Hetzer - a German mobile armoured coffin
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The Hetzer (or Jagdpanzer 38t) - it is a 'cool'-looking vehicle, and a favourite with WW2 tank enthusiasts, but was it all that great to fight in?
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That threading on the outside of the barrel is for the bayonet.
lol
It isnt a japanese tank bdw. :D
Yup perfect for tank jousting
Knowing how the fighting on the Eastern front was I don't even doubt this.
Silencer
I didn't choose the Hetzer life i was drafted by the Wehrmacht.
I chose the StuG life instead
@@chooyongming110 we all chose the stug, but it didnt choose all of us
"Steers like a cow." Have you driven one? I have. Two in fact. My own and that which belonged to the Patton Museum. The Hetzer is one of the most responsive and quick turning, except when backing up, of WWII tanks. The driver had two choices for turning. Normal driving down the road and close quick turns can be made by activating (pushing in) the steering lever buttons. Gear changing certainly beats any Sherman. The Hetzer had a semi-auto transmission, a preselect. It is like driving an automatic with a clutch. You can select the gear you want to use and when ready push in the clutch and release and the gear changes. The machinegun's ammo drum held fifty rounds. I do agree with the practicality of remote MG34. On mine, the remote mount was used sans the inside operating mechanism. We just stuck out the left hatch and grabbed the gun by its grip. Regarding the barrel: The Hetzer was originally designed using a standard tank barrel (as in the late Pz. IV) with the muzzle brake. It was soon discovered that the muzzle brake suck out a bit too far. Look at the profile and the vehicle's 'angle of approach'. Even with the muzzle brake removed we stuck the Patton Museum's barrel into an dirt embankment and stalled out. Postwar, the Swiss opted for the muzzle brake and a lot of the Hetzers in museums today are ex Swiss army examples. Most museums have removed the muzzle brake so the tank destroyer looks like one as used by the Wehrmacht. Adding the brake the Swiss had to install a counterweight on the end of the loading safety cage to keep the mounting in balance. That left hand hatch is for the loader, gunner, and driver. Another portion of the commander's hatch can also be opened. The Swiss did away with the remote machinegun retaining the periscope feature of it and they swapped two positions. The Swiss commander moved to the left behind the gunner and the loader moved over to the Wehrmacht commander's spot. Does anyone know what those three round socket looking gizmos are for on the roof top? (I do.) Do you know how I could tell if a Hetzer was running properly? If it would get up and go 44 kilometers per hour - it was good. (On flat gravel road.) Speaking of escape hatches there is a question? Did the WWII Hetzers feature one on the floor? I am not sure but I think these were added by the Swiss postwar. That round item in the back is the fan blower for radiator/engine cooling. There was a steel cover there. The air intakes were on both rear sides as in under the wheel wells. The blower contained a clutch. The air came out at the rear top near the exhaust pipe. Regarding the threaded muzzle on the Polish museum's example. Their version is a early one with the narrow gun and driver vision slits. Could the very first examples made have the muzzle brake? More likely the barrel may have been replaced by the Wehrmacht and they used a standard KWK40 barrel with the brake removed. (I am guessing though.) What is it like inside during battle re-enactments? I served as a loader but spent many hours/days as the driver. It took time to get over that enclosed feeling. On mine I had installed a old fashioned tape player and car radio for when I was forced to sit in the driver's seat - I found the music very calming. If I wanted out two others had to get out first. I recall what actor Jack Kelly said to the Sherman tank's commander in TO HELL AND BACK: "How thick do you think this GI shirt is."
Your own? Uhmmm...
The cow or the tank?
@@anthrazite That is correct, mine. I owned ex-Swiss #78038 for some twenty years.
@@gabrielgarcia9822 Good point, I meant a Hetzer not the cow. I've never driven a cow, yet.
The face at the end was perfect
Hetzer irl: Armored coffin with a gun sticking out of it.
Hetzer in Company of Heroes: It was alright I guess.
19+ minutes of Lindybeige and tanks, time well spent :-)
So happy I came back to this video since I found I had accidentallly DISLIKED a Lindybeige video. Happy to say this has been rectified sir.
Hi!
Hetzer = Baiter
Panzerabwehrkanone = Tank Deterrent Cannon
Greetings from Germany
Jagdpanther jagdtiger jagdpanzer Hetzer - all these later war tank hunters had no cupola
I love your hind sight the 38 T , was a great use of factory space building a outdated tank. And built just under 3000 tank killers. That were very good at ambushing the enemy.
Well, if the vehicle was supposed to be issued to infantry units, it makes sense that the vehicle doesn't have much in the way of self defense. The infantry should be protecting it, and making sure nobody gets too close. How did this apply on the battlefield? Probably not as well. But the idea is reasonable and logical.
Why do I get the feeling that Lindy just asked sone random passerby to hold the camera for him, then started rattling off about the Hetzer for the next 15 minutes
Because that's exactly what he did
Cre8iveCat he would kidnap you and would assault you with a ramble or two
Hey kid, want to make a quick 10 bucks?
@@manictiger i read this in his voice
Probably was like would care for some tea and a biscuit? Come this way, oh since you are here, hold this camera.
The poor person didnt have the heart to be rude and leave.
"I think that one thing that keeps crews safe is the ability to see. Also, being on the side that is winning is quite handy..."
Tell that to the Soviet crews
@@jakeflfirelegend5377 i laughed so hard i spit beer on the keybord. Great.
The Hetzer wasn’t a tank. It was a self propelled armoured anti tank gun. It weighed only 16 tons and had pretty good armour. It wouldn’t get employed as a tank or be put in those situations.
**when the last order was radio silence and you don't know the war is over.**
@Rodolfo Ramos Right. And one could attempt to kill p4s in short range with a Churchill I by relying on the shockwaves to knock the crew out. But that's not the intended use and a poor way to judge the Churchill's performance. Just so, while a Hetzer may have been employed as a tank, it was not a tank and that was not it's intended use.
Herzer irl: rolling coffin, horrible visibility, roughly designed
Herzer in warthunder: death incarnate, crusher and driver of enemies, listener of lamentations
broken transmission intensifies
EVERYONE shoots the lfp
Jared Mannarino
Same thing could be said in WoT
*D E S T R O Y E R O F W O R L D S*
If anyone is having trouble against this tank, you can shoot the LOWER FRONTAL PLATE, which will 100% dedtroy the transmission. Without the ability to move, it can be easily flanked and shot in the side. Alternatively, you can shoot the barrel, or just keep on shooting that lower frontal plate to kill the driver over and over until the crew is exhausted. Happy hunting :)
I was wondering if War Thunder would pop up.
Editor: what animation u want for "hetzer" words
Lindybeige: YES
Lmao
No.
He basically just took every possible stock text animation preset in Sony Vegas and put it in the video.
So he had a conversation with himself
Will that lame joke ever die?
"It was a mobile coffin"
"It did do the job"
made me chuckle.
Well Switzerland used this tank until the nineteen eighties!!!! So much for coffin thr design was brilliant . Coffins were built in Italy ( M 13/40) or Japan!
