Firewood is a passion, and an addiction. I refer to it as my therapy. Weather it's chainsaw, splitter, or tractor time. It's my way of getting out of my desk job and doing something that requires a completely different mindset to get done. The fact that I get to heat my house and possibly make a little extra cash from selling some wood is just bonus. I'm not in it for the job to make income. Yes it started years ago as trying to save some money by heating my house with wood, but it has evolved into my passion for being out in the woods.
I've owned a Central boiler 5648 for 20 years this year and it's still going strong. I'm 58 and when it fails in the next couple years (that's what i expect) I'll be replacing it. That will put me near 80 years old when my second one wears out. I also did as you and started a firewood business years back when i was younger. I don't sell it any longer. I have 75 acres of oak and can't keep up with the cull trees. I could harvest a cord of wood per acre forever and not get the forest cleaned up. I find it very satisfying as you do. Great video.
Wow thank you for sharing your thoughts on said subject! Props to you for rocking a boiler for 20 years and wanting another one! I love it! Isnt it amazing how you cant keep up with a forest? Its crazy to think that. SUCH a awesome resource we are blessed to have!
@@HomesteadJaymost people will never understand our want and need to be out in the outdoors with our chainsaws and headphones just cuttin and relaxing
I don’t even know if you can replace them anymore without the mission standards, but I’m just gonna make one literally out of the door and controls. It’s a simple design as long as I can make a water jacket. I’m not gonna mess around or trying to weld it and fix itwhen mine goes.
@jeremiahpowell355 that's great idea. You can buy them but not for residential is what they told me. However they said they would sell me one and it would be up to me to install and do with it what I want. I'll probably go that route if and when it sure fail. Hopefully when it fails there will still be enough steel to weld to. I love this stove. I actually have another video coming out Friday on it. Thanks for the comment. Have a great week.
I love mine. I find it funny when people point out how much work it is. I enjoy the work and seek it out in the winter when you can't do much else. Great excercise and great for seasonal depression!
Exactly! Im trying to get to a point where when I turn the boiler off im done till next season 6 months later. 6 months of work for 6 months off is not a bad deal! LOL it is great for that seasonal depression too!
I have a 6048 as well. It was a hassle to get it installed and going. This is my second year burning wood. It's also a hassle to get set up with chainsaws, trucks, trailers, etc... Once you do, though, it doesn't take that long to cut a year's worth of wood. Plus you probably live out in the country anyway, and you've probably got trees to deal with. May as well toss those in the wood boiler and save yourself 5k a year. Having cheap heat is amazing though. We keep our house at 75 degrees, even when its 20 below outside. The garage stays at 60 degrees so I never have to get into a cold vehicle. It makes living in the north woods so much more comfortable. My friend and I also started a tree business. He's doing it full time now, and I just help him from time to time on big jobs. It's so much fun, great exercise, and makes a guy feel like a badass. 😎
We've used a Hawkin 2100 for 20 years. Yes, it's a lot of work. If you have to pay for wood there's no way it makes any sense. I live on 10 acres of forest (in the middle of suburbia) and have firewood in every direction I look, plus the neighbors who drop off their undesired wood (pine) and "Y"s and knots they can't split. I WISH so badly I had a house where I could have radiant floor heat but I'm on a slab. I bought a much larger one than I needed because I thought we had money and I was going to put up a metal building with heated floors. That didn't happen. I'm mechanically inept and intimidated and have been able to keep it running, only once having to paying to have an electrician to re-wire it for me after 17 years. I feed mine twice a day, 12 hours apart unless it's super windy cold. I don't have a tractor or 4 wheeler and I cut and pull it all by sled on leaves. The best thing for me is using the canopy portion of the tree, cutting limbs into 4 foot chunks that for me are kindling around "Yule Log" sized chunks. I split wood for a smaller indoor stove that we sometimes use in the shoulder seasons or emergencies. Using the smaller stove occasionally is a great reminder. I know I use a ton of wood in the out door boiler. I'd say I use 20 large pieces of wood a day. But then feeding the little one, it ads up if you are feeding it six times a day. Plus I only clean ash once a month and it's fine powder dust compared to less efficient indoor wood stove. The first year I thought gee this is great but it's unsustainable. I imagined I'd use up all the dead wood. Ha-ha-ha. Funny how mother nature provides!
Mother nature is funny like that lol its like painting the golden gate bridge. Once you get to the end you start again haha if you have a large plot of land your gonna be managing the forest year long LOL thanks for sharing your journey! I love to hear it!
I'm a 6048 owner myself for @ 15 years now, it's a lot easier than my old Woodchuck inside wood furnace. I'm glad people think it's too hard to burn wood, who wants to be like them anyway.
I heat a 7000 sq ft home,includes a 3 car garage. Bought oil for 1 st time in 4 yrs this yr,oil is used more in summer months for hot water. Im on yr 18, classic 6048.I have saved 10s of thousands of $$$$$. Great video everything you said is 100% rt on. Plus its a free gym membership
Great video Jay. It’s a lifestyle burning wood for heat. I live that lifestyle and love it. I’m outside constantly cutting my own wood on my own property keeping fit and breathing healthy air. Some just don’t have the time or the desire to learn how to to sharpen their own saws, learn how to fell a tree etc etc. Keep up the great videos!
Jay, as a fellow CB wood-boiler guy since 2008, love your videos and keep doing what your doing. You provide great info, wood is a great heat source when wood is free. Plus, you get great exercise when you're outside cutting and stockpiling wood.
JAY, great video. I love my central boiler classic. I set mind at 74 degrees and I'm NOT burning LP gas it heats my hot water to. I love cutting wood plus I have a friend bring me wood when he clears a lot for a home or pole barn, and it's all free. all I have to do cut, split, stack it. It's money that I'm not buying LP GAS in the winter. HAVE great day!!!
Indeed! You cant go wrong there! Long live wood heat!
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We Have a Crown Royal 7300E gassifier OWB. Had a Natures Comfort updraft OWB before that for 17 years. Heating with wood via a hydronic system is the only way to heat a home , feel warm, and stay warm. Up here in Maine, wood is KING. We own a 30 acre wood lot. The Crown Royal is without a doubt, the best OWB we've ever had. It was 3 deg F. this morning. It was 70 deg F inside with the unit idling. That said, if you don't have the experience to use chainsaws ,a wood shed to store your wood and the stamina to cut and split your own wood, an OWB might not be for you. I'm 71 yo and I STILL cut and split all of our wood and have it stacked in the shed by June of each year.
I installed a heatmaster g200 and run propylene glycol in it heats my house forced air furnace and my garage slab 32x42 . Once you get your wood for the year, .then it's no problem . I have close to 30 full cords, birch, pine, popular, and some maple that I will be selling . I only go through about 5 cords a year. Love getting the wood myself. At home, not much work to keep the boiler going, put some wood in the morning and some at night done.
It’s really not bad when you are up and set up! I’m finally set up after years of working at it and now it’s nice to just toss some in in the morning and night
I've been heating with a wood stove for the past 30 years and have never used any other heat source. Love cutting firewood and all that comes with it. Starting my retirement this month and starting a little Air BNB bundle service.
