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YES! I had a 1988 300zx with the digital dash and T-top. Man, do I miss that car. So much fun to drive, especially on a nice warm spring or summer day.
Considering pristine 1988 Trans Am GTA's go for close to 40k I'd sell my rough one for half. Only 20k for a second owner 67k mile, top of the line, for 1988, Trans Am. So many dreamers out there. Hoovie, you've saved me and many more viewers, thousands of dollars and headaches by being the dumbest automotive channel on TH-cam.
It’s really strange that Hoovie wouldn’t fix this car. It’s perfect for the channel. Right in your wheelhouse. Cars like this are why I watch. I’m not mad, just disappointed.
Same, really woukd have loved to see this get fixed instead of the 100th Mercedes. Could have cut some cost too with things like coilovers and such. Sad this didn't get the love it deserves.
@@thefallensaints that was 5 years ago when he did 5 minute videos and still dressed like it was the early 2000s... Things are different now. Plus, this car will go up in value just like the NSX did, decent ones are already into the 15k or more mark. There's profit, and content, to be made here.
I’ve gotta agree with everyone in the comments here, FIX THAT HOOPTIE! It’s definitely cooler than most of the cars you’ve brought to the wizard recently. The Ferraris, Mercedes and BMWs that need repairs constantly are getting pretty stale on this channel. This is something that is actually worth saving and should be reliable for years to come once the restoration is complete.
My first '86 NA 300ZX had 400,000 miles on it when I bought it from the original owner who replaced the timing belt 7 times! I thrashed it for years and sold it for quite the profit...
Right? He’ll dump $15k into a Ferrari that’ll break down next week but won’t dump $8k into a Nissan that would probably be good for another 100k miles once it’s done Plus, I bet it wouldn’t be that hard to get $13k out of this thing when it’s all fixed up and shined up. It’s clean and low mileage
In ‘95 I got my first car, an ‘86 300ZX. My Dad paid $900 for it, with a broken odometer stuck at 222,158 miles. The digital dashboard still worked great, and so did the lady’s voice. I drove that car for almost 15 years, and up until the end the only things I ever had to get done were the brakes, a couple clutches, oil changes, and a new exhaust. Sadly though it had sat for a few months and a family of mice decided they wanted all the wiring to make a nest. A short while later I got my 2nd car, a ‘92 300ZX. I haven’t looked back since. These cars are awesome and deserve to be preserved!
This 300Z would have been one of your coolest “rebirths”. This car would have taken your channel back to its roots. Normal people like me like to see the exotics but a car like this is so exciting to see brought back to life.
This ZX is probably the best purchase you've made in years. Of course you should fix it. I'd actually recommend a full restoration for this one, it's SO COOL.
If its not german Italian or early american/ muscle car hoovie wont do it. Kind lame I like hoovie channel but I watch less now that he dont touch your average sports car
Absolutely a car worth saving, the value is only going to climb with the cosmetic shape being very good in comparison to what most of these look like now.
It’s crazy that he doesn’t want to fix this car. It’s sickening actually. The value of these cars is skyrocketing and this one has so much going for it. This is the first car he’s featured that I can truly relate to and he wants nothing to do with it.
I actually don't think its worth fixing. Its got 100K miles, not in the greatest shape (though not terrible), its not that low mileage barn find that is going to reward you, its going to hold the same value of any other 300ZX Turbo with 100K that's in above average shape except those haven't been sitting for 1-2 decades and aren't going to require thousands in repairs. Unless he got it at the right price, its not justifiable, and while these may be rising in price, his won't be the shining example that ends up on some auction site and goes for record money. This thing doesn't make sense at all.
I have to admit: it's getting really old with all the exotics on every TH-cam channel. While the exotic cars are really neat to see and daydream about, these everyday type of drivers from back in the day connect on a whole different level. There is a level of nostalgia with something like the 280ZX and the 300ZX. People like me actually knew people that drove a car like this. While hardly any of us ever knew anybody that owned a Lamborghini or a Ferrari or any other high-end exotic. The one thing that's really crappy is that everybody seems to think that all TH-cam viewers want to do is view only the cars they made posters for.
I think they have their place for sure. Hoovie strikes the perfect balance for me, it’s neat seeing some older super cars, but it’s neater still seeing some mint affordable and lower end luxury cars too.
Had an exotic car. Worst thing I ever bought, impractical as all fuck. Was finicky and temperamental and I was always afraid to drive it anywhere far away cause I just couldn’t fully trust it 100 percent. Sold it back in September last year and I was glad I did. Had it for 20 years and drove it less and less cause it was getting old. The final draw came when the catalytic converter started to fail and it kept throwing a code PO-420 that and having moved and loosing my place to keep it didn’t help either. Sure I’ll miss my 911 turbo but I got a good price for it and bought something much more usable
The main reason I stopped watching this channel regularly. This is the first video I’ve watched in months because I saw thumbnail and the car interested me. Now I see he’s not even going to keep it. Oh well, back on the don’t watch list.
This is more a car for the Wizard’s TH-cam channel. But the Wizard said last week that he does not want to deal with long term projects anymore. May be they both agreed to take a pass on this one.
I bought the car, itll be restored, dont worry. The 8k estimate is maybe fine to get someone to do everything (and still pretty high imo), but degraded parts and a turbo rebuild (its just an old Garrett t3 and can be upgraded) are under 3k. Someone asked me to do some YT vids on it and I may try some as I restore.
The cut wires in the engine are from the Nissan recall/service campaign for the fuel injectors in the 1990's. The injectors and wires were known to catch on fire, so Nissan fixed it by issuing a patch harness amongst other items to be replaced. Since the injectors batch fire, it was easier to cut the four other injector leads, cap them off, and run the injectors off two injector leads only. The recall patch harness can be identified by the two yellow stripes on the fuel injector harness seen in the video.
I feel bad for Hoovie, If I knew him I would have helped him fix the essentials like the turbo and timing belt for really cheap. It's basically a turbo Maxima and those 3000 engines are simple. I replaced 3 of them in my 90 maxima and they are definitely not hard to work on. It would have been cool to see that car live again.
@@StealthyWolfDaddyWerewolf On these 300ZXs like this I have been reading up on rebuilding the turbo and the replacements needed, is it true you are better off pulling the engine out entirely if it needs lots of rubber/seal replacements and turbo work? I actually bought this car from Kamal, and I have an engine hoist, but people are all over the place on forums whether to go that far or not. Parts have been much cheaper to order than I thought (gpopshop has proper carbon seal T3 rebuild kits for 100 bucks lol) but reading up on how to get to everything has a lot of conflicting info. Plus if I go as as far as pulling the engine I can do some other stuff like replace the clutch easier. Its my first Z and full resto, so im doing everything right the first time, no shortcuts.
@@dentron9885 Not sure if you want to tear it down to a short block and do all the seals. If I were you I would start with the turbo first and make sure you don't end up breaking exhaust studs. Your best bet is to change the oil and examine for metal in oil and filter before anything to make sure the turbo did not shoot out all the oil and kill the motor or bearings. If you have broken exhaust / manifold studs then it's like you kinda have to remove the heads if you can't get em out. I would change the oil, replace the turbo and get it able to rev / operate "gently" and properly first. You don't want to rev it hard and be cautious of the timing belt, maybe remove the cover first just to make sure it is not super bad. Then if it comes back to life do the timing belt the 2 cam seals main seal and water pump. Then drive it for a little bit gently to see if it's leaking oil or acting / sounding strange. Be sure to mark the cams and crank teeth to the belt on the old one and mark match it to the new belt then put it on. Be sure you have a good paint pen for metal. It's interference so marking teeth precisely is essential. I suggest Castrol engine oil only, I use magnatec or the sludge clean depending on how it looks each oil change or if it's got buildup from cheap oil. You can remove the motor and put all the parts on it, but if you can get the turbo changed and do the timing belt. It might be worth it to see if the clutch is working right and just do a few things at a time if it needs it. I don't know if the oil pan is harder to get off because of a brace or anything. But it could be a nightmare if you were to redo all the seals then the head gaskets went bad or something happened before you. Also do the thermostat. I blew my first 3000 engine running it while overheating bad thermostat and it popped everything. The second crate engine had a rod knock later The 3rd engine on the other maxima was from a used automatic and ran fine. Sold that car and got another. My last Maxima engine in different car had a head gasket issue with overheating going up hills. Had to keep the thermostat out with no issues. So all that being said if you can change the turbo with no issues and get it running. Do the timing belt thermostat water pump and drive it for a while. Then once you get to know the car you can decide if you need other seals, head gaskets .etc. I think that car had 100 something k on it. So it shouldn't need alot. Then if you need to do head gaskets .etc. You can remove everything and know you are not trying to revive something that's really bad. Driving on a bad turbo can lead to oil loss, engine air mixture issues .etc. I have had to learn the hard way that anything metal in the oil means immediately checking the rod bearings along with the engine has to operate properly and sound good before tearing it down to a short block and redoing all the seals. The Maxima heads can warp too, so compression tests are important. For the timing belt, just remove the radiator and do it from ontop or below. It is kinda more fun when you have one issue at a time than all in one. I do the slow process on my own vehicles nowadays and it makes it more fun and teaches you what kind of impact that bad part was doing to say handling braking shifting .etc.
Things like this are my favorite part of this channel. The exotics are great and everything but I think the older more obscure cars are much more interesting. That being said it's very disappointing that this one isn't getting fixed. Hope to see more cars like this in the future.