Steffen Rosmus the Hetzer had an ugly drawback as it had thin 20 mm armour at the sides so it was easily defeated with anti-tank rifle or anything bigger but it was not meant to fight in the streets or in the open fields, it was built as a tank destroyer to shoot from concealed bushes. In this it was very effective also because of it's diminutive size making it relatively easy to conceal! I understood that despite it was cramped making it difficult to handle the ammo it was quite popular with the crew and was quite easy to mantain. In my opinion it was handicapped by having poor placing of periscopes and limited view with the too narrow armoured glass for the driver. Nevertheless it gave good account at the final months of war!
@Aodh buí Mac an Ridrí You mistake that with the STUG.
@@petrameyer1121 He is right, the infantry did love having these Hetzer around.
StuG's were better in almost every way but when you are facing hordes of T34's these things were great.
They were cheap to build and were reliable running in the field.
Their gun was more than capable of stopping a T34 or a Sherman at range.
The gun, dispite the periscope sight was more likely to get a first round hit than the T34 or the Sherman under combat conditions.
@Carnivorus The offset of a periscope sight above the tank could cause misalignment of the shot. A periscope sight is great to line up the initial shot while behind cover. An inline sight mounted on the cannon's frame is better for final alignment of the shot. Ideally you want both for flexibility in use.
To be honest it was better than pushing around a pak-40 in the mud.
And you´ll be safe from counter artillery fire with shrapnel. If they use HE, then you can still rather quickly relocate with gun and ammunition, very unlike a pak-40...
The Chieftain.
Well then at that point what tank isnt better than that bs
Hanz ze pak zirty iz ztuk in ze mud again get za panzter aut
Comparing tank destroyers to AT guns?
Apples & oranges anyone?
Hetzer basically means: someone who relentlessly hunts you down to exhaustion
yes, german is very good in defining aspects with just one word, like "shadenfreude" ( to be happy about somebodys disgrace). In spanish, we don´t have any word for this (although we know the concept very well)
By that definition, I would say the best translation into English would be "Harrier".
@@Tjalve70 Very good choice of word. Yes that would be the equivalent
Although the Hetzer was more of an ambush hunter, rather than an endurance hunter
Exactly There IS a direct translation for Hetzer in English. HETZER = HAUNTER from HAUNT = the dog's job to HAUNT the Boar into the right direction and weaken its stamina until tired out to be killed by the Hunters on Horse on the old HATZ Jagd mostly done by nobles.
the HATZ jagd is the Hunt STYLE with dogs where the deer or boar is getting HETZED/HAUNTED by THE DOGS until weakend or Driven in the right direction towards the mostly cavalry riding HATZ the Hunters on horse cutting of its way.
“It beats dragging a PAK through the mud” Hillary Doyle
Very good comment.
Not if you are low on fuel.
At least you can run away from a PAK when hordes of T-34s or Shermans turn up =)
Was it Hillary Doyle or Nick Moran who said that? I first heard it from Nick.
@@joelhume Cuz men totally run faster than T-34s and Shermans.
2:09 Guy in the background with the camera: "bloody hell this guy's here again"
I bet next he'll start ranting about Brexit.
*sighs*
Nah, he just can't believe the hatch situation either
@@lamolambda8349 Best thing is it doesn't matter which side he takes, he's still annoying either way.
Lindy probably has the Gold Pass membership at Bovington... ;)
... what is an "Imperial Hour"?
Like is it 60 minuts +5 minutes for tea?
Yeah, especially seeing how it was most likely the Egyptians who invented the 12 hours (times two) scale of time to begin with.
55 minutes, with 5 minutes for tea.
@@walthanas Egyptians were very imperial.
@@walthanas i was thinking it was the Sumerians. I'm likely incorrect...happens a lot.
Guess lindy wanted to make people aware that the French invented a decimal based time system after the revolution, and even the French thought it sucked.
That ceiling in the museum is absolutely fascinating.
Have you not seen an unfinished ceiling? It's similar to what you'd see in a warehouse store or another establishment going for that "look."
@@VideoMask93 i was surprised by a lack of birds inside (i was briefly working in a shop with similar ceiling which had birds inside the shop)
@@gorionus9812 I think I've seen some birds in a CostCo once before.
@Kai Houston RIght? Who was intersted in a Hetzer, anyway ??
@@gorionus9812 Do you expect birds shitting on those tanks?
3:58
"You can't depress the gun enough to shoot him..."
Tank commander: Shoot him you worthless piece of sheet metal!
Machine gun: :(((
DeeJayster
Lol
I have a friend who acquired a Hetzer from some museum in Europe. It was more or less intact - the pieces they had to remove to make it "demiliterized" were shipped separately. Via the internet he also managed to aquire a full set of manuals for it. They were in German, obviously, but he can read German fairly well, so that wasn't a problem. It took him about 4 or 5 years, but he completely rebuilt it. The canon and machine gun fire propane blanks, but otherwise its fully functional. He takes it around to military shows and WWII reenactments.
Bullshit!!!
Tanks are illegal everywhere
nice 👍
By any chance, would this guy's Hetzer be the one that usually shows up at the WWII event in Rockford, Illinois?
@@were-owlinwisconsin4441 That's him!
Normal Winnie Pooh: "Hetzer"
Winnie Pooh With Tux:
"Jagdpanzer 38(t)"
Winnie Pooh with Wermacht outfit:
"JAGDPANZER ACHTUNDDREIẞIG (TSCHECHISH)"
@cis this
Well, yes, but actually, no.
OP, tiny nitpick if I may, German numbers are spelled without space or hyphen. As such it is ACHTUNDDREIẞIG.
@@klobiforpresident2254 ah yes I forgot about that, danke Schön meine Freund/Freundin
@@mtf_nine_tailed_fox385
Gern geschehen, Kamerad!
@cis this does it not mean tankhunter?
The jagdpanzer 38t wasn’t terrible once you’re given more context. It was a great defensive weapon, and was used as such. My ancestor was ambushed in the Hurtgen Forest by an entire platoon of these vehicles, and they performed quite well in the ambush role. You just can’t use them on the offensive.
Exactly, it was built for a specific role. They had radio's and infantry to be their eyes and ears. Wouldn't want to be caught in the open on its own. But that's not how it was used.
@@todcarter110 lindy beige lost a lot of credibility in his “spandau” vs bren video… this video is another example
That's the idea behind all casemate tank destroyers, esp. in German doctrine. Hold and defend positions against armoured attacks, hopefully in pre-prepared positions. They were not intended to maneuver the way the M18 or M36 were, especially not independently. That was done late war out of sheer desperation.
"My ancestor" lol
@@ApeRiderrhow?
How many ways of the word "Hetzer" appearing on the screen do you want?
Lindy: Yes.
All of them
yes memes are such old hat shit.
he had me at the green lightning
@Breezy Mods thanks friend :) have a good day friend :)
Thirteen year old me upon discovering PowerPoint.
oh no he's stuck in the tank museum again.
*puts on hat and grabs gun*
'don't worry lindy, i'll come save you'
It's time for an intervention.
I think it's footage from his visit over a year ago. He's wearing the same sweater in the museum clip he did back then.
@@theblancmange1265 You are new to Lindybeige aren't you?
The only thing he'll leave a tank museum for is vinegar.
@@remainingknight8339 yeah, he's really up on his continuity.
