annoying. My 2018 iPad Pro gets a bit warm with Procreate. It seems to be quite demanding. So, that’s my excuse for upgrading!
It’s improved here at least
Many do. I turned it off because it was too sensitive. I like the new one far more, but can’t justify to buy a new iPad just for the squeeze feature
Can I Ask you about feature in gallery: you hold picture and then you can make for example cat sticker from photo, id this feature working im your iPad?
So did you upgraded your iPad too?. Is the the heating issue with the new one too?
I love your idea for haptic feedback to simulate drawing surfaces, I hope the developers at Apple watch your video! :)
I wouldn't buy the new Pencil Pro especially for the new functions (although they are pretty great to me), but since my old iPad Pro is showing aging problems I planned to buy the new iPad Pro anyway and since you can't use the old but 100% fine working Pencil (which is not so nice by moneygrabbing Apple (I'm trying to keep the language clean here)) I need to buy that also.
I sure hope the programmer of Sketch Club (which is the application I use to draw) will programm the new features into the app.
I think it's great that the setting is in each of the brushes. For some brushes you don't want it to "wobble" because of you changing the position of the pencil ever so slightly. And for some brushes it's absolutely wonderful to be able to steer the position.
Yesterday I returned my nano texture iPad Pro and after money refund I'll order the 2TB iPad Pro with 'normal' screen.
The keyboard and Pencil Pro are already on my work table.
I can hear the haptic feedback of the Pencil Pro! It can't wait for the iPad Pro to arrive haha 😂
Wise decision on the nano texture I think!
Are you having heating issue while using the pencil Pro with it ? I need to know because planning to get the M4Pro for note taking and drawings?
@@raftaarr.r3498im not & im using it on an m2 air.
I won’t be upgrading as love my iPad mini 6 and Apple Pencil 2. When you do your tutorials with the new iPad and Pencil will it still be compatible for the ones of us who haven’t upgraded please?
You can follow his tutorials if you have a Samsung tablet with a s-pen (or whatever they call it). You might need to use your imagination just a bit more, but it should absolutely be doable.
A different apple pencil isn't going to have any effect.
@@herranton Haha.
I definitely think the barrel roll will help with some brushes that seem to go backwards before they go in the right direction, if that makes sense. It’s very annoying like drawing say braids and the first one is backward.
I wonder if you have drawn with the I pad mini 6 or your thoughts? On it.
It is a combination of the new Pro Pen and the availability of Nano Glass that has drawn Me to the iPad lineup.... Throw in 120 Hrtz and its heaven on earth...
Even a scratch in the note feels like modern artistic painting.
I tried the pencil pro and loved it instantly but not the price tag
Yeah I hear you
how do you compare in term of battery drainage per single charge, i found that the new pro only last 3 hours per charge when i work.
Good points.
Thank you
Thought the pro pencil works with the M2 iPad pros…. That’s what it says on the site
it works with the ipad air m2 but not with pro
It’s the camera location that messes up the compatibility apparently.
I would like to inquire about the battery performance and durability of the device under consideration. It appears the pencil has no power toggle switch.
I previously encountered a rather unfortunate predicament wherein the original Apple Pencil, having only once been inadvertently left uncharged, succumbed to the perils of depleted energy and failed to regain functionality thereafter.
They need to have the squeeze feature on the normal price stylus
Great review
Great review!
Barrel roll function would be great for doing something like a fan brush.
Do you use any screen protector on your new iPad?
Wait so the new Apple Pencil 2 js not compatible with the new iPads did you mean to say that I’m lost
yeah i think i'll just stick to my apple pencil 2, thanks.
Which iPad are you using here?
Finally got the pro pen, but the problem is my ipad air m2 battery drained like crazy :,)
Recently I bought my Ipad pro 13inch and an Apple pencil pro..❤❤
Im getting it for the oled and the pencil
Did you get the M4 pro? Any heating issue while using the Pencil?
@@raftaarr.r3498 i ended up putting it off for now so i can get a new car by the end of the year.
