It would be Yoshi's House + Yoshi's Island 1 + the 4 Switch Palaces + Top Secret Area if you count dead ends, Star World 5 + all of Special World if you count map loops. Remember that the Star Road only leads to Front Door, Special World, and back to itself. Also, you can finish SMW both by the Front Door and the Back Door. There is also some loops in the Forest of Illusion that might be trouble.
yeah, I think you need a minimum of 192 Marios for the ratios to work out. That said, I stopped checking in world 6 which was of course the messiest of all.
w1- the adventure (& Confusion) begins. w2- a cake, decorated in algorithm icing. w3- a deep dive into division & conjunction. w4- snowflakes, splitting & stumped heads. w5- a forest playground of reunion. w6- math. w7- a cloudy refresher from the prior thunder. w8- a conjoined, volcanic finale.
For 3-GH, I’d make it first split between the normal and secret exits, and then split the ones that went through the normal exit, so it’s 25/25/50 instead of 33/33/33
I mean, when you start throwing in switches that’s change the possible paths that come from certain exits but only if a switch of the same or different type has been pressed, it’s gonna be complicated
6:05 Your way of splitting only works if you want to split by level, but if you talk about players, then it's not the case : Instead of splitting 18.75% in three, it should be split in two in the level 3-ghost-house, so 9.37500 for the secret and 9.37500 for the normal end, then split in to in the normal end so 4.6875 for 3-3 and 3-4 for 4.6875. Edit : there may be other cases like this.
@@the_furf_of_july4652 only slightly, that just means that Skyward Stalk wouldn't be one of the 3 most unnecessary levels. The other 2 are still the most unnecessary, they are just even more unnecessary than he thought
@@dragonballhaven1417 it's... Insanely long actually. I'll give you the short version. (which is still long AF) There was a time where I reached my lowest point in terms of mental health, and I had discord installed because I used to talk to a guy that turned out to be a weirdo and had to leave behind. One day I saw a community post here on TH-cam from Memetastic, advertising his discord server, Memecord, and I joined it because I literally had nothing better to do and my life was empty as fuck. There I actually met my first girlfriend, by trying to sing the lyrics from Revenge (Creeper? Aww man...) together. One day, I was fucking around in the general chat and said "person below is gay" and got banned because of it. The thing is, that shouldn't be bannable, I should have been timed out. So Sayori James (The guy you just saw I was talking to up above) was a mod on Memecord and accidentally banned me (don't ask me how, ask him), so we started talking, he got me unbanned and eventually we became friends, by me joining his personal discord server, Clowncord. Not very long ago I left that server because I managed to pull my life together and found different entertainment elsewhere, especially here on TH-cam, but I still do remember James (which isn't his real name btw) and his iconic Profile Picture, and I'm sure he still remembers me for that same reason. TL;DR Discord friend with much more depth than you'd think
I agree, the first impression of the game sure would turn all players away from the game, making them unable to play the very first level and comsequently, all the levels
Its a me! Its a me! Its a me! Its a me! Its a me! Its a me! Its a me! Its a me! Its a me! Its a me! MarioMarioMarioMarioMarioMarioMario 100 likes.... all from a mario probably...
I clicked for an analysis on a bad level design, but this is even better! Cool innovative idea! Edit: I'm glad you guys in my reply section know the alphabet xD
I figured it would be a level in world 3 or 4 simply because there are so many opportunities to skip to the mid-game in the early worlds. Word 5 is weird because it's the only world with more than a single secret exit, and the only one with a secret exit that only lets you skip part of the world you're in, (makes me wonder why they even bothered) but it's edged out because world 5 merges back everyone who took the secret exits in world 1 and 2, as well as those who took the regular exits in world 3 and 4, so even though it splits it's people in 3 and more different directions, there are too many players that enter the level to make a difference. World 6 is out from the beginning because though it splits it's players in many different directions it get every single player that DIDN'T take the ghost house secret exit in world 5, which was itself a small number simply because those who took that secret exit were divided not only by those who took the secret exits in World 3 and 4, but the superfluous secret exit in world 5. And since everything merges at world 7 it's obvious you won't get enough splits in the endgame to do any real damage to your numbers. In the end, the deciding factor was *where* the secret exits were placed in worlds 3 and 4. World 1 cuts your people in half, and so did world 2. Then they were cut in half again the entrance to world 3 and 4. In world 3 the ghost house secret exit splits your players away to go to world 6, but the remaining players immediately go to fight the boss and merge back in the main path; Whereas in world 4 the secret exit that sends you to world six happens at the intersection of another split, and that made all the difference. This is...a weird video. I like it because for the first time I feel like I'm not the only one who has thought way too much about this and other mario games. It's also funny to me that you mathed and flowcharted a mario game. It's almost BDG-esque, but I felt like you were 100% serious about what you wanted to do here, which is cool.
