Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge in such a clear and informative way! Today I went thought my first ever soundpost fishing and setting operation on my double bass with ad-hoc home-made tools. Now I have a much better understanding of what I should get in the end and how. Tomorrow I will adjust it in a more informed way. And I will definitely explore the other episodes!
Thank you, maestro, for the valuable information you are so kindly sharing with us. Now when we go to our luthiers for set up at least we know what he is doing and also discussing it with him.
Exactly! Remember you can always come to my workshop in Cremona to have your instrument 100% checked! Write me an email (edgar@eruss.it) to make an appointment in case! Have a nice day!
Thank you again Corbett for watching and following me!!! If you did not already, check out my newsletter: once a month you will receive something very interesting about violinmaking and my instruments! mailchi.mp/e94961762709/subscribe-to-my-newletter Hope to see you there! Have a nice week :)
For the "Whoops too much sideways movement " I pictured an adjuster with a deep U shape cut out 90degrees to the handle. So --good for pushing and also for pulling. For Northways adjustment a thin stick through the end pin hole with a V shape end. This could push just one millimetre "North" .One push for the top of the post and one for the bottom. Even Stephen . Pulling South is not so easy. Maybe combine the stick and knock it back with the stick there for safety .
Bravo Maestro! As always, very informative and explained well. I and another viewer here (post below - Henri Roy) have very bad Wolf Tones and "choked" sounds. We would benefit much if you could talk about wolf tones on one video. Thank you!
Hello Master, thank you so much for all of your sharing, they are so interesting, after watched your video I got a question, are both ends of sound post straight edge? I thought the inner part of the top and back boards are curved? looking forward to hear your opinion. Thank you so much.
I'm curious about the history of the violin. It seems like it was perfected relatively quickly and hasn't changed much in a few hundred years. Do people hold on too much to the old methods and scared of new technology or has it truly been perfected with no need for change?
@@EdgarRuss yes! i think we need new materials and techniques of production :) although the current way we do it is good enough i think we still need to explore for new possibilities
Thank You for all advices. Do You think this kind of things as sound post adjustments could be done at home with the proper tools? I am a professional string player myself. How big is danger of causing the crack on the top of the instrument when sound post placed to tight? Yours Piotr
When you're making one of your own cello's you can adjust the posts as you like. But if you're making a replica Montagnana do you have to have the braces and posts in the exact same positions as the "original"? To get THAT sound? In addition to getting as close as possible to making the body the same dimensions? Curious...can you tell me how much one of your Montagnana cello's cost in $US? Full size. Like to have an idea.
Does the sound post have to be set up at the right side and not on the left side? I thought it would be logical to be on the left side to stablize the more heavier C-string that would add more pressure on the bridge...
great topic and videos about the soundpost! Thanks! I'm learning so much through your videos. One question about the bottom part of the soundpost. Do you leave the bottom of the soundpost at the same place (maybe the standard starting point)? I can imagine when you move the soundpost top the post gets a slight angle. What are the limits and effects of an angled soundpost?
Hallo Edgar...thank you for the video. I learn a lot, but still don't brave enough to do it my self..haha I still confuse with "the thickness of the top in that very position" means. It is refer to the thickness of the cello top body? And I still curious about the thickness of the sound post and it's effect. Is it possible if someday you share about that?
Hello Edgar, for an entry level orchestral model cello, is it true that there isn’t a need to use a European bridge but by adjusting the sound pole, it’s good enough?
Good question. I wondered about this, too. Post measurements could be fine at the top but post could still be crooked. Surprised this wasn't addressed in the video.
He mentions the bottom of the post in another video. Apparently It affects mainly the low end of frequencies, and it should be perfectly fit to the back, and surprisingly it doest need to be perfectly straight for the best results, though having it straight is an ideal starting point. On some instruments the bottom of the post may be placed towards the bass bar, slightly of course, less than 1mm.
Sehr geehrter Herr Russ bin 64 und jetzt habe ich Zeit um Instrumente zu bauen , Vor allem Gitarren sie erreichen einen Preis von 6000 Fr.- Flamenco oder Classics . Nun habe ich die Geige meiner Mutter restauriert und bin nun fasziniert von dieser Geige . Darf ich Ihnen wirklich gratulieren für Ihre Super Videos , habe fast 1000jähriges Cello Holz und das möchte ich als nächstes Projekt machen ein Cello bauen ,haben ie Baupläne zum Verkauf oder soll ich sie von Grund auf zeichnen , nach dem Buch von S. E. Sacconi , was raten Sie mir . Der Boden Super geflammt ja einfach irre aber die Decke könnt besser sein Jahrringe Abstand 2-3 mm. Vielen Dank für Ihre Info Grüsse aus der Innerschweiz
I have a Thomann beginner cello, spruce top and plywood back. Sounds good on the two higher strings but has no base at all and feels like playing on a wet cardboard box. It annoys me very much and I feel like it interferes with my playing as I try too hard to get some power out of the lower notes. Is that just how these cheaper cellos are or could it be due to the sound post position?
