I love that you put it under cover. People could build an 8x8 roof structure to cover one after the big expense of buying one would seem trivial for a roof.
That’s my thought as well. Spend good money to heat your home. An enclosed or roof to me is like an insurance policy for your family. Trying to keep or heat supply like new for as long as you can.
@@Treestofirewood same here I don't understand Y all of these people leave these things out in the element its like putting your furnace outside in the weather lol I must be missing something lol
It’s because people are so used to seeing these stoves out in the elements for forever and think that’s just the norm. But you spend a lot of money on something so why not keep it nice along with your wood supply nice and dry. Plus I stay dry as well. And if anything needs to be worked on. Your out of the elements.
tell you truth i don't think you need a shed building around it but it does look cool. it not like you spend a lot of time outside putting wood in boiler.
I never knew how much I would love this machine. It’s so nice and having it under cover is the best thing ever. Check out my other videos on how I heat everything. I’m always making improvements.
When the smoke bypass is engaged it does a great job to get most of the smoke up and out of the exhaust pipe. I usually get inpatient and open it to soon. But the smoke usually decimated pretty quickly. If I took the time and cracked the door for 15-20seconds the smoke then wouldn’t be a problem. Another reason it is rated for indoor use.
I was wondering if someone was goin to beat me to posting a video about this. Just bought a new house and our stove is going under a inclosed area like this. Nice job 👍🏻
At first I thought you were going through a lot of wood for heating a house but to also heat your shop and the concrete slab that seem not so bad. Nice setup!
Yeah doesn’t go threw to much wood. Only time we burn a lot is when we are melting snow. If the house is just running it’s a joke how much we burn. Practically nothing.
That’s a beautiful set up everything out of the weather wood right next to the boiler easy peasy. But let me understand. Is the smoke only an issue when you open the door to refill ? If that’s the case couldn’t you mount one of those high powered fans ( like a cheap harbor freight one ) from the ceiling to blow smoke out the small door. I love how you have it all set up for snowmelt. Like I say awesome set up. 👍👍
Yes only smoke you get is when you open the door to fill the stove. If I waited a little more when I have the door cracked it wouldn’t smoke at all. I’m just impatient. And thank you. Lots of thought went into the build.
I commend you for purchasing an gasification unit. Much healthier for everyone, vapor verses smoke. I like your set up and thorough explanation of same. Yours & youtube channel Lumnah Acres, are the only 2 gas boilers i am aware of. There are many outside wood furnaces in my rural area over the past 30+ years. All are open air design, necessitating replacement every 10 years, then at $10 Grand each. Yours more feasible, efficient with longevity. As an old sheet metal man, give consideration to fabricating an 24 gauge galvanized hood (shaped like an welding hood) secured a few inches above the feed/cleanout doors. Vent with an 6/8 " galv., flue thru roof with open cap to alleviate smoke when opening door. Six feet should draft well, no need for damper or motor.. This should make it 100 % perfect. btw. Have been using basement wood stove most of my life. With gas model & few years younger, i would follow in your path.
Thank you. I love the stove. And I will take the exhaust vent into consideration. Lots of people recommend it. We will see what I decide. I will have to check acres out as well. Love the technology of the gasification units. Much better for the environment.
@@Treestofirewood same unit, the G10000. Installing the RhinoFlex tubing in the ground prior to pouring concrete is proving to be a major challenge. It's very difficult to work with in that it doesn't bend well.
You should throw some barn doors on those openings! Also been fighting my setup outside as well, going to be adding an enclosed cold storage over top of the stove this spring!
Yeah I may add some doors this summer. We will see. Have a ton of projects going on. But I also do like having both end open as well for good air flow. And having a cover over the stove is huge and you will say to yourself why didn’t I do this sooner.
Lol I know how that goes. When on tree jobs we fight that all winter. Either being snow on or fighting with the snow whiling taking these trees down. All part of the job. And yea shelter for the wood goes a long way.
We have an outside Portage and Main boiler burning coal, heating a 1900 sq ft house and a 2000 sq ft shop. I actually wish I'd have built it into a building. We didn't want to be burning wood because of the time involved in filling it. Our coal boiler is automatic. We have a 19 ft tall hopper bottom bin beside it and the coal is augered in as needed and the ash is augered out. Once a month or so I clean out the fly ash. We burn about 12 to 14 tonnes of coal a year. We start it in late October or early November and shut it off in April. Temperatures here in Saskatchewan Canada are averaging about 0 F in the winter. I might have missed it, but did you say how many cords of wood you burn in a winter?
Sounds like you have a nice set up. I actually burn year round. Summer just to heat our hot water. But winter season around 10 full cords. But now we are heating around 8,000sq ft.
Very nice. I wanted one of these, but went with an indoor wood stove in my basement instead for now. Still may put one in later. I'll have to look back at your videos. The wood looks like you split it down fairly small for what most people use in a boiler. I'm sure it burns better and cleaner that way.