With that attitude arguably every tank is an armoured coffin.
And every soldier would be an unarmoured coffin.
No, every footman is an exposed carcass. Unarmored vehicles would be unarmored coffins.
Back in those days? Yeah. Save for a select few, like the Sherman from 1943 onwards, most tanks were heavy, metallic coffins.
Churchill being an exception, of course!
@@miskakopperoinen8408 True, but you get what I mean.
Tank: Has weakness
WW2 Enthusiasts: Mobile Coffin
Tank: Is weakness. FIFY.
It's not just a weakness to not have a fucking gun sight
@@Kaadilac Tell that to the M10, or the M18, or the Jadpanzer, or the SU-85, or ISU-152, or the Long 88 gun emplacement. Or the infantry manned soviet 75mm.
All of them had gunsights.
You kind of need to see what you're shooting at. It's like shooting a gun 3 meters to the left of the trigger and not seeing the target having to rely on someone to tell you if your shot was correct when he can't even see the barrel well enough.
But the gun is a 75mm cannon and you're shooting at an armored vehicle with a cannon bigger than yours and a gun sight.
Why even bother defending it lol.
@@CassiusGreen Yea fair enough
@ALSO-RAN ! You need a optics that are in line with and next to the gun. Like on modern tanks.
Already six minutes into this video... And... Oof. Ouch.
1) Yes, the Hetzer was pretty blind as far as tanks go, but if Infantry got that close to any tank.... That tank is already dead anyway.
2) The MG on top was not just a "Blind fire spray and pray" weapon. It had a periscope equipped 3x zoom sniper scop mounted with it that was used to aim.
3) The gun sight is on top of the roof. Under that upside down U shaped bracket. Roof mounted sights are actually a good thing, as they allow you to be be able to see the enemy while behind cover or concealment. Perfect for an ambush vehicle like this.
4)The 7.5 Pak 40 was an excellent gun, and is capable of taking on any allied medium (majority of what the allied armies fielded. Shermans, T-34s, Cromwells) from a good distance away.
Thanks beat me too it.
also ambush vehicles are very useful. It's the tank equivalent of a sniper. it may not knock out that many tanks but imagine driving down a street and suddenly your lead tank erupts into flames and the crew bail out. everyone dives for cover and the rest of the column swiftly turns around and high tails it back. everyone now knows something is lurking at the end of the street, gasp it could even be a tiger! and you don't want to drive head first into a tiger do you? you now have a whole armour column tied down and trying to flush out one vehicle (which has probably already relocated) It's not the kill count but the psychological effect that hetzers were great for.
found the hetzer fanboy
Captain Beige addressed the roof sight and described the gun as good but not devastating (ie, Churchill VII or IS would resist)
It was also not downgraded to an ambuch vehicle, it was designed to operate this way.
I would prefer the Jagdpanzer 38 over any stationary classic AT gun any day, because thats what it meant to complement. You have at least a little bit of armour around you and not just one tiny armored shield, and after an ambush you can quickly retreat under armored cover. Imagine if you have to run away and leave your AT gun behind. That is not reasonable, especially at this stage of the war, when most combat of the Wehrmacht was delaying action against advancing armored forces. For that sort of engagement it is meant for, nothing else. That roof mounted machine gun is a nice gimmick indeed, since you have infantry support with you. Afterall you are in an infantry support vehicle. These vehicles were never meant to rely on its close defense weapons only. In fact, most armored vehicles are not meant to be deployed this way and only a foolish commander would do so.
Going back to the retreat movement after the ambush and the following counter attack of the opposing forces: The driver does not have to turn the vehicle around in order to retreat, using the reverse gear only at first will do the job, until you found cover to actually reverse and retreat further. The driver does not have to see where he is driving, because the commander can assist and give direct orders about the directions via a light system, that indicates left and right to the driver. The commanders hatch is arranged in a way that he can see out over the engine deck while being fully protected from the front and sides. so he can give reliable direction orders to the blind driver.
Meant as a pure ambush tank destroyer, exactly like a normal AT gun, the Jagdpanzer 38 was not well suited in other combat situations. Because of that it looks stupid when evaluated as an assault gun or a tank. It was just a more mobile AT gun with better crew protection against HE rounds and small arms fire.
Exactly, the late war 75mm infantry towed AT guns were dug-in-place, die-in-place. A Pak 40 crew will be hurt by near misses from mortars, artillery to tank HE shells. This vehicle give the crew a fighting chance.
Of course, this vehicle is no StuG III or IV, but it can be built in the tiny capacity captured Czech industry, so it's something.
Well said. You can add that almost every ambush is / was planned and rehearsed extensively. The whole crew knew their jobs and could 'shoot and scoot' quite effectively. Displacement and re positioning adds to the effectiveness of the vehicle.
So a vehicle built to ambush tanks, dependant on infantry, may also be blessed with the appellation infantry support vehicle?
A pure ambush tank? Now I understand.
Plus, it's German (sort of), and so clearly superior to anything ever made before or since.
I feel like Bovingdon is a random encounter location where you can come across a rare Lloyd npc
t = d
In modern German, "Panzer" as a stand-alone word has taken on the exclusive meaning of "tank". The older meaning of "armor" has been entirely taken over by the words "Panzerung".
The only exception I know of is the field of biology/zoology, where "Panzer" means "carapace", and thus could still be translated as "armor". But other than that - no, the German word "Panzer" does NOT mean "armor" these days.
@@Бегемот-г6м Where do you have your information from?
I'm a native speaker living in Germany.
I've actually never heard the use of "Panzer" for pieces of body armor, except in rare historic contexts. "Kugelsichere Weste", "Splitterschutzweste" or "Schutzweste" for short would be terms for modern equipment, while "Rüstung" and "Harnisch" would be terms for historic equipment (the complete kit and the breast piece, respectively). I _have_ heard compound terms such as "Brustpanzer", but I'm pretty sure I've never heard or read "Panzer" used, in this sense as a stand-alone term, anywhere in Germany, neither in person nor in German media, by any contemporary speaker/writer.
I concede that "Panzer" might still be in use in that sense in Switzerland or Austria, or a few regional dialects. But in mainstream "German German", from my experience that use of the word has gone extinct.
@@CLipka2373 The word "Panzer" for " armor" is correct and understandable, also in germany.
Its obviously not that often used, as people dont talk about armors or tanks the whole day, but often enought in documentations, books, movies, videogames...etc.
Besides, i am quite shure if someone would tell you he is wearing a panzer, you would not think he is balancing a t-34 on the palm of his hand.
Nicht ganz wahr, auch in vermodernden Kontexten wird noch von Panzer geredet- Schuppenpanzer, Plattnepanzer, Lamellenpanzer (das Zeug was die Samurai trugen) usw.
A rhinoceros is a panzernashorn in german. At least it is in the Berlin Zoo.
I too think it's regional. In the southern German dialects it's not as weird to still say Panzer to an armor. Especially in Combinations like "Brustpanzer" (chestplate).
"The Polish captured one of these and named it twat."
My day has been made XD
It's made mine!
we're quite creative, no?
Polish driving around 'twatting' Germans all day. Classic!!
