Hobby Cheating 260 - Exploring Colors - Yellow
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ก.ย. 2020
- In this Hobby Cheating Tutorial, I take you through the color yellow. It's a bright and often difficult color to paint, but it can be so valueable and easy when used correctly. Hope you enjoy!
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Watching a Vince Venturella video always makes me feel like part of a secret elite cult. Hidden in plain sight only 'those who can see truly' recognize its worth : seems like out of seven billion people only some thousands know how quality content looks like.
After following Vince for such a long time he still keeps on uploading new and interesting tutorials.
Thank you, I am glad to hear they are so helpful still. :)
i realize I am kinda off topic but does anyone know of a good site to watch newly released tv shows online?
@Jay Alvin i use Flixzone. You can find it on google :)
I've only watched one video and I'm already part of the Yellow Stonecutters - I think I'm ready to attack Iyanden now
You just saved my life... 3 month in the hobby and I´m right now working on a gold NMM but was struggling so bad with the yellow coverage on my black primer that I was almost in tears. This is exactly the kind of explanition I was looking for! I was not leaving a comment on this vid cause it´s 2 years old and maybe you have already forgotten about it but I´m so happy right now I guess it´s the right thing to thank you. I´m gonna prime back the mess I´ve done on the mini, make a good mid tone brown as undercoat and enjoy again my painting sesions!
I love these color videos. It shows me that I paint way to safe when it comes to color combinations and mixes. These videos show me that I'm holding back my own potential when it comes to painting my miniatures and I want to thank you for showing me that 😀
I'm so glad!
I’m sure someone else has said this, if you want to sell your house, paint it yellow. Sell it faster and for a better price. Use a complementary colour at the proper percentage, perhaps even faster(could probably sell a crack house with a fresh yellow paint job with a cool blue trim). I worked in the mines for years and everything large and dangerous is painted yellow for a reason. Humans instantly take notice and pay attention to it over all other colours. Hence hazard stripes.
This has been so good for learning how to get the yellow I want, everytime I mess up I come back with another question that gets answered with a rewatch.
These colour vids are amazing Vince, thanks so much.
Happy to help!
This may be the single most useful video, in one of the most useful series on painting, in the hobby. Major 'aha' moment.
Glad it was helpful!
I don't like yellow, but I actually found this to be the most interesting video on exploring colors so far. Never would have guessed that flesh tones would make a great undertone to make the yellow pop. Thanks a lot for the info!
Glad it was helpful!
How about a video about painting miniatures that look like they're out at night? - kind of a follow up to a part of a subject you talked avout with Sam iirc?
A series exploring times of day in general would be cool now that I think about, but especially what setting the feeling of night / out in moonlight would be great!
This is definitely something on the menu for the future. :)
@@VinceVenturella Have you made it?
@@Quisiio0303456 I made something close - th-cam.com/video/Bb7AJQheUWw/w-d-xo.html
So much time I lost trying to paint yellow on black primer... So much pain :) Thank you very much! I ordered colors you showed and can't wait to try them asap!
Yellow is also a great colour to use at 2-10mm painting. Because it contrasts really well with almost anything darker you get great definition of it and it is a great way of adding some pop or visual interest to smaller figures that have fewer details overall. Redcoats with yellow cuffs and collars for example. An Imperial Fists army tends to look better at 6mm than a Ravenguard army will due to the greater visual interest and differentiation against the base (which is a greater %age of the models surface area when they're small like that).
Yes, the way it distinguishes and grabs attention is just really valuable.
Love the look of deep, rich warm yellow Imperial Fists. I got an ok result but it took me too many layers to get them done to want to do an army of them. If only I had known your tricks first!
Well, there are always more imperial fists to paint. :)
Man I love this series! I keep coming back again and again, especially for yellow!
Glad you enjoy it!
