Does the MG ZS EV have a rust problem? Looking underneath my 1yr old ZS EV.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ก.ค. 2024
- In this video I have a look underneath my 12 month old MG ZS EV and see if these do have an underbody rust problem that is often talked about online.
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As a mechanic I've welded lots of repair panels into lots of cars. I have to say over the last decade, especially with lower body galvanising, cars have become vastly improved against rust. Rubberised underseal and cavity wax help also; sadly this vehicle shows no signs of cavity wax, galvanising and very little sealing. It does however have lots of corrosion evidence beginning everywhere. This car will be a dissolved heap of ferrous oxide 5 minutes after the corrosion warranty has expired.
It's really very sad. As a patriotic car buyer I'd love to see MG do well; we need our national pride back, even if it is via knock-down-kits exported from China to here.
I was watching this thinking, is he being paid to ballsht? A year old and it looks like my 18 year old zafira
Thanks - been looking out for this one. There's a lot of wasted space under the back seat - shame that couldn't be put to good use for storage or extending the battery capacity. Maybe someone will make a range extender pack in the future?
Good to know. These only just arrived in Australia a few months ago and are by far the best selling EV as far as I can tell as they are way cheaper than any other EV out there on the market and still have fairly decent range.
IDK if underbody road sealant would help as a precaution for the AU market, likely a body wrap to stone chips on highway driving would be the best summer option, perhaps window tint too.
If you're driving on/near snow, it's probably worth splurging on underbody and rust prevention due to seasonal salt spray and deicing from public roads, plus road chips making a mess of any existing sealant.
as long as it stays under the luxury car tax limits for Australian buyers, and this can also be done aftermarket. So I'm not worried.
I am generally worried about "first generation" products like this, as they cut so many corners with quality, e.g. the Toyota Prius I test drove in 2016 was a shambles of gaps and squeaking plastic handles, shudder and whining engine sounds, etc. It felt/looked like a secondhand 2010 2 door Kia Rio, at the price of 2 kia's.
It made the "new" camry/corolla hybrid look good. Which was probably the intended result, IDK.
@@Toliman. Oh OK, you'd think that Toyota would be across things like that, but this was the 4th generation Prius in 2016 that came out that year, so maybe there were some flaws. My 16 year old 2nd gen Prius runs like a dream, so not in any hurry to buy the MG EV, but it does look like very good value, given the current cost of EVs at the moment.
Be interesting to look at some other cars, Hyundai Ioniq, Zoe & Leafs...
I will do.
Same video looking under a 2018 Leaf coming tomorrow.
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It would be interesting to have a look under the Peugeot Ion on the lift if you still have it in stock to see how bad the rust the rust has gotten. Some sanding, painting and waxoyl might extend its life by many years.
Glad to see MG keeping the tradition with as many rust traps as possible,looks worse than my MGA!
Where I live they use tons of salt during the winter.I have tried Lanoguard spray on my ZS as some bits looked a bit under protected and I want to keep the car a while.
go to 1:46 of the video. look around at the bolt holes underneath the MG and you will see rust in one of the frame holes. its ether rust or wherewater runs out either way the MGs that were rusting were doing so well inside of the steel membrane, beyond a quick sight inspection and support pillars due to a lack of corrosion covering in the manufacturing process.
What surprises me is the mess underneath, so many places for mud and salt to collect. Also a full underbelly cover would help with air resistance and improve mileage.
I guess any car you are going to keep is worth Waxoiling every so often. Even if most bodies are well protected the other bits underneath rust.
Agree mark looks like bits welled in and water traps all over the place
Whats Wust ?, just kiddin. Good video mate, there is a bit creeping out of some of the seams so I would probably WD40 or DUCK OIL a couple of times a year.
There’s no problem here. Having spent a couple of years in a Jeep dealership, I’ve seen far worse rust on brand new Jeep’s at PDI.
It's a Fiat after all, lol :)
Well the fiat build quality isn't any better than Chinese. Buy a Toyota or something g and you'll know what's normal then lol
@@XcaliburReborn Total nonsense! FIAT's build quality has greatly improved over the past 20 years ..Loads of 15 year plus Panda/Punto's & Bravo's still on the roads abso rust free.