'Where were you all morning Mariusz?' 'Oh, I was out in the twat!' XD
The name that Poles gave to the captured Hetzer was "Chwat", which means something like Daredevil or Hero. Obviously, it's not "twat", but it was a good joke, nevertheless.
@@MrKersey I think everyone in this thread knows that. That's the entire point of the thread. Don't be a chwat now ;-)
"Let's get to the tank museum."
Heh, funny.
He never left.
When he is not editing and uploading his videos, he is hiding inside a tank. They didnt know he is still there lol
He has a cot in the employee break room.
A coffin was never so cute and lovable.
So it was not just me how see it like this come on tell me do you have the feeling you just want to hug it
Or deadly to others...
best armed coffin ever!
I just found out that Hetzer has an escape hatch in the bottom floor.
Well hes kinda full of shit. It was never designed to fight infantry that were taking over the vehicle. It was designed to give infantry support against vehicles. If infantry were on the side, you already fucked up, but its motor should still work and you should be able to move the vehicle. If its disabled, not even a king tiger can be saved from that.
Tbh your German pronunciation is pretty good. Greetings from Germany
Hetzer’d gonna hetz. No doubt.
Well it seems as if this particular Hetzer has already seen the most of his Hetzing life hehe ;)
Haters gonna hate,
Hetzer gonna Hetze.
Hitler
Why ain't he using the 105
unless you pay gold then you have e25
thank goodness we're not going to have another spandau naming scandal
"I don't care if it's wrong I'll call it what I want" - Like a true Englishman, sir.
Not very surprising, but true.
He does that. MG-42 anyone
Those bloody foreigners all understand English. You just have to speak it loud enough.
A name is that by which something/someone is known. If a machine is known as a Hetzer, then that is its name.
@@hermitoldguy6312 By that logic England, Great Britain, and the UK are all the same thing.
One thing that’s undeniable is that this tank looks really cool
@william hunter You mean Brazil.
It looks like a mcnuggets box
@@siegfried2k4 That's insulting to the McNuggets. At least they have ample headroom.
@ALSO-RAN ! Semantics.
@ALSO-RAN ! Would you not argue that a Tank Destroyer is, inherently, a subset of tank though?
The Hetzer was very cost effective. It had a good kill ratio. It was also hated by its crews.
"hetzen" as a German word means to hunt something to the prey's exhaustion, like run after it until it breaks down with exhaustion. A fitting translation of the verb would be to "hound something to death". Greetings from Austria. Love you, Lindy!!! :)
Yep, wanted to say the same thing. As with "Panzer" in modern military context this only means tank, nothing else. The correct translation for armor would be "Panzerung".
Greetings from Austria as well.
Would it translate in any way as "stalker", or is that not right?
@@gajbooks I would argue that the difference between "to hound" and "to stalk" is the energy involved. Hounding someone is very open, aggressive and high-energy while stalking is covert and low-key. Think of the difference on the hunt between a pack of hyenas and a house cat. Just my 2 cents.
I was thinking that "Harasser" would've been the best english translation.
@@gajbooks: No it wouldn't. Stalking implies an element of stealth. But "hetzen" does not.
To make an analogy, those african hunters who basically run after gazelles until the gazelles cllapse from heat exhaustion since they can't cool down with perspiratio, those hunters could be said to be "hetzers" in german.
The tank rating system:
Nation: How much resources does it cost us compared to the enemy?
Soldier: How long will I survive in it?
Three public: Does it look cool?
"So, we have a troop transport that can't carry troops... A scout vehicle that's too conspicuous to do reconnaissance.... And a quasi tank that has less armor than a snow blower, but enough firepower to level half of DC."
from "The Pentagon Wars", 1998
@@bcn1gh7h4wk Now that's a funny movie.
Nighthawk the last one is just artillery lol
If the Germans didn't skip the first step, they may have won
@@Dan-n-Duke-jr2ic No, no they would not.
the gunners sight is on top of the vehicle like on a stug iii, it was a good sight you could aim with it even when the tank was covered
Doesnt help much without a turret to track targets and a degree of movement so awful you'd lose your target if it moved slightly more to the right
@@TheKsalad At that point in the war germany didn't need many offensive tanks. Ambushing tanks were what was most effective.
@@TheKsalad turrets are over rated pre-stabilizers, just adds an extra weak point for your tank. you can easily rotate the hull to point at the target. the Stug has the record for best kill-to-death ratio of any armoured vehicle in ww2 so it certainly is not a huge handicap (in this period)
@@TheKsalad you need to look at tank destroyers as mobile anti tank guns to understand the design decisions that were made. Hellcats and Wolverines had only manual turret traverse which cannot track targets at speed.
@@matthiuskoenig3378 In a MILES(tank laser tag) engagement our vehicle lost power traverse so we had to pivot steer in order to engage targets. Its certainly possible.
Love the fact you mentioned the romanian prototype as the inspiration. Not many know ^^
preach brother
4:00
Yeah but it was a infantry support vehicle, if enemies got that close, the tank should have already been abandoned
IF they got out in time xD
@@MatthewsPersonal Yeah that would be helpful indeed
@John Smith people have a very bad habit of playing "what if" or putting German armor in situations it was never intended for and wasn't used in
Jan no it was a tank Destroyer
@@lordmozart3087 It was a tank destroyer for the infantry support role, It was meant to be deployed with infantry so they would always have an anti tank gun around. So Jan is right.
That double periscope makes it look like Mr Krabs is inside.
ahoy spongebob me boy, I'm going to be tried for war crimes aghahhahahah
Ohhh...
Who lives in a submarine under the sea?
Sponge Bob Square Pants!
Stealthy and deadly and hungry is he.
Sponge Bob Square Pants!
_[Tune switches to death metal]_
If nautical D E A T H be something you wish!
SpongeBob SquarePants!
Then drop them to H E L L and feed them to fish!
SpongeBob SquarePants!
Should have collab'd with The Chieftain: Can two tall blokes manage 'The tank is on fire!" exercise!
2 guys a Hetzer and the Hetzer is on fire. Coming this fall...
It would almost as funny just to watch them try to get into it. I can only imagine what it would like seeing two 6'+ men stuffed inside one.
Now I really want to see this video
Just a tin of pommelled beef.
chieftain used hetzer word only once in his video and they already did colab on churchil.
"I don't want to expose myself on the roof of this thing!"
What's meant: A crewman popping out to reload the gun
What I imagined: awkward nude solider on the roof of a Hetzer
Germans do love their nudity.
Whats wrong with you both
@@henri.stach1208 everything.
Moral of the story: hetzers gonna hetz, live the stug life instead?
The virgin hetzer vs THE CHAD STUG
I didn't choose the stug life, I was drafted by the Wehrmacht
Stug was build by Alkett which was bombed in Nov 43. This is one of the main reasons the Hetzer got introduced in first place. (Böhmisch Mährische Maschinenwerke didn't have a 25 tons crane to build Stugs.....) (source "panzermuseum munster")
@@threadworm437 so said every virgin about every Chad.
Stug- ASSAULT GUN
Hetzer- Tank Destroyer
NOT the same role
wow, he pronounced 38/achtunddreissig without accent!😍
now say ,,Saukopfblende" thats that slope thing.
I thought they were called "Topfblende"? Or is that only on the StuG?