I loved the concept of this video, and would love to see more of these "unnecessary level" videos. I would definitely recommend NSMBW being the next game to try this out. And you probably feel pretty smart after doing all that math huh?
Starmain I recently got it on my switch and play as Toadette because I’m bad. I know that because even as toadette I constantly lose all my lives, about every other level. I still have yet to beat the frosted glaciers ghost house. All I know is I will never use the green help block.
@@haronka yeah xD Also if U want to read my comment on the video, here is the copy paste Note: After I finished the video, I tried my own attempt drawing the entire map , and while doing it, came to this conclusion: The entire video is made focusing on division by level percentages, NOT by players. Actually, lots of things would be wrong I'll take the hardest case as an example: The 7-house, 7-4, 7-5, 7-6 and 7-castle problem. Once N players (in this case 100%) finish playing World 7's Ghost House, there are TWO posibilities: Path A: Normal exit. Path B: Secret exit. 1/2 N players will follow each path. Path A leads to 3 posibilities: 7-4, 7-5 and 7-6 So each of these levels will be played by 1/6 N players, BUT here something never seen in the video before happens: Players from 7-4 and 7-5 will play 7-6 afterwards (if you look at the map). So 7-6 will get the 1/6 N of players who chose playing it after the Ghost House + 1/6 N players who decided to play 7-4 first (because after 7-4 you are forced to play 7-6) and this exact last thing also aplies for 7-5, so an extra 1/6. 1/6 N + 1/6 N + 1/6 N = 3/6 N = 1/2 N Finally, players from 7-6 are forced to play 7-castle afterwards so 7-castle gets an extra 1/2 N of players appart from Path B (previously set)'s 1/2N of players *Grand total plays are:* 7-Ghost House: N 7-4: 1/6 N 7-5: 1/6 N 7-6: 1/2 N 7-Castle: N As N in this case is 100% of players at this point in the game, percentages are: GH: 100% 7-4: 16,666...% 7-5: 16,666...% 7-6: 50% Castle: 100% I hope this is clear because I tried my own calculations on my own attempt and came to this conclusion :P This also applies for lots of other cases through the game, but still great video, I admire how he calculated the World 6 Switches Madness, I still have to solve that Finally, I had to change some direct objects when writing because I am Spanish and syntax works differently in our language. Now finally for real, this took 30 minutes to write on horizontal mode tablet xDDD
@@david_ga8490 You did a serious calculation, wow, How has your comment not blown up yet? Btw Calculating World-6 is still easier than Calculating any later levels in smw :D
@@haronka Nope, I think it didn't even got a like Meanwhile, my comment from the video "the longest 5 seconds of TH-cam" remains at 700 even though that calculation I did there wasn't as serious as this one xD PS: Lol I was thinking about doing it with SMB3 and SMW but maybe it's much harder than I expected (?) lmao
@Tomás Salgado Salinas Yeah this comment aged like milk. I did eventually get all the star coins in New Super Mario Bros. U. Not Luigi U. Yet, and I'm honestly don't think I will
Wouldn't 5-2 only split its percentage 2-ways, not 3? The Marios will either go to the regular exit, or the secret exit. What path they take after the secret exit should split the secret exit percentage in half, not affect the percentage that took the main exit.
@@blue_azul Yeah, which is why it should split 2-ways. There's only 2 paths out of the level. The fact that one of those paths splits further down the line should only split the Marios that went down that path instead of affecting the amount of Marios that went down the main path.
@@QJrocks I just said he's not counting by paths. There are 3 leves that can be accessed from there, so it is split in 3 parts because he's probably counting it, as I said, by levels
I can tell a lot of effort went into the making of this video, and I absolutely love its idea! I would love to see more videos like these in the future!
I love this kind of idea and want you to continue it, but GEEZUS, if I were to do this myself, I'd probably have already lost steam by Rock Candy Mines, all those Switch paths really have you think, I'm still confused after watching.
I don’t know if “unnecessary” is the right way to put it. This was definitely an interesting video and I loved seeing the flowchart of the different paths you can take, but I think an actual analysis of the world layout and the design of the levels themselves would have to be done in order to find the most unnecessary level. The most unnecessary level would be the level that the player has the least incentive to play. I think that discussion topic could make for a great video.
This is really cool! I can imagine it'd be really interesting to do this for Super Mario World, especially if the route through the Special World is counted. Super Mario Bros 3 seems like it would be an absolute nightmare to do a video for. Either you just ignore the cloud and warp whistles (which seems dishonest - of *course* a bunch of Marios would grab two whistles and skip straight to World 8. Real players do all the time, after all), count them as viable options at any point (the "truest" answer, and horrendously complicated to track and explain; it basically means both that almost every level has potential routes to the first stages of other worlds, and that almost any stage is entirely skippable... Not to mention that there's no way to know exactly when each Mario would get clouds, or how many they'd get), or put arbitrary rules on their use (which would be complicated and, for definite, result in the comments section flooding with people who disagree with whatever rules you come up with).
