Ep. 28: Fitting the Soundpost
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ก.ค. 2018
- This video helps you to better understand what it takes to fit the soundpost.
It can be done in a few minutes, hours, or even days.
Here we talk about doing things better and that's why we talk about sound Adjustment.
Now, the shocking news is that your violin can also sound fabulous with a horrible adjusted soundpost.
Well-fitted Soundposts are not a guarantee that your instrument will sound great.
But a perfect soundpost will do with your sound exactly what you want it to do.
So a Factory instrument does not change its character because of the €200 fitted soundpost of a great Italian Master violin such as a Stradivari, Guarneri or one of my violins. 😉
Consider the soundpost as a “tool” in order to be able to adjust the sound to your personal requirements. And only with a perfect adjusted soundpost this is possible within the sound properties of every single instrument made with little or a lot of accuracy.
It really took us a while to have all the equipment in order to get such a great video done. But I guess that here my daughter Anna did a Masterpiece of Video elaboration in order that you get the complete picture.
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I just bought a cello sound post setting tool and adjusted my wife's beautiful new cello. I work on guitars but never tried anything like this before. The only guy in town that passes for a luthier put the post in crooked and too far in so I decided I needed to learn this skill. I trimmed it and set it exactly like you demonstrated and now her cello sounds better. Thank you so much for the lessons!
*It's been 4 years since you posted this video but, THANK YOU for keeping it up!!! It is spectacular!!!* 👍❤️
Now I am less intimidated to work on my great grandmother's 120 year old violin. Your videos have been helping so much. I can't wait to get the reproduction strad back to playable condition.
I bought a cello that did not have a post in it, so the face is warped and everything. I put my post in with exactly the same method shown here, but i had never seen a video like this before. I am proud of myself and very grateful for this video for reassuring me
Thanks so much for this video! Fitting a new soundpost is one of the most common things needed when restoring or repairing a stringed instrument.
Craig macdonald here not kath very good interesting and instructional thank you very much , I find your videos very absorbing .
Thanx mate! As a Luthier, who realizes that 'time is money', I can recommend two words to you---"DISC SANDER". Gb
Thank You so very much for not only this video and the upcoming one ,,, but for all of your videos. You share so much information that your videos have become a valuable tool not only to me but I'm sure to alot of others as well , again , Thank You !!
Russ Corbett thank you very much!
This kind of video and knowlesdge is absolutely priceless and so precious. Thanks you for sharing !
Thanks Edgar for your excellent tutorials. Your attention to pragmatic details is superb!
Marcos, your comment makes me even more happy.
Thanks and all the best!
ER
thank you for very informative video.🙏🙏🙏
Thank you. I’m definitely confident now in refitting the sound post in my bass - I might even make my own setting tool!
Excellent. So kind of you to share.
You are welcome! I am happy to know that you like it!
All the best from Cremona
ER
Very useful. I’ve just replaced the soundpost on my gamba with the help of this video. Danke!
Fantastic thank you. 🙏
this is a superb video, thank you!!!!
Great video. Thank you so much!
Great video!
So helpful! Thank you!
You are welcome! All the best
Edgar
YOU ARE A EUROPEAN MASTER ! THANK YOU !
Thank you SOOOO much Edgar. I'm learning how to do this myself since I can't find anyone qualified to do it...
I can't even find the tools. Everything available comes from China and takes a month or more so I'm making my own tools as well.
Wooh! I see you have a Morin Khuur behind you ,and I play it too. Although I came here for my cello. 😂 Do you play it?😊
Thanks for all your videos! They are great. Everyone sets the sound post vertically in the correct position, and then adjusts the top location slightly for best even sound, response, and volume. But, what about moving the bottom of the post? Can you adjust sound a little by moving the bottom of the post also, or is it almost insignificant?
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I am very interested to know what equipment upgrades you've had for video making since the start of this channel? What mic do you use and what camera?
Regards
Mahad Alam
That one tool for the angle is called a sliding T bevel, took me a little bit to figure it out.
Thank you, sir
Edgar,
How do you cut the slit in the new soundpost so the tool will fit?
interesting - I saw a japanese saw.
You proved again - saliva is the perfect material for Kunsthandwerk
For engish speakers, the squadra falsa os a sliding bevel square
Thanks Simone for the hint!!
I'm noticing that sound posts always seem to be made from spruce . Why ? I'm wanting to try oak , walnut , poplar , maple , cedar and other woods to see if it effects the sound or tone differently .
Russ Corbett it will change less than you imagine as long it is made out of wood. I would rather spend more time in getting really good in fitting precise. That makes much more difference.