My central boiler is 20 years old this year. I've had her for 3 years. I bought acreage on a property covered in dead standing softwood. They are a fire risk so it is encouraged that I cut as much deadfall as possible. I drop/haul/cut/split/stack and burn 9 cords a season for a 5000 sq/f log cabin. The ash all goes back into the forest, we don't burn garbage in it, the ash is super fantastic for new growth. It's literally a pleasure to collect wood knowing I'm being as beneficial to the forest as it is being to me. Wonderful way to live a life. 🍻
Hi, so I have a boiler that was given to me right before the old one died. I didn't realize until a couple days ago, that you have to treat the water in the boiler for corrosion. That's what I think happened to the first one, the corrosion ate through it and the pipes leaked. What do you use to treat the water that makes it safe to drink? I seen Inhibitor Plus as one, but not sure how it works. Also, how do you do it? Thanks
@@kyles1322 Your boiler water and your drinking water shouldn't ever mix when installed correctly. That would only happen in the event of a malfunction like a ruptured heat exchanger.
I always enjoy your videos. I have not watched for a while and I sure am glad to see you got that boiler turned around facing the woodpiles. It must make it a lot easier. One thing I noticed you said is that it does not take electricity to create the heat which is true but it does take it to run the circulators so I think if you invest in one of these it is a good idea to have a backup source of power. I have had a 6048 since 2006 and I still have not built any sheds. I either stack it in big piles and tarp it which is a little bit of a pain or put it in racks I can pick up with a tractor that I cover with tarps. As far as the people saying they are a waste of time I would not worry about it too much. They probably don't realize they do things that we consider a waste of time. As far as having to go outside and fill it I easily get 12 hours with every fill and quite often 24+hours and I have to go to work and come home 5 days a week so it is very easy to fill it when I get home and then before I go to work if it is needed which if it does is a matter of throwing in 6-8 pieces to get it through the day. I find it therapeutic as well which might mean we are both crazy. It is a lot of work but if done is safe and great exercise and does not hurt you a bit. I also have access to a lot of free wood and usually do not even have to go get it or if I do it is really close by. I am looking forward to your pros and cons video.
My CB is 20 years old this year. Its a hobby. I get free wood off marketplace and a tree service from time to time. How I met the tree service guy was a cleanup for him. He just completed a very large yree job and the home owner refused to pay him till the wood was removed. I have kubota loader and a 16 ft dump trailer. Two hours later the yard was clean. He got payed and I got 5 cords of wood
OWBs have their place, but to me it's like driving a lifted, smoking, diesel truck: Dirty and inefficient. IMO it's a mistake to purchase a new OWB vs a catalytic wood stove centrally located in a house. For a guy with multiple outbuildings to heat, they are the perfect solution, but I gotta say: Living next to a smoldering boiler is disgusting and it gives wood burners a bad name. Not unlike driving behind a coal-rolling mall crawler. 100% agree with you on enjoying the process of heating with wood. I much prefer hours of splitting wood to 10 minutes on a riding mower or watching tv. Hopefully my hot-take isn't too hostile- thanks for the upload!
No I get it. A boiler in a bad spot can be a nusinance so I understand that part but no worries no hostility taken. I love wood stoves and have nothing against them! Actually putting one in our home as a backup/ early season heater / ambiance next year.
I think some of the negative perception is based on people who don't know how to use them properly. Or I know that for me the amount of visible smoke has decreased greatly as I've learned to use the tool properly. The only time it smokes is when it has turned itself on after being off....If one has a good coal bed going and good mix of different wood, just as you'd have in any fire, then it's a few minutes of smoking and then it burns a great deal cleaner than a standard indoor stove. But I don't burn pallets or treated wood scraps. I do burn pine but mostly it's very dry and used as a fast burning wood to balance out oak, hickory, cherry.
@@genuineimpulse9134 true, I suspect a lot of owners burn unseasoned wood too. They are designed to damp down- that combined with wet firewood makes for a dirty burn
It is a lot of work but in my opinion it's absolutely worth it..I get all my wood from tree companies needing a place to dump wood...free to me and helps them out as well..great video!
Nice to tell people how it is, we are on our second Central Boiler and this one is a down draft, it's a little more work to maintain but once you get used to the routine it's nice. And if you work for a living it will be enjoyment.
I bought a Classic 5036 in 2007 and ran it for 10 years until propane prices went down! I now have the boiler for backup if fuel prices go crazy! Get the good pipe from the boiler to the house also! I love the outside boiler!
I jumped on the wood boiler band wagon last year. I didn't start a tree business but was already hobbying in that business so it also made sense to start heating with wood. I have 2011 E Classic 2400. Put a little TLC into it to get it back up and going, but it did great for the latter half of winter, and looking forward to using it this coming winter. I heard horror stories about these first gen EPA heaters but really the controls are simple and could be re-engineered if need with a simple PLC. The heat is awesome and the work is rewarding. Feed it morning and nite, and it pretty well takes care of itself!!
I personally love the work. keeps me active and that's important as I age. I also like running equipment, so it's very satisfying work. However, money savings is the reason I have one. With no access to natural gas and the cost of propane or electric to heat my place I'm saving somewhere around $3000 a year in the propane option and likely more in the electric option. 14 years in, and I'm about $30K to the good after taking out the cost of the equipment. So for me, it's worth it, and at 47 I'd buy another one if my current one failed.
Indeed its all investment! Ive found a way as well to pay off and or get paid to heat my home! All that wood in that pile was fruit of my labor while also getting paid ( its not about the money) but it sure does make it worth the effort!
Thank you Jay for another wonderful video and i agree with this 1000%!!! One day when i get the chance to own a boiler ill be happy as a clam. I have a couple buddies asking me all the time if they can bring me their companies logs and i sadly have to turn them down for now. Hopefully soon i can get in touch with this one property owner and work something out with them!!!
Two and a half years ago I didn’t know what a wood boiler was, until I bought my current home “and” discovered your channel. Because of your videos I now know what to do with my Central Boiler Classic. It is a lot of manly work but I love doing this. And yes, I have also learned to use a chainsaw. lol
Growing up on a farm it was feed the livestock every morning before school, every evening before supper. I no longer have livestock, so it’s stoke the fire every morning before breakfast, and every evening after work. It’s routine you get re-accustomed to every fall. I figure on 2 hours of work cutting wood for every week I burn.
We've had our OWB for over 12 years. We eliminated the mess of our indoor wood burner, no dust, no bugs, no indoor smoke and no fear of a chimney fire in the house. We love how well the OWB heats our house. I consider gathering and processing wood as sweat equity. We just wouldn't want to heat any other way.
My family runs an old fashioned circular sawmill business. My father, grandfather, and I have all heated our wood boilers with scrap wood that is the byproduct of the lumber we make. It would just pile up if we didn’t burn it. We currently have a Polar G3 2009 model year, and it works great, but when it finally gives up I will look into Central. They seem a little more rugged.
You Got Me STOKED 💥🔥😜✌️🥳 Love Cutting Fire Wood. I’m wanting an outside boiler bad. Everyone around here loves the Hardy. I just saw one in the paper for 2500 to 4000. I have a double door Fisher inside stove, we go through about 15 to 20 a year and an old farmhouse. Just ran across your channel my phone must be listening to me. The wife and I were talking about it earlier. 😂 Carful out There in The Woods! It is Dangerous and. A Rush Falling Trees ✌️🍀😊
ya great video people don’t understand basically the country way of life and we take pride and what we do. Being in the bush there’s nothing like it whether you’re cutting wood hunting fishing whatever. When all the mess can stay outside and not be in the house. Sounds like a great idea. my neighbour has a wood boiler and I don’t think he’s ever looked back. Great way to get rid of unwanted wood, picking up it off the ground recycle reuse take all the ashes and put them in the garden really helps. Anyway great video keep going perfect way of doing life.