Gasification units require smaller splits and prefer dry wood. The old traditional boilers you can throw whatever you want in them for the most part. I wanted a more efficient unit. Plus it’s epa compliant. Virtually no smoke out the stack and uses very little wood. And yes please come back as I will continue to post videos.
@@Treestofirewood Thanks for the reply. I went and watched more videos after this one. Very nice setup. I didn't realize you had a tree and wood business. Sweet! Yea, for sure, you are burning a lot more efficient than those guys who throw garbage , old or green wood in their boilers. Maybe you can post some tree work videos too. I think a lot of us would enjoy that content as well. Take care.
Having the boiler under cover is the only way to fly. This summer I want to build a woodshed/boiler cover so the firewood is right there. That way when it is blowing and snowing, I don't care.
I've thought about one of these for a couple years but they look like a part time job at best and full time job at worst depending on whether you can afford the extra building and/or the equipment to process your own wood if you go that route.
Yeah I get what your saying. But for me it’s a must since I produce on average 1,000 full cords a year and have all the equipment to do so. Owning a tree service as well does help. But gotta love what you do and I definitely do.
I have a gassifier boiler made by portage and main in the walkway to my enclosed wood shed . The shed is a 24x30 calf shelter which is made out of behlen steel pannels so you can pile wood right against the walls . The shed is a shed roof style with the high part away form the stove and is put on a 2 foot pony wall so the front is 15 ft high . It will house enough wood for the winter just loosley put in there . The one thing that i had an issue with was the insurance companies won't insure the stove or building and they wanted to have me cut down the live oak trees within 50 ft of the furnace wich isn't being done unless they die . How are you with the insurance ?? But it shure is a joy to go out to feed the furnace when it is - 35C out and the wind is blowing . With nice dry wood i find that it uses alot less and there are less ashes as well . How does your stack respond to the colder weather does the cap drip down on the roof ?? I take my cap off when it gets cold enough that it doesent rain anymore just snow . I am up in manitoba canada .
Sounds like you have a nice set up as well. Haven’t had any issues with insurance. I leave my rain cap on all the time. I haven’t really seen any dripping coming off the cap.
New Subscriber new. Thanks for the details planning on doing the same this year. Only difference is we are going to place the unit then build around. And yes open ended building. #slackoutdoors
Tomorrow morning I’m posted a video of the inside of my garage set up. But I heat both shops currently with a 200,000btu water to air heat exchanger with fan. It cranks the heat out. Winter temp I have set at 60 unless I’m working inside then I turn it up to 65/70
I have an old style n it’s outside for 14 years. The only things I deal with r proper wood amount /type to keep it from overheating when temperatures are above zero. Also challenging to start a fire if it’s windy but t g not many. All out the best investment I ever made. About 8 k counting a semi of wood n tools needed for use. I’ve saved over 30kin propane n have all the free heat I can use.
I have a woodstove in my basement and would love a outdoor wood boiler. I would be able to heat my shop with it as well (had a woodstove as well). The mess being contained right outside near the wood pile would be a huge pile. I would make another lean too off my shop so its under cover too. I would also get a gasification unit so it will be a few years before i can justify buying one.
Once you have one you will be asking why didn’t you do it sooner. And yes being able to heat multiple areas with one heat source is awesome. One fire to maintain and one mess and it’s all outside
I also have electric baseboard so my thinking was put one heat exchanger in the basement near the woodstove to heat the house. Rather than run hydronic baseboard and lines.
@@Treestofirewood I have been tossing the idea around once again...lol. It occured to me last night i could remove the woodstove from my shop and place a Heatmaster G4000 in its place. A little modification would have to get done, maybe move the chimney...whatever. But then its out of the elements. I just built a new woodshed off my shop so it's not to far away. It's either a 12-40 foot walk to a separate area with no cover or basically the same walk but going into the shop.
What does your insurance say about it being in this location? I want to do this with mine. A lean-to, with gravel floor. But, this concrete looks like a great idea. Easy clean up for sawdust, bark, & splitter droppings.
I wonder what insurance companies think about it? Our insurance company came out and measured how far away from walls and how our stove was piped before they would cover our house. We have a wood burning stove in our living room. Your boiler is totally different concept but just curious what they might say. I really like your setup👍👍
The boiler is certified to be indoors so not sure what insurance would say. But the fact that it is certified to be indoors not sure there is much they could say and the stove has many safety features as far as shutting it self down incase of over heating and regulates the burn so well. But yes most other boilers must be so far away from homes and structures.
You say about an insurance company “there is not much they could say”. One thing they could say is that it doesn’t meet their risk requirements so they won’t insure it. Even though it is certified for indoor installation there is no way to force the insurer to underwrite the risk.
That may be true. But I think our insurance would be much happier with an outdoor boiler rather than the 3 indoor fireplaces and 1 in the garage going all winter. The size of my policies for what I all insure I’m not sure they would make a big deal. But who knows.