I believe that there is always something you can do to make it sound better; but it needs someone who knows what has to be done. Only different isn't necessary better! The sound character can't be changed; but the responding yes! Most of the times it shows that you became better and you actually qualified for a better sounding instrument. Instead of quitting I suggest to search for a better sounding one. All the best from Cremona Edgar
You cannot adjust individual strings by moving the soundpost but rather the general balance point from bass to treble. If there is a noticeable weakness on a specific string, especially the middle ones, then bridge may need some work. Working on the kidneys, opening them up a little bit more, especially under the problematic string, checking the thickness at that area and also checking the groove deepness both on the bridge and the nut helps. Sometimes a deep groove may just be the reason of a muffled string. Also, depending on the string set and your playing style, some strings may detoriate faster than others, especially if it's been used much often than others. But these are very technical points and if you are a musician, then these should be checked by a luthier.
This made what seemed like magic very clear and logical to me. Thank you.
Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge in such a clear and informative way! Today I went thought my first ever soundpost fishing and setting operation on my double bass with ad-hoc home-made tools. Now I have a much better understanding of what I should get in the end and how. Tomorrow I will adjust it in a more informed way. And I will definitely explore the other episodes!
That’s right. First video I can actually understand
Thank you, maestro, for the valuable information you are so kindly sharing with us. Now when we go to our luthiers for set up at least we know what he is doing and also discussing it with him.
Exactly! Remember you can always come to my workshop in Cremona to have your instrument 100% checked!
Write me an email (edgar@eruss.it) to make an appointment in case!
Have a nice day!
I truly can't Thank You enough for this, and for All of your videos . The amount of information you share is Incredible .
Thank you again Corbett for watching and following me!!!
If you did not already, check out my newsletter: once a month you will receive something very interesting about violinmaking and my instruments!
mailchi.mp/e94961762709/subscribe-to-my-newletter
Hope to see you there! Have a nice week :)
thank you Edgar.
For the "Whoops too much sideways movement " I pictured an adjuster with a deep U shape cut out 90degrees to the handle. So --good for pushing and also for pulling. For Northways adjustment a thin stick through the end pin hole with a V shape end. This could push just one millimetre "North" .One push for the top of the post and one for the bottom. Even Stephen . Pulling South is not so easy. Maybe combine the stick and knock it back with the stick there for safety .
Bravo Maestro! As always, very informative and explained well.
I and another viewer here (post below - Henri Roy) have very bad Wolf Tones and "choked" sounds. We would benefit much if you could talk about wolf tones on one video. Thank you!
I will add this topic on my list of videos! Thank you for the suggestion.
Have a nice day!
Super thanks! Great tutorial.
埃德嘉先生，你的大.小琴提琴音柱的安裝很專業。看完你的视频，学了许多。谢谢你耐心细心无私的教学。想请問3/4大提琴音柱的長度多少厘米?按在琴桥那個位置，音色才优美，再次谢谢，向你敬意。Thank you， Come from Hong。Kong。
Very useful video, grazie molto
Fascinating!
So informative, thx always 👍🏼
Thanks a lot!!
Thank you!
Glad you liked the video! Have a nice day :)
No need to protect the f holes edges with some material to prevent it from scratching it with S tool?
Hello Master, thank you so much for all of your sharing, they are so interesting, after watched your video I got a question, are both ends of sound post straight edge? I thought the inner part of the top and back boards are curved? looking forward to hear your opinion. Thank you so much.
I'm curious about the history of the violin. It seems like it was perfected relatively quickly and hasn't changed much in a few hundred years. Do people hold on too much to the old methods and scared of new technology or has it truly been perfected with no need for change?
Hello!
I think this question needs more than a few sentences here.. Maybe an idea for a new video? Let me know!
Have a nice day :)
I would love that! Probably a tough nut to crack though.
@@EdgarRuss yes! i think we need new materials and techniques of production :) although the current way we do it is good enough i think we still need to explore for new possibilities
Thank You for all advices. Do You think this kind of things as sound post adjustments could be done at home with the proper tools? I am a professional string player myself. How big is danger of causing the crack on the top of the instrument when sound post placed to tight? Yours Piotr
Would like to thank-you for this video I will be doing the same ,and love the tool
👌🏼
Thanks Douglas!
When you're making one of your own cello's you can adjust the posts as you like. But if you're making a replica Montagnana do you have to have the braces and posts in the exact same positions as the "original"? To get THAT sound? In addition to getting as close as possible to making the body the same dimensions?
