Oh no! Does Phantasy Star 3 SUCK!?!?

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    "Unravel the divisive legacy of Phantasy Star 3 in my candid review. While some may appreciate its branching narrative and generational storytelling, others find it lacking compared to its predecessors. With dated graphics and gameplay, this entry may not resonate with everyone. A nostalgic trip for series fans but falls short for newcomers."
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ความคิดเห็น • 204

  • @malkavthemad4249
    @malkavthemad4249 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    It doesn't suck as much as living in Memphis, TN.

    • @Luchiop
      @Luchiop ปีที่แล้ว +5

      try Argentina, not fun here haha

    • @ZacHawkins42
      @ZacHawkins42 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Howdy, neighbor. North of ATL, GA here, where the cops will ruin your life over a single roach.

    • @malkavthemad4249
      @malkavthemad4249 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ZacHawkins42 I literally had a drug dealer light up my apartment with handgun fire, and most people in my inner circle have been robbed, my dad being beaten with a golf club in a robbery.

    • @ZacHawkins42
      @ZacHawkins42 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@malkavthemad4249 I hope you and yours have considered, or do now, carry a handgun for self-defense. Good luck out there 🤞

    • @malkavthemad4249
      @malkavthemad4249 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ZacHawkins42 Already do. Pretty much all of my family does.

  • @CeramicShot
    @CeramicShot ปีที่แล้ว +20

    3:30 If you're the type of person who married Lena first instead of Maia, do you really have any business reviewing or even commenting on this game, though?

    • @truehare
      @truehare 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      To be fair, I did the same... Because I wanted to take the wrong option out of the way first and save the best for last, of course.

    • @CeramicShot
      @CeramicShot 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@truehare You know what, that's actually forgivable. Thank you - this has been a teaching moment for me.

  • @zersch.
    @zersch. 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    It's always 1000 years because that's how long it takes the Profound Darkness to come back in each game.

    • @donstarlancer
      @donstarlancer 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I think he’s speaking of a lot of media from the time in general actually

  • @otakubullfrog1665
    @otakubullfrog1665 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    I had a friend who had a Genesis before I had an SNES and this happened to be the first 16-bit RPG I ever played. I thought the music and visuals were great and I really enjoyed the synthesis of medieval fantasy and technology (which the Final Fantasy games would also lean into, so clearly they were onto something). This one will always have a place in my heart, so I can't really rate it objectively.

  • @DezorianGuy
    @DezorianGuy ปีที่แล้ว +27

    The soundtrack had some of the catchiest tunes ever. Thats a good thing about it I'd say. 👍🏻

    • @GTSN38
      @GTSN38 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I have to turn off the sound because it's so annoying. The soundtrack sucks ass

  • @FreakyLynx
    @FreakyLynx ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Your comment regarding Laya’s appearance remaining the same, don’t forget that it’s explained in the game. After being rejected for marriage she’s depressed and decides to go back into suspended animation… so of course she doesn’t change physically (or even mentally). They could have done more with the concept but it’s not a mistake tgat she doesn’t age.

    • @colefitzpatrick8431
      @colefitzpatrick8431 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This seems more like a workaround to allow the devs the laziness of not changing her, or even removing her, than a silver lining or a saving grace

  • @charlene2400
    @charlene2400 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I've always said 4, was the best game, but my fave to play, was 3.I've gotten all 4 endings. There is a difference for the 3rd gen character. You can have 4 potential grandkids, two will have roughly the same strength vs techniques, while the other two go more 1-sided. So, for the most challenge of the game, either go all Layan in marriages, or all humans.

    • @Sherkel
      @Sherkel ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Its washed-out natural environments have a place in this world of overflowing streetlights and concrete.

    • @JannPoo
      @JannPoo 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      All Orakians is impossible. While in the other 2 marriage scenes you have a Layan and an Orakian choice, Nial must choose either Laya or Alair, who are both Layans. In the end it is required for the 3rd generation Hero to be able to cast Megiddo, so he must have some Layan Blood.
      Ironically in order to get the Hero with the most Orakian blood and least Layan blood on the 3rd generation, you need to choose Maya (a Layan) as your first spouse choice.

    • @qmchale5130
      @qmchale5130 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The third generation will have at least 1/4th of Layan blood because of the Megido technique.

    • @qmchale5130
      @qmchale5130 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @JannPoo The one you're talking about is probably Crys. I was thinking Sean, but he's the most Layan of the four 3rd-Gen heroes. Rhys has to marry Maya, then Ayn has to marry Sari.