@@Treestofirewood Yes, they probably would because they would see a reduced risk. They have decades of experience around assessing the risk related to fireplaces causing payouts, but relatively little about your type of heating system. To the insurance company it is almost all about risk, while your local agent is more focused on their commissions from your premiums. I would certainly prefer your setup to one where the furnace is 50 feet from any shelter. More of these are being used and they seem to be effective.
As long as you have any wood furnace installed properly with correct flue parts and clearances you should be fine. I had an indoor furnace and an aquatherm 275 inside a shop. Insurance was 30$ extra per year.
Gasification units are a little different. Needs dry wood. And my processor splits the wood all the same size so it’s no big deal. You can burn a little bigger in the boiler but I’ve had really good success with what I have been burning.
Just found your channel. Why did you not turn the boiler around facing the wood and door? A few steps saved as you get older and by the door for ash removal . Put those clear plastic strip curtains on the door like at Lowes just to keep drafts down.
Lean too is open on both sides. Wanted the boiler facing the house. Plus I from time to time bring crates in there and it’s easier to come from other side and I drop the wood right by the door. I may put barn doors of some sort on the opening by the wood. Not sure yet.
Thanks for sharing! 👍 Do you need some Fire Alarms, CO2 Alarm, some Auto Fire Water Sprinklers and Security Cameras to keep it safer?? How do you deal with floodings and Thunder Storms for your Big Barn??
would a through fan on the wall next to the boiler help with the smoke? BTW how many SQ FT can that heat? and can you split the direction, that is, can it heat two separate buildings?
Yes it can and does heat two seperate buildings. On the back of the stove there are two pumps. One goes to the house and one goes to both garages. I could add another two pumps if I chose to down the road if I wanted to heat additional storage or something else. I may build a wood kiln this year. Which the boiler will provide the heat for that.
I’ve done a video on that already. When it was 20 degrees the other day I checked it again. If nothing is running in the house. The return temp is literally less than a degree coming back to the boiler. Hard to believe I know. Crazy. Maybe because I have the water flowing so fast idk.
I thought it was an insurance issue that say you can’t put it inside because ur premium will increase 40%. I certainly like it and think it’s safe, but insurance will say no, no, no, you not covered if it burns your building.
Ins. Co. must issue an wood stove exclusion endorsement to the policy, if they refuse coverage. As a former agent, good housekeeping goes along way for their compliance.
So I can valve off the driveway heat exchanger if I wanted too. But I have the snow melt system on a wifi plug so I can activate the system from anywhere and to have the water constantly flowing through that heat exchanger at all times doesn’t take any heat loss as it stays at the water temp at all times until system is activated. I will post video of snowmelt system soon
Does the unit raise the temperature inside the building any? At least from the chimney pipe? What if there were doors on the building? Would the unit heat the area via radiant heat?
Yeah there’s probably a little heat generated from the boiler. If the building was closed up it would probably be pretty warm inside. Not sure how much. But it would only be from the chimney pipe but the double walled pipe doesn’t really put off heat. You can touch it with bare hands no problem.
Yes the G series from HeatMaster are certified to either be indoor or outdoor. So having the boiler under the lean too is completely fine. Only reason I do because I want to keep it out of the elements.
@@Treestofirewoodagreed! I also have a friend that did the same, has less issues with smoke blowing back in his face. You could also add a hood over the front loading door with its own blower and switch to suck out the extra smoke. All the best!
Yeah in the future if I find time I will instal an exhaust vent just for the excess smoke that comes out. Usually it isn’t an issue. But will be a nice improvement when I do.
Yes I do believe that’s where I got it. I would have to double check. 360ft of run to house and back and in single digits I lose less than a degree. So it’s doing just fine. How are you liking yours?
Smaller splits dry better. And gasification units require dry wood. Better BTU’s. These gasification units are so efficient it’s crazy compared to the older style of boilers. You can burn bigger pieces. I just chose to split and burn what I have. Haven’t been let down yet. Get an even burn and makes for really good coals. I do what works for me. The old barrel in a barrel you could get away with whatever you throw in there. Not so much with these as the fire burns down instead of up.
I own a firewood company as well. All my wood goes through a processor so all the pieces are roughly the same size with very little effort. And the wood dries better and burns really well. Smaller splits in a gasified burns the best.
I wanted to keep the whole boiler out of the elements. Just in case something needed to be fixed. Out of the elements and all wood is covered and close by for loading.
I suppose you can if you could get it down there. Exposed basement I’m sure you could. Not sure if insurance will like that. When opening the door you will get smoke coming out at some point so there that to think about. Then it’s bringing the wood to the boiler as well.
Justin rhodes youtube channel has a different brand & has been having trouble with it. He's is under a shelter too. Moore family farms has one like yours
Hard to say really. I heat so many things now with the boiler. But if I was going to heat just my home I would probably go through 3/4 cords of wood. Maybe.