This was a car to save!!!!!!! I love watching your channel but to say no to such an iconic ZX is just down wrong. This is the foundation of your channel of saving vehicles that no one thinks about. Save the Nissan!!!!!!!
I own the same ‘80s era Z31 300ZX Turbo since new. Those cut wires were from a recall where they replaced the fuel injectors and had to replace the wiring. They all look as if they are “cut”. Feel free to ask any ECU questions as these cars are complicated to getting running right. There are lots of little tricks and the ECU error codes are misleading.
Hoovie 4 years ago would have loved to restore this car. Maybe he would have wrenched on it himself. This is a dream barn find. No rust, runs and drives. Suspension, tune up and turbo are the definition of LUCKY to only need work. This was a lame shot for views. probably scripted and planned from the beginning. He has no intention to restore this beauty.
I never comment on your videos, Tyler. I love your content. But This seriously a missed opportunity. The Japanese car scene has a huge following and putting 8 to 10k into this to get it where it needs to be isn't that bad. Every youtuber has a Ferraris and Lamborghini cars. This Nissan is an absolute gem.
With a body that rust-free underneath I'd definitely consider fixing her. I don't know how common these are in the US, but this side of the pond most have rusted away by now, and that alone makes them pretty rare. Wouldn't have been your worst decision to have this one fixed.
I've never seen a turbo in the wild here in CA, only on online listing for sale in some random town way out there in farm country. Prolly a sign of the turbo models reliability. I'd be down to own a non turbo model just for the looks.
I live in SW Florida and these Z31's are getting rarer and more expensive almost monthly it seems... Wish I still had the 5 I previously owned. Hoovie is extra dumb for letting this go. I would like to pursue buying it myself for nearly that price.
To me, this is far more interesting than just another Ferrari or Lambo. The 80's Japanese stuff is getting hot and that car will easily be worth the $13k you'll have into it and more. Would have been great content as well.
Agree, it is sad Hoovie didn’t rescue this hooptie. But I guess it is the dumbest automotive channel on TH-cam so getting rid of this beauty fits the description. 😂😔
I’m with a lot of these people, that car would actually be worth saving, nobody cares about the junk Ferrari or the ML63, but this would actually be a cool car
Well depending how much he got it for he may not be upside down. The turbo Zs go for a lot of money these days, whether people are actually buying them at the high price may be a different story but they're definitely listed high.
I remember being in high school and drooling over an '85 exactly like this one- same color even- brand new in the lot. Tyler's breaking my heart passing this one up,
Hoovie, I’m sure you’ve already looked at the values of these cars but in case you didn’t, I just checked Hagarty. The average value for an ‘85 300 ZX turbo in good condition is $18,500. Considering you paid $5000 for it and your friends and family discount with the Wizard let’s you get what it needs done for $8500, you’re still ahead by $5000. I would not have hesitated to get this car fixed up right with everything she needs. She’s a beauty. These are ever more rare as time goes in because, especially those from rust belt areas of the country, they completely rotted away by now. Or younger kids got a hold of them when they were cheap but still in working order and completely thrashed them to death or wrapped them around telephone poles. Also, 1985 is the first year Nissan discarded the Datsun nameplate in America, so this can be considered a first year nameplate. Which dies add to its value a little. If I could get the discount Wizard gives you for everything it needs, I would offer to buy it from you right now for what you paid and have Wizard do the project. You should seriously reconsider this project.
You'de be hard pressed to get 18k from anyone in the z community to buy that. Heck, i can't even find a buyer for my classic 78 280z with a price of 15k
My heart's with you on this but my head tells me $13.K only gets you a mechanically sound car based on known issues. Hoovie needs to consider the inevitable unseen ones plus some money to get the interior up to snuff. Supply chains aren't going to get any better in the short run and this car could be a resident in the Wizard's garage for 6-12 months. Tyler maybe thought I can make a lot more in far less time on another vehicle. Still it would be a cool build.
Sounds reasonable except those Hagarty cars are in much better shape. That 8 grand is only mechanical. After that there's all the cosmetic which could be another 8 grand easy. Totally upside down on a cool runner but that's it. If this was your dream car then it might be worth it, otherwise stay far away!
After he got the Mercedes SLS I remember him talking about returning to the early days of the channel and trying to do more unique cheaper hoopties, and he seemed to be on that track for a bit, but it does seem like he has gone back to pricier cars. What cheaper hoopties he does buy, he only has one or two videos on before never talking about them again or getting rid of them. I do understand that the market has changed and cars from the 80s and 90s, at least unique ones, have gone up in price. It would still be nice to see, though, instead of the basic cheap luxury, expensive classics, and exotic cars.
Yeah it has I remember when it used to be relatable then about the time he bought the new house it started changing. I get it though, it's still amusing to have a car salesman try to convince me that German cars are great cars.🤣😂🤣😂
This is kamal ,I sold the car to hoovie and I bought it back, it is going to a good home a gentleman that have always wanted one and he is going to spend money on it and bring it back to the shape it deserves. Good luck John
I would have paid the 8 grand and had a nice, refreshed Z car. I truly love that body style, which has been forgotten a bit by the two that buffer it. Do it justice
Tyler, I love your channel, but I have to agree with so many others that this was a car that I would've loved to see the Wizard make right. I haven't seen one in several years until this video actually. It's possible this car is cooler than even you believe it is. Thanks for at least showing it to us. But our hearts are broken, brother.
When he said no to fixing it, my soul felt itself crumble to pieces.The dissapointment...the heartbreak...THE PAIIIIINNNNN 😫😫😫 I really wanted to see this ZX restored 🥺😞 Euros and supercars are nice, but it's all there is on big car channels.
dawg.... i NEVER say this, but please completely restore this one, new hoses, wires, the works. this is one of them "needs to be saved" cars. its just to good of an example to bastardize and its 100% the specs people want, turbo + stick
My buddy already bought this car and he's for sure gonna restore this car. It's his dream car and he actually tried to buy it a year ago. Now he's got a down payment on it and it will be shipped to him soon
@@lightdot459 does he have a TH-cam channel? I'm a Z31 nut, and was so excited to see Hoovie get one, and then upset when he decided to immediately get rid of it. I want to see it brought back to life!
@@VintageandVoltage, same here and I WANT THE CAR! I currently have an '86 Turbo GLL 5-speed I'm restoring with the Burgundy/Burgundy and Digi-dash combo. Hoovie a fool for letting this one go... @light dot, I second homeboy's channel request on the restore. I would definitely sub and watch that series many times.
@@VintageandVoltage Its me, but I'm not advertising too much about it, I really haven't done any YT recording and stuff, but I could give it a go. I am gonna be restoring the car back to original condition (only thing that may have to go is the fancy electronic shocks since those seem to be unobtainium these days, and normal adjustable replacements are dirt cheap, but ill keep an eye out if some show) It'll be shipped to me in about a month from Kamal, and im already planning parts list for full rubber and degraded component replacement, rev issue is due to MAF, new thermostat, new hoses, etc. Being rust free and not messed with I couldnt pass it up for the price. Itll be my first car resto and I plan on doing it right. Also the 'cut' wiring is from the injector recall and isnt actually missing anything engine wise.
Love this car so damn much. My father had a 1984 Datsun 300zx Turbo with a 5 speed. It was beige. When I first heard about this car I fell completely in love with it. I don't find many good YT videos on them as they are very underrated, so I'm very glad that you guys are giving this car the attention it deserves!
I had a 1986 Nissan Bluebird (Stanza I think in the US) that had sat for around 15 years, just started right up on stale fuel, on the second turn of the key. Didn't drive out as the clutch had seized, but once it had freed off, what a wonderful, light, smooth action, all controls were perfectly weighted. Puts many more modern cars to shame!
Be aware due to the storage there is an outstanding recall on it. It was replacing the fuel injectors and injector wiring harnesses on it. Used to work for Nissan and did LOTs of them.
Correct. There is a mandatory recall on the fuel injection system. Every car should have it done. If there is no record of it having been done, the dealer must replace several parts the fuel injection system AT NO COST. The car will spray fuel across the top of the motor and catch fire otherwise. Good for views, not for the longevity of a car that most definitely should be saved. I owned one (non turbo), a family member had a turbo version. They are amazing cars. If it isn't rusty that car is worth saving. Swap out the adjustable suspension (there are kits for this). It is expensive and prone to failure. Don't let this one go hoovie.
@@paristrout8469 I had a metallic blue with blue interior 85 Turbo manual and had the recall work done in like 2001 or 2002. The service manager literally gave me the “you’re kidding right?” face. However it had never been done so they did it.
@@popejohnny5 Ha. When I took mine in, I had already redone most of the car. I had pulled the motor, replaced the exhaust, cold air intake, electric cooling fans, etc. I had also gotten 3rd party distributor, cap and rotor, that had a lifetime guarantee. Took the car in for the recall. Ran like a top, sounded better, smoked the tires. 2 days later went to pick it up. Pulled it out of the service department, drove around the building, and brought it right back into the service department. Ran like shit. Argued with the dealer for DAYS. their response was "it runs fine for a car of its age". Multiple times. Long story short, I told them it felt/sounded like a misfire (after driving it for .1miles). Asked them to check the distributor, it was common for idiots to wack it with a ratchet handle and crack it when working on the motor. Told them not to replace it if its bad, because I had a lifetime warranty. He calls me back 2 hours later. "Hey your distributor was cracked, we replaced it, and it runs great." Of course they threw away the cap I had. I f'ing hate dealers.
