More than once I’ve had someone say “I wasn’t far from home so I just kept going”. Usually “not far” is about an hour. It’s also usually the people that can’t afford basic maintenance let along a new engine or major repair
If he was driving at a highway, the failure of that hose may not have been as obvious as you think, the temp gauge wouldn't rise much, as there is no longer any coolant, the only indication would be a drop in oil pressure the longer he drove it & possibly a burning smell. I know coz it's happened to me.....but not in a Bentley 😮
I was once just curving in to accelerate at the beginning of the autobahn when I saw a wiff of fog going across my hood. I looked in the rear mirror and saw only a white wall. The cooler had blown. Luckily, I could just keep in the curve and get right off the autobahn again, and even more luck that there also was directly a parking lot. That was just a few hundred meters and maybe a minute, and the engine was already beginning to run rough. I had the spleen to have the cooler repaired (solder the leak), cost as much as a new one, did a nice job with a new mesh and painted black, so my "throw noghing away when you can fix it" conscience was satisfied. Already back then (>20 years ago) this specialist usually only repaired truck coolers. there it was worth it.
His wisdom is correct a used luxury car cheaper to buy.. But mega miles and all the electrical gremlins start to factor in. All those ECUs start to break down.
@@mcmoose64 yeah the used ones all the ECUs go bad on systems on lux cars after 5 year.. End up paying the price and wishing you had manual windows mirrors and central locking. My dad had a high end merc 03 all faults came on. He sold it and said get me a basic no frills toyota base model and he was happy
Reminds me of years ago I needed to put out $2K for a car that wasn't worth more than $4-5K (it was paid off). I decided to fix it and in the end I got another 7-8 years of trouble-free driving. Much cheaper than new car payments for sure.
Wizard recently produced a video on that very topic. The customer needed 2k to fix a Buick that had north of 300k on it. Of course, it featured the venerable 3800 V6, the Wizard's favorite. Cheers.
I truly enjoy your diagnosis on most vehicles. I am a 75 year old retired mechanic, with 40+ years working at GM dealerships. You explain your reasoning quite well.
Many years ago in my youth a friend of mine had the opportunity to buy a Porsche. I think it was a 944 or a 928 pretty cheap. This was the late 80’s and it had a 4 cylinder engine. He brought it to a shop where another friend worked to have it checked out. It was ok shape, no major issues, it did need a lot of tlc from neglect and poor maintenance. I will never forget when another older mechanic sauntered over to take a peek as we’re all looking it over, and said “yes you can afford to buy it, but can you afford to own it?”. He proceeded to inform my friend about the REAL cost. Registration, insurance, specialty parts that have to be imported, who’s gonna work on it, etc. the realization why the car was ok but ratty sank in and the enthusiasm for having a cool sports car quickly dissipated. He bought his grandparents’ 2 year old Buick lesabre with the 3.8 instead, his grandma could no longer drive. Drove it for about 17 years and gave it to his oldest son who drove it all through college. Transmission finally gave out with about 240k miles on it.
Man, what a shame your friend did not have the experience of having a cool ratty old car when he was young. Youth is for having a fun car or two. I heard similar curmudgeon comments when I bought a 911 as a middle aged man. You know what? It was worth it to have a car I loved, not just an appliance for transportation.
@@EdDale44135 you obviously had the means to afford a 911, good for you and I hope you have fun with it. this story is coming from a time when driving a mustang or camaro was all we could afford. My friend later restored a gto and still has it to this day. Yeah sure we all thought it would be cool to own a porsche, who wouldn’t, but raising a family and needing a dependable car over rode that at the time. So we stuck to domestic stuff we could play with on the weekends. None of us could justify spending 300 bucks for brake pads when that was almost a weeks pay and new pads for any gm car was 20. We never gave up on wanting cool rides, we just agreed to have cars we could drive and not sit in the garage for years saving up for parts.
@@jazzventura well, at the time for any of us it was. Parts were just too expensive. We looked up general stuff it needed at the time like plugs and wires, brake pads, rotors, new clutch, tie rod ends, at least one ball joint, and we came up with a number that was almost the cost of the car. This is before factoring in all the other stuff.
Volvo enthusiast here. My current Volvo has 247,000 miles. It's been a faithful and extremely reliable companion. Fuel pressure sensor, engine mount, both axles, and a wheel bearing have been the only repairs. 2016 was the first year of the SPA platform, the 2.0 engine, AND the redesigned XC90. They did have a lot of problems with the rings, as Volvo attempted to use "energy conserving" rings and caused the cars to burn oil. Also, the spark plugs are supposed to be changed at 70k miles. Were they? I've heard of the plug tips falling off and destroying the cylinder. Also, did they use premium fuel? If the car never got a drop of anything other than 87, you're causing a lot of detonation in that engine. Think about it. When you're making 316HP out of a 2.0 liter 4 cylinder, you're doing it by ramming more air pressure in with a turbo and a supercharger. You need higher octane fuel to stand up to the extra heat and pressure. They're good cars, but they require care, maintenance, and attention just like anything else.
Detonation? That would have to be one faulty ECU that permits that with 87 petrol and cant adjust the parameters accordingly.... Nah, more than likely the fuel used had nothing to do with it, at least not regarding detonation.
The T6 version of this engine with both the turbo and supercharger in these requires premium fuel. Not recommends, requires. The T5 turbo only recommends but doesn't require premium.
Most if not all Volvo engines will detune via ECM if you run 87 octane, but EVERY Volvo manual going back to the 850 recommends 91 octane always whether or not the engine is N/A or turbocharged. I would agree that once you are both supercharging and turbocharging with only 2L displacement, you do not want to run anything below what's recommended in the Volvo manuals, that is to say 91 Octane or better. I run 93 octane in my 1998 S70 T5 manual and it runs like a champ and eats up the miles effortlessly. In my '99 V70 N/A 2.4, I ONLY run 91 octane.
I am still daily driving a 1999 Volvo V70 with the 2.4L 5 cylinder. It is BULLETPROOF if maintained. Just turned 421,000km (I'm in Canada) on the factory installed engine and transmission. I am religious about engine & transmission oil changes and check the cooling system regularly. I even tow a 4x12 utility trailer with it regularly. I also own and drive a 1998 S70 T5 (5 cyl high pressure Turbo model) with the 5 speed manual and it is simply one of the best cars I've ever owned and driven. Only 235,000km on that one since I only take it out once a week. Currently also sitting in the driveway is a 1986 Volvo 244DL with 210,000km that I plan to swap an American V8 into soon. Volvo for Life!!
I had a great 200 series Volvo that I dropped a Chevy block into when the engine wore out. Later on, when the body was getting rusted out, I replaced the body with a Ford Taurus.
I drove a 1990 Volvo 740 16 valve 2.3 l to 100 to 1.5 million km. Yes it had rings replaced. It had valves replaced. It had many seals replaced. I drove it 160 km to work everyday for 25 years and then kept it after that when I retired and I just recently sold it for twice what I paid for it in when I bought it
Amen to that! I have a 1998 Volvo V70R AWD, 218K miles, bute beast, goes like train, +/-130/140 mph on German autobahn! Suspension rebuilt all round, Bilstein struts front, Sachs Nivos rear, solid as a rock, no smoke. Religiously regularly serviced/oils changed. Daily motor, had it 8 years and it's good for at least 10 more! 👍😬🇬🇧
It's BS that two tonnes of perfectly good car can be rendered scrap by a small failing in the engine. I hate that things are now so disposable. It's crazy. I'm shopping for a used car right now and the biggest thing in the back of my mind is the cost of repair when something fails. That £2k Mercedes has to run for a couple of years. I can't afford for it to die because of an uneconomical repair. Things were greener in my dad's day. It broke. You fixed it. You didn't fire a parts cannon at it either. You actually fixed the thing that was broken. Cheers, CW. Enjoy the channel.
I have been looking at 1980s newspapers and was surprised how there were national adverts for a chain of shops that would fit a refurbished gearbox in cars like an Allegro for less than £100 and give you a guarantee on it. An engine would only be a couple of £100s. There again by the 1990s a colleague bought an Allegro for about £100 which came with nine months MOT and a full tank of petrol.
Haha greener, people used to shove engine oil down the drain, where the MG plant was the ground is permanently full of toxic crap. You can recycle cars with reasonably low environmental damage.
Sounds like an incident with my mother years ago. She saw the temp gauge spike, she saw the idiot light go on, she saw the steam pouring out from the front of the car....she kept driving. She murdered that old Mercury because she 'didn't feel like stopping'. She spent the next four years bitching that the Olds she ended up with wasn't as nice as that old Marquis.
Sorry that happened. One reason why no one drives my car but me, and another reason why my car has spare upper and lower radiator hoses and a couple gallons of coolant onboard.
A lady friend of mine did her SUV in, when she ignored all the buzzers and lights going off, ignored the smoke & smell..and actually drove even faster trying to get to her destination. Women! Can't live with them and can't live with them!😅
My mum took me with her for a visit to one of her friends one night, and when we went to leave the upper radiator hose decided to split. So I whipped out my trusty multitool, unscrewed the clamp, cut the hose back beyond the split section (fortunately it was only on the end) and reattached it. Tipped in some more water and we were good to go again.
On my 96 Windstar 3.8l the strain relief clamp holding the heater hose came loose causing the plastic fitting on the engine to snap off. Right away I started to fix it. So I glued it back together with some kind of super plastic glue and covered it with epoxy. It held for several years until the rest of the van was finished and I scrapped it. I found the Windstar to be a great vehicle and still miss it.
As an Arnage owner here in the UK, it's sad to see this one is dead. Although I have to admit, I'd love to see this one live on with a crazy engine swap!
@Sonofsun001 he does but US parts labour prices are insane this in UK would probably maybe £2-3 to put it right. So it does make sense that 30k its not worth fixing
@@Thanos.mthis is true, I consume a lot of car related content in the UK and vs USA, labor cost is drastically hugher here, (local Texas BMW dealer here is $260 an hour) and we have fewer shops competent enough to handle actual mechanical work.
@@bck0001 My local BMW dealers here in the UK are currently charging £205 per hour (roughly $258), so pretty much the same. When the head gaskets and a few other minor jobs needed replacing on my Arnage - the bill was over £9,000 (Circa $11,340) at an independent specialist six years ago! We are lucky to have a number of great specialist all around the UK that are willing to look after all types of classic cars, so finding somebody to look after your car isn't too difficult, but I wouldn't say it's ever considerably cheaper than the USA etc...
Quite possibly. Raise your rate and if your current employer won't pay up find a different one. Its also a byproduct of a 50 year campaign by primary education to kill the trades as a life income choice. Less tradesmen plus tons of work equals good wages.
I used to know a lady who found a "bargain" Rolls Royce Corniche(?). Long story short, she bought a Rolls Royce that needed quite a bit of work. The car she bought sat for many years in her carport! She did not realize that owning a Rolls Royce brought along very expensive parts to repair. Even when the Rolls dealer offered her a discount on repairs she could NOT afford basic repairs the car required. I felt bad for her but she should have known better regardless!
Yup, the only way to own and maintain a Rolls somewhat "cheaply" is if you're a seasoned mechanic with access to reasonably priced parts, therefore pretty much only possible (and still very rare) in the UK.
I’d make the rolls electric. It’s already so heavy, replacing the engine with a battery pack would make little difference. Then you’d have the silent powerful experience the rolls driver desires. And let’s face it, they aren’t road tripping the rolls, just going to the country club.
So much truth in these videos; when I taught automotive, this was the hardest concept to convey. 1) It costs money to go down the road; it is not a right but a privilege. 2) Understanding when to walk away from a losing proposition is a painful but necessary lesson; most times, the owner has someone screaming in his ear (spouse or otherwise) that they know from some friend's 3rd cousin's boyfriend that that same issue is only a $400 fix, and that is all they will pay. . .then it ends up sitting on the garage's lot for months. It amazes me that you haven't suffered from burnout!
Hello, a lifetime Volvo owner. I have driven several Volvos which went over 200,000 to 400,000 miles on them and were still running . One of them went AT Least 500,000 miles in not sure because the odometer stopped at 400,000 for the second time . As long as you change oil, and maintain them, the Volvos las forever!!!
@@Gary7even He's great but everybody's allowed a slip up now and then and compared to say some leading politicians my BS alarm doesn't go off every 30 seconds.
The Volvo owner should sell the old bad engine to Erik from "I Do Cars". It would make for a great video! David and Erik could even do a collaboration.