I really like this kind of video, however I have 1 gripe: At points where a secret exit containing level was followed with a split path (e.g. 3-Ghost House) you split into 3. I think you should have split into 2 (one for each exit) and then all the 'Normal Exit Marios' should split again for the split path. Making the secret level take half of the feeding level's Marios and the following 2 levels take a quarter of them, not all 3 getting a third.
Copy and paste from my comment: The entire video is made focusing on division by level percentages, NOT by players. Actually, lots of things would be wrong I'll take the hardest case as an example: The 7-house, 7-4, 7-5, 7-6 and 7-castle problem. Once N players (in this case 100%) finish playing World 7's Ghost House, there are TWO posibilities: Path A: Normal exit. Path B: Secret exit. 1/2 N players will follow each path. Path A leads to 3 posibilities: 7-4, 7-5 and 7-6 So each of these levels will be played by 1/6 N players, BUT here something never seen in the video before happens: Players from 7-4 and 7-5 will play 7-6 afterwards (if you look at the map). So 7-6 will get the 1/6 N of players who chose playing it after the Ghost House + 1/6 N players who decided to play 7-4 first (because after 7-4 you are forced to play 7-6) and this exact last thing also aplies for 7-5, so an extra 1/6. 1/6 N + 1/6 N + 1/6 N = 3/6 N = 1/2 N Finally, players from 7-6 are forced to play 7-castle afterwards so 7-castle gets an extra 1/2 N of players appart from Path B (previously set)'s 1/2N of players *Grand total plays are:* 7-Ghost House: N 7-4: 1/6 N 7-5: 1/6 N 7-6: 1/2 N 7-Castle: N As N in this case is 100% of players at this point in the game, percentages are: GH: 100% 7-4: 16,666...% 7-5: 16,666...% 7-6: 50% Castle: 100% I hope this is clear because I tried my own calculations on my own attempt and came to this conclusion :P This also applies for lots of other cases through the game, but still great video, I admire how he calculated the World 6 Switches Madness, I still have to solve that Finally, I had to change some direct objects when writing because I am Spanish and syntax works differently in our language. Now finally for real, this took 30 minutes to write on horizontal mode tablet xDDD
I would re-title this video "Which level in New Super Mario Bros U is the most unecessary? You structured the video the way you structured your "Starbitless SMG runs" which had a question in the title, so putting a question in this title would seem more fitting.
That was more entertaining than I should probably find math, though I shouldn't really be surprised considering how fun I thought a couple of videos about using formulas to figure out the physics of a Zelda game was.
I thought this would be a discussion about level design or something, but this is a lot more interesting, I’d love to see this in other Mario games (specifically NSMB DS or NSMB Wii)
Prediction: it’ll be a tie. This isn’t really a prediction as much as it is a necessity, really. I don’t know the game well enough to say which levels it’ll be a tie between, but based on the established rules, it is mathematically impossible for it not to tie. Consider that percentages (or amount of Mario’s) in this scenario can only go down at a fork in the road. Since all split paths are split evenly regardless of content within the level or its difficulty to attain, any given level with a lower percentage than the previous level will have its percentage shared with another
I clicked on this thinking it was going to be a critique on some random level's design lol.
Anyway, good video.
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agreed XD
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My brain kinda just shut down at that point.
Miho with a Gun yes it is
😂😂😂😂
This was an interesting idea, you should do this for Mario World since it has a world map similar to NSMBU
Yeah, you should.
That would cause him to go mad.
Yeah it would
Star road would be an mess
Maybe Wii?
It would be Yoshi's House + Yoshi's Island 1 + the 4 Switch Palaces + Top Secret Area if you count dead ends, Star World 5 + all of Special World if you count map loops. Remember that the Star Road only leads to Front Door, Special World, and back to itself. Also, you can finish SMW both by the Front Door and the Back Door. There is also some loops in the Forest of Illusion that might be trouble.
"We're gonna imagine we have 100 Marios"
*proceeds to go into decimals signifying a portion of a Mario*
yeah, I think you need a minimum of 192 Marios for the ratios to work out.
That said, I stopped checking in world 6 which was of course the messiest of all.
his right pinky finger really did play prickly goombas doe 😳😳😳😳😳
he cut Marios into pieces
@@Echo-fo2nf this is the last resort?
To show off the power of flex tape, I SAWED THIS MARIO IN HALF!
w1- the adventure (& Confusion) begins.
w2- a cake, decorated in algorithm icing.
w3- a deep dive into division & conjunction.
w4- snowflakes, splitting & stumped heads.
w5- a forest playground of reunion.
w6- math.
w7- a cloudy refresher from the prior thunder.
w8- a conjoined, volcanic finale.