I have to agree with everyone else I am quite surprised that you didn’t decide to fix this up. I have personally owned a 1984 300ZX and an 85. Awesome cars! And a great engine! Not to mention the secondary market on these cars in this kind of condition you would’ve easily gotten your money back out of it.
They're great...when they've been driven. I didn't hear "replace every rubber gasket" on that itemized list, so I'm sure that $10,000 is closer to the actual cost of that restoration.
I love those cars but he already paid retail value for it. To put another $8000 in a car worth $4-6k is just ridiculous. Hoovie really needs to start doing some of his own repairs. He has good knowledge of how to do basic things. He would save a ton.
$5k to buy and $10k or so to fix. 80s Japanese sports cars are going way up in price. Our 89 Supra turbo has gone from maybe $8k pre pandemic to around $20k now.
I was really hoping to see a Japanese car make its way to the channel again since it's been so long. I'm with the others here in saying I love the exotics but find a car like this to be a little more interesting.
@@ericgraham454 In England we can do a lot better for 85 thousand pounds. Nissan here are considered a bit low rent...like buying a renault...cvt transmission and tiny diesels. It's a crying shame
This would’ve been a great content to watch. I’m with everyone, should’ve fixed it and the car wizard can make a profit on top of fixing the car as well by just documenting the restoration on his TH-cam channel which I’m sure a lot of us is also subscribed to
Agree entirely - so many automotive You Tubers thoughtlessly discard what made them appealing in the first place - their success seems to be their undoing....or is it that they become slaves to their sponsors? I wish they'd listen to their subscribers and keep the good stuff coming; if it ain't broke, why disappoint your audience with boring self-indulgence on exotics?
Missed opportunity to restore an 80’s icon. I owned an 85 turbo with the digital dash, regret selling back in 95. It was getting looks from drivers back then. Hoovie, please reconsider a restoration of this amazing car. You will get your money back, lots of views and the car will keep you company as she chats about doors being open.
That ZX is so cool, in amazing condition for it's age. Most of those repairs are age related, just expensive because they all need doing at once instead of over the lifetime of the vehicle!
Honestly I'd love to see this car fixed up. These old japanese cars are just so cool. Maybe a restomod would be something to look into, at least suspension and the turbo?
Hoovie finally buys a car I'm really interested in... Hoovie goes completely out of character and doesn't drop loads of money into fixing it. You should of at least done the Turbo and the wiring to make it run right.
Even with that big bill, having her returned to her former glory, she would've been worth much more than you invested. The price of these classic Z's has been going through the roof lately. Sad that you aren't keeping her, but I guess it's better for the channel to keep "premium" brand cars that repeatedly break down on you.
How many miles? How much did it cost? 10k to do all that and seat repair and a full detail. Yes please. Hoovie - THIS is the car I’d want to see videos on. Not yet another busted M-B or Ferrari. Give us GenX 80s kids some love.
I remember driving these in the early 90’s. They where amazing cars. So much cooler than the stuff you’ve been doing recently on this channel. Very sad your not saving this one, it is the perfect spec.
It is the perfect spec, and the kind of car that built the channel. I am hugely disappointed in both Hoovie and Wizard for passing on this beauty. I was SO EXCITE for this car seeing it in the background of older videos for weeks... Big mistake on their end.
Hoovie, I have been following you since you had about 20 000 followers and I loved the channel. It's great that you can afford your dream cars.... but don't forget what makes your channel great! Greetings from Germany!
@@ILOVEBACONBOY2018 isn’t he the guy who bought a corvette, mustangs, vans, suburbans, and much more. He still buys regular or non exotics, but what’s wrong with buying the exotics as well if he enjoys them?
I like when Hoovie shows us his quirky self. Like the cute skits and movie references. Not acting to try and be awkward or screwy necessarily on purpose, but just the general cool and different quirky type of guy that he is. For instance his 80s public access style music intro. A lot of his weird and cool taste has been diluted as he has dubbed himself the "Dumbest". He's not dumb, he's nostalgic, different, and has interesting taste for things and details many others overlook.
@@watchreport He can do whatever he wants, just know that most of us don't give a crap about which Lambo or Farrari he's fixing anymore. It's become old and boring.
The Fairlady is actually very much worth saving. You'll be shocked at the values once she's all squared up. We're losing more and more each day, this one deserves a resto. I hope someone with the means will treat her right.
You bought a Z31 Turbo! My favorite car, I own 5 currently and have owned way more than that. Well worth saving , one of the coolest cars out there for the money. The tech in the 84 GLL was amazing for the time, especially the digital gauges. No surprised it started with fuel system clean, I have gotten dozens to work the same way after years of sitting. They are so well built that it won't take much to get back to life, rust will be the determining factor. But it looks clean, too bad you are selling it back. Disappointed. All those items listed are expected for the car of this age, but not at once. It's actually worse to get a car that's been sitting for years because no one has replaced or maintained anything on it. Most z31's you'd buy right now would have had alot of those parts replaced by now.
Agreed Gary! I owned 5 previously that I wish I had kept... just recently acquired an '86 Turbo GLL 5-Speed Digi-Dash that I'm currently restoring. Every power option/dash still works! Some of the best built cars EVER!
I finally see something on this channel that would make sense to throw money at.... A very nice rust free 300 z, which are a dieing breed and soon to be unobtainable. Please do this car hoovie
i had an 84 turbo 5 speed, most reliable car i've ever owned. i loved that car! i paid $800 for it from the original owner. pretty much the same deal, dropped the tank and reconnected the fuel pump, fired right up. sat from 1996 to 2015. body was immaculate, same with paint and interior. my turbo wasn't locked up though, 209k miles as well
It's cool that it has such low miles but if it's been sitting idle for 30 years I'm sure it'll need at least half of what the one in the video needed. Of course it would be worth doing the work considering mileage wise it's basically new.
The 300 is one of my favorite from my teenage years. As much as I love the Ferrari’s and such early Japanese sports cars will always have a special place in my heart.
A never-ending and confusing stream of German and Italian cars that we are informed are all "special" in some obscure way or another, and then finally he gets a car that most viewers actually *know* what it is…and he gets rid of it.
He never claimed this was the smartest automotive channel on TH-cam. Still, his relentless work to go in the other direction never ceases to amaze me. This decision reeks like the North end of a Southbound skunk.
Yes, yes, yes. I guess we'll see if he reads comments on this. Truth is a whole lot of us have zero interest in Mercedes, BMW, Ferrari and less interest in owning one. Even those who can afford them. I'm 40 now and could easily afford a 355 or 360 but they have no appeal at all to me. They were old guy lame cars when I was younger and my opinion hasn't changed. I'm a domestic guy through and through but when this car was new even I looked over at it at the redlight from my Camaro or Mustang and admired it. Looking over at a 355 or 360 at the same time only brought about thoughts of Bosley and wheel of fortune. Hopefully he'll realize the car's here can't only appeal to him because if a bunch of us bounce he'll be left driving hoopties again.
This was one of those cars I dreamed of owning/driving when I was in high school. It was way out reach, so I ended up with a new V8 Camaro. I get how you feel when you seen it. Remembering what kind of car it was, then picturing what it could be like again if you spent a little time and money on it. Been there and done that with a few project cars. And I learned. They are money pits, but you also don't get much time behind the wheel, and it is usually always something else broken and leaving it sit. You spend more time under the hood than behind the wheel, and then you just give up. If I had to guess, I would say the wiring mess was someone trying to "un-turbo" the car. Trying to trick the car into thinking there wasn't a turbo on it. It is kind of heart breaking in the way, but the past is best left in the past. And the new ones are just not the same at all. I test drove a new convertible since it was well within my reach now, and while it felt like a sport car, it also felt like Nissan just stopped putting an effort into making it something special. Beside that, the check engine light came on during the test drive. I had to tell the dealer I had no interest in a car with less than 100 miles that is already starting it's life with problems.
My 1st car was a 84 300zx non turbo 2+2 with digital gauges. My mom bought the car for 500$ in 95 with 0 rust and 74k miles. What a steal. Only thing I had to replace was the mass airflow sensor, otherwise the car ran great. It always felt way ahead of it's time. Was looking forward to Hoovie fixing this one up!
Nostalgia hitting me hard on this one, especially the voice. This was my first car when I was 16 right down to the color combo, but I had the digital dash and the 16" corvette style wheels. suffice to say that I totaled it 5 months after getting it (canadian winters suck!). loved it so much that I got it again as my 2nd car, but 2+2 and auto. sad to hear that I won't get to see more of it on your channel.
Disappointed, Hoovie. This is the type of stupid investment that made this channel what it is. That car sorted out, and detailed to perfection would be so awesome. Much cooler than the exotics you've become obsessed with because your average viewer may actually come across an old Z car and purchase it, as opposed to buying a Ferrari that needs work which 95% of us won't ever do.
My first car was an 89 240sx that had a 92 300zx drivetrain, suspension and brakes... It was a rocket ship...! 3.0L(non-turbo), 5-speed and 4-wheel disc...a 16 year old probably shouldn't have had it, but I did...! Thanks, keep up your awesomeness and go enjoy some nature today...
Wow, I would have fixed that car! That car is a classic...and Turbo! My friend had a non-turbo back when I was in High School and till this day I have never been in any car that cornered so well! I almost want to buy that car! That body is straight too, no rust, no dings. A new paint job would make that car real nice!