Just subscribed…how couldn’t I…way too funny!…I don’t even have one of these boilers…someday when I don’t have neighbors…these things are awesome, you can plumb them into many different buildings and what you didn’t rant about was…how much money you saved by not buying oil, propane, gas or electric to heat your home and shop or whatever you have…best not to talk too much about them to the lazy dummies…they potentially could get up and do something!….great video!
I’ve had my outdoor boiler for 24 years, I live in Northern Vt. I have not spent one penny for heat or hot water in those 24 years. Not only do I not buy my wood but I get paid to clear trees. My boiler burns 4ft lengths, I do not split any of it. I can burn hard wood and softwood, green or dry. People who say out door boilers are a waist of time are one of two things. Lazy and/or ignorant and have no clue what there talking about.
Fixing my Toyota Tacoma gas tank as a tweaker heated a small pocket to red hot to melt 2 holes and steal my gas. So as I am waiting for my JB Weld to cure I am went down an Echo CS7310 rabbit hole and ended up here. Enjoying Vermonts proper rant. It’s nice to see other people are willing to bluntly truth smack tool beaters.
Have a cl4030 for 18 years has saved me 3 to 4 thousand in propane a year. Plus keeps me in shape cutting and hauling wood. It's a lifestyle for sure. But i enjoy cutting wood.
On year two with my boiler (although burned with a wood stove insert for previous 5 years) I was bummed with the super warm October, kept having to push back the boiler start date. Exciting day when I finally lit that march in November.
I just found your channel and subscribed after watching this video. I've been interested in alternative heat sources for a long time now and these wood boilers seem to be a very cheap option ( after installing of course ) and I really like how many buildings it can heat. My friends wife came here from Lithuania. She told him that each one of the apartment blocks where all heated by a separate central boiler
Hi Gary from the UK great video very interesting and informative keep them coming, I totally agree with you the best thing is people moaning about the heating boilers and refilling them and then they pay good money to go to a jim and exercise da don't they realise sorting out the boiler is better exercise and it's free and NOT boring either
Love my stove. You have to like to cut wood and keep a fire. Some people ask how to start there own and I know there heart isn’t it, I always discourage it. Keeps you young. Great video.
hi there ,its a hands on heat . and kind of married to it in the heating season .i do have a glygal in mine , fuel oil hear is over 500 per gallon , takes 850 gallons to heat my house , when i made the boiler over 25 years ago ,i just heated my small green house , now i heat my 6000 house my shop my grudge, and more , i converted a 1,000,000 BTU coal boiler to wood ..i have streamed lined my wood presses with the aid equipment to a minimum.with my work effort over the last 50 years has afforded to buy more bigger better equipment . i will tell you whats funny you got it easy now , back when i made mine nobody knew what a boiler was , there was no computer with all the answers , pex was not even a thought . i could most likely tell you some boiler benefits you may never even thought of , looking forward to your next show . best to all , john
I agree with you. Nothing better than going out to get a load of wood. Being in the forrest. I live for it. I appreciate your content. I love the smell Aldee burning. Keep up the good work.
I have an outdoor wood boiler, and yes it’s a lot of work mostly gathering up the tons of firewood I burn annually and keeping the boiler clean. It’s not for everyone, especially someone that can’t physically do firewood like someone who is up in age and not as able to lift logs anymore. However, for someone who does have the strength and ability, the way I see it is doing firewood is good exercise, which is going to pay you back long term. Being too sedentary is bad for your health so get out there and stay active as long as you can.
This is my 2nd winter with my boiler. Last season took a little learning. This season, it's been flawless, and I haven't purchased a gallon of propane in 2 years!
Im glad you had such a quick turn around! Im still perfecting it but I have it almost mastered now! Turning the machine around was KEY! As you know it was facing the other way which was annoying!
I'm not in your shoes, but agree completely. I also tire of those who say things like, "if everyone heated with wood, the world would run out of trees." Sigh. I enjoyed your rant. 😀
Lotta work into burning woodstove too. Wouldn't have it any other way. Living room gets hot, kitchen is perfect, bedrooms are cool which I love. Gf sleeps under 2 ft of blankets but I use just one light one. Plus going out to cut is escape from the shit of daily life. Don't let the haters get to ya Jay. Only thing is the older ya get the harder it gets. Hard on shoulders and back but maybe that's from having dairy farm.
Yeah I know there will be a day when its a lot of work but for now I love the work and I think as long as you are smart with it and use the tools you got one can be out in the bush working the land hopefully for a lifetime!
Pine ain’t as terrible as people say. In Oregon you season Ponderosa at least 2 years and Lodgepole at least 3 years. Use a lot of kindling to get it super hot then have at it.
The recent price for one is $9600, just for the boiler. Then there is the associated piping and cost. It is getting into the geothermal heating price and this doesn’t include the cost and time for the wood.
That's always my complaint. Is that the maintenance of keeping the water at a certain temperature? And it seems so inefficient Burns too much wood. But some people do have them hooked up to their heat pump. That will help resurculate the water. I'm considering a wood furnace that's not in my basement. That's in a separate shed and use it similar to like a boiler
Jay, Jay, Jay! Buddy, this isn’t the happy Jay that I know!!! I can sense your frustration but try to ignore the lazy ones or the one who point out the obvious and keep doing what you love Buddy! Anyone who is heating a building is either working somewhere to make the money to pay the bill but I like your way better. Slainte, DC🍀
I love how people always equate time and money. For the statement "Waste of Time" to mean anything, you have to show what the value was of using that time for something else and then compare the 2. I would say that a Sunday afternoon on the couch watching football, is a waste of time. Others would say, that same thing is why they go to work. So to each his own.
My only beef with a outdoor wood boiler is it burns about twice as much wood as a indoor forced air wood furnace. I love my wood heat and cutting wood but why would I want to do twice as much wood?
I've heard that before. Is it too little insulation around the wood boiler? Is it heat loss underground, along the PEX pipe? Is it a convention of burning unseasoned wood? Other?
@@PeterLawton It's all of the above lol. It's just way more efficient to heat the air inside a house than to heat water outside and pump it in then use that hot water to heat up a register or floor.
I think the people who would complain about the amount of work are probably too busy to deal with an outdoor boiler because they have to go workout. In that fitness sense, it's a wash. For me, it's a workout thing, a money-saving thing (I burn offcuts from my sawmill business), and it's a renewable heat source. I heat for the cost of electricity to run the pumps and inducer fan. Tough to beat that!
There’s no feeling like wood heat, when it’s cold and windy and you’re out there pulling in all that wood you know it’s for those cold nights where you don’t care about cranking up that thermostat and keeping your family warm without a worry.
The only thing I dont like about them from watching a couple friends with them is that even if you are just heating your house...no water or other buildings, they go through a ton of wood compared to a wood stove or wood furnaces.
You convinced me to go this route. I’ve never shied from hard work. I do however fear relying on an electric or gas company. Sounds like heating your home with wood will prolong your life if you ask me.
@@HomesteadJay no worries. I lose power all the time which is why I like my wood stove. Figured maybe someone had made a heat powered water moving system. Cheers!