Good thinking. I know you can dig into the Bentley and rebuild. The Volvo just replace the engine. These vehicles are worth a lot of money just in parts . Someone out there has a totalled Volvo with same engine. Easy fix. It just locating and time consuming
Just a heads up the Green Label has a 4.4 BMW V8 with a Cosworth twin turbo set up. The Red label has the old single turbo engine from the Turbo R. The 2003 and on are Arrange T & R with the twin turbo set up. The BMW V12 only came in the Silver Seraph. The only reason that the Arrange did not continue to use the BMW 4.4 V8 was the beef going down between BMW & VW over the RR & Bentley marks. Not from consumer demand. The Arrange was originally designed for the 4.4
Then VW brought they're own engine into play and made a great car out of it. Instead of the traditional crapmobile it used to be. BTW VW sold RR label and Morris works to BMW to finance rebranding Bentley, then Lutz abandoned BMW to rebrand Bentley for VW. That was the Beef.
@@jamesbowen2105that's not what happened re the Bentley / RR sale. VW thought it had bought the whole lot - including the RR name. But the RR name is actually owned by the people that make the Aero engines and was licensed back to the car maker. BMW had been working with RR/Bentley for years - hence the seraph had the V12 and the Arnage their V8. BMW assumed this would give them first refusal on the buy. When VW swept in and bought it out from under them they were upset. But knew enough to go to the aero manufacturer and get the name. This blindsided VW and they were extremely upset about it. They certainly didn't sell the name to fund the purchase they never owned it and it was a massive part of what they thought they were buying. In the ensuing argument BMW threatened to stop supplying parts - not just the engine but HVAC etc all BMW. It eventually ended that BMW would see out their contract engine wise but that left Bentley without an engine. To save face they brought back the old warhorse and completely re-worked it. There had been some complaints about the BMW engine not having the torque of the 6.75 so it's not entirely untrue that consumer demand brought it back but the major thing was saving face after losing the BMW engine
@withheld566 that totally conflicts with the business contracts and LAWSUIT brought by BMW against both VW and Lutz. During that period around 94 and onward Vzw bought up (on paper) all the orphaned British auto olive industry in vluding parts and materials manufacturing. The only part they wanted, and kept was the Bentley. Name and physical works as well as the parts manufacturing components and the physical plants, material supplies (Fabrice, wood leather etc) that were shared by Bentley RR Aston Martin etc. They had no interest in the rest and brought in Ford and BMW. Among others to part out what they didn't want in order to finance the deal. They had full intentions to dump the BMW engine and components in favor of all new next gen development of their own. Bob Lutz was CEO of BMW at the time and he went for the deal, along with Ford. BMW alleged that he knowledgeably defrauded BMW in the process with a promise of the new Bentley CEO and rebrand position in a major lawsuit. I was closely following the business deals as they occurred. And read the full interviews with both Piech and Lutz in Business Week concerning the long range plans for the Bentley label and the holdings that went with it. This merger of VWs traditional parts holdings and the ones acquired in Britain and Spain gave VW ownership of over 70% if ALL uatoparts and supplies manufactuing in Europe. Including critical Technology and parts for BMW, Mercedes-Benz, Ford and others
I remember that the TH350 on my 1979 Camaro went bad and I was quoted £2,000 at a gearbox shop to rebuild it. My local American car shop said that a new crate gearbox shipped in from the States and fitted would only cost £400 and in that price, they also fixed my shifter linkage. This was back in 1993 .... so 30 years ago now.
I live only 25 miles away from the Bentley factory in Crewe, and have a friend who worked there when these Arnage models were been made, back then he warned me to never buy one, when they fail, they do a good job of it, and it costs many thousands to repair the damage. Here in the UK you can find them at low prices, way less than a typical new car, but they are money pits.
It would be very unfair to attribute the failure to the 'car'. The damage only occurred because the driver IGNORED the overheating information provided by the light/gauge fitted to the dash and just continued driving the car without any coolant in the engine.
Very true, but the harsh reality is that a car that is very expensive when new is also very expensive to repair when they go wrong, as David has said many times the parts don't get any cheaper as a car ages. My friend who worked on them said they were all top show, with inferior parts hidden by the wood and leather. You don't always get what you pay for. @@georgebettiol8338
i have a 2006 volvo S40 2.4 LI engine non turbo , 170.000 miles and still going strong , as long you keep your eyes in oil, water and good maintenace , it will go forever . :)
I have a 2016 V60 with that same engine set up and I’m now at 125k miles and it’s been all trouble free other than regular maintenance and oil changes every 5K miles. I also have an 89 Volvo 240 with 325k miles and starts every day.
Some people underestimate the importance of maintenance (oil changes is a part of maintenance). If you treat your machine well, the machine spirit will shine on (unless you're very unlucky and got one of the cars that came out faulty from factory). The 240 is a beautiful machine!
That red block in your 89 Volvo is bulletproof. I had to have one rebuilt that was seriously abused but that was an anomaly. I have had two white blocks, a 95 960 and a 06 XC70, I love those engines. My current 13 XC70 has the 3.0 T6 and so far it has also been great. I wouldn't touch one of the current 4 cylinder Volvos.
Wizard, how about a used Volvo engine from a dismantler? Surely there has to be a “lower” mileage parts car out there that was rear ended. Those engines usually come with warranties also.
Hi. Volvo master tech here to. Have worked on Probably 1000+ of these engines, and i have never seen a failiour like that on that type of engine. I did see something similar on an older t4. The one that is the same as the Ford 1.6 ecoboost. On that one cyl 3 was completly destroied. We figgured that the injector was at fault, but we never realy found the actual cause.. Would love to se a folow UP, if the dealer figyres out what happend 😋
Agree - to establish the root cause of the failure would be interesting. However, I suspect 'we, or more importantly the owner' will never know, because the dealer would only be driven by profit - so damaged engine out and off to the scrap yard and new engine in as fast as practically possible.
hey bruh I'm looking to trade in my 2022 xc60 for a used xc90 (want the 3rd row) what year and engine should I avoid? I had a 2019 s60 with the T6 and it was a solid car up till 80k when I traded it for the xc60 T5. The XC60 has been a bit of a disappointment.
@@Jcarini15 they are basicaly all the same. Mening The base 2.0 is the same, whit only yearly variations. And power output variations. The engines themselvs rearly have issues. There are other problems we deal whit more. Like bad wiering, leaks, and air suspensjon issues. 🤔 How ever, i would personaly stay away from the diesel, if you only run short trips. And the New mild hybrid cars whit ad blue are werry complex, but have not had to manny issues yet. Dont know if this helps at all 😂
Surprised not to see this at the very top of all comments, but the green label used the M62 4.4 BMW V8, with the addition of 2 turbos (integrated into the manifolds). So did the Corniche for those years, but you're right that the Silver Seraph used the BMW V12 5.4 M73.
You can buy those engines for the Volvo for really cheap online like some of them go for a thousand some of them go for $3,000 but still that's a lot cheaper than dealership now that's a used engine with little miles but still that's probably what I would do
@@paulbolick6143 not necessarily I've had good luck with used engines I replaced one in my Honda with 100,000 miles and it's still running 200,000 miles later it's not always the case but you do need to inspect the engine with a borescope before you purchase it
@@colchronic I'm talking about in this exact example with this volvo. If you replace your 2015-2016 volvo with a used 2015-2016 engine your going to have the same problem. All of those engine have bad rings.
@@paulbolick6143 last time I checked all engines are generally the same they all have shitty oil control rings especially after 2005 there's no voodoo magic about Honda that makes used engines better it's just a matter of inspecting the engine before you buy it
@@colchronic There's nothing to inspect. Your not going to see anything on the engine to tell you the rings are bad. Your talking about generally on any car I'm talking about on this exact volvo. They don't just burn a little oil they empty the oil pan and it's on every 2.0L engine from 2015 to 2016
Seen two of the same exact failures on 2016 and early 2017 Vovlo Xc90 T6's both the same issue. Volvo used bad spark plugs that fell apart and destroyed the cylinder wall. On one of them the scratches were so deep that they created holes in cylinder liner. Just Google 2016 Xc90 spark plug recall. There is NHTSA warning about this issue. The spark plugs are falling apart on the porcelain portion and that's a very hard material. It will decimate valves and liners on contact. Check the ceramic portion of the spark plug. Might be missing or the dealer replaced the damaged spark plug to cover their screw up. They supossed to change them free of charge when the car is on for the routine service. Should be an immediate recall as the issue occurs quickly and can disable the vehicle in seconds causing a very hazardous situation for the occupants.
That makes complete sense. He did show the spark plug ceramic insulator had broken and that probably took a chunk out of the valve as well as destroying the piston wall.
If the owners are watching, we all feel for you. I hope respectively they get a good price from a breakers yard, and decent deal on the engine replacement work. And closing in on 1 million subscribers Mr & Mrs Wizard and team That's fantastic ! I remember watching your first videos with Crazy D, the shady car dealer. Seems like yesterday !
I had a customer who was a service writer at a local Bentley dealer. I told him I loved Bentleys, especially the Turbo R. He said he would bring one by for me to look at. The next day, there he was, all smiling, saying come see the Bentley. As we approached the car in the lot (a wedding white beauty) he mentioned he had it up to 130 mph coming up the hill from Palm Springs. What a gorgeous machine! He popped the hood. Coolant everywhere. A growing puddle underneath.
I figured there’d be a lot of comments posted for swapping an LS into the Bentley, but the one who suggested a Cummins swap got my vote. It would be a toy, and toys always cost money. The Volvo, on the other hand, if it was mine, would become someone else’s parts car.
@@paulharrold7151 engine swaps are more than just pull and drop in other engine. theres usually a lot of little issues to cover. theres no reason to beleive that theres not 2 options here. 1. replace the pumps. im sure electric or belt driven pumps could be added to the engine to keep the systems working. might be hard to match specs, although the belt driven could be easier to fine tune if necessary with adjusting pulley sizes. 2. you're already engine swapping, replace the break and suspension components too. this can vary from very hard with lots of fabrication, to just really expensive if its actually done on a somewhat regular basis on this car(doubt it on a bently) and very likely a combonation of the 2. will it be easy? no, will it be cheap? well if your a gearhead tinkerer, doing all the work yourself with an LS/Cummins just laying around in your shop, maybe? but still probably not. it would be an interesting final product though
I had a Volvo C30 which was a LOT of fun to drive BUT that's when they went to Chinese ownership and things quickly went south. It got stuck in a small flood and water near the gas pedal ruined the drive by wire electronics and insurance totaled the car surprisingly. That said - the SEATS were the best ever. Volkswagen seats are pretty good but these Volvo seats are so nice (R-Design) I managed to pull them for installation into the Corvair.
As opposed to other comments about the Volvo … I am the original owner of a 2016 XC90 with about 100,000 miles and have been very happy with it. Didn’t buy it because it was a luxury vehicle but because it had the features we needed. Have only had oil pressure sender fail otherwise just normal maintenance. We chose the base model with halogen headlights because they emit full spectrum light and LEDs don’t. The super turbo-charged 2 liter four is not as smooth as a six or V-8 but still puts out 300 horsepower upon request while still giving 28 highway MPG. Opted for the air suspension because we wanted additional off-road ground clearance and has nicer ride than standard suspension. Keeping my fingers crossed that the suspension air bags hold up long term. The rough idle of the car in the video reminds me of the rough idle of my smart car but then it only has three cylinders.
I had a 2018 XC90 T6 and it was in he shop, no exaggeration, every other month. It was so unreliable that I finally lemon lawed it in 2022. Also, there’s no way you’re getting 28 mpg on that car. It’s a very common complaint on the forums that the T6 engine gets around 16 - 19 mpg mixed and about 19 - 21 on the highway. Ironically, I never had issues with the engine but I think we had an issue on everything else. Also, the front rotors were so poorly designed by Volvo that they replaced my rotors twice before I even hit 40K miles. They fully admitted the rotor design was defective. They eventually redesigned the rotors.
Have you researched to see if your car might be affected by the oil ring carbon clogging issue of 2015-2016? I don't know if it affected XC90s. but it was in 4 cylinder and 5 cylinder engines. They may have fixed it for the 2016 model year in the 4 cylinder.
I checked my maintenance log and see that I replaced the front brake pads at 38,000 miles (sooner than I really had to) and front & rear pads plus front rotors at 90,000 miles. When we bought the XC90 the new version had just come out and none were available on the dealer’s lot. So ours is a built-to-order car. Also got the head-up display, tow hitch and pilot assist. Love the head-up display. Glad I didn’t pay a lot of money for the pilot assist. We often drive between S.F. Bay Area and Humboldt county (300+ miles) and always get 28 mpg on those trips. Mpg around town is much worse. Prefer to drive our Chevy Volt or smart car for local trips.
