@@jaex9617 Even sadder, the human-ape hybrid now sells timeshare holiday packages, lives with 4 flatmates, and really feels like he missed out on his true calling in life. Nice going mum.
David Marks I heard he accidentally got a girl pregnant somehow(???) and he now has to pay child support. Working for minimum wage it’s very hard for him to make ends meet, hence the 4 flatmates.
LOL! I wish WWII would have ended with Bormann driving this out of the Reich Chancellery's garage with Hitler on top wildly firing two captured Sten guns, one with each hand.
The logs are actually more to be used in cases where the tanks is getting stuck to roll under tracks for extra traction, rather than needing assistance to get out of a mess. Although they do provide minimal additional armor, not so much against high calibre but more against shoulder fired shaped charge weapons later in the war by creating a larger stand off distance from the armor. They do also protect to some degree from magnetic charges particularly grenades!
3:50 - The reason Finnish (and some German) Stugs carried logs was not primarily to act as extra armour. Rather, they were to assist if the vehicle got stuck in mud or snow - and you get a lot of both in Finland. The idea was that you lashed a log cross-ways to the tracks, and this would provide sufficient grip for the the vehicle to pull itself forward one length (by which time the log would be at the rear and would have to be untied). Repeat as necessary. The reason why Stugs in particular had logs strapped to them was because they were turretless. Logs strapped to a true tank would get in the way of turret rotation. Of course, if you ARE going to carry logs (and the Finns were never short of timber), you may as well use them as extra armour - in much the same way that spare track links were often fastened to a tank's front glacis plate.
Some German Stug crews copied the idea from the Finns or the Russians. It was more of a field improvisation than official doctrine - and was most prevalent during the Raspusitsa seasons (Spring thaw and Autumn rains) when Russian roads turned to mud. Stugs in particular had difficulty in mud, as they had narrower tracks than Russian tanks.
The Finns did use them as extra armour, even though they didn't actually work. Concrete didn't work either but the crews wanted any extra protection they could get.
Prior to invading the USSR, via trade agreements the Germans were getting all the oil they needed- as well as iron ore, manganese, etc. Barbarossa doomed their strategic war effort.
@@althesmith Operation Barbarossa was "necessary" because Stalin would have attacked on his own at some point. Hitler's failure as a statesman led to the disaster. A statesman would have negotiated peace with Poland and France instead of occupying them. That would have allowed him to make them allies (the French were really willing to do that). Then the British would have lost the reason they declared war on Germany in the first place, wouldn't have any chance against Germany _and_ France combined _and_ would have lost their influence on the continent. That way there would be no Western front (no US influence in Europe) and Germany could fully commit (and properly prepare) for Operation Barbarossa with an ally who actually knew how to do warfare. Yet, Hitler was a genocidal maniac, not a statesman.
@Alexander Challis You apparently don't know much about 20th Century tactical prowess. I suggest you read Trevor Dupuy's "A Genius for War:...." Only then will you be qualified to speak on what, right now, you know nothing about. Air power, numerical supremacy, and unfettered resupply won North Africa for the Allies not Allied "tactical supremacy". As much as your Ant-Wehrmacht bias shows... you really should educate yourself before speaking on subject matter.
I was in a WW2 Re-enactment Group in California, that had a StuG III. We all fell in love with the suspension, that was so smooth, like riding on a boat, and the interior was roomy and nice. It was a late production StuG III from Finland.
@@azmanabdula They had 13.2mm MG131/13 HMGs but they putted them on planes, got to say it was the most light HMG among it counterparts and it still was deadly. Germans tried to put a 20mm MG151/20 on the StuG's roof against lightly armored vehicles and infantry, but the idea was scrapped because someone had be outside to operate it and they needed all MG151s to planes
@@pasivaan9563 and SS Division Wiking, one of the most vile nazi gang in the history, is the third reason, lol. Have you ever checked Finland and Germany lost that war? Or, to be more precise, Finland was defeated and bought Stalin's favor back by attacking germans and transfering the nickel deposits to SU as a part of Paris Peace Treaties.
@@ФедяКрюков-в6ь Are you proud of the Molotov - Ribbenrtrop pact? Are you proud of what happened in Mainila on November 26, 1939 ? Finland retained its independence, unlike Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, etc. I think it's a victory
Zimmerit was placed on the metal fenders because an anti-tank mine placed there would blow off the track immobilizing the tank rendering it vulnerable.
@@elmee96 oh, if that is the case, it is due to the "HEAT" nature of the mine, which, upon detonation at the mudguard, would send a jet of hot metal downward, right into the track, breaking it off. If they place it near the track, such as at the suspension, road wheel etc, I believe it would actually get to the crew instead of the tracks...
And, when you've managed to get that close to an armored vehicle without being killed, it's probably best to place the mine anyplace it will stick and get away as quickly possible instead of being fussy, or trying to get a clean kill and loitering in the kill zone.
You are one of very few TH-cam content makers that don't nauseate the hell out of me with their cornball and mostly feeble attempts at humor. As I age, I find myself appreciating you more and more. Thank you for uploading this video as I have a fascination for the Stug 3's and 4's and variants. Unlike many men and boys I do not salivate over discussions of Panthers, Tigers and King Tigers. I much prefer the Stugs and Mk. 4 tanks as the true workhorses of the Wehrmacht.
I'm not finnish myself, but the whole thing about finland during WW2 really bugs me, they didn't start any war, they tried to be neutral, but got invaded by soviet union, they requested help from the allied nations since they didn't plan on joining hitlers war, but unfortunatly the rest of the allied nations like the US, England and so on refused to in any way help finland since it would upset the soviet union that they were suppose to be allied with to defeat the german threat. So finland did what anyone would have done and took what ever help they could, and this was only offered by the germans, so they recieved weapons and armoured viencles from the germans to fight off the soviet union and mannaged to do so quite well while the majority of soviets forces were facing off against Germany, ofcourse this benefitted germany making soviet have yet another front to fight alongside without sacrificing more german manpower. but Finland was only ever really defending them selves from an invasion, and successfully did so since they mannaged to not get claimed by the soviet union in the after match of the war much like most of eastern europe! how ever after the war finland got forced by the allied nations including US & England & France + Soviet union, to pay a war depth to the soviet union, a pretty hefty one at that even though they didn't start the war, neither did they ever invade anyone.. so yeah pretty big dick move by the so called " Heroes " of the WWII as many of those nations like to see them selves as..... Also Finland was also the only country that ever did pay their full dept back from the war aswell... so yeah.. There was one upside of this for finland, since most of the dept was agreed to be paid with industri productions to the USSR rather then finacial money, it did help finland get their industri going pretty quickly after the war, much faster then most other nations, and it helped them keep the industri much bigger and modernized compared to countries of same population in that area, and once the payment was done (think it was sometime in the 80's) from there on it was a big benefit for finland to already have a pretty hefty industri going on that they now could focus on making stuff for the free market and making some decent money.
victor's peace. there is no shame in fighting alongside Germany against the communist slavs. but alas, Germany lost, and as the friend of a defeated nation, Finland got shat on. next time, be better at fighting and win the war
Allied nations offered help to Finland, but it was difficult to land troops in support due to a lack of an ice-free route during winter, and not wanting to violate Norweigan and/or Swedish neutrality. The UK did plan for that option, then Norway was invaded. The Finns received a number of aircraft slightly before the Winter War started from the UK, France and USA.
When the Germans attacked Leningrad, they expected their Finn allies to continue the attack with them as they invaded the city, but the Finns stopped at their former border with Russia as they did not intend to capture any Russian territory.
my father was a stug driver in the finnish arny, thank you germany for delivering these to us. When my father had the money, then he bought himself a mercedes, if one has been used to KVALITÄT, then german is the only thing.
Jagdpanzer 38 never replaced StuG III. They were decided to both remain in production. StuG III monthly production continually increased from 1940 and peaked in 1945, basically when the factories were overrun.
Not to forget how Finns used to stop Soviet tanks by jamming pieces of wood between the tracks so it would dislodge and fall off. Takes some balls to do that too.
The StuG 3Gs served us very well in Finland. Partly thanks to them, Helsinki remained one of three European capital cities of the countries taking part in WWII, never to be invaded. The other two were London and Moscow.
Finland was a disgrace. Can't make up their minds which side they're on like Italy. If England had switched sides when they were losing, everyone would doing goose steps, straight arm salutes, and have gas chambers in each city. The Fins can stick their Stugs right up where the sun doesn't shine along with their hoooodraulic presses!
@@PreservationEnthusiast You useless excuse of a Troll, Finland asked for help to US/England in order to stop the ilegal Soviet invasion in their country (the USSR was attacking them for no reason), then the Allied forces said "fuck you" and Findland was left ALONE to fight the Red Army. The ONLY ONES who offered help were the Germans and at that time FInland took the only chance they had to avoid being eaten alive by the USSR. Finland only wanted to be left alone, but the USSR first invaded them in the "winter war", then Finland took a counter attack against the Soviets with the end result of so many looses for the Red Army that Stalin was forced to make a deal with Finland, in return the nation turned it's German weapons against the Germans and from that point onwards it was left alone for good being practically the ONLY nation that fought and won its independence against the USSR wich was expanding its territory like a plage over Europe.
@@PointReflex There was no way the allies, though many of them wanted to, could offer effective help to Finland. They already had Germany for an enemy. They didn't need the USSR too
@@PointReflex it's not that simple. Finland was part of Russian Empire. after 1917 the whole country fell apart and civil war broke out. at this stage every village was it's own country. Finland had also declared its independence but fell into a civil war between finnish communists and a fascist monarchist Mannerheim (who actually was an fanatical supporter of Russian Czar). By 1940s Stalin had started to put the country back together, which lead to a border dispute with Finland.
Can you please tell me what that small helmet like thing is at 2:06 because I've searched the internet with "hooded headlamp" and all sorts of other key words but found no result as to what it is as I see this thing quite a lot in German tanks
I suspect most British people (the ones who don't watch Lindybeige) would be surprised to learn that within living memory their country declared war on, and bombed, Finland.
Other surprises might include the British declaration of war on Thailand in 1942, and the British invasion of neutral Iceland in 1940. They really got around.
Australia, too. New Zealand? Commonwealth countries. I still haven't forgiven the aussies, and take every opportunity to remind them of the Emu War. /jest
@@ServantofBaal Gunners and drivers worked as a team and the STUG-III could line up to it's target very fast. If they had not worked well, then why did they make so many, and why did they destroy the most enemy vehicles?
Good video on the StuG III. There's a couple of corrections I'd like to make, though: Those peepholes are for the driver's periscope in case he wants to drive with the armoured glass viewport covered. Also, all panzers were kept in red oxide below the fenders. The Germans were never "low on paint"; the last tanks to leave factories were still finished in complex, factory-done paint schemes. And no, no tanks ever left a factory in red primer. In late 1944 they ordered the insides to be left hull red entirely, but they went back to painting the off-white in early 1945. The Germans running out of paint is a myth. 1299 of the StuG III were actually "StuH", Sturmhaubitze, with howitzers and another 24 were built as StuIG 33B. "Zimmermint" had me though. Lol. It's also more barium sulfate powder and sawdust than it is glue.
Panzermeister36 After 1941 *all* German tanks left the factory in a single exterior colour. Camo was applied at the unit level depending on arrival season and theatre. The base colours switched over time from a grey-green to a sand-green to a primer red.