Goid morning Jay we have a 6048 we heat our house an garage an pole barn that has my shop in there. We started selling wood last year which has increased alot from from year
That’s awesome! It’s amazing when you get to a point where you can sell wood off. I never thought I’d be there a few years ago and now it’s wild! Keep on heating!
Total waste of time!! NOT!!!! It’s the best time. I always can’t wait to wake up and go check on my baby. lol correct statement. Definitely married to it. But well worth it.
Jay, i feel the same way you do my friends think i am crszy but once you are set up it us not thst bad. You got to spend a little money to save some money and the feeling when i walk in my house us well worth it. Take care my friend
@@HomesteadJay I have a good friend living in Colebrook. We both grew up in CT. I moved to rural MN 1 1/2 yrs ago because New England is so much more expensive. Minneapolis is, of course, nuts. But that is 3 hrs away.
Good smackdown. My offset plan is owning a home sawmill that actually makes me $ and saves me $ for own use lumber. Simply cutting wood with nice machines doing the heavy lifting. Investment and Profit, directly from your effort. That is 'merica
I have a 6048 and the way I look at it is all the money it saves me on heating oil I can invest some of it into nice things to make my job of cutting wood easier and at the end of the day I still have something to sell anyone who burns gas, oil or electricity just watches it go up in smoke at the end of the month
Depends on the situation. You can heat multiple buildings and hot water with one source of energy. Try doing that with 1 other form of energy it would be tricky
One way or the other you're going to have to work somewhere to pay to heat your house. You can choose to be a slave for someone else and use part of your pay to pay other people to heat your house or you can own that time yourself and heat your home on your terms. I like heating with wood because that is my time, it belongs to me and no one else. It's not for everyone thats for sure.
How long does it take fire wood sellers to make $7,000.00? Sfter the fuel and other costs involved ? One seaso ? Two at most ? Picture if you will, Paying off a Geo thermal heat / cooling system with a firewood business , Even if it took three years. Wood boilers, they are GREAT for healthy people with nothing to do twice a day
I betcha your onto something there. I know for certain I drive around constantly and see woods /people properties with wasted wood sitting everywhere. I think there’s leaps and bounds of firewood available out there but a lot of it ends up wasted or rotted
1.5 hour collect/cut, another 1.5 hour spread over a few days to maintain the fire. So 3 hours for 3ish days. Seems easier and cheaper to use electricy, but this is more interesting.
You are absolutely right, it does take a bit of time. But the warmth and the process make it worth it to me! The more you do it the more efficient you get. I can spend a 10 hour day working in my wood yard and get over a month of heat processed so it’s all how you look at it
They are definitely wood gooblers , I've used both and a central located woodstove inside the home is way more efficient......yes it's dirty and yes you needs to clean your chimney but it eats way less wood.
Wether it's alot of work or not look at the money your saving on heating and hot water no 300 + dollar a month heating bills no cringe if you like to keep it warm as you want or worring about taking long showers or filling the garden tub with scalding water as many times as you want. Heck iv seen guys run them all year to save on energy cost for hot water...
Indeed! Im putting a wood stove in the house next year. Dont "need it" but I want that secondary backup heat source ( no electricity needed for that) more of a emergency contingency plan lol
Like you say it's not for everybody this separates the men from the boys this is what life is about hard work and anymore how many people want to get up and go to work I love it and yes it does involve hard work and i would not trade it for anything
Same here! I love the 6 month work load! Im on track to sit back and do nothing (which I wont) when the boiler is off since I have a good amount of wood stocked up already!
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Firewood is a passion, and an addiction. I refer to it as my therapy. Weather it's chainsaw, splitter, or tractor time. It's my way of getting out of my desk job and doing something that requires a completely different mindset to get done. The fact that I get to heat my house and possibly make a little extra cash from selling some wood is just bonus. I'm not in it for the job to make income. Yes it started years ago as trying to save some money by heating my house with wood, but it has evolved into my passion for being out in the woods.
Jeff yes sir my friend! We are like minded on this topic!
I've owned a Central boiler 5648 for 20 years this year and it's still going strong. I'm 58 and when it fails in the next couple years (that's what i expect) I'll be replacing it. That will put me near 80 years old when my second one wears out. I also did as you and started a firewood business years back when i was younger. I don't sell it any longer. I have 75 acres of oak and can't keep up with the cull trees. I could harvest a cord of wood per acre forever and not get the forest cleaned up. I find it very satisfying as you do. Great video.
Wow thank you for sharing your thoughts on said subject! Props to you for rocking a boiler for 20 years and wanting another one! I love it! Isnt it amazing how you cant keep up with a forest? Its crazy to think that. SUCH a awesome resource we are blessed to have!
@@HomesteadJaymost people will never understand our want and need to be out in the outdoors with our chainsaws and headphones just cuttin and relaxing
I don’t even know if you can replace them anymore without the mission standards, but I’m just gonna make one literally out of the door and controls. It’s a simple design as long as I can make a water jacket. I’m not gonna mess around or trying to weld it and fix itwhen mine goes.
@jeremiahpowell355 that's great idea. You can buy them but not for residential is what they told me. However they said they would sell me one and it would be up to me to install and do with it what I want. I'll probably go that route if and when it sure fail. Hopefully when it fails there will still be enough steel to weld to. I love this stove. I actually have another video coming out Friday on it. Thanks for the comment. Have a great week.
@@jeremiahpowell355 sorry I thought this was on my video. I don't have my glasses on lol
I love mine. I find it funny when people point out how much work it is. I enjoy the work and seek it out in the winter when you can't do much else. Great excercise and great for seasonal depression!
Exactly! Im trying to get to a point where when I turn the boiler off im done till next season 6 months later. 6 months of work for 6 months off is not a bad deal! LOL it is great for that seasonal depression too!
I have a 6048 as well. It was a hassle to get it installed and going. This is my second year burning wood. It's also a hassle to get set up with chainsaws, trucks, trailers, etc...
Once you do, though, it doesn't take that long to cut a year's worth of wood. Plus you probably live out in the country anyway, and you've probably got trees to deal with. May as well toss those in the wood boiler and save yourself 5k a year.
Having cheap heat is amazing though. We keep our house at 75 degrees, even when its 20 below outside. The garage stays at 60 degrees so I never have to get into a cold vehicle. It makes living in the north woods so much more comfortable.
My friend and I also started a tree business. He's doing it full time now, and I just help him from time to time on big jobs. It's so much fun, great exercise, and makes a guy feel like a badass.
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Hell ya!!! I couldnt agree more! I love bidding jobs knowing Im able to burn all the wood I bring home LOL you say north woods what state ya in?
Heck yeah!. Climb high and cut small brother! @@Bixby-and-Buckshot
@HomesteadJay SE MN. Not quite as pretty as Wisconsin but better than South Dakota. 🙂
We've used a Hawkin 2100 for 20 years. Yes, it's a lot of work. If you have to pay for wood there's no way it makes any sense. I live on 10 acres of forest (in the middle of suburbia) and have firewood in every direction I look, plus the neighbors who drop off their undesired wood (pine) and "Y"s and knots they can't split. I WISH so badly I had a house where I could have radiant floor heat but I'm on a slab. I bought a much larger one than I needed because I thought we had money and I was going to put up a metal building with heated floors. That didn't happen. I'm mechanically inept and intimidated and have been able to keep it running, only once having to paying to have an electrician to re-wire it for me after 17 years.