I suspect this is one of those cases where sure, he'd get maybe 3 videos out of the fixing of it, but then it'll just work and it'll be neglected. Probably the best fiscal plan for this channel, though I do echo the sentiment that it'd be really cool to see it live properly again.
Best for the wizard to, he doesnt make much money of hoovie when he brings crap. wizard and hoovie have a expensive car deal and without it the wizards shop would be hurting without hoovies fuckups with the higher ends, this is why hes not fixing this car, just not worth the wizards rate to money ratio
Hey Tyler, your fan base really wants you to bring this “Hooptie” back to life. Give em’ what they want. When finished it would be a great contest give away car or Hoovies Garage auction. Please reconsider your decision.
Problem is what it would be worth vs what your putting into it. I had the option to buy a bitter SC in a similar type of situation. I passed because parts were nigh on impossible to find for it and given how long it sat I would be needing to have the trans rebuilt, with no calipers available I would have to rebuild those, the steering rack and other stuff. When the car is a few years old it’s not so bad. When it’s 25 to 40 years old finding parts for it can be an exercise in aggravation
I bought a 1988 2+2 out of 16 years of storage, had 91,000+ miles on it. Analog dash, controls in steering wheel. The used car people foolishly started it up without clearing out the old fluids, but it ran. I bought it cheap to get it off his lot, spent some money replacing things here and there, and it's my daily driver. Fantastic car, drives like a dream local or highway, sounds awesome in it's natural state as designed. Had to find an older mechanic who doesn't depend on modern car computer. Always get's admiring looks and comments, lots of people have fond memories of it. Incredible Nissan abandoned this model, people would buy it today.
Tyler, I agree with the other's, this is the type of restoration we want to see! If a couple thousand of us buy a t-shirt, that should cover most of the repair. Please reconsider!
I had a 79 Datsun/Nissan 280zx loved that car it was navy blue. Had the 5 point rims on it. Inline 6 5sp manual, fuel injected. Custom stereo in it. Lots of innovation for a car made when I was 6 years old. Glad to hear someone is going to fix this old girl back up to her original glory even if it will not be documented on video.
Of course its too much to pay a shop to fix all at once. This is the kind of job that a guy does on his own time with his own hands as parts are sourced from more affordable options. The body is great and the paint and interior are nice. No reason this car won't be a great driver again for the right person.
Yeah. If you were a tinkerer and doing it yourself, then you're looking at 3-4 grand and your time. The cavaet is that their are a lot of "fun" cars of that era you could be in for the same kind of $$$.
I would say yes to the Wizard. The body was straight and rust free. Then a few more thousand to clean up the cosmetics. $15,000 in for a car that surely is worth $25,000 or so. Sounds good to me.
That is what I was thinking he paid 5k and then he was going to fix it for 10k plus the paint Wich could be another 3k , I think he really didn't liked the car .
I had an 83 280zx and one of these in the mid 90s. Both were fun cool cars. Was amazing how nice they were for the period. My 300zx even had the digital dashboard which at the time was way cool. For all of the deferred maintenance on this car that estimate isn’t that bad really and I suspect since it sat for so long it needs quite a few gaskets as well. And had it not sat for so long I’d guess at least a couple of items may not have gone south such as the turbo and the steering rack and power steering pump. Sitting for extended periods is bad for any car. I see a lot of Ferraris that suffer from similar issues because they sat. I remember an old boss of mine bought a Ferrari 512tr that had sat for 6 years that had an almost 6 figure repair bill mostly from sitting. While I understand where hoovie is coming from on this car it’s sad to see one that is a survivor in that good of shape not be “restored”.
I'm kind of disappointed. I would have loved to see this car brought back to life. Don't get me wrong, i love Ferrari's and all, but, that 300ZX is the kind of car in my reach, and with the apparent lack of rust, it seems to be a great project car. Definitely deserves a restoration.
When I was 16 I had saved up all the money that I have earned I bought an identical version of that car except for it was all white with tan interior and an extra set of fiberglass t-tops that were colored match to the car from California it was absolutely perfect except the motor was blown. I had a nightmare of a time trying to find a motor and couldn't find one for a long time. One day when I pushed it out of the garage and was cleaning it up somebody stopped and offered me stupid money for it the way it sat. I paid $500 for it and sold it for $6,000 in 2002. The guy I sold It to still owns it to this day.
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Would you sell me the car
14k views in 35 mins equals 14k people that are now on Autotempest looking for a cheap 300Z.
I think this is the car you should’ve fixed. This car has real value.
YES! I had a 1988 300zx with the digital dash and T-top. Man, do I miss that car. So much fun to drive, especially on a nice warm spring or summer day.
Considering pristine 1988 Trans Am GTA's go for close to 40k I'd sell my rough one for half. Only 20k for a second owner 67k mile, top of the line, for 1988, Trans Am. So many dreamers out there. Hoovie, you've saved me and many more viewers, thousands of dollars and headaches by being the dumbest automotive channel on TH-cam.
It’s really strange that Hoovie wouldn’t fix this car. It’s perfect for the channel. Right in your wheelhouse. Cars like this are why I watch. I’m not mad, just disappointed.
Same, really woukd have loved to see this get fixed instead of the 100th Mercedes. Could have cut some cost too with things like coilovers and such. Sad this didn't get the love it deserves.
Probably going off his previous experience with the NSX, Japanese classics don't get as many views as basket case Italian/German cars lmao.
Agreed. I find myself skipping his postings more and more because I tire of seeing only megabuck$ exotics that are in a world I'll never see.
i think because hes more high end cars.
@@thefallensaints that was 5 years ago when he did 5 minute videos and still dressed like it was the early 2000s... Things are different now. Plus, this car will go up in value just like the NSX did, decent ones are already into the 15k or more mark. There's profit, and content, to be made here.
I’ve gotta agree with everyone in the comments here, FIX THAT HOOPTIE! It’s definitely cooler than most of the cars you’ve brought to the wizard recently. The Ferraris, Mercedes and BMWs that need repairs constantly are getting pretty stale on this channel. This is something that is actually worth saving and should be reliable for years to come once the restoration is complete.
My first '86 NA 300ZX had 400,000 miles on it when I bought it from the original owner who replaced the timing belt 7 times! I thrashed it for years and sold it for quite the profit...
Rollin' with Roland lmao that happened
Yep I agree. Was looking forward to this channel getting back to its roots.
Right? He’ll dump $15k into a Ferrari that’ll break down next week but won’t dump $8k into a Nissan that would probably be good for another 100k miles once it’s done
Plus, I bet it wouldn’t be that hard to get $13k out of this thing when it’s all fixed up and shined up. It’s clean and low mileage
In ‘95 I got my first car, an ‘86 300ZX. My Dad paid $900 for it, with a broken odometer stuck at 222,158 miles. The digital dashboard still worked great, and so did the lady’s voice. I drove that car for almost 15 years, and up until the end the only things I ever had to get done were the brakes, a couple clutches, oil changes, and a new exhaust. Sadly though it had sat for a few months and a family of mice decided they wanted all the wiring to make a nest. A short while later I got my 2nd car, a ‘92 300ZX. I haven’t looked back since. These cars are awesome and deserve to be preserved!
This 300Z would have been one of your coolest “rebirths”. This car would have taken your channel back to its roots. Normal people like me like to see the exotics but a car like this is so exciting to see brought back to life.
🥹Ditto
I'm sure he wants to go back to his roots, back when he had 5000 subscribers
This ZX is probably the best purchase you've made in years. Of course you should fix it. I'd actually recommend a full restoration for this one, it's SO COOL.
Does make sense to fully restore with those miles.
Mechanically sound is a better sell than full resto with no patina.
Yes! Full restoration 👍🏾
He shouldn't have paid more than $3k, sitting like it was, but negotiating sure isn't his strong suit.
"$5000? Are ya sure that's enough??"
If its not german Italian or early american/ muscle car hoovie wont do it. Kind lame I like hoovie channel but I watch less now that he dont touch your average sports car
Agreed. I like these way more than ANOTHER lambo or bmw
Absolutely a car worth saving, the value is only going to climb with the cosmetic shape being very good in comparison to what most of these look like now.
It’s crazy that he doesn’t want to fix this car. It’s sickening actually. The value of these cars is skyrocketing and this one has so much going for it.
This is the first car he’s featured that I can truly relate to and he wants nothing to do with it.
@@MrCumstein yep. I have zero interest in any of the ferrrari’s and exotics he has
He should just sell it for parts. 8K in repairs for a cheap car is crazy
I actually don't think its worth fixing.
Its got 100K miles, not in the greatest shape (though not terrible), its not that low mileage barn find that is going to reward you, its going to hold the same value of any other 300ZX Turbo with 100K that's in above average shape except those haven't been sitting for 1-2 decades and aren't going to require thousands in repairs.
Unless he got it at the right price, its not justifiable, and while these may be rising in price, his won't be the shining example that ends up on some auction site and goes for record money.
This thing doesn't make sense at all.
That car is just asking for an rb swap. Dirty little girl.
I have to admit: it's getting really old with all the exotics on every TH-cam channel.
While the exotic cars are really neat to see and daydream about, these everyday type of drivers from back in the day connect on a whole different level. There is a level of nostalgia with something like the 280ZX and the 300ZX. People like me actually knew people that drove a car like this. While hardly any of us ever knew anybody that owned a Lamborghini or a Ferrari or any other high-end exotic.
