My tip is that if you want to go a bit wacky with orange, try using dark violet or purple wash as a swadow for orange. I did this with my blood bowl team's wights armour and it worked surprisingly well because of the blue pigment in those colours.
Great video, as always - slight historical connection. The orange was first imported to Europe in the late 15th, early16th Century and the word first recorded as having been used in English in 1512. I'm a mine of absolutely useless, irrelevant information... :-)
Orange is not only narrow in our minds in terms of hue position (i.e. it becomes "red" or "yellow" pretty fast as we move around the colour wheel, but also limited in terms of tone (i.e. where terms like "beige" and "brown" are fundamentally used instead). In fact, I work in gemstones and had to convince a jewellery student who was asking where "brown" (or "dark orange") was on the colour spectrum by getting her to open MS Paint, pick the brightest orange default colour and then pull the tone scale down towards the black end of the spectrum. We simply don't imagine "dark orange" in the way we would, say, "dark blue" or "dark green". "Pink" is an even bigger mess, as nobody can decide if it is (i) light-toned red, (ii) analogous to Magenta or (iii) both.
it was really helpful that you were holding the example frog while explaining. It's much easier to understand while seeing it vs grabbing bottles of paint to see later.
I've always love how much more informed I walk away after watching your hobby cheating videos.vince you make some absolutely stellar educational content. Thank you for all of your time and effort you spend helping to educate us painters that aren't as well versed in some of these artistic elements. Again amazing work and thank you for all of you time. You are a black g to this community
This channel is so good i'm glad i found it. I started to paint model and it can a bit overwhelming since there is so much factors that come into consideration. There are lots of other tutorial and such out there but this guy has it: it's always very clear on the point easy to understand as he explains well and show at the the time. Goldmine of info that helps others to improve.
@@VinceVenturella These and your history of videos are my favorite "paint to" content on your channel since this is exactly the kind of nerdy stuff and semi-useless knowledge, that my brain in filled with....
Vince. I want to thank you for taking the time to explain how to work with the different colors. Recently a good friend of mine asked me to paint a figure for him. The figure features a female wearing skin tight electric blue pants with two broad red stripes running down the sides. I was excited to work with such loud colors and also completely lost as to how to make these colors work. I watched your videos on these colors and I'm very happy with my results. I couldn't have done it without your guidance. I'm truly grateful for you sharing your knowledge. I'd like to share pics with you if there is somewhere I can send them... Thanks!
Thank you Vince for your very distinct style of making painting videos. I have yet to find annother creator that shares painting knowledge in such a grounded and detailed way. I espacially like your super focused, detailed in depth videos like this colour series. Keep up :)
You're exploration of different colors has been super helpful. I have a basic understanding of color theory but you have definitely helped enrich my understandomg of some things
Have you bugged my phone? The night before you posted the basing video I said to my friend "I wish one of my favourite miniature painting youtubers had a video about how to stick the minis onto new bases." And the next day the video on your channel went up. As a joke I said into my phone "hey Vince the next video should be an all about colour for Orange" !!! I have just gone down the miniature painting rabbit hole (that moment when you go from base/shade/highlight and realise there is layering and airbrushing and zenethil and volume sketching and glazing.....) so I've been loving your channel. Thanks for reading my mind!
That orange over a standard zenithal does zap the pop of the color, but man does it make a nice desaturated base for certain kinds of leather. I remember one time just playing around with my Warcolours by mixing Red 1 (which while technically red pushes as close to orange without being orange as you can) with Black at about a 2:1 or 3:1 ratio, and it made some very interesting brown colors that you just can't get straight from one of the droppers. They were dark yet warm at the same time. Good colors for certain monsters for sure. Looked like something you'd see on some of the more nuanced depictions of the Marvel villain Carnage when the artists weren't using only red and black to color him with just flat super saturated hues.
It's true, you can use the desaturated nature to your advantage, I just wanted to make sure I was clear as I think many people have a challenge with getting the bright warm orange, so I just wanted to make sure. :)
Holy hell I wish I had this video 6 months ago! I've been trying to paint a dragon that is burning from the inside out so all the center points and between the scutes are bright orange and yellow and the more exterior points like the horns and teeth are dark red to black. I fought the orange so hard and now it all makes sense! Thanks Vince
16:38 excellent! My 300+ collection of paints is justified! ;o) I often have conversations with people who suggest large paint collections are wasted money; I always knew that there are some colours that just cannot be mixed from primaries, even if you use CYM instead of the more traditional RYB
Mikey R Of source you can mix them. It’s just a bit more difficult than most, especially if you don’t have access to single piment paints. That’s not to say there’s not a good reason to have 300+ pots (for one thing, why shouldn’t you?).