@@ghmusic8116 how much are fiat paying you to comment?
Ask any competent mechanic, they’ll agree fiats are crap…in fact they’ll probably say, “ah..yea..fiats ‘Fix It Again Tomorrow’ we used to call ‘em.”
Not much has changed in 20 years I promise.
@@XcaliburReborn How much are Fiat paying me to comment? 😂
& 'Fix it again tomorrow' (Lol) was a cliché used about FIAT back in the 1970s ..Great reply that 👏😂 Your an Aficionado on Fiat so 🤡
Matt, there was bleed through rust staining on a fair few bits in your video, the 'green' was bleed through rust. A good argument for applying protection yourself when vehicle is new, as I did.
Interesting - what kind of protection did you add? What about the idea of a wrapping service on the underbody?
Seems to me that he skipped some spots, one place with something that looked like a drilled holde, it looked like lots of corrosion. 04:39 upper left corner. 02:49 wheel hub connection. 03:00 upper left corner.
Lots of anti rust sprays like ACF50 and grease you use to protect vulnerable areas, just treat and protect… key is thing is not waiting long periods of time to sort problems. I use all these all these products on my motorbike parts.. no issue
Nice to see saic are carrying on the mg tradition !
I’m not sure I’d be comfortable with a car of 12 months rusting.
I did see a video of a white mg with could only be described as very shoddy under seal. Rust on joints. I recall that car had done less miles.
I’d be interested to see what the dealers have to say - guessing it’s still under warranty?
I’ve always sprayed grease or old engine oil over the chassis & running gear on my cars. Checked re-applied annually, never had a problem with rust!
Ridiculous idea, spend the money on dinitrol or don’t bother. Imagine the pollution if everyone sprayed their last oil change under the car and 80% washes off in the first rain.
That was simply rust staining which is common on the underside of any vehicle, even at joints between bolted panels. This can be seen on any vehicle. There is a big difference between rust staining rather than rust itself. It quite often is where welding spatter has been left on the paint or sealing, again between bolted hinges or bolted panels where metal shaving has been on the bolts or screws and will give rust staining, it does not mean you vehicle is rusting. Having been in the motor trade for more years than I care to remember. I do not think I have seen any vehicle in all those years where I have not seen rust staining underneath a vehicle or under the bonnet of a vehicle somewhere.
Hmm
I would be tempted to apply Dinatrol in the cavities and then use Raptor or something similar to protect the underside.
Will change mine in a couple of years for the bigger pack model in the pipeline. Hey 7 year warranty why worry? MG, Great value car.
the 7 yr warranty doesn't cover rust, paintwork, or trimmings. The 7yr warranty is mainly only on manufacturing......do have a close look at what is covered because it can be very deceiving
Ah ok,covers perforation not due to neglect or from inside out but some cover nevertheless. I live near Brighton so car will probably suffer with sea air we get. Lol. I’ll chop in regularly to not lose so much especially on this deal 😀
@@sussexbikerpillion The perforation warranty isnt with the paper it's written on, from the forums I've read.
@@seanbailey8545 I think MG are a growing brand like Kia and Hyundai where 10 yrs ago. Dealer really helpful and really pleased with the car for the money. Change car regularly to avoid big depreciation so should hold up for that.
Best thing at the moment is not having to queue for petrol. 😅
If you do buy one of these cars, it would be as well to arm yourself with at least 10 litres of Waxoyl, together with the application sprayer, and borrow a pit for a couple of hours. It depends how long you intend to keep the car I guess. If you'd be envisaging long term ownership, it might be as well to keep the Samaritans phone number handy as well.
Do you think it's worth doing in a hot country? where it barely rains and never snows, so no salt on roads?
@@dgurevich1 If the weather is hot most of the time you may be ok, but if there is a risk of condensation in box sections in cooler weather, I'd still try and protect the car if it was mine.