Arithmetiks.
ALGORITHMS. MATH.
Everything: pretty linear, with a few exceptions
World 6: Allow me to introduce myself
Hey, I guess this is the "few exceptions" part
And 5, kind of
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If we’re pretending 100 Marios are running this game, then does that mean for the levels with decimals that a Mario was cut into parts?
rest in pepperonis
You keep your progress or you keep your kneecaps
I didn't look at it like that until you brought it up.
I'm glad I'm not 0.083333...% of a Mario.
yep!
“Why is it that when _nothing_ happens, it’s always you three?”
*3-3, 3-4, and 3-S*
True dat
I'ma act like I know what your saying and give you the 100th like
@@corpse00xx0 Harry Potter bruh 😹
Half-Blood Prince (Btw Dame Maggie Smith delivered the line so funnily)
Believe me Professor, I've been asking that for the past twelve years.
For 3-GH, I’d make it first split between the normal and secret exits, and then split the ones that went through the normal exit, so it’s 25/25/50 instead of 33/33/33
Agree mate. Not sure why it was split into thirds and I'm also unsure as to how nobody else spotted it
Was gonna say this. That’s kinda poor methodology on his part ngl
Yeah, half marios leave through normal, half marios leave through secret.
Why would it split 33/33/33?
Ya also noticed this in world 5, where after 5-2 and 5-3 he did thirds again when it should be 50/25/25.
@@poejavelski148 yeh you're right
„Beating a Mario game after only clearing 18 levels“
*Nervously sweats in Super Mario World which I have literally never beaten without the Star Road*
I beat Bowser probably over a decade ago.
I escaped the forest for the first time last year.
i didn’t know how to get there on my first play through 2 years ago
@@trash-lol THE FOREST OF ILLUSION THO 😳😳😳😳😳
Are you in Ohio💀
i only visit star road after beating bowser since its technically the second to last world before the special world
2:12 What the teacher teaches you
4:10 What’s on the homework
11:40 What’s on the test
Why is this not top comment
Sounds right to me
wow you either have bad teachers or you're just stupid and it's the same thing but with different variables
Phoenix Henderson it’s a joke
Phoenix Henderson you're fun at parties
I really liked this, it's a vey interesting idea. It was hard to follow at times, but that sort of adds to the enjoyment.
Agreed.
*cough* world 6 *cough*
I enjoy the mathematical approach used, it was really awesome to watch.
I mean, when you start throwing in switches that’s change the possible paths that come from certain exits but only if a switch of the same or different type has been pressed, it’s gonna be complicated
@@PansyPops yes it reminds me of some summoning salts videos explaining things. I also really enjoy it
6:05 Your way of splitting only works if you want to split by level, but if you talk about players, then it's not the case :
Instead of splitting 18.75% in three, it should be split in two in the level 3-ghost-house, so 9.37500 for the secret and 9.37500 for the normal end, then split in to in the normal end so 4.6875 for 3-3 and 3-4 for 4.6875.
Edit : there may be other cases like this.
Same with 5-2 Bridge over poisoned water
5-Ghost House Which Way Labyrinth
7-Ghost House Spinning Spirit House
Does this affect the end result?
@@the_furf_of_july4652 only slightly, that just means that Skyward Stalk wouldn't be one of the 3 most unnecessary levels. The other 2 are still the most unnecessary, they are just even more unnecessary than he thought
I was thinking the same. why would suddenly only 1 third take the secret exit?
Yep, I thought the exact same think
Moral of the Story: World 6 is literally just a maze
Yeah it's just a Maze
"We are going to pretend we have 100 Mario's"
Proceeds to use decimals by cutting the Mario's in peices
@@chickenswiper1495 Mario wasn't cut, he was just sent in a superposition with a half chance of being in each path.
You'd need 192 Marios for each fraction to be a whole number.
@@danielyuan9862 New Super Schrodinger Bros U
@@newusername8387 you may or may not be able to play it
That moment when you realize the least played levels are the most fun and creative ones...
Yeah
Bruh
@@IPikeLancakes yo dude been a while
@@dragonballhaven1417 it's... Insanely long actually. I'll give you the short version. (which is still long AF)
There was a time where I reached my lowest point in terms of mental health, and I had discord installed because I used to talk to a guy that turned out to be a weirdo and had to leave behind. One day I saw a community post here on TH-cam from Memetastic, advertising his discord server, Memecord, and I joined it because I literally had nothing better to do and my life was empty as fuck. There I actually met my first girlfriend, by trying to sing the lyrics from Revenge (Creeper? Aww man...) together. One day, I was fucking around in the general chat and said "person below is gay" and got banned because of it. The thing is, that shouldn't be bannable, I should have been timed out. So Sayori James (The guy you just saw I was talking to up above) was a mod on Memecord and accidentally banned me (don't ask me how, ask him), so we started talking, he got me unbanned and eventually we became friends, by me joining his personal discord server, Clowncord. Not very long ago I left that server because I managed to pull my life together and found different entertainment elsewhere, especially here on TH-cam, but I still do remember James (which isn't his real name btw) and his iconic Profile Picture, and I'm sure he still remembers me for that same reason.