The one thing that's really crappy is that everybody seems to think that all TH-cam viewers want to do is view only the cars they made posters for.
agree 100%
I think they have their place for sure. Hoovie strikes the perfect balance for me, it’s neat seeing some older super cars, but it’s neater still seeing some mint affordable and lower end luxury cars too.
Had an exotic car. Worst thing I ever bought, impractical as all fuck. Was finicky and temperamental and I was always afraid to drive it anywhere far away cause I just couldn’t fully trust it 100 percent. Sold it back in September last year and I was glad I did. Had it for 20 years and drove it less and less cause it was getting old. The final draw came when the catalytic converter started to fail and it kept throwing a code PO-420 that and having moved and loosing my place to keep it didn’t help either. Sure I’ll miss my 911 turbo but I got a good price for it and bought something much more usable
@@matthewcaughey8898 Exotic as mayonnaise
The main reason I stopped watching this channel regularly. This is the first video I’ve watched in months because I saw thumbnail and the car interested me. Now I see he’s not even going to keep it. Oh well, back on the don’t watch list.
Definitely would have liked to see that brought back to life. The Ferrari’s are cool and all but this would have really been cool to see.
I’m actually tired of seeing all the Exotics and their endless issues; I’d rather see the Wizard fix something like this and get it sorted out
This is more a car for the Wizard’s TH-cam channel. But the Wizard said last week that he does not want to deal with long term projects anymore. May be they both agreed to take a pass on this one.
I’ve found myself watching less and less here and more or Sam, Elliot, JR and always the best LegitStreet Cars (Alex) for more real cars
absolutly mate, black and gold 80's OG.
I bought the car, itll be restored, dont worry. The 8k estimate is maybe fine to get someone to do everything (and still pretty high imo), but degraded parts and a turbo rebuild (its just an old Garrett t3 and can be upgraded) are under 3k. Someone asked me to do some YT vids on it and I may try some as I restore.
Out of all of the cars he has had, I'm quite surprised and disappointed that he didn't opt to repair this car.
Hey at least he reviewed it. it wasn't meant to be, he impulse bought it and most of his hoopties don't go that steep with repair bills.
The cut wires in the engine are from the Nissan recall/service campaign for the fuel injectors in the 1990's. The injectors and wires were known to catch on fire, so Nissan fixed it by issuing a patch harness amongst other items to be replaced. Since the injectors batch fire, it was easier to cut the four other injector leads, cap them off, and run the injectors off two injector leads only. The recall patch harness can be identified by the two yellow stripes on the fuel injector harness seen in the video.
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You are correct sir. Factual and to the point.
I feel bad for Hoovie, If I knew him I would have helped him fix the essentials like the turbo and timing belt for really cheap.
It's basically a turbo Maxima and those 3000 engines are simple.
I replaced 3 of them in my 90 maxima and they are definitely not hard to work on.
It would have been cool to see that car live again.
@@StealthyWolfDaddyWerewolf On these 300ZXs like this I have been reading up on rebuilding the turbo and the replacements needed, is it true you are better off pulling the engine out entirely if it needs lots of rubber/seal replacements and turbo work? I actually bought this car from Kamal, and I have an engine hoist, but people are all over the place on forums whether to go that far or not. Parts have been much cheaper to order than I thought (gpopshop has proper carbon seal T3 rebuild kits for 100 bucks lol) but reading up on how to get to everything has a lot of conflicting info. Plus if I go as as far as pulling the engine I can do some other stuff like replace the clutch easier. Its my first Z and full resto, so im doing everything right the first time, no shortcuts.
@@dentron9885 Not sure if you want to tear it down to a short block and do all the seals.
If I were you I would start with the turbo first and make sure you don't end up breaking exhaust studs.
Your best bet is to change the oil and examine for metal in oil and filter before anything to make sure the turbo did not shoot out all the oil and kill the motor or bearings.
If you have broken exhaust / manifold studs then it's like you kinda have to remove the heads if you can't get em out.
I would change the oil, replace the turbo and get it able to rev / operate "gently" and properly first.
You don't want to rev it hard and be cautious of the timing belt, maybe remove the cover first just to make sure it is not super bad.
Then if it comes back to life do the timing belt the 2 cam seals main seal and water pump. Then drive it for a little bit gently to see if it's leaking oil or acting / sounding strange.
Be sure to mark the cams and crank teeth to the belt on the old one and mark match it to the new belt then put it on. Be sure you have a good paint pen for metal. It's interference so marking teeth precisely is essential.
I suggest Castrol engine oil only, I use magnatec or the sludge clean depending on how it looks each oil change or if it's got buildup from cheap oil.
You can remove the motor and put all the parts on it, but if you can get the turbo changed and do the timing belt. It might be worth it to see if the clutch is working right and just do a few things at a time if it needs it.
I don't know if the oil pan is harder to get off because of a brace or anything.
But it could be a nightmare if you were to redo all the seals then the head gaskets went bad or something happened before you.
Also do the thermostat.
I blew my first 3000 engine running it while overheating bad thermostat and it popped everything.
The second crate engine had a rod knock later
The 3rd engine on the other maxima was from a used automatic and ran fine.
Sold that car and got another.
My last Maxima engine in different car had a head gasket issue with overheating going up hills. Had to keep the thermostat out with no issues.
So all that being said if you can change the turbo with no issues and get it running.
Do the timing belt thermostat water pump and drive it for a while.
Then once you get to know the car you can decide if you need other seals, head gaskets .etc.
I think that car had 100 something k on it. So it shouldn't need alot.
Then if you need to do head gaskets .etc.
You can remove everything and know you are not trying to revive something that's really bad.
Driving on a bad turbo can lead to oil loss, engine air mixture issues .etc.
I have had to learn the hard way that anything metal in the oil means immediately checking the rod bearings along with the engine has to operate properly and sound good before tearing it down to a short block and redoing all the seals.
The Maxima heads can warp too, so compression tests are important.
For the timing belt, just remove the radiator and do it from ontop or below.
It is kinda more fun when you have one issue at a time than all in one.
I do the slow process on my own vehicles nowadays and it makes it more fun and teaches you what kind of impact that bad part was doing to say handling braking shifting .etc.
Things like this are my favorite part of this channel. The exotics are great and everything but I think the older more obscure cars are much more interesting. That being said it's very disappointing that this one isn't getting fixed. Hope to see more cars like this in the future.
And more relatable and achievable to 99% of the audience I bet
@@Barton_Motors_Ltd I considered buying an 87 turbo last year, so for sure relatable.
This was a car to save!!!!!!!
I love watching your channel but to say no to such an iconic ZX is just down wrong. This is the foundation of your channel of saving vehicles that no one thinks about.
Save the Nissan!!!!!!!
I own the same ‘80s era Z31 300ZX Turbo since new. Those cut wires were from a recall where they replaced the fuel injectors and had to replace the wiring. They all look as if they are “cut”. Feel free to ask any ECU questions as these cars are complicated to getting running right. There are lots of little tricks and the ECU error codes are misleading.
It would have been awesome to see the whole loom get redone, the distributor deleted and a haltech to run the car better than it ever was.
Hey I bought the car, and tried to give you my email but YT keeps deleting the comment, what is a good way to contact you
You should have done a full resto on this one. What a cool car that you hardly see in nice shape anymore. Saddened that you are letting this one go!
I agree with Maxmilian. This was the one you restore. It would've been nice to see this in great condition.
Hoovie 4 years ago would have loved to restore this car. Maybe he would have wrenched on it himself. This is a dream barn find. No rust, runs and drives. Suspension, tune up and turbo are the definition of LUCKY to only need work. This was a lame shot for views. probably scripted and planned from the beginning. He has no intention to restore this beauty.
I love z cars but hell. Throwing your money away and he’s thrown enough a way lately .
He's not that keen on Asians, except for his wife.
@@acertainshape ha!
I never comment on your videos, Tyler. I love your content. But This seriously a missed opportunity. The Japanese car scene has a huge following and putting 8 to 10k into this to get it where it needs to be isn't that bad. Every youtuber has a Ferraris and Lamborghini cars. This Nissan is an absolute gem.
Surprised by this.
I would rather have a cool car like this then fixing issues on a endless BMW
Yes and it would of stayed fixed for a long time. Not like todays junk
With a body that rust-free underneath I'd definitely consider fixing her. I don't know how common these are in the US, but this side of the pond most have rusted away by now, and that alone makes them pretty rare. Wouldn't have been your worst decision to have this one fixed.
i can say i've seen two and neither were twin turbsky models, very very rare over here
I've never seen a turbo in the wild here in CA, only on online listing for sale in some random town way out there in farm country. Prolly a sign of the turbo models reliability. I'd be down to own a non turbo model just for the looks.
Here in the states if you live in the Northern states you getting rust ,but Southern cars rust free
I live in SW Florida and these Z31's are getting rarer and more expensive almost monthly it seems... Wish I still had the 5 I previously owned. Hoovie is extra dumb for letting this go. I would like to pursue buying it myself for nearly that price.
@@RollinwithRoland Well, this isn't the smartest automotive channel in all of TH-cam...
To me, this is far more interesting than just another Ferrari or Lambo. The 80's Japanese stuff is getting hot and that car will easily be worth the $13k you'll have into it and more. Would have been great content as well.
I agree, there are so many cool unique Japanese cars from the 80s
C'mon Hoovie This car is exactly the type thing that built the channel. You've got to do this one!
