Lauren, it's hard to be enthusiactic about a video in which you look so annoyed by. It's my first time noticing and this is totally still my favourite vegan channel for life. You just looked so annoyed and were being so negative all throughout the video, not just because of the bacon but in making remarks about anything. It was bit of a downer, like you didn't wanna be there. At the same time, this your platform and you really don't have to be fake jolly all the time. Thanks for your honesty. Maybe you just had a bad day or something. ❤️🌱
Lauren wasn't criticizing John at all or even his breakfast per se, just the recipe for the bacon. She doesn't like the rice paper. John even says he agrees and likes the cassava bacon better. It's a fair opinion. I've no idea what all the fuss in the comments is about.
+Chadagun - I'd disagree. There was criticism of John's choice to try something "trendy" and she was negative of paper bacon from the get go. There was no "oh, let's see how this is", no open-mindedness at all in her. John was much more into experimenting to see what the fuss was all about. Being open-minded doesn't mean they had to like more than something else they had done, but just to give it a fair shake on its own merits.
Edgy Guy Hmm. I guess you have a point there, actually. That is true. I still trust that her reaction to the actual tasting of the bacon was truthful and not biased based on the initial reaction to the thought. Still, I think people are being way too harsh and I had no problems with the video.
It's a competition. She was expressing her opinion. Aside from that, not everyone is a baby and take her comments for what they are, OPINIONS and regular competition trash talk.
congratulations Lauren ;) the haters have come. This usually means your channel has crossed the line from "small to medium" to "about to blow up and get huge". don't let their negativity in the comments bother you and stay positive! ♡
why the fuck is everyone flipping? she didnt like the bacon and thats it! stop judging youtubers (especially women) and analizing their relationships, periods and mental state. she is entitled to have an opinion and john is a big boy. ps, voting for john because the bacon cups seemed really creative and because we need a tie breaker! xx
Henyaaaaa!!! 😉 Yep John wins...but because his recipe looks cooler and considering they probably taste almost the same, the appereance plays a fundamental role here! both much better than my usual plain breakfast anyway!!! 😄
i've heard a lot about black salt? people say its very eggy tasting, you could probably use it in both of these to elevate the flavour? I'm not sure, I've never personally tried it
Not my place to comment on their relationship but Lauren's negativity is scary to me. To see someone be excited and happy about what they are making, and then have someone put them down at every turn...that is a scary pattern of behaviour.
That's what I always think about, when Lauren is complaining about people eating meat. I think the point of being vegan or even vegetarian is to not eat and replicate stuff "meat eater" do eat. You know what I mean? I'm not a fan of egg-like or meat-like vegan food. You can be vegan or vegetarian without that.
Reading the comments convinced me even more how of important it is to watch the whole video to understand what people are thinking about and then make your own unbiased judgement. I don't think Lauren was being mean or rude at all. Having said that, I am not gonna vote for anyone today. None of you are winners, I am afraid. There was no enthusiasm or conviction at all. Therefore both dishes looked unappealing. It's a pity.
Lauren even said at the end of the video that she felt they both weren't winning dishes. That they were mediocre and middle of the road dishes, she felt that they both didn't do very good this time. So I agree that I can't really vote for either person. The dishes seemed too simple for me to really appreciate. Not that I can't admire a simplistic breakfast but this video wasn't very exciting for me personally.. I also agree that Lauren wasn't being mean or rude to John, she was just stating her opinion about the rice paper bacon that they both had never even tried before today...it was just her opinion as a foodie person... Everyone is saying the meanest things in the comments about her it's disturbing. ...So many immature viewers I feel..
I HEART BREAKFAST! I vote for John's cups because the "bacon" looked crispy and it was creative. Lauren, I loved your hash brown idea as a side and the CHAO cheese was a good addition. :)
Sidenote: haters gonna hate. Relationships ebb and flow like everything else in life. People might have gotten a different vibe in this video than they normally do, congratulations to them. Who cares what you think happens between people when they are off camera? This is about vegan food, not someone's alleged personal negativity with their bf/gf. At the end I think Lauren joked about both dishes being "shit" because she is really hard on herself, and the work she puts out there. She has high standards, and there is nothing wrong with that. The video ended with laughter, so there!
If they WERE having relationship issues, that would be up to THEM to discuss with EACH OTHER. It has nothing to do with viewers or their opinions of the small (and edited) window we have into their lives via TH-cam.
I don't know why people are saying Lauren's being annoying haha. They're just having normal couple banter-a lot of people have that sort of chemistry with their partners. I like Lauren's videos and opinion because she's not one to just go with the majority-she's real AF! I like rice paper bacon but I totally see how it could almost have a skin-like texture. I double layer mine and bake it on a sheet pan and it comes out perfect for me.
It was really hard to decide! And I didn't find Lauren to be harsh to John, she was being harsh to the rice paper bacon. It's great that she was being honest instead of all of us finding it out the hard way.
I voted for John: for originality and because he had to put up with Lauren's negativity (destabilisation strategy ? 😆) I think Lauren you should take more risk next time ;)
Kaisey Foltz haha same I hate bacon even vegan bacon I guess just the flavor itself... I mean I never ate true pig skin bacon though, because I'm muslim, but I have tried all other kinds and hated it. Which sucks because I love breakfast food and always want to complete my plate with bacon ahaha
I can tell Lauren is not about that ricepaper bacon 🙄😂 she likes to do original things and she is so talented in cooking 💖☺️ and not keep up w/ fashionable recipes 👏🏻💭🙆🏼 love u Lauren you are so awesome x
People are so effing rude I swear to god, have none of you ever watched this channel before? Lauren and John are always critiquing each other and having a bit of a go at each other's dishes, because it's a competition and they both want to win... Literally can't believe that Lauren apparently isn't allowed to have a negative opinion about something she doesn't like, stop analysing their relationship based on her response to a rice paper bacon recipe
Because it wasn’t just simply “nah not a fan of this”. She just kept going on and on about it. Like 40% of the video is her rambling about how much she hates it.