Hi @@alfyb4512, that's almost true, but not quite. There are some single pigment colours that you cannot match by mixing two other pigments. You can get close, but not exact. I'm sure there's some science involved, and wavelengths and such like, but some bright oranges and really bright greens are beyond my mixing skills, even when I switch to CMYK.
Yeah, we are limited by the pigments that the people are using (which of course have certain properties and impurities from the pure wavelength, so it can be very difficult to get some specific colors. I am obviously never going to judge for too many paints, paint is awesome. :)
Even though I don't paint much right now, some colour theory is osmosising in to my brain. I was mixing colours this afternoon, and I realised my appreciation of colours is very different to how it was when I was painting only a year ago.
I am working on a very orange project right now! (A robot from Infinity). This model is sort of the proof of concept for the rest of the army. This video has been VERY helpful!
The paint Orange over Ivory (a warm white) trick saved me time thanks. I use to use white. The change has significantly reduced the amount of effort coating/fixing sharp edges takes. Painting a Blitz Bowl Chaos Team. Orange and Turquoise. Going to re-watch the fur videos for the beastmen next.
Thanks Vince! My love for this series hasn't desaturated. :-) Just a thought to illustrate the fact that you need to use "orange pigments" to get a poppier orange, instead of mixing red and yellow: since the spectrum for orange is "thin" on the color wheel, it is harder to touch / be close to the "exterior border" of the wheel when mixing, because when you mix you actually move along the segment that joins the points where your starting colors are. Of course at this stage I'd need a drawing... but the triangle between "poppy orange", "poppy red" and "poppy yellow" is more pointy (because of the reduced perception of orange), thus making the orange point further away from the side that joins red and yellow.
Just about to paint the new Squighogs with an orange (which has been my ork armor colour choice) and this really helped me determine how to approach shadows without relying on washes. Hopefully mixing some blue into it will help it look natural
Excellent exploration of the color as always! Have you ever considered making a video about how to use/mix very pastel/heavily tinted colors? (i.e. minty green, very light blue, light violet and so on). I think these kinds on colors for e.g. cloth are very uncommon in miniature painting. However, I sometimes see display painters utilizing them for very amazing results.
I've been priming my Space Marines with Light Grey (from Vallejo) and now I understand why it's been such a pain in the ass to get the same orange color from the bottle (Fire Orange from Vallejo) on to the miniature. Thank you.
@@VinceVenturella It did a ton. I want to do Mortarion's wings in bright colors to play up the poison idea and the idea of painting orange had me nervous
Excellent video! Really enjoyed watching it even I had to listen to my 11 year say orange you glad it’s not a video about bananas 100 times after telling her what I was watching . I wonder if others would be as interested as I am about seeing a video about using fluorescent colors to make regular paints pop?
Thanks for this video Vince, orange is my favorite color and I love using it in my armies! Any thoughts on how you might incorporate purple with orange?
I'm starting a Drukhari army and my primary color for the armor is going to be Burnt Orange from Pro Acryl, I love the dark and desaturated nature of that color. Would you recommend that I prime brown and zenithal something like Wraith Bone before I start or because the burnt orange has the blue in it to desaturate it go with Black/White traditional?
If you want more opaque orange, you're pretty much looking at cadmium pigments, just like with yellows and reds. IMO, their toxicity is overhyped, but you definitely don't want to eat or breathe them.
Yes, they are more dangerous than your average miniature pigments for sure, but they really do produce an incredible color as long as you handle with reasonable care.
Hi Vince. I love to use white ink as a undershade, but as you said pure white ink is not be the best for orange. I tested pure white undershade versus an off-white today and the the latter was clearly more vibrant even though the pure white looked a lot brighter before I painted the orange over it. Have you ever mixed up a off white ink? What color(s) did you mix in (or would you mix in)?
