@@cathalfolan8441 I guess you must not be much of a car guy if you think no older cars are worth talking about. This car is one of many from any manufacture that hit something special that people enjoy experiencing. There is Porsche, Ferarri, American cars, virtually every manufacture. So I guess by that logic all modern cars are trash.
@@akacurmurdar1 e36 and e90s had four doors. E30 doesn't count. It all depends on what your definition of an M3 is. I like my M3s to have four doors as I need a versatile tool and that my F80 fulfills amazingly. If you don't need a bigger car and want an M car for mostly track and canyon driving, then the M2 is the one to have
Definitely the best new BMW especially with a manual. As a 8 time BMW M owner including a 2016 M2 and a 2011 1 Series M, I agree this is the best M2 but still not as good a the 1M. The biggest difference is hydraulic steering vs electric. Drive them back to back and its a noticeable difference. Plus the 1M appreciates every year. I agree with your 1M example, my 1M has 19k miles on it and is worth $15k more than I paid for it, so I drive it for free and then some. The M2 CS will probably have zero depreciation for the first year or two like my 2016 M2 did, but then it will depreciate with the new 2 Series on the horizon and then another M2, M2 Comp, and a new M2 CS about 5 years from now. 4 years from now would be the time to buy a slightly used M2 CS. I would expect manuals to sell for about $60k-70k and DCT to fetch about $50-60k on the used market in 4 years. Look at the huge depreciation on the M3 & M4 CS. If I was buying now, for $85k I would take a 2016 Cayman GT4, Evora 400, or Porsche 997 Turbo, or for one car that does everything at this price point a used Porsche 991.2 manual (which I purchased) or AMG GTS. Still good to see BMW making a drivers car and offering a manual trans, just not worth $85k with so many other great choices out there and I am Mr. BMW
Come to North and West Yorkshire Britain most of the roads are like this. The five-mile road to my old house was like this and every other road around Sutton Bank, Easingwold, York. Scotland and the lake district are mostly roads like this also. 1000 of miles of them.
@@Chris-se3nc fantastic daily. superb build quality for the class. feels more solid than the F30 I had before, but definately more 5-series than 3-series of old. I got the adaptive suspension and it does a reasonable good job of masking the weight while attacking, but you certainly still feel it. Engine is a masterpiece but basically useless if you want to stay within the law. To be honest, I'm rather torn. It's an absolutely great car on its own merits, but there is very little 3-series DNA left.
I love it. Absolutely love it. I've been a huge fan of the M2 non-competition due to the engine and exhaust tone (M2 comp has always sounded "off" in my mind). But this M2 CS changes the game again. I feel like it sounds amazing when you're driving it, and much better than the M2 comp engine but I need to say it, still not as nice as M2 non-comp! Great review Matt!
Great video that helped me pull the trigger on one today! Love the car! I had a 2017 M2 and was underwhelmed. This is a totally different car! It is expensive for an M2 but I'm hoping it will hold the value better than a competition. I do wish it had an armrest though :)
I'm am so glad to have a well sorted e36 M3. This M2 is trying it's best to be the same size under modern safety limitations. I can't wait to snag one used in 15 years.
@Peder Hansen I'm sorry but you are mistaken. The M2 CS is front engined, RWD w/ 4 seats, The Cayman GTS 4.0 is mid-engined, RWD w/ 2 seats. Two completely different animals.
I mean they arn’t really that comparable. If you want a true sports car with one of the best chassis and driving dynamics in the world then get the Porsche. If you want one of the most fun cars out there with 4 usable seats then get the M2.
The problem with this car is that it creeps into cayman territory with that price tag and that’s where it loses me.. who would chose this over a gts or gt4?
People who want back seats and don’t mind a front engine experience. A BMW person who wants exclusivity and might already have other toys so they aren’t cross shopping? You bring up a good point.
the thing is......it is an amazing car and with limited production BUT ill go for a used 991.2 gts or even a turbo for that money in witch those 2 would smoke the m2 cs and most importantly it is a Porsche.