Exactly mate, I work at a garage one came in was already rotten, only a 64 plate
At 2mins 48s there looked like rust to the right of shock absorber and spring damper.
Interesting - I think what we have here is a car that has not been ‘protected’ for the U.K. market where corrosion is highly likely if special measures are not taken. I think a U.K. owner of a new one would be well advised to get a new car protected early. Looking underneath this one it’s not so bad but this sort of problem just accelerates. The exhaust system looked sound though.😉
What a surprise if you don't seal steel from salt you get rust, you not being concerned as you are in the South of England doesn't bod well for the long-liverty of the cars. With salty roads in the north of Scotland this care would be scrap in 5 to 7 years, that is why Fiat & MB had to start galvanizing there body shells. Thanks for putting this on TH-cam
I'm trying to be unbiased as much as I can, but I did spot a few places before you found the "first" bit that seemed to have the beginnings of corrosion on seams. However, my that actually isn't my biggest issue. When looking under it the paint is incredibly sparse and not only do some of the fittings/welds/seams look worryingly low rent, the lack of seam sealer on some parts is a little alarming. As is the lack of stonechip or underside protection. I have a feeling that if not gotten on top of with decent rustproofing early on that it'll probably rust from the seams and joints fairly rapidly.
Having spent 30+years in the motor trade, believe me if you looked at the bottom of any make of car at a similar age, you will see the same thing. It starts on the corners/sharp edges of the pressings where the paint does not adhere very well and is at its thinnest. One of the worst vehicles for the start of this corrosion are BMW's! Any BM built after 2003 is inferior to what went before.
I believe saying any make of car will be like this is unfair. This MG looks fairly low rent underneath if you look closely and also lacks any substantial protection or stonechip. I live right next to the sea and my neighbours 5 year old Citroen C3 is not only FAR better protected and assembled than this, it also has no seam or visible corrosion of any type whatsoever, nor does my neighbours 7 year old Seat Ibiza. My 17 year old MG ZS is actually fairing better in some aspects than this is, which is worrying. All those unprotected seams and open welds will cause issues. I do however whole heartedly agree that BMW started going to pot after the millennium. 😂
Go and have a look at his video.of the Leaf. It's a world apart from this thing
Bought my white ZS (ice) in December 2019. By May 2020 with little use through lockdown it was rusting badly at the sill seams at all the jacking points. Got it fixed under warranty.
lucky you......l understand the warrant doesn't cover rust
@@laciLaszloM It's basically at the dealers discretion.
My 4 year old VW with 60k miles has no rust underneath other than tiny bits on suspension arms. Peugeots I've had have also been good in that respect.
Could you just install those electronic rust proofer (Rust Evader?) Do those things even work?
Nice
Nice vids mate can you do one on vauxhall insignia thanks.
Not until they are electric! I only have EVs here.
Cheap for a reason! I'd hate to see what state it's in at five years old. That is truly shocking..
All cars are the same. My 20 plate golf has more corrosion than that car 😂
It’s not shocking at all I’ve seen worse on brand new cars
Agreed! SAIC (MG's parent) also make Maxus (LDV) vans & nearly every one of them I've seen from 2016/2017 have serious advanced rust problems on the front bonnet & door hinges,
So first you terrify me with the Peugot the other day now this! I think you will have to raise a Soul for me to regain my beauty sleep.
Lot to be said for leaky old sumps pouring oil mist all over the undersides of cars!
It would be interesting to compare with other 1-year old cars. Also, I know that MG reacted to that other video when it came out - I suspect they might have quietly improved something behind the scenes in production.
Meantime, I often wondered if it would be a good idea to apply some kind of a seal to the underbody of a car yourself. Maybe a rubberized hand-painted seal of some kind. Just to bolster the car. Obviously not something that is corrosive but something like a wrapping service on the underbody...
The problem with adding a complete seal of some kind (other than waxoyl, etc.), is that it could cause an even bigger rust problem. Way back in the bad old days of the British car industry, manufacturers used to coat the under body with underseal. This rubberised coating was supposed to seal the underbody completely and stop any rust forming. The problem was (and still is) that there are lots of 'nooks and crannies' that are hard to seal completely with a rubberised sealant.
