2D6 Dungeon Play Testing - A Print and Play, Roll and Write, Solo Player, Dungeon Crawler
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- Play Testing 2D6 Dungeon - A Print and Play, Roll and Write, Solo Player, Dungeon Crawler. Session 1.
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I've only just found 2D6, my assessment is that it is a work of genius.
Well that's very kind of you to say hernando...thank you ☺
I really like how “Liberating Prisoners” is part of the character sheet.
You’re literally in a dungeon, with cells and prisoners. And you’re not just in a random underground.
Thanks Jonathan!
liberating black slaves should be another @@TobyLancaster_DR_Games
Ok, you got me, you're innovative combat system on the excitement of that last combat were too much I had to go pledge! 👍
Best combat I have seen in many RPG's
Thanks Andy
If i hadn't already got the digital version before watching this video i would definitely pledged for it after watching this. Looks like it is going to be great fun.
Thanks John
Seriously enjoy this game. Great job appreaciate the lovely distractions this provides from the mundain
Fantastic chuck. I'm pleased you're enjoying your dungeon delving. Thanks for the comment
Great video, wish I would have come across your game earlier as I would have loved to have watched this series live. Fortunately I found your game with 17 hours left on the Kickstarter so I was able to back it in time!
Alarian I am streaming later 8pm GMT so hopefully see you there!
I like the clear-cut good versus evil design philosophy, especially as you mentioned the difficulty of playing out a negotiation single-player. The least obtrusive way I could think to implement such a mechanic would be for some/all creatures to have a bribery stat or some other statistic which elaborates some specific condition under which they will not fight.
Thanks! I am looking at negotiation aspects for future expansions but yes I enjoy the clear-cut aspect in games and movies.
I see some great adventure expansions for this. Looks really fun.
Thanks my friend, hope you’re well
This is looking great, Toby!
Thanks Daniel, that means a lot coming from you! I have been working very hard make this work. Decades of dungeon delving myself have lead to this moment…and might I add watching your channel has also taught me a lot about the genre
@@TobyLancaster_DR_Games I’m looking forward to trying this out soon!
Congratulations that the kick starter is going so well. Until I watched this video I had thought the shift was a bit complicated and I was going to get ten game and switch back to a target roll with shift only needed on one die (eg level 1 manoeuvres 8+, level 1 with extra damage 8+ and a 5 or 6 on at least one die after shift).
Now I see it’s not actually that complicated in practise and the game looks great.
Thanks David, I hope you enjoy!
Backed the KS! Looks great Toby!
Thanks Jason! That means a lot coming from an awesome designer like yourself.
I’m looking forward to seeing how this works. I’m working on a 2D6 system myself.
Loving the mention of NetHack
Thanks Clive, it won’t be long now.
Thanks for the video. It took me a few sessions to watch it all, but it was a good introduction to how the game plays. I realize you were doing this as a live stream and things are clearer in hindsight when you can review, but... a few things I noticed, FWIW. I don't think I would have considered bone fragments as something that could be hung up mainly because I expect fragments to be too small for that, but I guess this comes down to personal opinion. I see someone else commented about bone not being preferred by the relevant god, so there's that. Near the end with the snake combat: there's a chat comment at 2:26:36 about shifting for the Hack that I believe was correct. The roll made at 2:26:08 was 5-2, Hack needs 3-2, and you have shift 2, so on the third round, you could have done a Hack attack. At about 2:32:36, the snake rolled 1-3 that with its shift 1 +3 from the adjustment for fatigue, you brought to 2-3 for a Horned Jab attack. That works, but with a total shift of 4, that could have gone to 5-3 for a Smother which seems like the better one for the snake (miss next round). I was going to ask if you should have gone for that instead, but seeing in the PDF (it's not always easy to read everything on screen here), that the special attack is once per combat, I guess there's no need to go for that attack again since it happened earlier and the main damage is the same for both maneuvers (d6 - 2). --- EDIT: I was looking at rules v0.92; I believe you were using an earlier version here and your card doesn't say once per combat., so maybe these earlier 1-3 rolls should have gone to the 5-3 Smother with the adjusted shift 4. --- Also, with how much can potentially go on here, I can see how it would be easy to forget things like using armor's benefit until you really get used to the rules. Definitely looks like a good game, but a lot to learn.
