PO-33 KO! Hidden Copy & Paste Secrets.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ธ.ค. 2024
- In this episode, we explore some of the undocumented features of the Teenage Engineering PO-33 KO! Specifically, we look at how to copy and paste samples without engaging the auto-slice. This allows you to make custom drum kits your PO-33 KO! We hope that you enjoy!
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For clarity, here are the steps for the copy and paste trick discussed in the video:
1. Copy a sound by pressing Write and Sound, then select a drum sound slot.
2. Without letting go of Write and Sound, select a step from 1-16 where you want to paste your sample.
3. If you keep holding down write and sound, and keep selecting steps, it will paste the sample into each one.
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The KO will be my first pocket operator. I am confident I got the right PO for me. So fucking excited!
I got 1 last week, gotta say it's an absolute beast and it honestly sounds nicer than my 2000xl, for boom bap it's an absolute gem, a tip for you is hold the bpm button and any pad from 1-16 will increase the volume output, out the box you can fart louder.
did you already got one? as a matter of fact are u still alive?
Very useful! You went kinda fast for a moment but rewatching it a few times now I know what you mean!
Awesome function
Awesome! Glad you liked it! Thanks for your comment!
Good info and tutorials but just some constructive criticism-narration is way too fast for most folks learning the PO
thanks for hearing me out man!
No Problem. Thanks for your support.
Awesome tips, my KO is coming in a few days I can't wait.
this video has given me so much clarity. thank you so much! My biggest gripe with the po was that I thought I could organize my samples and now I can. THANK YOU
Thanks! Glad it helped.
Damn i never waited that 5 secs which sometimes makes me wonder why im not getting my samples perfect thx .. i subscribed when i saw a few of your vids but when i saw u are a animal lover and carer i was so happy i did.
Matthew Cody hey, thanks so much!! You’re awesome!
Keep up these videos man! Such great content and I know a lot of people just picking up these devices second hand who are learning the ropes from these videos! Thanks 😊
Thanks! Great point.
Thought I knew all the KO tricks but that last one was new to me! Very cool
Glad you learned something new! Enjoy.
Awesome Ollie, thanks. My wife and I volunteer at an animal rescue centre in the UK and donate to many animal charities here and abroad. I'll check the details for your channel,. Cheers. Lee
Hi Lee, that’s wonderful that you and your wife are devoted animal lovers. What a great passion to have. Keep up the good work.
@@OllieLoops we sure will. Thanks so much for you fabulous channel. Cheers. Lee
Just got a PO-33 last night and havent been able to put it down :) Great video! Subbing for sure!
Awesome! Enjoy.
finally some ads i can enjoy :)!
Haha! If only they were all this awesome!
There's a similar thing that happens when copying a drum bank to a melodic bank. The last drum sound you hit gets copied, then you can pitch it around like a melodic sample. Idk if you can re pitch and copy back down, but the FXs do that already, so whatever. There might be a benefit on pitch vs speed tho, if they retune things differently
i've never been able to copy other pitches... only the default (number 5) am I doing something wrong?
Very Cool, another fantastic tutorial. Thanks Ollie Loops!
Thanks!
Thank you...
Ah yes. Thanks I needed to remind myself of how these feature hacks work lol. 👍🏻👍🏻🔥
Ahhh yes!
Great video! Thanks for the tip! This is a huge game changer for me.
Fantastic vid! Nice feature....
Thanks for your support! I appreciate your comment.
This is really a Game changer💪
Thanks!
Hahaha awesome!! Love the aesthetic and the tone of the video. Thanks for sharing! ^_^
Thanks! I appreciate it.
Nice trick I haven't seen this one before. Gonna try it soon
mi777ke777 hey, thanks for your comment. Glad you enjoyed it.
THANKYOU!!
Thanks!
Thank you very much, it has helped me a lot. regards
Thanks! Glad it helped!
Love this! Thank you for being cool to animals. Oh and for making sick beat videos! 😊
Thanks!
Just wanted to let you know, i liked the Video and Wang to know More tricks, Peace
Thanks!
great video
Thanks!
Is this trick different from the operation “copy slice” in the PO-33 manual? Version 1.0 of the manual on the TE website reads, “to copy the last triggered slice from one drum sound to another; hold write + sound and press any drum key 9-16 and then any key 1-16.”
At the time of making this, this trick was not in the manual.
@1:55 shouting out Matty A, is it cpoying a sample over an existing sample in a pattern so it's not cut off? just to make sure I'm following. I tried it and still get some sounds cut off by other sounds. I'm probably missing something
thanks!