  • @ryangraff102
    @ryangraff102 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    One of the old Genesis compilations, the one for the PS2 I think, included an interview with one of the developers of Phantasy Star III. If you read between the lines, he basically says they planned too much for the amount of cartridge space they had available, and had to make huge cuts because of it.

  • @fourstarman1
    @fourstarman1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Lol, i love how crazy harsh this review is, and how basically every comment is about how great the game is. To be clear, i absolutely love ps3. I love it the most for its place in the series which i believe many people misunderstand. I understand, and believe, that ps3 takes place at the exact same time as ps4. I feel like ps3 is kind of like a dlc for ps2. Its amazing to learn that some people made it off parma. I understand it that as the parmanians made a last ditch effort to bail off the planet, PD got a dark force onto one of the ships, to hopefully destroy them all. I then believe, that a battle ensued on the ship and as typical, DF almost destroys the ship and just barely, orakio and laya managed to subdue him. The few remaining people on board struggle in almost a dystopian type story, barely survivng in a medieval way. Also as typical DF tries to break his bonds a thousand years later when his strength peaks, and the story of ps3 takes place far away in space... a thousand years after parma explodes, at the same point in time that DF and PD attack the weakend system back at algo. The music of ps3 is top notch, and actually changes and develops as your party does. The marriage system i believe, works far better than you give it credit here for. The way the different stories battle against humanoids or cyborgs differently, yet also show you that all timelines end with a battle against DF. I think 3 holds it own extremely well. i think when you realize how it fits in the storyline and how cool it is for the characters to realize where they actually come from, an earned respect emerges.

  • @roguerifter9724
    @roguerifter9724 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    "Even when everyone admits this is the worst Phantasy Star..."
    I don't I personally think Phantasy Star II is much worse then this. None of the four are bad IMO mind you but I hate the dungeons in the second game, and like being able to play a game multiple times with decisions I make actually determining the path the story follows.

    • @phyrr2
      @phyrr2 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not to mention the only way to play PS2 is with an emulator or a re-release where the TIME it takes to simply start combat gets cut short.

  • @MrNoobed
    @MrNoobed 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I really was struck at how empty the game is. It seemed so much like a game that just wasn't finished, like everything was left on the cutting room floor on accident.

    • @robertparrott7068
      @robertparrott7068 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      They took the phantasy star crew and put them on sonic. Then they gave this job to the golden axe people and didn’t give them much time to complete it. So it is basically an unfinished game

  • @marywallace3620
    @marywallace3620 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    So here's something interesting, so you know the music on the overworld? Well as you gain more party members the music gains more depth and base or something like that.

    • @juanelorriaga2840
      @juanelorriaga2840 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I noticed that wayyy back in the summer of 1990 i new bar of music would start I like lil stuff like that

    • @RiotDarkside
      @RiotDarkside 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      It gains an extra layer of instrumentation every time your party increases by 1. It's a cool touch!

  • @blackdragoncyrus
    @blackdragoncyrus 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    My favourite part of this game is Lyle giving his blessings for your wedding despite being fucking dead.

    • @fraudulein
      @fraudulein 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      believe it or not, that's somehow a localization error.

    • @blackdragoncyrus
      @blackdragoncyrus 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah, I believe that. Also, aren't Ayn and Thea cousins? Lyle is related to King Cille, who is the father of Maia...

    • @fraudulein
      @fraudulein 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@blackdragoncyrus King Cille refers to Lyle as a nephew, which would make him and Maia cousins, and Ayn and Thea second cousins, yeah.
      Honestly not as scandalous as some people make it out to be; they're royal families, surely they could do worse.

    • @blackdragoncyrus
      @blackdragoncyrus 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@fraudulein Oh, yeah. That's true - I always thought it was just that the devs couldn't find another lady for Ayn as a marriage candidate, so they just picked Thea, lol.

  • @Sherkel
    @Sherkel ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I agree with your criticisms and this is a minor nitpick, but PSIII's reputation as ambitious largely comes from the cut/shortened story elements which the original text boxes had much more space to explain. When it was translated into English in uniform-width font, there was no choice but to cut half of it, and the arbitrary choice of a smaller ROM chip probably didn't help. In case you still "want to like the game", though, I recommend looking at the character pages in the Wiki(a)!

  • @docwhiskey996
    @docwhiskey996 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I like that they're on world ships from Palma. Thats kinda cool.

  • @crawdkenny
    @crawdkenny ปีที่แล้ว +8

    If you did Nial, you missed the "longer" paths through the game. What they do is Nial and Ayn have different generations, but if you do Ayn, Nial's quest is tacked onto the beginning of the third generation. If you do Nial on generation 2, Ayn's content is just skipped.