TL;DR Discord friend with much more depth than you'd think
That means so many players would be missing out.
I did the math. Around 9.375% of Mario's would take the fastest route.
But, I was wrong and it's 1.5625 (thanks Micky Stam)
But when I did the math I got 4.16666666667
And somehow I got 69%
@@themagicalpeanut1317 nice
Ghost_DemonLord nice
Jesus
When Rock-candy mines comes:
Brain.exe has stopped working.
Lol
Yes my brain shut down for a sec
my brain was dead for the whole video except rock candy mines and acorn plains
and so did teeth.exe (cause it's rock-CANDY mines)
The real unnecessary level is the friendship we made along the way
Damn
Lmao
Whoever managed to understand the Rock Candy Mines segment I bow to you.
*i predict the least played level will be Acorn Plains Way*
Yes.
Yeah, this is big brain time
I agree, the first impression of the game sure would turn all players away from the game, making them unable to play the very first level and comsequently, all the levels
Yea true
AH IT’S TOO HARD! I DIED FOUR TIMES!
At first I was watching without volume, so watching a hundred mario’s randomly come down onscreen scared me
It's a me!
Its a me! Its a me! Its a me! Its a me! Its a me! Its a me! Its a me! Its a me! Its a me! Its a me! MarioMarioMarioMarioMarioMarioMario
100 likes.... all from a mario probably...
0:52 When you open a bag of chips in class
It’s-its-it’s-its a-a-a-a me-me-me-me Mario-Mario-Mario-Mario
*Super Mario Maker 1*
I clicked for an analysis on a bad level design, but this is even better! Cool innovative idea!
Edit: I'm glad you guys in my reply section know the alphabet xD
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This was breathtakingly nerdy. Salute to you and your math skills.
I figured it would be a level in world 3 or 4 simply because there are so many opportunities to skip to the mid-game in the early worlds.
Word 5 is weird because it's the only world with more than a single secret exit, and the only one with a secret exit that only lets you skip part of the world you're in, (makes me wonder why they even bothered) but it's edged out because world 5 merges back everyone who took the secret exits in world 1 and 2, as well as those who took the regular exits in world 3 and 4, so even though it splits it's people in 3 and more different directions, there are too many players that enter the level to make a difference.
World 6 is out from the beginning because though it splits it's players in many different directions it get every single player that DIDN'T take the ghost house secret exit in world 5, which was itself a small number simply because those who took that secret exit were divided not only by those who took the secret exits in World 3 and 4, but the superfluous secret exit in world 5.
And since everything merges at world 7 it's obvious you won't get enough splits in the endgame to do any real damage to your numbers.
In the end, the deciding factor was *where* the secret exits were placed in worlds 3 and 4. World 1 cuts your people in half, and so did world 2. Then they were cut in half again the entrance to world 3 and 4. In world 3 the ghost house secret exit splits your players away to go to world 6, but the remaining players immediately go to fight the boss and merge back in the main path; Whereas in world 4 the secret exit that sends you to world six happens at the intersection of another split, and that made all the difference.
This is...a weird video. I like it because for the first time I feel like I'm not the only one who has thought way too much about this and other mario games. It's also funny to me that you mathed and flowcharted a mario game. It's almost BDG-esque, but I felt like you were 100% serious about what you wanted to do here, which is cool.
I didn’t mind to read all uv it but ok good job
Soda Jungle: Whew, please let the next world be simpler.
Rock Candy Mines: What is happening.
I loved the concept of this video, and would love to see more of these "unnecessary level" videos. I would definitely recommend NSMBW being the next game to try this out.
And you probably feel pretty smart after doing all that math huh?
This was a super fun video, it’d be really cool if you did this for Mario wii or world in the future!
Oh hello there
He did do that
Merry Christmas.
hi
me at the start of the video: "ok, sounds simple enough"
world 6: "hello there"
Everybody: World six is so complicated!
World five: *crying in the corner*
“100% of players play land of flying blocks”
Me who lost all lives on 1-tower: lies
...
I, too, had severe trouble playing this game when it came out and had to rely on Luigi to beat every level after 1-tower for me.
@@grantcooper5799 but why? The game isn't even that difficult
@@mparagames I exaggerated a little bit, but mostly I just sucked at 2D Mario
Starmain I recently got it on my switch and play as Toadette because I’m bad. I know that because even as toadette I constantly lose all my lives, about every other level. I still have yet to beat the frosted glaciers ghost house. All I know is I will never use the green help block.