Again a great video in my favourite series of yours! I am happy that I've discovered some of the tricks by trying to make a BB team in the colors of the 80s LA Kings, but i realised that I did not even started to scratch the top of the tool box to get nice vibrant yellow. Thanks Vince!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thank you very much Vince. This was another very enlightening video. I struggle with yellow so much, that I decided to never paint it again until I watched your video. Imperial fists is my favorite chapter, and I tried many paint ranges to find a good yellow until I recently gave up. I hope you continue to explore colors, these videos are my favorites. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful and they will certainly continue. :)
Now I know why my yellow colors always need not 2 but 20 layers before they look anything close to what I want, thanks Vince
Awesome, happy to help. :)
Thank you sooooo much! I'm new to TCG alters and miniature paint, and I was struggling about white and yellow for sure! This is driving me nuts, searching the whole YTB about a nice yellow coverage (even already playing with Vallejos). You saved me some bucks, spending in paints that is really expensive for me (I live in Brazil and everything here cost 5x) just to try if it will have a reasonable opacity. THIS IS really a hobby cheating! ♥
Excellent video, many thanks Vince!
Glad you liked it! :)
I've been using that yellow + purple mix for shading skin tones. Can't quite explain why it works, but it does!
Awesome, happy to help as always. :)
Always love the color exploration videos!
More to come! Now we are getting to the weird colors.
Thanks for continuing to share your experience.
Always! :)
I have to stop the video to thank you for this clear explanation. Ive never seen covered this topic with ducha depth but still very easy to follow. Second, Ive just started my ImperialFists too and that vid is godsend.
Thank you again
Glad it was helpful!
Its like you're in my head...working an Escher gang and was having issues with my yellows...no longer! Thank you for a very timely video!
Glad I could help!
this was soo helpful, thank you so much Vince!
Glad it was helpful! :)
Once again, a great tutorial, thanks! I like the color yellow, but had the same results that you illustrated in the video with using the basic zenithal highlight...sickly greenish yellow. This made me back away from using yellow as a base color for my figs. This video has solved the problem, much thanks for that.
Glad it was helpful!
Your content is, as always, a gold mine!
Glad you enjoy it! :)
Ok...
It's the second time I watched all your Exploring color (so far) in less than 2 days.
It's , I think , the best series I see on miniatures painting for a while.
I have taking note this time, so I don't need to watch it 10 times more to learn and I really hope to see new exploring color often.
I'm Kind of curious about Black (not for the higlight but the shadows.
White and how to proprely highlight (if possible).
True Metalic Metal and True Metalic Gold...
Blue green and so and so...
Thanks for these video.
More colors will be coming soon. :)
Always seem to have problems with yellows. Thanks for all you do Vince.
Always happy to help. :)
I always learn something from these color videos.
Glad you like them! :)
Yellow time! hope it can excite me over yellow as the brown did ! :D
Just so you know I really look forward to these videos every weekend
Awesome to hear and always happy to help.
Thanks Vince! I never would have thought of using skin tones for yellow.
Glad it was helpful. :)
Thank you Vince, really appreciate the video!
Glad it was helpful!
This is by far my favourite hobby cheating series
I really enjoy these videos for sure. :)
Quality content Vince. Cant wait to try it out.
Always happy to help. :)
Thank you very much for educational videos! I have also seen a vid (if i remember correctly - it was at goobertown hobbies), where pink with a white zenithal was the undercoat.
And after a yellow layer it created a really nice tone. It was as mindblowing - like your suggestion to use (very thin) purple :D
Yep, pink works excellent for yellow as well for the same reasons skin tone work well, caucasuan skin tone is basically a red-leaning orange with white mixed in (i.e. in the pink range) so very similar effect. :)
Amazing video! I was having trouble doing orange base coats for yellow so this helps a bunch
Glad I could help!
Sunlight is actually slightly blue once it has passed through our atmosphere and reaches everything down below, because of rayleigh scattering.
Our eyes have a natural white-balance (like in photography) which dulls down the excessive blueness in the world around us, and enhances reds and greens (and thereby yellows and colors in between).