  • @tatertots3337
    @tatertots3337 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Yes, but we love it anyway.

    • @indifferentone8991
      @indifferentone8991 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Exactly

    • @Chaz4543
      @Chaz4543 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@indifferentone8991 Because we played it when we were really young and didnt notice all the flaws.

  • @looking4themountain
    @looking4themountain 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    This game wasn't grand, but it reminds me of Friday trips to Blockbuster Video with my Dad. It took several rentals before I moved on :)

  • @digitaljanus
    @digitaljanus 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I had a Genesis and this was the first Phantasy Star game I every played, and it blew me away. I had heard the name Phantasy Star before but kind of assumed it was just Sega's version of Final Fantasy I--basic medieval fantasy. I had no idea about the sci-fi angle, so entering that first plexiglass dungeon had my jaw on the floor. Then the multiple generations thing was amazing to me. Later, I tried PSII and then IV and realized III was indeed the series low point but I'll still always have that nostalgia.

  • @RiotDarkside
    @RiotDarkside 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    PS3 was a hugely creative game that inspired many games down the line. It was made by a different team (mostly) than ps2 and was so grand for its time that a lot of narrative content was cut to save on memory. It definitely suffered in some respects and nearly always due to memory constraints. The review is a bit of a whine fest but this game was more important for what came after. They weren't afraid to try new ideas and thats what made it great. Most modern rpgs are guilty of reusing the same old tired concepts. Theres no excuse for that battle music though...

    • @armorvil
      @armorvil 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I like the different battle musics haha

  • @FuriousACTIONGamer
    @FuriousACTIONGamer ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Yeah but the intro to that battle theme is a banger

    • @JasonGravesPoser
      @JasonGravesPoser  ปีที่แล้ว +7

      do do do do dododododo DANANAANNANANANANANANNANANANANANANANANANANANANANANANANANANANANANANANANANANANANANANANANANANA

    • @millgiass
      @millgiass ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@JasonGravesPoser Probably were referencing the ones where you're either way more powerful than the enemies or way weaker than the enemies rather than the neutral one.
      That said, I believe that the triumphant theme was re-used/re-tooled as the Chao Race music in Sonic Adventure. Part of the melody anyway.
      th-cam.com/video/cHi5O_JBPko/w-d-xo.html
      th-cam.com/video/AW4UkmaRYQc/w-d-xo.html

    • @FuriousACTIONGamer
      @FuriousACTIONGamer ปีที่แล้ว

      @@millgiass Oh heavens no. It was the goofy intro. I appreciate that you have full control over its progression. But it's terrible. I hate PS3

  • @KurtHectic97
    @KurtHectic97 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The game have issues but still my favorite.

    • @sandwichsteen
      @sandwichsteen 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      It's a strange one to pick as a fave but I respect that.

    • @truehare
      @truehare 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It'll always have a special place in my heart as well, being the first RPG I ever played, and it's honestly not as bad as everyone says; I still prefer it over II.
      But IV is still my favorite, no doubt about it. As much as I like to stand up for the underdog, there's no way I can deny how frigging awesome Phantasy Star IV was - and how much it still holds up today. In fact, I'm playing it right now on my PS4.

  • @hughjazz44
    @hughjazz44 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    No mention of the music? The music is wildly different than all the other entries.

  • @jakecarlstad6192
    @jakecarlstad6192 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Hey dude, just want to say I love your content! Just found you out through Red Cow! Great stuff

    • @JasonGravesPoser
      @JasonGravesPoser  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Awesome, thank you! RC rocks

    • @KCUFyoufordoxingme
      @KCUFyoufordoxingme ปีที่แล้ว

      Who red cow? What they do?

    • @JasonGravesPoser
      @JasonGravesPoser  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@KCUFyoufordoxingme th-cam.com/video/3jEH6ysbT68/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=RedCowArcade
      They're a podcast, I was on for this one

  • @tatertots3337
    @tatertots3337 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    You know what's really tragic? How badly the lack of CRT fuzz damages the pixel art.

  • @bjbegui
    @bjbegui 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Don't bother watching this video.. the guy sniffs glue

  • @mo_musashi_284
    @mo_musashi_284 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Got happy memories watching a high school buddy completing this game at his pad after ditching school during lunch.

  • @AussieArcade
    @AussieArcade ปีที่แล้ว +11

    No it doesn't "suck" at all, in fact I had far more fun playing 3 that the tedious grind fest that is 2.
    3 only gets it's reputation from the sheeple because it deviated from the previous games in story.
    3 is one of the few games I played multiple times to get all the endings.

    • @victoriarose3774
      @victoriarose3774 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Same thing here. It definitely gets more hate than it deserves.