I'd like to see SMW in this style. Star World and Forest of Illusion should really complicate things.
Actually the most unnecessary level in Mario world is Valley of Bowser 3 and Valley of Bowser 4. Believe me I have done the math.
@Anup Sardesai Hey, I did the math too, and can confirm that that is true!
Prediction: that Leaf-climbing level
Congrats You're right
But not, there's a mistake on that part of the video, see other comments
3-3 and 3-4 should be played by 4.something %
@@david_ga8490 But hey, I guessed a level that is in the 3rd most unnessesary anyways
@@haronka yeah xD
Also if U want to read my comment on the video, here is the copy paste
Note: After I finished the video, I tried my own attempt drawing the entire map , and while doing it, came to this conclusion:
The entire video is made focusing on division by level percentages, NOT by players. Actually, lots of things would be wrong
I'll take the hardest case as an example:
The 7-house, 7-4, 7-5, 7-6 and 7-castle problem.
Once N players (in this case 100%) finish playing World 7's Ghost House, there are TWO posibilities:
Path A: Normal exit. Path B: Secret exit.
1/2 N players will follow each path.
Path A leads to 3 posibilities: 7-4, 7-5 and 7-6
So each of these levels will be played by 1/6 N players, BUT here something never seen in the video before happens:
Players from 7-4 and 7-5 will play 7-6 afterwards (if you look at the map).
So 7-6 will get the 1/6 N of players who chose playing it after the Ghost House + 1/6 N players who decided to play 7-4 first (because after 7-4 you are forced to play 7-6) and this exact last thing also aplies for 7-5, so an extra 1/6.
1/6 N + 1/6 N + 1/6 N = 3/6 N = 1/2 N
Finally, players from 7-6 are forced to play 7-castle afterwards so 7-castle gets an extra 1/2 N of players appart from Path B (previously set)'s 1/2N of players
*Grand total plays are:*
7-Ghost House: N
7-4: 1/6 N
7-5: 1/6 N
7-6: 1/2 N
7-Castle: N
As N in this case is 100% of players at this point in the game, percentages are:
GH: 100%
7-4: 16,666...%
7-5: 16,666...%
7-6: 50%
Castle: 100%
I hope this is clear because I tried my own calculations on my own attempt and came to this conclusion :P
This also applies for lots of other cases through the game, but still great video, I admire how he calculated the World 6 Switches Madness, I still have to solve that
Finally, I had to change some direct objects when writing because I am Spanish and syntax works differently in our language.
Now finally for real, this took 30 minutes to write on horizontal mode tablet xDDD
@@david_ga8490 You did a serious calculation, wow, How has your comment not blown up yet?
Btw Calculating World-6 is still easier than Calculating any later levels in smw :D
@@haronka Nope, I think it didn't even got a like
Meanwhile, my comment from the video "the longest 5 seconds of TH-cam" remains at 700 even though that calculation I did there wasn't as serious as this one xD
PS: Lol I was thinking about doing it with SMB3 and SMW but maybe it's much harder than I expected (?) lmao
Can't believe I just watched him walk through every level and secret exit in this game. Actual "I don't need sleep, I need answers" moment
All other worlds: elementary and middle school math
World 6: H I G H S C H O O L M A T H
Me: Man, this video is good so far! I wonder what’s next!
Me after Rock Candy Mines: *w h a t t h e f u c k i s t h i s*
Me: following along and understanding the video
Rock Candy Mines:
my prediction for the most necessary level is 1-1
Mine is the final fight.
It's actually Red Hot Elevator Ride
Vidyut Venkatesan red, hot, and presumably elevator ride
The math teacher: “It’s actually really simple.
Also the math teacher: 11:40
This man deserves more subs
One of my favorite channels
thanks for the content
This channel is soooo underated it's unreal
World 6 was the mathiest thing. This whole diagram you made also helps new speed runners route the game, so it was worth it
After so many months of doing Challenge videos this is refreshing it's good so see you back
And to think I was planning on playing through this entire game, playing every level, and collecting EVERY star coin. I ready doged a bullet here
@Tomás Salgado Salinas Yeah this comment aged like milk. I did eventually get all the star coins in New Super Mario Bros. U. Not Luigi U. Yet, and I'm honestly don't think I will
This is a super original idea and you need to make this a series PLEASE!
My mom: you should stop watching TH-cam and actually study math
Me: shows her this video
lol
Your mom: Understandable have a great day
I personally think it's awesome that you're trying new things! ^^ as for the video itself, it's a really cool + creative concept.
bruuuuuuuuuuh, good one, I needed my brain to work a little since quarantine
I laughed
Not gonna lie, I nearly dissociated for most of the world 6 rant.
This is a really unique concept. Nice!