Thanks James! Looking forward to seeing some of your play throughs and great feedback. One of the things to remember is that the occasional rule will slip through but it's no big deal. As long as you're enjoying yourself that's all that counts! Enjoy. Toby
Yeah, was surprised when he hung the bone fragment
@@Soloscussion Thanks!
Congratulations on a great game. Combat and room generation/content is impressively complex for 2d6. I particularly like the Shift and Fatigue systems - they add depth and tension.
Being a Romanian from Bucharest, I could not help but notice the Gods' names - Intuneric (Darkness), Maduva (Marrow), Nevazator (Blind) and Radacina (Root) - excellent choices you made there. I hope to see more references in future expansions, as they fit the overall theme quite well (and probably sound quite exotic to most).
Similarly to most nations in Europe, we have very dark concepts in Romanian folklore and tales (forget Dracula, who is not even Romanian - simply a figment of Bram Stoker's imagination).
The actual undead according to Romanian lore are the Strigoi. You should also look into Greuceanu (hero) and Zmei (grotesque, intelligent monsters), Gheonoaia (evil woodpecker woman), Statu-Palma-Barba-Cot (satanic dwarf), Baba Cloanta (immortal witch), Moroi (revenant, sometimes a baby who was buried alive) etc. The Witcher could learn a thing or two from us. :)
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All in all, 2D6 Dungeon looks like a wonderful experience for solo adventuring and delving. I also hope to see your vision for the 2D6 overworld some day.
Ah Mike! You are the first one to spot that! Yes, I use quite a lot of Romanian words as I like their sounds and have been meaning to probe the history a bit. It is a technique i use to find new words that as you say to us seem exotic. I love some of these suggestions as well. Thank you for the kind words! Toby
@@TobyLancaster_DR_Games I am very glad to have spotted them. Should you ever need any support for specific Romanian references and meaning of any fantastic or even mundane names and concepts, please let me know (twenty years ago, I used to study Romanian folklore and literature at the Transilvania University in Brasov, in central Romania). You can imagine I would love to lend a helping hand now. :)
@@mikestegaru Thanks for letting me know Mike and for your support, its much appreciated my friend!
Nice play through. It looks like it’d be easier just to number the tables. roll on table 5 vs. …roll on table RTPTML, etc..… 😂…but otherwise this looks fun!! Love the combat!!
Yes, thanks! we're working on the tables...
Here after watching the Dungeon Dive vid! First watch, but one thought about hitting powerfully - what if causing half or more remaining damage to a monster (or adventurer!) had some critical effect? Reducing or temporarily disabling Shift maybe? Stops interrupts? Some other interesting effect?
May be something you have already considered
Thanks for the suggestion. I am looking at some effects like that and I feel like that will come as you go deeper.
loved , im trying this beauty for shure !!!
Thanks Shazam
@@TobyLancaster_DR_Gameswhat are the plastic sleeves you have for the cards
They're just standard card sleeves. If you type them inot ebay or amazon loads appear. You can type magic the gathering sleeves. :-) @@Vinyl-Sloth
Nevazator looks very much like you Toby 😁
lol
Looks great - congratulations on the Kickstarter (I'm not on board yet - gonna back next month if I have managed to buy no games between now and then - been a bit too much game-related spending so far this year 😂).
Really like the look of this and it's great to see a pencil and paper fantasy game at this level of complexity coming from a UK designer. I like that you didn't cite the obvious parallels (Four Against Darkness, D100 Dungeon) as influences - makes me think you're going your own way. The combat system makes that pretty clear - very different and interesting.
Nice to see you tweaking and making notes as you go - it's clear that you're determined to release the best possible game that you can.
One small thing - will you be differentiating items in the text that can be picked up (like the bone fragment you found)? Like making them bold / italics. Might add some clarity and prevent situations where the player hesitates and loses the flow a bit as a result (found this to be the case in a game I played recently).