  • @stevesteve0521
    @stevesteve0521 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    My issues with the game is it didn’t follow up on 2s cliffhanger ending. Graphically it also seemed like it took a step down from 2 and the combat system is kind of a drag. I like the generation’s concept and I like the music in the game but it’s definitely the weakest game of the Genesis trilogy

    • @FreakyLynx
      @FreakyLynx ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree with the combat system, it resembles the first game more - I really prefer 2 & 4 where you actually see the character perform their attack.

    • @thaneros
      @thaneros 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Outside the battles, 3 is graphically superior.

  • @SusieUndertale
    @SusieUndertale 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Nothing I love to hear more than some seriously impassioned bad video game hate
    Great video, earned a sub

  • @TheHiobs
    @TheHiobs 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I prefer my Opinion over yours. Great Game.

  • @ryanc5572
    @ryanc5572 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    PS3 is a step back from even the first game. The ideas are there but it's just dull, tedious, and not fun.
    Clarent Saga Tactics did generations better and it's an indie game made by one guy.

  • @sandwichsteen
    @sandwichsteen 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    PS3 basically sucks but it is still Phantasy Star. If it wasn't for the other 3 it would seem pretty good.

  • @Johnnybomb1
    @Johnnybomb1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's a terrible game. The concept was ambitious, for sure but... that's about it.

  • @gameboylad
    @gameboylad ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I wonder why they just up and got a whole new team for the third game. So random to do that for a trilogy that seems pretty planned out. It's been a treat to watch these videos as someone who's only experience with Phantasy star is through their MMO's

    • @JasonGravesPoser
      @JasonGravesPoser  ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Sonic. They took half the staff to make sonic

    • @gameboylad
      @gameboylad ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@JasonGravesPoser damn on one hand that sucks but on the other that probably was a life changing call to make 💀

    • @Sherkel
      @Sherkel ปีที่แล้ว

      Draw 7 cards from the deck.

    • @KaskelotenZebbe
      @KaskelotenZebbe ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@JasonGravesPoser Sonic was actually made later. Most of the staff instead worked on the Sorcerian port at the same time.

  • @robertparrott7068
    @robertparrott7068 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great video, although it misses the reason why PS3 is loved. Just look at the part where he compares it to dragon quest 4. Sure, he makes great points about the story and gameplay - but the visuals are piss-poor compared to PS3! These two came out at the same time, but PS3 looks much more attractive. It also has intriguing music, just like all of the phantasy star games.
    I think the big thing here is perspective. If you came into PS3 as a hardened RPG player, then you aren’t gonna find a lot of innovation here. But if you were like me, and this was your introductory experience, then it was an incredible game. It wasn't too difficult, it had this awesome medieval to sci-fi story, the graphics were smooth and detailed compared to the boxy crap that was out at the time (case in point -> DQ4), and the music was catchy and immersive. I can replay any of the PS games from that era, but I cant stand the graphics and music from any of the early final fantasy, dragon warrior, or dragon quest games.

    • @robertparrott7068
      @robertparrott7068 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Also, if Sega hadn’t pushed them so hard then this really could have been an all-around great game. They used the normal PS crew for sonic and then basically handed the job to the golden axe crew and said here, make a game in two weeks…

  • @KrystynSRL
    @KrystynSRL ปีที่แล้ว +3

    No it doesn’t

  • @xinyyc
    @xinyyc 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank goodness you said it. I thought I was living in a crazy-town for how much Genesis fans were pressuring me to stick with Phantasy Star III despite how much the game itself was telling me to stop playing it while I tried to stick with it. Even in the collection on the GBA, I'd rather play the grind of Phantasy Star II's battles over and over, listening to Rise and Fall nonstop, than revisit III for even a minute. Everything about 3 seems lazily implemented after II, like they knew they weren't going to top it with by music, pacing, looks, or writing, so they just didn't bother.

  • @killgore699
    @killgore699 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I played through the game many times on my sega genesis. Enjoyed every playthrough.

  • @craigadderley5313
    @craigadderley5313 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hey Jason, I’m a big fan…..of your channel not this game!
    In 89-90 I had a subscription to Video Games and Computer Entertainment. They had an expose on PS 3 which included a write up with loads of screen shots. As a 14 kid I poured over this issue for hours imagining playing this obvious masterpiece. The game was impossible to find were I lived and I never did play it until an adult andI agree entirely with your review!
    PS 2 is also my favourite, there’s just something about it that speaks to me…even though I felt like a rat in a maze for the entirety of the game!