Evenings and mornings, light reaches us by passing through the atmosphere at an angle, and thereby scatters into the yellow-orange-red range, because of the extra air and particulates that it must move through.
Yep, light is fascinaing how it works in the world for sure. :)
Super informative as always thanks for the vid I’m painting a 100 kingdoms army in the style of the Holy Roman Empire and I’ve never used yellow before so this is really helpful
That Ice Yellow and Pale Yellow from AK are just too good. It's perfect for a muted yellow on grimdark styled paintjobs.
I used it on my King in Yellow from the Cthulhu Boardgame and on a Belisarius Cawl, where I then continued with the Streaking Grime technique, which feeds into the whole play of yellow with orangy-brown shadows. So Pale yellow base, Ice Yellow Highlight and then brown tones as shadowing.
Their robes pop so much, without looking neon
Yep, I've really been enjoying the color for sure.
LOVE this series. Always excited when a new one comes out. What about looking at CMYK primaries like Cyan and Magenta? I’ve fallen in love with magenta recently for whatever reason. Thanks again for all the great content!
CMKY is a subtractive colour based system while RGB is an additive system. In print media you have a white page which represents all spectrums of colour combined, the light reflects off this layer and then is filtered by the layers of ink on the page and hit your eyeball registering only the spectrums that were not filtered out. Super interesting colour theory and definitely worth talking about especially as we use a lot of inks and layering glazes that bare a lot of resemblance to print media sometimes.
We are definitely going to touch on Magenta at some point, it's a very interesting color with incresible versatility.
Purple is such a great color...
Agreed, very multi-faceted. :)
This really did pass muster (ok, I'll show myself out now).
I had horrible problems with yellow, painting the yellow sections from old Blood Angels helmets and other parts over red. Or making a horrible mess by putting thick coats trying to cover whatever is underneath.
I found the hard way the importance of the undercoat, but this was a totally different level of understanding.by using skin and light browns. That really makes sense but it never occurred to me (not an artist by any measure) and that would explain why most of my yellow models look bilious. I did find the purple combination doing some patzing around with those Blood Angels shadows, but didn't find a way to make it work!
Puns are always welcome here, heck, they are encouraged. I relish them. ;)
Thank you for this video Vince! I wish Pro Acryl was sold in Australia, really want to try it out.
yeah, the same, was going to order from US/Canada/UK but even then sets are sold out, and u dont want to buy individually with shipping costs to here
I am sure Jason is working on getting the shipping to interantional locations worked out as we speak. :)
You just need a good pigmented Ocre....I hit the jackpot with mine, it is a big pot from the dollar store....
Fantastic video Vince! They always open doors that I didn't even know existed. Shading yellow with purple? Well yeah look at the color wheel! Damn, I want to paint my imperial guards a bright lemon yellow now. Must... resist....
Resistance is futile. :)
I've always considered doing a "good" yellow to be the hardest color to teach someone how to do. This really makes it easy hah. Great vid as usual.
Awesome, happy to help as always. :)
Great video,and about finishing the "yellow touched" with the yellow cadmium oil paint range ,it could be nice too..😉
Finishing with the oil paints is always a nice touch. :)
Ok this is strange. When you did a episode on white, I had just started painting a white space marine (mortifactor). Now you drop a yellow & I'm currently in the process of painting an Imperial Fist space marine.
Works out though! Thanks!
Right on time. :)
Who would have thought Vince could teach me the importance of color better and faster than my college professor?
Thank you, always happy to help. :)
That's an awesome video! I'll those tips on my Space Wolves yellow bits. I usually started from VGC Opaque Heavy Bluegrey, but it was usually off. Also idea with shading, I'll switch to brown-ish shades! I've given nadiral glaze to my SW dude and it got on his yellow shoulderpad, I have to say that it also works, when it's a thin glaze. Thank you!
