Juice Booster review v2
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ก.ค. 2024
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Because they use a metal housing for the juice booster, there needs to be earthing (protective earthing conductor), in case there is a fault in the device and the fuse (RCD) protects you from current flowing from the metal housing through your body. {hope I could explain it easily and correctly}
zoe owner in a 3-phase nation: heck yes, juice booster should be the default. glad to know they extend the adapters now, too
I believe even for a Tesladriver the adapter is useful as not all Hotels are equiped with Destinationchargers. I already used the Campingadater and the red Volt 400 adapter at Hotels. This fills up the Tesla and the next day you are full and ready to go and you avoid one additional Superchargerstopp.
Hello Bjorn. I rescued this old video because I have now a Juice Booster 2 and I suffered the same error the first time I plugged in than you showed us in the first video. And after several trials in different sockets and also with 2 different cars I discovered the fault: The fault was that the connector of the plug adapter to the juice booster was not properly clamped. That means that it is important to align the red dots on both connectors and then push and hear the “click”. This was what happened in my case.
In any case the Juice Booster is a great product because you can juice up everywhere even in bad installations and you can use as a wallbox or as a portable charger
Regards
3 phase is very efficient for a.c. motors. Refrigerators. Heater blowers all work very well.
The Voltec charger J1772 (used by Volt/Ampera) is I think the best as it is both portable / wall mounted and you can also roll the cable on it. So highly versatile. Oh, and BYW, I had the same problems as Bjorn with earthing
When you drive over the juice booster it is fixed from error. 😋
if he remove the tape, booster will doesn't work again!
Defo!
I think British roads would beat Norwegian for pot-holes and poor finish!!
I guess there are different versions of the Tesla UMC, but in Australia mine is capable of 3-phase charging with the Euro adapter and a correct AU 3-phase plug. It can nearly supply the full 16 kW that my onboard charger can draw. It almost becomes a portable HPWC as far as my car is concerned. Are you sure your UMC is only capable of single-phase?
Edit: I re-watched that section of the video and noticed that your adapter is blue and only has the 3 pins, while my "Euro tail adapter" is red and has 5 pins. Is it not possible to use the red adapter in Norway?
Whatsapp the different with the juice box, the openenergy wall box and the zappi? Doesn't do they all the same, with the last two with more features and for a fraction of the price?
Does anyone know where to find this Norwegian 32A CEE 3phase adapter? I cannot find it anywhere
Can you utilize 11 kW with adapter (three phase IT net 230 v 32 amp) on model 3 with juice booster? Did you try that on MC Hammer ?
hey Bjorn, where did you get the 4 pin 3phase to 3 pin 1 phase adapter??
Some people say when in doubt 'read the manual', but i didn't know it had magical powers to make stuff start working.
How is it usefull for Nissan leaf 2018?
In France we also can get 3phases power
Hey Björn, like Norway and perhaps Albania, Belgium has the 3-phase 32A on a blue CEE plug too 🙂
Too bad the 3-phase doesn't actually use 3-phases and you're still limited to 7.4 kW.
And yes, I would buy it it it actually would give me 11kW (or 22kW) on a 3-phase blue 32A Belgium/Norway network
Bjorn, i am pretty sure there is a mass demand for this in Albania :)
Isn't there a possibilty to have a 400V 16A installed at your house for faster charging than 230V 32A
Can it charge Nissan ENV-200 ? Using 16amp 3phase power supply.
It´s bug with it and schedule departure, maybe worth a retest ? JB have a firmware fix for it.
Did it rain sometimes ago ? This may explain why it is working now. If the ground is wet, the value of your earth is lower than this summer.
It depends of your ground. If it is sand or rocks, this might be the explanation. Usually, the earth is better if the soil is made of clay.
For your own safety, it might be good to add more grounding rods.
You can have a look here : electrical-engineering-portal.com/improve-earth-electrode-resistance
It could be close to the cut off for the safety trip. It was a very dry summer after all.
Hello Bjorn. I still don't understand what a Juice Booster does so I have a question. I'm thinking of buying a Kona Electric. The Kona has 1 phase type 2 plug. Kan the Juice Booster covert 3 phase 11kw current of a public charge point to 1 phase 11kw type 2 for faster charging?
Greetings from Holland.
+Michel Roerdink Nope. Juice Booster is a portable charging station. It doesn't do any converting.
Now I'm curious : what is section 13.4 saying about unbalanced loads ? (2:34)
Hmmm I never heard that it starts to burn by un balancing the network. Agree you should prevent it but it is also a Myth that EV needs that much current that the whole network gets unstable. Even in the house. But you also can install 1 phase 32 A wall outlet and they would un balance the network as well.
Far more a problem is the contact resistance in wall socket. Especially wall sockets outside might got corroded which increases the contact resistance and produces heat. Second point is the wire resistance if the diameter of the cable in the wall is not sufficient. To check this it is essential and very easy.
if you connect to an unknown or new wall outlet:
Generally check the voltage drop when you start to load.
1. Check the temperature at the wall outlet while connected and the car is loading after 15/30 minutes. The plug gets significantly warm when the wall outlet is corroded. It is noticeable if you touch the connected plug. If the plug gets hot I stop charging at that outlet in general.
2. Look for the voltage drop when you start to load compared to the voltage after 15/30 minutes. For Europe if you are below 214 Volt Monitor carefully. Below 207 Volt it becomes critical. Make a temperature check at the wall socket if it gets hot.
Reduce the Current manually that the voltage loss is in the acceptable range.