If volvo ever puts a 6 cylinder back in the xc90, i'll be first in the queue. As of now, i am not convinced that a 4-banger power plant is reliably up to the task for the long haul, and thats quite defeatist of the volvo image of reliablity but i guess it is still built Tank-Robust structurarily
For the Volvo, the early driveE 4 cylinder engines (14/15/16) and some of the last 5 cylinder engines made (12 to 16) sadly had piston ring issues (low friction). There was a program to apprently fix at least the driveEs permanently. They changed the design and the new ones allegedly no longer suffer from the problem. Google... there is a or was a class action lawsuit out there for the problem.
So basically the owner drove it low on oil or with no oil? Seems to be a theme with modern cars now - Probably because many cars don't have oil dipsticks anymore to check the level smh... My 2015 Jaguar XF is one of them, and now that it's older I just get the oil changed every 2,500 to 3k miles at the most and hope for the best.
The new style oil rings clogged with carbon prematurely, which caused greatly increased oil consumption. Volvo settled the class action lawsuit with the low number of litigants who filed the suit (10 or less) - I believe in 2022. Too bad for all the others out there, including people who bought CPO cars when they hit 70 or 80k miles when the issues arose.. Volvo did cover a lot of repairs, but thousands of people likely were handed bills for $4000-5000. Doesn't seem to be the cause of the issue here though. I bought a 2014 Volvo XC70 with the 6 cylinder (wanted the old smooth 5 cylinder - they put it in the 2016 I think, which I have owned 3 cars having it) but simply would not chance it. You can find used Volvos 2015 t0 2016 with 80k-120k miles - do your research to see if a candidate was affected.
The Green Label Arnage had a turbo BMW v8, while the Rolls-Royce Silver Seraph had the v12. Parts car? NO WAY - I would install an M62 v8 and manual 6-speed box from a junkyard BMW (using Green Label engine mounts, etc) and drive that Arnage forever.
The BMW engine in the green label Arnage was a 4.4 liter although it pulled the car along okay it was a bit revvy and sales for the green label was poor.
I had an early 70’s Caddy and it overheated on the highway. Old oil on the valve covers were in flames 🔥 when I pulled over to look. I drove it a few miles to a garage. The water pump belt had broken and the coolant and oil mostly boiled out 😮 Once cooled down the mechanic replaced the belt and topped up the coolant and oil. It was fine after that, can’t do that with modern engines 😮
Cadillac 472 engines were pretty much bullet proof. Really had to have a bad/neglectful owner to fail. I got 197K out of my '68 Fleetwood Brougham and 165K out of my '73 Coupe de Ville. Both were running strong at their respective sales. Wish I'd kept the Fleetwood, but an offer for the car I couldn't pass came about...hindsight.
Thanks Mr./Mrs. Wizard for all the videos with knowledge dropped. I might be of an old mentality but my step father who worked on cars on the weekends told me that if you look at a car that you want, you have to ask yourself these questions, "Can I check and replace my own motor oil, can I check and replace my own transmission oil, can I check and replace my own coolant, can I check and replace my spark plugs/water pump/alternator/starter without ripping up the whole top end and are parts readily available at a reasonable price". Using these questions, I have made good decisions that have played out when purchasing vehicles. I have an '06 Trailblazer and '07 HHR that I have been able to keep on the road due to being able to work/maintain myself saving tons of money and with no car payment.
Volvo had an issue in late 2015 and 2016 with the oil rings on some engines. I believe all 5 cylinder, and some 4 cylinder. They changed the design, and the new rings were susceptible to carbon buildup. At 80k miles or so, they would stop working, and oil consumption would go way up. Likely not related to this one, but I came across this while researching a new used car. I bought a 2014 straight 6 XC70 Turbo two weeks ago and I love it. If you are looking at a 2015-2016 Volvo with a 4 or 5 cylinder, do your research!
Our 2016 XC70 4 cyl had the oil consumption issue. Fortunately, there was a class action lawsuit and Volvo covered a rebuild with new improved design pistons. Had to prove that we had been changing the oil in it according to schedule, but they did the repair at no cost to us.
I own a small HVAC business and I realize I am put in the same position you are in now Dailey for HVAC repairs. I don't want to be a financial advisor, I don't want to spend peoples money for them, but at the same time there is so much that they do not know that only I can help with. Good video. Thanks
I remember the first cars I bought for my sons. They were the early cars from Korea. One was a newer salvage with about 7,000 miles for $6000. Fairly reliable, he drove it for over 175,000 miles. Sold it cheap when the catalytic converter went out, not worth to replace. The other was Accent for $2k, it had 120k, ran a little rough and the trans was a little rough shifting. It was a bridge car to last a year or so. Giving my son the time to save some money for a newer one. He drove it for over 3 years and 65,000 miles, sold it for $1100.
I had a 98 s90 for several years, and it had the 6 cylinder in it. I can't remember the mileage, but I think it was around 150k. It ran flawlessly. Sweet engine.
It's funny to me because those of us who met David from Tyler's channel know he's got a wicked sense of humor and laugh -- like most guys (including myself) 8 year old humor stuff (teschlong). How he said "let me clean the tip" with a straight face, I'll never know.
I have already driven 530,000 problem-free kilometers (- 330,000 miles) with my 1988 Saab 900. This car is very basic without options. I think it would be better to continue investing in this car in the future than to buy a new one.
A friend's Volvo C70's 5 cylinder overheated one day and never woke up. It made a beautiful parts car though. Live fast, die young and leave a good looking corpse.
I have owned three Volvos with 5 cylinder turbo engines. Fantastic power plant, and solid cars. I have two left with the 5, and a newer one with a turbo 6. They do require maintenance, but we brick owners accept that. If you do your own work, it helps keeps operating costs down.
yeah, the white-block engines are fantastic, but they do not like overheating AT ALL. The minute you see that temp gauge rise in 5-cyl Volvo, pull over, turn it off and you'll have a chance to save it. I'm on 421,000kms with a factory 2.4L 5-cyl in one car and 235,000kms with the factory 2.3L Turbo/manual trans in another.
Interesting video. Sad when we have reached a point where some cars can't be repaired economical. As the owner of a 1961 Triumph TR3A that I restored my self I realize that if it had gone to a specialist for restoration it would not have been worth it.
The best way to save that Bentley would be to find a hot rod shop or someone with the skills to do an LS swap. Ditch all that English expensive stuff and go with aftermarket suspension and brakes too. Used engines for those are out there but few and far between as well as expensive.
Whoever was driving that Bently was a fool. As soon as whatever happened , the pop or the steam coming out , they should have stopped immediately and have it towed. I saved my Porsche's life (2006 911 (997)) hauling a** in France. The serpentine belt popped. I heard it immediately, saw the temperature start to go up, and immediately pulled over. Got towed, and it was only the serpentine belt that had to be replaced couple of hundred euro bucks.
My wife and I owned a 2017 xc90 for 9 months. Very underpowered engine for the size, and consumed oil so we sold it back to the dealer and got a Lexus which is what my wife previously drove.
When the Arnage and Silver Seraph were launched in 1998, the Arnage was supplied with a 4.4 liter V8 from BMW. The Silver Seraph was delivered with a 5.4 liter V12 from BMW. Both of these engines are very good, and offer very few problems. The 6.75 liter engine that the Arnage eventually got, unfortunately offered a number of costly and serious problems.
@@petrosaguilar8916 : Red Labes had issues regarding head gasket failures. Later models had terrible failures of the cam shafts, which also can be difficult to get replacements for.
@@htimsid Red Labes had issues regarding head gasket failures. Later models had terrible failures of the cam shafts, which also can be difficult to get replacements for.
With older cars (I have quite a few!) the cooling system is most often where the trouble starts. Old rubber, brittle plastic, dodgy thermo-fans, stuck thermostats, corroded aluminum etc etc... Fitting a $100 metal to metal temperature alarm attached to say the thermostat housing is vital.
Main dealer parts person here. At BMW, there's actually a good chance that the dealer will charge retail for the replacement engine if it was fitted there. However, many manufacturers will offer major unit intervention on trade sales and so may be able to sell to you (the garage) for less. It's worth an ask if you're a repair shop.
Had a Volvo S70 from new. Kept it well maintained at the stealership. At under 50k miles, I loaned it to a friend for the day. The next, day after he returned it, I noticed a mist coming in through the AC that had a distinct smell of coolant. Took it in that day for eval. After some tear down, it ended up being a cracked block. Not sure how, why, or what the heck he did to that car but was really surprised it happened to a well maintained car not too far out of warranty. More surprised that Volvo (then owned by Ford) did zero to assist even though it was apparently a very rare and weird issue for that engine. Never bought another Volvo even though I loved them and it was my third one.
The Bentley's failed cooiing connnection is not responsible for the significant heat damage to the engine. The damage only occurred because the driver IGNORED the overheating information provided by the light/gauge fitted to the dash and just continued driving the car without any coolant in the engine. The car's engine can be repaired - it's just a question of economics - i.e. to expensive to repair with respect to the car's current value.
I deal with getting parts, some things like pistons can be no longer available after as short as 11 years. Others say on request on their website, they'll make a batch when they get enough orders for maybe 250, but then won't let me place an order to go towards that total.
If a car is overheating the best thing to do if you must drive is to turn up the cabin temperature to max and put the fan on max. You may roast but the engine will run cooler at least for a while. The interior heater will help cool the water. Make sure that the Air con is turned off.
Not going to help if all the coolant has spewed out of a break like the one on the Bentley. Thats what killed it! No coolant in the cylinder heads, the hottest spot!
This type of person who owned the Bentley Arnage is probably like the clueless person who buys a brand new 911 Porsche or similar and knows absolutely nothing about cars. EG: They order the Porsche and say , "I want a black one" , not understanding anything about how the car works or the servicing required , they only understand the badge branding or name. The driver of the Bentley most likely kept driving it without coolant not having a clue on the damage being caused, so stupid, avoidable and such a shame . Lots of people want these fancy cars but have no idea. Another common problem on these expensive cars is the owners never stick to the servicing schedules . We just sold a Kona Blue FN 10sp 5.0 GT Mustang recently and it had the optional factory Magna ride suspension, the customer wanted the car but had no clue or idea what Magna Ride was and just wanted a Blue Mustang.
Thanks for another great video. I was sad to hear about the British auto history in repair cost. I had recently seen your Jaguar video on "timing chain" issues. A beautiful Jaguar with a engine time bomb made it not worth fixing. A very good cautionary video. Carry On Sir!
Haha, I just looked that up too, and scrolled through the comments just to see if anyone else had done the same thing. The yellow plate being on the front really offends me though.
@@Zeem4 yeah 🤣🤣 I'm a car dealer so couldn't help but do some columbo like research skills 🤣 strange why they stuck the plate on the front of that motor.
@@meatmanifesto I've seen it before in other videos from the US, where someone's stuck UK numberplates on a car just for the effect. There's another channel that kept repeatedly showing a 60s Rover P5 wearing A-reg (1983) plates from a Land Rover, which to me just looks bizarre.
Seems as if the higher cost to purchase the less they are worth to repair. Having worked on too many Volvos(semi tractors not cars) I can only conclude they are built to fail as quickly and expensively as possible( planned obsolescence) and to be as difficult to maintain/repair as can be designed. Very old Volvos might have had a reputation for quality but that is ancient history.
@ronv6637 In the 1970's into the 1980's in the UK, Volvos had a reputation for "lasting forever" (the print adds at that time claimed that 70% of all Volvos ever manufactured were still on the road), but those days are long gone, and they're now clearly built to be driven, used-up and scrapped.
I find it impossible to believe that the Arnage's engine couldn't be repaired or rebuilt. I've personally done several RR engines in my home garage. They are straight out of 1960 with the carbs replaced with fuel injection. i.e., old school heavy block and head. Before I'd consign that to be a parts car, I'd bore scope the cylinders. If you don't have damage there, it's just a head gasket and the head may have to be skimmed, Based upon the fact that it runs, I'd discount the possibility of bottom end work. Isn't Hoovie looking for another dumb deal?