Probably people who want a more unruly car over the hyper focused mid engine GT4. Same thing with the people that bought a 1M over a Cayman back in 2011. They are completely different in character imo.
WHAAAT 87 grand?! I’d wait a few years and pick it up for a sizable discount lol....Everything aside another great review Matt. Merry Christmas to you and your fam!
Well, it's more expensive than M4 comp, where you get nicer interior, PSS tires, bigger wheels, HUD, keyless entry lol. Here, you give up an armrest for more $$$. The reason to get this over M4 is rarity or if you prefer how it drives, not the price.
@@hellario2 I guess a lot of people are hoping it retains value, but with a starting price of $85 - $90k... All recent BMWs feel numb, sterile/fake engine noise, NA engine > lag of a turbo engine, and aren't all that special. I'm sure it will go like stink.
Comfort access module (keyless entry) was located in the center console, along with rear ventilation. These were deleted eith the adaptation of the CS-specific center console. Having a CS car I will say that I do like the specific center console, I don't need nor do I miss the armrest one bit. I do, however, wish that BMW found a way to relocate the CA module. Either way, great car that I'll own for the rest of my life. It's that good.
I’m starting to think I’d rather have the DCT on some of these cars than a manual. Just the fact that these cars shift the way they do makes up for not having a 3rd pedal. I’ve never driven an m2 but I have an m240i and even that zf8 is awesome. I love the way it cracks on upshifts. I can’t imagine how awesome the DCT would be.
I've got a regular manual M2 facelift, picked that up around 40k€ last year. The CS is like 100k€ out here, I don't recon it can worth an extra 60k€. Also for 100k€, i'll buy a 991.2 S or a cayman gt4 second hand. The price on these new cars are insane.
A very well deserved 1M, a seriously deep One Take library that has something for everyone. $83k is a lot, but hopefully collectible and retains value.
Adaptive dampers have been available for almost all 2 series models except for 218i, 220i, M2 and M2C. Heck, my 5 year old 228i has that option. - This is the first modern M that I’ve been excited about and would consider owning after a spec’d out entry level 2 series. Have fun driving that thing for the week!
I can vouch for the quality of the Viofo cams. I own two A119s, which I had mounted in my previous car and loved them. The only reason they're not mounted right now, is, that I got a car from my employer now.
You took issue with aspects of the M2 Comp when you drove on track, but I didn't hear the same "frustrations" in this review of the CS on the road. I have seen other reviews that loved the M2 Comp on the street but thought it was not ideally suited to track use. How much of the difference in your conclusions, about these two cars, if any, is attributable to street v. track performance?
Mine is on the boat headed to the states now. I own a M235i. I love how it drives. So I wanted the best variant of the 2 series. Is it worth the 23 over the Comp that is a hard sale. But this was an emotional purchase for me. I plan on keeping the car forever. So it is not a car that I am looking to get out of in a few years. I will baby it by keeping it in storage in the winter, because of the limit run for it. I do plan on getting a GT4 once it is paid for. I want to own the best of the entry level cars that the Germans make.
Dear Matt, please, with sugar on top, get a gimbal, that you can use while going around the car. Anno 2021 having bouncing walk around simply does not cut it, since the videos are so great and the reviews priceless.
The M4GTS was way before it’s time and with how much hate it got, I don’t understand how the CS variants are doing so well with double the production numbers. Yes the GTS was 132k but when you compare it to a fully specd m2cs at 110k for carbon parts that come standard if not an option on standard M models, or a m4cs for 117k with triple the production numbers. Glad I picked up my M4GTS at 74k w 3k miles 15 months ago, only 2 left for sale nation wide under 100k
Yes! Away with burble tunes! Either the car does it originally because of how the engine is set up, or it doesn't. Damn, it just dawned on me that in two days, I'm turning in my 1 series leaser. :(
Here in Europa this car is being produced as long as there is demand and it's not limited in numbers or time (currently it isn't the most successful BMW model in the world). You can find lots of 0-miles, cheap CSs as people mainly go for the Comp, which is more or less the same car, but much cheaper. For instance, I had a 2016 M2 (I was one of the very first owners here Switzerland) and I was considering to replace it with a CS... but in the end I went for a 2012 1M Coupe with just 3000 miles, and believe me, this wasn't the cheapest option.