@@Treestofirewood I appreciate the support brother! Working on another boiler video now as we speak! Id love to travel one year all around to see peoples boiler set ups what a video series that would be!
Ive seen people install a vortex fan and vent suspended right above the door so when you open it it sucks all the smoke out. Super cheap fix for smoke in the shop. th-cam.com/video/DigBuIQuW9g/w-d-xo.html at 32 seconds here is an example
tell you truth i never see wood boiler inside a building like that . all wood boiler i see in my era are outside in there yard . my brother in-law have his boiler outside pass 20 years still works and still look good . i just thought all wood stove boiler are outside in your yard with no shed building around it
What do you mean 10 times the amount of wood? I’m going to burn a little more than what I burned inside the house. And I’m heating over twice the amount now.
Yeah I could do that but I like the air flow we do get. Plus we are always taking things in and out of there all the time. Maybe some barn doors. Maybe.
What do you mean I don’t have a job? Explain what a lot of wood is? To some making firewood or buying it may be a chore. Rather than paying money to heat your home you can heat it with wood. Way more satisfaction to heat with wood. Laziness is just paying money to heat rather than doing a little work to heat your family. Some models burn way more than others. My boiler barely consumes wood. Lot of variables to consider.
I can have my house temp at whatever temperature I want it at. Thermostats operates like a normal thermostat instead of the gas firing it just blows air past the water to air heat exchanger and heats the home. Super nice.
I love that you put it under cover. People could build an 8x8 roof structure to cover one after the big expense of buying one would seem trivial for a roof.
That’s my thought as well. Spend good money to heat your home. An enclosed or roof to me is like an insurance policy for your family. Trying to keep or heat supply like new for as long as you can.
@@Treestofirewood same here I don't understand Y all of these people leave these things out in the element its like putting your furnace outside in the weather lol I must be missing something lol
It’s because people are so used to seeing these stoves out in the elements for forever and think that’s just the norm. But you spend a lot of money on something so why not keep it nice along with your wood supply nice and dry. Plus I stay dry as well. And if anything needs to be worked on. Your out of the elements.
Love this video! Answered so many unanswered questions we had. Very knowledgeable
Thanks for doing that. I’ve really been wanting to do this but now I’m sold. Looks like a really nice set up.
No problem. I’m pretty happy with it. Was well worth the time and effort.
tell you truth i don't think you need a shed building around it but it does look cool. it not like you spend a lot of time outside putting wood in boiler.
@@funtyes1970 Hey Dave don't you think it would help to make it last a lot longer if not I would like to see the difference
I like your set up a lot.
How you have it set up is the best!
Thanks for sharing. I am eventually planning on getting one of these units for outside. Will be heating three buildings close to one another.
I never knew how much I would love this machine. It’s so nice and having it under cover is the best thing ever. Check out my other videos on how I heat everything. I’m always making improvements.
I’m definitely envious of your setup
Thank you. A lot of time, ideas and effort went into the whole set up.
Very cool setup
Now this is a wood boiler! Glad you mentioned the smoke, wonder if a good exhaust fan above your boiler tools would suck that smoke right on out.
When the smoke bypass is engaged it does a great job to get most of the smoke up and out of the exhaust pipe. I usually get inpatient and open it to soon. But the smoke usually decimated pretty quickly. If I took the time and cracked the door for 15-20seconds the smoke then wouldn’t be a problem. Another reason it is rated for indoor use.
this is so freaking awesome 😁👍
Nicely done 👍
Awesome set up!
Thanks!
Great video 🧬☀️🔥
Your the smartest one I have seen yet
Nice setup you have. Under roof is way to go
Cool Beans! Nice Set up! Well Dun!!
Thanks! 👍
I was wondering if someone was goin to beat me to posting a video about this. Just bought a new house and our stove is going under a inclosed area like this. Nice job 👍🏻
Nice setup 👍
Thanks!
Great looking set up . I would do exactly the same .
Great set up 👍🤙🇦🇺
Thank you
Nice set up.
At first I thought you were going through a lot of wood for heating a house but to also heat your shop and the concrete slab that seem not so bad. Nice setup!
Yeah doesn’t go threw to much wood. Only time we burn a lot is when we are melting snow. If the house is just running it’s a joke how much we burn. Practically nothing.
Nice setup
Thanks!
That’s a beautiful set up everything out of the weather wood right next to the boiler easy peasy. But let me understand. Is the smoke only an issue when you open the door to refill ? If that’s the case couldn’t you mount one of those high powered fans ( like a cheap harbor freight one ) from the ceiling to blow smoke out the small door. I love how you have it all set up for snowmelt. Like I say awesome set up. 👍👍
Yes only smoke you get is when you open the door to fill the stove. If I waited a little more when I have the door cracked it wouldn’t smoke at all. I’m just impatient. And thank you. Lots of thought went into the build.
Very nice set up with the stove in out of the elements. Your boy will likely be running it when he is your age.