The result for those 'rust bucket' cars years ago was that tiny holes appeared eventually in the underseal and water was able to enter. This caused rust to develop completely unseen. The first inkling that there might be a problem was when your foot went straight through the floor, or the suspension collapsed!!!
Those weren't called 'the bad old days' for nothing!
@@philreilly6959 I see the point you are making but I am suggesting an after-market sealer in addition to what the manufacturer has done.
@@stevemccormack9948 Phil is right, bitumen type underseals are the work of the devil, they trap moisture against the steel and actually promote corrosion . Waxoyl or similar remains , err , waxy ! It's flexible and does an excellent job for many years I've found.
It's shocking in the modern age of cars that the MG have very little rust protection on the bottom of the floor. That is simply cost cutting, and they seemed to have continued on with the legacy of Morris/Austin 1100 rust buckets!
It wouldn't be a true MG without some rust!
@@GoGreenAutos Well modern cars are supposed to be galvanised, which is why rust is generally no longer the problem it once was. But the underneath of the MG could do with more sealant - it would help with noise as well.
A little rust inhibitors wouldn't go a miss however looks asthough tiy between seams that are spot welded usually because most seams on some cars dont get rust inhibitory coating when at assembly plant also depends of quality of sheet metals but this has probably got anything between 3 and 5 years before it may become the start of an issue get it treated now and if you take care and keep on top of it it will continue to last many hundred thousand miles
It has a British historic name MG it might not be British but the new owners of the brand might have rust and oil leaks as part of the historic charm, they might replace oil leaks with leaking batteries.
Not bad considering the salty atmosphere it lived in.
The most rust I get on mine is on the brake disk through lack of use in these lockdowns.
Yes my zs is two years old and has covered a lot more miles and is still pretty much as clean underneath as when I bought it
I'd be very worried it's almost new. An that in a very hard place to repair
Nothing much there to worry about as far as I can see BUT why is the whole underside not undersealed rather than just some? If those areas that are displaying slight surface corrosion had been undersealed in the factory there would be zero corrosion?
Absolutely, the extra cost in production would be very small.
On this Vehicle it has been left with minimal sealing on that part as that is where the petrol tank would be on the Ice car. Would be better if a little more under seal was applied when battery packs were fitted.
Very few people ever have a good look under their cars as you've just done. If they did , many would have a surprise. Particularly those modern car users who have a "never check nuffink" mindset. Many too who do not know where the bonnet release is on their means of getting about. Ask any AA/RAC rescue call out folks about that. An AA rescue Guy moved in a few doors away last year.
I usually keep my new cars for a long period, usually over ten years. Come MoT time, I always ask nicely if when my car being tested is high up on the inspection ramps, I can have a moment or to looking and taking images of the underside.
I am rarely refused but, on one occasion was refused as they were so busy. As I paidf the test fee, the receptionist said if I took my car along on Saturday morning when they do not do any testing, I can put my car on the ramps and raise it and take as many images as I need. That way I can see what I need to do to enable my usually reliable cars to be protected in the future against Mother Nature who is always on the alert to reclaim what is rightfully hers.
Pays to be polite and ask nicely.
I used to always pay extra for my new cars to be "Undersealed as it was called back in the day. One of the reasons my cars tend to be reliable for lots of years. When ordering my new MG for delivery on 1st January 1983, I asked for additional underseal to be applied. I was told that that would invalidate the five year corrosion~ perforation warranty introduced by Austin Rover Group on that day. So, I did not pay for that. My nice red MG started to corrode and fall apart ... fifteen years and well North of 110,000 miles later. Before it's fifth Birthday, the whole bonnet was renewed. The leading edge of it which is double skinned suffered perforation from within. Probably where the paint/protection cannot reach deep inside the double steel skin. The fine engine lived on in another friend's car.