KawaiiStrucked True, seeing all the mean comments towards meat eaters and such made me feel like I had to be like that. Luckily I've grown out of that, and not at all like that :) I try to be supportive and not destructive
+Gabby YES! It so annoying...especially when vegans are rude to other vegans. Like..."You need to eat more, don't calorie restrict!" etc. It gets very old.
Which is the point, right?! Especially for new/transitioning vegans. The closer to the real thing without the cruelty/victim, the better for a meat eater thinking, "Hmm, that looks/sounds delicious...maybe I'll give it a try."
Ughh they both look so good, eggs were my favourite before going vegan so I love finding ways to recreate an old fave but in a better way! ALSO always loving the challenge videos, you guys are so creative 🎉👏🏽
i feel bad for lauren now reading all the comments even though i also thought the negativity was a bit overwhelming in the video, i'm sure john didn't really take it as personally as some viewers did haha still love this channel and the both of you, thank you for posting great content :)
Both are so creative, but I vote for John's this time! Hey Hot for Food! I absolutely love both of you and all your videos, but this video was a little hard to watch for me... normally I really enjoy your banter and poking fun at each other, but this time it felt entirely one-sided to me (i.e. Lauren tearing John down). I don't know, I could very well be out of line, so no need to take my opinion to heart if it doesn't resonate! I really don't mean to offend. Obviously it's not up to me to dictate anyone's behavior at all. TL;DR, I feel much more at ease watching your videos that have a more positive, uplifting undertone. Just some feedback! I'm still inspired daily by this channel. xoxo
You are seriously my FAVORITE you tuber. You have such a healthy relationship with food and a happy/healthy lifestyle in general! Your page overall spreads so much positivity its awesome! Also you make me want to visit Canada!! ahha
Wow, God forbid a woman has an opinion. These comments are disgusting...I totally knew what she meant about the weirdness of rice paper being super unsettling and almost making your skin crawl. I've always felt the same way about it. Maybe she just comes off as rude to people who don't regularly watch their videos? I don't get why everyone is bitching. Both dishes looked pretty tasty
being a women I agree she should be able to state her opinion but one comment is enough. she was being so negative by the end of it and that's not good whether you're a man or women. if John was acting like that people would react the same way.
It's so funny people are bitching meanwhile Lauren and John are fine lol... Maybe I was watching a different video but he was agreeing with her and what she was saying. She just doesn't like RICE PAPER.. And i'm pretty sure she loves John's food and his cooking. People will find anything to bitch about and they're probably laughing at every comment together because they don't find it a big deal
I live eat breathe Lauren and her videos and her personality. Whatever the reason is, she was definitely off in this video. Not going to attack because we as viewers do not know what goes on behind the scenes, but when you put out this kind of material and you act a certain way, there is going to be backlash. Idk, I feel like I'm seeing a different person. She's made videos on how she tries not to be a certain way and be negative, but this seemed like everything she doesn't want to be or portray to us. We all have bad days though, that's for sure. Maybe it wasn't even a bad day. Who knows
This is my 2nd video. Months ago, I watched the first episode I immediately subscribed. Then I just watched this and wondered what made me subscribe. Since you said that she's usually better, I'll subscribe, again. 💙 The recipes are exactly what I am looking for. Videos edited just right. 👌🏽
whoa. Watching the video I repeatedly thought to myself _I love their camaraderie, their banter, & their chemistry._ Here I was thinking _relationship goaaals_ . But *then.* I made the fatalistic mistake of reading the comments. **Ignoramuses everywhere**
The back and forth in this is so cute and funny. Also, you're allowed to like and not like something. Welcome to the real world, people. Rice paper bacon wasnt Lauren's "thing". Not everything is going to be good to everyone that tries it. I wonder if you could make bacon out of something else grain-like. Just experiment.
Read comments first. Was a little worried. And then realized this episode was no different. People are blowing this out of proportion. :/ good episode guys.
+Two City Vegans +hot for food It only means they are getting bigger! Haters and negative people only come when you start to grow huge. Also congratulations on almost 200000 subscribers Lauren and John! Thank you for all the amazing recipes and humor you two put out.
Totally agree. Was scared to watch the video but if I didn't read the comments first, I don't even think I would've noticed the whole "issue". She just doesn't like the bacon. Big whoop.
Everyone has the right to their opinions but not everyone necessarily cares about them. HOWEVER, I PERSONALLY just want to say..I feel if you stopped watching because of Lauren simply sharing her thoughts about how she felt towards the rice paper bacon,..like why are you here? She wan't "complaining"... She is a foodie person....she's in the kitchen a lot. She has the right to voice her opinion about the recipes they make here. And believe it or not, a lot of people want the opinions from someone REAL and HONEST like Lauren, myself being one of those people. IT WAS JUST HER OPINION ON THE BACON!! She even tried it multiple times, almost as if she was trying to give it more of a chance, how she felt about it is genuine. I don't believe at all that she was "being mean" or "unfair" to John by voicing her opinion. John even stated that he felt if he had done the casaba bacon with it, his dish would've been perfect. So if you want to vote for John purely out of pity..then that's silly, he knows Lauren and how she is passionate about what she eats...she wasn't "trying to attack" him or "make it seem like his dish wasn't as good so she would win" or anything like that. xD ...I cannot believe what I'm reading in some of the comments. Just so silly... Like come on guys...this is Lauren... -.- She is a good and honest food person lol.. A lot of you are definitely overreacting towards how she stated her opinion on the bacon.
I read the comments before watching, so when I finally did watch the video, I was waiting for some huge thing to happen. Nothing happened. I don't get what the big deal is. Has no one ever met a woman with a strong personality before? I think you're all just offended by the idea of a woman who isn't a bubbly, meek, agreeable, airhead. Lauren knows how to joke around and dish it with the guys. She's dominant, and that's just fine.