...no. German camouflages were factory-applied two-tone grey and brown until between 1938 and 1940, depending on the vehicle (StuG III Ausf.A, Ausf.A2, and the first two months of Ausf.B production all had two-tone camouflages applied from the factory). Brown was also field-applied on tanks before the battle of France in 1940,if the tanks were only grey. Colour photos show this. Black and white don't since red-brown looks grey-black in orthochromatic film. We now use panchromatic for black and white so that's no longer as true. Then tanks were base coated in grey until February 1943 when it was switched to dark yellow. Before then, there were various tropical schemes as well which were also used in Russia; StuG III Ausf.F/8 were painted in Tropen 2 (RAL7027/8020) and fought at Kharkov in the winter of 1942-43. Desert camouflage in the Russian Winter, before dark yellow was introduced...since they were painted in the factory originally for north Africa. Once again, original paint orders and photographs prove this. Tropen 1 and 2 were both two-tone, factory-applied camouflages. Tropen 1 is what you see on Tiger 131. In late 1944, around August, tanks were deployed in factory-applied camouflages. This is evidenced by original documents, photos, and the fact that all tanks has the exact same camouflage pattern with negligible variations in camouflage lines. This was continued up until the end of the war. No tank ever left a factory in red primer. Red primer was also never left exposed in the place of Rotbraun paint. This is once again well documented. There are also no photos of tanks deployed in primer. It's a myth created by model tank builders.
So, *all* German tanks were only deployed in a single colour between 1940 and 1941, and that is grey. After '41, they were possibly deploying them from the factory in multicolored camouflages depending on the theater, mainly Africa, and possibly single coloured yellow from February 1943 to August 1944. Other than that, everything was two- or three-tone camo.
Panzermeister36 If you want to argue about it then take it up with the Tank Museum. Or my grandfather who worked in a factory producing StuG IV and JagdPanzer IV. They both say you're wrong.
I trust photographs, official documents, and surviving unrestored tank wrecks and parts more than 70+ year old hazy memories that are not your own and yet you were able to bring up in 6 minutes.
@@azmanabdula they had been saying they were going to add stuff like that for years but never have. One reason why I stopped playing a couple of years ago
Magnetic mine on the mudguard would break the tread. It would be a much more effective attack than standing directly in front of it and trying to attack its thickest armor.
Actually Hans Zimmer's father was the inventor Hans Joachim Zimmer who pioneered the manufacturing of synthetic fibre. He founded the Zimmer AG in Frankfurt am Main. Zimmer & Co in Berlin was founded by Louis Zimmer, I don't think they are closely related.
Ps 531-44 "Maija" is on display at the Finnish armour museum in Parola, close to Hämeenlinna. Interesting museum. They've got an armoured train and plenty of other rare stuff as well.
This particular Stug, Ps 531-44 "Maija", is at the Bovington tank museum in England. Parola does have two Stugs on display though, Ps. 531-45 and Ps. 531-18 "Kirsti", which by the way is still in running order!
@@WilliamJones-Halibut-vq1fs > T-34 > Excellent are you fcking kidding me, my grand fathers brother drove one of those and said that those things were absolutely miserable
Olson323 What did he say was “miserable” about them? I’m only going of Soviet test reports (it was only excellent some aspects of mobility I think in getting in and back out of ditches). The StuG III was probably a poor tank (gaps in armour around the gun, no turret) when misused in that way but it was designed as a self propelled gun, easy to hide, that would be part of the infantry. Both the German 7.5cm field gun and AT gun weighed 1.5 tons and would need a half track to position them anyway so you may as well eliminate the half track.
@@WilliamJones-Halibut-vq1fs Very bad visibility from inside. Horrible quality sights, and something about ventilation - after each shot, inside was filled with gasses further limiting visibility. Hull was somewhat too small - crew was to tightly packed and couldnt operate freely. Everething was of bad quality, half assed, parts very badly fitting togedher. Tank was cost effective and did its role, but calling it excellent is absolutely wrong. First i thought that soviets gave worse quality t-34 to their "allies" but i read a lot about the subject lately, and seemingly their own crews had the same problems. We even have proverb saying about being "as fucked as inside russian tank" and i suspect that it was born inside T-34, because other russian tanks we ever had were T-55s and T-72s and those had generally favorable opinion in their time
Did they use a waffle iron to make that "Zimmerit"? Time for a Zimmerit video. And how it's still used today, my city covers outdoor elecrical cabinets with it as an anti-poster paint but the design looks very much like midwar German Zimmerit. Just do it for the word Zimmerit, i would love to hear you say Zimmerit more often. lovely word, ins't it? Zimmerit.
Long story short, Zimmermit is applied like a paste and a special tool gives it the texture, German's figured out the only people issuing magnetic anti tank mines on mass......,where the Germans themselves, and stopped putting it on their tanks later into the war.
They say that 10500 Stugs were built. They managed to destroy 20 000 enemy tanks... Just two tanks per each one... Not too many! What happened to them then?! They got killed themselves... Too many Stugs were destroyed and left to rust as a scrap metal in Russia. And their crews went underground to feed worms.
Jim lastname yeah Stug life was a meme a long time before MHV, also, Hetzers gonna Hetz was another one. In World of Tanks you can mount both the Stug and Hetzer with the short barreled 105mm gun and just spam HEAT and HE, a so-called "troll gun". I first heard them in the context of World of Tanks.
Ahhh, a stug. Finns loved those things and put them to good use against russians. They stayed in finnish army after the war and were still used in the 60's as trainer tanks. I believe this stug here is even in finnish colours, right? Beautiful beast
Also the designation of Ps. 531 is a Finnish army designation. All tanks get a designation of Ps. and a number as far as I know. The number after the dash - is the number of the individual tank.
Except for when he talked about the Spandau. And global warming. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love his videos, but on occasion his nationalism, conceit or sheer bloody-mindedness gets in the way of his logical thinking and basic humility.
@@alexismcloughlin5383 I'm not upset by it per se, I think it inhibits people's capacity to think rationally as well as to empathise with people not belonging to their group. It's an outdated mode of thinking that has no place in a globalised world in which we are all interconnected. And I believe it's the root for a lot of racism, violence and arrogance.
You never make mistakes. You just have an inordinately large number of learning opportunities. I'm guessing that's how you got to be so knowledgeable about the world and so willing to shoot off onto new and exciting tangential subjects related to whatever main topic that you're covering. You're videos are brilliant! Keep up the great work! Best of luck on October 31!👍👍
Philip Bossy that's what i always think when someone says 'third reich'. it's either 'third empire' or 'drittes reich', but 'third reich' doesn't make any sense at all.
montanus777 'Third Reich' (or Second or First) is just the accepted term in the historical community. I speak 3 languages from 3 different linguistic families and in every one of them the word 'Reich' doesn't get translated when people talk about the Third Reich. The same reason that people don't translate Khan or Buddha or Soviet.
I'm pretty sure the logs were used to help move stuck vehicle from mud and swamp or other rough terrain. You would put them in front and drive over. Soviets had tree logs on every tank really for that very purpose.
"You don't carry six massive logs for that purpose." Why not? It works. And when you're not using them for traction, it doubles as extra armor! Incredibly high tech multi purpose thing ,wood!
2:48 . No, that is not idiotic. It will knock out the treads, the tank can only use the turret then but not move. It is a sitting duck. Strategy taught to this day, guerilla warfare against sophisticated tanks. Ex-tank grenadier here sending his regards.
Could you make a video about Finnish-Nazi-German relations during the second world war? I feel like most people have an extremely black and white idea about the subject, including the Finnish use of the swastika (Which we used before Nazi Germany). Love your content, keep it up!
kala captain I know, just didn't feel like it's worth mentioning since i was talking about the Finnish usage of it. Im somewhat tired of people who think Finns are Nazis cause of it (We still use it in some flags etc.). Thats an intresting fact though, never heard of it!
Rolexi I think that this hate against all swastikas is quite stupid. Afterall its one of the simplest and most universal symbols after a circle, square, cross etc. Therefore its no wonder that quite a many cultures have used swastikas as symboles. Now black tilted swastika on a white circle and red background is a different thing.
Let's start by calling it by the proper name, Hekken Kruz. I dont know what the Finns call their version. Swastika is a british given name never used by germans.
The actual word "swastika" derives from Sanskrit thousands of years before any nazis. And if you mean the German name for the symbol stolen by nazis, it is Hakenkreutz. Strange you mentioned this, as your nickname would suggest you are of Indian descent and thus aware of the history.
Actual Hitler had ordered army ordenance to supply the Pzkmpf III with 60 mm guns from the beginning however germans factories was not able to produce them in significants amounts so it was never archived. And when they were able to deliver they were obselete against the t-34. The germans then tried to discus using tungstencore in the ammunition howerver there were shortage of this too. So after the t-34 showed up on the scene the hole chaissi of Pzkmpf III was outdated as tank mount. But Guderian had from the beginning asked for tracked infantery antitank guns and support artellery so that was doomed to be the role of Pzkmpf schaissies form then on as a stop gap solution.
And you can make them in the same factorys that did Panzer III widout needed to uppgrade most of its machinetools, as the case if you want to change to make the bigger Panzer IV.
You are spot one there. It was alwas a matter of production facilities and raw materials and man power hours needed and price. Actual there were a meeting where Hitler and Guderian participated and all but Guderian agreed in shifting to production of Panther only and drop production of what ever version of Pzkmpf III and IV until Guderian said "so you will stop production of tanks in 2 months and end up that you only can send a handfull of Tiger I to the eastfront in those 2 months?... As you know Guderian got it his way and a more slowprogressing plan was done before all tank producing factories had changed their machenery to only produce. When the Pzkmpf III factory was bombed it was decieded to mount the StuG casemate on Pzkmpf IV chassi as well just to be sure to be able to send some stugs to the front in favour of the more or less obselete Pzkmpf IV G-J with tower. Next step was that the germas even they liked the Panther had to realise that they needed even more standartzation so they started to look into the E tank concept were so many parts as posibble was going to be used on whatever tracked wagon the german army would buy. This plan never started production but part it got implemented and Tiger II and Hetzer had adopted some features from this concept.
Fun fact when Lindy was born the sweater was already on...it has now completely fused to his body and he has become one with the sweater..during childhood the other kids would play ball, but good ole lindy would give lectures on world war 2 to his sweater, his only true friend...
Why Zimmerit on the mudguard? Simple, to reduce the chance of a magnetic shaped charge to damage the tracks (they already were pretty overworked on the StuG III because of the high weight).
Zimmerit was rather useless on a whole anyways, the people who used magnetic mines the most where......the Germans themselves. That's why really only early and mid war tanks even have it, at some point they stopped putting it on their tanks, a good half of all panthers never even had it.
4:08 Our president at the time, Risto Ryti, didn't like the nazis, but we were heavily dependent on them to fight the soviets. So Ryti promised alliance to them, knowing he didn't have the authority to do that and was essentially committing a treason. That fooled Hitler and he kept giving us support but eventually we abandoned the axis and made peace with the USSR. Ryti was condemned and thrown into jail. Rumor says that all the prisoners stood at attention whenever he walked by. Did I mention Finns have a reputation of being exceptionally trustworthy?