So, it’s a bit complicated to explain, but I’ll try. There’s limited polyphony on the device. If you have several sounds at once, eventually you will run out of voices and they start getting cut off. Also, each sound slot can play one sound per step. But multiple sound slots can play at once until you run out of voices. Lastly, only one sample can be loaded into each sound slot ( though drum samples are divided into multiple sounds). I hope that makes sense. Good luck.
Need to re listen to fully understand but thanks. Yes drum sequence into drum sampler is awkwardly sliced at transient. Manual is useless and hard to read. Video much Appreciated.
Hey, Thanks for your comment. I'm glad you liked the video. Have fun with your KO!
Can someone explain the GAME CHANGER tip at 1:58? I don't fully understand what it means.
1. I get he recorded a drum loop as a melodic sample, and then copied it to a drum slot.
2. But then he keeps holding WRITE and SOUND and now presses additional numbers. Is that right?
3. So not only does the melodic drum sample get copied to the drum slot and divided into 16 equal pieces (spread across the 16 number keys) but the entire drum sample also gets copied to the additional numbers he presses after?
Is that right?
I think I understand. So doing my steps 1 and 2, you can keep repeating that process to build your own custom drum kit with instruments assigned to any number you want.
1. Load the sound you want to use (hold SOUND + 1-8) to select a sound. Could be anything: a vocal, a piano key, anything
2. Now hold WRITE + SOUND and then select your drum lot number (let's say 9) and then press the number (1-16) where you want to assign your new instrument sample (let's say 7)
3. If you now load that drum slot (9), you only overwrote the number you chose (7). The rest of your drum kit is preserved.
I think that's right. Maybe?
Yes, I believe you got it. Have fun!
Brilliant
Thanks!
Thanks for the video man!!!!
Just when i thought i figured this thing out... lol
I dont understand the "gamechanger". I just dont get it. I watched it like 40 Times but i dont get it. I am trying to just simple copying your movements on the Device but still dont get it.
:/
Hey, thanks for your comment. And sorry that its a bit confusing. I'll do my best to explain it a little more. So the KO's drum section essentially has two layers, one layer is the kit which holds 16 steps, and the other layer is the steps themselves. A typical workflow on the KO would be to record or paste your sample directly into the kit layer, and this automatically slices your sample into the 16 steps. But the "game changer" feature is the ability to paste a sample directly to one of the 16 steps within the kit. This bypasses the slicing feature, and allows you to load any samples to each of the 16 steps within the drum kit. The drum sample section of the KO has 8 kits located on sound slots 9-16. So this copy and paste trick opens up a lot of potential to create 8 custom drum kits. To do the copy and paste method correctly, it requires you to get the button press sequence in the right order and remember to hold WRITE & SOUND throughout the entire button sequence. The order of operations is important. But the trick is not hard once you get the sequence correct. I hope that helps!
@@OllieLoops I was a bit confused too, but this clears it up thank you!
Ollie Loops so THIS is what algebra was trying to prepare me for! Okay, they don’t call me PEMDAS for nothing!
@@Terrible_Peril shit. I failed algebra. Is that why i still don't get it?
@@anthonybernero9720 if you’re holding the device in your hands, watch the video slowly and just do what he does.
hey dude awesome tips cute dog, i love you. How do you copy the pitch and the volume + filter parameters from a specific step into another step? does that make sense? i keep messing up everything accidentally deleting steps lol
Thanks! The method shown here is for copying and pasting individual sounds, not necessarily steps. You can copy and paste whole patterns which would also copy the parameters of that pattern. You can then manipulate the copied pattern, but I know that’s not exactly what you’re looking for. And you can copy and paste individual steps by pressing and holding the step to copy and pressing a step to paste it. As far as I can tell, only the sound slot and note length can be edited on an individual step. Filter, resonance and other parameters are set to the sound slot/kit not the steps of a pattern. If anyone in the community knows something more about this, please comment below. Thanks!
Master🙏🏻
Select the sound of the step you wish to copy, enter write mode, press and hold the step a second until the screen says cpy, then press the target step(s) you wish to copy to, (includes settings and automations).
Gr8 vid. Much appreciated. Bro, would you happen to know if there is the ability or any available "Firmware Upgrades" to the KO from TE? Seems to me POs 32 thru 35 should be able to upgrade their firmware via the kit restore / load methinks... Any info greatly appreciated...