Great review/comparison, thanks! They should have just made the haptic feedback on the base Pencil 2 model. But really these squeeze and tap functions are reinventing the wheel. I love the gestures as a method of interaction on touch screen, so Apple definitely improved my workflow with that. But they should have just put 2 buttons on the Pencil like Wacom. So in case of gestures, they make keyboards obsolete for many applications. But having buttons on the stylus is most efficient and pleasant. They take tactile “effort” to push that’s both pleasant and not prone to accidents. The tap/squeeze Pencil should be the regular model, but the one with 2 buttons - Pro model.
This is design driven by fad, as in, look we’ve come up with something new. A proper innovation is talking to artists and working with artists. Watching what they’re doing and improving their workflow. Don’t get me wrong, I love Apple Pencil even version 1, but they haven’t improved it functionally. I mean look at mechanical pencils, they have erasers built in. Why? So you could flip it over, erase, and flip back to sketch. Tap to switch to eraser (and looking to confirm that you actually did) is equivalent to picking up a separate eraser, using it, and then picking up the pencil again. How cool would it be to press and hold a button to erase instead? 99.9% of the time you use an eraser to fix things, not go into a whole erasing session! This “toggle” thing just doesn’t work, because you have to confirm it by looking at the icons. Yes I still use it anyway, but it’s just not ideal. And the 2nd button could be a color picker or some other programmable function.
Double tap is only annoying if you don’t use a rubber on your pencil. If you do this feature works as intended without accidental tapping. It’s so much faster ✌️
Oh it’s a good idea agreed, just annoying when it’s activated accidentally. The Pro makes that less likely so that’s great
@@JamesJulier-Artist I had double tap always off but recently discovered that is doesn't really work when rubber is on 😁 it made me very happy because now I do actually use it and I like it. With squeeze that combo will be really nice 👍
It just doesn't feel the same with a rubber.
Someone had to say it ...
@@herranton rubber around the pen for better grip feels bad? OK 😁👍
7:16 would have loved to have seen that in this video man 😭
I appreciate your video comparisons and tutorials. I hope you share about the difference in sizes between the Pro and Air 13" and 11" if you got them? Every iPad update I've done has been based on the new features and size. I can remember my first iPad was the iPad 2, then I got the first gen iPad Pro 12.9" and I had that for a while before "downsizing" to the iPad Mini 6th Gen and recently traded that one in to get the latest M2 iPad Air 13" as I feel I don't really need the expense or fanciness of the Pro features. I was going to attempt using the iPad without an apple pencil as my pencil 2 is now useless to me but I caved and will receive the pro pencil this week. I'm hoping I can sell/give away the pencil 2 to someone who needs it.
"Apple supports its devices for years"
Apple one year later:
why won't Apple just add an eraser at the end of the pencil, that would feel more natural for erase tool like on the Wacom pencils. Other than that, looks fine.
Agree
I got a new pencil pro from FB for $70. Doesn't make sense to buy at big box anymore
super surprised to see that my Apple pencil 2 doesn't work with my new iPad Pro M4. what the heck
Yeah it’s a frustration
Squezq did not work on procreate?
It required an update
It works now after the update. Squeeze brings up the sub menu over the canvas.
I hated the double tap feature, too. Kept accidentally toggling the dang thing
Yep
It’s a good session if you pick the pro
Is 120 hz,3 cameras better than upgrading to apple pencil pro?
What about ipad pro m2 which one works with it
I wouldn’t buy the iPad specifically for the new Pencil Pro but if you want a new M4 iPad then guess what? You’re probably forced to buy the new Pencil Pro unless you go after market. I didn’t see much difference between the Pencil 2 and Pro except I have to consistently reconnect the Pencil Pro and the Pencil Pro drains slightly faster. I would still trust more than an after market pencil though.
i wont change my 2021 ipad pro for that, same resolution , same size, and thiner sucks
Haha fair enough
You’re right it’s a meh! Upgrade.😊
can't wait for Pencil Pro Max or Pencil Plus 'cause this Pencil Pro size is still small for me
I have a pencil 2 and I don't use the double-tap feature because it often mistakenly activates while drawing. The new feature of squeezing the pencil where you hold it is a very dubious idea in my opinion, as I personally squeeze the pencil harder when I press down on it and I suspect this will activate this feature. And the rotation is also unclear whether it is needed at all. The update is questionable. It would be better to add an eraser located on the opposite end of an apple pencil, like on real pencils, instead of this.