Wooo! Love these will you be doing more colour theory videos in the future or do you feel you've covered them enough already? I'm always looking at trying to learn more theory
Hi there Vince, I have a question about painting amber. In relation to the AOS, Realmstone from Ghur, for my megaboss on foot. I wanted to show the bone shoulder pad like it was a piece of this realmstone. I have watched your tutorials on other stones and techniques, but have not found an answer or solution to paint this. In the end i used Seraphim sepia over zenithal highlighing. I would like to know how you would approach an amber on bone effect, as i am looking to improve this feature. If you have covered something like this in a Q & A video please let me know as i have not watched them all so far. Cheers, Nick Drew from Australia.
So that sort of thing is quite difficult, if you are talking about an amber gem, then you are talking about something like making it look like it's transparent. THe challenge here is going to be that we have a strong preconception of what a skull is, and we expect it to look like bone. So you are doing a very complex effect on something that has a strong pre-conception. If I were going to attempt it (and I am not sure I would to be honest), I would have to put something inside the amber, as though it had been trapped there and try to show that over top with glazes and make it look like it was underneath, probably with a reflection line as well.
@@VinceVenturella thanks, that confirmed my suspicion to the skull / gem problem. Thanks for your thoughts on this! Absolutely love your content, keep the good stuff coming!
oh the black primer is blue, that makes sense, i used to do xenothal lighting for orange tau and the color never got how i wanted it to, now i use leadbelcher
Vince - Do you have any recommendations on acrylic painting resources that are not miniature related? Canvas acrylic painting tutorials have so far been the most helpful for me in getting better at miniature painting.
this is fascinating, honestly you could have just done a whole video simply on how the bottle of war colours flourescent orange changed and reflected the ambient light from the other bottles of paint dear god lol transitions galore
No, no feedback, I just always try to be aware. :) - It's easy for me (as a caucasian) to just make that the default "Skin" and make everything else the other, which is incorrect of course just in description, but sometimes those inner hueristics get you even when trying. :)
Is there any color combination that screams 80's more than orange and turquoise/teal? Looking at it on the screen, I immediately flashed to so many fashion combos, album covers and music videos from the early through late middle 80's. I think the only other thing that comes close is florescent pink and black.
In my "What did the Romans ever do for us ..?" moment for the colour orange ... besides "Dwarf beserker red hair highlights, Plaguebearer pants, a slight highlight on a Space marine lense, fire, sunset and maybe rust" what can orange be typically used for in sci-fi / fantasy ?
Highlighting red in general (especially when glazing), lava, sand, plasma coils or other glowey bits (these can be any color), electronic displays, Eldar spirit stones, the list goes on.
Monster skin, Seraphon scales and skin, NMM Copper or bronze, anything autumnal (like Sylvaneth), magical effects. Orange is thin in hue, but I think it has lots of fun uses for sure. :)
When you talk about light and physics, orange and brown are more or less the same color. Brown is dark orange and orange is light brown. That is also why caucasian skin tones use orange, there is still some of the melanin that makes the brown African skin tone.
Hi Vince. I'd like to paint my upcoming necron models in a game of thrones whitewalker theme. blues, light blues, blacks. but I'd also like to retain the metallic feel that necrons have. I thought about starting off with your guide about zenithal highlighting steel but wondering how I can shift it towards that theme. the models will be based in snow as well as have snow flakes scattered on the models themselves.
Well, you could either mix in a little blue paint to the metal, or just lightly glaze some of the blue into it, I have a video on integrating colors into metal here - th-cam.com/video/l9q35BPaBN0/w-d-xo.html
What would be a good ratio of Trollslayer Orange to water for making a nice brush-on glaze to put over a bone/sepia zenithial? I didn't buy it yet, so it could be the Air or the Base version.
Always hard to say, these things don't have exact recipies, the key is to test on the back of your hand or something similar and see if you get a nice filter.
Yeah, trying to paint buddhist monk orange robes now on a mini... its not as easy as I thought it would be, especially when the robes have a lot of folds and creases...
Orange and Turquoise are the reason I moved to oils. There’s just nothing in our hobby paints that compares to the brightness, saturation and vibrancy of cadmium orange or cobalt turquoise.
hey vince, great video! i want to paint my lumineth army in orange and have a blue/green complimentary color, do you think could work and are there any colors you would recommend?
Unrelated to the topic but when highlighting a mini should I stick to the same color for all highlights or change accordingly? Or just stay with warm/cold colors?
The answer is yes. :) - So there are actually multiple schools of thought around this. Many artists use a single highlight color (i.e. all Warm highlights with Ice Yellow or cold highlights with glacier blue. That's certainly valid. You can also use colors more unique to each color (like they could all be warm, but still in the color.). In the end, each tactic will produce a different feeling piece but there is no wrong way.