Thanks lone_adventurer (love the name by the way), yes I am determined to make this as good as I can. I have to be honest I have never played either FAD or D100, they didn't appeal to me. I have seen them played and thought I could offer another option, something that was more random, with more options. But I have played many dungeon based games and know what a good delve is!
I’m trying to embrace the roleplay aspect of the game and feel by highlighting the text it might break this immersion. Also, there are no strict rules for the main roleplay mechanism I call Inventive Usage, clear guidelines that revolve around common sense yes, but if you can think of a way to use something you encounter and it makes sense then I'm not going to say no. I may not have thought of it myself and so would not think to highlight it if I was highlighting text. I think there is a satisfying roleplaying reward if you can come up with a solution when presented with the ingredients and as we are seeing you can come up with some unexpected combinations when playing 2D6 Dungeon.
Thanks again for the comment! Don’t forget if you do Facebook we have an active group when you can find out more about the game and see peoples’ playthroughs.
Cheers
Toby
@@TobyLancaster_DR_GamesI wrote that comment just before you explained inventive usage! Sounds awesome 👍👍
@@lone_adventurer Thanks my friend! Look foward to hearing about your adventures!
1:21:00 Should the bone fragments give FP? Bone is not a favoured item for Murataynie.
Oh your right Scott! My mistake...got a bit carried away!
@@TobyLancaster_DR_Games Also, do current FP (non-permanent) get removed when you Call for Favour of the Gods? Do you keep the FP if the Call fails?
@@IthaquasBane Excellent question. I need to clarify this in the rules but it will be that if you successfully call for a favour you remove them. If you fail you lose one FP from that god. You can naturally keep trying until you have no points.
Def a great looking game so far. Hopefully all the typos and artwork gets more polished on the final product release. Also hoping for more stretch goals and cool expansions for this would be nice to see
Thanks! Yep all that is going to be ironed out and I’m putting more stretch goals in today. It’s been a fun journey so far
@@TobyLancaster_DR_Games thanks it’s been awesome watching the play through a def have it saved on Kickstarter and will def back this project. Do the cards come with a certain tier or is it because it’s already in the codex?
The cards are included in the Codex. There is also an option of selecting them as an add-on as the actual printed cards. I hope this helps, and thank you for your nice comments
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I just missed the Kickstart and am disappointed at that because just finished level 1 and want to so badly dive into the next levels. Hope to see it on drive thru rpg or somewhere else easily accessible upon launch. I've actually decided to for now incorporate this in a d100 Dungeon to give more filling to d100. Trying to use your combat system in other solo rpgs as well. Awesome awesome Dungeon creation ideas too. 2d6 scratches alot of the itches.
Jake there is the late pledges button on the Kickstarter page that if you fill out means you are in. Let me know you find it and thanks for the kind words!
I need this.
I understand that negotiating is a tricky thing to add, but you could have a simple sneak mechanism
Roll 2D6. If the result times together is smaller than the room size in squares, you can avoid a fight, but if you fail, you lose shift for the first round? Different room types could have modifiers for hiding - that store room for example could be treated as double the room size due to its many hiding possiblities. Then you just have to wait... Seems there is a mechanism for that with regards to locked doors?
Thanks for the suggestion! I'm going to work on something but I feel it's going to be complex so it will come later on once the base game is completed.
For stretch goals also maybe throw in the cards and not just add on options would be nice depending on the tier of course
Or more fun stretch goal rewards like more expansions, maybe co-op option for up to 4 players , more accessories etc
Just some ideas
Some good ideas. Cards are available as an addon as they are expensive to print at the moment...Thanks for the comment
I'm wondering if the Inventive Usage mechanic is explained in the rulebook? It is a very neat but somewhat purposefully loose in terms of rules and I feel like with everything going on it can be easily overlooked. I'm pretty excited for this game. Great job on the design.
Yep the Inventive Usage rule is explained in teh rule book. It has its own section. Cheers!
Interesting video, it occurred to me that higher level characters will auto hit after round 4 because there is such a high shift value . Im no maths genius though..