  • @phyrr2
    @phyrr2 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Izuho "IPPO" Numata made the PERFECT soundtrack. The motorola sound chip on the Genesis was flexed well in PS3.
    One thing I enjoyed about PS3 was it's seeming medieval fantasy world until you realize the circular maps aren't just laziness - it's because each 'world' is a domed world spaceship. But each world being preserved in time is like the show The Starlost.

  • @lukechills1842
    @lukechills1842 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I hated the graphics for the fights. The monsters hardly have any animation, and you couldn't see your own characters like in PSII. Most of the music was terrible, with maybe a few exceptions. You can't get attached to any characters like you should in RPGs. I can still remember my dismay over a certain character in PSII. It was a huge letdown after playing PSI and PSII.

  • @fabiomgm1293
    @fabiomgm1293 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The concept is a fun idea, but this was developed by the dudes that developed Sword of Vermillion.

  • @digitaljanus
    @digitaljanus 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    There is one place I did some grinding in this game. The second-best claw Mieu can get is in the last town before the first generation boss fight, and since Mieu and Wren keep their stats and gear when they timeskip, she can tear apart enemies for the rest of the game with that. So I grinded until I could buy it.

    • @robertparrott7068
      @robertparrott7068 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Oh I remember that town. You have to make the bridge to get there. They entice you with that even though you don’t need it… i can’t believe you grinded on 1st gen enemies to get that lol that must have taken hours!

    • @digitaljanus
      @digitaljanus 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@robertparrott7068 I was 12 years old and had nothing better to do, so I figured why not? 😅

  • @jaydub7386
    @jaydub7386 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I hated it. I went through it one time and after that I didn’t care about seeing the rest of the game.

  • @Gemquist
    @Gemquist 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I liked III. Keep in mind this game came out wayyy back when. Having things changed between the generations like towns and NPCs would have likely taken a lot of cartridge space and extra dev time... And Live-A-Live was definitely a superior game. It also came out 4 years later, which back then was nearly a console generation.

  • @inkmage4084
    @inkmage4084 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Laya looks the same, because she goes into cryogenic sleep, like Noah in PS2 which was awesome, PS4, the best though.

  • @qmchale5130
    @qmchale5130 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It just comes off as underwhelming off the heels of Phantasy Star 2. The generational branching is neat, though.

  • @ResilientNinja45
    @ResilientNinja45 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I personally loved PS3 and have played it more than PS4. Guess I just have terrible taste 😤

  • @FreakyLynx
    @FreakyLynx ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I didn’t like PS3 when it first came out but that opinion softened when I replayed it on the Gameboy DS. It’s a lot of unused potential but by the time I was playing it again on the DS I was playing it in the context of PSO being it’s sequel and following either the same life ship or one of the others from 3. So maybe it was sparking something in my imagination? I dunno but I still find it cool seeing the different generations even though they did very little with the concept.
    I absolutely loved Phantasy Star 2, I can live with the grinding aspect.
    I’ll have to look through your videos, I’m assuming you did a review of PS4?

  • @Viktir123
    @Viktir123 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Phantasy Star #2 and #4 were surprisingly good.

  • @TheNintendhoe
    @TheNintendhoe ปีที่แล้ว +5

    6:34 You misspelled 'refugees.'

    • @JasonGravesPoser
      @JasonGravesPoser  ปีที่แล้ว

      Holy shit yeah I wasn't even close!

    • @TheNintendhoe
      @TheNintendhoe ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JasonGravesPoser
      If you don't mind me asking, what is with the running gag of 'poser?'

    • @JasonGravesPoser
      @JasonGravesPoser  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheNintendhoe it's nothing that deep. Just a self insult, like I don't know what I'm talking about

  • @Geraki0n
    @Geraki0n ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I played all four of the original Phantasy Star games for the first time this year (and back to back). I tend to hate 2 more than 3, but I think it's a matter of expectation setting. I was told over and over that PS3 sucks, and it does, so I had rock bottom expectations. Then the fact that it was at least... playable, I guess was more than I expected. PS2 however still has a lot of fans, and as much as I appreciated its production quality and world building/lore, the experience and gameplay were painful.
    I'm glad to have played PS2, and not glad to have played PS3. But if forced, I'd *re*play PS3 over PS2.
    Anyway, in abstract PS3 is a steamed turd. It's crazy how much better PS1 was in the 80s on the master system compared to its successors.

    • @willmistretta
      @willmistretta ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Both are profoundly dull, both squander great ideas, only one frustrates.

  • @fisherdotogg
    @fisherdotogg 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This game really needed to not be on a 512KB cart. They didn't get to give locales unique tilesets or make the presentation of the game systems and story anything worth experiencing

  • @hpdre7437
    @hpdre7437 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This game deserves a complete redo that it'll never get.