ALways happy to help. :)
I painted an Imperial Fists lieutenant as an experiment and while it didn't work out that well, I did try Liquitex's muted violet ink to black-line the armour and create some shadow areas, and it really made the yellow pop.
Hopefully this helps. :)
You're killing me Vincent! Last week I'd just finished a bunch of heavily armoured Orcs before the Steel vid, and this week I've just finished a gang of yellow armoured Palanite Enforcers.
I seem to be a week behind. :)
@@VinceVenturella At least I'm getting a few things done though for a change... Still very isolate-y down here in Melbourne.
That is an awesome video. I love it :D
Thank you very much! :)
Thank you for the video!!!
My pleasure!
Another awesome video
Glad you enjoyed it
Today I learned a lot
I also learned that Vince has excellent taste in space marine chapters
I mean, they are the best. ;)
Painting a yellow version of the delta 7 from Star Wars for a local painting comp (you can Google: "star wars yellow delta 7 " if you want to have a peak what it looks like). Looking for some pointers of how to go about that. Maybe airbrushing the yellow and brush painting the grey makes more sense compared to the other way around? Also planning on doing a very bright side (right side of the ship) to a very dark side, as if he flies close to a nearby sun. So the "zenithal" highlight is rotated ~90 degrees.
Yeah, I think the yellow airbrush and grey brush would good unless you wanted to go all for masking.
I promised myself I’d never willingly paint yellow again, getting too old for this s**t. Just when I thought I was out, you pulled me back in...great video!
You can do it! :)
I hear Clan Eshin makes their initiates wear that color while assassinating an elf as their final test.
Gotta earn your poison stars. :)
Thanks for the video, super informative and interesting! I'm painting up a dark blue Space Wolves army with yellow pauldrons right now. For the pauldrons I've been using a flat brown to undercoat, then orange (i know, i know) to glaze a shade on. Would you recommend going with your purple suggestion instead or might that just fade into the dark blue and therefore take away that 'pop' that people look for in minis. Thanks!
Honestly, I think either can work fine. My best advice is give it a try, if you don't like it, easy enough to change, if you do like it, that's a cool discovery. :)
Aha, thank you. That explains some things!
Happy to help!
Easy yellow:
Prime Duplicoat sandible red/rust
Duplicoat sandible white top down
Where the speckling is spray/paint tentacle pink.
Pick your yellow golden or mid tone yellow. Done. Add more yellows if you want for depth.
I’m not the first to say it but the best under coat for yellow is pink.
Yes, this is why I like flesh tone, as most caucasian flesh tones are variances of pink (being Red leaning orange mixed with white). :)
Can you do a complex skin tone tutorial? I stick to the GW trimverate of colors Cadian/Kislev/Bugman. Can you help with some of the pinker tones from Valejo? Rosey, Elf Flesh, etc. I can’t seem to find a the key to making them look good, they always come out to warm. I want to use them to add some variance in skin tones to my armies.
My personal recipe for yellow:
Start with base of ochre or pink. Paint a base of yellow, it'll look chalky and that's fine. Then, apply two coats of scale 75 yellow mixed with Vallejo glaze medium. You'll have a very glossy yellow base. Paint a coat of yellow over that to dull it down. Then, highlight with ice yellow and shade with ochre or purple.
The resulting yellow is eye-piercing bright and clean. Big issue with this is that it's a lot of layers and it will cover detail, so it's best only with large surfaces. I'd never do this for a face.
Yeah, hopefully this can cut down the layers some. :)
Love the Gilmore Girls Reference
Absolutely!
I LOVE this series! I'm going to make an Instagram account just to like your Dutchess post.
Go for it! ;) - Glad you're enjoying it.,
It's also interesting how the coldest yellow can still be a warm off-white compared to a regular white.
Absolutely true.
Brilliant!