My oldest son was an exchange student in Oulu , Finland from America and said when he came back home he would return to Finland if he ever got another chance. Said the people and government is the most honest in the whole world. Too, he likes to fish and like the lures made by Rapala.
why are you so sensitive about the fact that Finland fought as an ally of Germany? There is no shame. The Finnish nation, with the aid of Germany, fought bravely against the communist Russians. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Finland's enemy was the USSR, and the USSR's enemy was Germany. Alas, Germany and Finland lost the war, and both nations got shat on post-war. toughen up and win next time
@@commentsandlikes9509 This is so true. The Suomi people had to do what they had to do. England and France weren't coming to their aid. Unlike most all Eastern European countries that bordered the CCCP, Finland managed to remain free and sovereign even if they had to forfeit lands and remain neutral and not part of NATO during the Cold War.
FINLAND WAS AN ALLY OF NAZI GERMANY Saying so otherwise is blatant historical revisionism. Finland cooperated very closely with Germany during the planning of Operation Barbarossa. Finnish forces cooperated heavily with army group north in the area of Leningrad, and German and Finnish forces were fully integrated in the carrying out of military operations in northern Finland. Risto Ryti did not commit any treason whatsoever. His personal guarantee not to agree to an armistice with the Soviet Union was intentionally done by him and Mannerheim, so that Finland would not technically be violating any agreements with Germany when it did seek peace with the Soviets, as all he had to do was resign and they would be void. One of the conditions of the armistice was that certain Finnish "war criminals" selected by the Soviets had to be improsoned, and this included Ryti. Finland very reluctantly imprisoned him after making constitutional changes and creating bogus charges that would allow them to imprison him in order to comply with the Soviets, and he eventually recieved a pardon.
Or at least what it looks like. A nice feature also shared by Japanese. Probably most languages that don't consist of random words from different languages thrown together.
The finns did not change sides because of politics, they changed sides because it was part of the only peace deal they could get against Britains pals the USSR.
The Suomi people , everyone else calls them Finns, were caught between two larger warring nations. They had to chose the lesser of two Devils since there would be no help to this small democracy from England or France. They survived, they loss land to Russia and lives to both Soviet Russia and Nazi Germany but they survived as a nation and neutral state during the Cold War when so many Eastern European nations were forced into being puppet communist states of the CCCP.
But just imagine if they used all that steel from those10,000 StuGs to make just one really big huge tank! The whole German army could've hopped inside, driven into Moscow, walloped Stalin on the head, job done! Speer really missed a trick with that one.
comradesomo and which bridge will carry it or how will you defend it from aerial bombs or why stugs why not panthers or tigers stug was best afv for germans
Well its tracks will be SO BIG that it can cross any river and barely get wet. As for defending it, that will be completely unnecessary, as I imagine the Russians would just see the thing and run away in fear like the lily-livered cowards they are instead of even trying to fight it. As for Panthers and Tigers, well they should just be welded to the hull as ablative armour.
There were plans to build the "Ratte" mounting the tower from a battleship with trippel 250 mm guns. Hower what your fantasy seems not to notice that there were no capasity in Germany to produce an engine there were big enoufgh. And if you are really interested in this topic. All countries during the struggled with this simple facts that there were limitations to how big engine they could massproduce. And Yes logistics at that time was a major issus since nobody at that time too was able to produce a tank there could drive very far. Actual the first version of Panther tank was only able to drive 100 km before it had to have a major overhault.
They tried that a few times. Didn't work out. The turret from the largest one they were able to make a semblance of a prototype of wound up being used as a costal defence gun.
First of all thanks for a very entertaining vid! as usual if i might say. Hope you will continue making them. I have though two minor things I'd like to adress - 2:37 Detonating a magnetic mine on the tracks mud guard would render the vehicle immovable and vulnerable/dead - thus the coating on the mud guard - 4:12 The Finns did not change sides! They were on their own side. They drove the Germans out of Finland accordingly to the peace treaty with the soviet. A little like if you have two bullies in the school yard who hate each other. One of them starts on you too, and of cause you go together with the other against your enemy. The Germans were not a threat to the Finns (for now - they might have been later after a victory). The soviets though were to every one - look at later history (app. 60mio russians killed by their own leaders) continoue. I have the utmost admiration for the Finns and their Sisu. They lost app. 80.000 young men in the two wars they fought. And because of that they stayed independent. Don't forget they knew that the soviet demands were only the beginning of making them a vasal state. They claimed independent december 1917 and were dragged into a soviet induced bitter civil war. They knew that in order to stay free they had to do "what ever" I hope every country would fight like that for their country - then no war would be fought ~ Si vis pacem para bellum
...But if there's one thing Germans hate it is when their enemies use stolen German equipment against them. ...And I suppose they might have prepared for the possibility that others would also develop magnetic tank mines.
is that really necessary? First, I don't Yiff, Second, I'm not a fag. And being a brony is one small facet of my life. I've studied history (primarily Maritime) and I only wish to raise an interesting point with the Zimmerit coating protecting tanks from a uncommon type of anti-tank weapon. I don't appreciate hat comments and I sure many others don't like them either.
Sorry if this has already been said. Finland did not change sides. It fought the USSR on it's own; then joined with Nazi Germany to fight the USSR again (which meant they were enemies of the US and Britain and her Commonwealth). Then Finland abandoned Hitler, made peace with Stalin; and ended up fighting the Germans. At no time was she on the Allied side, just her own.
I counted two changes of side in your own reply. First change: neutral to axis ("...joined with Nazi Germany"). Second change: from axis to allied ("...abandoned Hitler") - or neutral, if you prefer that instead of allied. No one said the side changing would be just from allies to axis or vice versa.
Neutral is not a side, it is an independent state of being; independent from the sides in any conflict. In Europe in the last World War there were only two sides; Axis or Allied. Finland was an enemy of the Allies when they attacked the Soviets at the start of Barbarossa (and Churchill wrote personally to Mannerheim begging him not to do so). When Finland made peace with Stalin they did not side with the Allies. Their later fight with the Germans was forced on them but coincidental. As an aside. It was also the conflict that killed the only member of my family that died fighting for Finland; which makes the Timonen's of Salmi one of the luckiest large families in Finland.
Finn here. We weren't part of the axis but we WERE fighting on the side of the Germans, the fact that Germans attacked against Murmansk and the Murmansk railroad from Finnish soil with Finnish forces reinforcing them is proof enough. But we were careful not to call Germans allies and Hitler noticed this. And we did change sides, Risto Ryti (president of Finland) promised Hitler personally that Finland would not negotiate a separate peace in return for a deal for arms and ammunition with which we stopped the last Soviet assault. After that Ryti became the greatest stateman ever by resigning so Finland could negotiate a separate peace, After which USSR forced us to declare war on Germany. TL;DR We weren't part of the Axis but neither were we fighting a separate war. Calling us Axis would warrant calling us Allies too since we fought against the Germans too.
How noble you are my good sir. Admitting to ones flaws is never easy, but it does indicate a person of good character 👍 Really enjoy your content, I am glad to have found your channel.
I had no purpose in life. Then I met StuG. StuG was wise and when only one set of footprints was in the sand it was StuG that carried me. Then I became wise and carried my team. Some of them went on to be chosen by StuG. Others joined the order of Hetzer. Of those that chose Hetzer the wisest were bestowed upon with 10.5cm holiness. And Serb saw that this was good. And all stats rejoiced.
if the track is damaged then the mud guard guarding it being blow up along with the tread then BOOM and you have a one legged tank...Or a one treaded tank
Correct. This little very british guy in all his videos says something that is not correct. I am really wondering why anybody wants to see his videos since it is obvious that he often says something there is not correct.
People watch his stuff because hes funny and enthusiastic, not because he is a perfect documentary. I agree though that a lot of mistakes could be avoided if he just asked someone at the Museum (or owner in case of the 2 StuGs on the field, which are privately owned I assume) to clarify a few obvious things.
Then why is there zimmerit only on the front and rear mudguard sections of the fender, and not on the rest of the fender? They also applied zimmerit to the toolbox on StuGs, which would itself act as spaced armour if they tried to mount a magnetic mine there. Also, MIAG-built StuG III (ones in video are all ALKETT-factory builds) don't have any zimmerit on the whole engine deck or rear of the casemate/superstructure. It doesn't make much sense how they applied zimm.
They only applied Zimmerit to vertical or close to vertical surfaces (which apparently means more or less diagonal ones too), so its natural that near horizontal surfaces like the top of the fenders would be left without Zimmerit. I guess the assumption was that noone would be able to reach onto the top of the tank (or below it) to place the mine, and that vertical surfaces were thus more susceptible to such attacks.
2:37 I reckon it's because if a magnetic mine does go bang on the mudguard the wrecked guard could get caught in the track or in its guide wheels and bugger up the manoeuvrability
The early model StuG was built by a guy in the UK from a wreck, and he did a LOVELY facebook page showing the entire restoration. He also brought a Marder III to Tankfest this year. Most of that particular tank is original, although it has the drivetrain from a British AFV (original StuG engines are a tad hard to find and get parts for), and he had to hand fabricate a lot of it (including those hinges you were so impressed by...hand made from blocks of steel, and fully documented on his page!). Here's a link to the facebook page that covered it: facebook.com/StugIIIAusfDRestoration/
Ooh hey I know how Maija ended up in Bovington! She was traded for couple of british tanks (dont ask me which I cant remember) by the finnish tank museum at Parola. I heard the story from the head of the Parola museum while he gave us a tour of the place last year.
One little (but perhaps significant) detail: Lindybeige says: "This particular tank was issued to the Finns". The word 'issued' implies that it was given to the Finns, while they were fighting alongside the Germans. In reality, Finland bought and paid for all the equipment it got from Germany, including the Messerschmitt Bf 109s, the 8.8 cm flak guns, or indeed the Stugs. Each Stug, purchased between 1943 and 1944 cost the Finnish government 165,000 Reichmark, which is double (!) the manufacturing price mentioned in this video. This indicates that even though Finland and Germany were fighting a mutual enemy, their relationship wasn't exactly a full-on military alliance, and no such governmental pact was ever signed.
thanks for that point however, we don't actually give any weapons away free to any of our current allies so what is then the point that is being made about them having to pay?
@@DarkShroom The Soviets overwhelmingly didn't pay for the land-lease equipment they received, and whenever they did, it was symbolic only. And AFAIK the Romanian divisions in Stalingrad were fully supplied by the Germans. So this whole modern thing of not helping your allies is just that, a modern thing. It was a war. There's no such global war going on at the moment. So making a random internet comment about people not giving stuff for free now, meant that no one got stuff for free during the war? Yeah, no.
A lot of axis countries used it. Italy generally produced it's own vehicles and it may surprise some to know that they had exceptional tank destroyers, but the one thing they did willingly use from Germany was the stug G.
@@D4rkstorn Soviets sent a lot of resources back, precious metals. There's a whole ship full of platinum from the USSR at the bottom a ways off the coast of my state. But generally speaking, they got a lot. But the allied factories made a lot, employed a lot of people, and got out of the depression, which Germany got out of in 1934 and had no unemployment by 1936, still with essentially no military to speak of relative to others. That's why the generals freaked out when Hitler retook their own territory being used by France in the Rhineland, where most of the industrial capacity was. Because if France wanted, they could steamroll right back in at the time.
you could run up and put potatoes in the exhaust pipes and stall the tank out??? I heard rumors that it works on cars of pesky neighbors??? But only rumors...