I’m sure both my boys will be taking over a lot of my duties when they get older. That’s what there for right? Haha
I commend you for purchasing an gasification unit. Much healthier for everyone, vapor verses smoke. I like your set up and thorough explanation of same. Yours & youtube channel Lumnah Acres, are the only 2 gas boilers i am aware of. There are many outside wood furnaces in my rural area over the past 30+ years. All are open air design, necessitating replacement every 10 years, then at $10 Grand each. Yours more feasible, efficient with longevity. As an old sheet metal man, give consideration to fabricating an 24 gauge galvanized hood (shaped like an welding hood) secured a few inches above the feed/cleanout doors. Vent with an 6/8 " galv., flue thru roof with open cap to alleviate smoke when opening door. Six feet should draft well, no need for damper or motor.. This should make it 100 % perfect. btw. Have been using basement wood stove most of my life. With gas model & few years younger, i would follow in your path.
Thank you. I love the stove. And I will take the exhaust vent into consideration. Lots of people recommend it. We will see what I decide. I will have to check acres out as well. Love the technology of the gasification units. Much better for the environment.
We're getting ready to install one indoors too :)
@MountainBeaches awesome. What boiler are you installing?
@@Treestofirewood same unit, the G10000. Installing the RhinoFlex tubing in the ground prior to pouring concrete is proving to be a major challenge. It's very difficult to work with in that it doesn't bend well.
@MountainBeaches you will love the unit. And yeah it can be a pain. Leave it out in the sun to warm up and it does get easier to use.
You should throw some barn doors on those openings! Also been fighting my setup outside as well, going to be adding an enclosed cold storage over top of the stove this spring!
Yeah I may add some doors this summer. We will see. Have a ton of projects going on. But I also do like having both end open as well for good air flow. And having a cover over the stove is huge and you will say to yourself why didn’t I do this sooner.
@@Treestofirewood lol right, I’ve been fighting a few feet of snow lately digging for wood like an idiot!
Lol I know how that goes. When on tree jobs we fight that all winter. Either being snow on or fighting with the snow whiling taking these trees down. All part of the job. And yea shelter for the wood goes a long way.
We have an outside Portage and Main boiler burning coal, heating a 1900 sq ft house and a 2000 sq ft shop. I actually wish I'd have built it into a building. We didn't want to be burning wood because of the time involved in filling it. Our coal boiler is automatic. We have a 19 ft tall hopper bottom bin beside it and the coal is augered in as needed and the ash is augered out. Once a month or so I clean out the fly ash. We burn about 12 to 14 tonnes of coal a year. We start it in late October or early November and shut it off in April. Temperatures here in Saskatchewan Canada are averaging about 0 F in the winter. I might have missed it, but did you say how many cords of wood you burn in a winter?
Sounds like you have a nice set up. I actually burn year round. Summer just to heat our hot water. But winter season around 10 full cords. But now we are heating around 8,000sq ft.
A video of that setup would be awesome!
I'm trying to decide between the heat master or the crown royal. This looks like a really nice stove.
Those were my top two. I’m happy with my choice.
Very nice. I wanted one of these, but went with an indoor wood stove in my basement instead for now. Still may put one in later. I'll have to look back at your videos. The wood looks like you split it down fairly small for what most people use in a boiler. I'm sure it burns better and cleaner that way.
Gasification units require smaller splits and prefer dry wood. The old traditional boilers you can throw whatever you want in them for the most part. I wanted a more efficient unit. Plus it’s epa compliant. Virtually no smoke out the stack and uses very little wood. And yes please come back as I will continue to post videos.
@@Treestofirewood Thanks for the reply. I went and watched more videos after this one. Very nice setup. I didn't realize you had a tree and wood business. Sweet! Yea, for sure, you are burning a lot more efficient than those guys who throw garbage , old or green wood in their boilers. Maybe you can post some tree work videos too. I think a lot of us would enjoy that content as well. Take care.
Nice rig.
Get yourself a old stove 36" draft hood, mount just above boiler door within on/off switch, turn good on when loading, no smoke easy fix.
Having the boiler under cover is the only way to fly. This summer I want to build a woodshed/boiler cover so the firewood is right there. That way when it is blowing and snowing, I don't care.
You will be so happy and wonder why you didn’t do it sooner. Best decision ever.
AWESOME!
Thanks!
I've thought about one of these for a couple years but they look like a part time job at best and full time job at worst depending on whether you can afford the extra building and/or the equipment to process your own wood if you go that route.
Yeah I get what your saying. But for me it’s a must since I produce on average 1,000 full cords a year and have all the equipment to do so. Owning a tree service as well does help. But gotta love what you do and I definitely do.
Any feedback from insurance providers regarding preparation and installation of this equipment?