I feed mine twice a day, 12 hours apart unless it's super windy cold. I don't have a tractor or 4 wheeler and I cut and pull it all by sled on leaves. The best thing for me is using the canopy portion of the tree, cutting limbs into 4 foot chunks that for me are kindling around "Yule Log" sized chunks. I split wood for a smaller indoor stove that we sometimes use in the shoulder seasons or emergencies. Using the smaller stove occasionally is a great reminder. I know I use a ton of wood in the out door boiler. I'd say I use 20 large pieces of wood a day. But then feeding the little one, it ads up if you are feeding it six times a day. Plus I only clean ash once a month and it's fine powder dust compared to less efficient indoor wood stove.
The first year I thought gee this is great but it's unsustainable. I imagined I'd use up all the dead wood. Ha-ha-ha. Funny how mother nature provides!
Mother nature is funny like that lol its like painting the golden gate bridge. Once you get to the end you start again haha if you have a large plot of land your gonna be managing the forest year long LOL thanks for sharing your journey! I love to hear it!
I'm a 6048 owner myself for @ 15 years now, it's a lot easier than my old Woodchuck inside wood furnace. I'm glad people think it's too hard to burn wood, who wants to be like them anyway.
hahah exactly!
I heat a 7000 sq ft home,includes a 3 car garage. Bought oil for 1 st time in 4 yrs this yr,oil is used more in summer months for hot water. Im on yr 18, classic 6048.I have saved 10s of thousands of $$$$$. Great video everything you said is 100% rt on. Plus its a free gym membership
Heck yes! Glad you love your boiler! I sure do!
Great video Jay. It’s a lifestyle burning wood for heat. I live that lifestyle and love it. I’m outside constantly cutting my own wood on my own property keeping fit and breathing healthy air. Some just don’t have the time or the desire to learn how to to sharpen their own saws, learn how to fell a tree etc etc.
Keep up the great videos!
You are correct! Thanks for the positivity!
Jay, as a fellow CB wood-boiler guy since 2008, love your videos and keep doing what your doing. You provide great info, wood is a great heat source when wood is free. Plus, you get great exercise when you're outside cutting and stockpiling wood.
Indeed! Thank YOU! for supporting the channel all these years!
JAY, great video. I love my central boiler classic. I set mind at 74 degrees and I'm NOT burning LP gas it heats my hot water to. I love cutting wood plus I have a friend bring me wood when he clears a lot for a home or pole barn, and it's all free. all I have to do cut, split, stack it. It's money that I'm not buying LP GAS in the winter. HAVE great day!!!
Indeed! You cant go wrong there! Long live wood heat!
We Have a Crown Royal 7300E gassifier OWB. Had a Natures Comfort updraft OWB before that for 17 years. Heating with wood via a hydronic system is the only way to heat a home , feel warm, and stay warm.
Up here in Maine, wood is KING. We own a 30 acre wood lot. The Crown Royal is without a doubt, the best OWB we've ever had.
It was 3 deg F. this morning. It was 70 deg F inside with the unit idling. That said, if you don't have the experience to use chainsaws ,a wood shed to store your wood and the stamina to cut and split your own wood, an OWB might not be for you. I'm 71 yo and I STILL cut and split all of our wood and have it stacked in the shed by June of each year.
God bless you at 71 to still be rocking a boiler. Love to hear it! It deff will keep you active and it’s a great way to heat! Happy to hear!
People are just afraid of work, good video guy 👍
Thanks brother!
I installed a heatmaster g200 and run propylene glycol in it heats my house forced air furnace and my garage slab 32x42 . Once you get your wood for the year, .then it's no problem . I have close to 30 full cords, birch, pine, popular, and some maple that I will be selling . I only go through about 5 cords a year. Love getting the wood myself. At home, not much work to keep the boiler going, put some wood in the morning and some at night done.
It’s really not bad when you are up and set up! I’m finally set up after years of working at it and now it’s nice to just toss some in in the morning and night
I've been heating with a wood stove for the past 30 years and have never used any other heat source. Love cutting firewood and all that comes with it. Starting my retirement this month and starting a little Air BNB bundle service.
I love it. Good luck in your adventure!
My central boiler is 20 years old this year. I've had her for 3 years. I bought acreage on a property covered in dead standing softwood. They are a fire risk so it is encouraged that I cut as much deadfall as possible. I drop/haul/cut/split/stack and burn 9 cords a season for a 5000 sq/f log cabin. The ash all goes back into the forest, we don't burn garbage in it, the ash is super fantastic for new growth. It's literally a pleasure to collect wood knowing I'm being as beneficial to the forest as it is being to me. Wonderful way to live a life. 🍻
Hi, so I have a boiler that was given to me right before the old one died. I didn't realize until a couple days ago, that you have to treat the water in the boiler for corrosion. That's what I think happened to the first one, the corrosion ate through it and the pipes leaked. What do you use to treat the water that makes it safe to drink? I seen Inhibitor Plus as one, but not sure how it works. Also, how do you do it? Thanks
@@kyles1322 Your boiler water and your drinking water shouldn't ever mix when installed correctly. That would only happen in the event of a malfunction like a ruptured heat exchanger.
I always enjoy your videos. I have not watched for a while and I sure am glad to see you got that boiler turned around facing the woodpiles. It must make it a lot easier. One thing I noticed you said is that it does not take electricity to create the heat which is true but it does take it to run the circulators so I think if you invest in one of these it is a good idea to have a backup source of power. I have had a 6048 since 2006 and I still have not built any sheds. I either stack it in big piles and tarp it which is a little bit of a pain or put it in racks I can pick up with a tractor that I cover with tarps.
As far as the people saying they are a waste of time I would not worry about it too much. They probably don't realize they do things that we consider a waste of time. As far as having to go outside and fill it I easily get 12 hours with every fill and quite often 24+hours and I have to go to work and come home 5 days a week so it is very easy to fill it when I get home and then before I go to work if it is needed which if it does is a matter of throwing in 6-8 pieces to get it through the day.
I find it therapeutic as well which might mean we are both crazy. It is a lot of work but if done is safe and great exercise and does not hurt you a bit. I also have access to a lot of free wood and usually do not even have to go get it or if I do it is really close by. I am looking forward to your pros and cons video.
Hey Glock! Welcome back brother how are you? Thanks for tuning in and glad to have ya back!
My CB is 20 years old this year. Its a hobby. I get free wood off marketplace and a tree service from time to time.
How I met the tree service guy was a cleanup for him. He just completed a very large yree job and the home owner refused to pay him till the wood was removed. I have kubota loader and a 16 ft dump trailer. Two hours later the yard was clean. He got payed and I got 5 cords of wood
Nothing wrong there! I love it! Win win!
I like your attitude u say it like it is and no bs and don’t hold back. U are 100% about every u said in this video
Rock on!
OWBs have their place, but to me it's like driving a lifted, smoking, diesel truck: Dirty and inefficient. IMO it's a mistake to purchase a new OWB vs a catalytic wood stove centrally located in a house. For a guy with multiple outbuildings to heat, they are the perfect solution, but I gotta say: Living next to a smoldering boiler is disgusting and it gives wood burners a bad name. Not unlike driving behind a coal-rolling mall crawler.
100% agree with you on enjoying the process of heating with wood. I much prefer hours of splitting wood to 10 minutes on a riding mower or watching tv.
Hopefully my hot-take isn't too hostile- thanks for the upload!