Can and is it worth it are 2 different questions. $30k for a $25k car? Just as bad as the $60k battery for a $55k car ( Ioniq 5 with a minor scrape on the battery case recently in the headlines)
They stopped being Volvo's in 1999, my 98 V70XC has 244K on it, runs 20psi boost on mods+tune, and is rock solid. Starts sub-zero in a second every time, mid 150's compression in all 5 cylinders. My Fordvo, 07 S60R 200K just got a new head, cyl 3 crack in plug hole, above the plug, head gasket, compression fine, no exhaust in coolant, or coolant in oil, just increasing loss of coolant. But was worth the $2500ish to replace the head. Car worth maybe $5Kish, but I love it. After 2008 became Chinavo's and it's all crap from there. I'd rip that Bentley's engine out, drop an LS crate motor in it, yank the suspension shit and go shocks/springs. Damn good looking car.
For the most part I'd not ever consider a car "dead" because the engine is gone, there's a huge caveat to that statement though, I do my own work but ONLY on MY cars and would drop another engine in it that I rebuilt myself. When my 1.8T blew the head gasket in my 04 Passat because the past owner didn't refill the system correctly, the neighbors said "well it's scrap now" or "It's off to the junk yard now." Well I'm driving that car now. Have put 5,000 miles on it since 2019. It costed me all of about $650 dollars to do this myself. Throwing away an entire car because the head gasket blew is just a ridiculous thought to me. Thanks for all your extremely well done and thought out videos Car Wizard. You have a great team and shop, If I had 1/10th your car knowledge I'd be worth something.
I sound like a real pendant, sorry Wizard. Just an FYI, I've worked a great deal on these engines and even when they are totally cooked, if you have the space and time they are quite easy to get running again. They love boost!! Add the head gasket upgrade and you can get hysterical levels of power & torque out of them.
The 6.75 liters old Rolls Royce engine was developed at Cosworth during the sixties. BMW kept it during its cooperation from 1998 to 2003, then VW bought Crewe but didn’t receive the marque of RR as the RR Aero Engines had the rights for it and BMW Aero Engines was a development partner which RR could not get out of the game. So VW kept Crewe and the old 6.75 engine and introduced the 6.0 W12 Volkswagen Engine..
@@bennyhannover9361 I'm afraid you're wrong. The 6.2 was first developed in 1959 and later enlarged to 6.75 to compensate for emissions rules. This engine remained unchanged until the mid/late 90s just components added and improved, it came with or without the turbo, different engine management etc. Now Bentley and rolls used the BMW derived 4.4v8 and V12 in the seraph chassis during 1998 until 2000, then VW acquired the Bentley mark 1998, and due to complaints by Bentley customers they reinstated the 6.75 after 2 years of development and a legal battle. At this time the 6.75 was tuned by cosworth(pistons, ECU, crank, turbos etc) and went back to the 4L80-E as it could handle the power, unlike the BMW 5 speed unit.
That sounds really good. Not sure, but I don't think there is enough depth to the engine bay to accommodate a Cummins 8B Just saying, the old school guy.
How about finding another Red Label Arnage parts car with different horrible problems, then making one good one? Either that or some interesting engine swap? The first would require a deep search and good luck, the second lots of problem solving to make things work together.
Years ago I had an Austin Maxi. The radiator is at the side of the engine, so it relies on the fan to provide a flow of air. I was in the fast lane of the M1 when the fan belt broke. By the time I had crossed the two inner lanes to get to the hard shoulder, the system was boiling.
@@cedhome7945 Good point, in the Uk the licence plate stays with the car (you can get a personal one but its a hassle and can be expensive). So most car s have the same plate throughout their life, that means it can be looked up to confirm if it has the MOT (annual safety certificate) and has road tax paid. The MOT is challenging and eventually most cars fail at about 12-15 years and get scrapped.
About 20 years ago I was driving on the highway (in Italy), passing trucks at around 135 km/h, when I saw the engine temperature warning light come on, with a loud "beep" sound that came right after that. My first reaction was to immediately put the car in Neutral; I was able to quickly moove to the right hand side of the highway betwen the trucks (that were traveling at 80 km/h, with a good distance between each other), and kept going to the emergency lane. Once on the emergency line, I started braking to lower the speed quickly and as soon as I was at a complete stop, I turned the engine off. It took less that 20 seconds between the moment I heard the alarm and the car was now with the engine switched off. Thankfully, the engine suffered no damage, not even the head gasket; I was very lucky....the conditions of the road at that moment played in my favour. The overheating issue was due the failure of the belt that ran the water pump.
I spotted the uk registration plate on the Bentley and looked it up. It’s a 2004 Daewoo Nubira 1.8 manual with all of 120bhp. I bet it’s still running!
I don't care one bit about modern Volvos.... My love for them ends after the RWD models (240/740/940) and some the early FWD models (850 and early V70). If it's newer than 01 I don't like it.
If the castings are still good, I'd go for the Bentley, for sure it is for somebody that can do the mechanical work himself, the newer Volvo are cheap cars with cheap engines and cheap drivetrain If the Volvo was a 100 or a 200 series in good condiotion, my verdict would be the same as for the Bentley remember that the bentley failure is due to a neglect to a certain point but the failure on the volvo is due to a design flaw, it is all the difference.
The Bentley's engine starts and runs so an 'economic' repair could be undertaken by a knowledgeable home based mechanic. It's very likely that both heads need to be skimmed and at the very worst may also require the a skimming of the block's surface, where it interfaces with the head. The damage only occurred because the driver IGNORED the overheating information provided by the light/gauge fitted to the dash and the tell-tale steam emanating from the front of the vehicle - and just continued driving the car without any coolant in the engine. Coolant hoses and pipes are not a 'life-of-type' fitment and do fail - so the hose-pipe failure after circa 20 years is not unusual.
Wizard I am looking at a 2015 Volvo V60 with the same 4 cylinder turbocharged engine. It has 163k miles. Beautiful one owner car with very clean car fax showing maintenance at the dealership in Albuquerque NM where it was bought from. Should I stay far away from buying it??? I have not test drive it yet it's out if town about 5 hours away. Are many if these engines just not capable of reaching high miles?
To be fair it is reasonably normal to have first model years of a generation being less reliable. They've gotten pretty great. Remember, these are like Fords and Chevy's in Sweden, not too many issues.
The radiator hose on the Bentley did not end that car's life. It was the idea to keep driving after it was overheating.
More than once I’ve had someone say “I wasn’t far from home so I just kept going”. Usually “not far” is about an hour. It’s also usually the people that can’t afford basic maintenance let along a new engine or major repair
Woman driver or not mechanically minded trying to make it home driving in the dark i guess.
If he was driving at a highway, the failure of that hose may not have been as obvious as you think, the temp gauge wouldn't rise much, as there is no longer any coolant, the only indication would be a drop in oil pressure the longer he drove it & possibly a burning smell.
I know coz it's happened to me.....but not in a Bentley 😮
I was once just curving in to accelerate at the beginning of the autobahn when I saw a wiff of fog going across my hood. I looked in the rear mirror and saw only a white wall. The cooler had blown.
Luckily, I could just keep in the curve and get right off the autobahn again, and even more luck that there also was directly a parking lot. That was just a few hundred meters and maybe a minute, and the engine was already beginning to run rough.
I had the spleen to have the cooler repaired (solder the leak), cost as much as a new one, did a nice job with a new mesh and painted black, so my "throw noghing away when you can fix it" conscience was satisfied.
Already back then (>20 years ago) this specialist usually only repaired truck coolers. there it was worth it.
yup. the dumb dumb who kept driving it destroyed the car. such a shame.
My dad once told me ," if you can't afford a new luxury car , you definitely can't afford a used one !".
Smart man my dad .
That is an ultra luxury car. That is totally different. Your dad didn't make much sense, unless he meant running costs.
His wisdom is correct a used luxury car cheaper to buy.. But mega miles and all the electrical gremlins start to factor in.
All those ECUs start to break down.
A man ahead of his time. God bless him and rest in peace
Lexus.
@@mcmoose64 yeah the used ones all the ECUs go bad on systems on lux cars after 5 year.. End up paying the price and wishing you had manual windows mirrors and central locking.
My dad had a high end merc 03 all faults came on.
He sold it and said get me a basic no frills toyota base model and he was happy
Reminds me of years ago I needed to put out $2K for a car that wasn't worth more than $4-5K (it was paid off). I decided to fix it and in the end I got another 7-8 years of trouble-free driving. Much cheaper than new car payments for sure.
Always a gamble but for you it paid off
I think that way too
And fixing was _a lot_ less than depreciation.
Wizard recently produced a video on that very topic. The customer needed 2k to fix a Buick that had north of 300k on it. Of course, it featured the venerable 3800 V6, the Wizard's favorite. Cheers.
I love stories with a happy ending. Good for you man.
I truly enjoy your diagnosis on most vehicles. I am a 75 year old retired mechanic, with 40+ years working at GM dealerships. You explain your reasoning quite well.
Many years ago in my youth a friend of mine had the opportunity to buy a Porsche. I think it was a 944 or a 928 pretty cheap. This was the late 80’s and it had a 4 cylinder engine. He brought it to a shop where another friend worked to have it checked out. It was ok shape, no major issues, it did need a lot of tlc from neglect and poor maintenance.
I will never forget when another older mechanic sauntered over to take a peek as we’re all looking it over, and said “yes you can afford to buy it, but can you afford to own it?”.
He proceeded to inform my friend about the REAL cost. Registration, insurance, specialty parts that have to be imported, who’s gonna work on it, etc. the realization why the car was ok but ratty sank in and the enthusiasm for having a cool sports car quickly dissipated. He bought his grandparents’ 2 year old Buick lesabre with the 3.8 instead, his grandma could no longer drive. Drove it for about 17 years and gave it to his oldest son who drove it all through college. Transmission finally gave out with about 240k miles on it.
If it was a 4 cylinder it's the 944, the 928 are V8 only.
And 944 were never that expensive to run and mantain.
Man, what a shame your friend did not have the experience of having a cool ratty old car when he was young. Youth is for having a fun car or two.
I heard similar curmudgeon comments when I bought a 911 as a middle aged man. You know what? It was worth it to have a car I loved, not just an appliance for transportation.
@@EdDale44135 you obviously had the means to afford a 911, good for you and I hope you have fun with it. this story is coming from a time when driving a mustang or camaro was all we could afford. My friend later restored a gto and still has it to this day. Yeah sure we all thought it would be cool to own a porsche, who wouldn’t, but raising a family and needing a dependable car over rode that at the time. So we stuck to domestic stuff we could play with on the weekends. None of us could justify spending 300 bucks for brake pads when that was almost a weeks pay and new pads for any gm car was 20. We never gave up on wanting cool rides, we just agreed to have cars we could drive and not sit in the garage for years saving up for parts.
@@jazzventura well, at the time for any of us it was. Parts were just too expensive. We looked up general stuff it needed at the time like plugs and wires, brake pads, rotors, new clutch, tie rod ends, at least one ball joint, and we came up with a number that was almost the cost of the car. This is before factoring in all the other stuff.
@@TheJimbodean67 The 911 was $12K. A Mustang or a Camaro was something I would not have been able to afford.
Volvo enthusiast here. My current Volvo has 247,000 miles. It's been a faithful and extremely reliable companion. Fuel pressure sensor, engine mount, both axles, and a wheel bearing have been the only repairs. 2016 was the first year of the SPA platform, the 2.0 engine, AND the redesigned XC90. They did have a lot of problems with the rings, as Volvo attempted to use "energy conserving" rings and caused the cars to burn oil. Also, the spark plugs are supposed to be changed at 70k miles. Were they? I've heard of the plug tips falling off and destroying the cylinder. Also, did they use premium fuel? If the car never got a drop of anything other than 87, you're causing a lot of detonation in that engine. Think about it. When you're making 316HP out of a 2.0 liter 4 cylinder, you're doing it by ramming more air pressure in with a turbo and a supercharger. You need higher octane fuel to stand up to the extra heat and pressure. They're good cars, but they require care, maintenance, and attention just like anything else.
Detonation? That would have to be one faulty ECU that permits that with 87 petrol and cant adjust the parameters accordingly.... Nah, more than likely the fuel used had nothing to do with it, at least not regarding detonation.
The T6 version of this engine with both the turbo and supercharger in these requires premium fuel. Not recommends, requires. The T5 turbo only recommends but doesn't require premium.
@@apatrevi1 It should still run without too much detonation on 87 though, but with enormously reduced power.