I'd say it's a bit unfair to say that the finns 'changed sides'. When the finns signed the peace treaty with the USSR, one of Soviet demands was that Finland would remove the german forces from its land. However there was no haste, or even great deal of will to drive off the Germans whom they had fought side by side with not too long ago and this mentality carried on for most of the Lapland war (War between Finland and Germany in WW2). Only after the Soviets got really annoyed with the Finns just letting the Germans go back on their own pace and will, they arm twisted the finnish military to drive them out by force. This did increase the intesity of the fighting between Finns and Germans, but it still wasn't exactly an outright war as one would understand. Even today most of the Finns are greatful to the German assistance against the Soviets during the Continuation War, so although there was some fighting, I still think it's bit extreme to call it 'changing sides'.
personally, i think it's a crime that Finland was allowed to go on as if nothing happen after the war. the Finnish government should have been removed and Mannerheim should have been hung for war crimes, due to his actions in 1917 civil war and due to him assisting germans during Leningrad blockade (where thousands of people had starved to death)
I always shake my head when commentary states that the reason for the color variation across a demarcation line was due to paint shortages... not true. they did it because the fighting compartment was above the sponsons and would need to be illuminated to maneuver the rounds inside and when the hatch is open it would appear dark from above. Most German tanks were painted this way with the exception being open top variants.
Amigo, you are a awesome teller. You'r video's are great and your information isn't copied or just filling up the time. You don't have any fancy music in the background, what is great and you don't try to make a show of it, you'r just yourself making a vid. about tanks. You are good.
A shaped charge (magnetic mine) on the mudgaurd would quite possibly damage the track and/or drive sprocket and cause a mobility kill. And you don'thave to stand quite as much in teh buttoned down crews LOS. And once you have an M kill the darn thing is much easier to attack. Or ignore. BTW a turret does not pivot, it traverses. A gun pivots on it's trunnions. I love a stug too. Actually found a half built 1/35 Stug when I moved house recently. I think I'll have to dig out the paints and glue and finish it, 'specially since I have a room I can put that kind of thing on display now. Thanks for reminding me. Love your work.
This be a Finnish service vehicle. I'm sure many have commented on this, since it's pretty obvious from the logs, which was more common in Finnish use compared to the Germans, but also this: The concrete addon armor is also a Finnish standard trick to do for a Stug, i don't think it was that common on the German vehicles. They were used more offensively, as "actual" tanks rather than tank destroyers in this scenario, so any additional frontal armor was a big deal. They were *quite* successful against Soviet T-34's in this role, not just as mere ambush weapons. Zimmerit was also not applied to Finnish tanks, but some of the Stugs had it on when received. But not all. Furthermore, a lot of Stugs still in existence in museums etc. are actually Finnish models repainted in German markings and camouflage, which is a source of endless confusion; They differ from German models in minute detail, like the concrete armor on the casemate. /E: As far as the armor skirts go, most / all of the Stugs were actually equipped with them originally. But they were removed. Probably because they made the vehicles wider, and the Soviets weren't that heavy on rocket propelled grenades to begin with.
StuG is short for Sturmgeshutz, i.e. assault gun. It's not Finnish, but German, and just a contraction just like Jabo is a contraction of the words for fighter (Jager) and bomber.
The Stug is honestly my favourite ww2 vehicle. Not favourite tank, mind you, because a Sturmgeschütz is not a tank. I even have a Cobi model of the ausführung A (I think) in Afrika korps livery! They are just perfect little thingies if you want to support infantry (which I think is pretty important) or make a tank into a swiss cheese (not so cool, but eh). If anyone wants to know, my perfect tank would be a Stug 3, with a sloped front (there were plans for a Panzer IV with this, so why not?) and an American M3 75mm gun. Plus a few details. Perfection in my eyes
The Finns never changed sides, they always fought the soviets. In 1944 they've signed a separate peace treaty and got out of the war, remaining a "neutral" country to this day. So you can see that there was a democracy fighting alongside Nazi Germany, albeit with special emergency powers given to Marshal Mannerheim because of the existing state of war.
"It's a complicated thing, politics."
*pats armored fighting vehicle*
Lucius Seneca
You call Wehrmacht politics?
Went mad, on TH-cam levels......
Lucius Seneca war is the continuation of politics by other means
@@xiaolili1971 Ah, I see you, too, have read your Clausewitz.
Hehehe
Useful for jamming up drive sprockets
Fiendishly clever of the Finns to disguise their Stug as a self propelled log cabin...
A sauna, obviously.
rofl!
Aren't logs used to get a tank unstuck?
Amitabha Kusari well the russians carried a piece of wood on their back for that exact purpose and as far as i know its still commong practice
The Finns used also logs to get russian tanks stuck
"please be forgiving of this model, I made it when I was 11" dude... when I was eleven I learned how to make lego cars!
@@jaex9617 Even sadder, the human-ape hybrid now sells timeshare holiday packages, lives with 4 flatmates, and really feels like he missed out on his true calling in life. Nice going mum.
I started model making when I was 11
That is Finnish Stug III G.
I built MY first model(an F-4) at age seven
David Marks I heard he accidentally got a girl pregnant somehow(???) and he now has to pay child support. Working for minimum wage it’s very hard for him to make ends meet, hence the 4 flatmates.
Concrete on a Tank?!
"Hans can we use our new Stug?"
"No frank it has to cure at least 2 more days"
It was done more often than you think. I saw even Shermans with concrete.
A very cheap, easy field modification
The Russian modern tanks have Ceramic Armors which are really similiar. Then they strap explosives to that to act as "reactive armor".
@@OldSchoolGM94 what do you imply? That Russia cannot afford RE?
FRANK is not german name. UWE, JUERGEN, KLAUS, etc...but FRANK NO. :))))))
You didn't choose Stug life, the Stug life chose you.
LOL! I wish WWII would have ended with Bormann driving this out of the Reich Chancellery's garage with Hitler on top wildly firing two captured Sten guns, one with each hand.
Stuggin' ain't easy.
Wanton Stugery
@@travis5125 why would they use captured weapons when Germany made copies of the Sten during WWII.
Sthug life
The logs are actually more to be used in cases where the tanks is getting stuck to roll under tracks for extra traction, rather than needing assistance to get out of a mess. Although they do provide minimal additional armor, not so much against high calibre but more against shoulder fired shaped charge weapons later in the war by creating a larger stand off distance from the armor. They do also protect to some degree from magnetic charges particularly grenades!
Yea the logs are used for getting out of mess
3:50 - The reason Finnish (and some German) Stugs carried logs was not primarily to act as extra armour. Rather, they were to assist if the vehicle got stuck in mud or snow - and you get a lot of both in Finland. The idea was that you lashed a log cross-ways to the tracks, and this would provide sufficient grip for the the vehicle to pull itself forward one length (by which time the log would be at the rear and would have to be untied). Repeat as necessary.
The reason why Stugs in particular had logs strapped to them was because they were turretless. Logs strapped to a true tank would get in the way of turret rotation.
Of course, if you ARE going to carry logs (and the Finns were never short of timber), you may as well use them as extra armour - in much the same way that spare track links were often fastened to a tank's front glacis plate.
Not only Finnish and German tanks carried logs. In fact you can find them predominantly on Russian tanks.
Actually...name me a german tank that carried a log on a regular basis. I have never seen that.
Some German Stug crews copied the idea from the Finns or the Russians. It was more of a field improvisation than official doctrine - and was most prevalent during the Raspusitsa seasons (Spring thaw and Autumn rains) when Russian roads turned to mud. Stugs in particular had difficulty in mud, as they had narrower tracks than Russian tanks.
The Finns did use them as extra armour, even though they didn't actually work. Concrete didn't work either but the crews wanted any extra protection they could get.
That was A reason, yes, but you wouldn't carry six massive logs for this purpose.
Oil - Germany's deadliest enemy.
@Repeat After Me: Ooh, that one has to smart...
oil- germanys deadliest enemy
U.S. *heavy breathing*
Prior to invading the USSR, via trade agreements the Germans were getting all the oil they needed- as well as iron ore, manganese, etc. Barbarossa doomed their strategic war effort.
@@althesmith
Operation Barbarossa was "necessary" because Stalin would have attacked on his own at some point.
Hitler's failure as a statesman led to the disaster.
A statesman would have negotiated peace with Poland and France instead of occupying them. That would have allowed him to make them allies (the French were really willing to do that). Then the British would have lost the reason they declared war on Germany in the first place, wouldn't have any chance against Germany _and_ France combined _and_ would have lost their influence on the continent. That way there would be no Western front (no US influence in Europe) and Germany could fully commit (and properly prepare) for Operation Barbarossa with an ally who actually knew how to do warfare.
Yet, Hitler was a genocidal maniac, not a statesman.
@Alexander Challis You apparently don't know much about 20th Century tactical prowess. I suggest you read Trevor Dupuy's "A Genius for War:...." Only then will you be qualified to speak on what, right now, you know nothing about. Air power, numerical supremacy, and unfettered resupply won North Africa for the Allies not Allied "tactical supremacy". As much as your Ant-Wehrmacht bias shows... you really should educate yourself before speaking on subject matter.
I was in a WW2 Re-enactment Group in California, that had a StuG III. We all fell in love with the suspension, that was so smooth, like riding on a boat, and the interior was roomy and nice. It was a late production StuG III from Finland.
If only germany had thought of having higher calibre machine guns
A 12-15 mm on top would have been a great addition
PS im not gonna lie, im jealous
@@azmanabdula They had 13.2mm MG131/13 HMGs but they putted them on planes, got to say it was the most light HMG among it counterparts and it still was deadly. Germans tried to put a 20mm MG151/20 on the StuG's roof against lightly armored vehicles and infantry, but the idea was scrapped because someone had be outside to operate it and they needed all MG151s to planes
@@k_balu-8104 Just seems like something that would have made tank crews lives a little easier
Scott Ruggels Was that the time you were all in light Afrika Korps kit and it SNOWED? How you doing, Scottster?
@@azmanabdula Well, comfort for cannon fodder during the in-continent European colonial wars wasn’t the point, was it?
The StuG III is probably the reason I speak Finnish as a mother tongue instead of Russian
luulisin että mannerheimillä oli enenmän kuin yks temppu taskussa :)
Detachment Kuhlmey is another reason.
Lol, StuG III taught you finnish?
@@pasivaan9563 and SS Division Wiking, one of the most vile nazi gang in the history, is the third reason, lol. Have you ever checked Finland and Germany lost that war? Or, to be more precise, Finland was defeated and bought Stalin's favor back by attacking germans and transfering the nickel deposits to SU as a part of Paris Peace Treaties.
@@ФедяКрюков-в6ь Are you proud of the Molotov - Ribbenrtrop pact? Are you proud of what happened in Mainila on November 26, 1939 ?
Finland retained its independence, unlike Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, etc. I think it's a victory
Zimmerit was placed on the metal fenders because an anti-tank mine placed there would blow off the track immobilizing the tank rendering it vulnerable.
but why would they place the mine there and not near the tracks. still doesn't make sense lol
@@elmee96 the tracks move, which could potentially roll the mine over, and sort of making it a dud should it not detonate
@@HaZETaipan i said near the tracks not on them
@@elmee96 oh, if that is the case, it is due to the "HEAT" nature of the mine, which, upon detonation at the mudguard, would send a jet of hot metal downward, right into the track, breaking it off. If they place it near the track, such as at the suspension, road wheel etc, I believe it would actually get to the crew instead of the tracks...
@@HaZETaipan yes and that is better. Without crew the tank is useless
"Be forgiving of the model he made when he was 11."
I'm 31, and I WISH I had that kind of modeling skill
I didn't choose Stug life
*Stug life chose me*
Haha. Gold.
you everywere
i didn't choose stug life
*i was drafted by wehrmarcht*
Said the Panzer III
Living in an Armoured Paradise.