Yeah the comfort access thing is weird. I have a comp (also 6-speed) and there was no option to have or not have it, just came standard. Maybe they save a tiny bit of weight on the hardware by not including it with the CS?
@@timmietz Yeah agreed. Its the same with the comp, I get bummed out every time i see those little triangles on the mirrors that would obviously light up in other cars as a blind spot warning.
I guess the one thing this car has going for it in regards to its price tag compared to its peers in that price territory is the usefulness of it and practicality. It could be an all year car and a grocery getter where as the C8 not so much.
Beautiful car, just wish it came without m3 noises. It really is sub par compared to a base m2 with a nice exhuast. Great review though, congrats on hitting 1 million, you guys deserve it
Engine note sounds great to me- sounds like a nice high revving n/a BMW 6 vs the much more muffled sound of the newer turbo. Maybe just down to mic placement.
As the new Audi RS3 will not be sold here in Canada I was thinking go getting the 2023 M2 instead. What do you people think???????/ Great review Matt!!!!!!!!
Ceramics suck unless you track competitively. Steel brakes all day. Less squeaky daily driving and far less amount of money 💰 😅 but they sure look and are amazing 👏 😀
I have a M2C (flashed with m4 GTS software) and I'm just not in love with it. My problem with the M2 in general is they make decent daily drivers but they're not exciting enough for a "fun car", this thing being almost the same I just don't see it being worth anywhere what they're asking for it. I also have a GT350R and holy shit that car is so much better, I imagine a standard GT350 would make a great compromise.
The price tag is a no go but i don't know because i just cant get my mind around a dsg. I love my 3 pedal specially if a fast car. So from a German enthusiast i would say "im good" and you can keep that at the dealership.
What's the point removing the armrest, when they left all the other creature comforts? If they really wanted to save weight, they should have done a full 'GTS' and got rid of the back seats etc
Car looks great and lively, sounds kinda blah like all the turbo Bavarian 6's. Matt, is that hat a flex-fit? I don't have need of your storage services, but I wouldn't mind supporting a guy who understands the elastic superiority over snap-back ball caps :) Big skull team over here.
Question for you Matt (Probably already been asked in amongst 700+ comments).......M2CS or M2C with manual transmission, Ohlins suspension (can be dialled to give more compliant ride than stock), chassis setup to give more steering feel and front end grip and 500bhp tune? The M2C becomes a LOT of car for the money.
Probably as close as we're going to get in a modern M car to capturing what we had with the E46 & E92 models, but still not the sound or throttle response of the N/A engines.
Loved my OG M2 with the m performance exhaust on it. Wish I could have kept it for the daily. Probably would have ended up with one of these if the dealer had bothered their ass to stay in touch after me having two cars off them. Still feel like if they’re getting rid of the armrest then the overall weight loss needs to be more dramatic. The DCT box is great and the kick in sport plus was always exciting 🤣
I love that 15 years on...the E46 M3 is still being brought up. I bet BMW engineers are sick of hearing about it, but what a legend.
Even better when you improve brakes and update suspension. Car is so well balanced.
They wouldn't still be hearing about it if all modern M cars weren't over priced trash, except this one apparently.
@@cathalfolan8441 I guess you must not be much of a car guy if you think no older cars are worth talking about. This car is one of many from any manufacture that hit something special that people enjoy experiencing. There is Porsche, Ferarri, American cars, virtually every manufacture. So I guess by that logic all modern cars are trash.
Yes Sir still is a benchmark
3700 pounds is 400 pounds more than the e46 m3. All this talk of carbon fiber bullshit and still 400 fucking pounds more expensive than the e46 m3.
Congrats on 1 million. You don’t know this but we’ve been together for about 10 years now
Not impressed. Doug has nearly 4 million.
@@jcdenton8750 why dont you go get 1 million subs
Thanks!