Most if not all Volvo engines will detune via ECM if you run 87 octane, but EVERY Volvo manual going back to the 850 recommends 91 octane always whether or not the engine is N/A or turbocharged. I would agree that once you are both supercharging and turbocharging with only 2L displacement, you do not want to run anything below what's recommended in the Volvo manuals, that is to say 91 Octane or better. I run 93 octane in my 1998 S70 T5 manual and it runs like a champ and eats up the miles effortlessly. In my '99 V70 N/A 2.4, I ONLY run 91 octane.
@@NicholasPellowI only run 98 in my C70 T5 from 99. Running 95 you can feel it hesitate under load. Same with my 2020 V60 T4.
I love that when opening the Bently he said Let's open the BONNET! Since it's a British car a not open the hood :)
Now you know what it's like!😎 🇬🇧
Wizard is very respectful about such things.
Nah. It may. E a British car, but it’s over here in the States, so I say, “poppen ze hood!”
The Bentley even had English March to Sept 04 plates. BTW, the yellow plate goes on the rear, the front plate is white background.
Then he should use the Japanese word for hood when doing that with a Japanese car. Likewise Italian car. But he doesn't. Because it's nonsense
I am still daily driving a 1999 Volvo V70 with the 2.4L 5 cylinder. It is BULLETPROOF if maintained. Just turned 421,000km (I'm in Canada) on the factory installed engine and transmission. I am religious about engine & transmission oil changes and check the cooling system regularly. I even tow a 4x12 utility trailer with it regularly. I also own and drive a 1998 S70 T5 (5 cyl high pressure Turbo model) with the 5 speed manual and it is simply one of the best cars I've ever owned and driven. Only 235,000km on that one since I only take it out once a week. Currently also sitting in the driveway is a 1986 Volvo 244DL with 210,000km that I plan to swap an American V8 into soon. Volvo for Life!!
I had a great 200 series Volvo that I dropped a Chevy block into when the engine wore out. Later on, when the body was getting rusted out, I replaced the body with a Ford Taurus.
I drove a 1990 Volvo 740 16 valve 2.3 l to 100 to 1.5 million km. Yes it had rings replaced. It had valves replaced. It had many seals replaced. I drove it 160 km to work everyday for 25 years and then kept it after that when I retired and I just recently sold it for twice what I paid for it in when I bought it
Amen to that! I have a 1998 Volvo V70R AWD, 218K miles, bute beast, goes like train, +/-130/140 mph on German autobahn! Suspension rebuilt all round, Bilstein struts front, Sachs Nivos rear, solid as a rock, no smoke. Religiously regularly serviced/oils changed. Daily motor, had it 8 years and it's good for at least 10 more! 👍😬🇬🇧
It's BS that two tonnes of perfectly good car can be rendered scrap by a small failing in the engine. I hate that things are now so disposable. It's crazy. I'm shopping for a used car right now and the biggest thing in the back of my mind is the cost of repair when something fails. That £2k Mercedes has to run for a couple of years. I can't afford for it to die because of an uneconomical repair. Things were greener in my dad's day. It broke. You fixed it. You didn't fire a parts cannon at it either. You actually fixed the thing that was broken. Cheers, CW. Enjoy the channel.
Get a mass produced car (Honda, Toyota, Ford, etc.) and you can just get an engine from the junk yard.
I have been looking at 1980s newspapers and was surprised how there were national adverts for a chain of shops that would fit a refurbished gearbox in cars like an Allegro for less than £100 and give you a guarantee on it. An engine would only be a couple of £100s. There again by the 1990s a colleague bought an Allegro for about £100 which came with nine months MOT and a full tank of petrol.
@@MrDuncl . True...but in 1982 I bought a 2-bedroomed terraced house for £10,500...so there is that.
Also, it would mean driving an Allegro. lol
@@curmudgeon1933 The Allegro was ahead of its time. Look at the number of cars with "Quartic" steering wheels today.
Haha greener, people used to shove engine oil down the drain, where the MG plant was the ground is permanently full of toxic crap. You can recycle cars with reasonably low environmental damage.
Sounds like an incident with my mother years ago. She saw the temp gauge spike, she saw the idiot light go on, she saw the steam pouring out from the front of the car....she kept driving. She murdered that old Mercury because she 'didn't feel like stopping'. She spent the next four years bitching that the Olds she ended up with wasn't as nice as that old Marquis.
Sorry that happened. One reason why no one drives my car but me, and another reason why my car has spare upper and lower radiator hoses and a couple gallons of coolant onboard.
A lady friend of mine did her SUV in, when she ignored all the buzzers and lights going off, ignored the smoke & smell..and actually drove even faster trying to get to her destination. Women! Can't live with them and can't live with them!😅
@@gregt8638 that pretty much sums up female nature 😂
My mum took me with her for a visit to one of her friends one night, and when we went to leave the upper radiator hose decided to split.
So I whipped out my trusty multitool, unscrewed the clamp, cut the hose back beyond the split section (fortunately it was only on the end) and reattached it. Tipped in some more water and we were good to go again.
On my 96 Windstar 3.8l the strain relief clamp holding the heater hose came loose causing the plastic fitting on the engine to snap off. Right away I started to fix it. So I glued it back together with some kind of super plastic glue and covered it with epoxy. It held for several years until the rest of the van was finished and I scrapped it. I found the Windstar to be a great vehicle and still miss it.
As an Arnage owner here in the UK, it's sad to see this one is dead. Although I have to admit, I'd love to see this one live on with a crazy engine swap!
The wizard likes to write things off.
Why not an engine swap. Why is that considered not an option?
@Sonofsun001 he does but US parts labour prices are insane this in UK would probably maybe £2-3 to put it right. So it does make sense that 30k its not worth fixing
@@Thanos.mthis is true, I consume a lot of car related content in the UK and vs USA, labor cost is drastically hugher here, (local Texas BMW dealer here is $260 an hour) and we have fewer shops competent enough to handle actual mechanical work.
@@bck0001 My local BMW dealers here in the UK are currently charging £205 per hour (roughly $258), so pretty much the same.
When the head gaskets and a few other minor jobs needed replacing on my Arnage - the bill was over £9,000 (Circa $11,340) at an independent specialist six years ago!
We are lucky to have a number of great specialist all around the UK that are willing to look after all types of classic cars, so finding somebody to look after your car isn't too difficult, but I wouldn't say it's ever considerably cheaper than the USA etc...
A mechanic 250 an hour , I am a world class physicist in the oil business , I’ve been screwed !
Quite possibly. Raise your rate and if your current employer won't pay up find a different one. Its also a byproduct of a 50 year campaign by primary education to kill the trades as a life income choice. Less tradesmen plus tons of work equals good wages.
I used to know a lady who found a "bargain" Rolls Royce Corniche(?). Long story short, she bought a Rolls Royce that needed quite a bit of work. The car she bought sat for many years in her carport! She did not realize that owning a Rolls Royce brought along very expensive parts to repair. Even when the Rolls dealer offered her a discount on repairs she could NOT afford basic repairs the car required. I felt bad for her but she should have known better regardless!
Is it just me, or wouldn't it be cool to fit an old Bentley/Rolls with a diesel engine?
@@ChrisPatrick-q6k Yeah, it's just you...
Yup, the only way to own and maintain a Rolls somewhat "cheaply" is if you're a seasoned mechanic with access to reasonably priced parts, therefore pretty much only possible (and still very rare) in the UK.
@@ChrisPatrick-q6k 1.9tdi 🤣
I’d make the rolls electric. It’s already so heavy, replacing the engine with a battery pack would make little difference. Then you’d have the silent powerful experience the rolls driver desires. And let’s face it, they aren’t road tripping the rolls, just going to the country club.
So much truth in these videos; when I taught automotive, this was the hardest concept to convey. 1) It costs money to go down the road; it is not a right but a privilege. 2) Understanding when to walk away from a losing proposition is a painful but necessary lesson; most times, the owner has someone screaming in his ear (spouse or otherwise) that they know from some friend's 3rd cousin's boyfriend that that same issue is only a $400 fix, and that is all they will pay. . .then it ends up sitting on the garage's lot for months. It amazes me that you haven't suffered from burnout!
Hello, a lifetime Volvo owner. I have driven several Volvos which went over 200,000 to 400,000 miles on them and were still running . One of them went AT Least 500,000 miles in not sure because the odometer stopped at 400,000 for the second time . As long as you change oil, and maintain them, the Volvos las forever!!!
Old Volvos did, new ones with heavily boosted 2L I4 engines might not.
Especially not in huge heavy cars like the XC90 i think.
Agreed. But I wont own any new ones..Same as Merc, Bmw. Cars ive loved but no more because of disposable build mentality.
Anything supercharged or turbocharged is going to be less reliable.
Those are the old Volvo's, not these new one's owned by a Chinese company.
That's what I always thought and now I hear they are not super reliable anymore 😕
The Green Label Arnage had a BMW-derived 4.4 liter V8, with heads by Cosworth. Only the Silver Seraph had the BMW V12.
And twin turbos.
@@LateNightCable True. The point is, Car Wizard doesn't know nearly as much about these cars as he thinks he does.
@@Gary7even He's great but everybody's allowed a slip up now and then and compared to say some leading politicians my BS alarm doesn't go off every 30 seconds.
The Volvo owner should sell the old bad engine to Erik from "I Do Cars". It would make for a great video! David and Erik could even do a collaboration.
Makes the last gen Ford Crown Vic look like quite the bargain!
Agreed
YEAH! Although Eric just did a Bentley 6.75L a couple weeks ago, I've been bugging him for a while to get some Volvo engines in.
Good thinking. I know you can dig into the Bentley and rebuild. The Volvo just replace the engine.
These vehicles are worth a lot of money just in parts . Someone out there has a totalled Volvo with same engine. Easy fix. It just locating and time consuming
This video clearly demonstrates what a honest mechanic handles themselves.
In a perfect world, we should all have a Wizard nearby. If you have a wrench that's even close in talent/honesty, keep him.
"Honest" 😅😅😅😅😅😅
Honest😂😂😂😂😂😂 the guy over charges based on how "wholesome" he is. Arrogant as hell. Even charges hoovie more than parts cost online😂😂😂
Just a heads up the Green Label has a 4.4 BMW V8 with a Cosworth twin turbo set up. The Red label has the old single turbo engine from the Turbo R. The 2003 and on are Arrange T & R with the twin turbo set up. The BMW V12 only came in the Silver Seraph. The only reason that the Arrange did not continue to use the BMW 4.4 V8 was the beef going down between BMW & VW over the RR & Bentley marks. Not from consumer demand. The Arrange was originally designed for the 4.4
Then VW brought they're own engine into play and made a great car out of it. Instead of the traditional crapmobile it used to be.
BTW VW sold RR label and Morris works to BMW to finance rebranding Bentley, then Lutz abandoned BMW to rebrand Bentley for VW.
That was the Beef.
@@jamesbowen2105 When you say they brought their own engine into play, are you referring to the W12?
@elitemechanics9382 yes, understanding, all built by Audi division, except Bugatti engine, hand-built by VW internally.
@@jamesbowen2105that's not what happened re the Bentley / RR sale. VW thought it had bought the whole lot - including the RR name. But the RR name is actually owned by the people that make the Aero engines and was licensed back to the car maker. BMW had been working with RR/Bentley for years - hence the seraph had the V12 and the Arnage their V8. BMW assumed this would give them first refusal on the buy. When VW swept in and bought it out from under them they were upset. But knew enough to go to the aero manufacturer and get the name. This blindsided VW and they were extremely upset about it. They certainly didn't sell the name to fund the purchase they never owned it and it was a massive part of what they thought they were buying. In the ensuing argument BMW threatened to stop supplying parts - not just the engine but HVAC etc all BMW. It eventually ended that BMW would see out their contract engine wise but that left Bentley without an engine. To save face they brought back the old warhorse and completely re-worked it. There had been some complaints about the BMW engine not having the torque of the 6.75 so it's not entirely untrue that consumer demand brought it back but the major thing was saving face after losing the BMW engine
@withheld566 that totally conflicts with the business contracts and LAWSUIT brought by BMW against both VW and Lutz.
During that period around 94 and onward Vzw bought up (on paper) all the orphaned British auto olive industry in vluding parts and materials manufacturing.
The only part they wanted, and kept was the Bentley. Name and physical works as well as the parts manufacturing components and the physical plants, material supplies (Fabrice, wood leather etc) that were shared by Bentley RR Aston Martin etc.
They had no interest in the rest and brought in Ford and BMW. Among others to part out what they didn't want in order to finance the deal.