3:11
Stug III: "Oh, Lindy, is that a Panzergranate in your trousers, or are you just happy to see me?"
ROFL
Lmao
Either way, please don't set it off.
Stug III horny
@@thegrandcoffein6928
Hon Y soit, qui mal y pense.
I think that sweater could withstand significant punishment
It's the biggest sweater I've ever seen. I'm curious to know whether it came with tent-poles.
It reminds me of that dazzle camouflage, if I was trying to shoot Lindybeige (I'm not, don't worry) I'm not sure I'd know where to aim
My grandfather drove a Stug III in WW2, he actually named my mother "Sonja" after his particular tank.
Nice!
your mother is a tank?? like thomas?
My great grandfather hid from the nazis, being Jewish that is. Your point is?
Lol I will name my future son E100 Or Leopard
@@dgray3771 . His point is that he has some history tied to this beautiful piece of artillery
Phff not even reping chin ups in the thumbnail
Armenian's WT crew is cooler 100% confirmed
I love your Chanel
what up my friend
If u put a mine on the mud guard, could the mine blow the track off?
depends on the amount of explosives in the mine and the type of mine it is. It really just depends.
The Stug also had the advantage of usually being on the defensive.
StuG life!
U mess with the StuG, u mess with the ThuG.
You don't choose the StuG life, the StuG life chooses you.
My phone says this comment is 17 hours old, but the video is only 35 minutes old.
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Time warp
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putting a magnetic mine on the tanks track guarder rail is not a stupid plan because it would just blow the track right off the tank.
And, when you've managed to get that close to an armored vehicle without being killed, it's probably best to place the mine anyplace it will stick and get away as quickly possible instead of being fussy, or trying to get a clean kill and loitering in the kill zone.
Greg Ory it will stop the entire tank rotation as well
No, because it will just throw the track, making it imposssible to move the tank forward. It could only turn on the spot
How far away is the molten Jet of Anti tank mine effective?
I imagine air would break the jet quite fast?
If you’re that close just put it on the bogeys or tracks themselves, not the track guard.
You are one of very few TH-cam content makers that don't nauseate the hell out of me with their cornball and mostly feeble attempts at humor. As I age, I find myself appreciating you more and more. Thank you for uploading this video as I have a fascination for the Stug 3's and 4's and variants. Unlike many men and boys I do not salivate over discussions of Panthers, Tigers and King Tigers. I much prefer the Stugs and Mk. 4 tanks as the true workhorses of the Wehrmacht.
I'm not finnish myself, but the whole thing about finland during WW2 really bugs me, they didn't start any war, they tried to be neutral, but got invaded by soviet union, they requested help from the allied nations since they didn't plan on joining hitlers war, but unfortunatly the rest of the allied nations like the US, England and so on refused to in any way help finland since it would upset the soviet union that they were suppose to be allied with to defeat the german threat.
So finland did what anyone would have done and took what ever help they could, and this was only offered by the germans, so they recieved weapons and armoured viencles from the germans to fight off the soviet union and mannaged to do so quite well while the majority of soviets forces were facing off against Germany, ofcourse this benefitted germany making soviet have yet another front to fight alongside without sacrificing more german manpower.
but Finland was only ever really defending them selves from an invasion, and successfully did so since they mannaged to not get claimed by the soviet union in the after match of the war much like most of eastern europe!
how ever after the war finland got forced by the allied nations including US & England & France + Soviet union, to pay a war depth to the soviet union, a pretty hefty one at that even though they didn't start the war, neither did they ever invade anyone.. so yeah pretty big dick move by the so called " Heroes " of the WWII as many of those nations like to see them selves as.....
Also Finland was also the only country that ever did pay their full dept back from the war aswell... so yeah..
There was one upside of this for finland, since most of the dept was agreed to be paid with industri productions to the USSR rather then finacial money, it did help finland get their industri going pretty quickly after the war, much faster then most other nations, and it helped them keep the industri much bigger and modernized compared to countries of same population in that area, and once the payment was done (think it was sometime in the 80's) from there on it was a big benefit for finland to already have a pretty hefty industri going on that they now could focus on making stuff for the free market and making some decent money.
The war reparations (not 'dept') to the SU were paid already by 1952.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend. The only country not to be conquered, destroyed and raped by the SU in Eastern Europe was Finnland.
victor's peace. there is no shame in fighting alongside Germany against the communist slavs. but alas, Germany lost, and as the friend of a defeated nation, Finland got shat on. next time, be better at fighting and win the war
Allied nations offered help to Finland, but it was difficult to land troops in support due to a lack of an ice-free route during winter, and not wanting to violate Norweigan and/or Swedish neutrality. The UK did plan for that option, then Norway was invaded. The Finns received a number of aircraft slightly before the Winter War started from the UK, France and USA.
When the Germans attacked Leningrad, they expected their Finn allies to continue the attack with them as they invaded the city, but the Finns stopped at their former border with Russia as they did not intend to capture any Russian territory.
The Finns didn't really have much choice.
@Mrlightning 101
Well nobody else wanted to help so they were forced to take help from the Germans
@Mrlightning 101 They weren't traitors. They could even trait anybody because nobody beside Germany helped them.
USSR force Finland to start the Lapland war. Germany as a whole has played a huge role in the Finnish independence throughout history not just WW2
@Derp 101 who exactly did they betray lol
@@projectpitchfork860 star citizen project pitchfork by chance?
my father was a stug driver in the finnish arny, thank you germany for delivering these to us. When my father had the money, then he bought himself a mercedes, if one has been used to KVALITÄT, then german is the only thing.
QUALITÄT
❤❤❤
...was his Mercedes only painted half way down as well?
The StuG has always been my favorite "tank" design.
Great to see it show up on the channel!
What about the Hetzer, that replaced StuG towards the end of the war?
One of mine as well. Not to mention that it's one of my favorite mid-tier vehicles in World of Tanks as well.
Jagdpanzer 38 never replaced StuG III. They were decided to both remain in production. StuG III monthly production continually increased from 1940 and peaked in 1945, basically when the factories were overrun.
Same; there is just something about it I find very attractive.
Raikiir mein Lieblingswarhammeryoutuber schaut meinen Lieblingsgeschichtsyoutuber?!? :D
Not to forget how Finns used to stop Soviet tanks by jamming pieces of wood between the tracks so it would dislodge and fall off. Takes some balls to do that too.
The StuG 3Gs served us very well in Finland. Partly thanks to them, Helsinki remained one of three European capital cities of the countries taking part in WWII, never to be invaded. The other two were London and Moscow.
Finland was a disgrace. Can't make up their minds which side they're on like Italy. If England had switched sides when they were losing, everyone would doing goose steps, straight arm salutes, and have gas chambers in each city.
The Fins can stick their Stugs right up where the sun doesn't shine along with their hoooodraulic presses!
@@PreservationEnthusiast You useless excuse of a Troll, Finland asked for help to US/England in order to stop the ilegal Soviet invasion in their country (the USSR was attacking them for no reason), then the Allied forces said "fuck you" and Findland was left ALONE to fight the Red Army. The ONLY ONES who offered help were the Germans and at that time FInland took the only chance they had to avoid being eaten alive by the USSR.
Finland only wanted to be left alone, but the USSR first invaded them in the "winter war", then Finland took a counter attack against the Soviets with the end result of so many looses for the Red Army that Stalin was forced to make a deal with Finland, in return the nation turned it's German weapons against the Germans and from that point onwards it was left alone for good being practically the ONLY nation that fought and won its independence against the USSR wich was expanding its territory like a plage over Europe.
@@PointReflex There was no way the allies, though many of them wanted to, could offer effective help to Finland. They already had Germany for an enemy. They didn't need the USSR too
@@PointReflex it's not that simple. Finland was part of Russian Empire. after 1917 the whole country fell apart and civil war broke out. at this stage every village was it's own country. Finland had also declared its independence but fell into a civil war between finnish communists and a fascist monarchist Mannerheim (who actually was an fanatical supporter of Russian Czar). By 1940s Stalin had started to put the country back together, which lead to a border dispute with Finland.
Can you please tell me what that small helmet like thing is at 2:06 because I've searched the internet with "hooded headlamp" and all sorts of other key words but found no result as to what it is as I see this thing quite a lot in German tanks
I suspect most British people (the ones who don't watch Lindybeige) would be surprised to learn that within living memory their country declared war on, and bombed, Finland.
Other surprises might include the British declaration of war on Thailand in 1942, and the British invasion of neutral Iceland in 1940. They really got around.
Sounds like you might have a grudge, pal
Australia, too. New Zealand? Commonwealth countries. I still haven't forgiven the aussies, and take every opportunity to remind them of the Emu War. /jest
yep, just so they can get war reperations like the greedy war mongering bastards they are
Yes, it's nice to to not get firebombed. Common knowledge, really.
Oh man, just when I was going to pull the trigger on E-Bay for one, that failure to neutral turn is a big show stopper. Thanks for the heads up. ;-)
Yeah, and It doesn't even have a friggin' cup holder for the radio operator.
They can do neutral turns, the operator evidently doesn't have a ton of money to spend on fuel though
Couldn't a mine on the mudguard de-track the vehicle?
Yes
Yes, and Lindybeige ought to know. Track off: Stug immobile.
@@Herman6507 And without a turret, only able to shoot in one direction
except you know the track is also magnetic and made of steel so sticking a magnetic mine on it would accomplish the same thing
@@ServantofBaal Gunners and drivers worked as a team and the STUG-III could line up to it's target very fast. If they had not worked well, then why did they make so many, and why did they destroy the most enemy vehicles?
Good video on the StuG III. There's a couple of corrections I'd like to make, though:
Those peepholes are for the driver's periscope in case he wants to drive with the armoured glass viewport covered.
Also, all panzers were kept in red oxide below the fenders. The Germans were never "low on paint"; the last tanks to leave factories were still finished in complex, factory-done paint schemes. And no, no tanks ever left a factory in red primer. In late 1944 they ordered the insides to be left hull red entirely, but they went back to painting the off-white in early 1945. The Germans running out of paint is a myth.
1299 of the StuG III were actually "StuH", Sturmhaubitze, with howitzers and another 24 were built as StuIG 33B.
"Zimmermint" had me though. Lol. It's also more barium sulfate powder and sawdust than it is glue.
Panzermeister36 After 1941 *all* German tanks left the factory in a single exterior colour. Camo was applied at the unit level depending on arrival season and theatre. The base colours switched over time from a grey-green to a sand-green to a primer red.
...no. German camouflages were factory-applied two-tone grey and brown until between 1938 and 1940, depending on the vehicle (StuG III Ausf.A, Ausf.A2, and the first two months of Ausf.B production all had two-tone camouflages applied from the factory). Brown was also field-applied on tanks before the battle of France in 1940,if the tanks were only grey. Colour photos show this. Black and white don't since red-brown looks grey-black in orthochromatic film. We now use panchromatic for black and white so that's no longer as true.
Then tanks were base coated in grey until February 1943 when it was switched to dark yellow. Before then, there were various tropical schemes as well which were also used in Russia; StuG III Ausf.F/8 were painted in Tropen 2 (RAL7027/8020) and fought at Kharkov in the winter of 1942-43. Desert camouflage in the Russian Winter, before dark yellow was introduced...since they were painted in the factory originally for north Africa. Once again, original paint orders and photographs prove this. Tropen 1 and 2 were both two-tone, factory-applied camouflages. Tropen 1 is what you see on Tiger 131.