Before it was two years old, my Rover Montego 1.6LX suffered what the factory inspector described as "Seam Bleed". I used a x10 Hand Lens to have a look at this seam bleed. It appears the razor sharp edges of certain panels spot welded were prone to minor corrosion. It is difficult to put sufficient paint on a razor sharp edge in certain areas. Those same sharp edges unseen in spare wheel wells and boot floors are invariably covered in a few MMs of sealant and then painted over which provides lasting adequate protection.
My Montego was prepared and resprayed under that corrosion warranty. The sharp edges were thus given better protection and ten years later, seam bleed started to reappear in key areas. Unsightly cosmetically rather than dangerous structural corrosion many other cars suffer from according to the vast experience of my friendly MoT tester... yes, including those so called "premium" jobbies folks form queues to pay over the odds for.
If that ZS EV was mine, I'd be tempted to first prepare and cover those key "seam bleed" type areas with a nice protective coating of underseal. They all look remarkably similar in appearance to the early stages of sharp edge seam bleed on my Montego ~ If I intended to keep it for a good few years ~ battery life/replacement will play a large part in that decision.
Your opening paragraph struck a chord with me. Up until just a few years back, I worked with a woman who never checked her car ( as in tyres, lights, oil etc ) from one year to the next. She freely admitted to never having had any car she'd owned serviced. On one particular occasion she'd parked her car immediately next to mine on the company car park (she always arrived after me). I couldn't help but notice when I left work, some of her tyres were showing the reinforcing bands due to being almost bald.......
Had more rust on my Jaguar xfs after 1 year and that's after a blown turbo so I wouldn't worry sposh a bit of rust protection on it .
I move cars for a living on a car transporter. I get to see the underside of all makes and models. It's nothing to worry about even so called premium brands can be like this! The biggest problem is poor cleaning and maintenance by owners. I regularly jetwash under the sills and arches as its not so much the water as the road grime and salt that's the problem.
I usually buy 3 or 4 year old cars so I would defo be worried about that rust getting worse over time.
Manufacturers just dont care it seems as long as it gets through the warantee period.
These have a 7 year warranty though
@@jackhone8702 7 year warantee is good then.
But I'd still be concerned buying it at 4 years old, I tend to keep my cars for another 6 to 10 years if they are good, I've had 2 golfs that I sold on at 16 years old and were still solid, only reason I sold was road tax.
I dont do many miles 3 or 4k so the pollution of running an old car is less than the pollution to make a new one, and being in the UK rust is the enemy.
Interesting to see the underside of the car. Not an area I've looked at on any of the vehicle's I've ever owned.
I've done a few "looking underneath an EV" videos. See th-cam.com/users/GoGreenAutossearch?query=underneath
What is your single post lift? How much did it costs? Would be great to have such at home :)
See th-cam.com/video/IP7Fz-jt_F8/w-d-xo.html
@@GoGreenAutos great, thanks :)
Wish you didn't mention your lift.....I was nervous the whole way through.
First thing that lift gives me the jitters!!I would put a vertical support on the other side after raising the vehicle just to give it more support on each corner arm. That car is terrible underneath there appears to be no rust protection whatsoever on any box section it needs wax in the box sections and all the external metal protecting but the rust is already there! so that being said did it ever have any corrosion treatment in the factory ?? that car will be as rusty as an old tin can in 2 years with the salt on UK roads even washing underneath with a hose pipe will not stop the rust so in 3 years on its first MOT it could have severe corrosion problems i would not buy one but I might PCP one for 3 years and hand it back !
How Is that lift safe!
I would treat the frame and cavities to Bilt Hamber Dynax S50 cavity wax and Dynax UB underbody coating, far better than waxoyl.
Agreed, Bilt Hamber products are top notch.
Yes I like Bilt Hamber products. The next video on the channel will be about the Deox-C product.
should not have to apply any coatings on in the modern age. if we are talking about greener cars, all this should have been done already or else whats the point driving EV to cut back on harm to the environment?