@@endlesnights3817
I have a book wich says so.
But google says you are right.
Shitty book.
Well, actually it was with a little bit of an accent, but in general, I'm surprised by how well he could pronounce it.
@@coolian9933 bless you
Googling around I'm actually seeing both words, though ma StuG books only use the word Topfblende. So I think both are probably right to use.
Lots of problems here:
- For starters its vulnerability to infantry is not as severe an issue as you make it sound. Even ignoring the fact you claim its Mg-34 was "blindly fired" (whereas in reality it used an accurate magnified optic), it was almost exclusivley used too supplement the defense of infantry units. As such it was part of an integrated defense in which infantry units could protect it from infantry, just as it would protect them from tanks. Its not rolling through enemy infantry formations or fighting in armoured spearheads potentially isolated from infantry support like the other German panzers, it stays with the infantry and if they know whats good for themselves they aren't staying too far from it.
-The armour protection is more then suffecient, you seem to be evaluating it on the basis that it is a tank, you need to think of it more in terms of a mobile Anti-tank gun, only unlike AT guns or the marders and light panzer jagers it helped supplement and/or replaced it could endure anything but a direct hit from the airstrikes and artillery barrages the allies were using whole scale at that point in the war. The fact it also had a chance at even taking a hit frontally from a tank made it exceptionally well armoured by the standards of light tank hunters of WW2 more then anything (for comparison it had even better frontal protection then the American M10 and m36 tank destroyers which were nearly double its weight, and nearly equivilant proection to the earlier Stug-3's of which it also weighed significantly less.)
- Visibility was not as severe an issue as you make out, as a defensive vehicle it would generally be used in terrain that the officers in charger and hertzer commanders would have been able to familiazrize themselves with and the commander would often be able to operate with the hatch open anyway. it is an ambush vehicle, if its taking fire (ie. been spotted), then its only job is too pull back anyway, which it could do along paths the crew and commander are already familiare with and aware of.
When he says blindly fired, hes referring to the remote control ability to fire.
@@Hadesthief he literally says , "whlst you're firing blindly you're very unlikely too hit anything" and "i can understand why no one would want too actually go up their and look down the sights". He never acknowledges the fact it uses an accurate optic, and pretty clearly seems to be under the impression it was indeed fred blindly based on his comments.
His authorative comments on the machine gun in this video alone are a pretty great example of the dunning-kruger effect in action.
A Kino Entertainment First class analysis on your part. The only disadvantages that the "Hetzer" had was that it was cramped and crewmembers of small stature were required. IIRC, the maximum height of personnel was no more than five feet five inches. The Germans themselves liked it and preferred it over every other Jagdpanzer except the "Jagdpanther".
Thank you for that comment I really don't like this pussyfart
ok wehraboo
After seeing my fair share of ceilings, I do have to say that is one mighty fine ceiling! 👍
Even modern remotely controlled machines guns can't be remotely loaded. You still have to get out and load manually.
Evan Friend The rear MG of the SPz Marder was fed from the crew compartment.
@@herosstratos I'll bet the receiver is inside the crew compartment too. Because every machine gun I've ever seen or heard of loads more or less the same way, and requires access to the receiver.
Couldn't they just have a belt running down into the tank? Just one big ammunition storage at the bottom that leads up to the gun.
@@brandonliao408 In theory, yes, but a couple of problems there: namely, if you want the gun to traverse, you now have to have a lot more complex system so that the belt which feeds into the vehicle from the gun will traverse with it. Also, even if the belt feeds into the vehicle, you still have to reload the gun at the receiver when it goes dry, or just keep linking belts together, which can be done with disintegrating links, but not with non-disintigrating links as the Germans used in WWII and the Russians still use, but either way it isn't convenient.
@@MrEvanfriend Ah you make a good point. Here's to hoping we solve those problems in the future!
6:00
....so, Tank-Countering Cannon.
or, Anti-Tank Gun.
how very German of the Germans to call their German guns by their appropriate German name.
In Deutsch: Panzerabwehrkanone - oder Jagdpanzer. Hetzer was a "light Jagdpanzer" oder "Leichter Jagdpanzer Hetzer"
@@tr0nic_442 It’s not
@@tr0nic_442 Nah, the Jagdpanzer 38(t) is in the german tree
@@tr0nic_442 Yeah sure, in real life. In WT however you don't get any JPz38t as sweden
@@tr0nic_442 Gallows#2476
I've never heard anyone butcher the word "kilometers" so expertly! Kudos to you!
It's a joke, guy
@@B33fisGud no shit?
Lindy never misses an opportunity to put the boot in, whether it be the metric system or the Frenchies. Its a long running gag that NEVER gets old. His easy, natural, classic comedy style is just BRILLIANT... imho.
Lol
our enemies hide in METUHL BAWKSES, THE COWAR- *75mm shell*
We.. We should take away their METAL BAWKSES!
*asthmatic wheeze* TEH FEWLS
@@buttahXD SINDRIIIII >:V
Ugh...WHAT, my Lord?
the M113s are the real Metal Bawkses Carron
I love his German! :D
@Targaryen Dynasty Skallagrim is German, so he'd better be able to pronounce German terms. XD
@Targaryen Dynasty Where is 'here'? Not that it matters. He is definitely German. Seems he's from Munich:
th-cam.com/video/QygPOoSfeX0/w-d-xo.html
@@kaizoebara I thought he was something nordic and that he lived for a while in Munich. BTW Tarja Turunen (Nightwish) lived also in Munich for a while and she´s quite good in German.
@@edi9892 I don't know her, but Skallagrim's German isn't just 'quite good' - he's definitely a native speaker of German. Just like me.
Also, his accent when speaking English is German, not Scandinavian. Watch the video I linked and you'll see that he has to put an effort into pronouncing Norwegian words.
What else should I say? How about: trust me, I'm a linguist? At least I had linguistics classes and it was also a part of my final examinations for my M.A.
@@kaizoebara I've seen a Tamil girl that spoke Austrian German better than me (Austrian parents and passport). I got somewhere between jealous and sad.
Long story short, it could still have little bit more complicated backstory...
The weird thing is that he doesn't like the Hetzer, but he loves the Jagdpanther, which is basically just a bigger Hetzer.
he has no idea what hes talking about just another youtube narcissist. in another video he claims that flaming arrows didnt exist and didnt work when there is a mass of evidence to the contrary.
@@stayhungry1503lol. Did you even watch the video? He says that they are wildly inefficient and stupid for a field battles ( a context that Hollywood loves to show them in). He then says they were totally used during sieges, and explains in-depth why it's a good tactic in that situation.
@@stayhungry1503Did you say something? I just heard 'blah blah blah narcissist blah blah REEEEEEE'?
@@stayhungry1503Found the wehraboo
@@Lepper36It's quite a balanced review. But for some reason Lindybeige, really rubs the Wehraboos up the wrong way!
11:20 "that's about 41 kilometres per imperial hour" 🤣🤣🤣
LoL, That would mean a day is imperial too, since an hour is just 1/24 of it. I think people could count days before imperial times.
@@Paciat Yes, the hour is way older than the hot mess people call the imperial system.