Thank you, glad it was helpful. :)
Yo Vince, I was wondering if you plan to take a dive into grays. I know its a bit of a gray area as far as interesting colors, but, I've been working alot with grays recently and was wondering if you had found any neat tricks and tips concerning gray. Thank you and keep up the amazing work, love the videos.
I like using Chestnut Ink fro S75 for pre shading my Imperial Fists, and Screamer Pink for my Orange/Yellows lol
Great undershading colors for me. :)
We need a magenta/pink color guide!
Oh, we will have that one soon for sure. :)
@@VinceVenturella Yeah since we all know that you love your pink....
Man I know what you mean about wanting to do a yellow skaven army now lol
Never even thought of it but it looks good
Yeah, that yellow really pops on those robes.
Have been real tempted to put together an Imperial Fist army and this video is feeding that temptation. BEGONE AGENT OF SLAANESH! I am weak and can't hold out. ;)
There is no reason to resist. ;)
Great video as usual! Quick unrelated question though, would you zenithal highlight a model you would primarily be painting black and metalic?
It would depend how much metallic. If we are talking about a little bit, the answer would be yes, because I would use glazes to bring the zenithal highlight back down and create a natural highlight.
Vince Vince Vince... you havent tried the Warcolours one coat yellow?? Hands down best coverage i've ever come across. i keep referring to it as the holy grail.
I do have some, I thought it was nice, but the undershade still matters. :)
Thanks Vince for another fascinating exploration of colour. I’m now wondering about the colour ivory, is it a yellow, a brown or white (or combination)? Useful to understand in the context of how the colour interacts with the under-shade. From my experience the same rules as yellow seem to apply.
It’s a white for painting purposes, a yellow for true color, but you can ignore it in composition.
Gotta say, I really dislike yellow, but those minis looked really good with that color scheme, now I have to try it. Great video.
Glad it was helpful. :)
all those reallys... I thought I was having a police academy flashback :D
I really need to watch my verbal ticks. :)
@@VinceVenturella If you were to do that, you wouldn't be Vince...
@@NarcolepticLTD You've got me on that one. :)
Awesome video! I have some ideas to work with now!
Could you do a video about green?
Already done, in the same playlist. :) - th-cam.com/video/1utsyhYs8HM/w-d-xo.html
Nice video. How would you paint a night ambiance maybe even with a secondary light source like a campfire?
It's a very complicated thing, as you have to shift into a two light source dominated scene. Marco NJM actually has a nice video with the fundementals of it. You can see it on his channel here - th-cam.com/video/c48UiPSBfcg/w-d-xo.html
Also because of you I've begun to say "mmmmkay " again
I apologize, it's something I don't even consciously do. :)
Hey Vince, great video as per usual. two things: 1. Scott mentioned on the podcast you introduced him to Contrapoints, so gold star for you! 2. Is there US supplier I can order the Warcolours Florescent Layer Paint sry? Amazon isn’t caring it and I can’t find it on ebay or locally either. I suppose i can just buy the single bottles of vallejo’s fluorescent range.
1) It's an amazing channel and everyone should be watching her. :) 2) Warcolours is only available directly from them, it's all sourced from a simple mom & pop operation in cyprus.
Great, thanks for the info!
Very interesting. Did you do a video on brown tones ?
Not yet, but I certainly plan to in the future.
Awesome. :)
Thank you! Cheers!
Do you have any advice on highlighting sharp colour transitions on flat/smooth surfaces? I want to paint up some Space Marines using one of the retro halved/quartered colour schemes (like medieval heraldry), where they're split cleanly down the middle, but I'm worried about how to colour match my shades and highlights to make it look right, plus difficulties with getting even highlight thickness across the transition.
So creating a unified undershade through a zenithal is a strong way to go. The other idea is use the same highlight and shadow colors on both. It seems like that would be difficult, but something like Ice Yellow or Glacier Blue can easily work for many colors as a highlight color.