But anyhow let us know your results. We are all very curious about your new experiments!
ER
Thank you for the informative video. When I moved, my sound post fell down and there are no Luthiers within driving distance. What camera did you use to show inside the endpin hole? My cello sounded great before I moved. I wish there was a mark inside for the sound post location.
He said it was a 'go pro'
Edgar thanks for sharing your expertise; the cello I am working on has three small pads on the top and bottom plates for the soundpost to be installed between;is this unusual?I see that the Cello you are working on here does not have this feature.
I believe that has been placed by an amateur. since you are working on it right now I would take that out.
all the best from Cremona
Edgar
Maestro, I’ve just had my very ancient cello fully restored here in Australia (20 month restoration completed April 10, 2021) . The top plate was re-arched, a new bass bar and new bridge were fitted etc etc. Would you advise that I get a new soundpost fitted in a month or two even though the cello isn’t new? I’m assuming the top plate might want to settle a bit, even though it has been repaired and reinforced.
Retired professional here. Get a "temporary " sound post made for it immediately , so it can be played. It will need to be played pretty regularly, and try to keep it in the coolest part of your house.Get it checked around the 4-5 month period, and you should hear when it "plays up and is not "performing". Remember, cello top and bottom plates are way tougher and thicker than violins, so move less and move more slowly. I tink a 4 moth [eriod should eb good.
Hello, thanks for the useful information! I would like to ask how to repair a dent in the inner upper violin body, instead of the connection of the upper sound post. This is an ancient and expensive Italian violin.
Thanks.
sorry but I didn't understand what you are asking here.
@@EdgarRuss I have an antique violin, that due to the many years, the sound post created a small dent in the place of the connection on the top plate of the violin. How can this be fixed?
Hi possible to get the size and what kind of dowal
They sell inexpensive "borescopes" Amazon, etc. I saw one for circa $20. Would be better for the videos? Try to get a nice one. I'm sure you'll like it.
Thank you for your great tip regarding a borescope. I didn’t even know that it could cost so little!
Thanks
ER
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Hi Edgar,
could you make a video about the violin chinrest?
Hi Pedraig, Thanks for the advice! I will keep track of it!!
Keep watching :)
Have a nice weekend!
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Please suggest something for my nasal sound on e string ? All the strings are good not able to balance of the e string only rest all the strings are also balanced
Nitin Shete I need to see the instrument in order to help you. But by now I would like to know how far the soundpost is from the bridge food?
ER
Great video, thank you, I was under the impression by watching episode 5 that the SP has to be placed behind the bridge foot, as many mm as the thickness of the top plate there. Here you say the SP should be placed behind the bridge foot, as many mm as the thickness of the SP itself. Maybe I'm making a mistake, please tell me and put me out of my misery.
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He says it's the thickness of the wood. I would assume it's still the top wood :-)
Yes indeed I am still referring just as in Ep5 to the thickness of the top in that specific area!
Take your time and watch carefully again!
Thanks for your attention
All the best
ER
I just went and watched ep. 05, and found out that the soundpost should be right where I had been led to believe it should be. Go figure !!
Uff.. I totally do not understand, how you will find exact position.. 😮
You can measure outside body, placement of bridge, etc., ok, but violin/hello is not from glass.. So how you find inside position, if you have outside measurement? 🤯
I am asking, because this setting is waiting on me, I have bought a violin kit, quite decent one, so, despite of finish all things, I can not imagine how to precisely position soundpost.. We are talking about millimeters.. All videos show similar approach, etc.. But how to measure? Make some marks inside body? Before glueing? But bridge could be repositioned, so preliniary marks become useless.. Thank you for video and any help from anybody..
Do you only use one sound post on a cello or two?
Always one.
The cabinets these luthiers have are something else. Look at that door or a leg... thing weights 700kg empty!
Hello i just purchased a new cello from the biggest retailer. The instrument does not have a sound post. Di absolutely need a sound post?
Yes! Don't tune it up without one. It will sound terrible too without one. TAKE THAT CELLO BACK AND DEMAND ONE WITH A SOUND POST.
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I just got a Yinfente 5 String Acoustic-Electric Cello & this video is very helpful cause it was shipped with the sound post down but good thing the strings are loose.
I just received the exact same instrument, and the soundpost was rolling around inside. Did they resolve it for you, or leave you on your own to get it fixed? Without a soundpost, there is almost no volume produced by a bow on the correctly tightened/tuned strings - once the soundpost is fitted the lacking volume will be resolved?
@@steveprivate The Soundpost also helps make the top stronger.
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He talks too much about nothing important