It seriously is, and he gives up... So W E A K, and L A M E.
@@RollinwithRoland It’s a garbage car-I hope he doesn’t.
@@niagra898, you're just as much of a fool if you think so.
That is a truly cool car. I know all the fancy exotics are popular but to me that thing is a lot cooler.
Exotics are lame... This car is not
My first car was a Z32. This is close enough to make me very happy
It’s sad that i NO Mexicans at the Top… I review weed products on my TH-cam channel.. tryna make it out the hood, maybe i can change it.
@@SevenHunnid wow you're so cool bro
Agree, it is sad Hoovie didn’t rescue this hooptie. But I guess it is the dumbest automotive channel on TH-cam so getting rid of this beauty fits the description. 😂😔
I’m with a lot of these people, that car would actually be worth saving, nobody cares about the junk Ferrari or the ML63, but this would actually be a cool car
I’m actually shocked he said no to fixing this car. He always has them fixed and spends more than they are worth in many cases.
Except this would be worth more all fixed than what he would have into it.
Well depending how much he got it for he may not be upside down. The turbo Zs go for a lot of money these days, whether people are actually buying them at the high price may be a different story but they're definitely listed high.
Prob has something lined up and the money is needed for that/
He's finally growing up haha
I remember being in high school and drooling over an '85 exactly like this one- same color even- brand new in the lot. Tyler's breaking my heart passing this one up,
Hoovie, I’m sure you’ve already looked at the values of these cars but in case you didn’t, I just checked Hagarty. The average value for an ‘85 300 ZX turbo in good condition is $18,500. Considering you paid $5000 for it and your friends and family discount with the Wizard let’s you get what it needs done for $8500, you’re still ahead by $5000.
I would not have hesitated to get this car fixed up right with everything she needs. She’s a beauty. These are ever more rare as time goes in because, especially those from rust belt areas of the country, they completely rotted away by now. Or younger kids got a hold of them when they were cheap but still in working order and completely thrashed them to death or wrapped them around telephone poles.
Also, 1985 is the first year Nissan discarded the Datsun nameplate in America, so this can be considered a first year nameplate. Which dies add to its value a little.
If I could get the discount Wizard gives you for everything it needs, I would offer to buy it from you right now for what you paid and have Wizard do the project. You should seriously reconsider this project.
Yep, Hoovie was extra foolish in this endeavor...
You'de be hard pressed to get 18k from anyone in the z community to buy that. Heck, i can't even find a buyer for my classic 78 280z with a price of 15k
My heart's with you on this but my head tells me $13.K only gets you a mechanically sound car based on known issues. Hoovie needs to consider the inevitable unseen ones plus some money to get the interior up to snuff. Supply chains aren't going to get any better in the short run and this car could be a resident in the Wizard's garage for 6-12 months. Tyler maybe thought I can make a lot more in far less time on another vehicle. Still it would be a cool build.
Sounds reasonable except those Hagarty cars are in much better shape. That 8 grand is only mechanical. After that there's all the cosmetic which could be another 8 grand easy. Totally upside down on a cool runner but that's it. If this was your dream car then it might be worth it, otherwise stay far away!
It’s possible you might be a bit optimistic in your pricing. Hagarty has those valued at $9500 in good condition. Last value update January 2022.
This was the coolest car you've gotten in a really long time, this channel has really changed #BringTheRealHooptiesBack
And it's gone
My buddy already bought the car lmao
I wanted to see this one revived !
After he got the Mercedes SLS I remember him talking about returning to the early days of the channel and trying to do more unique cheaper hoopties, and he seemed to be on that track for a bit, but it does seem like he has gone back to pricier cars. What cheaper hoopties he does buy, he only has one or two videos on before never talking about them again or getting rid of them. I do understand that the market has changed and cars from the 80s and 90s, at least unique ones, have gone up in price. It would still be nice to see, though, instead of the basic cheap luxury, expensive classics, and exotic cars.
Yeah it has I remember when it used to be relatable then about the time he bought the new house it started changing. I get it though, it's still amusing to have a car salesman try to convince me that German cars are great cars.🤣😂🤣😂
I need to agree with some others, it’s a Japanese Ferrari and once repaired it would be super reliable. It’s worth saving.
This is kamal ,I sold the car to hoovie and I bought it back, it is going to a good home a gentleman that have always wanted one and he is going to spend money on it and bring it back to the shape it deserves.
Good luck John
But we wont be able to watch that happen so it still sucks
Well that’s good at least. Maybe all these comments will wake hoovie up to the type of content we all want to see
You're a righteous man Kamal. Thanks for getting this unicorn into the right hands.
KAMAL ,please make a video on this car ,trust md it worth its wsight in video gold !!!!
I would have paid the 8 grand and had a nice, refreshed Z car.
I truly love that body style, which has been forgotten a bit by the two that buffer it. Do it justice
Tyler, I love your channel, but I have to agree with so many others that this was a car that I would've loved to see the Wizard make right. I haven't seen one in several years until this video actually. It's possible this car is cooler than even you believe it is. Thanks for at least showing it to us. But our hearts are broken, brother.
When he said no to fixing it, my soul felt itself crumble to pieces.The dissapointment...the heartbreak...THE PAIIIIINNNNN 😫😫😫
I really wanted to see this ZX restored 🥺😞 Euros and supercars are nice, but it's all there is on big car channels.
This is why Hoovie is the dumbest channel in all of youtube
dawg.... i NEVER say this, but please completely restore this one, new hoses, wires, the works. this is one of them "needs to be saved" cars. its just to good of an example to bastardize and its 100% the specs people want, turbo + stick
My buddy already bought this car and he's for sure gonna restore this car. It's his dream car and he actually tried to buy it a year ago. Now he's got a down payment on it and it will be shipped to him soon
@@lightdot459 does he have a TH-cam channel? I'm a Z31 nut, and was so excited to see Hoovie get one, and then upset when he decided to immediately get rid of it. I want to see it brought back to life!
@light dot let him know about the open recall on it. It's actually pretty important.
@@VintageandVoltage, same here and I WANT THE CAR! I currently have an '86 Turbo GLL 5-speed I'm restoring with the Burgundy/Burgundy and Digi-dash combo. Hoovie a fool for letting this one go... @light dot, I second homeboy's channel request on the restore. I would definitely sub and watch that series many times.
@@VintageandVoltage Its me, but I'm not advertising too much about it, I really haven't done any YT recording and stuff, but I could give it a go. I am gonna be restoring the car back to original condition (only thing that may have to go is the fancy electronic shocks since those seem to be unobtainium these days, and normal adjustable replacements are dirt cheap, but ill keep an eye out if some show) It'll be shipped to me in about a month from Kamal, and im already planning parts list for full rubber and degraded component replacement, rev issue is due to MAF, new thermostat, new hoses, etc. Being rust free and not messed with I couldnt pass it up for the price. Itll be my first car resto and I plan on doing it right. Also the 'cut' wiring is from the injector recall and isnt actually missing anything engine wise.
I agree, man. Anybody can go out and buy a newer exotic, but some of these older cars get wayyyy more attention and are super fun drivers.
Love this car so damn much. My father had a 1984 Datsun 300zx Turbo with a 5 speed. It was beige. When I first heard about this car I fell completely in love with it. I don't find many good YT videos on them as they are very underrated, so I'm very glad that you guys are giving this car the attention it deserves!
Doesn't appear to be any rust at all. That alone makes this an excellent buy, IMO.
Right?!?! He's a fool for letting this go.
Such a shame you’re not keeping it, I think it was worth spending on it
I had a 1986 Nissan Bluebird (Stanza I think in the US) that had sat for around 15 years, just started right up on stale fuel, on the second turn of the key. Didn't drive out as the clutch had seized, but once it had freed off, what a wonderful, light, smooth action, all controls were perfectly weighted. Puts many more modern cars to shame!
Be aware due to the storage there is an outstanding recall on it. It was replacing the fuel injectors and injector wiring harnesses on it. Used to work for Nissan and did LOTs of them.
Can you imagine taking it to a dealer and trying to get it done? They've got no parts catalogue for something this old now.
@Newcious NO Minecraft shit here kid
Correct. There is a mandatory recall on the fuel injection system. Every car should have it done. If there is no record of it having been done, the dealer must replace several parts the fuel injection system AT NO COST. The car will spray fuel across the top of the motor and catch fire otherwise. Good for views, not for the longevity of a car that most definitely should be saved. I owned one (non turbo), a family member had a turbo version. They are amazing cars. If it isn't rusty that car is worth saving. Swap out the adjustable suspension (there are kits for this). It is expensive and prone to failure.
Don't let this one go hoovie.
@@paristrout8469 I had a metallic blue with blue interior 85 Turbo manual and had the recall work done in like 2001 or 2002. The service manager literally gave me the “you’re kidding right?” face. However it had never been done so they did it.
@@popejohnny5 Ha. When I took mine in, I had already redone most of the car. I had pulled the motor, replaced the exhaust, cold air intake, electric cooling fans, etc. I had also gotten 3rd party distributor, cap and rotor, that had a lifetime guarantee.
Took the car in for the recall. Ran like a top, sounded better, smoked the tires. 2 days later went to pick it up. Pulled it out of the service department, drove around the building, and brought it right back into the service department. Ran like shit.
