Understand Socialism, Communism, Fascism, & Nazism in 15 Minutes (Part II)
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- What's the difference between a socialist, a communist, a fascist, and a Nazi? Are fascists racist? We explain the basics of all four, moving now to fascism and Nazism. What do they mean and what did they want? Can you trust what you know about them?
After this video, you'll be able to understand how these two political movements and philosophies are different and hopefully understand what people mean when they call someone a "fascist" or "Nazi." We'll also ask how different the four systems are in the real world. (Part I is here - • Understand Socialism, ... )
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To anyone who says, "(insert ideology) hasn't been done correctly.", you are only just telling yourself that "If I had power, I would do it right.".
- Jordan Peterson
But I would do it better lol
If that person is thinking “if I had the power” than that person’s ideologies are about facism and dictatorships, not communism or socialism. Peterson has great things to say but sometimes has no idea what he’s talking about.
@@Th3StuffShow i think its all good intention until the part where you already got to power and these few people wont listen to you. Then the gulags start
It's not about power, All poltical people are controlled. To make a change you must make a cooperation with people, or make a corporation of some kind. Fight money with money, But it's too late now.
Solid video with just the right amount of humour. Well done.
Ehm...fascism can be futurist and not only traditionalism.
That's a valid point. I can imagine a futurist fascism, and certainly the fascists and Nazis used a lot of science and scientific talk. I think the reason it's usually defined as traditionalist is because the new (like science and technology) is being used to reclaim national glory.
@@rakshithsridharan5078 ok champ
@And Another Thing, with Dave No no and no
Tarli Sarli correct fascists focus on a common goal
@@rakshithsridharan5078 based
If someone wants to discuss any of those; I look them all up first, so I'm sure I have them correct. I have however noted the Merriam-Webster's Online Dictionary actually changes definitions depending on what's popular & what's not; they do that often. Which is not a legitimate reason for changing a definition.
Assuming that popularity equals increased useage, as an English PhD guy, I'd say that's exactly why dictionary's change definitions.
@@thatinternetdude1392 no
@@radthadd No it assuredly is. There was a debate between a group called prescriptivists and descriptivist from say 1800 to around the 1960s. Prescriptivists believe English teachers, dictionary makers etc. should prescribe rules that govern how language should be used. Descriptivists believe in teaching how a language is actually used. Any linguist will tell you language changes all the time. Prescriptivists haven't completely gone away, but easily descriptivists are the far more influential group. So, I assure you it is commonly believed by experts that the meaning of words do change in conjunction with their useage. If this wasn't the case, we'd be talking in old english right now, afterall.
I feel frustrated with this as well, to me the definition of something is important, everybody is now racist or a nazi, but do they really believe in racial superiority? Do they hold the same ideas on say a racially pure culture and eradication of those they believe are physically and mentally unfit?
And the confusion of outcomes being so similar, while all these regimes have high loss in life, political, racial and religious persecution it becomes hard to see the differences in the loss of individual rights and expression and actually understand the way they are different because of overlapping outcomes and ideology. And like he stated vague language used.
@@zaphael7238 I feel like the words are a bit watered down, which I’m against (fuck Hitler). But if you’re confused, I’m assuming you’re confused when people just go out and say “oh Donald Trump is a Nazi-Fascist” or “Bernie sanders is a complete socialist moron”, correct? If so, I think it’s mostly just people using it as an insult, and they don’t entirely mean what they say, they just want to throw a jab in at the other party and slander their leaders. As somebody who REALLY dislikes Trump, I can see why he and his followers are commonly compared to fascists; however, I can also admit that they are not entirely fascist. The comparison of how fascist a lot of Republicans are is up in the air for everyone to discuss, but blatantly calling them fascist altogether is a bit extreme. So I say to you, do not let the media and social media confuse you to the true definitions of a term. As the wise individual above us said, definitions do change over time, which in return explains why terms like “nazi” and “fascist” have been watered down from their true, horrendous meaning.
Want to know the difference between socialism and Nazism? Replace the word class with race. The Nazi party took all business for those with white privilege (it was called Jewish privilege back then). Then they gave them to party members and all their mates and people who would do what they told them to do. It was socialism with a focus on race instead of class. Anyone else noticed we have a form of socialism obsessed with race struggle?
I think the only two systems is one that recognises the individual and one that groups people into categories. It's not so black and white that it's either one or the other. I believe we need a strong bias towards the individual to make ourselves resourceful, productive and efficient. With some, though proportionally less, amount of emphasis on group identity to give us some purposes in life. There is way too much emphasis on racial identity (group identity). This will only divide us further. The whole point of group identity is to unite a people. But if these people are living in the same country then there is a problem. I think the more multicultural a society gets the less it can focus on group identity, especially one that focuses on race. The thing that will unite groups of different racial backgrounds would be civic nationalism. Communism or facism take your pick they all focus on the individual is unimportant to the point of not thinking about yourself anymore. Total chaos in multicultural countries in my opinion. Socialism has even less chance to work in these types of societies.
Well the favored race In fascism is supposed to own private property. So you can’t create fascism just by substituting race for class.
I appreciate the non-bias way you ask for your audience to draw conclusions
Thanks!
It's not non bias
It is bias, if you look at Nazi Germany poor people weren't killed or anything, social Darwinism is taken out of context here, Hitler aligned more with Schopenhauer and Nietzsche philosophy.
I feel that Fascism at it's core is just about securing the existence of a nation and it's people. The only thing that separates different kinds of fascism (and Nazism) are what classifies someone as a member of the nation's people, and how that version of the ideology goes securing the people and the nation.