They had full intentions to dump the BMW engine and components in favor of all new next gen development of their own.
Bob Lutz was CEO of BMW at the time and he went for the deal, along with Ford.
BMW alleged that he knowledgeably defrauded BMW in the process with a promise of the new Bentley CEO and rebrand position in a major lawsuit.
I was closely following the business deals as they occurred.
And read the full interviews with both Piech and Lutz in Business Week concerning the long range plans for the Bentley label and the holdings that went with it.
This merger of VWs traditional parts holdings and the ones acquired in Britain and Spain gave VW ownership of over 70% if ALL uatoparts and supplies manufactuing in Europe.
Including critical Technology and parts for BMW, Mercedes-Benz, Ford and others
I remember that the TH350 on my 1979 Camaro went bad and I was quoted £2,000 at a gearbox shop to rebuild it.
My local American car shop said that a new crate gearbox shipped in from the States and fitted would only cost £400 and in that price, they also fixed my shifter linkage.
This was back in 1993 .... so 30 years ago now.
I live only 25 miles away from the Bentley factory in Crewe, and have a friend who worked there
when these Arnage models were been made, back then he warned me to never buy one, when they
fail, they do a good job of it, and it costs many thousands to repair the damage.
Here in the UK you can find them at low prices, way less than a typical new car, but they are money pits.
It would be very unfair to attribute the failure to the 'car'. The damage only occurred because the driver IGNORED the overheating information provided by the light/gauge fitted to the dash and just continued driving the car without any coolant in the engine.
Very true, but the harsh reality is that a car that is very expensive when new is also very expensive to repair when
they go wrong, as David has said many times the parts don't get any cheaper as a car ages.
My friend who worked on them said they were all top show, with inferior parts hidden by the wood and leather.
You don't always get what you pay for.
@@georgebettiol8338
Then again, I wouldn't mind a beautiful Arnage T parked in front of my house
They are highly desirable and a very nice way of passing the miles, until it all goes wrong.@@lillexus5589
Could you drop a ford or Chevy v8 in the Bentley
If price was no object, the Bentley. If price was an object, neither.
hahahaha
This is the winning answer!
The Bentley registration comes back as a Blue Daewoo here in the UK....just saying!
And it’s off the rear 😂
Hahahaha! So funny that I'm not the only one that's noticed it's got a rear UK number plate from a blue Daewoo Nubira on the front of the Bentley 😂
And it was last taxed in 2007!
@@DJOllieKA Nubira would be more rare in the US then a Arnage
@lillexus5589 😄 the Nubira would be rare here in the UK also! Most have rusted and have gone off to the scrap yard by now!
i have a 2006 volvo S40 2.4 LI engine non turbo , 170.000 miles and still going strong , as long you keep your eyes in oil, water and good maintenace , it will go forever . :)
Motor oil or vegetable oil? I don't think my eyes would appreciate even a drop of baby oil lol.
I have a 2016 V60 with that same engine set up and I’m now at 125k miles and it’s been all trouble free other than regular maintenance and oil changes every 5K miles. I also have an 89 Volvo 240 with 325k miles and starts every day.
Some people underestimate the importance of maintenance (oil changes is a part of maintenance).
If you treat your machine well, the machine spirit will shine on (unless you're very unlucky and got one of the cars that came out faulty from factory).
The 240 is a beautiful machine!
That red block in your 89 Volvo is bulletproof. I had to have one rebuilt that was seriously abused but that was an anomaly. I have had two white blocks, a 95 960 and a 06 XC70, I love those engines. My current 13 XC70 has the 3.0 T6 and so far it has also been great. I wouldn't touch one of the current 4 cylinder Volvos.
Wizard, how about a used Volvo engine from a dismantler? Surely there has to be a “lower” mileage parts car out there that was rear ended. Those engines usually come with warranties also.
Hi. Volvo master tech here to.
Have worked on Probably 1000+ of these engines, and i have never seen a failiour like that on that type of engine.
I did see something similar on an older t4. The one that is the same as the Ford 1.6 ecoboost.
On that one cyl 3 was completly destroied.
We figgured that the injector was at fault, but we never realy found the actual cause..
Would love to se a folow UP, if the dealer figyres out what happend 😋
Agree - to establish the root cause of the failure would be interesting. However, I suspect 'we, or more importantly the owner' will never know, because the dealer would only be driven by profit - so damaged engine out and off to the scrap yard and new engine in as fast as practically possible.
hey bruh I'm looking to trade in my 2022 xc60 for a used xc90 (want the 3rd row) what year and engine should I avoid? I had a 2019 s60 with the T6 and it was a solid car up till 80k when I traded it for the xc60 T5. The XC60 has been a bit of a disappointment.
@@Jcarini15 they are basicaly all the same. Mening The base 2.0 is the same, whit only yearly variations. And power output variations.
The engines themselvs rearly have issues. There are other problems we deal whit more.
Like bad wiering, leaks, and air suspensjon issues. 🤔
How ever, i would personaly stay away from the diesel, if you only run short trips. And the New mild hybrid cars whit ad blue are werry complex, but have not had to manny issues yet.
Dont know if this helps at all 😂
@@kafarske123 thanks 👍
Do you still work on the B230 engines?
Only 17k left to a million! Yoohoo! I am here since the channel was up and I am so happy to watch every single video. Thank you David :)
Ah, the familiar “door open” sound. I’m in my second SPA platform Volvo. My son has one too! Very comfortable, but ludicrous power from a 2.0 4-pot.
Surprised not to see this at the very top of all comments, but the green label used the M62 4.4 BMW V8, with the addition of 2 turbos (integrated into the manifolds). So did the Corniche for those years, but you're right that the Silver Seraph used the BMW V12 5.4 M73.
wait brain fart, the Corniche rocked the 6.75L!
I can't even imagine buying a $90,000 Volvo to have it die 7 years later
That's like $14.000 per year
Somewhere in California there is a guy screaming " swap in a LS " You know there's one out there😜
It happens. We dont know what happened to this one, but its very often (for all cars) user induced...
Exactly why I’ll always prefer my dad’s MDX (also my friend’s mom used to have a 2021 XC90 and I didn’t like it personally)
Volvo quality hasn't been the same for many many years. You basically buy an unreliable chinese product.
You are a truthful person. Thanks so much for keeping it real. Thanks for everything you do to share what you know.
You can buy those engines for the Volvo for really cheap online like some of them go for a thousand some of them go for $3,000 but still that's a lot cheaper than dealership now that's a used engine with little miles but still that's probably what I would do
The used engine will likely have the same issue as this engine with burning oil. You'd be throwing your money away.
@@paulbolick6143 not necessarily I've had good luck with used engines I replaced one in my Honda with 100,000 miles and it's still running 200,000 miles later it's not always the case but you do need to inspect the engine with a borescope before you purchase it
@@colchronic I'm talking about in this exact example with this volvo. If you replace your 2015-2016 volvo with a used 2015-2016 engine your going to have the same problem. All of those engine have bad rings.
@@paulbolick6143 last time I checked all engines are generally the same they all have shitty oil control rings especially after 2005 there's no voodoo magic about Honda that makes used engines better it's just a matter of inspecting the engine before you buy it
@@colchronic There's nothing to inspect. Your not going to see anything on the engine to tell you the rings are bad. Your talking about generally on any car I'm talking about on this exact volvo. They don't just burn a little oil they empty the oil pan and it's on every 2.0L engine from 2015 to 2016
Seen two of the same exact failures on 2016 and early 2017 Vovlo Xc90 T6's both the same issue. Volvo used bad spark plugs that fell apart and destroyed the cylinder wall. On one of them the scratches were so deep that they created holes in cylinder liner. Just Google 2016 Xc90 spark plug recall. There is NHTSA warning about this issue. The spark plugs are falling apart on the porcelain portion and that's a very hard material. It will decimate valves and liners on contact. Check the ceramic portion of the spark plug. Might be missing or the dealer replaced the damaged spark plug to cover their screw up. They supossed to change them free of charge when the car is on for the routine service. Should be an immediate recall as the issue occurs quickly and can disable the vehicle in seconds causing a very hazardous situation for the occupants.
It's the same problem Ford had with the three valve Triton V8 and thin spark plugs, they'd break apart.
probably what happened and never changed at 100 thousand miles when it was running like shit at 80
That makes complete sense. He did show the spark plug ceramic insulator had broken and that probably took a chunk out of the valve as well as destroying the piston wall.
My Renault 4 was happily running around for at least one year on three cylinders, not even running uneven....
I work at volvo and the older gen 4 cylinders had major piston ring issues. Thankfully the newer gen motors no longer have that issue
So, would you put in one of the new ones in this 2016 Volvo? Seems like that would be the balm for it. 😉
@@jamesburns2232 it's cheaper to rebuild it with the updated parts
If the owners are watching, we all feel for you. I hope respectively they get a good price from a breakers yard, and decent deal on the engine replacement work. And closing in on 1 million subscribers Mr & Mrs Wizard and team That's fantastic ! I remember watching your first videos with Crazy D, the shady car dealer. Seems like yesterday !
“Sounded like it ate a Harley Davidson”.. I nearly sprayed my coffee everywhere. 😂
A coffee fountain
Sounded more like a USSR Gaz engine.
It wasn’t that funny. 👎
I instantly sent this video to my Harley owning brother 😂
Why has that Bentley got an UK rear number plate on the front? It also in a 2004 plate which can’t be on an older car?
I had a customer who was a service writer at a local Bentley dealer. I told him I loved Bentleys, especially the Turbo R. He said he would bring one by for me to look at. The next day, there he was, all smiling, saying come see the Bentley. As we approached the car in the lot (a wedding white beauty) he mentioned he had it up to 130 mph coming up the hill from Palm Springs. What a gorgeous machine! He popped the hood. Coolant everywhere. A growing puddle underneath.
It's very nice to hear you say open the bonnet 🎉 good luck with your programme from Scotland
I figured there’d be a lot of comments posted for swapping an LS into the Bentley, but the one who suggested a Cummins swap got my vote. It would be a toy, and toys always cost money. The Volvo, on the other hand, if it was mine, would become someone else’s parts car.
Have Roadkill Garage drop a LS in that Bentley.
So how would you stop after the engine swap? The brakes and suspension rely on the pumps on the original engine to work 😔
@@paulharrold7151 they didn't think that far ahead.
@@paulharrold7151 engine swaps are more than just pull and drop in other engine. theres usually a lot of little issues to cover. theres no reason to beleive that theres not 2 options here.
1. replace the pumps. im sure electric or belt driven pumps could be added to the engine to keep the systems working. might be hard to match specs, although the belt driven could be easier to fine tune if necessary with adjusting pulley sizes.
2. you're already engine swapping, replace the break and suspension components too. this can vary from very hard with lots of fabrication, to just really expensive if its actually done on a somewhat regular basis on this car(doubt it on a bently) and very likely a combonation of the 2.
will it be easy? no, will it be cheap? well if your a gearhead tinkerer, doing all the work yourself with an LS/Cummins just laying around in your shop, maybe? but still probably not.
it would be an interesting final product though
Not worth it. It would taint the prestige. You're buying pedigree and exclusivity with these vehicles.
Love the channel, Car Wizard! Thank you for all your dedication.
I had a Volvo C30 which was a LOT of fun to drive BUT that's when they went to Chinese ownership and things quickly went south. It got stuck in a small flood and water near the gas pedal ruined the drive by wire electronics and insurance totaled the car surprisingly.
That said - the SEATS were the best ever. Volkswagen seats are pretty good but these Volvo seats are so nice (R-Design) I managed to pull them for installation into the Corvair.
They went south with Ford and using outdated tech, e.g. diesels from PSA. I tested the EX30 and it drives amazing. Can only get better.
As opposed to other comments about the Volvo … I am the original owner of a 2016 XC90 with about 100,000 miles and have been very happy with it. Didn’t buy it because it was a luxury vehicle but because it had the features we needed. Have only had oil pressure sender fail otherwise just normal maintenance. We chose the base model with halogen headlights because they emit full spectrum light and LEDs don’t. The super turbo-charged 2 liter four is not as smooth as a six or V-8 but still puts out 300 horsepower upon request while still giving 28 highway MPG. Opted for the air suspension because we wanted additional off-road ground clearance and has nicer ride than standard suspension. Keeping my fingers crossed that the suspension air bags hold up long term.
The rough idle of the car in the video reminds me of the rough idle of my smart car but then it only has three cylinders.
air suspension and halogens is definitely a pretty rare spec !