In late 1944, around August, tanks were deployed in factory-applied camouflages. This is evidenced by original documents, photos, and the fact that all tanks has the exact same camouflage pattern with negligible variations in camouflage lines.
This was continued up until the end of the war. No tank ever left a factory in red primer. Red primer was also never left exposed in the place of Rotbraun paint. This is once again well documented. There are also no photos of tanks deployed in primer. It's a myth created by model tank builders.
So, *all* German tanks were only deployed in a single colour between 1940 and 1941, and that is grey. After '41, they were possibly deploying them from the factory in multicolored camouflages depending on the theater, mainly Africa, and possibly single coloured yellow from February 1943 to August 1944. Other than that, everything was two- or three-tone camo.
Panzermeister36 If you want to argue about it then take it up with the Tank Museum. Or my grandfather who worked in a factory producing StuG IV and JagdPanzer IV. They both say you're wrong.
I trust photographs, official documents, and surviving unrestored tank wrecks and parts more than 70+ year old hazy memories that are not your own and yet you were able to bring up in 6 minutes.
Makes me sad i havnt caught up and missed a lot of lindy's videos recently. Caught this one and has definitly got me back to binge watching. Love it
don't you mean beige watching?
hey didn't expect to see the legend himself here!
Lindybinge
ITS ALMOST HARVESTING SEASON (I hope)
LindyBinging is favorite past-time of mine.
Stug life.
You can see the 500mm wooden armor on the side- bounces everything.
War thunder : 👀
@@randomguy-ns2tc Hey why doesnt war thunder have the logs?
That would make for a nice attachment
@@azmanabdula they had been saying they were going to add stuff like that for years but never have. One reason why I stopped playing a couple of years ago
@@Geister7 : S
@@Geister7 Its heaps different now
Finnish Sturmi.
TORILLE
Finnish markings. Finnish nickname was: "Strumi" Those Stugs played very important role in summer -44, when Finland stopped Soviet invasion.
TheJoneko Sturmi*
Magnetic mine on the mudguard would break the tread. It would be a much more effective attack than standing directly in front of it and trying to attack its thickest armor.
Random fact: Zimmerit was made by German company Zimmer & Co, which was owned by the father of Hans Zimmer. Yes, that Hans Zimmer.
jeder kennt den erfinder des zimmers ; P
.........von der blutspur im waschbecken bis zur letzten ruhestätte unterm louvre.........gänsehautgarantie
well, shit.
You made that up. Right? Right?
Actually Hans Zimmer's father was the inventor Hans Joachim Zimmer who pioneered the manufacturing of synthetic fibre. He founded the Zimmer AG in Frankfurt am Main. Zimmer & Co in Berlin was founded by Louis Zimmer, I don't think they are closely related.
who?😂
I didn't choose the StuG life, the StuG life chose me ~ Panzer III
Ps 531-44 "Maija" is on display at the Finnish armour museum in Parola, close to Hämeenlinna. Interesting museum. They've got an armoured train and plenty of other rare stuff as well.
This particular Stug, Ps 531-44 "Maija", is at the Bovington tank museum in England. Parola does have two Stugs on display though, Ps. 531-45 and Ps. 531-18 "Kirsti", which by the way is still in running order!
Did they ever get Stug in the mud?
heh heh
Apparently the Russians compared the T34 with the StuG III and found the StuG had better cross terrain ability than even the excellent T34.
@@WilliamJones-Halibut-vq1fs
> T-34
> Excellent
are you fcking kidding me, my grand fathers brother drove one of those and said that those things were absolutely miserable
Olson323 What did he say was “miserable” about them? I’m only going of Soviet test reports (it was only excellent some aspects of mobility I think in getting in and back out of ditches). The StuG III was probably a poor tank (gaps in armour around the gun, no turret) when misused in that way but it was designed as a self propelled gun, easy to hide, that would be part of the infantry. Both the German 7.5cm field gun and AT gun weighed 1.5 tons and would need a half track to position them anyway so you may as well eliminate the half track.
@@WilliamJones-Halibut-vq1fs Very bad visibility from inside. Horrible quality sights, and something about ventilation - after each shot, inside was filled with gasses further limiting visibility. Hull was somewhat too small - crew was to tightly packed and couldnt operate freely. Everething was of bad quality, half assed, parts very badly fitting togedher. Tank was cost effective and did its role, but calling it excellent is absolutely wrong.
First i thought that soviets gave worse quality t-34 to their "allies" but i read a lot about the subject lately, and seemingly their own crews had the same problems.
We even have proverb saying about being "as fucked as inside russian tank" and i suspect that it was born inside T-34, because other russian tanks we ever had were T-55s and T-72s and those had generally favorable opinion in their time
Did they use a waffle iron to make that "Zimmerit"? Time for a Zimmerit video. And how it's still used today, my city covers outdoor elecrical cabinets with it as an anti-poster paint but the design looks very much like midwar German Zimmerit. Just do it for the word Zimmerit, i would love to hear you say Zimmerit more often. lovely word, ins't it? Zimmerit.
Long story short, Zimmermit is applied like a paste and a special tool gives it the texture, German's figured out the only people issuing magnetic anti tank mines on mass......,where the Germans themselves, and stopped putting it on their tanks later into the war.
Zimmerit.Zimmerit.Zimmerit. etc. 0___0
Rutabaga (___)
Everything allright Thomas? You sound... odd. :)
Kid: I got PS3
Rich kid I got Ps4 pro
That one kid who's dad is working for SONY: I got PS5
The quiet kid: I got PS 531-44
Finnish army used Stug III:s until 1966.
Ande
Finns, they were the enemy!
maybe replaced by Swedish S-tanks? LOL...just a guess..
troll..
*Inb4 Military History Visualized comments something about the StuGLife*
Too late tobarishch.
It was always too late.
Sergeant Panther that was around a long time before him.
They say that 10500 Stugs were built. They managed to destroy 20 000 enemy tanks... Just two tanks per each one... Not too many! What happened to them then?! They got killed themselves... Too many Stugs were destroyed and left to rust as a scrap metal in Russia. And their crews went underground to feed worms.
Jim lastname yeah Stug life was a meme a long time before MHV, also, Hetzers gonna Hetz was another one. In World of Tanks you can mount both the Stug and Hetzer with the short barreled 105mm gun and just spam HEAT and HE, a so-called "troll gun". I first heard them in the context of World of Tanks.
Earlier variants were actually designated as self propelled guns and not tank destroyers.
Yeah the A up till E variants were SPG/SPH's. The first AT version was the Stug Ausf. F
Ahhh, a stug. Finns loved those things and put them to good use against russians. They stayed in finnish army after the war and were still used in the 60's as trainer tanks. I believe this stug here is even in finnish colours, right? Beautiful beast
It is a finnish one, atleast it has the defence forces numbers and "maija" written on it :D
Taltsi yeah, i watched the video after i commented, floyd pointed it out too 👏
Also the designation of Ps. 531 is a Finnish army designation. All tanks get a designation of Ps. and a number as far as I know. The number after the dash - is the number of the individual tank.
unfortunately it,s in postwar colours though the modifications are wartime.
And later finns were buying soviet t-72 haha, very practical folk unlike mine
Lindy makes mistake, Lindy accepts his mistake and corrects it. Lindy is honest.
That is why we like Lindy.
Except for when it comes to the "spandau". (facepalm)
Except for when he talked about the Spandau. And global warming. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love his videos, but on occasion his nationalism, conceit or sheer bloody-mindedness gets in the way of his logical thinking and basic humility.
@@Alopex1 Aww, is someone upset by Nationawism?
@@alexismcloughlin5383 I'm not upset by it per se, I think it inhibits people's capacity to think rationally as well as to empathise with people not belonging to their group. It's an outdated mode of thinking that has no place in a globalised world in which we are all interconnected. And I believe it's the root for a lot of racism, violence and arrogance.
@@Alopex1 bruh
You never make mistakes. You just have an inordinately large number of learning opportunities. I'm guessing that's how you got to be so knowledgeable about the world and so willing to shoot off onto new and exciting tangential subjects related to whatever main topic that you're covering. You're videos are brilliant! Keep up the great work! Best of luck on October 31!👍👍
*_StuG: Shoot tanks und GO!_*
nice
No. Just no. Nein. Nyet. Non. Nee. Ei. Nej.
You can't put just one German word with 3 English ones in a German acronym and have it make sense.
Philip Bossy
that's what i always think when someone says 'third reich'. it's either 'third empire' or 'drittes reich', but 'third reich' doesn't make any sense at all.
Ich can do what i bloody want :)
montanus777 'Third Reich' (or Second or First) is just the accepted term in the historical community. I speak 3 languages from 3 different linguistic families and in every one of them the word 'Reich' doesn't get translated when people talk about the Third Reich.
The same reason that people don't translate Khan or Buddha or Soviet.
I'm pretty sure the logs were used to help move stuck vehicle from mud and swamp or other rough terrain. You would put them in front and drive over. Soviets had tree logs on every tank really for that very purpose.
You don't carry six massive logs for that purpose.
Well what are the odds they were added in the museum? It's hard to find Stug photos with any number, but I can find only with one.
Lindybeige Depends on the Museum, if they put them on who knows if they were planned or common?
Lindybeige Why not? It is always good to have spareparts. I don't see reasons not to.
"You don't carry six massive logs for that purpose."
Why not? It works. And when you're not using them for traction, it doubles as extra armor! Incredibly high tech multi purpose thing ,wood!
If a Russian comes up with a magnetic mine, and he goes "ha ha" :D
I'm as early and premature as Italy's entry to the war
That's always more mature than the Dieppe raid.
And your contribution is just as insignificant.
The STUG, in every variant, is my favorite tank of all time. Its effectiveness was undeniable, and I like the profile.
2:48 . No, that is not idiotic. It will knock out the treads, the tank can only use the turret then but not move. It is a sitting duck. Strategy taught to this day, guerilla warfare against sophisticated tanks. Ex-tank grenadier here sending his regards.
Could you make a video about Finnish-Nazi-German relations during the second world war? I feel like most people have an extremely black and white idea about the subject, including the Finnish use of the swastika (Which we used before Nazi Germany). Love your content, keep it up!
kala captain I know, just didn't feel like it's worth mentioning since i was talking about the Finnish usage of it. Im somewhat tired of people who think Finns are Nazis cause of it (We still use it in some flags etc.). Thats an intresting fact though, never heard of it!
The swastika has been a symbol in Finnish art and culture for a very long time.
Rolexi
I think that this hate against all swastikas is quite stupid. Afterall its one of the simplest and most universal symbols after a circle, square, cross etc.
Therefore its no wonder that quite a many cultures have used swastikas as symboles.
Now black tilted swastika on a white circle and red background is a different thing.
Let's start by calling it by the proper name, Hekken Kruz. I dont know what the Finns call their version. Swastika is a british given name never used by germans.
The actual word "swastika" derives from Sanskrit thousands of years before any nazis. And if you mean the German name for the symbol stolen by nazis, it is Hakenkreutz.
Strange you mentioned this, as your nickname would suggest you are of Indian descent and thus aware of the history.
no turret = bigger gun
richard scales exactly the Panzer iii as a turreted tank could not be upgunned from the 50mm.