    • @sandwichsteen
      @sandwichsteen 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They did it! PSO:NGS is the PSIII of PSO.

    • @fraudulein
      @fraudulein 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@sandwichsteen you take that back right now. that comparison is a completely undeserved insult to PSIII.

    • @Capt_Ahab
      @Capt_Ahab 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@fraudulein I'm glad to know I'm not the only one who finds the PSO games a complete abomination. Sega should have based their online RPG on a completely new franchise instead of using Phantasy Star. I'm hoping that their recent announcement of reviving classic games for new consoles will open the door to PS5.

    • @fraudulein
      @fraudulein 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Capt_Ahab Sorry for the confusion, but I don't actually hate the PSO games personally (rest assured though, I've seen plenty of people who agree with you on the internet), in fact I used to love PSO2.
      What I hate is NGS, because it's the culmination of the new, worse direction PSO2 was heading towards during the latter half of its lifetime.
      As for a PS5, I think PSIV was a fine conclusion to the original series, and I personally wouldn't want them to touch that story (except maybe remaking and actually making a finished product out of PSIII), so storywise I think the best thing they could do is what the PSO games have been doing; brand new story in a new, self-contained world, with only some vague callbacks and similar concepts.

    • @Capt_Ahab
      @Capt_Ahab 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@fraudulein I understand where you are coming from as far as the storyline goes. I just really liked the combat system of PS1, 2, and 4 and the lore. I was hoping to see some kind of Phantasy Star turned-based RPG with modern graphics on a next-gen console. Maybe Sega could make a game based in the same universe as PS but have it occur before the original PS or a nearby star system.

  • @ericb8205
    @ericb8205 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I think the craziest part of the Phantasy Star series is that at least for 2 and 3 the development from beginning to end was like 6 months that's insanely short

  • @borrellipatrick
    @borrellipatrick ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just hate, hate, HATE....the music in the game 👀👉👈

  • @PoogiBear1
    @PoogiBear1 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I know it isn’t great but it’s still one of my favorites on a pure nostalgia. I would rather play PS3 over PS2 any day.

    • @JelloFluoride
      @JelloFluoride ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I was with you until you said you'd rather play ps3. Take care of your crack addiction!

    • @PoogiBear1
      @PoogiBear1 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JelloFluoridek

  • @theelephantintheroom1055
    @theelephantintheroom1055 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I feel like, if they called this game something other than Phantasy Star III and changed a few things, it would have been just fine. It suffered from high expectations.

    • @Sherkel
      @Sherkel ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Maybe they could call it something like...sword...of...vermilion? Or something?

    • @theelephantintheroom1055
      @theelephantintheroom1055 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Sherkel Man, that sounds like a great game concept. I would play the heck out of that.

    • @fargoretro
      @fargoretro ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Sherkel rent a hero also looks like sword of vermilion

  • @Neon002121
    @Neon002121 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I played this through once as a kid. In hindsight all I can say is really cool ideas… but at the expense of solid fundamentals for gameplay and kind of an underwhelming story.

  • @loganhayse8771
    @loganhayse8771 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Shout out for Mr Gentleman. Wish he still did videos but it is what it is. He put his heart and soul into his videos and felt like a professor giving a lecture and I was there for it.

    • @thomasffrench3639
      @thomasffrench3639 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well he is planning to do more videos, but it’s just taking a while.

    • @loganhayse8771
      @loganhayse8771 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@thomasffrench3639 it's been several years now but when he drops one, I'll be there

  • @Vaporbomb
    @Vaporbomb ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I hated this one but loved the generation concept. The opening and world map were bangers too

  • @iwanttocomplain
    @iwanttocomplain ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Totally unjustified criticisms.
    A great game with great pixel art, music and plotline.
    It’s tragically hamstrung by a lack of background tiles.
    I really enjoyed the medieval/future setting. IT felt epic and dramatic. I like the ancient technology that no-one understands. You have to fix the malfunctioning computer to beat the game.
    It’s not about the battles as much as figuring out what to do next to move the story on.
    Dungeons are more like an endurance challenge than maze, you need to have enough stats and heals to get to the exit.
    You are complaining that basic and normal rpg things are not ok here for some reason.
    There’s nothing wrong with this game. It got 8/10 then and it’s still 8/10.