Yum to both, but I'm a sucker for a mini quiche so John got my vote today. I still haven't tried the Laekon bacon. I have all the ingredients but haven't gotten to it yet. I was hoping the crispy/chewy factor was what made it a win for me. I still have to try it for myself and see! I'm picky about texture too, so Lauren wigging out over the texture was totally relatable to me! If the texture is off for me, I can't get it down my gullet! Breakfast is my favorite meal too, so I loved this challenge! Way to go guys! 💕
it’s her personality , jokingly saying she’s better, yes she does that in a lot of videos. But this time she was discussing the super popular recipe and she thinks there are better bacon recipes and john agrees
***** I agree too! I think people are making a big deal out of something little. It's fine if she prefers a different bacon recipe. Not everything they experiment with is gonna be perfect
I think Lauren seems a little abusive at times, in all of their videos. She did mention on her personal channel once that she can be verbally abusive towards John (she was really upset about it), and that she was trying to learn to control it. I honestly feel for both of them.
I think people (especially women) are protective of John because he's super mellow and very gracious. It doesn't mean they don't love Lauren. Those of us who have been watching their videos for a while understand her personality and the way they interact with one another.
John's tofu "egg" cups, because it's more innovative, and has more texture and variety of flavors. Probably would be better with the cassava bacon instead of the rice paper, though.
I think John won with his vegan breakfast cups. Even if the rice paper wasn't all that great the concept and creativity won me over by a land slide. ☺️
everyone complaining about lauren and the bacon only shows that they don't watch you that much. i get you haha and that doesn't mean you've got a problem with john!!! you're super honest in all aspects and care a lot about cooking and food, so you won't be fake by saying its good if it isn't for you. and john is the one that knows you the best so you're clearly not being mean to him. you too are amazing!
She isn't normally like this, you guys have to take in consideration maybe they were in the middle of a fight and the show must go on, maybe she was just moody because she is on her period, or just moody for no reason. We ALL go through ups and downs in life, this was the first video she was a little negative they aren't robots stop acting like this isn't normal. We aren't all happy and nice all of the time. and I like the fact that she isn't fake so she was in a bitch mood who fucking cares?!?!?!?!?!?!
I'm actually really disgusted with the things people are saying about Lauren. I personally don't even feel she was being negative... Like she was just giving her honest opinion on the bacon that they both hadn't even tried until today.... People are saying the rudest things about her... She is a foodie person... Like she knows her food... I personally love this channel because of how honest and real Lauren is about things, that's why I watch.. Some of these viewers seem super immature to say some of the things they've said about her in this video. I feel they must be new to this channel and not used to watching people talk about their opinions on food often.. Lauren doesn't have to pretend like she is in love with everything John or herself makes just because it's vegan. :(
Even John was saying he understood what she was saying and agreed with her at one point! Not everyone is robots and can just put on a happy face, maybe she was having a bad day or something.
Seems like they don't get that she was trying to explain to John what it was she didn't like about it. She has the right to express that she doesn't like something, even if it it multiple times. I don't feel she was being mean or disrespectful to John at all. My personal opinion is that people were being unnecessarily rude towards her and how she felt about the bacon. Silly to think people are bothered by how many times she says she doesn't like something.. What I'm more upset over, are the extremely harsh words being thrown at Lauren. I 100% stand by what I said in my comment earlier.
I can't believe you justify her actions (when she just said she didn't like it) by saying she might be on her period, like women can't express their opinion because they feel like it? And of course they aren't in the middle of a fight oh my god, this sounds unbelievable!
I vote John. Lauren, reason rice paper bacon is preferred for some is also that it is an inexpensive food item with easy portion control as you can cook as many sheets as you want without having to store a left over perishable item as with a vegetable. Also, you expressed your opinion on the bacon early in the video but kept repeating it which made your comment appear to be defensive and aggressive.
Another awesome video, creative and entertaining. You two are the best, your banter is so fun and I love your honesty. I think I like the idea of John's egg cups best for this one...will try with cassava though. Thanks for this rad vegan channel! 😄
I'm so happy you made an omelette! I've been wanting to give that a try myself and seeing the consistency along with the recipe was a big help! I'm voting for Lauren! But John I CANNOT believe how realistic that bacon turned out! Looks like the real thing!
I voted for John just because he was more positive. Its very important to be positive when you eat your breakfast and set the tone for the rest of the day. But omelett looked very good too.
The recipe I use puts oil in the sauce, so it's greasy and yummy. I do like skin though, so I love it even more that the texture is like that :) I'll try the cassava recipe. I trust you that it's better :) I vote for John's dish today. The muffin form makes it special.
and its also ALL fun and games. I thought people liked some friendly competition, hence all the cooking comp shows... haha but everyone needed their cry baby tissues for this one ;P
I have to give my vote to John. Very creative and even if they didn't like the end result, it's nice to see a vegan version for those cups. Keep the good work guys, you inspire me every week. Greetings from Chile!
Man, I am OBSESSED with this channel. I am more of a health vegan so I eat 95%-99% whole foods but once in a while i'll sneak in some vegan junk food haha. But you guys make veganism absolutely amazing! thank you for contributing your amazing and delicious ideas to the vegan community!
I look forward to the taco idea...I might even try it this weekend! However both ideas were incredible, everyone can't seem to stop taco-ing-bout this video, lol :P
I like the cups because they make sense on the go during the work week. I don't know why everyone is giving a rough go on their relationship, I was actually thinking what an amazing connection they have and that it's solid and real because they can say what they really think and then discuss it. I like how they keep bumping into each other and banter. You guys are fun!
I think the issue with the paper bacon is that it actually looks like real bacon (from an animal ;) - which seems to be the point. It was funny Lauren mentioned how complex his preparation was for the bacon cups - vegan eggs are over complicated to make lol. I'd give vote for John over Lauren's though. Seemed a more interesting breakfast to try out.