And there is nothing wrong with that.
Jack Russell fascism is the opposite of socialism.
Jack Russell th-cam.com/video/n_pq579ilKY/w-d-xo.html
Jack Russell ya. “Ok.”
I just have a degree in history.
But your revisionist “80 year old debunked German propaganda - which is literally fascism- and your Red Pill cucked You Tune video “Education” is Whats “real.” 🙄
As if.
You know who talks they way you do?
Fascists.
They ALWAYS use violence to achieve their goals.
I feel like the fascists we actually got were only racist because almost everyone was racist at the time. I don't feel like that's intrinsic to fascism as an ideology the way it is with Nazism. I mean, segregation was still a thing in the liberal democratic United States at the time.
Italian fascism and fascism itself was never racist.
There was no legislative material against race mixing and no social shame for being Ethiopian in italy.
Mussolini didn't care about race like hitler did.
Ra6m back in the days was created for the protection of differences. Nzism destroys other differences.
When I heard end to child labor, I wondered how the government would be able to enforce that. Then I realized they meant child workers.
i mean.....duh?
@@baronwalker2212 lol i don’t remember where my head was at when i made this comment but i suspect i was talking ab labor during childbirth
@@Lena-rk3ph that’s fair, was a LONG time ago haha, how do you feel about it now? Still confused about the word terms or does it make sense
@@Lena-rk3ph I like it. It was funny. You had to explain it, which is never a great thing with jokes, but I like it.
@@Lena-rk3ph lmao
Best video on TH-cam which actually elaborate clear cut differences among them.
Arsalan Sheikh
Yep, life is black and white :\
@@ameliaroque3854 black and white, mean no ambiguity or something retro ? :p
What's this video got messed up is that many of these traits aren't unique to Fascism, you can find them in Communism, Socialism or Capitalism as well. What it needs to improve is to understand what's really unique about each of them. Focus on the difference is to distinguish them all.
A Nazi is just a racist tankie
Communism and socalism were synonyms until communism was failing in the USSR and the state claimed that they were in socalism and the goal was communism. The differences are more in individual instances. The Nazis centered around race. Italians national identity. USSR liked class and China was kinda a new man/society thing.
And you can find them in many modern countries. It just reflects the fact that labeling thing with just one tag is oversimplifying.
You're right, but i would also point out, what you call capitalism is actually cronyism. What we have now is nothing close to free market open competition capitalism.
@@eliteaesthetics5170 only free market is the black market.
Prussia was a city-state founded by the Order of Teutonic Knights. It is the foundation of the modern nation that would most accurately be called "United Germany". Germany is one of the younger nations on Earth, America is 100 years older than Germany. Prussia was the driving force behind the uniting of city states that is today called Germany. Prussia/United Germany is the political environment that produced Karl Marx and communism. Prussia and "United Germany" was the birthplace of communism, and the German Reich (which most people incorrectly call "Nazi Germany”) was a highly nationalist communist state. Although the Soviet Union emerged first, the German Reich was in many ways "true communism" because that political system had emerged from the original communist ideology that had emerged as the politics of "United Germany".
This is history that is intentionally suppressed these days because American “educators” want to advance the anti-American propaganda that the German Reich was "right wing". In reality, what is today called the "right" refers those who trace their political heritage to the republics of Greece, Rome, and the United States. What is today called the "left" refers to those who trace their political heritage to communism... the Soviet Union, "United Germany"/German Reich, and modern China. The only other basic form of government known to man, other than a republic (“right”) or communism (“left”), is some type of king.
This is the reason that Prussian and early German history are so confusing too people, because American “educators” intentionally teach lies about this aspect of history because they desperately want to brainwash their students into believing that Nazi Germany was "right wing". In reality, there has NEVER been a "fascist republic" or any type of "right wing evil empire". Such a thing has NEVER EXISTED!!! All such nations in modern history have been communist, or "left wing". What is taught of this history in schools is pure anti-American propaganda and is the source of confusion regarding Prussia... the birthplace of communism (“the left”)!
The whole reason that the terms "right" and "left" are used is to obscure the true nature of their origins and who each side really represents. Almost nobody would support "communism", and the communists have known this for over 100 years. They never call communism by that name. They use other names for it... "socialism", "progressive", or the very nebulous "left v right". There have only ever been three basic forms of government known to humanity. Some type of king, a republic (“right"), or communism (“left”). This is what the communists desperately don't want you to know.
So the Third Reich was communist and everything else is American propaganda? You say a lot of things in here which just makes no sense and offer no evidence for anything you state. I've seen these arguments before, mainly from Neo Nazis and holocaust deniers. You say that left and right are fomented from Republics and Communism again is inaccurate. The origins are from French revolution but only came into common use to describe the 2 sides in the Spanish civil war, of which the right was specifically used to describe Franco and his German Allies. So the word right wing was made popular by the Fascist side of the civil war, not used later to describe Germany. The rest of your post is just conspiracy theory guff.
@Reuben Thomasson Yes, it is a REPUBLIC... Greece, Rome, and the United States. Not a "left wing" hell hole like Lenin, Hitler, Stalin, Mao, and the Traitor Obama!
@Reuben Thomasson "Right Wing" means the republics of Greece, Rome, and the US. The "Left" are and always have been the only "fascists" You are a brainwashed useful idiot Obamite traitor. You have been brainwashed to believe the exact opposite of the truth about pretty much everything. You don't have ANY IDEA what you are talking about, you are a babbling moron.