My tip is that if you want to go a bit wacky with orange, try using dark violet or purple wash as a swadow for orange. I did this with my blood bowl team's wights armour and it worked surprisingly well because of the blue pigment in those colours.
And of course orange has yellow in it, which complementary colour is purple. So, long story short, orange and purple colours like each other a lot 😄
If you're ever looking for a justification for how well orange&purple work together outside of color theory, just go outside and watch the sun set!
Great video, as always - slight historical connection. The orange was first imported to Europe in the late 15th, early16th Century and the word first recorded as having been used in English in 1512. I'm a mine of absolutely useless, irrelevant information... :-)
Sorry, jumped the gun with my historical BS before you self-corrected. I'll just shut up and watch the excellent vid :-)
No issue, yes, I had my fact sheet next to me I was glancing at and switched the dates, but I got it corrected. :)
Orange is not only narrow in our minds in terms of hue position (i.e. it becomes "red" or "yellow" pretty fast as we move around the colour wheel, but also limited in terms of tone (i.e. where terms like "beige" and "brown" are fundamentally used instead).
In fact, I work in gemstones and had to convince a jewellery student who was asking where "brown" (or "dark orange") was on the colour spectrum by getting her to open MS Paint, pick the brightest orange default colour and then pull the tone scale down towards the black end of the spectrum. We simply don't imagine "dark orange" in the way we would, say, "dark blue" or "dark green".
"Pink" is an even bigger mess, as nobody can decide if it is (i) light-toned red, (ii) analogous to Magenta or (iii) both.
You're absolutely right, I can't wait to do the pink episode, it's going to be very interesting.
I like all your content but I have to admit this series of video is my favorite. They are a all real treat. I cannot wait for the next one.
Thank you, these are wonderfully fun to make and I am glad they are well received.
I love these! One of my favourite painting series of all time for sure. I can't wait for Exploring Beige!
I am not sure I will do specifically beige, but it does make me think that I need to split white into Warm and Cold. :)
My favourite series is back. Yay! Coffee in hand and settling back.
Always happy to help.
it was really helpful that you were holding the example frog while explaining. It's much easier to understand while seeing it vs grabbing bottles of paint to see later.
Glad it was helpful. :)
Your exploring colors tutorials have been fantastic! I can't wait to see more, thanks!
More to come! This is a fun series for sure.
The best and finest of hobby cheating videos! Exploring colours are absolutely amazing series! Thank you Vice!
Thank you, always happy to help.
These videos are incredibly useful over and over to me.
Glad to hear it!
Perfect timing with the Teclis Longhorns box releasing today
Yep, total accident, but I love it all the same.
I've always love how much more informed I walk away after watching your hobby cheating videos.vince you make some absolutely stellar educational content. Thank you for all of your time and effort you spend helping to educate us painters that aren't as well versed in some of these artistic elements. Again amazing work and thank you for all of you time. You are a black g to this community
Thank you, always happy to help. :)
Love the information you give. Feels like i am back in school... but in a good way.
This channel is so good i'm glad i found it. I started to paint model and it can a bit overwhelming since there is so much factors that come into consideration. There are lots of other tutorial and such out there but this guy has it: it's always very clear on the point easy to understand as he explains well and show at the the time. Goldmine of info that helps others to improve.
Happy to help! Glad you enjoy the videos. :)
Great vid, I just wish it was around before I painted my halfling pikemen a month or two ago. The struggle was real. I learn so much here! Thank you!
Glad it helped!
Vince: Orange is such a wonderfully interesting unique color
Orange: I bet you say that to all the colors
Listeners: 🤐
Great video dude:)
Nice, always a good time for an orange pun.
Thanks ! I love this serie and I had a big smile on my face when I saw this in my feed....
Glad you enjoyed it! :)
@@VinceVenturella These and your history of videos are my favorite "paint to" content on your channel since this is exactly the kind of nerdy stuff and semi-useless knowledge, that my brain in filled with....
Vince. I want to thank you for taking the time to explain how to work with the different colors. Recently a good friend of mine asked me to paint a figure for him. The figure features a female wearing skin tight electric blue pants with two broad red stripes running down the sides. I was excited to work with such loud colors and also completely lost as to how to make these colors work. I watched your videos on these colors and I'm very happy with my results. I couldn't have done it without your guidance. I'm truly grateful for you sharing your knowledge. I'd like to share pics with you if there is somewhere I can send them... Thanks!