Made the omelette today....best vegan omelette recipe I've made! Thank you so much for a lovely recipe Lauren. John I'm trying your idea in the next couple of days. You two are so cute and post wonderful tasting recipes....thank you, really enjoy watching:)) Keep up the great work. You guys inspire me to stick to eating a plant based diet ( I'm a newbie...3 months now!)
Just made the breakfast cups, using the rice paper bacon around edge only. This too was a lovely recipe. I would make these quiches again ! You guys definitely fine turn recipes that are out there. If you create a cookbook, I'd pre-order for sure :) THANK YOU :)))))
I picked Lauren's dish, it looks tasty, I could make it in the morning with ease and head out. John's dish I could make the night before and reheat it but I don't like anything slimy and rice paper slims. Both dishes look wonderful, thank you both for sharing!
Hey all! I think Lauren just doesn't like how realistic the mouth feel is. I'm the same way, I can't even eat sautéed mushrooms sometimes because the texture reminds me too much of shrimp or some kind of seafood. Also guys, Lauren was critical of her own dish as well. If you looked you would understand. They both cook, so they are critical of themselves, and thats a trait most home cooks have, they always want to get better! I know when I cook for my BF he loves it but I'm just there like "ugh, this could be so much better!" Haha. Maybe Lauren and I have that perfectionist trait in common. Also, if you are fake with your loved one and tell them everything they do is good, how are you helping them grow as a person? Love you both John and Lauren, you guys are like my virtual vegan parents who have helped me through so much! Please keep up your amazing work.
They both were very good ideas! I think you could leave the rice paper bacon out and use a tomato on bottom with cheese. I have try them first. great job to both of you!
Lauren, it's hard to be enthusiactic about a video in which you look so annoyed by. It's my first time noticing and this is totally still my favourite vegan channel for life. You just looked so annoyed and were being so negative all throughout the video, not just because of the bacon but in making remarks about anything. It was bit of a downer, like you didn't wanna be there. At the same time, this your platform and you really don't have to be fake jolly all the time. Thanks for your honesty. Maybe you just had a bad day or something. ❤️🌱
Lauren wasn't criticizing John at all or even his breakfast per se, just the recipe for the bacon. She doesn't like the rice paper. John even says he agrees and likes the cassava bacon better. It's a fair opinion. I've no idea what all the fuss in the comments is about.
YES!
I feel the same. I like Lauren's honest 'in your face' personality honestly.
Emani Odumosu I watched the whole video after reading the comments and still didn't see it like that at all.
+Chadagun - I'd disagree. There was criticism of John's choice to try something "trendy" and she was negative of paper bacon from the get go. There was no "oh, let's see how this is", no open-mindedness at all in her. John was much more into experimenting to see what the fuss was all about.
Being open-minded doesn't mean they had to like more than something else they had done, but just to give it a fair shake on its own merits.
Edgy Guy Hmm. I guess you have a point there, actually. That is true. I still trust that her reaction to the actual tasting of the bacon was truthful and not biased based on the initial reaction to the thought. Still, I think people are being way too harsh and I had no problems with the video.
Im voting for John. Almost stopped watching because of Laurens complaining and he should win because she was being mean and unfair.
yup
I agree, she was a real brat to him. Poor guy.
LOL what?? she was only criticizing rice paper bacon. Get over it.
It's a competition. She was expressing her opinion. Aside from that, not everyone is a baby and take her comments for what they are, OPINIONS and regular competition trash talk.
congratulations Lauren ;) the haters have come. This usually means your channel has crossed the line from "small to medium" to "about to blow up and get huge". don't let their negativity in the comments bother you and stay positive! ♡
I TOTES AGREE WITH YOU
I feel like there wasn't alot of chemistry today between the 2 of them this time. The video seemed off to me
Exactly my thoughts!
I feel like they have been this way in the past few videos.
That's not for you to judge.
agree, she reminded of me when im hungry and no one can do anything right ahahah
I feel like they're going to break up.
why the fuck is everyone flipping? she didnt like the bacon and thats it! stop judging youtubers (especially women) and analizing their relationships, periods and mental state. she is entitled to have an opinion and john is a big boy. ps, voting for john because the bacon cups seemed really creative and because we need a tie breaker! xx
Yasss Henya tell em !!
omg thank you! yeesh. people. also, no idea who i'm voting for i need to get on this.
"stop judging youtubers (especially women) and analizing their relationships, periods and mental state"
THIS.
Henyaaaaa!!! 😉 Yep John wins...but because his recipe looks cooler and considering they probably taste almost the same, the appereance plays a fundamental role here! both much better than my usual plain breakfast anyway!!! 😄
You are absolutely right Henya!
i've heard a lot about black salt? people say its very eggy tasting, you could probably use it in both of these to elevate the flavour? I'm not sure, I've never personally tried it
It will CHANGE your life
yeah, I need to get some and give it a whirl. Have heard many good things.
I've heard so many good things about it. I wonder where you can get it. Probably not a regular grocery store eh?
Asian/International grocery is prob your best bet. I live in a small town so mine doesn't have it, so online would be my only way.
Elle Ⓥ Thank you hun, I'll have to check them out and if not online i shall go 😊
Not my place to comment on their relationship but Lauren's negativity is scary to me. To see someone be excited and happy about what they are making, and then have someone put them down at every turn...that is a scary pattern of behaviour.
Wait isn't the whole point of making realistic bacon, the fact that it IS like pig skin or some type of animal but really isn't?
exactly, and the same could even be said about her omelette or just tofu scrambles in general, to some people it might be too similar to real eggs
That's what I always think about, when Lauren is complaining about people eating meat. I think the point of being vegan or even vegetarian is to not eat and replicate stuff "meat eater" do eat. You know what I mean? I'm not a fan of egg-like or meat-like vegan food. You can be vegan or vegetarian without that.
It tastes exactly like skin without the cruelty. Sooooo delicious!!