@@jcdenton8750 lol, coming from someone with "no subscribers"
@@jcdenton8750 Doug is a weirdo tho. So not a big deal
I love how Matt doesn't sound very enthusiastic in the beginning and then as the video progress and things heat up he gets more and more excited
yeah pretty fun to watch
I have no idea why they call it the M2, this is clearly the real M3.
So true.
Doesnt have four doors.
@@hovnojede010101 Because old M3's didn't come with 2 doors? Are you sure about that?
@@akacurmurdar1 e36 and e90s had four doors. E30 doesn't count. It all depends on what your definition of an M3 is. I like my M3s to have four doors as I need a versatile tool and that my F80 fulfills amazingly. If you don't need a bigger car and want an M car for mostly track and canyon driving, then the M2 is the one to have
Then what's the M4?
You can really tell in the video how good the cornering is. Kudos to Matt for such smooth driving too, of course.
New car prices are astronomical, I can’t believe this thing costs 80k+.
cant wait for the 100k turbo miata...
You’re right. It’s literally every vehicle on the market.
@@jessicalacasse6205 sounds like a joke now, but at the same time, I wouldn't be surprised if they did... 😂😭
If you really want an M2 just get a pre-lci base model for $35k or less. The n55 Still a very tunable engine with loads of potential
Sounds like inflation is hard at work.
7:45 glad i'm not the only one who says brz "berrzzz" lolol
Same here. In my native language (Bulgarian) "berz" or "burz" means "fast".
"Wow...It does mask its speed well, that was an awfully big number" 🤣🤣
The early morning lighting in that canyon is gorgeous!
The roads, and that BMW.. Pure driving pleasure..
Moved out of LA this year so it’s nice to watch you rip through these canyons because I certainly miss these roads. 🤘🏽
Definitely the best new BMW especially with a manual. As a 8 time BMW M owner including a 2016 M2 and a 2011 1 Series M, I agree this is the best M2 but still not as good a the 1M. The biggest difference is hydraulic steering vs electric. Drive them back to back and its a noticeable difference. Plus the 1M appreciates every year. I agree with your 1M example, my 1M has 19k miles on it and is worth $15k more than I paid for it, so I drive it for free and then some. The M2 CS will probably have zero depreciation for the first year or two like my 2016 M2 did, but then it will depreciate with the new 2 Series on the horizon and then another M2, M2 Comp, and a new M2 CS about 5 years from now. 4 years from now would be the time to buy a slightly used M2 CS. I would expect manuals to sell for about $60k-70k and DCT to fetch about $50-60k on the used market in 4 years. Look at the huge depreciation on the M3 & M4 CS. If I was buying now, for $85k I would take a 2016 Cayman GT4, Evora 400, or Porsche 997 Turbo, or for one car that does everything at this price point a used Porsche 991.2 manual (which I purchased) or AMG GTS. Still good to see BMW making a drivers car and offering a manual trans, just not worth $85k with so many other great choices out there and I am Mr. BMW
well said. All anyone has wanted them to do since 2011 is fix their steering feel and feedback :(
I just going to post that this is a nice offering from BMW but would take a 16 GT4 for the money.
The sponsored dash cam combo is something that people should actually consider
agreed, the viofo a119v3 and 129 are excellent quality cameras that are much better than the competition
One of the few I actually watched, including his poor choice in parking spot. LOL
Glad to hear they still haven’t figured out a way to make the S55 not sound like an advertisement for Beano.
I smell what you did there
BMW hasn’t but the aftermarket has.
Equal length midpipes fix it but BMW no care
Lmao haha
This was always my favorite road for an early morning drive back when I lived in SoCal... Miss it!
What road is this??
@@mitchcohen3367 I want to know too!
tell me plss
@@mitchcohen3367 straight north from Azuza.
That road is dreamy, my gosh
Come to North and West Yorkshire Britain most of the roads are like this. The five-mile road to my old house was like this and every other road around Sutton Bank, Easingwold, York. Scotland and the lake district are mostly roads like this also. 1000 of miles of them.