I know that this car is amongst the least expensive, if not THE least expensive car om the market in this sector and one would expect some shortcuts accordingly. However, I'm horrified by the lack of proper rust protection under the car. I bought my Peugeot 307SW new, back in 2007 and when it was delivered it was totally rust protected and wax(?) coated underneath as standard. The car wasn't a flagship model by any means and it has now done 109,000 miles and according to the dealership where it has been regularly serviced, there's not a speck of rust to be seen either outside or inside.
I had been thinking of trading it in for a ZS EV but I don't think I'll be doing that now!
Little bit? It's 12months old and the seams are getting brown. What do you think is happening behind where you can't see!?
hark back to the 1970s
by totally not covering all the underneath you have loads of locations mud and dirt can get so lots of points you can get rust or wet patches that never dry out over time you can see what will happen.
if it more just cut costs and hope that the car can pass the warranty time and no one notices
@@davidsworld5837 I own one of these shitboxes. First thing I did before driving the car was a full undercoating. Already I know I did an good investment doing so.
At the 2 minutes 42 seconds mark there was some rust on the washers under the springs.Hope you spot this.
2:42 :)
With the salt on British roads in winter the best solution to these problems is to Waxoil the complete underbody especially if you intend to keep the vehicle for a number of years. A few pounds spent when new might save a fortune later on, my uncle bought one of the first Vauxhall Victors in 1959 which were famous for rotting away,he used to spray his old engine oil mixed with a bit of diesel to thin it down a bit on the underside before winter every year,he kept that car for 12 years and it was as good as new when he sold it.
rust never sleeps. even a tiny bit will spread.
this is why my gen6 camaro will never see a wet road. it's still like brand new underneath. every october when i shut it down i rub an oily rag over everything
There's evidence of surface rust all over the place... Needs to be treated like an import and given a full underbody rust treatment when new.
"I'm not too worried about it"... If I would see this kind of rust on my 17 years old Corolla ,I would be nervous
It's road salt that kills cars not sea salt. The fact that the car was in the isle of white was probably a good thing as they don't get below zero temperatures so don't use road salt.
I'd be addressing that with something to cover the rust up and protect the seams and welds before it takes hold properly⚠️😯😎👍
That is a fair bit of rust for a car of 1 year old. If I was keeping it, I would deal with the bottom of the car as soon as. Deal with the rust and also apply some sort of underseal, waxoyl to the whole underside. A chap in USA done a video of one of these, rust being the issue.
see th-cam.com/video/pnhUkbJMftQ/w-d-xo.html
@@GoGreenAutos Excellent. I'll have a look at the video of you applying protection to the underside 👍
A coating of something would be good what would it cost MG.???
It might cost quite a lot over thousands of cars. MG might just consider it a risk worth taking, as not that many people will buy a car new and keep it for 7 years. And of course by the time the car reaches that age, and could be on it's second (or more) owner(s), then who might care if the body is showing signs of rust?
The thing comes is the only person who will see the underside of the car is a garage or a MOT test.
the silly thing is cutting costs will result in larger bills in the future. for most buyer who keep the car 2 or 3 years they dont care really.
Proper under car protection should be important to any car maker why would they even want to be linked to any problem and not fix it or an owner not want to have all points on the car sound in case of an accident
There is such an easy fix just coat the parts with a thick coating . it is simple out of site so out of mind how many people would ask to see the underside of the car when buying it or even look. dirt, mud and loads of places it can go just mean lots of points were the car will be attack at
Probably no more than £50 per car while it's on the line being built. But when your out to beat all comers with super keen pricing, such things sometimes get passed over.....
Do you think the thieves will change from nicking catalysts from exhausts to robbing battery packs ?
I had wondered this for a while. They are a bit too easy to remove currently. But then its the weight of the packs makes it more difficult. They would need to use a pallet truck. But a thief could soon arm themselves with the right lifting equipment and van to achieve this.
A thief in Swindon got killed recently when a car fell on him while he was steeling the cat in a car dealers yard. The staff found him in the morning. The chances of a battery pack falling on someone or trapping their leg or arm is quite high, so in a way I hope happens to put others off.