And a lower profile! 😀
Actual Hitler had ordered army ordenance to supply the Pzkmpf III with 60 mm guns from the beginning however germans factories was not able to produce them in significants amounts so it was never archived. And when they were able to deliver they were obselete against the t-34. The germans then tried to discus using tungstencore in the ammunition howerver there were shortage of this too. So after the t-34 showed up on the scene the hole chaissi of Pzkmpf III was outdated as tank mount. But Guderian had from the beginning asked for tracked infantery antitank guns and support artellery so that was doomed to be the role of Pzkmpf schaissies form then on as a stop gap solution.
And you can make them in the same factorys that did Panzer III widout needed to uppgrade most of its machinetools, as the case if you want to change to make the bigger Panzer IV.
You are spot one there. It was alwas a matter of production facilities and raw materials and man power hours needed and price. Actual there were a meeting where Hitler and Guderian participated and all but Guderian agreed in shifting to production of Panther only and drop production of what ever version of Pzkmpf III and IV until Guderian said "so you will stop production of tanks in 2 months and end up that you only can send a handfull of Tiger I to the eastfront in those 2 months?... As you know Guderian got it his way and a more slowprogressing plan was done before all tank producing factories had changed their machenery to only produce. When the Pzkmpf III factory was bombed it was decieded to mount the StuG casemate on Pzkmpf IV chassi as well just to be sure to be able to send some stugs to the front in favour of the more or less obselete Pzkmpf IV G-J with tower. Next step was that the germas even they liked the Panther had to realise that they needed even more standartzation so they started to look into the E tank concept were so many parts as posibble was going to be used on whatever tracked wagon the german army would buy. This plan never started production but part it got implemented and Tiger II and Hetzer had adopted some features from this concept.
Fun fact when Lindy was born the sweater was already on...it has now completely fused to his body and he has become one with the sweater..during childhood the other kids would play ball, but good ole lindy would give lectures on world war 2 to his sweater, his only true friend...
Isn't mud guard a good place for a mine? I mean blowing up the tracks on a tank that can't rotate it's turret is pretty big deal.
I dont think it would be close enough to carry enough impact force. Thats 6 inches of air to slow and disperse the impact.
Why Zimmerit on the mudguard? Simple, to reduce the chance of a magnetic shaped charge to damage the tracks (they already were pretty overworked on the StuG III because of the high weight).
I think the rough surface of zimmerit also helps climbing onto the Stug
Zimmerit was rather useless on a whole anyways, the people who used magnetic mines the most where......the Germans themselves.
That's why really only early and mid war tanks even have it, at some point they stopped putting it on their tanks, a good half of all panthers never even had it.
That's what I thought too, if you got a mine stuck to the mudguard, it would probably blow off the track.
The top flat bit of the mudguard had no Zimmerit, and the spacing between the guard and the track would make blowing the track off unlikely.
You wouldn't stand on that bit. It would not take your weight.
5:26 red lower half is also good for morale when the some crew inside is bleeding...
You know when someone is bleeding they would probably be screaming...
And they would probably be holding onto their wound too...
@@wr0ng569 Ah, but the tank engine is so loud one cannot hear his own screaming! So the Germans were smart.
4:08 Our president at the time, Risto Ryti, didn't like the nazis, but we were heavily dependent on them to fight the soviets. So Ryti promised alliance to them, knowing he didn't have the authority to do that and was essentially committing a treason. That fooled Hitler and he kept giving us support but eventually we abandoned the axis and made peace with the USSR. Ryti was condemned and thrown into jail. Rumor says that all the prisoners stood at attention whenever he walked by.
Did I mention Finns have a reputation of being exceptionally trustworthy?
My oldest son was an exchange student in Oulu , Finland from America and said when he came back home he would return to Finland if he ever got another chance. Said the people and government is the most honest in the whole world. Too, he likes to fish and like the lures made by Rapala.
Sounds like a traitor to me....
why are you so sensitive about the fact that Finland fought as an ally of Germany? There is no shame. The Finnish nation, with the aid of Germany, fought bravely against the communist Russians.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Finland's enemy was the USSR, and the USSR's enemy was Germany.
Alas, Germany and Finland lost the war, and both nations got shat on post-war. toughen up and win next time
@@commentsandlikes9509 This is so true. The Suomi people had to do what they had to do. England and France weren't coming to their aid. Unlike most all Eastern European countries that bordered the CCCP, Finland managed to remain free and sovereign even if they had to forfeit lands and remain neutral and not part of NATO during the Cold War.
FINLAND WAS AN ALLY OF NAZI GERMANY
Saying so otherwise is blatant historical revisionism. Finland cooperated very closely with Germany during the planning of Operation Barbarossa. Finnish forces cooperated heavily with army group north in the area of Leningrad, and German and Finnish forces were fully integrated in the carrying out of military operations in northern Finland. Risto Ryti did not commit any treason whatsoever. His personal guarantee not to agree to an armistice with the Soviet Union was intentionally done by him and Mannerheim, so that Finland would not technically be violating any agreements with Germany when it did seek peace with the Soviets, as all he had to do was resign and they would be void. One of the conditions of the armistice was that certain Finnish "war criminals" selected by the Soviets had to be improsoned, and this included Ryti. Finland very reluctantly imprisoned him after making constitutional changes and creating bogus charges that would allow them to imprison him in order to comply with the Soviets, and he eventually recieved a pardon.
Scherenfernrohr does indeed just mean "scissor telescope".
I do believe that was the joke
Also a really literal translation of "Fernrohr" (scope) would be "far pipe"
Also thought it looked more like a rabbit ears myself... :)
If you know the name of something in German, you know *exactly* what it does...
Or at least what it looks like. A nice feature also shared by Japanese. Probably most languages that don't consist of random words from different languages thrown together.
What I find amazing Is that he still has the model Stug that he made at 11.
The finns did not change sides because of politics, they changed sides because it was part of the only peace deal they could get against Britains pals the USSR.
I'd hardly call the USSR "Britain's pals".
The Suomi people , everyone else calls them Finns, were caught between two larger warring nations. They had to chose the lesser of two Devils since there would be no help to this small democracy from England or France. They survived, they loss land to Russia and lives to both Soviet Russia and Nazi Germany but they survived as a nation and neutral state during the Cold War when so many Eastern European nations were forced into being puppet communist states of the CCCP.
Well.. USSR was in alliance with, you know, the Allies. Which by definition made them "pals" with the rest of the allied forces.
And that is politics :)
@@tituspullo9768 Pals enough for the brits to declare war.
But just imagine if they used all that steel from those10,000 StuGs to make just one really big huge tank! The whole German army could've hopped inside, driven into Moscow, walloped Stalin on the head, job done! Speer really missed a trick with that one.
comradesomo and which bridge will carry it or how will you defend it from aerial bombs or why stugs why not panthers or tigers
stug was best afv for germans
Well its tracks will be SO BIG that it can cross any river and barely get wet. As for defending it, that will be completely unnecessary, as I imagine the Russians would just see the thing and run away in fear like the lily-livered cowards they are instead of even trying to fight it. As for Panthers and Tigers, well they should just be welded to the hull as ablative armour.
There were plans to build the "Ratte" mounting the tower from a battleship with trippel 250 mm guns. Hower what your fantasy seems not to notice that there were no capasity in Germany to produce an engine there were big enoufgh. And if you are really interested in this topic. All countries during the struggled with this simple facts that there were limitations to how big engine they could massproduce. And Yes logistics at that time was a major issus since nobody at that time too was able to produce a tank there could drive very far. Actual the first version of Panther tank was only able to drive 100 km before it had to have a major overhault.
They tried that a few times. Didn't work out. The turret from the largest one they were able to make a semblance of a prototype of wound up being used as a costal defence gun.
Alaric _ yeah that thing was waste of time and material an aerial bomb would knock out that ratte
First of all thanks for a very entertaining vid! as usual if i might say. Hope you will continue making them.
I have though two minor things I'd like to adress
- 2:37 Detonating a magnetic mine on the tracks mud guard would render the vehicle immovable and vulnerable/dead - thus the coating on the mud guard
- 4:12 The Finns did not change sides! They were on their own side. They drove the Germans out of Finland accordingly to the peace treaty with the soviet.
A little like if you have two bullies in the school yard who hate each other. One of them starts on you too, and of cause you go together with the other against your enemy. The Germans were not a threat to the Finns (for now - they might have been later after a victory). The soviets though were to every one - look at later history (app. 60mio russians killed by their own leaders)
continoue. I have the utmost admiration for the Finns and their Sisu. They lost app. 80.000 young men in the two wars they fought. And because of that they stayed independent. Don't forget they knew that the soviet demands were only the beginning of making them a vasal state. They claimed independent december 1917 and were dragged into a soviet induced bitter civil war. They knew that in order to stay free they had to do "what ever"
I hope every country would fight like that for their country - then no war would be fought ~ Si vis pacem para bellum
Fun fact. Germany was the only country with any anti tank magnetic mines used in large numbers
...But if there's one thing Germans hate it is when their enemies use stolen German equipment against them. ...And I suppose they might have prepared for the possibility that others would also develop magnetic tank mines.
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is that really necessary? First, I don't Yiff, Second, I'm not a fag. And being a brony is one small facet of my life. I've studied history (primarily Maritime) and I only wish to raise an interesting point with the Zimmerit coating protecting tanks from a uncommon type of anti-tank weapon. I don't appreciate hat comments and I sure many others don't like them either.
kala captain Grow up, how does this even affect you?
Kala captain, your first comment was an interesting point, but then you just show yourself up. Why do that?
Sorry if this has already been said. Finland did not change sides. It fought the USSR on it's own; then joined with Nazi Germany to fight the USSR again (which meant they were enemies of the US and Britain and her Commonwealth). Then Finland abandoned Hitler, made peace with Stalin; and ended up fighting the Germans. At no time was she on the Allied side, just her own.
I counted two changes of side in your own reply. First change: neutral to axis ("...joined with Nazi Germany"). Second change: from axis to allied ("...abandoned Hitler") - or neutral, if you prefer that instead of allied. No one said the side changing would be just from allies to axis or vice versa.
Neutral is not a side, it is an independent state of being; independent from the sides in any conflict. In Europe in the last World War there were only two sides; Axis or Allied.
Finland was an enemy of the Allies when they attacked the Soviets at the start of Barbarossa (and Churchill wrote personally to Mannerheim begging him not to do so).
When Finland made peace with Stalin they did not side with the Allies. Their later fight with the Germans was forced on them but coincidental. As an aside. It was also the conflict that killed the only member of my family that died fighting for Finland; which makes the Timonen's of Salmi one of the luckiest large families in Finland.
Glyn Watkins: OK, OK - they're not Italy. But don't tell me some flip-flopping wasn't involved...
you obviously attended the Trump school of alternative facts
Finn here. We weren't part of the axis but we WERE fighting on the side of the Germans, the fact that Germans attacked against Murmansk and the Murmansk railroad from Finnish soil with Finnish forces reinforcing them is proof enough. But we were careful not to call Germans allies and Hitler noticed this.
And we did change sides, Risto Ryti (president of Finland) promised Hitler personally that Finland would not negotiate a separate peace in return for a deal for arms and ammunition with which we stopped the last Soviet assault. After that Ryti became the greatest stateman ever by resigning so Finland could negotiate a separate peace, After which USSR forced us to declare war on Germany.
TL;DR We weren't part of the Axis but neither were we fighting a separate war. Calling us Axis would warrant calling us Allies too since we fought against the Germans too.
"Schtuuuug", not "Stug!"
:-)
How noble you are my good sir. Admitting to ones flaws is never easy, but it does indicate a person of good character 👍
Really enjoy your content, I am glad to have found your channel.