Wouldn't 5-2 only split its percentage 2-ways, not 3? The Marios will either go to the regular exit, or the secret exit. What path they take after the secret exit should split the secret exit percentage in half, not affect the percentage that took the main exit.
The normal exit is pointless so they have to take the secret exit
Yeah this is exactly what I thought as well @QJrocks
I think he's counting it by levels, not by paths
@@blue_azul Yeah, which is why it should split 2-ways. There's only 2 paths out of the level. The fact that one of those paths splits further down the line should only split the Marios that went down that path instead of affecting the amount of Marios that went down the main path.
@@QJrocks I just said he's not counting by paths.
There are 3 leves that can be accessed from there, so it is split in 3 parts because he's probably counting it, as I said, by levels
I can tell a lot of effort went into the making of this video, and I absolutely love its idea! I would love to see more videos like these in the future!
I love this kind of idea and want you to continue it, but GEEZUS, if I were to do this myself, I'd probably have already lost steam by Rock Candy Mines, all those Switch paths really have you think, I'm still confused after watching.
I don’t know if “unnecessary” is the right way to put it. This was definitely an interesting video and I loved seeing the flowchart of the different paths you can take, but I think an actual analysis of the world layout and the design of the levels themselves would have to be done in order to find the most unnecessary level. The most unnecessary level would be the level that the player has the least incentive to play. I think that discussion topic could make for a great video.
This video is really original and interesting. Nice work!
This is really cool! I can imagine it'd be really interesting to do this for Super Mario World, especially if the route through the Special World is counted.
Super Mario Bros 3 seems like it would be an absolute nightmare to do a video for. Either you just ignore the cloud and warp whistles (which seems dishonest - of *course* a bunch of Marios would grab two whistles and skip straight to World 8. Real players do all the time, after all), count them as viable options at any point (the "truest" answer, and horrendously complicated to track and explain; it basically means both that almost every level has potential routes to the first stages of other worlds, and that almost any stage is entirely skippable... Not to mention that there's no way to know exactly when each Mario would get clouds, or how many they'd get), or put arbitrary rules on their use (which would be complicated and, for definite, result in the comments section flooding with people who disagree with whatever rules you come up with).
I liked this. I’d honestly like to see something like “The worst item in FE Three Houses”.
Its antitoxin
@@aquaficaldx1296 this lmao
Prediction: It's either in Rock-Candy Mines or Sparkling Waters.
those are worlds
Those are worlds not levels not to burst ur bubble
He meant a level inside of the worlds he guessed
Dang bro you 2 are so smart
@@thekirbygamer9009 he knew that buddy
I don’t know why this was recommended but I absolutely loved it. Keep up the great work!
the amount of tedious math this guy did for a random video game topic would make matpat proud
12:42 I think I'll go back to something simple... like quantum mechanics.
I really like this kind of video, however I have 1 gripe:
At points where a secret exit containing level was followed with a split path (e.g. 3-Ghost House) you split into 3. I think you should have split into 2 (one for each exit) and then all the 'Normal Exit Marios' should split again for the split path. Making the secret level take half of the feeding level's Marios and the following 2 levels take a quarter of them, not all 3 getting a third.
The split is made with this logic : first you decide what level you want to play next then you take the normal or secret exit accordingly,
Copy and paste from my comment:
The entire video is made focusing on division by level percentages, NOT by players. Actually, lots of things would be wrong
I'll take the hardest case as an example:
The 7-house, 7-4, 7-5, 7-6 and 7-castle problem.
Once N players (in this case 100%) finish playing World 7's Ghost House, there are TWO posibilities:
Path A: Normal exit. Path B: Secret exit.
1/2 N players will follow each path.
Path A leads to 3 posibilities: 7-4, 7-5 and 7-6
So each of these levels will be played by 1/6 N players, BUT here something never seen in the video before happens:
Players from 7-4 and 7-5 will play 7-6 afterwards (if you look at the map).
So 7-6 will get the 1/6 N of players who chose playing it after the Ghost House + 1/6 N players who decided to play 7-4 first (because after 7-4 you are forced to play 7-6) and this exact last thing also aplies for 7-5, so an extra 1/6.
1/6 N + 1/6 N + 1/6 N = 3/6 N = 1/2 N
Finally, players from 7-6 are forced to play 7-castle afterwards so 7-castle gets an extra 1/2 N of players appart from Path B (previously set)'s 1/2N of players
*Grand total plays are:*
7-Ghost House: N
7-4: 1/6 N
7-5: 1/6 N
7-6: 1/2 N
7-Castle: N
As N in this case is 100% of players at this point in the game, percentages are:
GH: 100%
7-4: 16,666...%
7-5: 16,666...%
7-6: 50%
Castle: 100%
I hope this is clear because I tried my own calculations on my own attempt and came to this conclusion :P
This also applies for lots of other cases through the game, but still great video, I admire how he calculated the World 6 Switches Madness, I still have to solve that
Finally, I had to change some direct objects when writing because I am Spanish and syntax works differently in our language.