I had a 2018 XC90 T6 and it was in he shop, no exaggeration, every other month. It was so unreliable that I finally lemon lawed it in 2022. Also, there’s no way you’re getting 28 mpg on that car. It’s a very common complaint on the forums that the T6 engine gets around 16 - 19 mpg mixed and about 19 - 21 on the highway. Ironically, I never had issues with the engine but I think we had an issue on everything else. Also, the front rotors were so poorly designed by Volvo that they replaced my rotors twice before I even hit 40K miles. They fully admitted the rotor design was defective. They eventually redesigned the rotors.
Have you researched to see if your car might be affected by the oil ring carbon clogging issue of 2015-2016? I don't know if it affected XC90s. but it was in 4 cylinder and 5 cylinder engines. They may have fixed it for the 2016 model year in the 4 cylinder.
I checked my maintenance log and see that I replaced the front brake pads at 38,000 miles (sooner than I really had to) and front & rear pads plus front rotors at 90,000 miles. When we bought the XC90 the new version had just come out and none were available on the dealer’s lot. So ours is a built-to-order car. Also got the head-up display, tow hitch and pilot assist. Love the head-up display. Glad I didn’t pay a lot of money for the pilot assist. We often drive between S.F. Bay Area and Humboldt county (300+ miles) and always get 28 mpg on those trips. Mpg around town is much worse. Prefer to drive our Chevy Volt or smart car for local trips.
If volvo ever puts a 6 cylinder back in the xc90, i'll be first in the queue. As of now, i am not convinced that a 4-banger power plant is reliably up to the task for the long haul, and thats quite defeatist of the volvo image of reliablity but i guess it is still built Tank-Robust structurarily
For the Volvo, the early driveE 4 cylinder engines (14/15/16) and some of the last 5 cylinder engines made (12 to 16) sadly had piston ring issues (low friction). There was a program to apprently fix at least the driveEs permanently. They changed the design and the new ones allegedly no longer suffer from the problem. Google... there is a or was a class action lawsuit out there for the problem.
Problems that were the cross between low tension rings and too long oil drain interval for the majority of drivers.
So basically the owner drove it low on oil or with no oil? Seems to be a theme with modern cars now - Probably because many cars don't have oil dipsticks anymore to check the level smh... My 2015 Jaguar XF is one of them, and now that it's older I just get the oil changed every 2,500 to 3k miles at the most and hope for the best.
The new style oil rings clogged with carbon prematurely, which caused greatly increased oil consumption. Volvo settled the class action lawsuit with the low number of litigants who filed the suit (10 or less) - I believe in 2022. Too bad for all the others out there, including people who bought CPO cars when they hit 70 or 80k miles when the issues arose.. Volvo did cover a lot of repairs, but thousands of people likely were handed bills for $4000-5000. Doesn't seem to be the cause of the issue here though. I bought a 2014 Volvo XC70 with the 6 cylinder (wanted the old smooth 5 cylinder - they put it in the 2016 I think, which I have owned 3 cars having it) but simply would not chance it. You can find used Volvos 2015 t0 2016 with 80k-120k miles - do your research to see if a candidate was affected.
The Green Label Arnage had a turbo BMW v8, while the Rolls-Royce Silver Seraph had the v12.
Parts car? NO WAY - I would install an M62 v8 and manual 6-speed box from a junkyard BMW (using Green Label engine mounts, etc) and drive that Arnage forever.
The BMW V8 really struggled to pull the Bentley along and had to be thrased. It was the very opposite of the understressed 6.75 litre.
@concordelounge no it did not.
Also underpowered isnt the same as understressed.
The BMW engine in the green label Arnage was a 4.4 liter although it pulled the car along okay it was a bit revvy and sales for the green label was poor.
I would never put a BMW motor in anything, nor recommend a BMW to anyone.
Terrible engines. Terrible cars.
I had an early 70’s Caddy and it overheated on the highway. Old oil on the valve covers were in flames 🔥 when I pulled over to look. I drove it a few miles to a garage. The water pump belt had broken and the coolant and oil mostly boiled out 😮 Once cooled down the mechanic replaced the belt and topped up the coolant and oil. It was fine after that, can’t do that with modern engines 😮
Cadillac 472 engines were pretty much bullet proof. Really had to have a bad/neglectful owner to fail. I got 197K out of my '68 Fleetwood Brougham and 165K out of my '73 Coupe de Ville. Both were running strong at their respective sales. Wish I'd kept the Fleetwood, but an offer for the car I couldn't pass came about...hindsight.
@@wagonmaster1974 My 74 sedan had over 300,000 miles and ran strong but the body had rusted badly.
Thanks Mr./Mrs. Wizard for all the videos with knowledge dropped. I might be of an old mentality but my step father who worked on cars on the weekends told me that if you look at a car that you want, you have to ask yourself these questions, "Can I check and replace my own motor oil, can I check and replace my own transmission oil, can I check and replace my own coolant, can I check and replace my spark plugs/water pump/alternator/starter without ripping up the whole top end and are parts readily available at a reasonable price". Using these questions, I have made good decisions that have played out when purchasing vehicles. I have an '06 Trailblazer and '07 HHR that I have been able to keep on the road due to being able to work/maintain myself saving tons of money and with no car payment.
As a brit, a yellow rear plate on the front end is jarring! Haha, a red label is still on my dream car list, beautiful when they are working correctly
They got it off a Daewoo that didn't last long enough to get it's first MOT
@@luviskolYou noticed that too?
Volvo had an issue in late 2015 and 2016 with the oil rings on some engines. I believe all 5 cylinder, and some 4 cylinder. They changed the design, and the new rings were susceptible to carbon buildup. At 80k miles or so, they would stop working, and oil consumption would go way up. Likely not related to this one, but I came across this while researching a new used car. I bought a 2014 straight 6 XC70 Turbo two weeks ago and I love it. If you are looking at a 2015-2016 Volvo with a 4 or 5 cylinder, do your research!
Our 2016 XC70 4 cyl had the oil consumption issue. Fortunately, there was a class action lawsuit and Volvo covered a rebuild with new improved design pistons. Had to prove that we had been changing the oil in it according to schedule, but they did the repair at no cost to us.
I own a small HVAC business and I realize I am put in the same position you are in now Dailey for HVAC repairs. I don't want to be a financial advisor, I don't want to spend peoples money for them, but at the same time there is so much that they do not know that only I can help with. Good video. Thanks
I remember the first cars I bought for my sons. They were the early cars from Korea. One was a newer salvage with about 7,000 miles for $6000. Fairly reliable, he drove it for over 175,000 miles. Sold it cheap when the catalytic converter went out, not worth to replace. The other was Accent for $2k, it had 120k, ran a little rough and the trans was a little rough shifting. It was a bridge car to last a year or so. Giving my son the time to save some money for a newer one. He drove it for over 3 years and 65,000 miles, sold it for $1100.
Green label Bentley had the BMW 4.4 V8, the Roller had the V12
Keep it 6.75 liter but it wouldn't be crewe built its perfect for an LSX swap or Iron block LQ already has the 4l80e
Or just find a RR/Bentley 6.75 from a wrecked car and plug n play.
A 2L turbo 4cyl engine? What can possibly go wrong? The old 6cyl inlines can run a long time if you take care of them. I have one in my '04 Volvo S80.
I had a 98 s90 for several years, and it had the 6 cylinder in it.
I can't remember the mileage, but I think it was around 150k. It ran flawlessly. Sweet engine.
Nothing wrong with 2 liter turbos per se, effectively not any more for normal usage than a inline 6 if they are designed to the same philosophy.
2litre turbo engine in a 2000# car, that is a way overburdened grenade in that 4000#+ behemoth
As an owner of older Volvos, I said the same thing. Heavy car with a tiny motor never works out for the best.
Why this 2.0 call t6? I have t6 3.0 in my s80
It's funny to me because those of us who met David from Tyler's channel know he's got a wicked sense of humor and laugh -- like most guys (including myself) 8 year old humor stuff (teschlong). How he said "let me clean the tip" with a straight face, I'll never know.
I have already driven 530,000 problem-free kilometers (- 330,000 miles) with my 1988 Saab 900.
This car is very basic without options.
I think it would be better to continue investing in this car in the future than to buy a new one.
A friend's Volvo C70's 5 cylinder overheated one day and never woke up. It made a beautiful parts car though. Live fast, die young and leave a good looking corpse.
I have owned three Volvos with 5 cylinder turbo engines. Fantastic power plant, and solid cars. I have two left with the 5, and a newer one with a turbo 6. They do require maintenance, but we brick owners accept that. If you do your own work, it helps keeps operating costs down.
yeah, the white-block engines are fantastic, but they do not like overheating AT ALL. The minute you see that temp gauge rise in 5-cyl Volvo, pull over, turn it off and you'll have a chance to save it. I'm on 421,000kms with a factory 2.4L 5-cyl in one car and 235,000kms with the factory 2.3L Turbo/manual trans in another.
Interesting video. Sad when we have reached a point where some cars can't be repaired economical.
As the owner of a 1961 Triumph TR3A that I restored my self I realize that if it had gone to a specialist for restoration it would not have been worth it.
BUT.......still a great little drivers car no matter the monetary value. Nice work.
It is a great driving car and I have placed in British car shows. It was a pile of parts in a basement when I got it.@@NVRAMboi
The best way to save that Bentley would be to find a hot rod shop or someone with the skills to do an LS swap. Ditch all that English expensive stuff and go with aftermarket suspension and brakes too. Used engines for those are out there but few and far between as well as expensive.
Best way to save Bentley would be to make a photo and take it to scrap metal
LS is the pumpkin spice of engine swaps for soy boys.
Aside from this ruined engine that the driver caused, it's still cheaper to keep a Bentley or Jag running than the GM Acacias you people often have.
Whoever was driving that Bently was a fool. As soon as whatever happened , the pop or the steam coming out , they should have stopped immediately and have it towed. I saved my Porsche's life (2006 911 (997)) hauling a** in France. The serpentine belt popped. I heard it immediately, saw the temperature start to go up, and immediately pulled over. Got towed, and it was only the serpentine belt that had to be replaced couple of hundred euro bucks.
Exactly I only drove my car home because it was an old Corolla who cares if it blows up and even then I waited a good 2 hours for it to cool down
My wife and I owned a 2017 xc90 for 9 months. Very underpowered engine for the size, and consumed oil so we sold it back to the dealer and got a Lexus which is what my wife previously drove.
When the Arnage and Silver Seraph were launched in 1998, the Arnage was supplied with a 4.4 liter V8 from BMW. The Silver Seraph was delivered with a 5.4 liter V12 from BMW. Both of these engines are very good, and offer very few problems. The 6.75 liter engine that the Arnage eventually got, unfortunately offered a number of costly and serious problems.
What serious problems considering this engine was in production since like the 60's?
Do please describe the 'costly and serious problems' and what causes them.
@@petrosaguilar8916 : Red Labes had issues regarding head gasket failures. Later models had terrible failures of the cam shafts, which also can be difficult to get replacements for.
@@htimsid Red Labes had issues regarding head gasket failures. Later models had terrible failures of the cam shafts, which also can be difficult to get replacements for.
With older cars (I have quite a few!) the cooling system is most often where the trouble starts. Old rubber, brittle plastic, dodgy thermo-fans, stuck thermostats, corroded aluminum etc etc... Fitting a $100 metal to metal temperature alarm attached to say the thermostat housing is vital.
LS the Bentley - It's a nice car on the out side! Convert the air bags to shocks!
What could possibly go wrong?
Main dealer parts person here. At BMW, there's actually a good chance that the dealer will charge retail for the replacement engine if it was fitted there. However, many manufacturers will offer major unit intervention on trade sales and so may be able to sell to you (the garage) for less. It's worth an ask if you're a repair shop.
Had a Volvo S70 from new. Kept it well maintained at the stealership. At under 50k miles, I loaned it to a friend for the day. The next, day after he returned it, I noticed a mist coming in through the AC that had a distinct smell of coolant. Took it in that day for eval. After some tear down, it ended up being a cracked block. Not sure how, why, or what the heck he did to that car but was really surprised it happened to a well maintained car not too far out of warranty. More surprised that Volvo (then owned by Ford) did zero to assist even though it was apparently a very rare and weird issue for that engine. Never bought another Volvo even though I loved them and it was my third one.
When your mechanic says 'go get a fork, cause this one is done' you know you have a problem with your car.