Excellent, happy to help as always. :)
Thank you Vince for your very distinct style of making painting videos. I have yet to find annother creator that shares painting knowledge in such a grounded and detailed way. I espacially like your super focused, detailed in depth videos like this colour series. Keep up :)
You are very welcome
You're exploration of different colors has been super helpful. I have a basic understanding of color theory but you have definitely helped enrich my understandomg of some things
Glad it was helpful! :)
I really wish I saw this before I painted my Tyranids! My orange carapace looked off next to my green skin, and this video helped me understand why.
Well, hopefully it helps for any future orange. :)
Have you bugged my phone? The night before you posted the basing video I said to my friend "I wish one of my favourite miniature painting youtubers had a video about how to stick the minis onto new bases." And the next day the video on your channel went up. As a joke I said into my phone "hey Vince the next video should be an all about colour for Orange" !!!
I have just gone down the miniature painting rabbit hole (that moment when you go from base/shade/highlight and realise there is layering and airbrushing and zenethil and volume sketching and glazing.....) so I've been loving your channel. Thanks for reading my mind!
Awesome, always happy to help and glad when the videos align like that. :)
Your series on exploring colors are great. I like the dive into colors .
Thank you very much! They are fun to do for sure.
I was going to ask if the color or the fruit came first.. As a joke. Then you explain it seriously in the video. You don’t stop surprising me 🙌🏻🙌🏻
That orange over a standard zenithal does zap the pop of the color, but man does it make a nice desaturated base for certain kinds of leather. I remember one time just playing around with my Warcolours by mixing Red 1 (which while technically red pushes as close to orange without being orange as you can) with Black at about a 2:1 or 3:1 ratio, and it made some very interesting brown colors that you just can't get straight from one of the droppers. They were dark yet warm at the same time. Good colors for certain monsters for sure. Looked like something you'd see on some of the more nuanced depictions of the Marvel villain Carnage when the artists weren't using only red and black to color him with just flat super saturated hues.
It's true, you can use the desaturated nature to your advantage, I just wanted to make sure I was clear as I think many people have a challenge with getting the bright warm orange, so I just wanted to make sure. :)
Holy hell I wish I had this video 6 months ago! I've been trying to paint a dragon that is burning from the inside out so all the center points and between the scutes are bright orange and yellow and the more exterior points like the horns and teeth are dark red to black. I fought the orange so hard and now it all makes sense! Thanks Vince
Well, I hope this helps even if it's late. :)
@@VinceVenturella immensely, thanks!
Brilliant video. This series is packed with some much essential information.
Glad it was helpful! :)
Great video! Orange has always been one of my favorites colors ever since my first few Halloweens :)
Mine too!
16:38 excellent! My 300+ collection of paints is justified! ;o) I often have conversations with people who suggest large paint collections are wasted money; I always knew that there are some colours that just cannot be mixed from primaries, even if you use CYM instead of the more traditional RYB
Mikey R Of source you can mix them. It’s just a bit more difficult than most, especially if you don’t have access to single piment paints. That’s not to say there’s not a good reason to have 300+ pots (for one thing, why shouldn’t you?).
Hi @@alfyb4512, that's almost true, but not quite. There are some single pigment colours that you cannot match by mixing two other pigments. You can get close, but not exact. I'm sure there's some science involved, and wavelengths and such like, but some bright oranges and really bright greens are beyond my mixing skills, even when I switch to CMYK.
Yeah, we are limited by the pigments that the people are using (which of course have certain properties and impurities from the pure wavelength, so it can be very difficult to get some specific colors. I am obviously never going to judge for too many paints, paint is awesome. :)
Thank you Vince. I will now be considering how my very dark blue (black) zenithal base will effect the following base colours. Keep the know coming.
Glad it was helpful!
Really cool video!! Enjoyed the historical context and the deep dive into colour theory :)
Glad you enjoyed it!
Even though I don't paint much right now, some colour theory is osmosising in to my brain. I was mixing colours this afternoon, and I realised my appreciation of colours is very different to how it was when I was painting only a year ago.
That's awesome to hear. :)
I am working on a very orange project right now! (A robot from Infinity). This model is sort of the proof of concept for the rest of the army. This video has been VERY helpful!