Thanks! Currently there are no firmware updates for the KO. Although it may be possible, I think they develop it once and move onto other devices. At most they have come out with other editions of the KO, like the street fighter edition, etc. but they still have the same functions, just new sounds.
I know the trim transfers when you copy a sound, but is there a way to transfer the pitch as well? I want to lower one sound by two octaves but it copies the original sample pitch every time.
It doesn’t sound like it. I’m not aware of how to do that.
Awesome video, I am just learning my po-33,and will def come back to this in the future. But in the meantime I i have. Question for you, so today I sampled a loop (meant to loop, not be chopped) but when i play it, and the sequencer starts counting from 1 to 16, the loop starts again before it is finished becuase it's too long. Now in the MPC, I could set the bpm, then remedy this by making the bars longer.. is there a way to make the bars longe on the po-33? Or are we just stuck with the 16 beat pattern? The only way Ive found is to link 2 patterns, but I don't see this working if a single sample is still playing out before the second pattern would start. Have you guys ever ran into this?
Hey, I think I understand what you want to do which is to extend the sample past 16 steps. Unlike the MPC, you can't change the pattern length on the KO. It's 16 steps and only 16 steps. However, you can change step lengths, but you are still limited to stay within 16 steps. You could try halving the BPM and writing the beat twice as fast, but you would loose the resolution of the step sequencer. You could also chain patterns, as you pointed out. The trick there would be to break your sample into two parts. Use half on the first pattern and half on the second pattern. But thats about it, its the limit of a 16 step sequencer. I hope that helps.
@@OllieLoops that's exactly what I was wondering, thanks! I suppose I can still use it with shorter samples but maybe it will be a more in conjunction with my MPC instead of standalone device. Appreciate the reply!
@@damiendroid8447 Yeah, exactly. The KO is like a mini MPC, but its also a limited feature set by comparison. It can do a lot for it's size. But sometimes you'll be better off using a fully featured device like the MPC. Have fun.
On PO-35 speak, you can set sound bpm while staying in tune.
this is so great. now i have a perfect hi-hat bank that conveniently choke each other
Nice!
I wonder what you can do with it if you connect the output cable of that thing to the input...
Hey, thanks for your comment. I would guess that you would get feedback.
Man I saw a vid of someone do mute groups but cant find it again and i’d love to know how to mute/solo.... would really help for tracking stems for starters
I would be interested t to know that as well. The only trick I know is to hold down the track’s button during playback to temporarily mute the track until you release it. Or you can adjust the volume of each sound.
Haven't seen this before I did my video tutorials
Looks like to avoid auto slice you need to copy the sample from melodic section (the drum sound that you copied from drum section and saved in melodic section (the one that you like)) and when pasting to the drum section you need to choose the bank 9-16 and while still pressing "paste" buttons select the exact slot 1-16. Can we call that "another Melody section with 16 slots X 8 banks" taking into consideration that the amount of memory is still total 40 seconds for anything sampled into the machine?
I have a question: Can you copy and paste sounds within drum section to overwrite those that you don't like with those you like to kinda organize the space within the drum kit? My KO is still on it's way to me so I can't try all this now ... :)
Hi, just tried it out, if you copy a sound back into the same drum kit it overwrites the old one. So, yeah, could be used to move samples around. I imagine though the best would be to make a copy of the whole drum kit and rearrange in a new kit so you don't accidentally loose a sample by overwriting it.
Edit: Maybe the drums would have to be all be pulled or went through melodic first in that drum kit so the sample copies over into the single "sample bank" inside the drumkit.
Edit2: Tested it out some more, seems it transfers the single drumcuts into the same or other drum kits fine.
I've been subbed for a long time, really enjoy your channel and have used this little hack a lot. My question, does this still work on the PO133? I was wanting to get another PO33 but they now have the PO133 and I'm thinking of getting that one... Ollie, anyone, know? Thanks!
I believe the 133 is the same as the 33 except for the stock sounds and graphics. The trick should work the same.
@@OllieLoops Thanks! I think I'll order one this week. Can't get enough of the jamzzz :)
Sweet. Enjoy!
Nice video!
👽👍🏽
BTW
Changing the pitch of the drum slots after you paste it from the melodic to the drum can give you some pretty adjustable sample lentghs. It's almost like a time-stretch feature
Thanks for your comment. That’s a great tip. Much appreciated.
Genuine
Thanks.
Ollie, think this works for the Speak?
Hey, Thanks for your comment. I'm not sure, to be honest. If some kind user wants to try and comment here, that would be awesome!