I have a gassifier boiler made by portage and main in the walkway to my enclosed wood shed . The shed is a 24x30 calf shelter which is made out of behlen steel pannels so you can pile wood right against the walls . The shed is a shed roof style with the high part away form the stove and is put on a 2 foot pony wall so the front is 15 ft high . It will house enough wood for the winter just loosley put in there . The one thing that i had an issue with was the insurance companies won't insure the stove or building and they wanted to have me cut down the live oak trees within 50 ft of the furnace wich isn't being done unless they die . How are you with the insurance ?? But it shure is a joy to go out to feed the furnace when it is - 35C out and the wind is blowing . With nice dry wood i find that it uses alot less and there are less ashes as well . How does your stack respond to the colder weather does the cap drip down on the roof ?? I take my cap off when it gets cold enough that it doesent rain anymore just snow . I am up in manitoba canada .
Sounds like you have a nice set up as well. Haven’t had any issues with insurance. I leave my rain cap on all the time. I haven’t really seen any dripping coming off the cap.
hi there put a roof over mine over 25 years ago and have close wood maybe you have seen it , good move , john
Yes roof is key. And yes I’ve seen your videos. You have a lot going on.
New Subscriber new. Thanks for the details planning on doing the same this year. Only difference is we are going to place the unit then build around. And yes open ended building. #slackoutdoors
Welcome aboard! You won’t regret having a shelter for it.
What type of heat coils do you have in your shop, winter temp range, etc? Like your outfit. 👍🏻👏🏻
Tomorrow morning I’m posted a video of the inside of my garage set up. But I heat both shops currently with a 200,000btu water to air heat exchanger with fan. It cranks the heat out. Winter temp I have set at 60 unless I’m working inside then I turn it up to 65/70
Awesome. Would love to see the plumbing end of the system.
What do you mean the plumbing end?
@Trees to Firewood You've already done a video covering the plumbing system. I saw it after I commented. Great content.
I have an old style n it’s outside for 14 years. The only things I deal with r proper wood amount /type to keep it from overheating when temperatures are above zero. Also challenging to start a fire if it’s windy but t g not many. All out the best investment I ever made. About 8 k counting a semi of wood n tools needed for use. I’ve saved over 30kin propane n have all the free heat I can use.
Boilers are the best. Little bit of work. But self rewarding.
A nice powerhouse wall fan right beside the stove on that wall would make quick work of the smoke
I have a woodstove in my basement and would love a outdoor wood boiler. I would be able to heat my shop with it as well (had a woodstove as well). The mess being contained right outside near the wood pile would be a huge pile. I would make another lean too off my shop so its under cover too. I would also get a gasification unit so it will be a few years before i can justify buying one.
Once you have one you will be asking why didn’t you do it sooner. And yes being able to heat multiple areas with one heat source is awesome. One fire to maintain and one mess and it’s all outside
I also have electric baseboard so my thinking was put one heat exchanger in the basement near the woodstove to heat the house. Rather than run hydronic baseboard and lines.
@@Treestofirewood I have been tossing the idea around once again...lol. It occured to me last night i could remove the woodstove from my shop and place a Heatmaster G4000 in its place. A little modification would have to get done, maybe move the chimney...whatever. But then its out of the elements. I just built a new woodshed off my shop so it's not to far away. It's either a 12-40 foot walk to a separate area with no cover or basically the same walk but going into the shop.
Sounds like you already know what you want to do. Do it already. Could be reaping all the benefits already. You won’t regret it. Love my boiler.
What does your insurance say about it being in this location?
I want to do this with mine. A lean-to, with gravel floor. But, this concrete looks like a great idea. Easy clean up for sawdust, bark, & splitter droppings.
Actually they are fine with it. It’s a total of 1 less fire going. One not in the house and one not in the garage. Was a win win
I wonder what insurance companies think about it? Our insurance company came out and measured how far away from walls and how our stove was piped before they would cover our house. We have a wood burning stove in our living room. Your boiler is totally different concept but just curious what they might say. I really like your setup👍👍
The boiler is certified to be indoors so not sure what insurance would say. But the fact that it is certified to be indoors not sure there is much they could say and the stove has many safety features as far as shutting it self down incase of over heating and regulates the burn so well. But yes most other boilers must be so far away from homes and structures.
You say about an insurance company “there is not much they could say”. One thing they could say is that it doesn’t meet their risk requirements so they won’t insure it. Even though it is certified for indoor installation there is no way to force the insurer to underwrite the risk.
That may be true. But I think our insurance would be much happier with an outdoor boiler rather than the 3 indoor fireplaces and 1 in the garage going all winter. The size of my policies for what I all insure I’m not sure they would make a big deal. But who knows.
@@Treestofirewood Yes, they probably would because they would see a reduced risk. They have decades of experience around assessing the risk related to fireplaces causing payouts, but relatively little about your type of heating system. To the insurance company it is almost all about risk, while your local agent is more focused on their commissions from your premiums.
I would certainly prefer your setup to one where the furnace is 50 feet from any shelter. More of these are being used and they seem to be effective.