I guess I'll see with testing. I am full expecting to adjust things for higher levels. We'll see. I know combat at higher levels will be quite different. Thanks
At some point, might I have a random encounter with a white and ginger cat who sleeps in a treasure chest?
Yes! I think that is a great idea
@@TobyLancaster_DR_Games 🙂
Great vid and really informative but what if you don’t have access to a printer. Can you buy an all-in-one kit where everything is included?
Thanks and that's a great question. Hmmm it is a difficult one but if you look at www.youtube.com/@SolePatrol404 Solo Patrol's channel here you can see a way of doing it. He draws the sheets out and it works very nicely. Either that or phone a friend ;-) Hope that helps!
Not sure where to ask this, but am I correct that as of right now the "orbit" in terms of scrolls doesn't have any functionality at the moment? I've searched through the rulebook and tables and I see each scroll has an orbit but I don't see anywhwere where it comes into gameplay. Just curious if I missed something. Can't wait to play this! I purchased physical copies a week or two ago so hopefully soon!
There are references in the text when exploring and they help to identify what sort of spell they are. Also with 2D6 Realm they come into play some more. :-)
@@TobyLancaster_DR_Games can’t wait for that to come out! I have been following the videos.
The snake's Smother ability seems too punishing with missing your next round altogether. Since smother would impede your ability to move freely maybe losing your shift bonus (from all sources) in the next attack would be harsh enough while still allowing you a chance to attack. I hate missing turns so this would at least give you a slim chance to hit back.
Yeah I nerfed that ability. NOw they can only do it once per combat so hopefully that helps!
What kind of mechanical pencil are you uaing? It looks like it writes really well. Cool game too 😊
Thanks. It's just a basic one I picke dup off amazon. Doesn't have a make on it....sorry. Glad you like the game!
At 1:44:00 You only use 1 of your shift point, could you have used the remaining shift point to add to damage (even though it wouldn't have changed the outcome) or do you add your shift points to the damage only when you roll an exact strike?
Goood question. Only in an exact strike.
Looks like lots of fun. Is it possible to get fully digital version including character sheet?
Thanks Wayne, the game can be picked up at our website www.drgames.co.uk Cheers!
In the instructions for the entrance room. You have a 5 and 3 rolled, and you say to reduce it to 3x2. Is this because its above 12? So anything above 12 becomes a room size of 3x2?
Yes :-)
@TobyLancaster_DR_Games what if you roll and 1 and 4 for the entrance?
1:37:15 so I assumed the XP 35 on the apothecary is how many xp I gained defeating him?
edit: ah.. nvm
edit 2 1:53:53, 3-6 .. you cant get 3 with 2D6 unless 1die is 1, which is a corridor :D .. neither is 5, or 4 .. so your small room is stuck on only roll 3x2
edit 3 1:57:55 .. shouldn't you roll again to increase the room size since its a double 4 ;D
this is from your beta 0.92
Large rooms. If you roll a room that is 32
squares or larger (6x6 plus rolls that have
doubled up) then the space is considered
to be a large room
6x6 is 36 :D not 32
Hi KiNA, Thanks! Yeah, sometimes I miss a few things as I get a bit caught up in the action but I don't think it matters too much. Thanks for the comments
Have you given any thoughts about putting 2d6 on the VTT like Roll20
It's an interesting idea. Not sure how it would be done, but I guess these things for the future.
I really like some of these mechanics (even though the name and some terminology of the terminology feels anti-thematic for fantasy). But am I understanding right that the Fatigue mechanic starts making both parties better in combat as it builds, making maneuvers easier to do?
Thanks Seth, it makes them tired and easier to hit.
@@TobyLancaster_DR_Games that's the only way thematically I could see it make sense. Is that specifically pointed out in the rules to explain it?
@@TobyLancaster_DR_Games also, will the name be changing to something more thematic, more in line with those flavorful game titles you took inspiration from?
@@sethpeterson8261 nope it is 2D6 Dungeon from here on in my friend. Happy delving!
1:15:39 Rolls a 4 and 2 on two white dice. Oops! Need a primary. Proceeds to roll a 4 and 2.
Yep! Ironic, lol
Could have uses the whip scroll at the end :p
So true!