Awesome, happy to help as always. :)
The paint Orange over Ivory (a warm white) trick saved me time thanks. I use to use white.
The change has significantly reduced the amount of effort coating/fixing sharp edges takes.
Painting a Blitz Bowl Chaos Team. Orange and Turquoise. Going to re-watch the fur videos for the beastmen next.
Awesome, happy to help as always. :)
ooooh I like orange! And yellow. And blue.....is it ok to love just about every frigging color? 😁
It's absolutely OK. :)
Thanks Vince! My love for this series hasn't desaturated. :-)
Just a thought to illustrate the fact that you need to use "orange pigments" to get a poppier orange, instead of mixing red and yellow: since the spectrum for orange is "thin" on the color wheel, it is harder to touch / be close to the "exterior border" of the wheel when mixing, because when you mix you actually move along the segment that joins the points where your starting colors are. Of course at this stage I'd need a drawing... but the triangle between "poppy orange", "poppy red" and "poppy yellow" is more pointy (because of the reduced perception of orange), thus making the orange point further away from the side that joins red and yellow.
Very well said for sure.
Just about to paint the new Squighogs with an orange (which has been my ork armor colour choice) and this really helped me determine how to approach shadows without relying on washes. Hopefully mixing some blue into it will help it look natural
Glad I could help!
Excellent exploration of the color as always!
Have you ever considered making a video about how to use/mix very pastel/heavily tinted colors? (i.e. minty green, very light blue, light violet and so on).
I think these kinds on colors for e.g. cloth are very uncommon in miniature painting. However, I sometimes see display painters utilizing them for very amazing results.
It's a good idea, I will add it to the list. :)
Yooo these are so good. Great job sir. Time for me to binge the rest I haven’t seen yet lol.
Glad you like them!
I never realized there was so much history behind each color. Are you planing on making more of these videos?
There is a whole playlist. :) - BUt yes, I will make more.
My favorite series is your exploring colors!
Thank you, I really enjoy these.
i really like vermillion and cyan on crisis suits, the metal parts of the suit reflect light from the thrusters
I've been priming my Space Marines with Light Grey (from Vallejo) and now I understand why it's been such a pain in the ass to get the same orange color from the bottle (Fire Orange from Vallejo) on to the miniature. Thank you.
Happy to help as always. :)
Thanks Vince for such interesting guides!!!!!
Glad you like them!
Perfect timing! I was gonna paint my lumineth realm lords with rusty armor and I know what other colors to make my scheme in.
Excellent, always happy to help.
This is excellent info! Thanks so much for such a great tutorial!
Glad it was helpful!
great video! looking forward for Exploring Colors - white , since I am struggling to get my white scars look good :D
That one will be fun, while you're waiting, I do have this video, which should help - th-cam.com/video/d0wWzjluaxM/w-d-xo.html
So that's why I'm having dull orange. THANK YOU!
Always happy to help. :)
Def more of these please!
More are coming.
Great video and a fantastic series!
Glad you like them!
This is a really helpful vid. Thanks big time.
Glad it helped!
@@VinceVenturella It did a ton. I want to do Mortarion's wings in bright colors to play up the poison idea and the idea of painting orange had me nervous
Another great video, thanks Vince!
Glad you enjoyed it! :)
Can confirm, that is indeed one of the old plastic Empire Spearmen. Circa 90's/early 2000's.
They seem to be getting hard to find these days honestly.
Yeah, I still have a lot of that older stuff around. :)
Excellent video! Really enjoyed watching it even I had to listen to my 11 year say orange you glad it’s not a video about bananas 100 times after telling her what I was watching . I wonder if others would be as interested as I am about seeing a video about using fluorescent colors to make regular paints pop?
I'll add it to the list, I love Fluoro paints. :) While you wait, I do have this, which covers some of that - th-cam.com/video/CNj82oNv6jM/w-d-xo.html
Really enjoyed this one - a lot I hadn't thought about. You missed magenta as a shading colour for orange - it is my favourite ^%
Good call, I can't wait to do a whole episode on Magenta.
Thanks for this video Vince, orange is my favorite color and I love using it in my armies! Any thoughts on how you might incorporate purple with orange?
I think it works very well with purple if you also incorporate some turquoise/teal. That triad works very nicely with Purple as the pop color.
I think the spearman is from the WHFB 6th edition box set, so... 20 years ago. I'll just go drink and feel really old now.