No I get it. A boiler in a bad spot can be a nusinance so I understand that part but no worries no hostility taken. I love wood stoves and have nothing against them! Actually putting one in our home as a backup/ early season heater / ambiance next year.
I think some of the negative perception is based on people who don't know how to use them properly. Or I know that for me the amount of visible smoke has decreased greatly as I've learned to use the tool properly. The only time it smokes is when it has turned itself on after being off....If one has a good coal bed going and good mix of different wood, just as you'd have in any fire, then it's a few minutes of smoking and then it burns a great deal cleaner than a standard indoor stove. But I don't burn pallets or treated wood scraps. I do burn pine but mostly it's very dry and used as a fast burning wood to balance out oak, hickory, cherry.
@@genuineimpulse9134 true, I suspect a lot of owners burn unseasoned wood too. They are designed to damp down- that combined with wet firewood makes for a dirty burn
It is a lot of work but in my opinion it's absolutely worth it..I get all my wood from tree companies needing a place to dump wood...free to me and helps them out as well..great video!
Indeed! All that wood was dumped at my place and I have more coming tomorrow LOL
@@HomesteadJay That's awesome keep it coming
Nice to tell people how it is, we are on our second Central Boiler and this one is a down draft, it's a little more work to maintain but once you get used to the routine it's nice. And if you work for a living it will be enjoyment.
Indeed! Thanks for sharing!
I bought a Classic 5036 in 2007 and ran it for 10 years until propane prices went down! I now have the boiler for backup if fuel prices go crazy! Get the good pipe from the boiler to the house also! I love the outside boiler!
I jumped on the wood boiler band wagon last year. I didn't start a tree business but was already hobbying in that business so it also made sense to start heating with wood. I have 2011 E Classic 2400. Put a little TLC into it to get it back up and going, but it did great for the latter half of winter, and looking forward to using it this coming winter. I heard horror stories about these first gen EPA heaters but really the controls are simple and could be re-engineered if need with a simple PLC. The heat is awesome and the work is rewarding. Feed it morning and nite, and it pretty well takes care of itself!!
I personally love the work. keeps me active and that's important as I age. I also like running equipment, so it's very satisfying work. However, money savings is the reason I have one. With no access to natural gas and the cost of propane or electric to heat my place I'm saving somewhere around $3000 a year in the propane option and likely more in the electric option. 14 years in, and I'm about $30K to the good after taking out the cost of the equipment. So for me, it's worth it, and at 47 I'd buy another one if my current one failed.
Indeed its all investment! Ive found a way as well to pay off and or get paid to heat my home! All that wood in that pile was fruit of my labor while also getting paid ( its not about the money) but it sure does make it worth the effort!
It is amazing too how much propane is and how much people use to heat a givin heating season...
I have heated with a woodstove in the basement for 38 years. I hope to install an outdoor boiler before next winter.
Either way you love the wood heat clearly!
Thank you Jay for another wonderful video and i agree with this 1000%!!! One day when i get the chance to own a boiler ill be happy as a clam. I have a couple buddies asking me all the time if they can bring me their companies logs and i sadly have to turn them down for now. Hopefully soon i can get in touch with this one property owner and work something out with them!!!
Ahhh it must suck having to pass up wood but hope soon enough you’ll be rocking!
Love the video. I have an E Classic 1450 and she is a labor of love and wouldn’t change a thing.
Heck yes!
Two and a half years ago I didn’t know what a wood boiler was, until I bought my current home “and” discovered your channel. Because of your videos I now know what to do with my Central Boiler Classic. It is a lot of manly work but I love doing this. And yes, I have also learned to use a chainsaw. lol
Haha yes you have my friend! You are doing great with your classic!
Growing up on a farm it was feed the livestock every morning before school, every evening before supper.
I no longer have livestock, so it’s stoke the fire every morning before breakfast, and every evening after work.
It’s routine you get re-accustomed to every fall.
I figure on 2 hours of work cutting wood for every week I burn.
We've had our OWB for over 12 years. We eliminated the mess of our indoor wood burner, no dust, no bugs, no indoor smoke and no fear of a chimney fire in the house. We love how well the OWB heats our house. I consider gathering and processing wood as sweat equity. We just wouldn't want to heat any other way.
Couldnt agree more!
My family runs an old fashioned circular sawmill business. My father, grandfather, and I have all heated our wood boilers with scrap wood that is the byproduct of the lumber we make. It would just pile up if we didn’t burn it. We currently have a Polar G3 2009 model year, and it works great, but when it finally gives up I will look into Central. They seem a little more rugged.
You Got Me STOKED 💥🔥😜✌️🥳 Love Cutting Fire Wood. I’m wanting an outside boiler bad. Everyone around here loves the Hardy. I just saw one in the paper for 2500 to 4000. I have a double door Fisher inside stove, we go through about 15 to 20 a year and an old farmhouse. Just ran across your channel my phone must be listening to me. The wife and I were talking about it earlier. 😂 Carful out There in The Woods! It is Dangerous and. A Rush Falling Trees ✌️🍀😊
ya great video people don’t understand basically the country way of life and we take pride and what we do. Being in the bush there’s nothing like it whether you’re cutting wood hunting fishing whatever. When all the mess can stay outside and not be in the house. Sounds like a great idea. my neighbour has a wood boiler and I don’t think he’s ever looked back. Great way to get rid of unwanted wood, picking up it off the ground recycle reuse take all the ashes and put them in the garden really helps. Anyway great video keep going perfect way of doing life.
Yeah it is a nice "burn it all no waste" mentality! We have so much deadwood around here and wood is "easy" to get why not!
Just subscribed…how couldn’t I…way too funny!…I don’t even have one of these boilers…someday when I don’t have neighbors…these things are awesome, you can plumb them into many different buildings and what you didn’t rant about was…how much money you saved by not buying oil, propane, gas or electric to heat your home and shop or whatever you have…best not to talk too much about them to the lazy dummies…they potentially could get up and do something!….great video!
Welcome! Happy to have you! I try to make fun and entertaining stuff so glad you enjoyed!
We haven't purchased heating oil since 2004
If the power goes out, how does the water exchange with the indoor exchanger?
Generator will cover the heating circuits.
I’ve had my outdoor boiler for 24 years, I live in Northern Vt. I have not spent one penny for heat or hot water in those 24 years. Not only do I not buy my wood but I get paid to clear trees. My boiler burns 4ft lengths, I do not split any of it. I can burn hard wood and softwood, green or dry. People who say out door boilers are a waist of time are one of two things. Lazy and/or ignorant and have no clue what there talking about.
Thanks for preaching the truth! They are very useful tools for the right people!
Fixing my Toyota Tacoma gas tank as a tweaker heated a small pocket to red hot to melt 2 holes and steal my gas. So as I am waiting for my JB Weld to cure I am went down an Echo CS7310 rabbit hole and ended up here. Enjoying Vermonts proper rant. It’s nice to see other people are willing to bluntly truth smack tool beaters.
Have a cl4030 for 18 years has saved me 3 to 4 thousand in propane a year. Plus keeps me in shape cutting and hauling wood. It's a lifestyle for sure. But i enjoy cutting wood.
I cant fathom 4k a year for propane holy moly!
I have 2300 since 2008 still going strong
Let it rip!
On year two with my boiler (although burned with a wood stove insert for previous 5 years) I was bummed with the super warm October, kept having to push back the boiler start date. Exciting day when I finally lit that march in November.