Man I wish I had this before I painted a yellow nurgle army lol
Right on time. ;)
So for the record, how many levels of “Really” do I use to thin my purple for shadows ? Lol great video as always, thanks !
I think the exact amount is 4 levels of Really. :)
How do you think Bugmans Glow would do as a base coat for yellow? I guess I could just try it, but i'm sure you already have the answer ;)
It would be wonderful for your lower to mid tones, perfect base tone (you still need a highlight in the zenithal).
So after this i guess you will go into tertiary colours? would like to see a video on magenta/red purple if possible.
Oh, we are getting to the fun colors now. :)
Hey Vince, I'm in your neck of the woods and was wondering where you get most of your hobby supplies, such as your paints. Are their local stores you prefer or a website you usually use? I love trying new brands out but the stores I know of only carry citadel, army painter, and one kind of Vallejo at the GT, maybe p3 at the soldiery. Thanks ahead of time.
Usually Michigan Toy Soldier or COmpetition Minis (ordering on-line in both cases).
@@VinceVenturella Fantastic, thank you for taking the time to reply. Have a great weekend.
Just when I thought I had talked myself out of starting an Ironjawz army....
There is always good reasons to go Jawz. ;)
I just tried my first Imperial Fist and it came out green, so I wanted to ask you, considering I followed your guide basically (primed black, red/brown basecoat, then yellow and highlight with pale yellow) where that green came from.
Did I leave too much black shining through somewhere maybe and that can cause it?
Sounds like there was still some black there, if you have pure brown to ivory, then you should have a clean warm yellow.
Chevrons on Imperial Fists? Heresy!
I'm sure I am always getting something wrong. This is why I hate space marines. ;)
Hey Vince,
Do you by chance have a video that shows how to do natural weathering on like rocks and such?
I'm starting some gloomspite and the loonshrine in pictures has moss buildup in its cracks and crevices and in not sure how to achieve that.
I certainly do - th-cam.com/video/j6qFi5CUjwE/w-d-xo.html
@@VinceVenturella thanks!
Have you experimented much with using magenta as your shade color instead of an orange rusty brown? If so, for what kind of situations do you like that option over the brown?
Yes actually, generally if I want something more vibrant honestly. I like the the rust more for things that are earthier or worn.
Yellow over Magenta a really great color too.
Absolutely, magenta and yellow are wonderful together.
Is that Imperial Fist mini you showed here done the same way as the one in your 2019 video about painting imperial fist yellow (contrast yellow through airbrush), or did you change your workflow?
Oh, I am sure I changed it some, i never paint anything the same way twice (even often when doing an army). ;)
@@VinceVenturella haha, just trying to figure out if I have to start getting contrast colors.
I already have too many colors and material as it is, but lately more and more contrast 'cheats' start to pop up, like for leather, bones and black.
It's sad to me that I either have to airbrush to get a true zenithal, use inks which results in less saturation/vibrancy, or layer and layer over the zenithal prime until it's effect is almost gone or gone
SO I'll say that's not always the case. You could always prime in a straight mid-brown, dry brush ivory in a downward angle, and then your yellow should go over the top just as easily.
What are your thoughts on using pink as the undertone for yellow? I have seen numerous hobby painter videos that go over this option, and was surprised to not see you bring up this subject.
Absolutely doable and great.
What sort of brush would you recommend as an “all-around” solid brush? One that I could use for most base coating and layering.
Search it, he made like 3 vids on this...
If you've never owned an airbrush, buy something cheap, like a master airbrush kit from amazon. Learn from it, beat it up, break it. Now, if you are looking for a second airbrush, my preference is the Iwata HP-CS.
Vince Venturella thanks!
“Cut the mustard” lol...
The puns can't be stopped.
Luckily cutting the cheese wasn't in action lol
You’re a fist player too!?!? Hell yea
The best of course.
Hi Vince, which ice yellow do you like more, the one from Vallejo or the one from AK 3rd gen? If you like third option better, let me know.
I like the AK one slightly better.