Its the scrap yards that fuel the trade. If they didn't buy the cats, then they wouldn't be getting stolen. If this side of the industry was clamped down on first, then it would stop.
@@GoGreenAutos if they can get 3 or 4 grand they will try
Be nice to see the underside of a year old BMW or VW etc.
A quick brush of some rust converter on the rusty spots would probably solve the problem
My observation on MG generally is that they use multiple smaller pressings to reduce the complexity and cost of larger pressings. This results in more joints and thus potential for corrosion. I also do not like Chinese cars masquerading under a British brand, but that's another issue.
But MG is no longer a British brand as SAIC bought it and LDV too. No masquerading. It was dead and gone. Volvo is now Chinese too, but that wasn't dead before it was purchased. Mini is German etc etc. But at least some Mini manufacturing remained in Oxford (for now, but that's looking flaky as the EV production is now moving to China).
Also the reality was that MG and other British brands were never very good anyway.
@@GoGreenAutos They weren't, but it was a long time ago that they produced any cars. I work very hard at only buying anything made in the CCP dictatorship when there is absolutely no alternative.
@@Swaggerlot Don't blame you, but very difficult to do as China makes almost everything or the components for everything else! Whatever you're watching this video on or typing these comments is probably Chinese. Its very difficult to avoid unfortunately.
If rust starts, it doesn't stop.
Lack of protection is not good and would cost very little during manufacture. Bare metal underneath is a bad idea.
That car lift is a accident Waiting to happen
We have the same lift at work. I'll admit, I was a little scared of it when I first started. But now I'm not. The car does rock precariously though with the tiniest of push or pull on a bolt
You could use two lifts one on each side. That should be stable.
Not a problem now.... but later if left untreated???
Does the 7 year warranty cover rust issues?
It does have an anti perforation warranty. But from what I've heard MG aren't very happy about helping about rust issues.
Just after 12 monts, quite alarming, i give all my new cars full treatments and folow ups just to be safe.
As you drive the water in the near Side gets blasted like a pressure washer onto the drivers side of the car so that’s why it is more rust is starting to appear on the drivers side
Good point
it does not look so bad at all.
I am a mechanic and have had cars inside for the first service / 1 year which looks much worse than that MG! and it is typically the Japanese and Korean cars that are the worst. some of you may know how
mitsubishi I-miEv looks when it is around the 8-10 years.
in my opinion, all cars that drive where there is salting in the winter or are close to the coast should have a complete rust protection, possibly Dinitrol, Mercasol, Suvo or similar.
Ok. I do wonder of the people who are commenting about their/their neighbours/their friends older car with less rust, how many have actually inspected these cars properly up on a ramp? Hardly any I bet!
Impossible to view everything fully jacked up on Halfords axle stands.
Completely agree. Comments here from people who say they are mechanics or in the trade, are saying this is normal. What you don't see, you don't know!
Well I'd be chopping it in pronto and getting a Hyundai/Kia instead.
This isn't great.
That's not bad Toyota's rust well underneath, that said my next car will be a Toyota
I was thinking about buying a MG5, but this has put me off. My 22 year old Passat estate has absolutely no rust underneath at all. This looks to have been inadequately protected to me - what will it be like in twenty years time?
The battery pack will be dead way before having rust issues
Can't imagine those brake pipes aren't going to last too long!
Rot Box, 5000 miles and its like that, that rust is bleeding its not actually rust, the rust your seeing will be from the spot welds and thats even more worrying, the cars clearly rot dipped after initial welding before assembly if they were you wouldn't have any rust, put the leaf on the ramp you'll see nothing
Wow OMG 😱 more rust on this than on a 22 yr old MG Rover I sold recently that was uk made oh and 150k on its mileage... note to self don’t buy a newer Chinese MG it’ll have rusted out with 5 years 🤦♂️
Wouldn't buy a Chinese MG wether it rusts or not. As long as this country is ignoring humans rights and forcing people against their will Nobody should buy Chinese MG.
@@martincoombes6586 What phone do you have out of interest?