Yeah I push it last minute but I am happy when I let it rip! Equally as happy when I shut it down HAHA
@@HomesteadJay o yea, come April I'm eyeing that weather forecast for a warm spell to shut her down.
I just found your channel and subscribed after watching this video. I've been interested in alternative heat sources for a long time now and these wood boilers seem to be a very cheap option ( after installing of course ) and I really like how many buildings it can heat. My friends wife came here from Lithuania. She told him that each one of the apartment blocks where all heated by a separate central boiler
It’s a great way to do multiple units indeed! Happy heating
Hi Gary from the UK great video very interesting and informative keep them coming,
I totally agree with you the best thing is people moaning about the heating boilers and refilling them and then they pay good money to go to a jim and exercise da don't they realise sorting out the boiler is better exercise and it's free and NOT boring either
Exactly! Win Win!
It's definitely my exercise plan and mental health therapy.
Love my stove. You have to like to cut wood and keep a fire. Some people ask how to start there own and I know there heart isn’t it, I always discourage it. Keeps you young. Great video.
Right on!
It's perfect for high energy individuals.ive owned a heatmor for 23 years.i completely agree 100%.
Love it!
hi there ,its a hands on heat . and kind of married to it in the heating season .i do have a glygal in mine , fuel oil hear is over 500 per gallon , takes 850 gallons to heat my house , when i made the boiler over 25 years ago ,i just heated my small green house , now i heat my 6000 house my shop my grudge, and more , i converted a 1,000,000 BTU coal boiler to wood ..i have streamed lined my wood presses with the aid equipment to a minimum.with my work effort over the last 50 years has afforded to buy more bigger better equipment . i will tell you whats funny you got it easy now , back when i made mine nobody knew what a boiler was , there was no computer with all the answers , pex was not even a thought . i could most likely tell you some boiler benefits you may never even thought of , looking forward to your next show . best to all , john
Hey John! You sir are a hard working man indeed! Thanks for chatting! Sounds like you got a sweet setup now!
I agree with you. Nothing better than going out to get a load of wood. Being in the forrest. I live for it. I appreciate your content. I love the smell Aldee burning. Keep up the good work.
Indeed my friend! Thanks for tuning in!
Any particular reason using water not glycol?
Cost. Glycol is expensive
No electricity? How does the hot water get pumped inside?
I meant electric heat*
@@HomesteadJay okay, gotta keep all you TH-camrs honest and on your toes 😉
think you for the truth you said it right i have had boiler for over 20 years keep up the good work
Indeed! Happy heating!
I have an outdoor wood boiler, and yes it’s a lot of work mostly gathering up the tons of firewood I burn annually and keeping the boiler clean. It’s not for everyone, especially someone that can’t physically do firewood like someone who is up in age and not as able to lift logs anymore. However, for someone who does have the strength and ability, the way I see it is doing firewood is good exercise, which is going to pay you back long term. Being too sedentary is bad for your health so get out there and stay active as long as you can.
Exactly! Get out in the bush and utilize what God has given us! Truly awesome stuff thank you for tuning in!
Paid for my classic after the fourth year and run around in my underwear at 74 degrees all winter long, lol.
HAHA one room we have in our house with the giant glass windows is 80 at high noon lol its great
This is my 2nd winter with my boiler. Last season took a little learning. This season, it's been flawless, and I haven't purchased a gallon of propane in 2 years!
Im glad you had such a quick turn around! Im still perfecting it but I have it almost mastered now! Turning the machine around was KEY! As you know it was facing the other way which was annoying!
@HomesteadJay The key to success with a gasification unit is good dry/seasoned wood.
Yes of course. I like the luxury of maybe not having all my wood perfectly seasoned obv downside is I use more@@J.R.Y.558
I'm not in your shoes, but agree completely. I also tire of those who say things like, "if everyone heated with wood, the world would run out of trees." Sigh.
I enjoyed your rant. 😀
Haha people dont understand the magnitude of the forest and the fuel thats out there in the bush waiting to be harvested!
Lotta work into burning woodstove too. Wouldn't have it any other way. Living room gets hot, kitchen is perfect, bedrooms are cool which I love. Gf sleeps under 2 ft of blankets but I use just one light one. Plus going out to cut is escape from the shit of daily life. Don't let the haters get to ya Jay. Only thing is the older ya get the harder it gets. Hard on shoulders and back but maybe that's from having dairy farm.
Yeah I know there will be a day when its a lot of work but for now I love the work and I think as long as you are smart with it and use the tools you got one can be out in the bush working the land hopefully for a lifetime!
Pine ain’t as terrible as people say. In Oregon you season Ponderosa at least 2 years and Lodgepole at least 3 years. Use a lot of kindling to get it super hot then have at it.
Exactly!
The recent price for one is $9600, just for the boiler. Then there is the associated piping and cost. It is getting into the geothermal heating price and this doesn’t include the cost and time for the wood.
Everything has their pros and cons. I run a tree service so it’s a no brainer to heat with wood for my case.
We'll never see this young buck in 30-40 years singing the same song.
Have been running my central boiler for 22 years no issues, house is warm costs are very cheap
That’s the best! Love hearing it!
That's always my complaint. Is that the maintenance of keeping the water at a certain temperature? And it seems so inefficient Burns too much wood. But some people do have them hooked up to their heat pump. That will help resurculate the water. I'm considering a wood furnace that's not in my basement. That's in a separate shed and use it similar to like a boiler
Either way however you shape it. Wood heat is awesome
@@HomesteadJay absolutely, best heat there is, I love spending time cutting, splitting and even stacking
How long will the morning fire last?
Depends on whatcha burn! Hard to give a timeline
Jay, Jay, Jay! Buddy, this isn’t the happy Jay that I know!!! I can sense your frustration but try to ignore the lazy ones or the one who point out the obvious and keep doing what you love Buddy! Anyone who is heating a building is either working somewhere to make the money to pay the bill but I like your way better.
Slainte,
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Hey Dan! No stress here just wanted to put it to bed. Now I can copy paste this URL to the haters LOL
I love how people always equate time and money. For the statement "Waste of Time" to mean anything, you have to show what the value was of using that time for something else and then compare the 2. I would say that a Sunday afternoon on the couch watching football, is a waste of time. Others would say, that same thing is why they go to work. So to each his own.
Exactly! I choose to use my time doing this. Win Win
My only beef with a outdoor wood boiler is it burns about twice as much wood as a indoor forced air wood furnace.
I love my wood heat and cutting wood but why would I want to do twice as much wood?
I've heard that before. Is it too little insulation around the wood boiler? Is it heat loss underground, along the PEX pipe? Is it a convention of burning unseasoned wood? Other?
@@PeterLawton It's all of the above lol.
It's just way more efficient to heat the air inside a house than to heat water outside and pump it in then use that hot water to heat up a register or floor.
These both have pros and cons indeed!
I think the people who would complain about the amount of work are probably too busy to deal with an outdoor boiler because they have to go workout. In that fitness sense, it's a wash. For me, it's a workout thing, a money-saving thing (I burn offcuts from my sawmill business), and it's a renewable heat source. I heat for the cost of electricity to run the pumps and inducer fan. Tough to beat that!
Seriously I agree my friend! Cant beat that indeed! Esp having a mill!
There’s no feeling like wood heat, when it’s cold and windy and you’re out there pulling in all that wood you know it’s for those cold nights where you don’t care about cranking up that thermostat and keeping your family warm without a worry.