  • @SaxcatGamingCorner
    @SaxcatGamingCorner 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In 1991 it got a 32/40 from EGM. It was considered good back then. Although I agree. It was a step back in a lot of ways. I wonder if the animations had to go for all of the different characters and what story there was had to be changed for your choices. 🤷‍♂️

  • @ArtaiTakahashi
    @ArtaiTakahashi 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The English translation was so bad that they destroyed the plot. PS3 was developed almost simultaneously with PS2 and came out 13 months after it, and PS3 was precisely conceived to be in a timeline succeeding the upcoming title of PS4. First of all the 1000years span comes from Christian theology and refers to millennialism. The events of PS4 happen almost 1000 years after the end of PS2. The starting point of your journey in PS3 is another millennium after the ending of PS4 and the defeat of the profound darkness: this is completely mistaken by the English release that mixes the Orakian war with the exodus from Palma. That being said PS3 serves the best plot of all classic Phantasy Stars, given that you play it from fan retranslations of JP script; the only title properly translated was PS4, so consider the other 3 to be messed up. Keep in mind that it's a 1990 game with technology limits that still looks better than its contemporary rivals. Your first choice of marriage drastically changes your reliance of the 2 foundation of combat system: technology or magic; your choice also has a political outcome that compromises one side of the cast's relationship with you. Also worth mentioning is the music concept as a dynamic gaming experience: the battle bgm has 3 themes depending on how well you're fighting your enemies. The world music changes with how many people you have in your company and it smartly increases with a hyping crescendo. This alone was an insane goal for 1990 home gaming.
    Edit: it also revolutionized the meaning of grinding, because your sons and grandsons will have considerably more stats than you ever had, but at much lower levels; you are always stronger than your parents could have ever been. This decision was so right that later rpg's should have learned from it.

  • @maxstone9999
    @maxstone9999 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another great review! The graphics to this game also suck. The low res pixels were giving me a headache. I know it's not your fault.

  • @xreev0x
    @xreev0x หลายเดือนก่อน

    But you forgot it’s one redeeming quality: the music changes based on how many characters you have. That alone makes up for it being a boring, uninspired, pseudo-sequel.

  • @Neil_Chapman
    @Neil_Chapman ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Unfortunately it sucked bigly

  • @goranisacson2502
    @goranisacson2502 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    A game that gets mostly by on nostalgia and it's background story becoming known and creating reater sympathy for it. Phantasy Star III is a game made by a new team who had barely any time to get things done but gave it all they had anyway, with generations and a more refined auto-battle system. It's a game that people who played it back then look back on as what it felt like to them, and people nowdays look back on and go "man, what could have been"... because engaging with what it IS is mostly just a slog. I played it on emulator in my youth, and I barely even remember doing so- Phantasy Star II at least had Nei and dungeons so hard I still remember trying my best to get through them...

  • @Wizardsleave69
    @Wizardsleave69 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love this game. It's just such a unique entry in the series. This is way to critical. If you actually played 1 & 2 without the internet in the 80s and experienced how impossible they were 3 was a refreshing change. I remember feeling a grand sense of accomplishment when I beat my first Phantasy Star game, it was this one

  • @MacUser2-il2cx
    @MacUser2-il2cx 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The game was passed to another team to develop it that had no knowledge of what the first two games were about while the main Phantasy Star team was working on Phantasy Star IV as a Sega CD game. The game is literal padding which is why it has no impact on the overall saga and has branching paths. It's FILLER.

  • @jeremy-cb2nn
    @jeremy-cb2nn หลายเดือนก่อน

    Arguably the greatest idea for any video game ever.
    Arguably the worst execution for any video game ever.

  • @freddysandoval4252
    @freddysandoval4252 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am seconds into this video and I'm like "IT SSSUUUUUUUCCCCCKKKKKKSSSS". I have never been so dissapointed in playing an RPG, and NO I am not looking for more classic RPGs to be dissapointed by. I already played Hydlide. 😂

  • @gunsrtheanswer
    @gunsrtheanswer 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hah. I played this when I was like 12. Got it used for like $10. I thought it was ok. Not as good as say....Final Fantasy or Dragon Warrior on NES. But at the time I didn't have any other RPG to play. I beat it 1 time and don't remember much; other than it was slow and looked not bad. Your review, I mean RE-view made me laugh.

  • @JimmyBackbeat
    @JimmyBackbeat 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I like 2 a whole lot.
    I understand that 80's rpgs are hard to get into for players who came later into the hobby, but in its day it was something special.
    Hell, the Aerith death scene had jaws dropped in FFVII, but the same thing happened here in the late 80's.
    Phantasm Star III though?
    Naw, it's pretty rough... It's hard to like even for old farts like me.