I might have bought it if it were compatible for my ipad but no since it’s not possible 😀
The Pro has lighter gray writing on the side and the 2 has darker gray writing or is it just me?
Not only that but he maybe did not see but you can see the shadow of the medium your using
I only watched this video because I plan to buy an M4 iPad and I wanted to know if the carrot pencil cover I saw in an old TH-cam video will fit on the apple pencil pro 😂
I'm happy to see the size is the same and I can buy the pencil cover I want 🥕
There is literally no reason why this shouldn't work on older iPads lol.
Double tap is useless for me, I don't hold the pen like how it should be tapped, so it's difficult for my gesture, but barrel and calligraphy is fun
You have azimuth anyway in procreate so USELESS
Thanks again for the info. I finally bought an Ipad(pro) so looking forward to trying your tutorials.
Ah that’s fantastic hope you have fun
WHAT ABOUT THE LATENCY BETWEEN THE 2
Nothing that makes any difference
@@JamesJulier-Artist IM VERY SENSITIVE AND I CANNOT FIND ANY INFORAMTION ABOUT THE LATENCY AS AN EXAMPLE AIR COMPARED TO PRO IS DOGHST WHEN IT COMES TO LATENCY THE LINES ARE SLOW FOLLOWING THE PEN BEHIND ON PRO IT DOESNT HAPPEN HELP PLZ
I bought my Apple Pencil 1 and iPad 9 and honestly that’s all I need along with procreate, nothing will make me spend money again with a useless new technology that only serves to take money from people
Was your Apple Pencil 1 and iPad 9 also useless technology ?
They r discontinuing ipad air chip m1😢
Don’t forget about find function - a deal breaker for me
Damn I did forget that! lol
What is find function? Is it a deal breaker for the pro pencil?
@@tonjel1326If you drop the pencil somewhere and can't find it, you activate the find function on the ipad and it will show you exactly where the pencil is. The find function also works with iPhones.
Ich bin sehr glücklich
Respect
Pencil Pro is compatible with A17 iPad mini.
Why dose the Appel pencil sounds nice then mine and different
how is the tip of the apple pencil 2? is it slippery?
Why don’t any of these videos cover stylus latency??
Because it’s not an issue unless you use slow motion to see the difference. You definitely don’t feel any difference
Unnecessary. I was thinking about buying the ipad air 2024 because of the apple pen, but i will go gor the ipad pro 2022 now
I have to make the same choise
So it's a money grab? Once you upgrade your ipad, eventually you'll have to buy the Pro...
I hate all the bells and whistles
I just want a pencil with palm rejection and sensitivity, no taps no vibration, no buttons, no extra shit, hell I'd even take cable charging since he ipad mini 6 screen gets fucked by the magnets
Wtf I bought apple pencil 2 last year but they made a new pencil with the SAME price but performs BETTER. 😡 Now my pencil 2 of the same price is basically worthless. Didn't they removed chargers so we don't buy much but then they make this!?
Hi
Hi
This app is called procreate
Yes it is
Fart. Why didn't I watch this video first.
Pro?! Just a marketing scam🤭, does it clean,cook and make garden work around the house…
ненавижу эпл за то что они слили ручку второго поколения и дали нам ручку с кучей ненужных функций которые есть, но ты ими пользоваться конечно же не будешь. и все это за двойную цену ручки второго поколения.
I wanted to see a comparison between the Pencil 2 and Pencil Pro. Click bait. It's a comparison between Pencil 2 and the original.
lol no it’s not silly
What video are you watching? It’s a comparison between Pencil 2 and Pro
I think you either need to watch this video again, or maybe you have commented on the wrong one 😂
but i got pro version cheaper than gen 2
What about the iPad Pro PLUS PRO PLUS PLUS? 🤪🫡😂 Thank you James👍🏻
Haha my pleasure
😂😂😂 that was funnyLOL!!