@@itisjustacomment any specific post code areas in Yorkshire you'd recommend ? I live in the Midlands so would love to have a look
Matt, be careful when you put on your seat belt so it's not twisted. It can be deadly in case of a bad accident. Great video.
“It does mask its speed well”. This is exactly why I love driving my BMW and why I appreciate heads up display.
and exactly why I get in trouble
Exactly the problems with all new cars. Cant even wind out 1st on my M340i without being way in trouble.
How you liking the M340? Picking up mine next week
@@Chris-se3nc fantastic daily. superb build quality for the class. feels more solid than the F30 I had before, but definately more 5-series than 3-series of old. I got the adaptive suspension and it does a reasonable good job of masking the weight while attacking, but you certainly still feel it. Engine is a masterpiece but basically useless if you want to stay within the law.
To be honest, I'm rather torn. It's an absolutely great car on its own merits, but there is very little 3-series DNA left.
Best looking BMW of the year. Change my mind.
And probably next year as well...
I won't cuz I agree with you.....controversial take but my favourite modern BMW
This one, specifically, yes. I’d take the 5 series refresh for full model range, however.
M3CS is better looking IMO
@@falcaofalcao528 so we can agree the best looking podium would be all CS’s
Side comment: haven't seen a sound issue in forever. Great work on improving the audio!!!
Best looking front end by far in the entire 2021 BMW lineup
I would get a Porsche Cayman GTS 4.0 for sure.
I have 981 GT4 all the way specially for that money WOW!!
@@trentcardwell8620 yeah definitely, it's a cool car but for that money you can get something special.
That won't break i must add😅
Not very special
@@andeleputo89 the Cayman GTS 4.0 is not comparable to this
@@dragospahontu except it is.
The adaptive damper is available on M240i, just not on M2 or M2C.
It’s also on my 2016 m235i
lmao the whole M2 line up is an intricately designed scam
@@SenszR ill agree to that!!!
This is adaptive M suspension from M cars higher up the chain. The M lights have a totally different feel and presence to the M cars.
@Andrew Wise okkk. My M2 is my daily. I don't track it. I love it. Don't want a 240i. Peace
I love it. Absolutely love it. I've been a huge fan of the M2 non-competition due to the engine and exhaust tone (M2 comp has always sounded "off" in my mind). But this M2 CS changes the game again. I feel like it sounds amazing when you're driving it, and much better than the M2 comp engine but I need to say it, still not as nice as M2 non-comp!
Great review Matt!
M2 CS and M2 competition have the same S55 engine.
Great video that helped me pull the trigger on one today! Love the car! I had a 2017 M2 and was underwhelmed. This is a totally different car! It is expensive for an M2 but I'm hoping it will hold the value better than a competition. I do wish it had an armrest though :)
it's gonna be a legend car
I'm am so glad to have a well sorted e36 M3. This M2 is trying it's best to be the same size under modern safety limitations.
I can't wait to snag one used in 15 years.
I have a stockish M3 as well, what would you recommend for the streets?
@@afroman5531 An old 1990s Honda Civic.
@@TheDwightMamba lmao had a 1997 ex civic. Still miss that thing bad
It’s hard for me to choose this over a gts 4.0 cayman. I’d have to stay really light on Porsche options
People want to compare them but I don't see them as competitors at all, both are special in their own right.
@Peder Hansen I'm sorry but you are mistaken. The M2 CS is front engined, RWD w/ 4 seats, The Cayman GTS 4.0 is mid-engined, RWD w/ 2 seats. Two completely different animals.
@Peder Hansen Similar price level doesn't mean competitors. That would be like comparing my RS5 Sportback to a Cayman GTS 4.0. It's 🍎 vs. 🍊
I mean they arn’t really that comparable. If you want a true sports car with one of the best chassis and driving dynamics in the world then get the Porsche. If you want one of the most fun cars out there with 4 usable seats then get the M2.
@Peder Hansen But if we are using your logic they are all about the same price and same performance so we compare them 😁
The problem with this car is that it creeps into cayman territory with that price tag and that’s where it loses me.. who would chose this over a gts or gt4?