  • @patrickmcathey7081
    @patrickmcathey7081 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Most memorable parts Wren turn into a cool airplane. You get to ride a dragon briefly. The wack NPCs that stop you from going into the other generation story areas. Escapepipe shenanigans

  • @thebackyardairgunner8776
    @thebackyardairgunner8776 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think the best part of that game was the art cover for the box. haha. Found it rad.

  • @tedmax75
    @tedmax75 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    How can you POSSIBLY not like part 2??? Two was AMAZING!

  • @ezg8448
    @ezg8448 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Phantasy 3 - Generations of Doh!
    This games was never properly finished, even the devs admitted to this.

  • @Mia-dt3gl
    @Mia-dt3gl 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Considering Aron’s ending (i.e. finding Earth ending) has the highest chance of the being the canon ending to this game, you chose the right path for your playthrough.

  • @madjik1979
    @madjik1979 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It WAS a good idea. It was pitched far too soon though. Genesis just...wasn't the system to make this work right.

  • @nottiredofwinning3736
    @nottiredofwinning3736 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    12:47 You really channeled your inner James Rolfe with that 'yeah'

  • @The24thWight
    @The24thWight 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I played a bit of Phantasy star 3. I kinda enjoyed it? But only because I basically went into it expecting a RPG maker level game.

  • @ccsuny2000
    @ccsuny2000 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’ll have to play it again. As a kid I loved it, and played it through all three generations a few times.

  • @JabamiLain
    @JabamiLain 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Not really ambitious as some say. There weren't many changes in personalities or world building. It's a shame.
    I'd go for the demon princess by the way.

  • @apferrando
    @apferrando 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You add the attack animations 2 and 4 had and we have an entirely different game… otherwise it was cool to see what happened to the people escaping Palm/a when it went boom.

  • @pg412
    @pg412 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "Blatantly plagiarize the Denny's kids' menu" is a far superior line to any dialogue in PSIII.

  • @donstarlancer
    @donstarlancer 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I almost impressed you forgot to yell about the laughable enemy battle animations.

  • @indifferentone8991
    @indifferentone8991 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    III sucks very hard if you start the series either from II or IV
    III is very inferior to them in almost every way.

  • @vsolyomi
    @vsolyomi 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    To this day I don't understand how they actually made it look worse than PSII

  • @rossdixonellis
    @rossdixonellis 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The funniest thing is that the text and portraits form a -__- emoji

  • @lanceknightmare
    @lanceknightmare ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Phantasy Star 4 and Phantasy Star Online: Illuminati are my personal favorite two. If you want to attack any title. Feel free to go after Phantasy Star Online, Phantasy Star Online 2 , and Phantasy Star Online 2 NGS. My problem with these games is based off of my experience playing them actually online. While I played Phantasy Star Online: Illuminati on my Playstation 2.

  • @MichaelMelendezFaiz
    @MichaelMelendezFaiz 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really enjoyed this one need to give this another play through

  • @PAINNN666
    @PAINNN666 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is my first JRPG. And I still fall in love in genre

  • @MattsFreeChannel1
    @MattsFreeChannel1 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You've proven it enough, for me.

  • @tf1090c
    @tf1090c ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I gotta admit, I really wanted to like this game... but it was just too rushed.
    The first and fourth game are by far my favourites.

  • @Orion-rl7js
    @Orion-rl7js ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I had the strategy guide, and was my first Phantasy Star game. Holds a special place in my heart, despite it's obvious flaws.

  • @freakyzed8467
    @freakyzed8467 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It was the first Phantasy Star game I played. Was a teen at the time, and thoroughly enjoyed it! Wouldn't want to go back and do it again when there is so much else out there to play.

  • @Fyala102
    @Fyala102 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Phantasy Star 2 and 3 are different kinds of bad. Phantasy Star 2 is a grindy, poorly paced, confusing mess of a videogame, which only positive is the story and the soundtrack. Phantasy Star 3 on the other hand is just terrible. The story is laughably irrelevant, the combat system is overcomplicated (Breath of Fire 1 did it better), and the worlds are so incredibly empty, it's impressive.
    Phantasy Star 3 feels like walking through a swamp, wondering if it gets any better, which of course it never does.
    At least is Phantasy Star 4 amazing. I have to replay it sometime.

    • @isayasbashiri5371
      @isayasbashiri5371 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I guess 80s JRPG are just trash then. Saying PSII is trash because it is grindy means you started in the 90s and you don't understand how JRPGs were

  • @RPGFort
    @RPGFort ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You're not a fraud for only playing one side of the family tree. I only ever did one playthrough and that was all I needed.
    "Exposition row" hahahaha.

    • @fargoretro
      @fargoretro ปีที่แล้ว

      I enjoyed exposition row, it reminded me of exposition circle from Final Fantasy