Argued with the dealer for DAYS. their response was "it runs fine for a car of its age". Multiple times. Long story short, I told them it felt/sounded like a misfire (after driving it for .1miles). Asked them to check the distributor, it was common for idiots to wack it with a ratchet handle and crack it when working on the motor. Told them not to replace it if its bad, because I had a lifetime warranty. He calls me back 2 hours later. "Hey your distributor was cracked, we replaced it, and it runs great." Of course they threw away the cap I had.
I f'ing hate dealers.
I have to agree with everyone else I am quite surprised that you didn’t decide to fix this up.
I have personally owned a 1984 300ZX and an 85. Awesome cars! And a great engine! Not to mention the secondary market on these cars in this kind of condition you would’ve easily gotten your money back out of it.
They're great...when they've been driven. I didn't hear "replace every rubber gasket" on that itemized list, so I'm sure that $10,000 is closer to the actual cost of that restoration.
@@jessebrook1688 Looking at prices of them right now he still would have gotten his money back. Not to mention the TH-cam moneys... too bad :(
I love those cars but he already paid retail value for it. To put another $8000 in a car worth $4-6k is just ridiculous. Hoovie really needs to start doing some of his own repairs. He has good knowledge of how to do basic things. He would save a ton.
$5k to buy and $10k or so to fix. 80s Japanese sports cars are going way up in price. Our 89 Supra turbo has gone from maybe $8k pre pandemic to around $20k now.
I was really hoping to see a Japanese car make its way to the channel again since it's been so long. I'm with the others here in saying I love the exotics but find a car like this to be a little more interesting.
Properly built, properly designed superb.
Unlike modern nissans
Are you forgetting about the r35
@@ericgraham454 In England we can do a lot better for 85 thousand pounds.
Nissan here are considered a bit low rent...like buying a renault...cvt transmission and tiny diesels.
It's a crying shame
@@jeremyaustin9103 That's because Renault and Nissan are partners and share the same engines and transmissions.
Their trucks and non CVT SUVs along with the Z are pretty solid.
@@JonMichaelDeShazer exactly... exactly why I wouldn't choose to buy one.
This would’ve been a great content to watch. I’m with everyone, should’ve fixed it and the car wizard can make a profit on top of fixing the car as well by just documenting the restoration on his TH-cam channel which I’m sure a lot of us is also subscribed to
Agree entirely - so many automotive You Tubers thoughtlessly discard what made them appealing in the first place - their success seems to be their undoing....or is it that they become slaves to their sponsors? I wish they'd listen to their subscribers and keep the good stuff coming; if it ain't broke, why disappoint your audience with boring self-indulgence on exotics?
Missed opportunity to restore an 80’s icon. I owned an 85 turbo with the digital dash, regret selling back in 95. It was getting looks from drivers back then. Hoovie, please reconsider a restoration of this amazing car. You will get your money back, lots of views and the car will keep you company as she chats about doors being open.
That ZX is so cool, in amazing condition for it's age. Most of those repairs are age related, just expensive because they all need doing at once instead of over the lifetime of the vehicle!
Such a cool iconic car of the 80's, would have loved seeing this returned back to it's former glory!
This is the love this car needed. So glad to see you get one. My dad passed two years ago and left me his 86 and can’t wait to get her on the road.
join a Z31 group. I got my 3rd Z31 from a junkyard.
I'm an American muscle lover, but I love those old Nissan 300ZXs
Right!
Honestly I'd love to see this car fixed up. These old japanese cars are just so cool. Maybe a restomod would be something to look into, at least suspension and the turbo?
Yeah I'm with you, I would be cool to see a car I could ever conceivably own on here again
He didn’t have to go with stock shocks. Could have went with quality KYB or Koni’s saved $500 there.
I just bought an 87 turbo myself and it has become my first real project car. I absolutely love it, I feel like it is such an underrated car
Hoovie finally buys a car I'm really interested in... Hoovie goes completely out of character and doesn't drop loads of money into fixing it.
You should of at least done the Turbo and the wiring to make it run right.
My buddy already bought this car and it's gonna be shipped to him soon. He'll rebuild the turbo
No Minecraft shit here kid ^^
I checked the price of the Turbo and found them rebuilt for $500.00... The wizard needs to watch his suppliers.
Even with that big bill, having her returned to her former glory, she would've been worth much more than you invested. The price of these classic Z's has been going through the roof lately. Sad that you aren't keeping her, but I guess it's better for the channel to keep "premium" brand cars that repeatedly break down on you.
How many miles? How much did it cost? 10k to do all that and seat repair and a full detail. Yes please.
Hoovie - THIS is the car I’d want to see videos on. Not yet another busted M-B or Ferrari. Give us GenX 80s kids some love.
I remember driving these in the early 90’s. They where amazing cars. So much cooler than the stuff you’ve been doing recently on this channel. Very sad your not saving this one, it is the perfect spec.
It is the perfect spec, and the kind of car that built the channel. I am hugely disappointed in both Hoovie and Wizard for passing on this beauty. I was SO EXCITE for this car seeing it in the background of older videos for weeks... Big mistake on their end.
Hoovie, please save this Car! The fact that it is moving under it's own power is a testament, listen to the nice lady in the dashboard.
This is an incredible car. It really needs saving - either by yourself or someone else
He wouldn't know which car to save if it ran his ass over. Done with this channel.
Hoovie, I have been following you since you had about 20 000 followers and I loved the channel. It's great that you can afford your dream cars.... but don't forget what makes your channel great! Greetings from Germany!
He forgot that a long time ago...
@@ILOVEBACONBOY2018 isn’t he the guy who bought a corvette, mustangs, vans, suburbans, and much more. He still buys regular or non exotics, but what’s wrong with buying the exotics as well if he enjoys them?
I like when Hoovie shows us his quirky self. Like the cute skits and movie references. Not acting to try and be awkward or screwy necessarily on purpose, but just the general cool and different quirky type of guy that he is. For instance his 80s public access style music intro. A lot of his weird and cool taste has been diluted as he has dubbed himself the "Dumbest". He's not dumb, he's nostalgic, different, and has interesting taste for things and details many others overlook.
@@watchreport He can do whatever he wants, just know that most of us don't give a crap about which Lambo or Farrari he's fixing anymore. It's become old and boring.
I would have liked to see this get fixed. Its more interesting to me than the exotic stuff.
TH-cam is full of guys fixing up Ferraris and Lambos now.
The first car I bought with my own money was a 300zx. Loved that car. Seeing the car you’ve bought brings back such great memories!
The Fairlady is actually very much worth saving. You'll be shocked at the values once she's all squared up. We're losing more and more each day, this one deserves a resto. I hope someone with the means will treat her right.
You bought a Z31 Turbo! My favorite car, I own 5 currently and have owned way more than that. Well worth saving , one of the coolest cars out there for the money. The tech in the 84 GLL was amazing for the time, especially the digital gauges. No surprised it started with fuel system clean, I have gotten dozens to work the same way after years of sitting. They are so well built that it won't take much to get back to life, rust will be the determining factor. But it looks clean, too bad you are selling it back. Disappointed. All those items listed are expected for the car of this age, but not at once. It's actually worse to get a car that's been sitting for years because no one has replaced or maintained anything on it. Most z31's you'd buy right now would have had alot of those parts replaced by now.
Agreed Gary! I owned 5 previously that I wish I had kept... just recently acquired an '86 Turbo GLL 5-Speed Digi-Dash that I'm currently restoring. Every power option/dash still works! Some of the best built cars EVER!
I finally see something on this channel that would make sense to throw money at.... A very nice rust free 300 z, which are a dieing breed and soon to be unobtainable. Please do this car hoovie
Sounds like this car needed a straight up rebuild from the ground up. Definitely a project for an 80s/90s car enthusiast.
It's a pain in the ass to find 80s parts better off just buying a nice model from the start
what would be the fun in that?
@@Rose.Of.Hizaki you can actually drive the damn thing lol
@@MrMister1227 you can drive it. after you finish rebuilding it. Its called a _'project car'_
i had an 84 turbo 5 speed, most reliable car i've ever owned. i loved that car! i paid $800 for it from the original owner. pretty much the same deal, dropped the tank and reconnected the fuel pump, fired right up. sat from 1996 to 2015. body was immaculate, same with paint and interior. my turbo wasn't locked up though, 209k miles as well
Please restore this one, it deserves to be part of Hoovies fleet. Such a cool vehicle.
My friend has an original 2900 mile manual 300zx that sat for 30 years and runs, we have emailed you about it if you are interested.
If he isn’t I am !!
Im interested.
Put it on cars and bids
I think he only likes broken vehicles haha
It's cool that it has such low miles but if it's been sitting idle for 30 years I'm sure it'll need at least half of what the one in the video needed. Of course it would be worth doing the work considering mileage wise it's basically new.
The 300 is one of my favorite from my teenage years. As much as I love the Ferrari’s and such early Japanese sports cars will always have a special place in my heart.
1 in a million!!! Please save this one. Highly wanted in Europe and probably Asia!
C'mon Tyler, we don't watch the channel for GOOD financial decisions. This is the hooptie rescue mission we all need. Fix the Z. We know you want to.
I really wanna see this fixed! More cool old Japanese cars on this channel Tyler!!!
I’m not even a huge fan of these but I would have loved to see this saved. Like, a lot.
Love this so much more than the supercars! Like seeing real, obtainable cars!