Well, I have him (and got him when he came out) so I am right there with you. ;)
Thank you for the video!!!
My pleasure!
I'm starting a Drukhari army and my primary color for the armor is going to be Burnt Orange from Pro Acryl, I love the dark and desaturated nature of that color. Would you recommend that I prime brown and zenithal something like Wraith Bone before I start or because the burnt orange has the blue in it to desaturate it go with Black/White traditional?
Absolutely.
If you want more opaque orange, you're pretty much looking at cadmium pigments, just like with yellows and reds. IMO, their toxicity is overhyped, but you definitely don't want to eat or breathe them.
Yes, they are more dangerous than your average miniature pigments for sure, but they really do produce an incredible color as long as you handle with reasonable care.
Fantastic vid
Thank you, very much appreciated.
Incredibly interesting and useful. Any other good flourescent oranges out there? Cant seem to get warcolour here.
Vallejo is okay, Scale 75 FX, the new AK Interactive 3rd Gen Acrylic
Hi Vince. I love to use white ink as a undershade, but as you said pure white ink is not be the best for orange. I tested pure white undershade versus an off-white today and the the latter was clearly more vibrant even though the pure white looked a lot brighter before I painted the orange over it.
Have you ever mixed up a off white ink? What color(s) did you mix in (or would you mix in)?
Sure, in general, you would integrate a little yellow and a little brown, that will get you a more warm, ivory color.
Wooo! Love these will you be doing more colour theory videos in the future or do you feel you've covered them enough already? I'm always looking at trying to learn more theory
Oh, there are always more, we aren't going to stop until we cover basically everything in a standard set of "hues" plus white and black.
Vince should have said “we’re all used to seeing the colour orange in Rust when we see a Ford”.
Thanks for a great video 👍
Glad you enjoyed it
Hi there Vince, I have a question about painting amber. In relation to the AOS, Realmstone from Ghur, for my megaboss on foot.
I wanted to show the bone shoulder pad like it was a piece of this realmstone. I have watched your tutorials on other stones and techniques, but
have not found an answer or solution to paint this. In the end i used Seraphim sepia over zenithal highlighing. I would like to know how you would approach
an amber on bone effect, as i am looking to improve this feature. If you have covered something like this in a Q & A video please let me know as i have not
watched them all so far. Cheers, Nick Drew from Australia.
So that sort of thing is quite difficult, if you are talking about an amber gem, then you are talking about something like making it look like it's transparent. THe challenge here is going to be that we have a strong preconception of what a skull is, and we expect it to look like bone. So you are doing a very complex effect on something that has a strong pre-conception. If I were going to attempt it (and I am not sure I would to be honest), I would have to put something inside the amber, as though it had been trapped there and try to show that over top with glazes and make it look like it was underneath, probably with a reflection line as well.
@@VinceVenturella thanks, that confirmed my suspicion to the skull / gem problem. Thanks for your thoughts on this! Absolutely love your content, keep the good stuff coming!
oh the black primer is blue, that makes sense, i used to do xenothal lighting for orange tau and the color never got how i wanted it to, now i use leadbelcher
Top quality content, I have learnt a lot from this video and you have a new subscriber
Fantastic, glad to have you along on the hobby journey and always happy to help. :)
Vince - Do you have any recommendations on acrylic painting resources that are not miniature related? Canvas acrylic painting tutorials have so far been the most helpful for me in getting better at miniature painting.
I don't have any specific channels I watch regularly, but there are many I watch, more for just incidental techniques or just entertainment.
Woohoo! Exploding orange!
This one is fun for sure.
this is fascinating, honestly you could have just done a whole video simply on how the bottle of war colours flourescent orange changed and reflected the ambient light from the other bottles of paint dear god lol transitions galore
That Warcolours Fluoro orange is wonderful.
Great video
Glad you enjoyed it
I noted the lack of "Caucasian" when you were doing the giants skin with oils, guessing you got some feedback on it?! Love orange on figs.
Oy gevalt!
No, no feedback, I just always try to be aware. :) - It's easy for me (as a caucasian) to just make that the default "Skin" and make everything else the other, which is incorrect of course just in description, but sometimes those inner hueristics get you even when trying. :)
Is there any color combination that screams 80's more than orange and turquoise/teal? Looking at it on the screen, I immediately flashed to so many fashion combos, album covers and music videos from the early through late middle 80's. I think the only other thing that comes close is florescent pink and black.