@zzoia net He was German, the was no nation called "Jew". I am the joke? Wow! He was German, immersed in the politics of "United Germany". Karl Marx was writing about the environment he was raised in, the communism of "United Germany". Welcome back to reality!
@zzoia net No, the Nazi's were communists. The Germans invented communism. They were "Left Wing". "Right Wing" refers to the REPUBLICS of Greece, Rome, and the United States. There has NEVER, in ALL OF RECORDED HISTORY, EVER been any such thing as "an evil right wing empire". SUCH A THING HAS ***NEVER*** existed in ALL OF HISTORY, EVER! Welcome back to reality, ignorant brainwashed sheep.
Understanding political economic ideologies!
1- Capitalism
A system where there is private ownership of business, not regulated by governments, there is class difference as the owner can make profit and give workers their allocated wages. During economic breakdown unemployment is a problem as the state wasn’t regulating the workers. Capitalism promotes competition which is a source to boost economy.
2- Socialism
A system where the government owns most of business and services (nationalisation) ; the people elect their ruler by democratic elections to regulate the service and distribute the money to people, but there is concession for private ownership but they come under conditions of high taxation. The government is responsible for the employment of people and the individual are paid according to the contributions made. The revenue generated by state is given for the welfare of people like free healthcare and education system etc. Basic rights like freedom of religion and expression are promised.
3- communism
A system where the people own most of the services, it’s a classless society where everyone is paid equally regardless of contributions made, the central government gives people the necessity, only the ones they need. This leads to corruption by the ruling power, which is why Orwell was against it. There is no system of democratic elections likewise no freedom of religion and expression.
4- fascism
It is defined as a government structure where one dictator has complete control of the entire country, state, or territory. Anyone who opposes this dictator is suppressed and individual rights are often oppressed. A fascist government might also be called totalitarian. This ideology leads to nationalism where people might opt for ethnic cleansing of minorities like in India. However, There is concession for ownership of private property like businesses as long as they are beneficial to the state.
Interesting entertaining and answered questions? What's your game friend? Ty well done.
Very well put. Thank you!
Fascism is actually a well defined ideology. Some people describe it as corporatism. It's usually far right but not necessarily, they can be centrist. But definitively anti left wing. They have to be nationalist, united against some enemy or other or outsider, put priority on the state vs the individual, led by an authoritarian strong man, obsessed with national security, promote a return to (real or imagined) glory of the past when things were better.
Mussolini himself said Fascism would be better called "Corporatism."
And yes, they are polar opposites of Leftists.
What is wrong with that? Although, it is not far right and ANYTHING is better than left wing loonies who support child mutilation, pedophilia and trans rights over women's rights.
Really there was ONLY one fascist country, Italy... pinning fascism on other countries is a stretch
I follow fascism and yep your right Italy was the only fascist country.I been a fascist since August of 2020. Funnily enough I come from the United States of America.
@Roniixx I'd say, mainly in foreign policy. Spain was sort of isolationist, although it had some foreign intervention to repay its debt to Germany and Italy.
@Roniixx A regime has a range of ideologies. It's very difficult to state the differences because these regimes only lasted with the dictator and were all in the same era, thus the differences were mostly traits of personality. For example, nobody says that Spain was Fascist, rather it was Franquism. Same with Portugal being Salazarism.
Take the USSR, being communist. But it wasn't ruled the same way under Stalin compared to Khrushchev. Or China under Mao compared to Deng Xiaoping.
Since the Dictator rules supreme, his personality will affect greatly the state policy.
Thank you, keep up the good work sir!
Fascism is generally considered the totalitarian right while Communism is generally considered the totalitarian left. Although, the Communist thing is a bit complicated because Marx’s concept of communism trends anarchic via the withering of the state. In the end, you and Orwell are right, these labels are nebulous and meaningless outside the contexts in which they are used. It’s kind of like how liberal means progressive social Democrat in the US, while it means globalist capitalist in most other places.
Social-liberalism 🌹
Let me attempt to de-fuzz your conceptual mohair jumper for you.
Socialism is an umbrella term for a desire to centralise and control the economy, ostensibly for the good of the people. Socialism is always controlling and redistributive to a greater or lesser degree.
Communism, Maoism, Stalinism, Nazism and Fascism are all forms of socialism.
Nationalism is another umbrella term that intersects with socialism, as does our third umbrella term - racism. The various socialist ideologies are combinations of all three umbrella terms in varying amounts.
Capitalism lies outside this umbrella stand. Socialism in all its forms, stands in idealistic opposition to capitalism, the mighty river (one might say, Amazon) that will, and must flow inexorably down to the sea. By Capitalism I really mean trade - not quite synonyms but good enough for now.
Btw, Hitler was a great big dumb, redistributive socialist, and do not listen to any lying, leftie, milksop that tells you otherwise.
Here's your jumper back - no need to thank me 😊
Very informative. Mildly entertaining.
Daniel S.
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Excellent. Thank you
Mussolini never had full power over italy, he had a constitution and a council that was watching over what he does. So fascism doesnt need to be total authoratarianism.
quick scoper theres many different types of fascism. sourcebooks.fordham.edu/mod/mussolini-fascism.asp
5:44 Most Americans shown this list with no context would agree with the vast majority of it
its really weird to see the list
thats because the difference between fascist and capitalist isnt that great, there are a lot of good points to fascisim but also some really bad points that capitalism does a good job of hiding in plain sight
Nazism is still considered some of facism, become it promotes the national majority (race/culture), though is not purely Facism because facist dictatorships consider all people within a nation/society to be an integral part of the state who supported the nation and her interests.