If you are unsure start with a low current and increase it step by step by monitoring the voltage drop and temperature.
I am loading very often at regular standard wall sockets (Schuko) and experienced a lot of them to be good to get the full 16 Amps. Very good are those which being used or dedicated for washing machines and dryers. Bad experience I had with the outside integrated wall sockets.
Load safely :)
Greetings from Albania!!
I don’t think that 4 pins can deliver 3phases. You need 1 pin for every phase, 1 neutral and 1 ground. Maybe it’s a 2 phase plug?
Old comment, but in Norway (the old power network, IT type) and Albaina, you can get three phase power on the 4 pin plug since its 230v between the phases, the transformator does not a neutral so it means one of the 3 phases have to have "two" loads on them, if you have the 3 phase 32A blue plug you can only draw 16 amps from each phase because one of the 3 phases are used of the two other phases | L1L2L3()to L1 again
so in this example the second phase with have 2x16A drawen from it.
very stupid design, I'm glad we are going away from the IT design :)
If I remember correctly, the last time you were using some red to schuko adapter, I guess there is a earth connection broke somewhere in the red extension cable or the adapter. I guess the earth is properly connected to the blue connector on you house...
Do more reviews. 👍👍👍
Do you plan to test a portable AC-DC charger?
Like the SETEC one (www.setec-power.com/china/20kw-chademo-portable-charger)
It's a bit expensive, but would be awesome for my Peugeot iOn, charging fast from 22kw AC chargers, as Hungary is full of AC chargers, but we have only a few DCs.
So it has 4 pins but is only 3 phase? What is the 4th pin for? Earth, data?
Earth
@@showme360 Neutral
Don't have to turn off earth, just switch to Norway mode as it says on the JB...
Norway's roads can't be as bad as the USA's roads!
Greetings from Albania! 😂
Seems to be a great gadget. However why do you need the juice booster for a Tesla since the car already comes along with a mobile charger? Maybe there are some good reasons, you would like to share with us.
+Matthias Topelmann Juice Booster supports up to 22 kW. UMC goes up to 11 kW.
Bjorn, correct and many thanks for your swift response.
Whataheck? Why is it working now? Again TB delivers lol! :D
Nice try with the “Worst Roads Title” - We have that all sewn up here in Iceland. You’re roads are heavenly compared to ours.
Your roads of course....
@@gumundurorreynisson6733 ever driven through the Australian outback?
This is a magic tape! Do not take her off!
bjørn no u norway dosnt have the worst roads go to poland and there u will see!
I'm disappointed in this company. I've sent them an email a good month ago (when the first video came out) showing interest in their products, and didn't recieve any answer.
Gd follow up video 👍
Norway has the worst roads in the world. I seriously doubt that. If you want to drive on poorly built and maintained roads, go to the UK's Lake District or anywhere in Wales that isn't a motorway.
DC Various Vids I come from Sussex and now live in wales the road are far more professionally managed and repaired in wales than any roads in the south!
I find the video
Good
Probably you never was in Albania in terms of roads :)
Haha, we are the worse
Don't buy that highly overpriced extension cable. You can use any other normal extension cable.
I honestly don’t know why anyone would buy it - every ev comes with a portable charger
No, every EV comes with an onboard charger (inside the car) and a power cord. The thing you refer to as a charger is just a cable with some protection electronics.
Well the normal portable charger will give you 2,4kw at 10A Schuko. With the juice booster you can get up to 22kw at cee 32A. And it has a built in residual current device type a and b to protect your car charger, your home installation and you.
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WOW how come your house happens to have 3 phase???As for the juice booster its working now because you run it over!! LOL
Depends on the country. In germany for example you also get three phases with 63A each, usually.
All houses in Norway is supplied with 3 phases except some apartments and some very old installations. We use much more electricity than rest of Europe, we heat our houses with it because it is so cheap.
In Slovakia you can have 3x16amps, pretty much standard.
@@User888User in Belgium's we have 1 phase with neutral (ex. 40A), 3 phase with neutral of 3 phase without neutral, devided dromen that 2 fase, last two can't be used for havy loads of even 3 phase loading.
You realy should get your socket checked out before You complain in products....
Maybe You have a earthing error in socket....
+mantamannen All the other charging cables I have used there works fine.
Too expensive
dunno. it essentially replaces a wallbox and allows you to plug in about anywhere. depending on your environment, that's the more flexible choice (and typically within the range of cost of a wallbox). so, depending on the situation, it's cheaper. and definitely more flexible
@@davepermen go-e charger is as flexible, but only costs 600€ vs 1000€ for the juice booster.
the go-e is much newer afaik, but is another great choice. it would be my Default choice for a Wallbox nowadays, actually. it's tiny, cute, and can be built into any other form or shape if you want to go fancy. i do love the Juice Boosters ruggedness, though. the cables and plugs are great. was my only charger for over a year, very reliable. but yes, the go-e is great, too, and i hope i can try it out at some point
There are already differences between the two products which in my opinion justify the extra price. For example the material which was used for the outer shell, on one side aluminium on the other side plastic. Then the protection class, on one side IP 67 and on the other side IP 54. One device can be driven over with more than 3 t wheel load, the other device is not. What is surely an advantage of the GO-ECHARGER is the integration into a Smart Home and the possibility to use RFID. That's why I would recommend the JUICE BOOSTER 2 to someone who wants to use it a lot on the road and outdoors, and the GO-ECHARGER to someone who uses it mostly at home in the garage or for companies who want to use the possibilities of RFID.
Really? Alternative?