Yeah, the Pink/Electric Blue/Purple is the MOST 80s to me, but this is close behind. :)
Thanks again
Always welcome
In my "What did the Romans ever do for us ..?" moment for the colour orange ... besides "Dwarf beserker red hair highlights, Plaguebearer pants, a slight highlight on a Space marine lense, fire, sunset and maybe rust" what can orange be typically used for in sci-fi / fantasy ?
Highlighting red in general (especially when glazing), lava, sand, plasma coils or other glowey bits (these can be any color), electronic displays, Eldar spirit stones, the list goes on.
Monster skin, Seraphon scales and skin, NMM Copper or bronze, anything autumnal (like Sylvaneth), magical effects. Orange is thin in hue, but I think it has lots of fun uses for sure. :)
You thought it was Black, but it was actually me! Blue!
Dun, Dun DUN!!!! ;)
When you talk about light and physics, orange and brown are more or less the same color. Brown is dark orange and orange is light brown. That is also why caucasian skin tones use orange, there is still some of the melanin that makes the brown African skin tone.
I'll have a video coming soon on brown. :)
Hi Vince. I'd like to paint my upcoming necron models in a game of thrones whitewalker theme. blues, light blues, blacks. but I'd also like to retain the metallic feel that necrons have. I thought about starting off with your guide about zenithal highlighting steel but wondering how I can shift it towards that theme. the models will be based in snow as well as have snow flakes scattered on the models themselves.
Well, you could either mix in a little blue paint to the metal, or just lightly glaze some of the blue into it, I have a video on integrating colors into metal here - th-cam.com/video/l9q35BPaBN0/w-d-xo.html
What would be a good ratio of Trollslayer Orange to water for making a nice brush-on glaze to put over a bone/sepia zenithial? I didn't buy it yet, so it could be the Air or the Base version.
Always hard to say, these things don't have exact recipies, the key is to test on the back of your hand or something similar and see if you get a nice filter.
Yeah, trying to paint buddhist monk orange robes now on a mini... its not as easy as I thought it would be, especially when the robes have a lot of folds and creases...
Yeah, it's very tricky, hope this all helps.
Orange and Turquoise are the reason I moved to oils. There’s just nothing in our hobby paints that compares to the brightness, saturation and vibrancy of cadmium orange or cobalt turquoise.
THey are so truly wonderful and vibrant.
hey vince, great video! i want to paint my lumineth army in orange and have a blue/green complimentary color, do you think could work and are there any colors you would recommend?
I think it would be killer, beyond that, you likely just want some neutral tones like creamy white and black.
Speaking of blue green, what's your recommendation for creating highlight colors of it?
In general, I find adding some kind of verdigris is your natural cold highlight or ice yellow for your warmer highlight.
Very useful painting series! Thank you.
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Glad you enjoyed it! :)
What size dropper bottles are those that you’ve transferred the GW paints into?
30ml, got them from ebay.
Vince Venturella Do they comfortably fit 2 GW pots?
i live in ireland, ppl here are orange with some sun exposure.
Wishi could send you a picture to get feed back on how i shaded it. I am having a hard time with orange
Well, join the PMP on facebook, it's my hobby community and a great place to get feedback from lots of folks.
@@VinceVenturella thank you so much for replying so fast WOW.
How did you get the Citadel oranges into the dropper bottles?
Carefully. :) - In all seriousness, flow improver and pipettes and patience.
Unrelated to the topic but when highlighting a mini should I stick to the same color for all highlights or change accordingly? Or just stay with warm/cold colors?
The answer is yes. :) - So there are actually multiple schools of thought around this. Many artists use a single highlight color (i.e. all Warm highlights with Ice Yellow or cold highlights with glacier blue. That's certainly valid. You can also use colors more unique to each color (like they could all be warm, but still in the color.). In the end, each tactic will produce a different feeling piece but there is no wrong way.
@@VinceVenturella you're awesome man. Thank you and thanks for all the work you do for the community.
I wish us found this before I started paint an orange themed space marine squad
Well, at least you have it for any future space marine work. :)
Oragnie!
Does anyone still have ‘blood angel red’ from 2ed time. And fiery orange too.. as far a gw paints go they were really nice to work with as glazes.
Sadly, all my old GW paints long ago died due to my own miscare.
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um actually you
Darn it! ;)
Blue to shade! 🤦Why didn't I think of that?
Always happy to help. :)