It is pure fascism. It removes undesirables so that only a homogeneous society remains.
And fascist Italy wasn't antisemetic. And had SOME economic freedoms.
See I’ve found your video after reading works by Oswald Mosley. He’s been deemed a fascist, yet in many of his works one of his main points were taking Britain into isolation as he didn’t want to lose more people to war. So that conflicts with your’s and many others summary of fascism. Could someone enlighten me?
I suppose like most political ideologies, there are a variety of ideal versions that are conceived, and then there are the ways they have actually functioned when they were put into place in the real world, which are more limited. Fascism in practice has been heavy on violence, military, war. Just as some ideal versions of theoretical communism sound great but in practice they have never met the ideals of those who came up with the original ideas and have often deviated in big ways.
Because this dude isn't 100% correct. If you really start doing some research you'll find out that a lot of fascist groups were against fighting stupid wars. Even AH didn't want war with the west. He only wanted to destroy bolshevism because he thought if he didn't it would doom Europe. If you want to I will share my sources and further explain why fascism and NS isn't about "conquest" at all. I will if you're interested explain NS economics and actual racial policy. And one of the most interesting aspects: what actually was their problem with the J3W5.
A lot people don't know political science. And they should.
and I should get to know you
EpsteinsPlasticSurgeon racist.
where is the next video promissed at the tail end of this one?
Konrad Heiden is linked to the phrase Nazi against the National Socialists and was used as a derogatory coming from the slang of the word Ignatz.
The NSDAP never adopted the name.
Correct.
Thank you, this is good.
Authoritarianism by any political faction is bad.
Animateeducate... I am not looking for a 3 mike thread here but a big fight of opinion brought me here to think how I could better argue this. People are at each other about Nazis. May I ask you...what wing would you consider the Nazis came from and became? Right or Left? Thank you
From all the reading I've done, I think people tend to assign Nazis and fascists to the right-wing because they were big on family, protecting traditional culture (or at least their weird versions of traditional German culture), and the military. I think that makes sense, but the Nazis were big on borrowing ideas and themes from anybody they could, as long as they were popular. They definitely stole a bunch of economic ideas from the German socialists and communists.
Plus, I think it's easy to forget that today's left and right, aren't entirely the same as they were in the 20s, 30s, and 40s, and that the U.S. and Germany have very different histories. So you're never going to be able to match the two exactly. I think people tend to argue about this as a way of scoring points against ideas they don't like, rather than to try and understand the Nazis better.
Thank you for your insight and reply.
Nazism, comes from fascism, fascism is not right. Or left
@@dustingant885 correct, when people try to put it on the left and right spectrum you can already tell they don't understand shit about third position philosophy.
honestly tho, i loved your brittish accent :DDD
Jolly good.
Is dat reallay Whuh you phink about it ?!
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Actually, mr. Kamall it's right, national socialism was socialism, but national, national in the concept that Hitler had of that word, Hitler undertood nationality as race (ethnicity) that's why he developed this speech of the aryan race and so on.
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Years ago I lived in what was the People's Republic of Poland, the Estonian Soviet Socialist Republic. and the Socialist Republic of Yugoslavia As a result of my exposure experiences and my parents who also saw experienced both Communism and Nazism. I have also extensive interviewed them and others who lived under both Nazism and Communism and can say that Communism, Nazism, Fascism are all to a degree related and similar and then not so similar. The one thing is they are all Socialist be it International or National Socialist. Just like there are Multiable species and subspecies of Rattlesnakes they all are Rattlesnakes yet are somewhat different so to is it with Socialism in all it's forms-types.
Fascism is basically inverse socialism. While socialism promotes people based on class over nationality, fascism promotes people based on nationality. Nazism is basically to fascism what communism is to socialism with an even greater focus on certain national and genetic identity. You could conceivably have a sort of “multicultural fascism” where multiculturalism becomes the promoted identity and the government bends over backwards to make sure everything is diverse the way the nazis or Mussolini did to Germanize/ italianize everything, so it does not have to just be based on race.
Makes sense. Mussolini was a die-hard socialist as a teenager/young adult. The socialist dogma was well-established in him.
Facisms has always confused me because of those called fascist at various times and the only thing I can conclude, whatever is the opposition of someone's political opinion is fascist. Looking into Nazi and Italian fascist political policies, you might as well call them versions of communism.
Nope, this is insanely wrong.
Communism is a Stateless, Moneyless, Classless society.
Mussolini himself said Fascism would be better called "Corporatism."
Commies hate Corporations and The State.
Fascists love the State so much, they want to force a National Identity onto everyone.
The ideologies are literally polar opposites. You clearly need more than a 15 minute TH-cam education.
5:43 this seems quite nice.
Because it is, watch Europa the last battle. It also deals quite well with NS economics.
Fascism, socialism, Nazism and communism are all very similar ideologies.
"We defeated the wrong enemy"
-General Patton
Hah! if you read Patton's diary's you'll find him a simple political thinker and a racist prick.
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@@nerome619 everyone is racist. it's human nature.
@@freethinker76 tis the Truth, people will discriminate against anything that lacks familiarity,for the most irrational of reasons...but that particular disregard of logic is the reason we are the last surving species of hominids.
@@nerome619 and a legendary hero,or where you to preoccupied trying to virtue signal to get that far?.... commie
Given the definition here, there is a very strong argument to be made that current Russian government with Putin as the unquestionable leader has a strong fit with fascism . Nearly every defining point for fascism aligns with current Russia
With fascism you didn’t seem to mention a view of social relations as naturally hierarchical based upon superiority of a given “in” group and demonizing official “out” groups. You discussed in the context of the Nazi’s but not fascists writ large. Fascism is a reaction to Modernity, and more specifically liberalism and socialism. Hence it’s reactionary.