Heck yeah!
The only thing I dont like about them from watching a couple friends with them is that even if you are just heating your house...no water or other buildings, they go through a ton of wood compared to a wood stove or wood furnaces.
You convinced me to go this route. I’ve never shied from hard work. I do however fear relying on an electric or gas company. Sounds like heating your home with wood will prolong your life if you ask me.
There is nothing wrong with wood heat and I wouldn’t change a thing. It’s an awesome form to heat your home. Good luck with it all!
It only work when it is -25 below with a 35 MPH North wind during a big snow storm, other wise it is just a everyday job
Great video
Thats right larry
It doesn’t use electricity? Thought circulating pumps were needed?
I meant electric heat in a home. I mis spoke sorry
@@HomesteadJay no worries. I lose power all the time which is why I like my wood stove. Figured maybe someone had made a heat powered water moving system. Cheers!
Ur wood stacks look great!
Thank you!!
Goid morning Jay we have a 6048 we heat our house an garage an pole barn that has my shop in there. We started selling wood last year which has increased alot from from year
That’s awesome! It’s amazing when you get to a point where you can sell wood off. I never thought I’d be there a few years ago and now it’s wild! Keep on heating!
The first initial investment is a lot, but after that other than the work it's free heat. Awesome way to heat, but you can't be a lazy person.
This is true!
Total waste of time!! NOT!!!! It’s the best time. I always can’t wait to wake up and go check on my baby. lol correct statement. Definitely married to it. But well worth it.
Hahah married to it indeed you are lol you have your business running off yours LOL
Enduring Winter in the more Northern Climates and higher elevations is generally much more challenging than Winter is in southern climates.
Yes indeed!
It’s a lot of work for a lazy man. Guys like us enjoy staying off the couch. Good for you brother
Indeed it is! Its rewarding work for sure!
Jay, i feel the same way you do my friends think i am crszy but once you are set up it us not thst bad. You got to spend a little money to save some money and the feeling when i walk in my house us well worth it. Take care my friend
Yes indeed! A nice warm house is a great feeling indeed!
What state do you live in?
Beautiful New Hampshire!
@@HomesteadJay I have a good friend living in Colebrook. We both grew up in CT. I moved to rural MN 1 1/2 yrs ago because New England is so much more expensive. Minneapolis is, of course, nuts. But that is 3 hrs away.
Good smackdown. My offset plan is owning a home sawmill that actually makes me $ and saves me $ for own use lumber. Simply cutting wood with nice machines doing the heavy lifting. Investment and Profit, directly from your effort. That is 'merica
Merica!
I love watching the channel keep up the good work my friend don't let it get you down
Oh im not down by any strech! I love what im doing. No complaints!
I have a 6048 and the way I look at it is all the money it saves me on heating oil I can invest some of it into nice things to make my job of cutting wood easier and at the end of the day I still have something to sell anyone who burns gas, oil or electricity just watches it go up in smoke at the end of the month
Hello Homestead Jay:
You forgot to mention that they are the most inefficient form of heating with burning wood.
Depends on the situation. You can heat multiple buildings and hot water with one source of energy. Try doing that with 1 other form of energy it would be tricky
If you enjoy what your doing it's not work. I enjoy cutting firewood and burning it. Keep up the great videos
Thats it my friend! Summed up perfectly!
One way or the other you're going to have to work somewhere to pay to heat your house. You can choose to be a slave for someone else and use part of your pay to pay other people to heat your house or you can own that time yourself and heat your home on your terms. I like heating with wood because that is my time, it belongs to me and no one else. It's not for everyone thats for sure.
Exactly! My time! My choice! I reap what I sow!
How long does it take fire wood sellers to make $7,000.00?
Sfter the fuel and other costs involved ?
One seaso ? Two at most ?
Picture if you will,
Paying off a Geo thermal heat / cooling system with a firewood business ,
Even if it took three years.
Wood boilers, they are GREAT for healthy people with nothing to do twice a day
Years ago i was told that if we managed our forests like they do in Germany every American home could be heated with wood and have great forests!
I betcha your onto something there. I know for certain I drive around constantly and see woods /people properties with wasted wood sitting everywhere. I think there’s leaps and bounds of firewood available out there but a lot of it ends up wasted or rotted
I use every twig of every tree that I either cut here or bring home with my tree service. I hate wasting such a great resource
The work is the fun part!!! 💪
1.5 hour collect/cut, another 1.5 hour spread over a few days to maintain the fire. So 3 hours for 3ish days. Seems easier and cheaper to use electricy, but this is more interesting.
You are absolutely right, it does take a bit of time. But the warmth and the process make it worth it to me! The more you do it the more efficient you get. I can spend a 10 hour day working in my wood yard and get over a month of heat processed so it’s all how you look at it
Well put and congrats on the income and cost savings.
They are definitely wood gooblers , I've used both and a central located woodstove inside the home is way more efficient......yes it's dirty and yes you needs to clean your chimney but it eats way less wood.
Depends on the house. If you can heat a home with wood stove then do it. Wood boiler are designed for larger homes or multiple buildings
Slaving away at a job to buy propane is work too.
Truth!
Wether it's alot of work or not look at the money your saving on heating and hot water no 300 + dollar a month heating bills no cringe if you like to keep it warm as you want or worring about taking long showers or filling the garden tub with scalding water as many times as you want.
Heck iv seen guys run them all year to save on energy cost for hot water...
Yeah exactly my friend! Wise words spoken!
@@HomesteadJay 👍
The only people saying they’re a waste of time are lazy or overvalue their time.
Indeed!
When I was a little boy my dad said that how much he showed them or read the book to people they still didn't get it the meaning is they don't care
Indeed!
Boy that looks like a lot of work 😂
:)
Nothing wrong at all with a wood broiler. I wish I could afford one I’d have it plus a wood cook stove because I like it
Indeed! Im putting a wood stove in the house next year. Dont "need it" but I want that secondary backup heat source ( no electricity needed for that) more of a emergency contingency plan lol
@@HomesteadJay absolutely plus one I can cook on like my grandma use to do
I may get one that has the hot pad on top. Well see. I like the side load wood stoves and there are million stoves out there to choose from lol
@@HomesteadJay it is more work I get it, but a good day of physical labor I feel so much better then the days I sit at the desk.
I love the idea of getting a wood stove. But natural gas is so cheap for me to run. It will never pay off.
It was worth it when they first came out and were only $4500 and no epa bullcrap
I will fight tooth and nail to replace this with another classic when the time comes
@@HomesteadJay yes they'll have to kill me to get my stove
Can't wait to see the new video's now 'winter's coming' ;)
Very soon!
The big plus - your wood burning it outside away from house your insurance shouldn’t increase
Insurance is key having the wood away from the home. Different than wood stove
Like you say it's not for everybody this separates the men from the boys this is what life is about hard work and anymore how many people want to get up and go to work I love it and yes it does involve hard work and i would not trade it for anything
Same here! I love the 6 month work load! Im on track to sit back and do nothing (which I wont) when the boiler is off since I have a good amount of wood stocked up already!
Some of us understand, I call it throttle therapy to get out and run my saw when I can
Indeed! I used to ride moto and motorcycles and that was therapy but I find this much more enjoyable!
@@HomesteadJay same enjoyment when you let the 2stroke sing. Let those chips fly buddy