Well, lots of vegans don't eat imitation meat because it grosses them out.
I agree, I hate fake meats. I left meat for a reason, it's gross.
John John John 😩😭😋 they're like little muffins of goodness!
And Lauren, everyone in the comment section is angry at you because their omlettes taste like pigeon poop. 💖
+Daria Mehrnia what do you want lol?
+Daria Mehrnia how?
+Daria Mehrnia no she's not she's just saying what ppl say and doesn't agree
Reading the comments convinced me even more how of important it is to watch the whole video to understand what people are thinking about and then make your own unbiased judgement. I don't think Lauren was being mean or rude at all. Having said that, I am not gonna vote for anyone today. None of you are winners, I am afraid. There was no enthusiasm or conviction at all. Therefore both dishes looked unappealing. It's a pity.
Lauren even said at the end of the video that she felt they both weren't winning dishes. That they were mediocre and middle of the road dishes, she felt that they both didn't do very good this time. So I agree that I can't really vote for either person. The dishes seemed too simple for me to really appreciate. Not that I can't admire a simplistic breakfast but this video wasn't very exciting for me personally.. I also agree that Lauren wasn't being mean or rude to John, she was just stating her opinion about the rice paper bacon that they both had never even tried before today...it was just her opinion as a foodie person... Everyone is saying the meanest things in the comments about her it's disturbing. ...So many immature viewers I feel..
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I HEART BREAKFAST! I vote for John's cups because the "bacon" looked crispy and it was creative. Lauren, I loved your hash brown idea as a side and the CHAO cheese was a good addition. :)
Sidenote: haters gonna hate. Relationships ebb and flow like everything else in life. People might have gotten a different vibe in this video than they normally do, congratulations to them. Who cares what you think happens between people when they are off camera? This is about vegan food, not someone's alleged personal negativity with their bf/gf. At the end I think Lauren joked about both dishes being "shit" because she is really hard on herself, and the work she puts out there. She has high standards, and there is nothing wrong with that. The video ended with laughter, so there!
TRUE! Someone understands!
If they WERE having relationship issues, that would be up to THEM to discuss with EACH OTHER. It has nothing to do with viewers or their opinions of the small (and edited) window we have into their lives via TH-cam.
I don't know why people are saying Lauren's being annoying haha. They're just having normal couple banter-a lot of people have that sort of chemistry with their partners. I like Lauren's videos and opinion because she's not one to just go with the majority-she's real AF! I like rice paper bacon but I totally see how it could almost have a skin-like texture. I double layer mine and bake it on a sheet pan and it comes out perfect for me.
SHE WAS CRITICISING THE BACON NOT JOHN'S COOKING OR JOHN!!
YAAASSSS
It was really hard to decide! And I didn't find Lauren to be harsh to John, she was being harsh to the rice paper bacon. It's great that she was being honest instead of all of us finding it out the hard way.
Also Lauren's hair looks so healthy! I couldn't stop noticing haha
"measuring tofu is kinda difficult”
YEAH!!!! IF YOU’D USE THE METRIC SYSTEM IT WOULDN’T BE A PROBLEM 😂😂
ahahhaha XXD true
hahaaaa sooooo true !
She's Canadian so she does use the metric system!!
She's Canadian not American lol
us Canadians don't use the metric system haha.. I always just end up saying "half a block...ish" hahaha
I voted for John: for originality and because he had to put up with Lauren's negativity (destabilisation strategy ? 😆)
I think Lauren you should take more risk next time ;)
Lauren was so mean the whole time :(
JOHN because he went way more creative and every non vegan loves bacon so they might go vegan if they see this!
Before I went vegan I hated bacon lol
I would be vegetarian but I couldn't drink normal milk and I hate almond milk....
+FarmGirl 359 when you are vegetarian you can drink milk
there are many other non-dairy milk options for ex. oat milk, coconut milk, soy milk :)
Kaisey Foltz haha same I hate bacon even vegan bacon I guess just the flavor itself... I mean I never ate true pig skin bacon though, because I'm muslim, but I have tried all other kinds and hated it. Which sucks because I love breakfast food and always want to complete my plate with bacon ahaha
Lol, Lauren doesn't like the bacon because it's too much like bacon. That's funny.I vote for John's quiche cups! :) Sorry Lauren.
Unlikely Vegan I was thinking the same thing lol
I can tell Lauren is not about that ricepaper bacon 🙄😂 she likes to do original things and she is so talented in cooking 💖☺️ and not keep up w/ fashionable recipes 👏🏻💭🙆🏼 love u Lauren you are so awesome x
This is a proper way to act to her not like the bacon unlike the rest of the negative nasty comments towards her,!
Thank you!! #preach
Someone who does isnt original or talented? Its just food not a competition to see who uses the most unique ingredients.
I love how excited John gets when his recipe works out as he envisioned, haha. :D
I had to stop watching because the complaining about the rice paper bacon was annoying 😂
I almost had to stop watching too
Yeah Lauren was being really annoying...
whoaaa be nice guys. There is enough negativity on TH-cam without comments like these :)
Same
+Ryan Martin True. Once I read through the rest of the comments I felt bad.
People are so effing rude I swear to god, have none of you ever watched this channel before? Lauren and John are always critiquing each other and having a bit of a go at each other's dishes, because it's a competition and they both want to win... Literally can't believe that Lauren apparently isn't allowed to have a negative opinion about something she doesn't like, stop analysing their relationship based on her response to a rice paper bacon recipe
ALSO JOHN LITERALLY DIDN'T EVEN LIKE THE RICE PAPER BACON, HE HAD THE SAME OPINION AND NO ONE'S MAD AT HIM!
cause he wasn't being an annoying shit about it
Because it wasn’t just simply “nah not a fan of this”. She just kept going on and on about it. Like 40% of the video is her rambling about how much she hates it.
Jesus, you need to chill, people. Lauren didn't liked the bacon, that's all...