Fascism is a socialistic ideology but it rejects internationalism.
No that's not what reactionary means. A reactionary is someone who wants to return to pre modern societys. That means pre industrial and pre capitalist societies.
Racial superiority and social didn't exist in the context of a discriminatory basis. Races weren't thrown out, poor people weren't thrown out, Fascism had marxist economics, Nazism didn't have marxist economics and was racist, although Nazism also didn't throw out poor or middle class people.
Applied reading comprehension is essential.
@@jhngrg8132 That's not what reactionary means.
You don't get to just make up bullshit and pretend it's true.
These words have existed for well over a century.
Fascists are definitely reactionaries.
"Vote for me and i'll set you free"
8:18 Common
I know this is nit-picking, but seeing we are trying to be accurate and fix the mistakes of the first video from some years back, the Pope doesn't live in Italy, he lives in Vatican City which is the smallest country in the world totally enclaved within Italy.
When is the modern version of facism coming back video going to be released? Another one on modern socialism (and explaining how far apart the two are now...) would be great!
The enthusiasm is definitely appreciated. I've been working on a bunch of volunteer things lately, which has eaten up time for this project, though I enjoy doing it. I do hope to produce at least a couple of videos this year.
The modern version of fascism and socialism are the same thing. Almost all socialist are fascists now. Very few socialist argue for the public ownership of the means of production. They all are perfectly happy with the silicone vally robber barons running industry so long as they remain loyal party members. When the EU says jump Facebook and Google say "how high?"
Modern socialists dont want public ownership of the means of prodution. Its too much work to manage it. Instead the encourage monopolization by loyal like minded people like Zuckerbrug, Bezos etc. and as long as they stay in line they are allowed to run their monopolies as they see fit.
Thats fascism.
IskurBlast wtf no
That is not an answer. I'm sure you know nothing about fascism. All you know is that the Nazis were racists and can therefor never be socialists.
Did it occur to you that there is such a thing as socialism for us but not for you?
But even then Nazis are an offshoot of fascism. True fascism is what Mussolini did in Italy. Most and I mean most modern leftists want an economic model almost identical to Fascist Italy. The state does not own the means of production. A select group of industrialists who are also loyal party members are allowed to almost monopolize entire sectors of the economy. They are allowed to run industry as they see fit so long a they do what the party says when the party says.
That is fascism and that is what most modern leftists support.
IskurBlast the agrument of who is fascist or not is stupid because fascism is not democrat or Republican because there is more to the world then the modern political left or right scale. Fascism is against degeneracy and is super nationalist and take the goods of both capitalism and socialism but not Bolshevik socialism because that is Communism and also last time I remembered that liberals are anti-nationalism and don't want a authoritarian government. I do know what fascism is and Nazism is because I am a National socialist. How about you stop listening to those Jews like Ben Shapiro and Milo and actually take advice from actual fascists and people who actually know about the movement and don't just say the other side of the Democratic system is fascist because they want to further their agendas
I LOVED the Fuzzy Buckets!! Although their second and third albums were not as good as their first.
Shame about their drummer too ... that guy was hilarious.
So there is no difference between Fascists & Communist...
Am I the only one who is noticing a pattern with the words that end with "ism"?
Hi, i was wondering what the difference between fascism and commuism is?
intent. if referring to state communism, both tend to be very similar as authoritarianism is a very dominating trait.
Trevor Selbee Lets put its this way. It was the Communists who actually ended the right wing fascist Nazis.
The map of Europe used in the end is incorrect as it uses SLOVENIAN flag for the territory of SLOVAKIA. -.-
Good to know. Thank you.
The Communists and Nazis very much agreed on jews.
I didn't expect this going in at all and I had to watch it three times just to make sure. But this guy just almost explained the present day Democrat Party of the United States to a T.
As somebody who was a Democrat is entire life until about 2 years ago this was a shocking revelation.
Once you've voted away your rights, it would not matter what flag they fly .
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Very similar to each other and it sucks
I now because i was born in Cuba and lived in Spain for a little while and all i can say is i love the great U.S.A. and there is nothing like it. G-d bless it. Freedom of religion I'm Jewish by the way, and the right to protect your family with the 2nd
freedom from religion is what america is supposed to be about. if you really believe in the constitution then you can protect your family with a musket...not an AR war weapon. the great USA is getting closer to fascism every day thanks to trumps 'love affair' with nazi's...but then again, in certain parts of the USA you probably shouldn't boast about being jewish. in the south those are 'fightin words'.
Mussolini coined the term, therefore, Mussolini's Italy and Blackshirts WERE Fascists.
Hitler, Stalin, Mao, and Imperial Japan were ALSO Fascists, not just Italians!
Good work sir
The thing they all had in common is, they were all socialists. Even the lists of there goals were written slightly different but they were the same thing. The lists for the Nazis is practically the Labour party manifesto. There were over 10,000 Jewish members of the Italian Fascist party. They were not anti-Semitic but the Marxists and Nazis were
The idea that tie all those ideologies togheter, is that every one of them claim that some "group" has the monopoly of wealth and power, and that their ideology is the solution to end that monopoly...wich is similar to the bible story of the snake telling the woman that god is witholding godhood to her, knowing what is good and bad ...
you made an error in describing social darwinism - you referred to the late 1900s but you obviously meant late 19th century or late 1800s
So what you're saying is Hitler was a socialist, correct?