GTS and GT4 will be $15k and $25k more out the door, respectively.
Only 2000 worldwide. Cayman built numbers would be much larger. But yes, I'd prefer the Cayman GTS / GT4 any day over this.
People who want back seats and don’t mind a front engine experience. A BMW person who wants exclusivity and might already have other toys so they aren’t cross shopping? You bring up a good point.
the thing is......it is an amazing car and with limited production BUT ill go for a used 991.2 gts or even a turbo for that money in witch those 2 would smoke the m2 cs and most importantly it is a Porsche.
Probably people who want a more unruly car over the hyper focused mid engine GT4. Same thing with the people that bought a 1M over a Cayman back in 2011. They are completely different in character imo.
WHAAAT 87 grand?! I’d wait a few years and pick it up for a sizable discount lol....Everything aside another great review Matt. Merry Christmas to you and your fam!
With that production run number and that hype surrounding it and its driving experience you might have to wait for quite some time to get a discount.
its actually more now
How's the waiting for a few years and picking one up for a 'discount' going? Pretty sure they're still $80k+ lol.
considering the price of an m4, this isn't even badly priced
Other than the M2's interior looks so cheap with that nasty textured plastic crap
Well, it's more expensive than M4 comp, where you get nicer interior, PSS tires, bigger wheels, HUD, keyless entry lol. Here, you give up an armrest for more $$$. The reason to get this over M4 is rarity or if you prefer how it drives, not the price.
@@hellario2 I guess a lot of people are hoping it retains value, but with a starting price of $85 - $90k... All recent BMWs feel numb, sterile/fake engine noise, NA engine > lag of a turbo engine, and aren't all that special. I'm sure it will go like stink.
And the m4 is ugly AF. 2 series is indeed the best of BMW. My wife loves her 2018 in mineral grey.
Man you were shredding those sharp turns like butter !
Comfort access module (keyless entry) was located in the center console, along with rear ventilation. These were deleted eith the adaptation of the CS-specific center console. Having a CS car I will say that I do like the specific center console, I don't need nor do I miss the armrest one bit. I do, however, wish that BMW found a way to relocate the CA module. Either way, great car that I'll own for the rest of my life. It's that good.
This car is fantastic. My favorite BMW
this video had an old school feel to it. i like it
It is amateurish with factual inaccuracies
I’m starting to think I’d rather have the DCT on some of these cars than a manual. Just the fact that these cars shift the way they do makes up for not having a 3rd pedal. I’ve never driven an m2 but I have an m240i and even that zf8 is awesome. I love the way it cracks on upshifts. I can’t imagine how awesome the DCT would be.
Matt Congrats on the Mill subs been here for about 7 years or so :)
I've got a regular manual M2 facelift, picked that up around 40k€ last year. The CS is like 100k€ out here, I don't recon it can worth an extra 60k€. Also for 100k€, i'll buy a 991.2 S or a cayman gt4 second hand. The price on these new cars are insane.
The best thing about how much the m department hated the f chasis m3 and m4 is how much they fell in love with the 2 series
A very well deserved 1M, a seriously deep One Take library that has something for everyone. $83k is a lot, but hopefully collectible and retains value.
Matt I ordered a 2023 M2 on January 24th. I can't wait for her to arrive.🥶
one of your better videos. that thing positively flies. you were hauling ass and the confidence shows.
Shout out to The Dollop! Caught that pod on the radio around 3:30. Nice Matt!
Love that carbon ceramic squeak!
Adaptive dampers have been available for almost all 2 series models except for 218i, 220i, M2 and M2C. Heck, my 5 year old 228i has that option. - This is the first modern M that I’ve been excited about and would consider owning after a spec’d out entry level 2 series. Have fun driving that thing for the week!
Looks like the front gate entrance road. Kaneohe Bay, MCAS. Back in the day I use to rip that highway in my 300z. 1992
Yo he should of been 3 million by now he has done so much for our community where is the support
a review a day must take a whole lot of work good job
Matt doing launch control in any car - lets smash it ... that's not it . oh well ...