The Bentley's failed cooiing connnection is not responsible for the significant heat damage to the engine. The damage only occurred because the driver IGNORED the overheating information provided by the light/gauge fitted to the dash and just continued driving the car without any coolant in the engine.
The car's engine can be repaired - it's just a question of economics - i.e. to expensive to repair with respect to the car's current value.
Thank you, somebody had to say it. Shame the dummy ruined such a nice car.
The Wizard made the right call on both cars
I deal with getting parts, some things like pistons can be no longer available after as short as 11 years. Others say on request on their website, they'll make a batch when they get enough orders for maybe 250, but then won't let me place an order to go towards that total.
If a car is overheating the best thing to do if you must drive is to turn up the cabin temperature to max and put the fan on max.
You may roast but the engine will run cooler at least for a while.
The interior heater will help cool the water.
Make sure that the Air con is turned off.
Not going to help if all the coolant has spewed out of a break like the one on the Bentley. Thats what killed it! No coolant in the cylinder heads, the hottest spot!
@@rogerpearson9081 Agreed. But good tip for a broken fan belt or sticky Thermostat.
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This type of person who owned the Bentley Arnage is probably like the clueless person who buys a brand new 911 Porsche or similar and knows absolutely nothing about cars. EG: They order the Porsche and say , "I want a black one" , not understanding anything about how the car works or the servicing required , they only understand the badge branding or name. The driver of the Bentley most likely kept driving it without coolant not having a clue on the damage being caused, so stupid, avoidable and such a shame . Lots of people want these fancy cars but have no idea. Another common problem on these expensive cars is the owners never stick to the servicing schedules . We just sold a Kona Blue FN 10sp 5.0 GT Mustang recently and it had the optional factory Magna ride suspension, the customer wanted the car but had no clue or idea what Magna Ride was and just wanted a Blue Mustang.
Junkyard motor in the volvo with a year warranty, done.
That's what I was thinking as well. No brainer.
If there is one available.....
It will have the same issue as the one that's bad unfortunately.....
Thanks for another great video. I was sad to hear about the British auto history in repair cost. I had recently seen your Jaguar video on "timing chain" issues. A beautiful Jaguar with a engine time bomb made it not worth fixing. A very good cautionary video. Carry On Sir!
That UK number plate on the Bentley is coming back as a blue 2004 Daewoo, it was last on the road in 2007. It is marked as exported with the DVLA.
Haha, I just looked that up too, and scrolled through the comments just to see if anyone else had done the same thing. The yellow plate being on the front really offends me though.
@@Zeem4 yeah 🤣🤣 I'm a car dealer so couldn't help but do some columbo like research skills 🤣 strange why they stuck the plate on the front of that motor.
@@meatmanifesto I've seen it before in other videos from the US, where someone's stuck UK numberplates on a car just for the effect. There's another channel that kept repeatedly showing a 60s Rover P5 wearing A-reg (1983) plates from a Land Rover, which to me just looks bizarre.
If it's otherwise well-sorted a used engine might be a good option for the Bentley.
Depending on the cost for one, I agree.
It isnt unfortunatley
Seems as if the higher cost to purchase the less they are worth to repair. Having worked on too many Volvos(semi tractors not cars) I can only conclude they are built to fail as quickly and expensively as possible( planned obsolescence) and to be as difficult to maintain/repair as can be designed. Very old Volvos might have had a reputation for quality but that is ancient history.
@@ronv6637 Maybe it's because they wanted to move by 2025 to EV
@ronv6637 In the 1970's into the 1980's in the UK, Volvos had a reputation for "lasting forever" (the print adds at that time claimed that 70% of all Volvos ever manufactured were still on the road), but those days are long gone, and they're now clearly built to be driven, used-up and scrapped.
I find it impossible to believe that the Arnage's engine couldn't be repaired or rebuilt. I've personally done several RR engines in my home garage. They are straight out of 1960 with the carbs replaced with fuel injection. i.e., old school heavy block and head. Before I'd consign that to be a parts car, I'd bore scope the cylinders. If you don't have damage there, it's just a head gasket and the head may have to be skimmed, Based upon the fact that it runs, I'd discount the possibility of bottom end work.
Isn't Hoovie looking for another dumb deal?
Can and is it worth it are 2 different questions. $30k for a $25k car? Just as bad as the $60k battery for a $55k car ( Ioniq 5 with a minor scrape on the battery case recently in the headlines)
They stopped being Volvo's in 1999, my 98 V70XC has 244K on it, runs 20psi boost on mods+tune, and is rock solid. Starts sub-zero in a second every time, mid 150's compression in all 5 cylinders.
My Fordvo, 07 S60R 200K just got a new head, cyl 3 crack in plug hole, above the plug, head gasket, compression fine, no exhaust in coolant, or coolant in oil, just increasing loss of coolant. But was worth the $2500ish to replace the head. Car worth maybe $5Kish, but I love it.
After 2008 became Chinavo's and it's all crap from there.
I'd rip that Bentley's engine out, drop an LS crate motor in it, yank the suspension shit and go shocks/springs. Damn good looking car.
For the most part I'd not ever consider a car "dead" because the engine is gone, there's a huge caveat to that statement though, I do my own work but ONLY on MY cars and would drop another engine in it that I rebuilt myself. When my 1.8T blew the head gasket in my 04 Passat because the past owner didn't refill the system correctly, the neighbors said "well it's scrap now" or "It's off to the junk yard now." Well I'm driving that car now. Have put 5,000 miles on it since 2019. It costed me all of about $650 dollars to do this myself. Throwing away an entire car because the head gasket blew is just a ridiculous thought to me.
Thanks for all your extremely well done and thought out videos Car Wizard. You have a great team and shop, If I had 1/10th your car knowledge I'd be worth something.
I dont know who I love more:Mr. Or Mrs. Wizard.The best couple ever.They both have GREAT youtube channels!
Just a correction, they used the 4.4 bmw v8 in the green labels, then changed to the 6.75 when they changed to a different gearbox.
I sound like a real pendant, sorry Wizard.
Just an FYI, I've worked a great deal on these engines and even when they are totally cooked, if you have the space and time they are quite easy to get running again.
They love boost!! Add the head gasket upgrade and you can get hysterical levels of power & torque out of them.
Correct. It was the Rolls Royce version that had the BMW V12.
The 4.4 BMW was twin-turbo charged to about 440 bhp
The 6.75 liters old Rolls Royce engine was developed at Cosworth during the sixties. BMW kept it during its cooperation from 1998 to 2003, then VW bought Crewe but didn’t receive the marque of RR as the RR Aero Engines had the rights for it and BMW Aero Engines was a development partner which RR could not get out of the game.
So VW kept Crewe and the old 6.75 engine and introduced the 6.0 W12 Volkswagen Engine..
@@bennyhannover9361 I'm afraid you're wrong. The 6.2 was first developed in 1959 and later enlarged to 6.75 to compensate for emissions rules. This engine remained unchanged until the mid/late 90s just components added and improved, it came with or without the turbo, different engine management etc.
Now Bentley and rolls used the BMW derived 4.4v8 and V12 in the seraph chassis during 1998 until 2000, then VW acquired the Bentley mark 1998, and due to complaints by Bentley customers they reinstated the 6.75 after 2 years of development and a legal battle. At this time the 6.75 was tuned by cosworth(pistons, ECU, crank, turbos etc) and went back to the 4L80-E as it could handle the power, unlike the BMW 5 speed unit.
That Bentley would be sweet with a 12v cummins swap.
We's Chamberlain where you at?
That sounds really good. Not sure, but I don't think there is enough depth to the engine bay to accommodate a Cummins 8B Just saying, the old school guy.
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How about finding another Red Label Arnage parts car with different horrible problems, then making one good one? Either that or some interesting engine swap?
The first would require a deep search and good luck, the second lots of problem solving to make things work together.
In the old days you could convert the Bentley to a chevy engine. But now with all the body, chassis computers it's pretty much impossible.
The Rolls-Royce in the Cannonball Run movie had a big block Chevy so yes, it could be done in them there days
Every once in a while Mrs. Wizard has to be thinking…. I thought I left the middle school boy’s humor behind when I retired from teaching.
Yeah, it is a distraction from otherwise good content.
I expect she appreciates it, along with the Wizard's boyish good looks.
It's shop humor... And very mild.
My 65yo mother isn't even bothered by humor like that.
Out of curiosity, can an engine swap be done on the Bentley. Even another brand of engine
Years ago I had an Austin Maxi. The radiator is at the side of the engine, so it relies on the fan to provide a flow of air. I was in the fast lane of the M1 when the fan belt broke. By the time I had crossed the two inner lanes to get to the hard shoulder, the system was boiling.
Bentley needs an LS swap. I said it first! 🤣
Sounds like a LS swap and a set of coilovers
For sure!
exactly my 1st thought. sweet ride then.
LS is the pumpkin spice of engine swaps for soy boys.
you could probably even turbo it. No room in engine bay? Remote mount.
Sure, if you have the expertise to essentially re-enginneer half the car to make it all work.
British number plates on that Bentley
Wrong plate though, should be white plate on the front and yellow on the rear
The plate is for a 2004 Daewoo.
And it should be Blue
For the USA viewers UK plates can be looked up to see the history of the vehicle including the yearly government compulsory inspection
@@cedhome7945 Good point, in the Uk the licence plate stays with the car (you can get a personal one but its a hassle and can be expensive). So most car s have the same plate throughout their life, that means it can be looked up to confirm if it has the MOT (annual safety certificate) and has road tax paid. The MOT is challenging and eventually most cars fail at about 12-15 years and get scrapped.
About 20 years ago I was driving on the highway (in Italy), passing trucks at around 135 km/h, when I saw the engine temperature warning light come on, with a loud "beep" sound that came right after that. My first reaction was to immediately put the car in Neutral; I was able to quickly moove to the right hand side of the highway betwen the trucks (that were traveling at 80 km/h, with a good distance between each other), and kept going to the emergency lane.
Once on the emergency line, I started braking to lower the speed quickly and as soon as I was at a complete stop, I turned the engine off. It took less that 20 seconds between the moment I heard the alarm and the car was now with the engine switched off.
Thankfully, the engine suffered no damage, not even the head gasket; I was very lucky....the conditions of the road at that moment played in my favour.
The overheating issue was due the failure of the belt that ran the water pump.
I spotted the uk registration plate on the Bentley and looked it up. It’s a 2004 Daewoo Nubira 1.8 manual with all of 120bhp. I bet it’s still running!
I'd have the Bentley every time
Go buy it must be at a good price.
Really makes you want to buy a volvo
I don't care one bit about modern Volvos....
My love for them ends after the RWD models (240/740/940) and some the early FWD models (850 and early V70). If it's newer than 01 I don't like it.
Meh. It might have crapped the bed itself, or it might be user induced. We dont know.
This is a rare case on the XC90, they really dont usually dont it
If the castings are still good, I'd go for the Bentley, for sure it is for somebody that can do the mechanical work himself, the newer Volvo are cheap cars with cheap engines and cheap drivetrain If the Volvo was a 100 or a 200 series in good condiotion, my verdict would be the same as for the Bentley
remember that the bentley failure is due to a neglect to a certain point but the failure on the volvo is due to a design flaw, it is all the difference.
The Bentley's engine starts and runs so an 'economic' repair could be undertaken by a knowledgeable home based mechanic. It's very likely that both heads need to be skimmed and at the very worst may also require the a skimming of the block's surface, where it interfaces with the head.
The damage only occurred because the driver IGNORED the overheating information provided by the light/gauge fitted to the dash and the tell-tale steam emanating from the front of the vehicle - and just continued driving the car without any coolant in the engine. Coolant hoses and pipes are not a 'life-of-type' fitment and do fail - so the hose-pipe failure after circa 20 years is not unusual.
I couldn't agree more!@@georgebettiol8338
Wizard I am looking at a 2015 Volvo V60 with the same 4 cylinder turbocharged engine. It has 163k miles. Beautiful one owner car with very clean car fax showing maintenance at the dealership in Albuquerque NM where it was bought from. Should I stay far away from buying it??? I have not test drive it yet it's out if town about 5 hours away. Are many if these engines just not capable of reaching high miles?
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As soon as you said 2016 for the volvo we all knew what the issue was. Those early 4cyl are junk and the SPA platform cars aren’t reliable at all.
it’s always the 2016 xc90s lol. wouldn’t reccomend one to my worst enemy
To be fair it is reasonably normal to have first model years of a generation being less reliable. They've gotten pretty great. Remember, these are like Fords and Chevy's in Sweden, not too many issues.