You're in for disappointment
Oh man i love these old sportcars! Loving the retro styling and technics. Hope to see it driving soon
Watch the end of the video
@Newcious No Minecraft shit here kid
Loved this so much, I see so little of the Z31’s. And with me starting an 85’ one as a project car soon it’s nice to see they’re still around
A never-ending and confusing stream of German and Italian cars that we are informed are all "special" in some obscure way or another, and then finally he gets a car that most viewers actually *know* what it is…and he gets rid of it.
He never claimed this was the smartest automotive channel on TH-cam. Still, his relentless work to go in the other direction never ceases to amaze me. This decision reeks like the North end of a Southbound skunk.
Yes, yes, yes. I guess we'll see if he reads comments on this. Truth is a whole lot of us have zero interest in Mercedes, BMW, Ferrari and less interest in owning one. Even those who can afford them. I'm 40 now and could easily afford a 355 or 360 but they have no appeal at all to me. They were old guy lame cars when I was younger and my opinion hasn't changed. I'm a domestic guy through and through but when this car was new even I looked over at it at the redlight from my Camaro or Mustang and admired it. Looking over at a 355 or 360 at the same time only brought about thoughts of Bosley and wheel of fortune. Hopefully he'll realize the car's here can't only appeal to him because if a bunch of us bounce he'll be left driving hoopties again.
This was one of those cars I dreamed of owning/driving when I was in high school. It was way out reach, so I ended up with a new V8 Camaro. I get how you feel when you seen it. Remembering what kind of car it was, then picturing what it could be like again if you spent a little time and money on it. Been there and done that with a few project cars. And I learned. They are money pits, but you also don't get much time behind the wheel, and it is usually always something else broken and leaving it sit. You spend more time under the hood than behind the wheel, and then you just give up. If I had to guess, I would say the wiring mess was someone trying to "un-turbo" the car. Trying to trick the car into thinking there wasn't a turbo on it.
It is kind of heart breaking in the way, but the past is best left in the past.
And the new ones are just not the same at all. I test drove a new convertible since it was well within my reach now, and while it felt like a sport car, it also felt like Nissan just stopped putting an effort into making it something special. Beside that, the check engine light came on during the test drive. I had to tell the dealer I had no interest in a car with less than 100 miles that is already starting it's life with problems.
My 1st car was a 84 300zx non turbo 2+2 with digital gauges. My mom bought the car for 500$ in 95 with 0 rust and 74k miles. What a steal. Only thing I had to replace was the mass airflow sensor, otherwise the car ran great. It always felt way ahead of it's time. Was looking forward to Hoovie fixing this one up!
Nostalgia hitting me hard on this one, especially the voice. This was my first car when I was 16 right down to the color combo, but I had the digital dash and the 16" corvette style wheels. suffice to say that I totaled it 5 months after getting it (canadian winters suck!). loved it so much that I got it again as my 2nd car, but 2+2 and auto. sad to hear that I won't get to see more of it on your channel.
Disappointed, Hoovie. This is the type of stupid investment that made this channel what it is. That car sorted out, and detailed to perfection would be so awesome. Much cooler than the exotics you've become obsessed with because your average viewer may actually come across an old Z car and purchase it, as opposed to buying a Ferrari that needs work which 95% of us won't ever do.
Should have kept the car. A series of this thing being restored would have been awesome.
When I saw this in Wizard's Garage I was really hoping it was yours! Absolute nostalgia machine of the 80's!
Was excited to see this car on the channel, would definitely have been a cool car to add to the collection.
My first car was an 89 240sx that had a 92 300zx drivetrain, suspension and brakes... It was a rocket ship...! 3.0L(non-turbo), 5-speed and 4-wheel disc...a 16 year old probably shouldn't have had it, but I did...! Thanks, keep up your awesomeness and go enjoy some nature today...
Wow, I would have fixed that car! That car is a classic...and Turbo! My friend had a non-turbo back when I was in High School and till this day I have never been in any car that cornered so well! I almost want to buy that car! That body is straight too, no rust, no dings. A new paint job would make that car real nice!
It's 100% worth saving!! The Electronic voice system is incredibly rare and the remaining number of cars left with it is unknown.
Both of mine has bitchin betty. Thats what she's called
Also agree this should be brought back to life, sounds like a nice project car for Jarred or Freddie
That's a shame, was looking forward to seeing this one done. All the super car stuff leaves me cold now.
I suspect this is one of those cases where sure, he'd get maybe 3 videos out of the fixing of it, but then it'll just work and it'll be neglected. Probably the best fiscal plan for this channel, though I do echo the sentiment that it'd be really cool to see it live properly again.
Best for the wizard to, he doesnt make much money of hoovie when he brings crap. wizard and hoovie have a expensive car deal and without it the wizards shop would be hurting without hoovies fuckups with the higher ends, this is why hes not fixing this car, just not worth the wizards rate to money ratio
Hey Tyler, your fan base really wants you to bring this “Hooptie” back to life. Give em’ what they want. When finished it would be a great contest give away car or Hoovies Garage auction.
Please reconsider your decision.
The NA 944 had 20-80 fewer HP depending on the year and model, the early 944 Turbo had about 217 rated hp and the last few years 247.
The 944 Turbo was also 130kg lighter and nearly 2 seconds faster 0-60.
that is an awesome car, would love to see it brought back to life! These things are climbing in value and a pretty much rust free example is rare
Problem is what it would be worth vs what your putting into it. I had the option to buy a bitter SC in a similar type of situation. I passed because parts were nigh on impossible to find for it and given how long it sat I would be needing to have the trans rebuilt, with no calipers available I would have to rebuild those, the steering rack and other stuff. When the car is a few years old it’s not so bad. When it’s 25 to 40 years old finding parts for it can be an exercise in aggravation
I bought a 1988 2+2 out of 16 years of storage, had 91,000+ miles on it. Analog dash, controls in steering wheel. The used car people foolishly started it up without clearing out the old fluids, but it ran. I bought it cheap to get it off his lot, spent some money replacing things here and there, and it's my daily driver. Fantastic car, drives like a dream local or highway, sounds awesome in it's natural state as designed. Had to find an older mechanic who doesn't depend on modern car computer. Always get's admiring looks and comments, lots of people have fond memories of it. Incredible Nissan abandoned this model, people would buy it today.
Tyler, I agree with the other's, this is the type of restoration we want to see! If a couple thousand of us buy a t-shirt, that should cover most of the repair. Please reconsider!
This the kind of Hoovie content I love realistic everyday cars!
Better watch the whole video
I had a 79 Datsun/Nissan 280zx loved that car it was navy blue. Had the 5 point rims on it. Inline 6 5sp manual, fuel injected. Custom stereo in it. Lots of innovation for a car made when I was 6 years old. Glad to hear someone is going to fix this old girl back up to her original glory even if it will not be documented on video.
Of course its too much to pay a shop to fix all at once. This is the kind of job that a guy does on his own time with his own hands as parts are sourced from more affordable options. The body is great and the paint and interior are nice. No reason this car won't be a great driver again for the right person.
Yeah. If you were a tinkerer and doing it yourself, then you're looking at 3-4 grand and your time. The cavaet is that their are a lot of "fun" cars of that era you could be in for the same kind of $$$.
I would say yes to the Wizard. The body was straight and rust free. Then a few more thousand to clean up the cosmetics. $15,000 in for a car that surely is worth $25,000 or so. Sounds good to me.
That is what I was thinking he paid 5k and then he was going to fix it for 10k plus the paint Wich could be another 3k , I think he really didn't liked the car .
I had a silver 1984 300ZX turbo…with the factory hood scoop….was quite a head-turner in the day. Very reliable car.
I had an 83 280zx and one of these in the mid 90s. Both were fun cool cars. Was amazing how nice they were for the period. My 300zx even had the digital dashboard which at the time was way cool.
For all of the deferred maintenance on this car that estimate isn’t that bad really and I suspect since it sat for so long it needs quite a few gaskets as well. And had it not sat for so long I’d guess at least a couple of items may not have gone south such as the turbo and the steering rack and power steering pump. Sitting for extended periods is bad for any car. I see a lot of Ferraris that suffer from similar issues because they sat. I remember an old boss of mine bought a Ferrari 512tr that had sat for 6 years that had an almost 6 figure repair bill mostly from sitting.
While I understand where hoovie is coming from on this car it’s sad to see one that is a survivor in that good of shape not be “restored”.
Finally a popular fella on TH-cam makes my car valuable! It was either you or Doug! Thanks Hoovie
I'm kind of disappointed. I would have loved to see this car brought back to life. Don't get me wrong, i love Ferrari's and all, but, that 300ZX is the kind of car in my reach, and with the apparent lack of rust, it seems to be a great project car. Definitely deserves a restoration.
It's nice to see you doing this type of car little less expensive little more unique not all of us can afford Lamborghinis 🤣
Unfortunately....
Don’t put your wagon in front of the horse.
I’ve always preferred the Z32s so I wasn’t expecting a lot from this car, but it actually looks really cool.
When I was 16 I had saved up all the money that I have earned I bought an identical version of that car except for it was all white with tan interior and an extra set of fiberglass t-tops that were colored match to the car from California it was absolutely perfect except the motor was blown. I had a nightmare of a time trying to find a motor and couldn't find one for a long time. One day when I pushed it out of the garage and was cleaning it up somebody stopped and offered me stupid money for it the way it sat. I paid $500 for it and sold it for $6,000 in 2002. The guy I sold It to still owns it to this day.
so it wasn't even nearly identical
Omg that's crazy