Bright blue over gold, looks as good as a WRX.
It's hard to believe that BMW makes a car as elegantly cool as this thing and also makes the bloated, buck-toothed M4.
I can vouch for the quality of the Viofo cams. I own two A119s, which I had mounted in my previous car and loved them. The only reason they're not mounted right now, is, that I got a car from my employer now.
Finally, a good sounding modern BMW
Big congrats on 1 million Matt! How would you compare this M2CS to the older BMW 1M?
You took issue with aspects of the M2 Comp when you drove on track, but I didn't hear the same "frustrations" in this review of the CS on the road. I have seen other reviews that loved the M2 Comp on the street but thought it was not ideally suited to track use. How much of the difference in your conclusions, about these two cars, if any, is attributable to street v. track performance?
I would take the GTS 4.0 all day for the money, but the M2 CS looks pretty awesome.
I bought the M2CS 6MT but only because I already have a 997.2 GT2RS and I really hope to buy a GT4RS in early 2022.
Good take! you nailed the analysis on the comps. Has the most usable back seat of its peers which is why I ended up buying one... manual of course ;)
Mine is on the boat headed to the states now. I own a M235i. I love how it drives. So I wanted the best variant of the 2 series. Is it worth the 23 over the Comp that is a hard sale. But this was an emotional purchase for me. I plan on keeping the car forever. So it is not a car that I am looking to get out of in a few years. I will baby it by keeping it in storage in the winter, because of the limit run for it. I do plan on getting a GT4 once it is paid for. I want to own the best of the entry level cars that the Germans make.
you are mobbing this car lmaoo i love it. just beatin the balls outta that 400 hp is awesome to watch
Congratulations on 1 million Matt, now try to find a not “newish” car to drive for us OGs 🤘🏼
Dear Matt, please, with sugar on top, get a gimbal, that you can use while going around the car. Anno 2021 having bouncing walk around simply does not cut it, since the videos are so great and the reviews priceless.
Hopefully some used M2C’s hit the market now. Been watching for these for a while now. Great preview show. Thanks!
How did this M2CS compare to the Dinan M2 S2 (the original M2 with the full dinan package)?
Great review Matt. Loved how she won you over the more you drove her. Awesome M car, but that price tag sheesh.. ;-)
Def one of BMW'S best ever
The M4GTS was way before it’s time and with how much hate it got, I don’t understand how the CS variants are doing so well with double the production numbers. Yes the GTS was 132k but when you compare it to a fully specd m2cs at 110k for carbon parts that come standard if not an option on standard M models, or a m4cs for 117k with triple the production numbers. Glad I picked up my M4GTS at 74k w 3k miles 15 months ago, only 2 left for sale nation wide under 100k
Matt, the front tires are only 245s and the rears 265s.
I was gonna say that after watching the entire video.
Yes! Away with burble tunes! Either the car does it originally because of how the engine is set up, or it doesn't.
Damn, it just dawned on me that in two days, I'm turning in my 1 series leaser. :(
Here in Europa this car is being produced as long as there is demand and it's not limited in numbers or time (currently it isn't the most successful BMW model in the world). You can find lots of 0-miles, cheap CSs as people mainly go for the Comp, which is more or less the same car, but much cheaper. For instance, I had a 2016 M2 (I was one of the very first owners here Switzerland) and I was considering to replace it with a CS... but in the end I went for a 2012 1M Coupe with just 3000 miles, and believe me, this wasn't the cheapest option.
Would you say, it’s ‘really nice’??
Seriously, what a machine!!
Mine was $93.5K with 6MT and Ceramic Brakes. I was wondering about the comfort access too! I figured that only 6MT cars don’t have it anymore.
Yeah the comfort access thing is weird. I have a comp (also 6-speed) and there was no option to have or not have it, just came standard. Maybe they save a tiny bit of weight on the hardware by not including it with the CS?
@@freedbeefpontoons maybe. It is a nice feature. Would have been nice to have. Along with the HUD and blind spot assist.