Agreed, people get a little sensitive online
+Gabby Especially in the vegan community... (Coming from a vegan).
KawaiiStrucked True, seeing all the mean comments towards meat eaters and such made me feel like I had to be like that. Luckily I've grown out of that, and not at all like that :) I try to be supportive and not destructive
+Gabby YES! It so annoying...especially when vegans are rude to other vegans. Like..."You need to eat more, don't calorie restrict!" etc. It gets very old.
KawaiiStrucked Agreed, I can't eat 2,500 calories like other vegans. I eat until im full and I am eat when I'm hungry like it should be :)
When Lauren said "It looks like pig's skin!..." I was like "SOLD!"
They are making fake bacon....what did she expect it to look like? I dont understand this thinking.
Which is the point, right?! Especially for new/transitioning vegans. The closer to the real thing without the cruelty/victim, the better for a meat eater thinking, "Hmm, that looks/sounds delicious...maybe I'll give it a try."
Voting for John. Because bacon. And because of how patient he is with all Lauren's unnecessary complaining and incessant criticism
You guys are acting like a couple has never fought before lol. We just happened to see it on camera. Get over it... they are obviously totally in love
Ughh they both look so good, eggs were my favourite before going vegan so I love finding ways to recreate an old fave but in a better way! ALSO always loving the challenge videos, you guys are so creative 🎉👏🏽
thanks SO much for watching :D happy cooking xo
Hang on, I didn't quite catch that - does Lauren not like the rice paper bacon?
i feel bad for lauren now reading all the comments even though i also thought the negativity was a bit overwhelming in the video, i'm sure john didn't really take it as personally as some viewers did haha
still love this channel and the both of you, thank you for posting great content :)
I don't think people are upset that she doesn't like the rice paper bacon it's just the way she's coming off about it all
But hey that's her personality
Exactly. Lol all she does is complain in every video
Both are so creative, but I vote for John's this time!
Hey Hot for Food! I absolutely love both of you and all your videos, but this video was a little hard to watch for me... normally I really enjoy your banter and poking fun at each other, but this time it felt entirely one-sided to me (i.e. Lauren tearing John down). I don't know, I could very well be out of line, so no need to take my opinion to heart if it doesn't resonate! I really don't mean to offend. Obviously it's not up to me to dictate anyone's behavior at all.
TL;DR, I feel much more at ease watching your videos that have a more positive, uplifting undertone. Just some feedback! I'm still inspired daily by this channel. xoxo
I loved John's cups! I thought it was extremely creative.
Voting for John only because it's unfair how Lauren just kept complaining
You are seriously my FAVORITE you tuber. You have such a healthy relationship with food and a happy/healthy lifestyle in general! Your page overall spreads so much positivity its awesome! Also you make me want to visit Canada!! ahha
THANK YOU!!! come to canada EH :D
Wow, God forbid a woman has an opinion. These comments are disgusting...I totally knew what she meant about the weirdness of rice paper being super unsettling and almost making your skin crawl. I've always felt the same way about it. Maybe she just comes off as rude to people who don't regularly watch their videos? I don't get why everyone is bitching. Both dishes looked pretty tasty
100000% agree
being a women I agree she should be able to state her opinion but one comment is enough. she was being so negative by the end of it and that's not good whether you're a man or women. if John was acting like that people would react the same way.
It's not just about her making comments. She's being rude about it. You much be a comment troll
Exactly. Besides, John is a big boy.
for you
Also....never thought to put old bay into my "eggs" GENIUS LADY!
YASSS!
ditto!
Lauren, I love you.. but what's with all the negativity? Loved both the dishes but I went with John's bc of creativity :)
I love how you are both so honest. That's what makes me continue to watch. Not all recipes come out great, so this is how we learn. Thank you.
Rice paper bacon is fucking delicious, coming from someone who eats actual meat bacon. However, the recipe (EdgyVeg) used olive oil in her marinade.
It's so funny people are bitching meanwhile Lauren and John are fine lol... Maybe I was watching a different video but he was agreeing with her and what she was saying. She just doesn't like RICE PAPER.. And i'm pretty sure she loves John's food and his cooking. People will find anything to bitch about and they're probably laughing at every comment together because they don't find it a big deal
I'll go with *John* 🙌
Lauren,Pale Pink is your color.You look stunning in this video👌
I live eat breathe Lauren and her videos and her personality. Whatever the reason is, she was definitely off in this video. Not going to attack because we as viewers do not know what goes on behind the scenes, but when you put out this kind of material and you act a certain way, there is going to be backlash. Idk, I feel like I'm seeing a different person. She's made videos on how she tries not to be a certain way and be negative, but this seemed like everything she doesn't want to be or portray to us. We all have bad days though, that's for sure. Maybe it wasn't even a bad day. Who knows
This is my 2nd video. Months ago, I watched the first episode I immediately subscribed. Then I just watched this and wondered what made me subscribe. Since you said that she's usually better, I'll subscribe, again. 💙
The recipes are exactly what I am looking for. Videos edited just right. 👌🏽
whoa. Watching the video I repeatedly thought to myself _I love their camaraderie, their banter, & their chemistry._ Here I was thinking _relationship goaaals_ . But *then.* I made the fatalistic mistake of reading the comments. **Ignoramuses everywhere**
not relationship goals unless you want to be the type who demeans your partner.
The back and forth in this is so cute and funny. Also, you're allowed to like and not like something. Welcome to the real world, people. Rice paper bacon wasnt Lauren's "thing". Not everything is going to be good to everyone that tries it. I wonder if you could make bacon out of something else grain-like. Just experiment.
I thought it was adorable too! I don't get why everyone has their ass clenched about her behavior tbh. All well!