@@Roedy_Coedy Phone, tv, computer, refrigerator, vacuum cleaner, microwave.... Ppl are hypocrites
These are going to be so bad in a few years then.
Looks designed to corrode.
@@Swaggerlot that’s what happens when you buy cheap
its not tiny if only around 1year old
so need stamping out now by MG as looks to be not treated right at factory end dont forget if paid that extra paint protection no way would that be allowed in less than 3years
Best to lease these cars, especially evs, second hand value might tank
It's too early to say regarding residuals, but we'll see......
No wheel arch liner#
It's that underside... I want to say bolt hole looking rather more rusty? Pic link below where I've highlighted it... also quite a big peice on the joint a few inches down directly from my highlighted part...
i.imgur.com/vh0L9SC.jpg
How did the Leaf compare ?
Will look soon and put it on the channel
@@GoGreenAutos it would be good to do a 1 year and a 10 year old apx age leaf to see the differences and see were the problem area may be now then leaf owners can do something about it and keep there car longer
No seam sealant. No sale. Anything out of sight is bodged. What else is bodged?
Bit now..a lot very soon. Get it treated and sealed up.
Nothing abnormal. Every thing rust, that why you can buy rust proofing.
Nothing to worry about......the car is only one year old and already showing rust......l think you have plenty to worry about
I’d say rust is the least of your worries if you buy an mg …like I did.
I have seen Mercedes and VW's at this age and mileage with this level of rust.
It only takes a little bit of rust on seals for it to spread deep! If I were you, I would treat those little bits of rust you showed before it is forgotting about! Out of sight, out of mind!
I think it’s a major problem considering it’s only a year old god knows what it will be like in five years, I would suggest leave well alone.
All the racists be like "Its Chinese, you get what you pay for!" Its a car, some are made with more protection that others, they're generally a lot more expensive, end of the day most folk who buy new don't keep for 10+ years these days. I bought a Fiat in 2003 and guess what, even though they had a reputation for dodgy electrics and rust I had neither issue in the 11 years I owned it. I had a Zoe where the paint was literally lifting off the bonnet with a spiders web of rust under the surface, Dealer claimed it wasn't covered under warranty!
i had a jaguar xtype 2.5, it was about 5 years old when i got it...the rust underneath was atrocious...
100%! I'm currently driving a Fiat Tipo 2019 & its a great car (finger's X's no issues at all so far)
Get under there with some hamerite and a brush all sorted
All the manufacturer needs to do is put more under seal on there new vehicles tight buggers !
Mmm, it is rather indicative of every tiny aspect of the build being done/priced to a budget. I guess that's why these cars can be sold at extremely keen prices.........
Seems like someone forgot to rust proof the underside.
no.....not forgot.....the chines just done give a damn
Not enough underbody protection you can see that ,give it 3 yrs and it will be red rusty ,not good
cheap metal cheap car
These silly rumours are often started by let’s say people who are seeing the continuing success of MG and worried by it. Some people would say it is in their interests to propitiate nonsense about MG products which is not justified
Typical Chinese, why buy from the liars who gave the world a pandemic, cars are rubbish anyway, look under a 10yr old Skoda nothing on the floor structure or sills.
But it's not a rumour. The rust was clearly visible........... And I'm not worried by MG's sales success personally. I drive a Kia eNiro. It's just that, given what MG are trying to do, it seems rather short sighted not to finish the car's corrosion protection off fully... They've got this car so *nearly* right for the markets it's aimed at. They just seem to have skimped unnecessarily....
Nobody cares about competition or a badge. That is just childish. What I see here is an attitude of 'if the customer cannot see it use worst quality possible'. Quality is very important. No seam sealant is catastrophically bad quality. Unpainted areas underneath without rust protection as well. If this car is typical, bad rust circa 1970s will give the car such a bad reputation that the brand could be killed off. The manufacturer needs to put proper proofing on cars now and do a recall/replacement under warranty. I doubt they can be economically repaired.
The lack of seam sealant is enough for me to cross the car off my list and I am not being flippant.
Are these built in India??? Hot country so nothing rusts
Built in China