As long as you have any wood furnace installed properly with correct flue parts and clearances you should be fine. I had an indoor furnace and an aquatherm 275 inside a shop. Insurance was 30$ extra per year.
Nice set up. Why do you split the wood so small? I thought leaving wood large was a benefit of the boiler? Less splitting?
Gasification units are a little different. Needs dry wood. And my processor splits the wood all the same size so it’s no big deal. You can burn a little bigger in the boiler but I’ve had really good success with what I have been burning.
Just found your channel. Why did you not turn the boiler around facing the wood and door? A few steps saved as you get older and by the door for ash removal . Put those clear plastic strip curtains on the door like at Lowes just to keep drafts down.
Lean too is open on both sides. Wanted the boiler facing the house. Plus I from time to time bring crates in there and it’s easier to come from other side and I drop the wood right by the door. I may put barn doors of some sort on the opening by the wood. Not sure yet.
@@Treestofirewood cool. I see now. You can bring those in with the tractor.
Thanks for sharing! 👍 Do you need some Fire Alarms, CO2 Alarm, some Auto Fire Water Sprinklers and Security Cameras to keep it safer?? How do you deal with floodings and Thunder Storms for your Big Barn??
Flooding’s, we have to much grade for any water ever to be an issue. Could always use my cameras.
Ok. Your setup is nice, but compared to that dog, it takes 2nd place. What a beautiful beast.
Yeah I agree, he is my baby
would a through fan on the wall next to the boiler help with the smoke? BTW how many SQ FT can that heat? and can you split the direction, that is, can it heat two separate buildings?
Yes it can and does heat two seperate buildings. On the back of the stove there are two pumps. One goes to the house and one goes to both garages. I could add another two pumps if I chose to down the road if I wanted to heat additional storage or something else. I may build a wood kiln this year. Which the boiler will provide the heat for that.
The stove is rated to heat up to 10,000sqft.
@@Treestofirewood Thank you, I've been thinking of moving and building and this heating source seems to check a lot of my boxes.
Being it's so far from your house, how much heat loss to you have between the boiler and the house?
I’ve done a video on that already. When it was 20 degrees the other day I checked it again. If nothing is running in the house. The return temp is literally less than a degree coming back to the boiler. Hard to believe I know. Crazy. Maybe because I have the water flowing so fast idk.
Malamutes are great dogs, we have two right now
I thought it was an insurance issue that say you can’t put it inside because ur premium will increase 40%.
I certainly like it and think it’s safe, but insurance will say no, no, no, you not covered if it burns your building.
That may be the case but this stove is certified to be indoors. And has plenty of safety features to prevent an uncontrollable fire.
Ins. Co. must issue an wood stove exclusion endorsement to the policy, if they refuse coverage. As a former agent, good housekeeping goes along way for their compliance.
Nice, can you valve off heat to driveway when it's not needed?
So I can valve off the driveway heat exchanger if I wanted too. But I have the snow melt system on a wifi plug so I can activate the system from anywhere and to have the water constantly flowing through that heat exchanger at all times doesn’t take any heat loss as it stays at the water temp at all times until system is activated. I will post video of snowmelt system soon
Just found you and subbed. Started my channel a year ago. Look forward to following your channel.
Welcome aboard!
Does the unit raise the temperature inside the building any? At least from the chimney pipe? What if there were doors on the building? Would the unit heat the area via radiant heat?
Yeah there’s probably a little heat generated from the boiler. If the building was closed up it would probably be pretty warm inside. Not sure how much. But it would only be from the chimney pipe but the double walled pipe doesn’t really put off heat. You can touch it with bare hands no problem.
@@Treestofirewood Thanks much. You have an AMAZING set up!!!
Are these series of outdoor wood boiler certified for indoor use? I'm not sure its in the scope of certification (should say on the label). Thanks!
Yes the G series from HeatMaster are certified to either be indoor or outdoor. So having the boiler under the lean too is completely fine. Only reason I do because I want to keep it out of the elements.
@@Treestofirewoodagreed! I also have a friend that did the same, has less issues with smoke blowing back in his face. You could also add a hood over the front loading door with its own blower and switch to suck out the extra smoke. All the best!
Yeah in the future if I find time I will instal an exhaust vent just for the excess smoke that comes out. Usually it isn’t an issue. But will be a nice improvement when I do.
Why is your wood split so small.. love your setup. I have a wood boiler out door. Find using wood bigger last longer
I will make a video today addressing why my wood is split smaller than others. Been asked that a lot lately.
I see the white casing for you’re underground..I assume it came from outdoor wood boiler I have the same for my c250
Yes I do believe that’s where I got it. I would have to double check. 360ft of run to house and back and in single digits I lose less than a degree. So it’s doing just fine. How are you liking yours?
Curious why you split your wood so small, do you also have a woodstove?