John because that was so creative and it turned out pretty good
can u use black sea salt to make it taste more egg like?
sure! we just don't like it
Read comments first. Was a little worried. And then realized this episode was no different. People are blowing this out of proportion. :/ good episode guys.
thanks you two cutie vegan pies :D
oh damn. now i want pie... :) and you're so welcome! you guys are cuter ;)
+Two City Vegans +hot for food It only means they are getting bigger! Haters and negative people only come when you start to grow huge. Also congratulations on almost 200000 subscribers Lauren and John! Thank you for all the amazing recipes and humor you two put out.
Totally agree. Was scared to watch the video but if I didn't read the comments first, I don't even think I would've noticed the whole "issue". She just doesn't like the bacon. Big whoop.
John's looks delicious and totally gets my vote. Lauren's constant comments about disliking the bacon did get tiring.
Everyone has the right to their opinions but not everyone necessarily cares about them. HOWEVER, I PERSONALLY just want to say..I feel if you stopped watching because of Lauren simply sharing her thoughts about how she felt towards the rice paper bacon,..like why are you here? She wan't "complaining"... She is a foodie person....she's in the kitchen a lot. She has the right to voice her opinion about the recipes they make here. And believe it or not, a lot of people want the opinions from someone REAL and HONEST like Lauren, myself being one of those people. IT WAS JUST HER OPINION ON THE BACON!! She even tried it multiple times, almost as if she was trying to give it more of a chance, how she felt about it is genuine. I don't believe at all that she was "being mean" or "unfair" to John by voicing her opinion. John even stated that he felt if he had done the casaba bacon with it, his dish would've been perfect. So if you want to vote for John purely out of pity..then that's silly, he knows Lauren and how she is passionate about what she eats...she wasn't "trying to attack" him or "make it seem like his dish wasn't as good so she would win" or anything like that. xD ...I cannot believe what I'm reading in some of the comments. Just so silly... Like come on guys...this is Lauren... -.- She is a good and honest food person lol.. A lot of you are definitely overreacting towards how she stated her opinion on the bacon.
I read the comments before watching, so when I finally did watch the video, I was waiting for some huge thing to happen. Nothing happened. I don't get what the big deal is. Has no one ever met a woman with a strong personality before?
I think you're all just offended by the idea of a woman who isn't a bubbly, meek, agreeable, airhead. Lauren knows how to joke around and dish it with the guys. She's dominant, and that's just fine.
John because of his creativity, like c'mon lol
Yum to both, but I'm a sucker for a mini quiche so John got my vote today. I still haven't tried the Laekon bacon. I have all the ingredients but haven't gotten to it yet. I was hoping the crispy/chewy factor was what made it a win for me. I still have to try it for myself and see! I'm picky about texture too, so Lauren wigging out over the texture was totally relatable to me! If the texture is off for me, I can't get it down my gullet! Breakfast is my favorite meal too, so I loved this challenge! Way to go guys! 💕
It's a competition and she was trash talking. She does it EVERY video where they compete. But she always ends up eating what he makes!
I think johns recipe was more innovative and it's the one I want to try! Voting John 👍🏻
it’s her personality , jokingly saying she’s better, yes she does that in a lot of videos. But this time she was discussing the super popular recipe and she thinks there are better bacon recipes and john agrees
***** I agree too! I think people are making a big deal out of something little. It's fine if she prefers a different bacon recipe. Not everything they experiment with is gonna be perfect
I think Lauren seems a little abusive at times, in all of their videos. She did mention on her personal channel once that she can be verbally abusive towards John (she was really upset about it), and that she was trying to learn to control it.
I honestly feel for both of them.
+GwendolynRaine which video was it?
The way y’all literally hate each other in the first clip lmao
Lauren was bugging more than usual in this episode. John won! 🙌🏽
I think people (especially women) are protective of John because he's super mellow and very gracious. It doesn't mean they don't love Lauren. Those of us who have been watching their videos for a while understand her personality and the way they interact with one another.
These challenges always make me so hungry!
John's tofu "egg" cups, because it's more innovative, and has more texture and variety of flavors. Probably would be better with the cassava bacon instead of the rice paper, though.
I agree with Lauren they both look like shit!! LOL I think you both should do a redo!!
BAHAHAA
or do a sweet breakfast challenge! Both these dishes were savory and I know lots of people love their sugar fix in the morning :)
This is a great idea :)
I think John won with his vegan breakfast cups. Even if the rice paper wasn't all that great the concept and creativity won me over by a land slide. ☺️
Lauren, this color looks MARVELOUS on you!😍👸🏻
everyone complaining about lauren and the bacon only shows that they don't watch you that much. i get you haha and that doesn't mean you've got a problem with john!!! you're super honest in all aspects and care a lot about cooking and food, so you won't be fake by saying its good if it isn't for you. and john is the one that knows you the best so you're clearly not being mean to him. you too are amazing!
She isn't normally like this, you guys have to take in consideration maybe they were in the middle of a fight and the show must go on, maybe she was just moody because she is on her period, or just moody for no reason. We ALL go through ups and downs in life, this was the first video she was a little negative they aren't robots stop acting like this isn't normal. We aren't all happy and nice all of the time. and I like the fact that she isn't fake so she was in a bitch mood who fucking cares?!?!?!?!?!?!
I'm actually really disgusted with the things people are saying about Lauren. I personally don't even feel she was being negative... Like she was just giving her honest opinion on the bacon that they both hadn't even tried until today.... People are saying the rudest things about her... She is a foodie person... Like she knows her food... I personally love this channel because of how honest and real Lauren is about things, that's why I watch.. Some of these viewers seem super immature to say some of the things they've said about her in this video. I feel they must be new to this channel and not used to watching people talk about their opinions on food often.. Lauren doesn't have to pretend like she is in love with everything John or herself makes just because it's vegan. :(
Aaliyah Wølfe yeah girl, I feel ya!
Even John was saying he understood what she was saying and agreed with her at one point! Not everyone is robots and can just put on a happy face, maybe she was having a bad day or something.