@@timmietz Yeah agreed. Its the same with the comp, I get bummed out every time i see those little triangles on the mirrors that would obviously light up in other cars as a blind spot warning.
wow, those vistas, what a road.
2015-2020 are best, and then the beaver grill, I’m trying to find a low mileage one
Beaver is what the B in BMW stands for
Nice job Matt on 1 million subs! Hope everything is going well with your mega garage! Peace dude...
Good lord you're carving up those roads.
I guess the one thing this car has going for it in regards to its price tag compared to its peers in that price territory is the usefulness of it and practicality. It could be an all year car and a grocery getter where as the C8 not so much.
Beautiful car, just wish it came without m3 noises. It really is sub par compared to a base m2 with a nice exhuast. Great review though, congrats on hitting 1 million, you guys deserve it
What I would do to be able to run some lead-chase with you in the mountains. Love watching you carve up the canyons.
Engine note sounds great to me- sounds like a nice high revving n/a BMW 6 vs the much more muffled sound of the newer turbo. Maybe just down to mic placement.
Awesome review... I’m in love with my M2 Comp... but really want one of these...
As the new Audi RS3 will not be sold here in Canada I was thinking go getting the 2023 M2 instead. What do you people think???????/ Great review Matt!!!!!!!!
I understand it's the ultimate 2 series but that price hurts. Good thing it's a limited run for BMW. M240i is the sweet spot for 2 series.
Ceramics suck unless you track competitively. Steel brakes all day. Less squeaky daily driving and far less amount of money 💰 😅 but they sure look and are amazing 👏 😀
I have a M2C (flashed with m4 GTS software) and I'm just not in love with it. My problem with the M2 in general is they make decent daily drivers but they're not exciting enough for a "fun car", this thing being almost the same I just don't see it being worth anywhere what they're asking for it. I also have a GT350R and holy shit that car is so much better, I imagine a standard GT350 would make a great compromise.
Lifestyle inflation at its finest 👌
I bought my wife an M240I convertible and I love that little car. It is really surprising what a little girly convertible will do.
The car the M4 should have always been 😍
Camera Quality looks amazing
The price tag is a no go but i don't know because i just cant get my mind around a dsg. I love my 3 pedal specially if a fast car. So from a German enthusiast i would say "im good" and you can keep that at the dealership.
lol the turnout at 6:41 is pretty much entirely covered in used rubber, love to see it
What's the point removing the armrest, when they left all the other creature comforts? If they really wanted to save weight, they should have done a full 'GTS' and got rid of the back seats etc
Matt: saying subjective things in a matter-of-fact way
Car looks great and lively, sounds kinda blah like all the turbo Bavarian 6's. Matt, is that hat a flex-fit? I don't have need of your storage services, but I wouldn't mind supporting a guy who understands the elastic superiority over snap-back ball caps :) Big skull team over here.
12:56 "No thats no it, thats not it. Smash it? No lol
Question for you Matt (Probably already been asked in amongst 700+ comments).......M2CS or M2C with manual transmission, Ohlins suspension (can be dialled to give more compliant ride than stock), chassis setup to give more steering feel and front end grip and 500bhp tune? The M2C becomes a LOT of car for the money.
Probably as close as we're going to get in a modern M car to capturing what we had with the E46 & E92 models, but still not the sound or throttle response of the N/A engines.
I only watch these videos to see the turning radius part.
I’ve been waiting for this one!
I am waiting for the new 911 gt3RS
What a beautiful drive, I need to move somewhere with curves and nice weather.
Not Cali unless you enjoy crushing taxes and authoritarian dystopia
I saw that Murano Cross Cabriolet during the dash cam ad
Loved my OG M2 with the m performance exhaust on it. Wish I could have kept it for the daily. Probably would have ended up with one of these if the dealer had bothered their ass to stay in touch after me having two cars off them. Still feel like if they’re getting rid of the armrest then the overall weight loss needs to be more dramatic. The DCT box is great and the kick in sport plus was always exciting 🤣
The "small" M car is about the same size as the E34 M5
yep.. I've got a turbo E34 535i weighs less than this too.. 3300 pounds