Curious...can you tell me how much one of your Montagnana cello's cost in $US? Full size. Like to have an idea.
Sir, ur knowledge and skills are amazing but it be so much better if you use a close mic..the echo makes it difficult to understand.
Thanks for the video, ist the 7mm for a 4/4 Bass or a standard 4/4 Bass? Thanks to Corona I have to do it on my own after string replacement.
Does the sound post have to be set up at the right side and not on the left side? I thought it would be logical to be on the left side to stablize the more heavier C-string that would add more pressure on the bridge...
great topic and videos about the soundpost! Thanks! I'm learning so much through your videos.
One question about the bottom part of the soundpost. Do you leave the bottom of the soundpost at the same place (maybe the standard starting point)? I can imagine when you move the soundpost top the post gets a slight angle. What are the limits and effects of an angled soundpost?
Great video Edgar, as always. Do you think the density of the sound post wood or the number of grains could affect the sound of the instrument? Thanks
Probably. I experimented with varying density sound posts and different types of wood and there were noticeable differences.
Thank you for the videos especially the cello ones. Edgar, can I order this brass tool from you for measuring the sound post distance?
Hallo Edgar...thank you for the video. I learn a lot, but still don't brave enough to do it my self..haha
I still confuse with "the thickness of the top in that very position" means. It is refer to the thickness of the cello top body?
And I still curious about the thickness of the sound post and it's effect. Is it possible if someday you share about that?
Great video ! Makes it look so easy,
Hello Edgar, for an entry level orchestral model cello, is it true that there isn’t a need to use a European bridge but by adjusting the sound pole, it’s good enough?
Do you also adjust the bottom of post, to keep it perfectly straight? Or just the top of the post?
Good question. I wondered about this, too. Post measurements could be fine at the top but post could still be crooked. Surprised this wasn't addressed in the video.
He mentions the bottom of the post in another video. Apparently It affects mainly the low end of frequencies, and it should be perfectly fit to the back, and surprisingly it doest need to be perfectly straight for the best results, though having it straight is an ideal starting point. On some instruments the bottom of the post may be placed towards the bass bar, slightly of course, less than 1mm.
Sehr geehrter Herr Russ bin 64 und jetzt habe ich Zeit um Instrumente zu bauen , Vor allem Gitarren sie erreichen einen Preis von 6000 Fr.- Flamenco oder Classics . Nun habe ich die Geige meiner Mutter restauriert und bin nun fasziniert von dieser Geige . Darf ich Ihnen wirklich gratulieren für Ihre Super Videos , habe fast 1000jähriges Cello Holz und das möchte ich als nächstes Projekt machen ein Cello bauen ,haben ie Baupläne zum Verkauf oder soll ich sie von Grund auf zeichnen , nach dem Buch von S. E. Sacconi , was raten Sie mir . Der Boden Super geflammt ja einfach irre aber die Decke könnt besser sein Jahrringe Abstand 2-3 mm. Vielen Dank für Ihre Info
Grüsse aus der Innerschweiz
I have a Thomann beginner cello, spruce top and plywood back. Sounds good on the two higher strings but has no base at all and feels like playing on a wet cardboard box. It annoys me very much and I feel like it interferes with my playing as I try too hard to get some power out of the lower notes. Is that just how these cheaper cellos are or could it be due to the sound post position?
I believe that there is always something you can do to make it sound better; but it needs someone who knows what has to be done. Only different isn't necessary better!
The sound character can't be changed; but the responding yes!
Most of the times it shows that you became better and you actually qualified for a better sounding instrument.
Instead of quitting I suggest to search for a better sounding one.
All the best from Cremona
Edgar
Cool
maestro my A string on cello sounds too weak. i want it to be strong and projecting. what should i do? thx!
And if just the third string is weaker? Where to should we move the sound post? Thanks
You cannot adjust individual strings by moving the soundpost but rather the general balance point from bass to treble. If there is a noticeable weakness on a specific string, especially the middle ones, then bridge may need some work. Working on the kidneys, opening them up a little bit more, especially under the problematic string, checking the thickness at that area and also checking the groove deepness both on the bridge and the nut helps. Sometimes a deep groove may just be the reason of a muffled string. Also, depending on the string set and your playing style, some strings may detoriate faster than others, especially if it's been used much often than others. But these are very technical points and if you are a musician, then these should be checked by a luthier.
Amei muito, e Minha ideia é aprender o violino, e acho muito excelente de resto é comigo.
It's a Violin Barbie Home inside
Thanks Mastero! I have oredered the tool and I will try to see if I can improve my cheap shity violin's sound :D
Wow
Tu es formidable, pour moi qui va fabriquer mon violencelle, tu donnes de précieux informations
I'm liking you videos but I can't stop hearing little things your saying that seem to contradict other things you said.