He isn't necessarily saying that, from what I can see
National socialist, amazing how many with an agenda miss out the nationalist part especially as nationalism is the dangerous part.
Karl Marx's writings had a lot of influence all over Europe.
Can you explain social fascism?
It's an interesting idea, and I may one day make a video explaining that. Though I think fewer ordinary people will be able to follow something that is on a more specialized piece of fascism. Plus, these videos aren't my favorite to do, as they bring out a lot of crazy comments.
animateeducate your video is weak. Let’s get that straight right now. Sub par. On a rating scale of 1-10 it’s a 3.
It seems like your socialism and communism video focused a lot more on the theoretical, where as this is based more on what was said and done by these countries.
When you say that Fascism believed in expansion, thats actually not true. Its true of what actually happened in history, but it directly contradicts what Musslini wrote in the Doctrine of Fascism.
The Doctrine of Fascism claims that the idea of Fascism is an "Imperial Spirit" and they define "Imperial" as "either directly or indirectly the leader of nations", and furthermore they say they believe the "Imperial Spirit" is attainable without having to conquer a single piece of land.
When talking about violence and warfare, Mussolini said he believed it to be a reality of history and not something that should be frowned upon but something that people should be proud of, just like in ancient Rome. He didn't literally mean that going to war was always good, or that a state of constant warfare is good.
The similarities between National Socialism (Nazi is actually a slur for National Socialist not an abbreviation) and Italian Fascism are mostly the economics and the inner workings of the countries. The only real difference is that Hitler didn't answer to anyone and had complete control of Germany where as Mussolini still had the King above him, and the fact that the Nazi's focused on race and the jewish question. Its a little unfair the way you represent Italian Fascism in this video by saying they were also racist and killed people, you're implying a lot of things and skipping over the history. Musslini was originally opposed to biological racism and didn't believe it existed, he later read Julius Evola's "Doctrine of Race" or "Sintesi di Dottrina della Razza" which broke down the races into 3 categories; race of the body, race of the soul, race of the spirit. He claimed that the race of the body (biological race) was the least important. Mussolini met with Evola and congratulated him and agreed with him. It wasnt until much later when the Nazi's started to influence Italy that they began adopting anti-semitism and racism.
The actual philosophy of fascism has nothing to do with biological race, or killing, or discrimination, or anything of that sort. Its actually a very sound and practical political theory, its nowhere near as spooky as you made it sound in this video lol.. Unfortunately Italy strayed from their ideals but it shouldnt disqualify the entire discussion around the ideology. I think there's a lot to talk about that everybody is way too afraid to talk about these days.
Fascism is a vaguer ideology than communism or socialism, and has existed in fewer nations, so it makes more sense to refer to real-world examples there.
I don't think what someone says is as relevant as what they do, and Mussolini's actions as dictator contradict every one of those quotes. The numerous political and ethnic killings under the Italian fascists were not as bad as the Nazis, but are still well-documented.
@@animateeducate3851 I'm not disputing those things happened, they absolutley did. But I'm saying thats more the result of the individuals in charge than the ideology its self. Mussolini didnt follow his own doctrine.
The Narrator sounds like Robert Barns on quaaludes.
George Orwell literally just ripped that quote from the communist manifesto but replaced the word communist with fascist
How far away from fascism is modern China?
That's an interesting question. I think it's up for debate, because fascism is more of a series of factors than one sliding scale, so different nations can have different aspects of fascism.
I would say China has already become fascist since they aren't pure communist anymore.
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they're the same thing. with different nuances. all are socialism. fascism was co-op socialism, national socialism was biological socialism
3:47 austria also had a strong nazi support
As did Franco in Spain, that's why they helped him win the Spanish Civil War
Austria was a part of Germany during ww2
They all end with the same tragic ending!
I don’t get why people wanna try socialism after we have seen how communism failed
ngl Fascism is really epic
Yes being among the sheep and not having to think for yourself or have an identity sounds pretty cool.
@@seeker11 Lol. You dont understand what fascism is. Big difference between being a sheep and being freely loyal.
@@tylerquiet8687 You believe that fascism is a product of free loyalty and not herd/mob mentality. You have much to learn.
@@seeker11 Oh yeah? Do I? Lol.
Maybe you should pick up a book and read fascist philosophy. 'Sheep' lolllllll. Fascism disdains mindless followers
@@seeker11 Because nobody in their right mind would freely elect to be fascist, right? Nobody could ever see the value in it, could they? Lollll
Read the philosophy dude. If you haven't you dont know a damn thing about fascism.
Tradition is important for fascism cause like.. Totalitarian ideologies have an easier time gaining movement in worse off nations with more desperate people. I don't really consider this to relate to Trump, just a disclaimer. They wanna return to their last golden age, usually, when they last were thriving a prosperous. So, they bring tradition back for nostalgia and that also helps with the nationalist unity they need.
Totally relates to trump. Or you wouldn't have felt the need to disclaim that and only that in your comment.
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My country loves tradition and history because we have it for a long time
It's almost all white but we don't hate anyone, on the contrary anyone who comes to my country as a tourist talks about awesome hospitality. We're all very patriotic and patriotic songs believe it or not are more popular than any other type of genre (pop,rock,hip hop etc..) Homosexualism is medieval proportions, almost none, and if there is some they will get beaten by hooligans. Our parole is keep it for yourself, don't promote it, because we don't promote straight sexuality. Our women are 70% of the time doing housechores only and take care of the kids, and before you call it anti-feminism or some shit, they don't complain at all, if they wan't to work they work, they are happy. We don't even know what feminism is but we had two female presidents and some of our famous WW2 fighters were women, but after war they went back to housekeeping and never said "oh I'm a strong independent woman" even tho they could beat the shit out of these "strong" independent women today.