Smaller splits dry better. And gasification units require dry wood. Better BTU’s. These gasification units are so efficient it’s crazy compared to the older style of boilers. You can burn bigger pieces. I just chose to split and burn what I have. Haven’t been let down yet. Get an even burn and makes for really good coals. I do what works for me. The old barrel in a barrel you could get away with whatever you throw in there. Not so much with these as the fire burns down instead of up.
@@Treestofirewood Ah, didn't realize it was a gasification boiler, thank you.
Curious why do you split your wood so fine seems like a lot of extra work
I own a firewood company as well. All my wood goes through a processor so all the pieces are roughly the same size with very little effort. And the wood dries better and burns really well. Smaller splits in a gasified burns the best.
Was thinking the same thing. Makes sense.
Tax deductible.
@@rv10flyer84 yep
The face of my boiler is in the building. Boiler itself is outside. Pretty unique setup i guess. I havent seen another.
I wanted to keep the whole boiler out of the elements. Just in case something needed to be fixed. Out of the elements and all wood is covered and close by for loading.
@@Treestofirewood i get it. With the price of boilers now i dont blame you. I purchased the home with the boiler already set up this way.
Where do you get your bags? Thank you in advance
northernwoodsmen.com/6-pack-face-cord-firewood-tote-bags/
Are there any Pros and Cons for putting a Wood Boiler in the Basement of a house (assuming it is legal), any comments, please??
I suppose you can if you could get it down there. Exposed basement I’m sure you could. Not sure if insurance will like that. When opening the door you will get smoke coming out at some point so there that to think about. Then it’s bringing the wood to the boiler as well.
Justin rhodes youtube channel has a different brand & has been having trouble with it. He's is under a shelter too. Moore family farms has one like yours
How much wood would you use in a year?
Hard to say really. I heat so many things now with the boiler. But if I was going to heat just my home I would probably go through 3/4 cords of wood. Maybe.
Attached garage is ideal
You could put an electric next on the roof to pull smoke out.
Yeah. I haven’t installed one yet. But one is in the near future.
What’s the efficiency?
My unit has an epa efficiency rating of 88%.
For my next boiler I am 100% building a shelter over mine!
You won’t regret it
Oh and by the way. I follow you. Been watching for quite a while. Good stuff man. Too bad we don’t live closer. Could make some really good content.
@@Treestofirewood I appreciate the support brother! Working on another boiler video now as we speak! Id love to travel one year all around to see peoples boiler set ups what a video series that would be!
@@HomesteadJay yeah that would be cool. I would be down to be a part of that.
@@Treestofirewood noted my friend!
I hope in 23 years you will have Geo thermal plumbed in and you can leave all the chores for the young kids.
Inside the house and hot water heated radiators is cheapest.
Ive seen people install a vortex fan and vent suspended right above the door so when you open it it sucks all the smoke out. Super cheap fix for smoke in the shop. th-cam.com/video/DigBuIQuW9g/w-d-xo.html at 32 seconds here is an example
Yeah I’m going to do something similar. The smoke isn’t to bad. But sometimes when I have to put a lot of wood in the smoke does fill up pretty quick.
I slid a cheap carport over my boiler
That’ll work just fine
Really zero con to have it protected inside from the elements
tell you truth i never see wood boiler inside a building like that . all wood boiler i see in my era are outside in there yard . my brother in-law have his boiler outside pass 20 years still works and still look good . i just thought all wood stove boiler are outside in your yard with no shed building around it
Government en route to regulate that out of existence too going on forever.
Eat Hickory
If you want to harvest 10 times the amount of wood and burn it. Get one
What do you mean 10 times the amount of wood? I’m going to burn a little more than what I burned inside the house. And I’m heating over twice the amount now.
I’d find it hard not to throw my trash & trash bags in the furnace lol
Oh some people do.
Close it in and put in an exhaust fan. No biggie.
Yeah I could do that but I like the air flow we do get. Plus we are always taking things in and out of there all the time. Maybe some barn doors. Maybe.
Great system for heating the driveway. I guess in a few years it will make itself redundant with global warming.
I guess if you're dumb enough to believe that 😂😂
Why don't you tell the people how much would your burning
I do in a lot of my other videos. Go through about a full cord a month so far. Been kind of warm this winter.
Evidently you don't have a job because I used to sell outdoor wood furnaces and I'm going to tell you something they burn a lot of wood
What do you mean I don’t have a job? Explain what a lot of wood is? To some making firewood or buying it may be a chore. Rather than paying money to heat your home you can heat it with wood. Way more satisfaction to heat with wood. Laziness is just paying money to heat rather than doing a little work to heat your family. Some models burn way more than others. My boiler barely consumes wood. Lot of variables to consider.
that is just wastefull all of the way around. no wonder we are losing trees.
can u gauge the temperature you can have your house ?
I can have my house temp at whatever temperature I want it at. Thermostats operates like a normal thermostat instead of the gas firing it just blows air past the water to air heat exchanger and heats the home. Super nice.
@Heatmasterss check this guy out! Great knowledge and finally an honest review