Kylo metros*
actual SI unit of speed would be metres per second, not kilometres per hour, so Lindy did not have to mix metric and imperial units ;)
@@Paciat yep, the hour et al goes back to the Sumerians of Mesopotamia so predates the British Empire by several thousand years.
I can feel Lindybeige getting flashbacks from the Spandau video
He did call the remote control Spandau on top a heavy barrelled MG34.
German senior officer: "So you have ze experience with tanks, ja?"
Tanker: "Ja, mein commandant. I was commander of a Panzer V crew."
German senior officer: "Well we have a new command for you. Some of the men call it a Hetzer."
Tanker (looks at Hetzer): "Scheisse. We're losing, aren't we?"
German senior officer: "Ja."
Hetzer crews were largely from PAK gun crews. it would be more like
Officer: "here is your new PAK gun. you like it, Ja?"
AT-crewman: "Ja, it is Wunderbar mein commandant, we will not have to worry about being overrun in this UND we can surrive a few shots with this armour UND it is small so i can hide it... but its abit cramped"
Officer: "glad you like it..."
AT-gunner: "we must be winning if we are all getting tanks!"
Officer: "yessssss, winning, nothing to worry about Hans." *laughs nervously*
Correction
Tanker: *Sees Hetzer* "Were... WINNING THE WAR JA?"
Commander: JA WE ARE GOING A THE WAY TO MOSCOW
(GERMAN TECHNOLOGICAL SUPIRORITY INTENSIFIES)
Hetzer gonna Hetz
@@PilotTed *_S E K A I I C H I_*
You gotta write in German for realism but I can translate it if you want lol
So you missed a very important fact or two here. The armor on Hetzer was Seimens-Martin armor, which was not face hardened and in relative thickness was much weaker than it's properly armored counterparts like StuG. It wasn't meant to be taking hits, as the doctrine was to employ it as an anti-tank gun not a tank destroyer like StuG or Jagdpanzer IV. Also, there is more commanders hatch than you showed, that whole section of the roof has opening doors. As for calling it Hetzer, doesn't bother me. But officially it was called Jagdpanzer 38, not Jagdpanzer 38(t), that's a misnomer. Also, that is not an air intake, come on man. I think to truly understand it's ergonomics you need to take a ride in one and experience the positions. I am lucky enough to know a guy in IL that owns one. Don't knock it til you try it. I'm 5'6" and i find many positions very comfortable. For my experience no worse than my comfort level in T-34/85.
Yeah, the 60mm of S-M armour on the "Hetzer" was supposedly equivalent to about 35mm of Face-hardened Steel used on typical German tanks. According to the Germans.
And also yes, it was Jagdpanzer 38 not 38(t) since it doesn't use the Czech tank's hull or anything. The only carryover are the road wheels and a few suspension components. The (t) or (r) or (e) is used to denote a captured vehicle reused as a beutepanzer. These were new production vehicles of German design, so no (-) demarkation.
Late in the war face-hardened armour was not as effective as simply RHA, capped shells which were in use by all the Western Allies would effectively shatter the face hardening, basically just meaning the face hardened thickness just added excess weight.
The Soviets however didn't use capped shells, instead preferring blunt nosed APBC. For this reason, the Germans apparently actually produced two versions of Panther. One's with face-hardened plates sent to the Eastern Front, and those with pure RHA sent to the West.
Adam Mann to be fair, he is over 6ft tall. Any tank is likely to be cramped for him
Informative comment. Although T-34 is a very low bar for crew comfort.
@@ecpgieicg The T-34 I was able to play around in was surprisingly well made and comfortable. This was an 85 that saw action against Japan in 45, so a late build. I was expecting what you always hear about, but was pleasantly surprised by how well the optics and everything worked and how roomy parts were. I would not want to be the loader, the lack of a real seat and loose ammo boxes for a floor is terrifying.
"Hetzer" is a quiet appropriate name: it comes from hunting, where "hetzen" means to hunt down, or better: to chase down the prey with hounds. So "chaser" is a good translation in my opinion.
Someone „hetzen“ in fact means to hunting something until the target is total exhausted, so you can finish it. It’s a very brutal word in German. To chase someone is in comparison a gentleman way of hunting something. If you think of hetzen, think of the hardest english foxhunt you can imagine.
"Die Hatz" = the chase with hounds. "Über jemand hetzen" means to tell very nasty things about a somebody in an attempt to destroy his/her social reputation or standing.
someone once wrote that 'hetzer' translated as 'agitator' or 'troublemaker'... it could have been in the vehicle notes for advanced squad leader. edit: here's the reference: 50. JgdPz 38(t): The Hetzer (Troublemaker or Agitator) was a light SP AT gun on the proven chassis of the PzKpfw 38(t), and was used to replace the many makeshift conversions (Marders, etc.) of earlier years. About 2,500 saw action (although very few, if any, fought in Normandy). Hetzers were primarily issued to independent TD battalions and those that were organic to infantry divisions. 100 were supplied to Hungary, 10/44-1/45. ... aslerb.com/.wp-plugins/chh_germannotes_chhgermanvehiclenotes.php
@@AndyThomas_mrblitz Agitator does not fit 100% in the german meaning - troublemaker surely does not. The problem with troublemaker is that "hetzen" is an old german word deriving from huntsmen speech, and is therefore a part of a jargon. In terms of the tank you can easyly make out the reference to §hunting someone down" , what "hetzen" actually means. The word "hetzen" has undergone some semantic changes, and is now also referred to "talk about someone in a defaming way", like tattling if you will. But this has clearly no connotation to the tank, since back then there is no linguistic evidence of the new sense of the word.
its to be or put someone in a hurry
My wife's uncle served in one of these in the Swiss Army after the war and has fond memories of it. Its role was that of a self propelled anti tank gun. It was protected by infantry and communicated with external spotters and the battery command post by means of telephone (which was linked to intercom) for which each vehicle had its own 600m cable drum. Using it as a tank is a ridiculous and unlikely idea, even in desperate times.
Yes, this post and most of the comments misses the main point of the Hetzer. It was indeed designed as a self-propelled antitank gun, not for infantry support or for armoured manoeuvre. It was an extremely cost-effective weapon in that role - far more so than light tanks or any of the heavy armour.
All of the negative aspects of this makes perfect sense in this being assigned to INFANTRY units. Also, Germany was on the DEFENSE so, you would assume it's job is to HIDE, with its FRONT facing the enemy.
Also this was when Germany had limited resources and industrial capacity. So they may not have been super picky about what they use as long as it doesn’t set fire to itself.
@@jamiekamihachi3135 Yep, also it was the smallest TD in theater! Small=hard to spot and range on, lighter than most(more mobility, more likely to have a better selection of bridges to cross due to low weight).
@@tegunn low weight? It was quite weighty
@@kungpochopedtuna for a TD, yes. Germans tended to make tanks that could only use a select amount of bridges..
@@tegunn less than 5 tons lighter than a panzer mkIII, it was heavy by any standards imo
To defend the Jagdpanzer 38(t):
It was one of the lesser moronic German tank designs in late WW2 - it did its job and was comparatively cheap to produce. (Don't forget the famous Tiger tanks, even when having a high battle value were a sink for scarce raw materials and fuel...)
though "one of the less moronic German tank designs" is damning with faint praise
Germany: Makes a supertank that stretches their logistical capabilities to their limits
Armchair historians: BOO! It should be cheaper, lighter and more reliable!