We're stereotypical alcoholics,football(soccer) fans. Are we fascists? Lol
Sony Black sourcebooks.fordham.edu/mod/mussolini-fascism.asp
Sony Black if you use violence on people for who they are because of your belief system you’re definately part fucking fash. Careful what you wish for. It might come back to you.
Is it just me or were Communism and Socialism skipped?
This is part II of the video. Those were covered in part I
Would apartheid be under nazism?
Sounds like you get your information from wikipedia.
They're all basically the same and all bad.
They all operate under the assumption that people have no natural rights and that they need to be managed, which means by a select few superior people, towards some ideal, again which is the ideal of a few superior people.
When you break these assumptions down you see a whole lot more that they have in common, and that their differences are trivial.
They all run into the problem of people not agreeing on the ideal or not agreeing on the means to achieve the ideal, and they all end up dealing with that problem with increased use force. If they're more democratic, that force shows as propaganda, coercion, censorship, eventually backed up by law, etc. If they're less democratic, then that force is more pure and direct. eg Stalin.
Whatever the case, in the end, the individual is crushed into compliance.
And regardless of the system, they all fail. There are reasons for this, but we don't have to get into them here. (One big one though, is that they all destroy incentives to progress, so there's less progression, less $$$. "They run out of other people's money.")
End of 1900s? No end of 1800s
How about this for an answer, all these systems are all the same.
The argument that just because a political party mentions Socialism, Democratic or left wing ideology doesn't mean they are socialist or have anything in common with Nazi party policies is not panning out very well in 2019, in the UK we have the Labour party rife with ant-semitism, members including elected officials totaling over 600 cases of ant-semitism for 2018 and attempting to stamp it out by changing the rules with very little success, In the USA, very similier senario, that has seen elected officials with strong support also on the left side of politics promoting antisemetic rhetoric much the same as the 1930s Nazi party did prior to their election in 1933 and despite the low turnout in the election giving supporters a free pass after the war, 95.1% of voters in the 1933 German referendum that really gave power had a turnout of 96.3%, which was very much made up of socialists.
My question is what makes a party socialist, its policies or its members actions, people 30 years ago, long after the war, appeared to really make the distinction very clear to avoid being accused of the unthinkable, being compared to supporters of the Nazi party, today people are less guarded, so was it just a big ruse to avoid the unwanted association with an ideology despite believing in many of its principle's...
Well Labour are social democrats, and that particular side of socialism has historically sided more with the right wing, than with communists. Look at how the german Social democrats had right wing militias (who would later become the nazi party) crush a communist uprising in 1918-19 (the Spartacist rebellion), then torture and kill its leaders, Rosa Luxemburg and Karl Liebknecht, despite the fact that they had been members of the social democratic party untill the outbreak of World War 1 in 1914.
Also the discrediting of socialism when the USSR collapsed, caused any social democrats to completely disown any marxist theory, leaving them ideologically defenseless against Right wing influence.
I think Fascism and Comunism's main difference is that the first one has a more ethnic and cultural focus than the second one
Ethnic? Fascism? Italy was the only fascist nation and there were some nations that were close to it, like Spain, Argentina, Portugal. All these nations were actually very diverse in terms of ethnicity. Fascists cared about the nation, culture, traditionalism and above all else, National Stability. That's why they had a distaste for Communism (class struggle) and Capitalism (huge socio-economic disparities). They wanted everyone, no matter the class or ethnicity, to live in harmony under the power of the state.
Every aspect of Fascism you mention is also applicable to Communism and Nazism as well, so what point are you trying to make?!
That all took their roots in socialism. I thought this wasn't any secret...
"I am and I will always be a socialist".
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I know what it's all based on.
The bigger umbrella term would be collectivism.
Socialism sounds like a very good idea....
In theory. But it could never work because of the inherent greed of mankind, which is what drives capitalism.
Communism sounds like socialism but with more politicians. Fascism sounds like a more militant version of socialism and Nazi ism (?) sounds like socialism on hardcore mode!
No, it doesn't. It's a denial of human nature. Both socialists and commies refuse to acknowledge evil is within us all. They simply blame everything on capitalism. Capitalism wasn't responsible for the horrors done in the USSR, Cambodia, Vietnam, China, etc. The socialists and commies were. In other words, leftietards committed ALL the same sins as the capitalists and colonizers. The USSR invaded countless areas of Europe and colonized them. But wait! Only capitalists are capable of such things! See what I mean about the denial of human nature? People to often blame "systems" instead of placing the blame at the foot of people.
U dont have to worry the ways of old the new threats in form of cyber technology and the ignorance of people looking for something to believe in . I said this years ago to my dismay we all are being victimized in one way or another . Technology does have wonder attributes for our future but finding that fine line between benefits and dismay that's where the story lies and then some.
@6:10, "Neither group fully delivered on their promises.."
What's the statistical success rate of democratic and conservative parties fully delivering on their promises over the last 200 years?
That's the problem with the narrative in videos criticising Nazism, Fascism, Socialism, and Communism. Such videos, oratory, art, and literature condition a gullible viewer's mind into believing one thing as unscrupulous, while implying the opposite (Democracy, Republicanism) as a better option. Note, my criticism of the narration does not equate to support. READ THIS ONE MORE TIME.