Seems like they don't get that she was trying to explain to John what it was she didn't like about it. She has the right to express that she doesn't like something, even if it it multiple times. I don't feel she was being mean or disrespectful to John at all. My personal opinion is that people were being unnecessarily rude towards her and how she felt about the bacon. Silly to think people are bothered by how many times she says she doesn't like something.. What I'm more upset over, are the extremely harsh words being thrown at Lauren. I 100% stand by what I said in my comment earlier.
I can't believe you justify her actions (when she just said she didn't like it) by saying she might be on her period, like women can't express their opinion because they feel like it? And of course they aren't in the middle of a fight oh my god, this sounds unbelievable!
I vote John. Lauren, reason rice paper bacon is preferred for some is also that it is an inexpensive food item with easy portion control as you can cook as many sheets as you want without having to store a left over perishable item as with a vegetable. Also, you expressed your opinion on the bacon early in the video but kept repeating it which made your comment appear to be defensive and aggressive.
I vote for John´s cool cups!!!
Another awesome video, creative and entertaining. You two are the best, your banter is so fun and I love your honesty. I think I like the idea of John's egg cups best for this one...will try with cassava though. Thanks for this rad vegan channel! 😄
bake the bacon so it gets all the way crisp! i don't like chewy rice paper bacon either. It sticks in your teeth. :p
I'm so happy you made an omelette! I've been wanting to give that a try myself and seeing the consistency along with the recipe was a big help! I'm voting for Lauren!
But John I CANNOT believe how realistic that bacon turned out! Looks like the real thing!
I voted for John just because he was more positive. Its very important to be positive when you eat your breakfast and set the tone for the rest of the day. But omelett looked very good too.
I've made the rice paper bacon so many times and it tastes muchhhhhh better than any store bought vegan bacon!
The recipe I use puts oil in the sauce, so it's greasy and yummy. I do like skin though, so I love it even more that the texture is like that :)
I'll try the cassava recipe. I trust you that it's better :)
I vote for John's dish today. The muffin form makes it special.
Lauren is a girl boss! I love you and John
and its also ALL fun and games. I thought people liked some friendly competition, hence all the cooking comp shows... haha but everyone needed their cry baby tissues for this one ;P
I have to give my vote to John. Very creative and even if they didn't like the end result, it's nice to see a vegan version for those cups. Keep the good work guys, you inspire me every week. Greetings from Chile!
is no one going to talk about when Lauren calls Jon "big guns" and he says "I like that" bc I died
Man, I am OBSESSED with this channel. I am more of a health vegan so I eat 95%-99% whole foods but once in a while i'll sneak in some vegan junk food haha. But you guys make veganism absolutely amazing! thank you for contributing your amazing and delicious ideas to the vegan community!
thank you so much!
I didn't really like all of the negative comments Lauren was making :-(
John's breakfast cups are creative & look really good! I'm going with John on this one
Sorry, Lauren. I had to vote for John this time! He now currently has 100% of the votes :P
I look forward to the taco idea...I might even try it this weekend! However both ideas were incredible, everyone can't seem to stop taco-ing-bout this video, lol :P
RIGHT!
John's is so inventive!
I like the cups because they make sense on the go during the work week. I don't know why everyone is giving a rough go on their relationship, I was actually thinking what an amazing connection they have and that it's solid and real because they can say what they really think and then discuss it. I like how they keep bumping into each other and banter. You guys are fun!
Not a big fan of omelet so I'm going with the cups.
I think the issue with the paper bacon is that it actually looks like real bacon (from an animal ;) - which seems to be the point.
It was funny Lauren mentioned how complex his preparation was for the bacon cups - vegan eggs are over complicated to make lol.
I'd give vote for John over Lauren's though. Seemed a more interesting breakfast to try out.
bacon cups! fucking creative!
I never really liked Omelettes before going vegan.. But Johns cups looked AMAZING!! Definitely want to try that!
John won by a mile on this one
Made the omelette today....best vegan omelette recipe I've made! Thank you so much for a lovely recipe Lauren. John I'm trying your idea in the next couple of days. You two are so cute and post wonderful tasting recipes....thank you, really enjoy watching:)) Keep up the great work. You guys inspire me to stick to eating a plant based diet ( I'm a newbie...3 months now!)
Just made the breakfast cups, using the rice paper bacon around edge only. This too was a lovely recipe. I would make these quiches again ! You guys definitely fine turn recipes that are out there. If you create a cookbook, I'd pre-order for sure :) THANK YOU :)))))
I just love Lauren's honestly so funny
John's breakfast cup quiche thingys! Those look awesome
There's never enough pizza options John
I picked Lauren's dish, it looks tasty, I could make it in the morning with ease and head out. John's dish I could make the night before and reheat it but I don't like anything slimy and rice paper slims. Both dishes look wonderful, thank you both for sharing!
John wins! Very creative breakfast plate :)
Hey all! I think Lauren just doesn't like how realistic the mouth feel is. I'm the same way, I can't even eat sautéed mushrooms sometimes because the texture reminds me too much of shrimp or some kind of seafood.
Also guys, Lauren was critical of her own dish as well. If you looked you would understand. They both cook, so they are critical of themselves, and thats a trait most home cooks have, they always want to get better! I know when I cook for my BF he loves it but I'm just there like "ugh, this could be so much better!" Haha. Maybe Lauren and I have that perfectionist trait in common. Also, if you are fake with your loved one and tell them everything they do is good, how are you helping them grow as a person?
Love you both John and Lauren, you guys are like my virtual vegan parents who have helped me through so much!
Please keep up your amazing work.
proud of you ;)
John's bacon cups! I think the fact the rice paper looks and feels like skin is a plus because meat eaters would love it then!
She definitely tried to SABOTAGE. But I still vote for breakfast cups!!!!
They both were very good ideas! I think you could leave the rice paper bacon out and use a tomato on bottom with cheese. I have try them first. great job to both of you!
I never thought id see the day where HotForFood comments had drama......
I honestly cannot choose. They both look delicious!!!!
You guys are my new favourite channel
THANK YOU