Different feature sets. The Speak has 15 vocoder destinations plus one channel of drums. It doesn't have the split melodic/drums layout of the KO! (nor does it auto-trim).
Jon Kelly thanks Jon. To confirm, the Speak has no copy and paste function, correct?
@@OllieLoops Write + rec + sound + 1-15 copy current sample to another slot. Write + pattern and press 1-16 to paste the active pattern to the corresponding new slot. See: soniccharge.com/forum/topic/1060-po-35-secret-powers See: teenage.engineering/guides/po-35/en
How do you record and slot a drum sample to a button
Hey, thanks for your comment and question. If I understand your question correctly, this video explains how to record and assign a drum sample into a an individual sound slot/button. If I didn't understand your question correctly, let me know and I'll try to help. Thanks.
Oh i meant how to (for example) put all your claps in slot 1 snares in 2
@@xcompilations616 ok. check out our Sampling Setup video. th-cam.com/video/DnhJrfV5vfs/w-d-xo.html
That has some tricks about keeping similar samples together in your drum kits. If you combine the copy and paste trick from this video with the setup in that video, you should get to where you want to go. Let me know if that helps or if you still need help.
Maybe I just don’t understand, the Po’s introduced odd variations on percussion sort of like like the Annie song turning ordinary cleaning tools into percussive instruments, I don’t see hardly anyone using the KO for coming up with their own ideas of fax machines, MRI machines? Why not?
Not sure I follow. Which odd variations are you referring to? With the KO PO33, you can sample the sounds of other devices and make interesting compositions. But I think that’s not common.
prefer breaks to oneshots for drum because it's a limited 4 voices sampler..
Thanks for sharing!
I would like to put some samples to my k.o. from my guitar/bass guitar. However my guitars are passive. So, should I put the samples using the d.i. box or my amplifier's line out?
Hey, thanks for your comment. I think both options would work. If your amp’s effects are pre line out, then you could add some character to your samples before they get into the ko. If you want a clean signal, then the DI box is a good way to go. Hope that helps!
@@OllieLoops thank you it was very helpful.
If you hold a set drum sound you copy the pitch and the volume + filter
Good tip. thanks!
"Select the the sound slot from 9-16 just passed 2 bars" ??? What does this mean?
Brandon Walowitz hey, Brandon. The instruction is to record 2 bars (or measures) from the drum break by holding record and 9-16. Hope that helps!
i was about to buy that... but im more confused now then before
What are you confused about?
@@OllieLoops idk man. litterly everything. from getting sounds on that thing to saving stuff so you dont loose your presets are my biggest worries. And what you have shown looks like you kinda overwrite a lot of other stuff. which brings me to the first point. IDK i guess i have to pick it up to know what i can do. Got the Arcade but thats litterly the easyest one i guess. Like it tho
Thanks for elaborating. One thing to know about the KO is that everything is saved in real-time. If you record into a sound slot it is instantly saved to memory and whatever was there gets overwritten. Same with patterns, if you alter a pattern it is instantly saved. This can take some getting use to to, but it’s one less thing to worry about. It’s best to think about the KO as being one song at a time type of device. Make a song, record it to an external recorder and then make another song. Jumping between songs is not what this device was designed for. I hope that helps!
@@OllieLoops but what if you screw up and end up with no usable stuff on it cause you overwritten everything. how you get workable stuff back on it. dont tell me this 99$ Software or the Microphone ... Thats what im allways wondering. Thanks for awnsering btw
Mistakes, experimentation and practice are all part of making music. That’s not device specific and you will need to deal with that with this device and any other. If you approach the device as if you’re making something that’s precious, then that can impede your ability to get anything made. Instead, use it to learn, grow, practice and have fun with. If something doesn’t work out, just do it over or try something new. And nothing is permanent, you can always do a factory reset if you want to get back to how the device was out of the box. I hope that helps.
If i had one of these everyone thing would hear if it
Looks like a good trick but you went too fast so I don’t understand. Could you write down the steps in the description of the video? Thanks
@pappa_fattig Hey, thanks for your comment. Step by Step instructions have been added to the description of the video. Please let us know if you have any further questions. Thanks!
Thanks a lot for the step by step description and thanks for great tutorials.
@@fattigmanskultur no problem. glad I could help.
Wish the LCD screen had a grid or something on it instead of that childish animation apart from that it's a great lil machine
Agreed. It would be awesome to see some useful info on the screen.
1:13 don’t mind me
I hear u & understand nothing
Thanks for sharing.