Thumbnail had me convinced the three logs were the fingers on your right hand.
Palpable disappointment, made up for by your magnificent content though
That would have been a BIG hug.
I had no purpose in life. Then I met StuG. StuG was wise and when only one set of footprints was in the sand it was StuG that carried me. Then I became wise and carried my team. Some of them went on to be chosen by StuG. Others joined the order of Hetzer. Of those that chose Hetzer the wisest were bestowed upon with 10.5cm holiness. And Serb saw that this was good. And all stats rejoiced.
I was a bit surprised when you pronounced Maija correctly. Most English speakers would probably pronounce it as Mai/dʒ/a.
Lindy has been to Finland.
I've been to England twice and my pronunciation is still shitty.
if the track is damaged then the mud guard guarding it being blow up along with the tread then BOOM and you have a one legged tank...Or a one treaded tank
Correct. This little very british guy in all his videos says something that is not correct. I am really wondering why anybody wants to see his videos since it is obvious that he often says something there is not correct.
People watch his stuff because hes funny and enthusiastic, not because he is a perfect documentary. I agree though that a lot of mistakes could be avoided if he just asked someone at the Museum (or owner in case of the 2 StuGs on the field, which are privately owned I assume) to clarify a few obvious things.
Then why is there zimmerit only on the front and rear mudguard sections of the fender, and not on the rest of the fender? They also applied zimmerit to the toolbox on StuGs, which would itself act as spaced armour if they tried to mount a magnetic mine there. Also, MIAG-built StuG III (ones in video are all ALKETT-factory builds) don't have any zimmerit on the whole engine deck or rear of the casemate/superstructure.
It doesn't make much sense how they applied zimm.
They only applied Zimmerit to vertical or close to vertical surfaces (which apparently means more or less diagonal ones too), so its natural that near horizontal surfaces like the top of the fenders would be left without Zimmerit. I guess the assumption was that noone would be able to reach onto the top of the tank (or below it) to place the mine, and that vertical surfaces were thus more susceptible to such attacks.
He is entertaining despite his goofs. He is often right too :)
2:37 I reckon it's because if a magnetic mine does go bang on the mudguard the wrecked guard could get caught in the track or in its guide wheels and bugger up the manoeuvrability
The early model StuG was built by a guy in the UK from a wreck, and he did a LOVELY facebook page showing the entire restoration. He also brought a Marder III to Tankfest this year. Most of that particular tank is original, although it has the drivetrain from a British AFV (original StuG engines are a tad hard to find and get parts for), and he had to hand fabricate a lot of it (including those hinges you were so impressed by...hand made from blocks of steel, and fully documented on his page!). Here's a link to the facebook page that covered it: facebook.com/StugIIIAusfDRestoration/
Ooh hey I know how Maija ended up in Bovington! She was traded for couple of british tanks (dont ask me which I cant remember) by the finnish tank museum at Parola. I heard the story from the head of the Parola museum while he gave us a tour of the place last year.
Me when I see a German Panzer *Panzerlied playing in the background*
One little (but perhaps significant) detail:
Lindybeige says: "This particular tank was issued to the Finns". The word 'issued' implies that it was given to the Finns, while they were fighting alongside the Germans.
In reality, Finland bought and paid for all the equipment it got from Germany, including the Messerschmitt Bf 109s, the 8.8 cm flak guns, or indeed the Stugs. Each Stug, purchased between 1943 and 1944 cost the Finnish government 165,000 Reichmark, which is double (!) the manufacturing price mentioned in this video. This indicates that even though Finland and Germany were fighting a mutual enemy, their relationship wasn't exactly a full-on military alliance, and no such governmental pact was ever signed.
Where did the Finns get all those Reichsmarks?
thanks for that point however, we don't actually give any weapons away free to any of our current allies
so what is then the point that is being made about them having to pay?
@@DarkShroom The Soviets overwhelmingly didn't pay for the land-lease equipment they received, and whenever they did, it was symbolic only. And AFAIK the Romanian divisions in Stalingrad were fully supplied by the Germans. So this whole modern thing of not helping your allies is just that, a modern thing. It was a war. There's no such global war going on at the moment. So making a random internet comment about people not giving stuff for free now, meant that no one got stuff for free during the war? Yeah, no.
A lot of axis countries used it. Italy generally produced it's own vehicles and it may surprise some to know that they had exceptional tank destroyers, but the one thing they did willingly use from Germany was the stug G.
@@D4rkstorn Soviets sent a lot of resources back, precious metals. There's a whole ship full of platinum from the USSR at the bottom a ways off the coast of my state. But generally speaking, they got a lot. But the allied factories made a lot, employed a lot of people, and got out of the depression, which Germany got out of in 1934 and had no unemployment by 1936, still with essentially no military to speak of relative to others. That's why the generals freaked out when Hitler retook their own territory being used by France in the Rhineland, where most of the industrial capacity was. Because if France wanted, they could steamroll right back in at the time.
you could run up and put potatoes in the exhaust pipes and stall the tank out??? I heard rumors that it works on cars of pesky neighbors??? But only rumors...
They busted that one on Mythbusters - the exhaust has enough pressure to force the potato out.
You might have to have a sack full if you were in a hurry to stop said SPG which you mostly should be.
I mean, a potato WOULD be cheap... But if you're that close, the STUG costs a LOT more than a hand-boom.
The depends very much on the engine, engine load and potatoes applied to the auspuff
The russians would not waste food like that.
This is interesting, and you built that model when you were ELEVEN?! holy shit i wonder what your models look like now! That's really cool!
I'd say it's a bit unfair to say that the finns 'changed sides'. When the finns signed the peace treaty with the USSR, one of Soviet demands was that Finland would remove the german forces from its land. However there was no haste, or even great deal of will to drive off the Germans whom they had fought side by side with not too long ago and this mentality carried on for most of the Lapland war (War between Finland and Germany in WW2).
Only after the Soviets got really annoyed with the Finns just letting the Germans go back on their own pace and will, they arm twisted the finnish military to drive them out by force. This did increase the intesity of the fighting between Finns and Germans, but it still wasn't exactly an outright war as one would understand.
Even today most of the Finns are greatful to the German assistance against the Soviets during the Continuation War, so although there was some fighting, I still think it's bit extreme to call it 'changing sides'.
personally, i think it's a crime that Finland was allowed to go on as if nothing happen after the war. the Finnish government should have been removed and Mannerheim should have been hung for war crimes, due to his actions in 1917 civil war and due to him assisting germans during Leningrad blockade (where thousands of people had starved to death)
@@CoolGobyFish Ok vatnik. Killing reds who started a civil war and defending yourself is now a war crime. Now crawl back to your commieblock.
Changing sides does give the impression that it was voluntary, so I'd agree with you there
Greetings from finnland!!!😉☺..
I always shake my head when commentary states that the reason for the color variation across a demarcation line was due to paint shortages... not true. they did it because the fighting compartment was above the sponsons and would need to be illuminated to maneuver the rounds inside and when the hatch is open it would appear dark from above. Most German tanks were painted this way with the exception being open top variants.
95 people must have had large or inaccurate thumbs and mispressed when they got off the toilet.
Sherman fanboys
0/10 can't throw pommel :(
kala captain the struggle is real
Aren't AP shells just pre-unscrewed pommels tho?
0/10 unrelated
+FrozenAura
You mean 10/10 unrelated
Nein.
Amigo, you are a awesome teller. You'r video's are great and your information isn't copied or just filling up the time. You don't have any fancy music in the background, what is great and you don't try to make a show of it, you'r just yourself making a vid. about tanks. You are good.
A shaped charge (magnetic mine) on the mudgaurd would quite possibly damage the track and/or drive sprocket and cause a mobility kill.
And you don'thave to stand quite as much in teh buttoned down crews LOS.
And once you have an M kill the darn thing is much easier to attack. Or ignore.
BTW a turret does not pivot, it traverses. A gun pivots on it's trunnions.
I love a stug too.
Actually found a half built 1/35 Stug when I moved house recently. I think I'll have to dig out the paints and glue and finish it, 'specially since I have a room I can put that kind of thing on display now. Thanks for reminding me.
Love your work.
No, turrets definitely pivot. Thats their purpose. Otherwise you'd have a fixed gun, and thats not a turret.
2:20 a Russian would stay there and hold the mine for the Motherland
This be a Finnish service vehicle. I'm sure many have commented on this, since it's pretty obvious from the logs, which was more common in Finnish use compared to the Germans, but also this: The concrete addon armor is also a Finnish standard trick to do for a Stug, i don't think it was that common on the German vehicles. They were used more offensively, as "actual" tanks rather than tank destroyers in this scenario, so any additional frontal armor was a big deal. They were *quite* successful against Soviet T-34's in this role, not just as mere ambush weapons. Zimmerit was also not applied to Finnish tanks, but some of the Stugs had it on when received. But not all.
Furthermore, a lot of Stugs still in existence in museums etc. are actually Finnish models repainted in German markings and camouflage, which is a source of endless confusion; They differ from German models in minute detail, like the concrete armor on the casemate.
/E: As far as the armor skirts go, most / all of the Stugs were actually equipped with them originally. But they were removed. Probably because they made the vehicles wider, and the Soviets weren't that heavy on rocket propelled grenades to begin with.
my favorite SPG of the war, absolutely vital for Wehrmacht during offense and defense, and versatile enough to serve 39-45
logs are not an up armour tinh, its there if the stug gets stuck in mud, to put under the track, and I do belive that that stug is from the FInnish
StuG is short for Sturmgeshutz, i.e. assault gun. It's not Finnish, but German, and just a contraction just like Jabo is a contraction of the words for fighter (Jager) and bomber.
@@wbertie2604No, that particular stug is Finnish genius
@@lesaustion eh? StuG is a German word. Which country operating the particular example doesn't change the origin of the word.
@@wbertie2604 never did I say that did I? Can you read? Obviously not
@@wbertie2604 when did I ever talk about the origin of the word? Never, that was all you and your delusional mind
Doing the mud guard makes perfect sense. It's the farthest point out it such it is easier/safer to stick it. Secondly tracking this tank is its death.
A magnetic mine on the mud guard comes in handy to disable the tracks I'd guess.
1:53 I now know that Elmer's Glue worked for the Nazis!
The Stug is honestly my favourite ww2 vehicle. Not favourite tank, mind you, because a Sturmgeschütz is not a tank. I even have a Cobi model of the ausführung A (I think) in Afrika korps livery! They are just perfect little thingies if you want to support infantry (which I think is pretty important) or make a tank into a swiss cheese (not so cool, but eh).
If anyone wants to know, my perfect tank would be a Stug 3, with a sloped front (there were plans for a Panzer IV with this, so why not?) and an American M3 75mm gun. Plus a few details. Perfection in my eyes
3:51
Not true, on Fury some wood logs could make a close Tiger 1 shot bounce off.
j/k
I think the germans would have bypassed the crippled tank and taken care of it at their leisure.
That film is gobshite
Built that model at 11 yrs? Nice work. I myself have both had a interest in the war my dad participated in and build models, prefer 1/35 scale
The Finns never changed sides, they always fought the soviets. In 1944 they've signed a separate peace treaty and got out of the war, remaining a "neutral" country to this day. So you can see that there was a democracy fighting alongside Nazi Germany, albeit with special emergency powers given to Marshal Mannerheim because of the existing state of war.
Stug needed a little Lindy love 💕😊