It's not clear went to roll in the dungeon ancestry, as I play I've been only rolling on small rooms and large rooms, but I see that in the ancestral table there's a lot of rooms as well, when do I roll on the ancestry?
Maybe I'm not seeing well in the text when I'm reading it
No problem. If the area of the room is 6 or smaller roll on the small rooms table. If the room has an area of 32 or more then roll on the Large rooms table. Everything in the middle roll on the normal rooms table for the level. Good luck!
~@1:18:00: How did you gain a favor for Murataynie when he doesn't accept bone (according to the god's card)? I would imagined that someone scarified a Large Rat, hung the meat and skin (leather) to the god, let the blood spill (since there is no way to hang it) and left the rest of the rat on the floor. By the time you got there, all that was left where the bones that were step on and broken. (Bone Fragments) There may be rotten meat and shrivel up skin on the hooks, but both are now useless.
If there are some bones left in there Murataynie doesn't mind as long as there is something there that he requires for favour. There is some flexibilty here...
As of this date are there any KS planned for the near furure
Good question! Yes, we have 2 more Kickstarters this year. The next one is a side step from 2D6 and is our new miniature skirmish game...and then at the end of the year probably November I'll be launching 2D6 Legendary Dungeon. Next year we have 2D6 Void coming...the sci-fi version of 2D6 Dungeon.
I’m just getting into the game. Ism legally blind is there a large print version?
I ould change from Exact Strike to Precise Strike
But Exact is so much more Precise? ;-)
Gordain, we hardly knew ye.
It was epic though!
@@TobyLancaster_DR_Games it was indeed!
There are no classes and only 3 weapons. No magic besides the 3 scrolls you can carry...
Game seems unfinished or cut on purpose to sell expansion sets.
There are really neat mechanics in this game tho.
Well :-) I can answer a few of those statements if you like. You can be what class you like, the game just isn't bogged down with class rules. You just have to imagine. When you look at a party how many weapons do you see them using...usually about three types. There are potions, magic items and magic rooms, blessings and god interaction as well as the scrolls. There are more tables in this game than any other game I have seen. So we haven't cut content there. We have actually packed in much more content than the campaign had original been designed for including a range of stretch goal tables, adding even more options. You can actually play the game for free if you like. Yes, the rules are free, for level 1. Cheers :-)
@@TobyLancaster_DR_Games ok but when i imagine a dungeon party there could be more posible variaty than: longsword, greataxe and heavy mace. I know i can imagine everything but its still a strange design choice as the weapons stats boil down to the same values no? So why not calling them: close combat weapon, ranged weapon and magic attack or something and make the manouvers a bit more swingy?
And more tables dont make a better game. 140 pages of tables. Pages of d6 tables that could have easily been summed up for convinience. Its too much imo.
Still generally nice to have.
Good game overall totally worth it if one likes that amount of tables and the lack of quests or stats or charakter.
Game is cool but incredibly slow
When you play it on your own and you're not explaining the rules it goes more quickly ;-)
Hello Toby, how are you? I'm a player and content creator of offline games from Brazil and I would like to play a game on my 2D6 Dungeon channel. Could you please provide me with a copy to create the gameplay content and thus promote the game in my country? I greatly appreciate your attention and wish you all the success in the world.
Hi SuperGeekTV - email me with the details to toby@drgames.co.uk and we'll sort you out my friend.Cheers! Toby
Never use a Pencil... It's 2023, use a Pilot Frixion pen
Mechanical pencils all day my friend!
@@TobyLancaster_DR_Games do you know the product tho? After I bring them to my RPG tables, people start to buy them... I should get kick backs :D
That looks like a Pentel P205. I’ve been doing adventure and game design with that pencil for 40 years.
I’m curious about this Frixion thing, though.
@@steelmongoose4956 I call them character sheet pens... red, black, blue, green purple... writes and looks like a ball pen. Erases easier than a pencil. Max readability, max erasability
And now there is a frixion felt pen. Imagine drawing dungeons with the quality of felt pen, but the luxury if rubbing out!!!
2d6 dungeon is too woke :(