Now finally for real, this took 30 minutes to write on horizontal mode tablet xDDD
@@david_ga8490 we don't understand what you're saying please stop
@@martmine4618 This is EZ bruh lmao
XDDDDD
@@martmine4618 Now for seriously, this is not that hard, I wasn't even expecting reading this comment
This is probably the most random level of all time...
I love it
this is a level?
First video i’ve seen from you, and it’s good. Thank you.
SPOILERS
How Ironic that these levels are in the water world lmao
How is that irony
@@jaketakeda6786 a lot of people dislike water levels and find them useless/wish they were skippable
The only platformer in which I actually enjoyed water levels was Rayman Origins (and Rayman Legends). The rest is just meh
My prediction will be a level in either World 3 or 4. There are so many splits up to that point.
Correct
I'm a simple man. I see CMeeCraft, I click.
you C him?
I'm predicting a level in Frosted Glacier or Sparkling Waters
This is the only genuinely good video I’ve watched in a while, keep it going.
You need no feedback. You leave me speechless in a fantastic way. Keep making videos for as long as possible
I would re-title this video "Which level in New Super Mario Bros U is the most unecessary? You structured the video the way you structured your "Starbitless SMG runs" which had a question in the title, so putting a question in this title would seem more fitting.
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Forgot a speech mark.
Yeah, the title makes it seem like it's an analysis on a terrible level in the game, which I thought it was going to be.
I like the video! I would like to see the same for other Mario (and DK) games!!
This is how youtube determines what it wants to remove
i didnt expect this but that was genuinelly super interesting, please do more on other mario games with overworld maps
Im subbing. The fact you put in the effort to do this much is amazing not to mention i really enjoyed it
I wonder what important childhood memory i lost to create space in my mind for the knowledge obtained in this video
it was probably worth it if you're brain deemed this more Important.
I love how to video is relatively easy to follow and then world 6 just happens
You should do the other NSMB games, Along with others with games like SMB3 and SMW
This was a very cool idea. You just earned yourself a subscriber.
That was more entertaining than I should probably find math, though I shouldn't really be surprised considering how fun I thought a couple of videos about using formulas to figure out the physics of a Zelda game was.
The levels in RCM are the bane of my existence when I try to get all star coins.
Same
Ur here again......
13:41 awww so wholesome they all unite
When you got to rock candy mines I was sooooo confused
There were several lazy shortcuts you could have taken while answering this question. Mad props for all the effort keeping it accurate!
I thought this would be a discussion about level design or something, but this is a lot more interesting, I’d love to see this in other Mario games (specifically NSMB DS or NSMB Wii)
As a graph fanatic, this was fantastic
[SPOILERS BELOW]
(and I guessed the beanstalk level as the most unnecessary one and I was right !)
Please put spoilers at the start of your comment because some people haven't watched the full video yet :)
done
Thanks 😊
Which is a shame because it’s the most unique one
The most unnecessary level: *slow Auto Scroll*
Here's a drinking game, every time he says the name of the level unnecessarily, take a shot. You wouldn't last past 7 Minutes I Bet.
The most necessary video to watch at 4 am.
we need this kind of video for more games ! I love learning complicated and useless stuff, it fascinate me !
I enjoyed the video
Fun fact: There are 10 levels with a clear rate of 100%
@I am Chara you dont count
This isnt the legend we deserve, but the hero we need
Maybe do this for nsmb wii because while it doesn't have a connected world it does have secret exits that lead to new worlds
This is unnecessarily detailed and incredibly impressive for a video about a Mario game
Dang! I could hardly follow those numbers at all, but that was amazing!
Great job on this!
Prediction: it’ll be a tie. This isn’t really a prediction as much as it is a necessity, really. I don’t know the game well enough to say which levels it’ll be a tie between, but based on the established rules, it is mathematically impossible for it not to tie. Consider that percentages (or amount of Mario’s) in this scenario can only go down at a fork in the road. Since all split paths are split evenly regardless of content within the level or its difficulty to attain, any given level with a lower percentage than the previous level will have its percentage shared with another
Couldn't you have a path like this?
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@@joepat1279 wow you actually made a diagram to proove your point lol
Well he was right anyways, it was a tie
This is like if Ceave Gaming was your math teacher.
'How many Marios would be in each level in Rock Candy Mines? Well, it's actually surprisingly simple to figure it out.'
Imagine doing this with streets in real life
This was honestly really entertaining to watch, I hope you make more of this, because if you do, you've got yourself a new subscriber ;)
Jesus, I admire your dedication to the task. I would have given up in the middle of the calculations on World 6.