Germany: Makes a cheapo tank that's got a good gun, is easy to transport, reliable and cheap
Also the armchair historians: BOO! It's a coffin on treads! It should have more viewports, better ergonomics, a turret, more powerful engine and better armor! No soldier would want to fight in that!
@Radle in this case, cutting edge and moronic are not mutually exclusive, a lot of the stupidity came from sending what were barely working prototypes into mass production, regardless of whether there was any realistic hope of maintaining them
@@strongback6550 top comment 👍
Strong Back I say the Panther is the best Tank for this since the front armor can protect itself but yah, I say cheap is the worst German option as they can’t play the number game, The big cats may drink a lot but twenty Panzer Fours drink way more and would be easy to kill
I can forgive using the name “hetzer.” I can never forgive Lloyd’s use of comic sans.
At least it's not Papyrus.
@@oz_jones But those are the two best characters!
WHERE MY WANGDANGS AT
Anytime Lindy goes to a museum
Tour guide: That’s my job!
I'm going to adopt a hairless cat and call him Hetzer
Pics or it didnt happen.
That's actually a good name for a cat
@@Doktor_Jones And even better if you compare it to a tank destroyer.
That's amazing
According to Hustler Magazine, Hester is Chester the Molester's girlfriend. Just trying to help.
Armoured coffin....fitting description for most military vehicles.
If you're well protected, you cannot escape.
If the vehicle is easy to escape, it's because you aren't well protected.
That...that is actually pretty true.
Unless you're in a sherman ehich was pretty well protected (unless you're against a rare big cat) and getting out is quite easy.
"If you're well protected, you cannot escape."
(laughs in Merkava)
@@germanvisitor2 Merkava actually isn't that well protected in today's standards, pretty pathetic really. The armour is pretty darn thin, only the engine being at the front gives some protection but only against HEAT-FS shells. A dart would slice through like through butter.
@@thomascoppens8498 "big rare cats" must include stugs and panzer IVs in your book, both have the penatrating power to penatrate a sherman's armour at ranges the sherman (75) can't do the same. and even the sherman (76) can be killed by those at any range it can successfully return fire. against any medium or heavier tank/TD the sherman is lightly armoured (form late 42 onwards).
My grandfather drove this tank as he was in the Wehrmacht.
He told me some other stories about this tank. It was useful enough for some ambush tactics.
Well, go on, don’t leave us hanging!
Doesn’t it bother you the communists and the USA have prevented the Nazi side to argue their side?
@@jimhendrix2465
I dunno, man. While I mostly agree with your comment as it applies to politics and ideology, when it comes to WW2 performance, there are way more wehraboos that lionize the Nazi military than those that glorify the, in my opinion, superior (especially in the late war) Soviet war machine.
@@roadent217 They’re censoring anything and all things that they don’t want people knowing about. That should give a red flag to everybody
Hopefully he wasn't referring to ambushing the other crew members after eating sauerkraut the night before.....
"Steers like a cow" was a great reference
Yeah some cows actually are pretty agile....
Glenn Wainwright "Looks Iike a fish, moves like a fish, steers like a cow"
@@migsterman67 Correct ; Douglas Adams RIP.
I saw a cow that jumped the fence like a horse. There is a picture of a girl that learned the cow as see jumps with an animal a simple fence in a hunt seat leaned to cows back like on some proper mount.
Cows like a steer.
"Steered like a cow"; brilliant.
Lemmy Kilmister of Motorhead actually bought one of those.
You know, I am not into motorhead but love Lemmy and his genuine personality. There are amazing bassists out there, there will continue to be forever, but there will never be another like him. I'm almost glad Lemmy got out before these days, the media would love to vilify him.
I would be surprised by absolutely nothing he did. And I agree he was a master of his musical instrument. I can’t say I want to spend a yearlong tour with him. Homicide comes to mind for one of us. Peace
As a bong?....
@@Johnc259 huh?
@@bman6065 I was just stating that he had a rather abrasive personality. Especially when he was under the influence of chemicals. As am I. That’s all.
"Hetzen" as a verb refers to a form of hunting by chasing the game to exhaustion.
Persistence hunter
I think your cameraman, as well as I, would like to hear a lot more about the ceiling of the Tank Museum.
Give this man some credit for his German pronouciation and a Personalausweis!
It was fantastic, it could defeat any allied tank on the battlefield with its gun and no need of sight!
Oh, by allied I meant not the enemy.
Hello what's the news from the other provinces?
@GreenTea shoots friendly tanks because it can't see wtf it's aiming at
This annoyingly opinionated video with a bunch of missing or outright wrong information has significantly lowered Lindy's credibility for me, as the Hetzer is something I know a bit about (and obviously more than Lindy :-P). Now I have to wonder how much "facts" in his other videos are also just garbage opinion, presented as "the truth". :-(
Aside from getting key facts about the Hetzer wrong (e.g. escape hatches, viewing capabilities), it's also totally unrelated to this particular tank model that sitting in a vehicle of the losing side in WW2 had a high potential of being bad for your health, especially since the enemy had air superiority and death could come from above at any time. Sitting in a Tiger wouldn't be any safer (though a bit more spacious :-D) - while the side/rear armor is thicker, the front armor is actually less effective plus the Tiger would be expected to fight in situations with a high risk of side exposure, something which wouldn't be required from a Hetzer.
It's 'an armoured coffin' - but he doesn't tell how badly - as in, how easily it was destroyed and/or how often. And, perhaps of some importance when discussing a weapon, how effective it was - why did they build it, based on some old design, 5 years afterwards? (3.000+, if you read the other comments here). Plus, how did Allied crews think about it - it was a self-propelled anti-tank gun - did it punch out a few Shermans or not? So yes, lots left out - yet 1/3rd is for his sponsor.
Great video. However, I would like to offer alternative translations.
The word "Abwehr" in PAK stems from the verb abwehren, which is usually not used as "defence". It is more "to repel" or "to fight off". Defence, by the way, would be "Verteidigung".
Concerning "Hetzer", others already pointed out that the English word "to hound" is quite close.
What I would like to point out, though is that it is a hunting term. Since the German name "Jagdpanzer" literally translates to " Hunting Tank" for a German speaker the association between "Jagdpanzer" and "Hetzer" ist quite strong, if not obvious.
For almost half the cost of stug with same battle effeciency, this was certainly not a bad TD.
" Also, being on the side that's winning is quite handy"
Immediate sub
Incomplete. Forgot to explain how to adjust track tension.
Exhar Khun No, that’s The Chieftian’s bit.
Rear Idler Wheels
Unnecessary nitpicking here, since most people with a slight interest in WW2 already know that. Prague wasn't the capital of Czechoslovakia in 1943, it was the capital of Protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia (hence the name BMM). Slovakia was an "independent" state during WW2.
Why does the title says "Coffin"?
The one and only real steel coffin is the Sherman tank.
And the Hetzer often did wreck the Sherman tank into a steel coffin.
And the Hetzer was mostly used with infantry support, so enemy infantry couldn't get as close as this guy want us to believe.
The Hetzer was a very succesfull verhicle.