And differences between fascism and Nazism can be explained by point 1 in your definition of fascism, it’s inherently a nationalistic. You do mention the fascist belief as hierarchies but you make it seem less central then in my opinion it is.
Sounds like MTG
Nobody in here has ever read Gottfried Feder's book, probably don't even know the man
The National Socialists never ever used the term nazi. The word nazi is a )ew slur word coined by the )ew Konrad Heiden.
how can you have a vid about nazism and not say the word holocaust? showing a pic of Auschwitz and saying nazis killed jews isn't enough info on a defining aspect of the system, esp for younger viewers who may not have even heard of the holocaust (it is happening).
I'm confused again. Why was Fascist Mussolini so friendly with Soviet Russia? Why did he call himself the Lenin of Italy? "Author David Ramsey Steele painted Mussolini as “the Che Guevara of his day, a living saint of leftism. Handsome, courageous, charismatic, an erudite Marxist, a riveting speaker and writer, a dedicated class warrior to the core, he was the peerless duce of the Italian Left" He often also boasted that fascism was the same as communism.
Because they haven't rewritten that part of the history books yet too many plot holes to deal with
Mussolini grew up with the writings of Marx. He himself was a socialist prior to getting kicked out of the socialist party of Italy.
@@Vaxxedhole yeah he got kicked out because he wanted to push for war and help Germany. They didn’t want war, so he made his own party.
@@BrothaJeff LOL. Socialists and commies are bloodthirsty animals. You can't pacify the violent spirit of leftists. It's literally their entire reason for existing.
this is so true today... if they are loud and unwanted ... FASCIST .. But I think because of modern technology, we likely are living in a world of Democratic Fascism
Is it weird that I agreed with some of the ideals representing fascism. like not all. But some where pretty based. Some where kinda cringe. But yeah. Comparing it to communism it sounds like a much more enjoyable time. if by enjoyable I mean comparing to getting impaled to being burned alive. I'd personally rather stick to our current system we have in the US.
No I agree. It's just that the word has now been linked with the holocaust and people immediately lose their shit over it. Understandably perhaps, but I agree with you. Fascism doesn't sound "too" bad..
Since most people have views on race like the nazis in the 1930s and 1940s wouldn't they have different rave views if they existed today?
I'm not sure I understand what you're asking.
animateeducate do you think if the nazis still existed today would they have different views then they had in the 1940s?
Probably not. Even if they still believed that some races were better, they'd be working with a lot of modern information about genetics that we have now. I think they'd still have a desire to believe that they're superior to other people though, because I think that's something a lot of people want, even if they don't use racism to get there.
Plus, part of the reason we have the modern beliefs about race we have is because of all the horrifying things the Nazis did, so I think they'd be affected by that history. I think that's why a lot of people who like fascism today try to argue that it's not racist, rather than trying to say that racism is alright.
Capitalism is best just needs to be more fair in dividing wealth. More ownership of means of production. Not ownership by state. I am totally opposed to other systems
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where is your alt right video ?
They're nazis
@Wolf of the Mountain Please enlighten. Seriously though, what makes them different?
The Alt right are fascists. Literally. Neo Nazis. My father was a WW2 veteran. He died years back. I showed him the Alt Right. He said in his day Americans would’ve run them out of their towns.
We’ve moved so far to the right on the political spectrum for capitalism and corporatism that fascists can walk freely and no one seems to care except antifascists.
FYI everyone, all these names are pointless in our current age bc people are infreakinsane and take parts and pieces from them all yet only consider themselves to be one of them.
one thing is certain, fascism is a common ingredient.
@TallCoolDrink: No, that would be socialism.
Make things shorter
Nazism: the race is more important
Fascism: the state and nation is more important
Different economics as well.Fascism protects the church while Nazism tries to corrupt it.
Facism is based on the idea that together we are stronger. When it is said that a nation comes before the individual it's refering to the people. The people is the nation and the nation is it's people. This does not denie the existence of the individual only that the group comes before the individual. (The leader or dictator) is also a individual and should come before the group.(this is not always the case but NO system is safe from bad leaders and it is up to those who come after to learn from the past and move forward to avoid those same mistakes.) The reasoning for a dictator, a elected leader for life who CAN make all final decisions but also get removed from leadership threw the same method , is because it is believed and I believe that threw the current democratic system the people usually too busy with their lives ,justifyablly, to spend copious amounts of time pondering political theory can find them selves getting second hand information threw biased sources or even voting by party lines.(let alone all other forms of influencing political beliefs) add on top lobbying, political favors, the two party system, the constant undermining of each other the multiple levels of goverment that can take months to then get shut down and tried again later. There is no constant need for war that would in particular be bad for the group, but it is justified "when needed"( yes very objective I know) the strong militant order of the goverment is an analogy of for a direct hierarchy and meritocracy. The argument for nationalisation of industry does not mean that you do not own your business only that you are subject to the whims of the goverment at anytime. This is because its believed that even under a regulated economy company's or corporations cannot be trusted to make morally correct decisions. Example ( our health industry, our food industry, our telecommunication industry, our media industry, and our infrastructure.) Promoting masculinity and youth are obvious pluses and you left out promoting motherhood and womanly virtues. I could go on forever with this however for the glaring hole that I think many people see in facism I shall say this. On Giovanni gentiles origins and doctrines in laymen terms. "If it doesn't work then Fucken fix it" and too that I say constitutional facism. Freedom of speech the true right to bare equal arms. (The people are a nation a nation is the people, the state and military are part of the nation) and 2 years military training with paid labor work no actual military combat or work.
Really nice bro, it's unbiased, straight to the point, and all around epic.