I agree with you the hetzer did well in the role it was meant for, but not sure why you persist in calling the Sherman a coffin, it was the most survivable tank in WW2, the base model was fantastic against the panzer 3/4, and forced the early deployment of the panzer 4g a tank it still outperformed.
The panzer 4h did our gun the m4a1 but not the jumbo firefly or 76w variants, all of this being moot since the Sherman was designed for infantry support not tank warfare and in that role fighting stug’s and pillboxes it was fantastic.
The Russians thought so poorly of them they gave them only to their elite guard units, and the British thought so little of them they replaced every tank they had in service with them as fast as they could.
It really is time we stop pretending the Sherman was a bad tank.
@@beefy1212 What i meant, is that it's pretty well known, that the Sherman was very vounerable for tank, and anti tank fire.
Veterans tell this story, time and time again.
The moment a Sherman got hit, most of the time the crews could not get out in time, before the Sherman bursted into flames.
Diebels Alt - “Ronson’s they light first time?”
@@simong2007simong That's seemed to be kind of a nickname for the Sherman.
Simon Gardner ronson’s they lite the first time was a Robson slogan from the 1950’s and a total urban legend that anyone called them such
There was a version of the Sherman called Ronson, guess what it was a flame thrower tank that never saw action
Sherman’s were also not particularly vulnerable to catching fire this is another urban legend that was partly true of early British deployment of Sherman’s due to improper ammo storage.
As for the Sherman it’s frontal armor was comparable to tiger 1’s a tank that weighted nearly twice as much.
Part of the legends about Sherman’s being death traps is because of how many Sherman crews survived tanks getting knocked out.
The Sherman was an excellent tank that has an undeserved reputation for being a bad tank not supported by facts.
Feeling really attacked by this one.
hm, i wonder why
> mobile coffin
dreadnought.jpg
"EVEN IN DEATH I STILL SERVE"
It might not have good line of sight, but worth it for the wisdom of the ancients.
Or in German
"Selbst im Tod diene ich noch"
Corection: the rooftot mg has a little periscope which the gunner could aim with
you can even see it in the video, its playsed under the barrel.
Yes, and the driver could report the fall of forwards fire through his little vision port, so 'almost' blind is better.
It's a bit typical of Lindybeige. He tends to get a bit carried away with a "theme". ;)
@@lindybeige are you gonna do another Brexit video soon?
@@lamolambda8349 'Another' I've never done one.
“Metric fans” meaning almost the rest of the world.
Patrick Glaser are you implying that the imperial system is the reason no other country reached the moon ? Because that would be horribly wrong.... also it’s a fact that the metric system is just better it’s more convenient.
Patrick Glaser are we just gonna ignore the fact that China (a metric system user)has also landed on the moon
Patrick Glaser Who said that I am European, btw I lived both in Europe and in USA. I have used both systems but it is still much more convenient to use the metric system.
So before attacking me for no reason at least know who you are attacking so you don’t look bad :)
@Patrick Glaser, as an american Citizen you should stfu because you live in the worse western country regarding science and education (was not the case 30 years ago but america is now 37th country inscience thank to your fundamentalist). By the way the scientist making the trip to moon possible were not americans but europeans, in fact german nazi scientific who used metrics because imperiial system sucks.
Patrick Glaser yea exactly thanks for proving my point. You called me out without any knowledge, but only because you didn’t like what I have to say and you couldn’t just ignore it. How dare I offend the holy imperial system.
The funny thing is that I was just making a joke about him saying metric fans like they are a small group of people while they are the majority.
"armoured coffin"
*coffin dance noises intensifies*
DamnDalliluz eventually a hetzer dance will come soon
And to be fair it's much easier and shorter in conversation speech to say Hetzer than "Jagd Panzer Achtunddreißig T" Though it's quit sexy to say; 1:24 and people say Spanish and French are the languages of romance. And doubles great at 5:49!
3:56 "If an enemy got here you got nothing" Except you know, the focking infantry this thing is build to support or other vehicles nearby.
Yeah, it's a tank detroyer; their aim was to ambush any enemy tanks and move out. Pretty good design considering they didn'y have to "tool up" for it's production using unused 38t chasis, giving the army an antitank ability...
Him judging it as a tank, instead of a TD/armored PAK is quite mad indeed.
I would imagine if an enemy got there, the infantry has already failed pretty spectacularly
That's what I thought. This is basically with every tank the case. If its alone its easy to pick on. The Germans knew this and that's why their tanks were never alone.
Lloyd: If they were so popular throughout history they had to be good
Also Lloyd:
If something is popular it doesn't mean that it's effective
Context is important - they used chain mail for CENTURIES. Meanwhile, putting sandbags on your tank was fairly popular among US tank crews in France - though like military planning no sandbag applique armor survives contact with the enemy.
Modern pop music
There is two meanings for popular, here it means that people like it, in his other statement he meant that something is very prevalent and often used.
@@fuzzydunlop7928 Chainmail was very effective. It was the most expensive armor on the market until custom made heat treated plate arrived. People wouldn't bother with the cost and weight if it didn't work well.
In case of the defensive machine gun, it's job wasn't to hit anything, but to keep infantry off the tank destroyer. It was both effective and popular.
From some comments seems like a misconception has been spread: the hetzer is not a tank, it's operative role is not to confront tanks face to face. It's more like a tracked anti tank gun, it has to stay in defensive positions, hidden and almost not move, with close supporting infantry it doesn't need side visibility, otherwise why not drill a couple of holes on the side? In this role you need 1-concealment 2-firepower 3-possibly a good frontal armor, if you fire first not seen, you souldn't have enemy on the sides.
Furthermore it was far cheaper than a PzIV so you can produce more with the same resources. Of course in action is not possible to choose the kind of engagement every time, the enemy doesn't stand waiting, for example in Kursk Elephants were used also in offensive role with generally bad results.
The elephant and the Ferdinand (the same tank but better armour) was bad at allmost everything
@@irishbattletoster9265 it was the other way round, Elephant was Ferdinand's successor.
And they both were not "bad at almost everything", properly used (in a defensive role), they did their job.
I let out a gleeful gasp whenever a new Lindybeige video is published these days, I'm hooked
If it was British it would have been an underrated genius machine, right?
Though the Hetzer had a slow start it was appreciated by its crews. It had speed and mobility, its role was not front line but in the anti-tank role which it did extremely well. Which is why so many were made, light fast, stealthy, mass produced... win win! Just pull up a Millitracks tank day video of the Hetzer in motion and you can see that it zips through the trails nicely. A lot of rubbish from some commentator that wants to defame a fine mobile-anti tank gun.
Andre Swift yeah, good point - this is a mobile anti tank gun, not a tank destroyer.
Andre Swift shows .gif file with the GuP hetzer doing the panther salalom
A ant-tank gun would have had much better optics.
@Carnivorus but you actually have to put those optics on the tank. A good gun with poor optics is still of little use. And as the commentator said. It made little inpact on the war effort. Most were abandoned after mechanical failure.
@@derekschoots - It clearly has optics for the cannon similar to that of the stug. Lindybeige doesn't know what the hell his talking about. Especially as his applying critiques for it against situations and or roles it wasn't even designed or intended for.